ESPN is trying to sell the "Miami Cavaliers" idea...

[Frozen1]

...to make people believe he is playing 1 vs 5, giving all the credit to lebron when they win, and putting all the blame on the teamates when they lose, just like when he was in cleveland.

I mean, anyone who watched sportscenter after the games know what i'm saying.

After game 2 loss: Sportscenter presenter and the analyst discuss that lebron had to carry the team throughout the game, and that the late 2 turnovers were results of the fatigue, and that the 12-28 shooting from wade and bosh together didn't help either. In my opinion, if the game is tied late, it's just a matter of execution, pacers executed and miami didn't, and that's include lebron turning the ball over.

After game 3 win: The whole team played well, it was a blowout, but once again ESPN comes and praise lebron post game, makes articles about it, giving the impression it was all about him.

After game 4 loss: Same thing, lebron can't do it alone, wade and bosh needs to step up.

Last night: this video sums it up: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9327556

If you are the best player in the world, the MVP, you are supposed to go out and perform, put numbers and carry your team.

So i think if you are going to get the credit for your team wins, you also should take the blame if your team lose.

But that's not what happens, Lebron is always protected by the media, specially by ESPN. Basically, they are trying to make Lebron as the savior and a scrub carrier.

I just wonder what wade and bosh might think about it, they knew that they would live in lebron's shadow, but not in this extent.

[dh144498]

this is why Lebron is overrated, because of the propaganda like this. He is a great player, top 30 all time, but come on, he didn't carry anything.

[3peated]

haslem had a huge game last night, a lot of lebron assists, but still i mean giving lebron all teh credit is ridiculous

[NattyPButter]

He has been carrying the team. He's leading the team in everything. Luckily Haslem helped in a couple of those games.

[Nash]

this is why Lebron is overrated, because of the propaganda like this. He is a great player, top 30 all time, but come on, he didn't carry anything.
Top 30? More like top 50, or 70?

How does whatever the feck ESPN say or do reflect on Lebron's game on the court? Is Bird and Magic also part of this propaganda?

Why the feck am I even answering this dumb ass post? Can anyone explain that to me?

[STATUTORY]

wade must be having buyer's remorse after recruiting this clown to his town. Now wade's legacy is getting dragged thru the mud by lebron's ppl in the press

[cavsfanatic]

He has been carrying the team. He's leading the team in everything. Luckily Haslem helped in a couple of those games.
right lol. These dudes can't be serious. Wade scored 10 points lmao. Lebron is playing exactly how he played in Cleveland this series if they hope to win. Haslem play the Drew Gooden role and get hot in a few games and he got the help he went to Miami for?

[dh144498]

Top 30? More like top 50, or 70?

How does whatever the feck ESPN say or do reflect on Lebron's game on the court? Is Bird and Magic also part of this propaganda?

Why the feck am I even answering this dumb ass post? Can anyone explain that to me?

i see that hit a nerve in you. :oldlol:

[jlip]

The same way an entire generation was told that MJ was "carrying" the Bulls to 6 championships, and the one player who provided help (Pippen) was basically nothing more than MJ's creation? :confusedshrug:

This is nothing new.

[eriX]

this is why Lebron is overrated, because of the propaganda like this. He is a great player, top 30 all time, but come on, he didn't carry anything.

so your saying you can name 30 players better than lebron?

[jzek]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301658

[livinglegend]

Well, it is Miami Cavaliers this series. Wade and Bosh have been trash. He has to run the whole offense.

[K Xerxes]

It's the same sensationalist narrative the media spoon feed the public every time a great player does this. Who is surprised?

[Nash]

i see that hit a nerve in you. :oldlol:
It actually did, good job.

[LONGTIME]

http://kay4ni.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/morgan-freeman-saying-i-don_t-give-a-shit.gif

[pegasus]

Yes, Wade and Bosh are struggling, but other players stepped up in their wins. That's why they are super stacked. There are so many options that 2 or 3 of them play well almost every game (in addition to Lebron). And when they don't, they lose, so I don't understand how Lebron is carrying anything. He's been their most consistent player, but it's not 1 on 5.

