Has there ever been a lesser respected superstar than Lebron?

[KungFuJoe]

I'm not talking about hate. Guys like Wilt, Bird, Barkley, etc...they all got a lot of hate from fans for things they did, said, or simply because they always shat on their favorite teams.

But, in all the years I've followed basketball (since late 80s), I've never seen a superstar so disrespected by fans. People calling him a flopper, a bitch, folds under pressure, mentally weak...yet some people say he's one of the GOAT, right up there with guys like Jordan, Wilt, Russell, etc.

I, for one, can't stand the guy. As great as he is, I don't respect him or his game one bit. And I can't say that for any other superstar ever. I hate Kobe, but I respect his game and his will to win, even if he's an unconscious chucker who caused me to stop being a Lakers fan. I hated Bird as well (being a huge Lakers fan back in the day) but I feared and respected him whenever he would play against the Lakers.

I just can't think of any superstar ever who garnered the amount of ridicule that Lebron gets. CP3 is the only one I can remotely think of, due to his flopping, but he is clutch as hell and his game is ridiculously smooth.

What say you, ISH?...any superstars less respected that BronBron?

[kNicKz]

CP3 is clutch?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[tikay0]

He flops, and he's one the biggest whiners in the NBA. He doesn't deserve any respect.

[(e)]

Dwight definitely has acted like a punk, as has Melo.

But I've definitely lost a ton of respect for him. He's a diva and acts like a child on the court when things aren't going his way, or when the whistle doesn't favor him. He's in the refs ear after every single whistle against him. Him running down the court losing his mind after that offensive foul. For real dude, you're a grown ass man acting like a 5 year old.

One of the most gifted players ever to play though. Entertaining to watch outside of all his diva, crying, and flopping baggage.

[Jacks3]

What a strange post.

The guy who has been a monumentally large part of your team getting 5 more Championships is what caused you stop being a fan? :biggums:

[Legends66NBA7]

CP3 is clutch?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Chris Paul is disrespected for comments like this.

[Legends66NBA7]

I honestly don't see James that hated or disrespected in the real. Only online, where everything can (and is) blown out of proportion.

[Nebraskanball]

I hate Kobe, but I respect his game and his will to win, even if he's an unconscious chucker

Lebron takes more shots per game than Kobe. So does MJ. They are bigger "chuckers."

And no. Lebron doesn't deserve respect. The way he plays, I don't think he even wants it.

[(e)]

I honestly don't see James that hated or disrespected in the real. Only online, where everything can (and is) blown out of proportion.
Things being blown out of proportion isn't just an online thing. Just watch ESPN. They change their tune after every game.

Heat win, oh Heat got this in the bag.
Pacers win, looks like Indiana is going to pull it off.
Heat win, Heat have complete control.
Pacers win, Pacers take next step, look to move on to finals.

You get the point lol

[Patrick Chewing]

He flops, he whines and that whole "decision" saga is what solidified his bitchness for me. He constantly puts himself above the game. And nobody is above the game. F8ck that guy!

[Legends66NBA7]

Just watch ESPN. They change their tune after every game.

Heat win, oh Heat got this in the bag.
Pacers win, looks like Indiana is going to pull it off.
Heat win, Heat have complete control.
Pacers win, Pacers take next step, look to move on to finals.

You get the point lol

I don't watch them for similar reasons, but since they are such a big company, I can see how they influence the majority today.

[Bugz]

Cause Lebron is the first to play in this crazy online era we are in.

[longtime lurker]

I honestly don't see James that hated or disrespected in the real. Only online, where everything can (and is) blown out of proportion.

This is true, but there is an alarming amount of NBA players that don't seem to respect him. And I think the majority of it can be attributed to the flopping, whining and pampering by the refs.

[jzek]

Yes, Wade.

[Legends66NBA7]

And nobody is above the game.

Wasn't Michael Jordan above the game at his peak ?

[KungFuJoe]

CP3 is clutch?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Not his fault Blake Griffin doesn't want the ball in the 4th quarter.

[STATUTORY]

when your peers don't respect you despite the media coronating you as the king, you know there's some bs that we the public is not seeing.

Lebron needs to understand that you can be given rings by carpetbagging onto another team and exploiting a strike shortened season. but respect needs to be EARNED.

[KungFuJoe]

What a strange post.

The guy who has been a monumentally large part of your team getting 5 more Championships is what caused you stop being a fan? :biggums:

You're derailing the topic, but yeah...I think anyone who was a fan of the Magic led showtime Lakers looks at the Lakers post Shaq and just shakes their heads.

