The really stupid things about the Roy Hibbert comments...

[niko]

Was that he felt the need (or obligation) to call (tweet, whatever) Jason Collins to apologize. OMG, i made a possibly homophobic remark. Let me call the gay guy (who is not on my team, not even on a team, not even responding to the situation in any way nor asking about it) to make sure we are ok.

I really hope Jason Collins response was "dude i forgive you. no homo."

[Purch]

Reminds me of the south park episode, where Randy goes on wheel of fourtune and says the N-word. To make it right he ends up apologizing to Jesse Jackson like he's the king of black people . :oldlol:

[Goldrush25]

Yep. Showing a complete lack of awareness.

"Lemme contact the gay people's liason to smooth things over.":oldlol:

[NumberSix]

Was that he felt the need (or obligation) to call (tweet, whatever) Jason Collins to apologize. OMG, i made a possibly homophobic remark. Let me call the gay guy (who is not on my team, not even on a team, not even responding to the situation in any way nor asking about it) to make sure we are ok.

I really hope Jason Collins response was "dude i forgive you. no homo."
It'd be even finnier if Collins said "no straight".

[westsideozzie]

FUnk of out of here. He used urban colloquialism and the pansy media blew this out of proportion. Thought police can go to hell.

[Brokenbeat]

I cringed at that too. :facepalm

[niko]

FUnk of out of here. He used urban colloquialism and the pansy media blew this out of proportion. Thought police can go to hell.
He makes $12M a year and one of the few rules is "don't say stupid shit during press conferences". I'm finding it hard to feel upset on his behalf.

[OldSkoolball#52]

He makes $12M a year and one of the few rules is "don't say stupid shit during press conferences". I'm finding it hard to feel upset on his behalf.


It wasnt stupid. It was funny and harmless.

Aint Hibberts fault even straight guys act like they have c0cks up their ass these days.

[Clifton]

Yep. Showing a complete lack of awareness.

"Lemme contact the gay people's liason to smooth things over."
That's how the world is, though.

[edrick]

It wasnt stupid. It was funny and harmless.

Aint Hibberts fault even straight guys act like they have c0cks up their ass these days.

It was funny to whom, exactly? People who have no issues with that kind of talk, because there are many people who don't find what he said acceptable. More about the mother****er comment, than the no homo comment.

[Rose'sACL]

It wasnt stupid. It was funny and harmless.

Aint Hibberts fault even straight guys act like they have c0cks up their ass these days.
Should coaches/media members call players "mother****ers" publicly when players fail to do their job like hibbert thinks that media wasn't doing their job?
Hibbert hasn't played well for a guy with such physical gifts for majority of his career. Should every media member who has watched him play call him a mother****er in their article for wasting their time?

[Twiens]

Roy's hilarious, stop being *******

[outbreak]

Do we actually know what he contacted Collins about? All he said was he wanted to discuss something?

[niko]

It wasnt stupid. It was funny and harmless.

Aint Hibberts fault even straight guys act like they have c0cks up their ass these days.
Give back the $12M, work in Burger King and you can say "no homo" all day. Where he works he CANNOT. It's not a judgment call, the NBA very clearly lays out to players what they expect them to do in their media time.

Note: He also called everyone "mother****ers", i don't are how obtuse you intend to be, you can't call people "mother****ers" for no reason.

[niko]

Do we actually know what he contacted Collins about? All he said was he wanted to discuss something?
He made a "gay slur" (for lack of a better term), apologized and while apologizing said he made sure to call Jason Collins. What do you think it was related to?

[DropStep]

Most likely Hibbert's personal team come up with the idea. In this day and age athletes have PR team to help keep their brand clean. They most likely came up with this thinking it would "soften the blow". What athletes dont realize is the lawyers and people helping them protect their brand, can come up with ideas that are sociopath like. Completely unrelatable to the thought process of a normal human being.

Expect him and Jason Collins to suddenly be best friends during the off season.

[MavsSuperFan]

Was that he felt the need (or obligation) to call (tweet, whatever) Jason Collins to apologize. OMG, i made a possibly homophobic remark. Let me call the gay guy (who is not on my team, not even on a team, not even responding to the situation in any way nor asking about it) to make sure we are ok.