Plus, the whole team is still giving great effort on the defensive end. Last night in the 3rd quarter; it was Lebron, Haslem, and their swarming defense that sealed the victory, not just Lebron all by himself.

[Nezty]

right lol. These dudes can't be serious. Wade scored 10 points lmao. Lebron is playing exactly how he played in Cleveland this series if they hope to win. Haslem play the Drew Gooden role and get hot in a few games and he got the help he went to Miami for?


If Wade scored only 10 points only taking 8 shots, and Bosh only scored 7 points taking just 7 shots, and they still won the game by double digits the team must be doing something right. How can you blame them scoring low points when they aren't even taking 10 shots in a game?

[Nash]

Yes, Wade and Bosh are struggling, but other players stepped up in their wins. That's why they are super stacked. There are so many options that 2 or 3 of them play well almost every game (in addition to Lebron). And when they don't, they lose, so I don't understand how Lebron is carrying anything. He's been their most consistent player, but it's not 1 on 5.

Plus, the whole team is still giving great effort on the defensive end. Last night in the 3rd quarter; it was Lebron, Haslem, and their swarming defense that sealed the victory, not just Lebron all by himself.
I wonder what that makes your Bulls? Guys from the back of the bench carrying the team with stars like Rose, Deng and Heinrich out and they got to 2nd round and pressured Miami.

[Akhenaten]

Espn was seriously pushing Lebron as MVP in 2011 when Wade avg 26/6/4 on 50% and Bosh avg 19/8 50%, it was at that point I just accepted thye have an agenda and to just deal with it.

Now that Wade looks like impacted feces and Bosh has virtually 0 impact I'm hardly surprised, if anything I'm shocked it took this long for them to go there.

[NumberSix]

Miami haters be hating. I ain't mad at cha doe.

[tmacattack33]

...to make people believe he is playing 1 vs 5, giving all the credit to lebron when they win, and putting all the blame on the teamates when they lose, just like when he was in cleveland.

I mean, anyone who watched sportscenter after the games know what i'm saying.

After game 2 loss: Sportscenter presenter and the analyst discuss that lebron had to carry the team throughout the game, and that the late 2 turnovers were results of the fatigue, and that the 12-28 shooting from wade and bosh together didn't help either. In my opinion, if the game is tied late, it's just a matter of execution, pacers executed and miami didn't, and that's include lebron turning the ball over.

After game 3 win: The whole team played well, it was a blowout, but once again ESPN comes and praise lebron post game, makes articles about it, giving the impression it was all about him.

After game 4 loss: Same thing, lebron can't do it alone, wade and bosh needs to step up.

Last night: this video sums it up: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9327556

If you are the best player in the world, the MVP, you are supposed to go out and perform, put numbers and carry your team.

So i think if you are going to get the credit for your team wins, you also should take the blame if your team lose.

But that's not what happens, Lebron is always protected by the media, specially by ESPN. Basically, they are trying to make Lebron as the savior and a scrub carrier.

I just wonder what wade and bosh might think about it, they knew that they would live in lebron's shadow, but not in this extent.

Miami has played in 11 total playoff series so far.

In 10 of them, you hardly heard stuff like this from ESPN...or anyone. Because against Chicago Bosh was good. Against OKC last year, all three of the big three were good. Against Indiana last year, Wade was great. Against New York last year, Wade was good.


...so maybe Bosh and Wade are actually indeed just having a terrible series? You ever think about that?

[pegasus]

I wonder what that makes your Bulls? Guys from the back of the bench carrying the team with stars like Rose, Deng and Heinrich out and they got to 2nd round and pressured Miami.
We'd be still behind Miami, OKC, and probably LAC in terms of having the most talent, but we'd make up for that with heart and pressure Miami even more. But what does that have to do with Miami's roster? Are you denying the fact that several players have stepped up while Bosh and Wade have been struggling?