[Goldrush25]

This is absurd.

Lesser respected superstar? That's an oxymoron. One gains the denotation of superstar because they're immensely respected at their craft. All of this derision coming from people like the OP?? Comes with the territory. It just amounts to the petulant child that sits in the corner, making a lot of noise and wanting to be noticed.

That's almost like asking has their been a lesser respected president than Barack Obama. His very position exposes him to a lot of detractors that disrespect him constantly. But he wouldn't be where he was if he wasn't immensely respected.

Everything is magnified because of this microwave, online society that we live in. I walk down the street, I go to work and people I know don't dislike Lebron James. They don't talk about flopping or any of the petty stuff you guys on here talk about. That's because that stuff doesn't matter. They just like watching him play. Even the couple of people that I do know that don't care for him don't dislike him enough to come on a message board and make 20 threads a day saying how much he sucks. You're just a very loud, very small minority.

I know you want this to be a bigger thing than it is, but it isn't. Most people simply appreciate him for the basketball player he is. No one cares about flopping. No one cares about the Decision. No one cares.

[Jacks3]

You're derailing the topic, but yeah...I think anyone who was a fan of the Magic led showtime Lakers looks at the Lakers post Shaq and just shakes their heads.
3 Finals. 2 Championships. Why would they be shaking their head?

Yeah, I'm sure Laker fans everywhere are disgusted...

[Yao Ming's Foot]

You're derailing the topic, but yeah...I think anyone who was a fan of the Magic led showtime Lakers looks at the Lakers post Shaq and just shakes their heads.

Shaking their head at how Kobe was able to do with Pau what Magic needed at least Kareem AND Worthy to pull off. :confusedshrug:

To answer your question it would be Kobe. Unmatched longevity and greatness with an unrivaled championship legacy (with only 1 HOF teammate per title team) and yet he still has poor souls denouncing him.

Forgive them Kobe for they know not what they speak.

[Real Men Wear Green]

4 MVP awards and you think he isn't respected? Don't mistake message board trolling for anything significant.

[KungFuJoe]

Funny...there are people who don't like what I'm saying but still not one mention of a superstar less respected than Lebron. I think that speaks volumes.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Funny...there are people who don't like what I'm saying but still not one mention of a superstar less respected than Lebron. I think that speaks volumes.

You already gave the answer in your OP. You claim to have stopped being a fan of a team because one of the greatest players of all time was on it stacking championships. :confusedshrug:

[Le Shaqtus]

I know you want this to be a bigger thing than it is, but it isn't. Most people simply appreciate him for the basketball player he is. No one cares about flopping. No one cares about the Decision. No one cares.

People do care, maybe not from where you're from. Where I live there have been lots of people who lost respect for LeBron for the Decision and, and call him a bitch because he flops :confusedshrug: You don't speak for everyone.

It matters less now, it was 3 years ago. But it still happened and people don't forget.

[Done_And_Done]

This is absurd.

Lesser respected superstar? That's an oxymoron. One gains the denotation of superstar because they're immensely respected at their craft. All of this derision coming from people like the OP?? Comes with the territory. It just amounts to the petulant child that sits in the corner, making a lot of noise and wanting to be noticed.

That's almost like asking has their been a lesser respected president than Barack Obama. His very position exposes him to a lot of detractors that disrespect him constantly. But he wouldn't be where he was if he wasn't immensely respected.

Everything is magnified because of this microwave, online society that we live in. I walk down the street, I go to work and people I know don't dislike Lebron James. They don't talk about flopping or any of the petty stuff you guys on here talk about. That's because that stuff doesn't matter. They just like watching him play. Even the couple of people that I do know that don't care for him don't dislike him enough to come on a message board and make 20 threads a day saying how much he sucks. You're just a very loud, very small minority.

I know you want this to be a bigger thing than it is, but it isn't. Most people simply appreciate him for the basketball player he is. No one cares about flopping. No one cares about the Decision. No one cares.


The feeling is most certainly not mutual in this pocket of the globe. The majority of people that I've encountered (both hardcore & casual fans of the game) absolutely detest the guy and ardently bask in his failures...

[poido123]

Wasn't Michael Jordan above the game at his peak ?

Where are you going with this?


I guess in a way he was, he came into the league at a time where it truly needed someone special, and he delivered.

He was a highlight reel, but he was also very good. Combine those two, and you can turn him into a basketball god. Then of course the marketing..

[poido123]

when your peers don't respect you despite the media coronating you as the king, you know there's some bs that we the public is not seeing.