I really hope Jason Collins response was "dude i forgive you. no homo."

Actually politically this is smart of Hibbert. It makes it look like he is genuine about his remorse and that he wants the approval of a person in the group his comments supposedly offended. Appearances in America have always been more important than reality.

This will help make him more acceptable to large corporations so that he can make more money with endorsements. Credit to Hibbert's PR team, they earned their paycheck this week.

[MavsSuperFan]

FUnk of out of here. He used urban colloquialism and the pansy media blew this out of proportion. Thought police can go to hell.

And he was a dumbass in that he could not see this coming. The PC ness of America is not exactly new. Its been here for at least 20 years now.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Calling Collins could have been pure PR but it's also possible that Hibbert knew him as their careers have gone on simultaneously for a few years now. If he felt genuine remorse he could have felt the need to contact one of the few players he knew was gay.

[MavsSuperFan]

Give back the $12M, work in Burger King and you can say "no homo" all day. Where he works he CANNOT. It's not a judgment call, the NBA very clearly lays out to players what they expect them to do in their media time.

Note: He also called everyone "mother****ers", i don't are how obtuse you intend to be, you can't call people "mother****ers" for no reason.

Actually he can. If I had gone out on national TV and said what Hibbert said, my company would have fired me immediately. Hibbert was fined 0.6% of his annual salary.

[Rik Smits' Hair]

hibbert hsould apolgize to chris bosh. he the real victim here.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[jstern]

Thinking about it, maybe if he said "No Homosexual" it would have been fine. Perhaps people have a problem with the word homo.

[sosolid4u09]

welcome to David Sterns nba

[jimmy77x]

Thinking about it, maybe if he said "No Homosexual" it would have been fine. Perhaps people have a problem with the word homo.

Or he could have said "Pause". No way he would get fined for that. Dwight has done it.

[stanlove1111]

Actually he can. If I had gone out on national TV and said what Hibbert said, my company would have fired me immediately. Hibbert was fined 0.6% of his annual salary.


Exactly.. When subjects like this come up I don't have a lot of patients with stupid people. I can see there are a ton of stupid people commenting on this subject..

He used a gay slur ( only an idiot would deny this ) and of course he was going to be punished for it. If the NBA didn't punished him then it would look like they condone it and then where do you draw the line..

And yes if someone at Mcdonalds or BK used that term infront of customers and the costomers or even co workers complained they would be in big trouble and maybe without a job..

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

[HarryCallahan]

Exactly.. When subjects like this come up I don't have a lot of patients with stupid people. I can see there are a ton of stupid people commenting on this subject..

He used a gay slur ( only an idiot would deny this ) and of course he was going to be punished for it. If the NBA didn't punished him then it would look like they condone it and then where do you draw the line..

And yes if someone at Mcdonalds or BK used that term infront of customers and the costomers or even co workers complained they would be in big trouble and maybe without a job..

Not sure why this is hard to understand.

"Homo" is not a gay slur, it is an abbreviation for the term "Homosexual," only an idiot would deny this.

[stanlove1111]

"Homo" is not a gay slur, it is an abbreviation for the term "Homosexual," only an idiot would deny this.

Your an idiot..You better educate yourself..because a lot of people go around on the internet saying No homo doesn't change the fact that its been used as a gay slur for decades..


How old are you?

[Goldrush25]

Actually politically this is smart of Hibbert. It makes it look like he is genuine about his remorse and that he wants the approval of a person in the group his comments supposedly offended. Appearances in America have always been more important than reality.

This will help make him more acceptable to large corporations so that he can make more money with endorsements. Credit to Hibbert's PR team, they earned their paycheck this week.

It wasn't smart. It was transparent.

"Oh I may have offended the gay community. Let me find the one gay NBA player to show I'm cool with his lifestyle."

[HarryCallahan]

Your an idiot..You better educate yourself..because a lot of people go around on the internet saying No homo doesn't change the fact that its been used as a gay slur for decades..


How old are you?

:facepalm

"Homo" is the abbreviated term for "Homosexual." It is NOT a gay slur. Stop getting so offended by everything, not everything belongs on the "banned words list" morons like you believe should exist.

Grow up and being such a little b*tch, *******.