[3LiftHeatCurse]

As a Heat fan, I gotta say I don't like LBJ throwing his teammates under the bus

"Going back to his Cleveland days"........... wtf man.. Did Wade go on his post-game presser during and after the 2011 Finals and throw LBJ under the bus?



Honestly, I don't know why LBJ does this. I am grateful for the run my Heat was blessed with. I was in euphoria when I heard "taking my talents to South Beach" in 2010 during that ridiculous TV special........ but dude..... if LBJ leaves in 2014 to go back to CLE, I won't care that much.

With his embarrassing flopping, and LBJ giving Paul George DAPS... LBJ is ****ing dapping the enemy during game 1 or 2 for dunking on a LBJ teammate.....you know how much confidence that gives George....., or LBJ's constant weird things he says......

W/e dude. I agree Bosh is soft as **** and I want him gone, but don't throw him and Wade under the bus to the media. That's weak as ****.

[Goldrush25]

wade must be having buyer's remorse after recruiting this clown to his town. Now wade's legacy is getting dragged thru the mud by lebron's ppl in the press

Wade wasn't winning another chip without Lebron. That's just reality.

If he's sensitive enough to where he's losing self esteem because of Lebron's presence as you suggest (a premise which I reject), then that's his problem.

If you can't see that Lebron is dragging this team along, then I don't know what to tell you.

[dh144498]

As a Heat fan, I gotta say I don't like LBJ throwing his teammates under the bus

"Going back to his Cleveland days"........... wtf man.. Did Wade go on his post-game presser during and after the 2011 Finals and throw LBJ under the bus?



Honestly, I don't know why LBJ does this. I am grateful for the run my Heat was blessed with. I was in euphoria when I heard "taking my talents to South Beach" in 2010 during that ridiculous TV special........ but dude..... if LBJ leaves in 2014 to go back to CLE, I won't care that much.

With his embarrassing flopping, and LBJ giving Paul George DAPS... LBJ is ****ing dapping the enemy during game 1 or 2 for dunking on a LBJ teammate.....you know how much confidence that gives George....., or LBJ's constant weird things he says......

W/e dude. I agree Bosh is soft as **** and I want him gone, but don't throw him and Wade under the bus to the media. That's weak as ****.

:applause:

a real Heat fan. :applause:

[kNicKz]

I do remember the Cavaliers having 3/5 of their starting line up being all star caliber and they definitely had the greatest 3 point shooter of all time, along with an elite perimeter defender / flopper

:biggums:

[Rose'sACL]

As a Heat fan, I gotta say I don't like LBJ throwing his teammates under the bus

"Going back to his Cleveland days"........... wtf man.. Did Wade go on his post-game presser during and after the 2011 Finals and throw LBJ under the bus?



Honestly, I don't know why LBJ does this. I am grateful for the run my Heat was blessed with. I was in euphoria when I heard "taking my talents to South Beach" in 2010 during that ridiculous TV special........ but dude..... if LBJ leaves in 2014 to go back to CLE, I won't care that much.

With his embarrassing flopping, and LBJ giving Paul George DAPS... LBJ is ****ing dapping the enemy during game 1 or 2 for dunking on a LBJ teammate.....you know how much confidence that gives George....., or LBJ's constant weird things he says......

W/e dude. I agree Bosh is soft as **** and I want him gone, but don't throw him and Wade under the bus to the media. That's weak as ****.
ease up. he just said

[lilgodfather1]

And it's been that way. No big deal. Just LeBron, floor spacing, and a few role players that might pop off for 20. If he leads this team to a title then he can pretty much lead any other.

[SpecialQue]

Stars make money.

Lebron tainted his "brand" with the decision, so when the Mavs won, ESPN must have been thrilled because they could play up the "underdog beats the superteam!" angle.