Lebron needs to understand that you can be given rings by carpetbagging onto another team and exploiting a strike shortened season. but respect needs to be EARNED.

You always post well.

Yeah, that is what is sad for Lebron. He can do all these things to draw attention to himself, and make himself out to be all great winning titles with the best players, flopping to get an advantage, but at the end of the day, he will lose respect from his peers. Some loyal fans will say how great he was, but the reality is, people will look back on his career and asterisk alot of it, and say how he took shortcuts and of course was a general douchebag.

[Goldrush25]

The feeling is most certainly not mutual in this pocket of the globe. The majority of people that I've encountered (both hardcore & casual fans of the game) absolutely detest the guy and ardently bask in his failures...

If that's your experience, fine.

He has more fans than anyone else in the NBA. That means he has more haters too. The bigger you get in life, the more people line up, waiting to tear you down.

[G-Funk]

Kobe, he gets so much hate eve u had to shyt on him in this thread

[Rose'sACL]

his shoes sell 6 times more than any active nba player's. I am sure all those shoes are bought by cavs fans so that they can burn them.

[poido123]

If that's your experience, fine.

He has more fans than anyone else in the NBA. That means he has more haters too. The bigger you get in life, the more people line up, waiting to tear you down.

Except people don't hate him because he's some kind of Jordan. That's what you don't get.

[poido123]

his shoes sell 6 times more than any active nba player's. I am sure all those shoes are bought by cavs fans so that they can burn them.

:lol:

[I.R.Beast]

He flops, a lot. He whines , a lot. He colludes to form a super team. He gets touchy at any comment made by teams/coaches/players that he deems is a shot fired at him. His game diminishes the role of other good players. What is there to like. On top of that his game isnt aesthetically pleasing to watch.

[dbk123]

He flops, he whines and that whole "decision" saga is what solidified his bitchness for me. He constantly puts himself above the game. And nobody is above the game. F8ck that guy!
would you still hate him if he chose the knicks that day?

[WayOfWade]

I'd say Wade's up there. I'm one of the few that actually still defends him (as my favorite player).
Kobe gets a lot of hate, but also equal to or greater cult-like love.
LeBron has near equal Haters and Lovers.
D-Rose though, he's workin hard to get on that level.

[xoracle55]

Same ISH creeps chorus their hate and disrespect for Lebron, so refreshing! Poido123, Ripthekick and co, get a fu***ng life, losers! You have no positive contribution on this forum at all! Nada! Y'all should be banned..

[gilalizard]

LeBron does flop. As much, if not more, than anyone in the league.

Pointing it out is not disrespect. It's observation.

[Patrick Chewing]

would you still hate him if he chose the knicks that day?


Remember who you're talking to. Us Knicks fan would have already crucified him for not winning it all as he didn't do in his first year with the Heat.

[xoracle55]

LeBron does flop. As much, if not more, than anyone in the league.

Pointing it out is not disrespect. It's observation.

Observation my ass! It's well and good to point flopping out but have they ever observed and point out anything good that Lebron does? The hate, the bias and the trolling do get tiresome! Ban these juveniles already!

[Shepseskaf]

D-Rose though, he's workin hard to get on that level.
So true. At least LBJ shows up to work.

Rose may become the only superstar hated by his own city.

[kamil]

LeBron* has earned all of the hate. He's a product of his own actions. Good for him. My only problem with him now is how the NBA is protecting his flops. Takes away from the credibility of his game... which makes you think if he's questioning his own game; can he not beat his opponents legitimately?

Thus he flops and no respect for him should be given. He's a fraud and the collusion takes away even more of his one and only ring. Only reason why I can't bitch about it now is because its been done and no way to reverse it. NBA should have looked into collusion when it happened.

[Legends66NBA7]

Where are you going with this?


I guess in a way he was, he came into the league at a time where it truly needed someone special, and he delivered.

He was a highlight reel, but he was also very good. Combine those two, and you can turn him into a basketball god. Then of course the marketing..

I've listened to several of Jordan's documentary's and there was particular quote about how (around time of the 92' Olympics) "when he went to Barcelona, you could truly see who was the most well known player"... There were questions asked to Magic Johnson and Larry Bird if they knew they were the most popular basketball player, but it turned out to be Jordan by a large margin. Then the quote that came up was something along the lines off:

"That's when you knew he was bigger than the game, itself.". That's what I was getting at. Unless, I've quoted this wrong ?