[stanlove1111]

:facepalm

"Homo" is the abbreviated term for "Homosexual." It is NOT a gay slur. Stop getting so offended by everything, not everything belongs on the "banned words list" morons like you believe should exist.

Grow up and being such a little b*tch, *******.


Ok one more time idiot..Its the history of how the word is used..IF you are over 15 you know that its been used a gay slur for decades.

Jap is short for Japenese..Japenese is not a slur..Jap is because of the history..

Get it now moron...

[clutchinho]

Most likely Hibbert's personal team come up with the idea. In this day and age athletes have PR team to help keep their brand clean. They most likely came up with this thinking it would "soften the blow". What athletes dont realize is the lawyers and people helping them protect their brand, can come up with ideas that are sociopath like. Completely unrelatable to the thought process of a normal human being.

Expect him and Jason Collins to suddenly be best friends during the off season.

:lol :lol :lol


Jason Collins will teach him some post defense, at no charge

[socomberetta]

Homo can be used as an abbreviation for homosexual but its often used as a slur against gays, ie "get the **** out of here homo", or "homos will burn in hell" etc.

Im not sure if "no homo" can be categorized as a slur against gays though. At worst I think its kind of a crude way of saying, "but not in a gay way".

[HarryCallahan]

Ok one more time idiot..Its the history of how the word is used..IF you are over 15 you know that its been used a gay slur for decades.

Jap is short for Japenese..Japenese is not a slur..Jap is because of the history..

Get it now moron...

:roll:

socomberetta get's it. "Homo" is like "Jew". If I say "John is a homo/jew" that's fine, but if I were to say "F**k John, he's a homo/jew": that wouldn't be.

It's called context ph@ggot, and if YOU were over 15 you might understand it you condescending ****.

[305Baller]

Stan Van Gundy's lover revealed.

[stanlove1111]

:roll:

socomberetta get's it. "Homo" is like "Jew". If I say "John is a homo/jew" that's fine, but if I were to say "F**k John, he's a homo/jew": that wouldn't be.

It's called context ph@ggot, and if YOU were over 15 you might understand it you condescending ****.

Nope wrong..
If Hibbert was to say " I am not Japenese but I love japenese food " nobody would think anything of it..

If Hibbert was to say " I am not a Jap, but I love Jap food " he would be in trouble..Its the history of the word..Context is not the issue.

I myself don't think its a big deal..Hibbert just needed to explain that he didn't know the word has been used as an anti Gay slur ( which I am sure is the case ) and he is sorry he said it..End of story..IF anyone is still offended after that screw them..But when you use the word HOMO you are going to offend people...Its a slur..

[GrapeApe]

While the word "homo" may technically be short for homosexual, it is absolutely a derogatory term. I'm not sure how this can even be argued. I'm in no way a PC advocate type, but a proffessional athlete has to be more careful with the words they choose than the average joe. He should have known better.

[HarryCallahan]

Nope wrong..
If Hibbert was to say " I am not Japenese but I love japenese food " nobody would think anything of it..

If Hibbert was to say " I am not a Jap, but I love Jap food " he would be in trouble..Its the history of the word..Context is not the issue.

I myself don't think its a big deal..Hibbert just needed to explain that he didn't know the word has been used as an anti Gay slur ( which I am sure is the case ) and he is sorry he said it..End of story..IF anyone is still offended after that screw them..But when you use the word HOMO you are going to offend people...Its a slur..

I agree 100% that it will offend people, but that alone doesn't make it a slur. Context is key, and in this context the term "homo" was not used in a derogatory manner and therefore should not be perceived as a slur. Besides, Hibbert obviously didn't mean anything by it.

[stanlove1111]

While the word "homo" may technically be short for homosexual, it is absolutely a derogatory term. I'm not sure how this can even be argued. I'm in no way a PC advocate type, but a proffessional athlete has to be more careful with the words they choose than the average joe. He should have known better.
Thank you. It's actually annoying and funny at the same time listening to people try to deny its not a derogatory term. Wtf..

I don't think he knew better that's the point..listen to numerous posters on this site actually think its not a slur..