Last season it was all Durant vs. Lebron. Lebron had a historic season, so now it was possible to hype him up as the second coming of Jordan. This is the angle they've gone with since then, since now it's OK for everyone to love Lebron again. Now they're trying to make it seem like, just because Bosh and Wade aren't playing as well, that they're somehow compatible to the Mo & co. in Cleveland, even though Wade and Bosh easily demand attention on defense and absolutely cannot be taken lightly due to their reputations as great players.

The announcers in general have been playing this shit up ever since Westbrook went down. Did anyone catch during one of the Thunder's games against the Grizzlies, when one of those dipshit announcers said, "now Durant probably knows why Lebron went to Miami!" It was clear at that point that they've gone past being objective to openly promoting their star like Will Smith pumping up his idiot kid during a media circuit promoting his shitty new movie.

[longtime lurker]

Get used to it. In a few years people will begin to view Lebron in an overrated light. Especially if he bails on yet another team.

[Mr. Jabbar]

completely agree, don't remember which game but he had a bad game this series and nba.com headline was something in the lines of "lebron lead his team with 20 or so pts" it was one of his worst games against indiana this series and nba.com completely covered it.

im not hating on leshortcut with this, this has been how nba rolls for a while, i remember some of godbes bad games they did the same, its disgusting...

[Blue&Orange]

this is why Lebron is overrated, because of the propaganda like this. He is a great player, top 30 all time, but come on, he didn't carry anything.
Overrated, nah, dude plays like the superstar he is supposed to be for 8 minutes in the entire playoffs and we got threads "when lebron plays like this, he does is like nobody else!"

:lol


When Tony Delk plays like on that 51 point game he does is like nobody else!

[dh144498]

Overrated, nah, dude plays like the superstar he is supposed to be for 8 minutes in the entire playoffs and we got threads "when lebron plays like this, he does is like nobody else!"

:lol


When Tony Delk plays like on that 51 point game he does is like nobody else!

he is overrated, when people are talking about him with MJ.

[Remix]

his teammates are playing bad.....does lebron REALLY make his teammates better????

[The-Legend-24]

"Makes he's teammates better" :oldlol: I dislike Wade, but I'm starting to feel for the guy, no matter what he does it's all about Lebron. Guarantee you that if Wade goes bonkers in the finals, the ESPN story is gonna be how it was Lebron who elevated his play.

[Heavincent]

ESPN propaganda disgusts me.

[Kingwillball]

TNT is even worse as Kenny and the boys have been selling all series long against the Pacers Lebron needs to be Superman in order to win. Almost like they forgot how many weapons the HEat have and actually jinxed them cause I thought it was Funny at first but found myself saying how did they know this and why do they keep saying this is a 7 gm series ect ? almost seems fishy.

[LeBird]

If anyone has actually watched the series they'd know the other 'stars' have been trash. Lebron is doing what he did at the Cavs.

[jstern]

I believe Inside the NBA said it too. I wonder why they would say such a thing.

[AlphaWolf24]

TNT is even worse as Kenny and the boys have been selling all series long against the Pacers Lebron needs to be Superman in order to win. Almost like they forgot how many weapons the HEat have and actually jinxed them cause I thought it was Funny at first but found myself saying how did they know this and why do they keep saying this is a 7 gm series ect ? almost seems fishy.


Yes the inside the NBA crew has ties to the corrupt David Stern....

it's just a Big Conspiracy...

[nightprowler10]

Stars make money.

Lebron tainted his "brand" with the decision, so when the Mavs won, ESPN must have been thrilled because they could play up the "underdog beats the superteam!" angle.

Last season it was all Durant vs. Lebron. Lebron had a historic season, so now it was possible to hype him up as the second coming of Jordan. This is the angle they've gone with since then, since now it's OK for everyone to love Lebron again. Now they're trying to make it seem like, just because Bosh and Wade aren't playing as well, that they're somehow compatible to the Mo & co. in Cleveland, even though Wade and Bosh easily demand attention on defense and absolutely cannot be taken lightly due to their reputations as great players.