[KungFuJoe]

DRose is a good one and the only one who can rival LeBron's "bitch" factor. But a huge difference is rose had a serious injury and LeBron's only ailment is he bleeds from his ****** once a month.

[kamil]

I've listened to several of Jordan's documentary's and there was particular quote about how (around time of the 92' Olympics) "when he went to Barcelona, you could truly see who was the most well known player"... There were questions asked to Magic Johnson and Larry Bird if they knew they were the most popular basketball player, but it turned out to be Jordan by a large margin. Then the quote that came up was something along the lines off:

"That's when you knew he was bigger than the game, itself.". That's what I was getting at. Unless, I've quoted this wrong ?

I think this is the documentary your looking for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_JQT_dbRuE&feature=share&list=PLDR1qeEYeNGhDl3xPnPgxmeYo360NRjXK

[Goldrush25]

Except people don't hate him because he's some kind of Jordan. That's what you don't get.

Well, if anyone hates an athlete in the first place, they have serious issues. It's not that serious. Lebron didn't do anything to you guys.

[clutchinho]

Lebron is disrespected because

1. Prematurely hyped up by Nike and the NBA to be the Chosen One when he hasn't achieved anything

2. Showed his true character in the Decision, bitch made move


All his flopping and playoff chokes wouldn't be as annoying, or even brought up as much if it weren't for those 2 reasons.

[Legends66NBA7]

I think this is the documentary your looking for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_JQT_dbRuE&feature=share&list=PLDR1qeEYeNGhDl3xPnPgxmeYo360NRjXK

Yeah, I've already watched that documentary and the quote is most likely in there. But that's not the only movie I've seen the quote come from. The other one I'm probably referencing is "Air Time".

[tazb]

LeBron is underrated on this board. For the things this man does (literally has to do everything for his team to succeed) people still hate him just cause of the "decision" lmao. If LeBron went to ANY other team in the league, that team would be instant contenders. Can't say the same for any other superstar in the league.

[Funnyfuka]

I'm not talking about hate. Guys like Wilt, Bird, Barkley, etc...they all got a lot of hate from fans for things they did, said, or simply because they always shat on their favorite teams.

But, in all the years I've followed basketball (since late 80s), I've never seen a superstar so disrespected by fans. People calling him a flopper, a bitch, folds under pressure, mentally weak...yet some people say he's one of the GOAT, right up there with guys like Jordan, Wilt, Russell, etc.

I, for one, can't stand the guy. As great as he is, I don't respect him or his game one bit. And I can't say that for any other superstar ever. I hate Kobe, but I respect his game and his will to win, even if he's an unconscious chucker who caused me to stop being a Lakers fan. I hated Bird as well (being a huge Lakers fan back in the day) but I feared and respected him whenever he would play against the Lakers.

I just can't think of any superstar ever who garnered the amount of ridicule that Lebron gets. CP3 is the only one I can remotely think of, due to his flopping, but he is clutch as hell and his game is ridiculously smooth.

What say you, ISH?...any superstars less respected that BronBron?

hi lebron james.

[tazb]

Lmao at Knicks fans/Melo stans talking shit. Your pathetic franchise and "superstar" have literally no room to talk.

[Xiengqichess]

First, He's overprotected by the NBA and the Media.
Second, he's got limited skill even though he's smart , high IQ player. If you want to learn some moves from him, there's nothing.
Third, He's cocky yet he whines and acts like a baby.
He joined others two stars in theirs prime.

Just can't respect him even though he's really good and won.

[clutchinho]

LeBron is underrated on this board. For the things this man does (literally has to do everything for his team to succeed) people still hate him just cause of the "decision" lmao. If LeBron went to ANY other team in the league, that team would be instant contenders. Can't say the same for any other superstar in the league.

We have 13 year olds here, including yourself, convinced that Lebron is top 5 all time already

Underrated? **** outta here

[ConanRulesNBC]

He has no one to blame but himself. He's handled himself horribly throughout his entire NBA career so far.

[dh144498]

so you stop being a Laker fan because of Kobe, who played an essential part of 5 championships.... nice one.

[Legends66NBA7]

LeBron is underrated on this board.

There are 12 topics on the first page with his name on the title. Many recognize his greatness, consider him high on arbitrary all-time lists, and some consider him "god".

Nothing underrated about the man.

The rest of the post was just things I see online, not real life.

[tazb]

We have 13 year olds here, including yourself, convinced that Lebron is top 5 all time already

Underrated? **** outta here

Who the **** said he's top 5 all time? He's for sure on pace to be but currently he's top 20.

[DonDadda59]

LeRodney Dangerfield :(

[305Baller]

LeRodney Dangerfield :(

you have won the internet

[Greg Oden 50]

I'm not talking about hate. Guys like Wilt, Bird, Barkley, etc...they all got a lot of hate from fans for things they did, said, or simply because they always shat on their favorite teams.

But, in all the years I've followed basketball (since late 80s), I've never seen a superstar so disrespected by fans. People calling him a flopper, a bitch, folds under pressure, mentally weak...yet some people say he's one of the GOAT, right up there with guys like Jordan, Wilt, Russell, etc.

I, for one, can't stand the guy. As great as he is, I don't respect him or his game one bit. And I can't say that for any other superstar ever. I hate Kobe, but I respect his game and his will to win, even if he's an unconscious chucker who caused me to stop being a Lakers fan. I hated Bird as well (being a huge Lakers fan back in the day) but I feared and respected him whenever he would play against the Lakers.

I just can't think of any superstar ever who garnered the amount of ridicule that Lebron gets. CP3 is the only one I can remotely think of, due to his flopping, but he is clutch as hell and his game is ridiculously smooth.

What say you, ISH?...any superstars less respected that BronBron?

Leflop IS THE MOST OVERRATED PLAYER EVER :rockon:

[tpols]

LeBron is underrated on this board. For the things this man does (literally has to do everything for his team to succeed) people still hate him just cause of the "decision" lmao. If LeBron went to ANY other team in the league, that team would be instant contenders. Can't say the same for any other superstar in the league.
I think the reason Lebron doesn't command respect from his peers is because he has that insane amount of talent and ability but chooses to flop and play like a bitch despite being a physical beast.

He's like a rich kid complaining that he doesn't have enough..

[KungFuJoe]

so you stop being a Laker fan because of Kobe, who played an essential part of 5 championships.... nice one.

It's not just Kobe. It's been a long time coming. I stuck through the Smush Parker years...and beating the celtics for the last ring was awesome. But that final game kind of embodied what would become of the lakers. Kobe becoming more of a detriment and them winning in spite of him rather than because of him. He redeemed himself somewhat this year but he was the most frustrating person to watch the previous seasons. And then the whole Dwight thing and Odom gone and all these new faces...I don't even recognize these lakers no more.

Also doesn't help that I detest D'antoni for how he handled Gasol, who I've always liked.

If the lakers lose Dwight, I'll reconsider. I hate that fake bastard.

[TheTenth]

I think the reason Lebron doesn't command respect from his peers is because he has that insane amount of talent and ability but chooses to flop and play like a bitch despite being a physical beast.

He's like a rich kid complaining that he doesn't have enough..
Flopping has been shamed upon since the 50s as far as I'm aware...

[Straight_Ballin]

This is absurd.

Lesser respected superstar? That's an oxymoron. One gains the denotation of superstar because they're immensely respected at their craft. All of this derision coming from people like the OP?? Comes with the territory. It just amounts to the petulant child that sits in the corner, making a lot of noise and wanting to be noticed.

That's almost like asking has their been a lesser respected president than Barack Obama. His very position exposes him to a lot of detractors that disrespect him constantly. But he wouldn't be where he was if he wasn't immensely respected.

Everything is magnified because of this microwave, online society that we live in. I walk down the street, I go to work and people I know don't dislike Lebron James. They don't talk about flopping or any of the petty stuff you guys on here talk about. That's because that stuff doesn't matter. They just like watching him play. Even the couple of people that I do know that don't care for him don't dislike him enough to come on a message board and make 20 threads a day saying how much he sucks. You're just a very loud, very small minority.

I know you want this to be a bigger thing than it is, but it isn't. Most people simply appreciate him for the basketball player he is. No one cares about flopping. No one cares about the Decision. No one cares.

Are you living under a rock? If you don't know that everyone is aware of the decision and the flops and it casts lebron in a negative light then you are living in a dream world.

[tpols]

You can have superstar ability and not get respect still.. Look at Noah calling the heat Hollywood.. He's basically calling them fake b!tches

Players respect the talent and ability but they basically think the whole team is soft and capable of being punked.

Look at Shawn Marion calling Bron a b!tch right to his face.. It's like a bully acting tough because he's bigger than you but you know his bark is much bigger than his bite.