The announcers in general have been playing this shit up ever since Westbrook went down. Did anyone catch during one of the Thunder's games against the Grizzlies, when one of those dipshit announcers said, "now Durant probably knows why Lebron went to Miami!" It was clear at that point that they've gone past being objective to openly promoting their star like Will Smith pumping up his idiot kid during a media circuit promoting his shitty new movie.
Great post.

[NBAller]

they aren't lying. lebron's running the show with little to no help. by that i mean most players shots are created thanks to lebron commanding multiple defenders and a lot of defensive attention.

chris bosh has hit a surprising amount of 3 pointers for a power forward not named dirk. i'm not sure what he's doing on the boards without looking it up but i'm sure it's nothing worth being mentioned, not when he goes against david west and hibbert.

wade's not playing superstar like in my opinion. and he can't guard paul george because he's too small.

haslem's been great at hitting his warm up jumpshots that lebron creates because of said defensive attention he demands.

lebrons name is all over this series and is the main reason the heat are winning.

the pacers even know this, have any of you seen those interviews of the pacers? the only person they talked about was lebron, and needless to say it's for a reason.

like lebron said himself, if it's 1 on 1 he's going to take it and if they double he's kicking to the open man. from what i've seen that's been working so far.

but.......lebrons supporting cast in miami is by far A LOT better than what he had in cleveland. no doubt. i don't want that to be mistaken by what i've said above this.

[Le Shaqtus]

Man what an insult to his team, I'd be mad as shit if I was Wade or Bosh :facepalm How can the best player in the world for years be so bitch made? his off the court persona is terrible.

[Cangri]

Man what an insult to his team, I'd be mad as shit if I was Wade or Bosh :facepalm How can the best player in the world for years be so bitch made? his off the court persona is terrible.
They can't protest at all since they are playing like complete sht. Most of the points from Wade are thanks to Lebron.

[Le Shaqtus]

They can't protest at all since they are playing like complete sht. Most of the points from Wade are thanks to Lebron.

I agree they've been playing like shit, but are we going to just forget the fantastic run they had last year to the championship? Wade was averaging 20+ ppg in the play offs to begin with, Battier was unbelievably hot from 3, Chalmers stepped up massive and had a couple of 20 point games in the finals.

Like I said, they've been playing like shit this series but people forget that this is a fantastic team, for LeBron to say stupid shit like that is an insult to the Heat, especially Wade who's been carrying that team since before LeBron even ran his bitch ass away from Cleveland to join him.

[NBAller]

I agree they've been playing like shit, but are we going to just forget the fantastic run they had last year to the championship? Wade was averaging 20+ ppg in the play offs to begin with, Battier was unbelievably hot from 3, Chalmers stepped up massive and had a couple of 20 point games in the finals.

Like I said, they've been playing like shit this series but people forget that this is a fantastic team, for LeBron to say stupid shit like that is an insult to the Heat, especially Wade who's been carrying that team since before LeBron even ran his bitch ass away from Cleveland to join him.

that shit right there is the problem with a lot of posters here. we're talking about NOW...THIS SERIES.....LAST YEAR has NOTHING to do with what they're doing now. if they were playing exactly how they were LAST YEAR, this whole scenario wouldn't even be a discussion because bron wouldn't be doing everything on his own.

nobody forgot nothing jesus christ.

[Rose'sACL]

I agree they've been playing like shit, but are we going to just forget the fantastic run they had last year to the championship? Wade was averaging 20+ ppg in the play offs to begin with, Battier was unbelievably hot from 3, Chalmers stepped up massive and had a couple of 20 point games in the finals.

Like I said, they've been playing like shit this series but people forget that this is a fantastic team, for LeBron to say stupid shit like that is an insult to the Heat, especially Wade who's been carrying that team since before LeBron even ran his bitch ass away from Cleveland to join him.
What stupid shit did he say? Read the quote and see how stupid you are. Guys like you make fun of ESPN and at the same time are influenced by what ESPN says. are you some edgy teenager who hates every new movie but goes to see them anyways?