[Flash31]

DWYANE WADE

He literally gets 0 respect from anybody,the media,fans,people here,everywhere

People only say negative things about him,and the media only reports on him when its negative

I mean during Miamis 27 win streak
Wade put up 26,5,5 on 54% fg
and the media and everybody said nothing

then when he had two bad games,the media said hes declined,washed up,everything bad,from espn to barkley to people here,yet when hes playing good
nothing

he avg 21,5,5 on 52%fg with a block and steal playing 33 min
hes the oly guard avg over a block per game,and including tony parker,tied with
the best shooting guard in the league
yet nothing

he has a finals mvp,avg 35,6,5 in those finals yet nothing
in 2011 finals he avg 27,6,6 on 56% fg
yet nothing

he has 2 rings,yet people discredit him all the time


he avg 25,5,5 with a block and steal on 50%fg
For his Career

and its just hate and negative all around

no matter what he does


Literally the most disrespected,media hated player of all time

He gets 0 respect

[tpols]

DWYANE WADE

He literally gets 0 respect from anybody,the media,fans,people here,everywhere

People only say negative things about him,and the media only reports on him when its negative

I mean during Miamis 27 win streak
Wade put up 26,5,5 on 54% fg
and the media and everybody said nothing

then when he had two bad games,the media said hes declined,washed up,everything bad,from espn to barkley to people here,yet when hes playing good
nothing

he avg 21,5,5 on 52%fg with a block and steal playing 33 min
hes the oly guard avg over a block per game,and including tony parker,tied with
the best shooting guard in the league
yet nothing

he has a finals mvp,avg 35,6,5 in those finals yet nothing
in 2011 finals he avg 27,6,6 on 56% fg
yet nothing

he has 2 rings,yet people discredit him all the time


he avg 25,5,5 with a block and steal on 50%fg
For his Career

and its just hate and negative all around

no matter what he does


Literally the most disrespected,media hated player of all time

He gets 0 respect
Because he flops and ref baits more than any other superstar in history.

Straight snitchin

[Flash31]

Because he flops and ref baits more than any other superstar in history.

Straight snitchin


Didnt know DWYANE
WADE
suddenly became Kevin Durant or
the all time snitch,needing ref help Kobe Bryant

but eh hate away

[dh144498]

Didnt know DWYANE
WADE
suddenly became Kevin Durant or
the all time snitch,needing ref help Kobe Bryant

but eh hate away

Dwyane Wade, even more so after Lebron and Bosh joined the Heat, flopped and flailed even more while driving to the basket. His sole purpose of driving there was to flop for a foul and not to actually make a basket..... I really liked him before 2011, but since then, i really could not enjoy watching him.
:coleman:

[tpols]

Didnt know DWYANE
WADE
suddenly became Kevin Durant or
the all time snitch,needing ref help Kobe Bryant

but eh hate away
lol not even comparable

[Flash31]

lol not even comparable

Not even comparable,WHAT!?

Durant is the epitome of ref babied,Durant is MR UNTOUCHABLE

Kobe snitched on SHAQ,threw his teammates under the bus time and time again,he avg 9 FTA This Year,WADE 6 Even though WADE Had more FGA in the paint and drives,
and hey Kobe practically invented the throw up a shot"HEY HEY HEY"
that was a foul,to get the refs help
And then Kobe still does the Reggie Miller kickout,the Rip through
and even when he does foul,no call or he hits somebody their fault,foul on them

but hey its KOBE,He's practically "GAWD" here so no
complaints

but eh HATE AWAY

[dh144498]

Not even comparable,WHAT!?

Durant is the epitome of ref babied,Durant is MR UNTOUCHABLE

Kobe snitched on SHAQ,threw his teammates under the bus time and time again,he avg 9 FTA This Year,WADE 6 Even though WADE Had more FGA in the paint and drives,
and hey Kobe practically invented the throw up a shot"HEY HEY HEY"
that was a foul,to get the refs help
And then Kobe still does the Reggie Miller kickout,the Rip through
and even when he does foul,no call or he hits somebody their fault,foul on them

but hey its KOBE,He's practically "GAWD" here so no
complaints

but eh HATE AWAY

Durant is now half of what Wade was in the 2006 finals.

[Flash31]

Durant is now half of what Wade was in the 2006 finals.


Durant avg 20 fta against the MAVS,AND THAT was 2 years ago

He avg more fta than anybody else besides his rising friend James"Wind Blower Fouls"Harden

Wade was a relentless attacker to the basket,and had more points in the paint than any other guard,and was known as a great slasher

Durant mostly shoots Jumpshots,yet 10 fta

Durant had a 40,50 POINT GAME ON 9 FG MADE
How is that even possible

[BoutPractice]

It's called the Internet. Everything and everyone will be hated on. The more relevant they are, the more hate they will get.