[Le Shaqtus]

What stupid shit did he say? Read the quote and see how stupid you are. Guys like you make fun of ESPN and at the same time are influenced by what ESPN says. are you some edgy teenager who hates every new movie but goes to see them anyways?

The only movie that I hated that was new at the time was Battleship :lol And I'm 21, but thanks for the assumption.

[Le Shaqtus]

that shit right there is the problem with a lot of posters here. we're talking about NOW...THIS SERIES.....LAST YEAR has NOTHING to do with what they're doing now. if they were playing exactly how they were LAST YEAR, this whole scenario wouldn't even be a discussion because bron wouldn't be doing everything on his own.

nobody forgot nothing jesus christ.

Simmer down broseph, I'm discussing basketball, I'm not trying to get under your skin :cheers:

[niko]

Lebron mentioned Cleveland. If he doesn't say it, there is no traction of this from ESPN.

[gilalizard]

wade must be having buyer's remorse after recruiting this clown to his town. Now wade's legacy is getting dragged thru the mud by lebron's ppl in the press

dwhistle doesn't need any help tarnishing his legacy, he's doing that all on his own with all the cheap shots, flopping and incessant whining.

[Purch]

:roll:

[SpecialQue]

Reggie did it tonight as a joke, but even he has to know it's fvcking retarded.

[cavsfanatic]

The hate for Lebron is why people don't see that it is The Miami Cavs. Wade looking worse than Mo Williams ever did

[NBAller]

Simmer down broseph, I'm discussing basketball, I'm not trying to get under your skin :cheers:

i know you're not... just got irritated by all the bs being said on here lately. cause people that don't know any better read it believe it then regurgitate it.

[PleezeBelieve]

Wade looking like Larry Hughes and Bosh playing like a 3rd year Varejao

[lilgodfather1]

Wade looking like Larry Hughes and Bosh playing like a 3rd year Varejao
Come on now. Bosh is playing far worse basketball than even rookie Andy. You could at least expect 8 or more rebounds from Andy instead of Bosh's 1 a game.

[B-Easy8]

Watch the games, his team is awful.

Wade looks like he should retire, Bosh is a jump shooting scrub big man and everyone else on the team is garbage.

They all watch him and wait to shoot open jumpshots. No one else can create their own shot.

[Haks]

without lebron james the heat wouldve been swept. This notion of Heat being stacked is a joke

[Frozen1]

Just as i stated in the first post, once again Lebron teamates are taking a shot for the heat loss. I'm by no means trying to defend wade or bosh, they are playing the worst basketball of their careers, being straight up garbage.

The game was lost on the third quarter, as everyone who watched knows it. So why isn't ESPN talking about the horrible lebron james third quarter??? His 2 or 3 straight killer turnovers that resulted on easy indiana's fast break points???

As the team faced adversity, he did nothing, was just as shook as his teamates. There was one point that all of heat 6 or 7 points in the quarter were scored by Wade(who was playing like sh!t). Oh and nobody mention that he started something like 4-6 and went in a 3-11 run between the second and third quarters.

So, if you are the best player in the world, your standards are higher than the others, so i expect lebron james take over or at least try to let the team in the game in situations like that, but he failed.

So he ends up scoring some points in the 4th quarter when the game was already lost, ends up with 29 on 10-21, and nobody talks about it.

The only guy in the media who seems to see what i see is Skip Bayless. Look at his tweet after the game that i 100% agree:

Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless 12 h
All the chatter will be about LeBron getting "no help" but I was disappointed in him tonite. Not enough "attack mode," urgency, focused fury

[Straight_Ballin]

Heat players did not like it when Bron quitted on Cleveland against Boston. Stern has asked Bron's teammates to play like shit so that Bron may be taught a lesson and what it feels like when you quit on your team.