[KungFuJoe]

Still true three years later.

Dat consistency.

[ripthekik]

Still true three years later.

Dat consistency.
Considering in the last 3 years, all he did was lose at the finals...

[jchu]

He's not respected by casual fans because of his antics, colluding, 2/7, etc etc not 1, not 2, not 3 blah blah....

But I do think a lot of players, coaches still respect his game. He might not be Kobe or Curry in terms of firepower, but they still have a game plan for Lebron. That says something.

Being disrespected means they don't care about LeBron being on the court. If anything, it's the other way around as it seems that the opposing teams are more focused when he's on the court.

What I do know is that they don't respect his jumpshot. Lol

[stephanieg]

After '06 and '07 Dirk's reputation fell in the toilet. That's when he was taking spirit journeys in Australia. He was called a soft jump shooter and a choker who could be shut down by guys a foot shorter than him. Somewhere in there his fiancee was arrested for fraud. It's amazing how much his reputation turned around after the title run, now people say he's better than Barkley, Malone, and KG.

He wasn't disrespected per se, but it seems like hardly anyone takes Nash's two MVPs seriously, even at the time there was a schism among NBA fans. He was always clowned for his defense, but people respected his toughness and skills at least.

I don't remember Dwight being disrespected too much until the Dwightmare saga began. After that, he arguably wasn't a superstar due to the back injury. Not compared to his peak in Orlando, anyway.

[LebronsHairline]

Lebron a manufactured superstar created by the NBA with the help of ESPN. This guy bulldozed his way into stardom with no calls from the refs.

[gasolina]

It's amazing how much his reputation turned around after the title run
That's the beauty of actually watching games that matter. His performance against OKC was one for the ages. He also tore the Heat a new one, all in their primes.

As for Lebron... two series jump out where he imposed his will (Pistons 2007 and Celtics 2012). People also like to point out his stats with the Heat but what part of that is purely because he had a super stacked team where he dominated the ball? At the end of the day these all get drowned out by the flopping and bitching and colluding.

On the other hand, last year's finals he did put up a lot of numbers but it just all played into the Warriors game plan. Kinda like how the Pistons had Shaq on single coverage the entire time.

[Disaprine]

tazb :lol

[jlip]

Wasn't there a thread a few days ago complaining about how Curry was supposedly the most disrespected superstar ever? So are we just picking whoever the current star is and labeling that person the least respected? Is that what we are doing now?

[Lebron23]

Kobe Bryant

[coin24]

Kobe Bryant


Rent free, The guys retired and was loved world wide.. Must burn you

[LebronsHairline]

Kobe Bryant

Damn is that you in the avatar? You got a worse hairline than bron bron, no wonder he's your role model.

[zizozain]

list of NBA players, GM's, coaches who openly disrespected Lebron James

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397243

[Hey Yo]

The dude just signed a billion dollar lifetime deal with Nike and you wanna talk about people disrespecting him??

:roll: :roll:

I wish I got that kind of disrespect!

[KungFuJoe]

The dude just signed a billion dollar lifetime deal with Nike and you wanna talk about people disrespecting him??

:roll: :roll:

I wish I got that kind of disrespect!

Money certainly helps...but when you're in the spotlight like a lot of superstar athletes and celebrities..."status" means more than money. A LOT more.

After a certain point...10 mil...20 mil...it's all moot after that. You're so filthy rich it just doesn't matter.

But public standing...legacy. These "celebs" cling to that. Why do you think Lebron pulled his "Decision" crap or why he makes cryptic tweets? He probably cares more about public image than any athlete in the game today in ANY sport.

You don't think Lebron is aware of how people think he's a choker...a flopper...a beta? All the memes that came out after Game 2? And you don't think it affects him on the court?

Lebron seems like an overly sensitive person, in general. I think it does affect him. Someone like Kobe...or Jordan...they don't give a shit one way or another. Kobe can miss 10 shots in a row and he still thinks the next one is money. Lebron misses a couple jumpers and he won't try another for an entire half.

[FKAri]

Stephen Curry, easily. Never seen this many old players come out of the woodwork to shit on a player and call him a fraud just because the game has changed since they were gone.

http://radio.cbssports.com/2016/05/31/jemele-hill-stephen-curry-disrespect-lebron-james-nba-finals-russell-westbrook-kevin-durant/

[Hey Yo]

Money certainly helps...but when you're in the spotlight like a lot of superstar athletes and celebrities..."status" means more than money. A LOT more.

After a certain point...10 mil...20 mil...it's all moot after that. You're so filthy rich it just doesn't matter.

But public standing...legacy. These "celebs" cling to that. Why do you think Lebron pulled his "Decision" crap or why he makes cryptic tweets? He probably cares more about public image than any athlete in the game today in ANY sport.

You don't think Lebron is aware of how people think he's a choker...a flopper...a beta? All the memes that came out after Game 2? And you don't think it affects him on the court?

Lebron seems like an overly sensitive person, in general. I think it does affect him. Someone like Kobe...or Jordan...they don't give a shit one way or another. Kobe can miss 10 shots in a row and he still thinks the next one is money. Lebron misses a couple jumpers and he won't try another for an entire half.
You don't think NIKE is aware that all NBA fans don't like all the players? If they thought that would effect his brand...then why the lifetime deal worth a billion? Why is he doing KIA commercials or any commercials for that matter?

Kobe went on live TV and apologized to his wife for raping that chick? He doesn't care what people think?

He badly wanted to win a championship "without Shaq' because he didn't care what people thought?

[KungFuJoe]

You don't think NIKE is aware that all NBA fans don't like all the players? If they thought that would effect his brand...then why the lifetime deal worth a billion? Why is he doing KIA commercials or any commercials for that matter?

Kobe went on live TV and apologized to his wife for raping that chick? He doesn't care what people think?

He badly wanted to win a championship "without Shaq' because he didn't care what people thought?

Lebron is immensely popular the way Floyd Mayweather Jr was popular. He's kinda got the "heel" thing going for him.

Nike knows that any publicity (as long as the athlete isn't doing anything completely immoral or illegal) is good publicity.

If Kobe had his way, he would have just walked away from Colorado and never looked back. He did what he did because there were PR and lawyers telling him what to do. And I'm talking about on the court. I'm not even a Kobe fan...I think he was a mindless chucker in the end...but it just goes to show that he really doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks about his on court game.

Kobe wanted to be "the man". His ego and narcissism is what drove him. Lebron doesn't want to be the man. He wants to share that with other superstars who can bail him out so the burden doesn't just fall entirely on him.

Honestly...I don't really blame the guy. It takes a very special and rare mindset to want to be the best instead of playing with the best. Lebron just isn't that guy.

[Kvnzhangyay]

You only hear about the disrespect now because it's the information age

Lebron's fans still outnumber his haters, it's just the haters are more vocal

Same for other superstars that are sometimes disrespected

[Hey Yo]

Lebron is immensely popular the way Floyd Mayweather Jr was popular. He's kinda got the "heel" thing going for him.

Nike knows that any publicity (as long as the athlete isn't doing anything completely immoral or illegal) is good publicity.

If Kobe had his way, he would have just walked away from Colorado and never looked back. He did what he did because there were PR and lawyers telling him what to do. And I'm talking about on the court. I'm not even a Kobe fan...I think he was a mindless chucker in the end...but it just goes to show that he really doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks about his on court game.

Kobe wanted to be "the man". His ego and narcissism is what drove him. Lebron doesn't want to be the man. He wants to share that with other superstars who can bail him out so the burden doesn't just fall entirely on him.

Honestly...I don't really blame the guy. It takes a very special and rare mindset to want to be the best instead of playing with the best. Lebron just isn't that guy.
So why did Kobe tell the NJ Nets not to draft him like they wanted to? He would have started right away instead of riding the pine for 2 years with LA. That's wanting to be....the man? Signing an extension with LA while Shaq was still there means he wanted to be.... the man?

Why did James sign with a laughing stock franchise like Cleveland if he didn't want to be the man? Why sign an extension with the Cavs if he didn't want to be the man? Why did he let Wade give him the reigns of the Heat if he didn't want to be the man?

[Wally450]

Considering in the last 3 years, all he did was lose at the finals...

And the two years before that while he was winning championships, you were nowhere to be found.

[Stringer Bell]

Remember who you're talking to. Us Knicks fan would have already crucified him for not winning it all as he didn't do in his first year with the Heat.


Lmao at Knicks fans/Melo stans talking shit. Your pathetic franchise and "superstar" have literally no room to talk.

:oldlol: :oldlol: at the notion of Knicks fans hating Lebron if it took him 2 years to win a title if he signed with the Knicks. He would be forgiven for 2011 and worshipped forever if he got them one ring, let alone two.

Like the Knicks have this high standard of excellence. They ain't won a title since George Foreman was the heavyweight champion....the first time.

They do however have all their imaginary "if Michael Jordan was never born" championships. :roll:

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