[stanlove1111]

I agree 100% that it will offend people, but that alone doesn't make it a slur. Context is key, and in this context the term "homo" was not used in a derogatory manner and therefore should not be perceived as a slur. Besides, Hibbert obviously didn't mean anything by it.
You can say its about context til you are blue in the face and its still wrong.. Like jap it's all about the history of the word and how it has been used for decades.

[HarryCallahan]

You can say its about context til you are blue in the face and its still wrong.. Like jap it's all about the history of the word and how it has been used for decades.

Well in that case, it should be acceptable for me to call black people "Negro" because MLK did it. Scuse me while I run out into the streets and call all black people "Negroes". While i'm at it i'll call every poor person a "f@ggot" because that's where the term originated from, I won't call gays f@ggot unless they're poor, then I can call them f@ggot all I want.


pc police logicfail. :applause:

[stanlove1111]

Well in that case, it should be acceptable for me to call black people "Negro" because MLK did it. Scuse me while I run out into the streets and call all black people "Negroes". While i'm at it i'll call every poor person a "f@ggot" because that's where the term originated from, I won't call gays f@ggot unless they're poor, then I can call them f@ggot all I want.


pc police logicfail. :applause:

Idiot...

[HarryCallahan]

Idiot...

Great retort, I can see you put a lot of thought and consideration into that post.

...fking MORON...

[360crazy]

As far as the "mutha****as" comment...it's just a word. A lot of ppl have been conditioned to be sensitive about it. It has no objectivity as a profane word..no word does...it's all poppycock. Average reasoning skills would lead you to that conclusion.

As for the no homo comment....I dnt know the general consensus about how the gay community feels about that. I do know, no homo= I'm not homo....so the backlash he's receiving is completely illogical.

[stanlove1111]

Great retort, I can see you put a lot of thought and consideration into that post.

...fking MORON...

What else do you want me to say to someone who doesn't even kno0w that Homo is a gay slur..Idiot is what comes to mind.Its laughable..

[HarryCallahan]

What else do you want me to say to someone who doesn't even kno0w that Homo is a gay slur..Idiot is what comes to mind.Its laughable..

The FACT is that "Homo" is not a gay slur. Just because you think it is doesn't make it so, you have not produced any evidence, nor any logic that would suggest that it is. I would say that the person whose irrational belief defies all logic would be considered an "idiot."


fakkit

[Dunaprenti]

What else do you want me to say to someone who doesn't even kno0w that Homo is a gay slur..Idiot is what comes to mind.Its laughable..
So basically if he said "no homosexual", it would've been ok since only "homo" is perceived as derogatory term?
I'm not saying you're wrong, it just sounds ridiculous to me and to the other poster. Also you are highlighting the word homo, but "no homo" is an idiom and as such it's not exactly a slur.
He was rightly fined, because of the children and all that bullshit.

[niko]

As far as the "mutha****as" comment...it's just a word. A lot of ppl have been conditioned to be sensitive about it. It has no objectivity as a profane word..no word does...it's all poppycock. Average reasoning skills would lead you to that conclusion.

As for the no homo comment....I dnt know the general consensus about how the gay community feels about that. I do know, no homo= I'm not homo....so the backlash he's receiving is completely illogical.

You're either being deliberately obtuse or you're just stupid.

[irriducibili]

Are black people really offended by the word ni99a? I know only one black guy and he has no problem when i say to him "whats up ma ni99a"

[niko]

Are black people really offended by the word ni99a? I know only one black guy and he has no problem when i say to him "whats up ma ni99a"
Test it. Go up to random black people and call then ***** and see what happens.

[get these NETS]

Hibbert just messed up any future accolades.


he picked the wrong climate and wrong year to make those comments publicly




is Indiana in some kind of time warp?


who says no homo? and the haircuts on that team?

it's like the part of Indiana, where they live is 5 years behind the rest of the country

[stanlove1111]

The FACT is that "Homo" is not a gay slur. Just because you think it is doesn't make it so, you have not produced any evidence, nor any logic that would suggest that it is. I would say that the person whose irrational belief defies all logic would be considered an "idiot."


fakkit


Like I said you are an idiot..Sometimes there is no need to argue with stupid views like this.

And like I told someone else write to some gay groups and ask them if they consider the word HOMO a slur..I know what their answer will be and I am sure so do you.I know you wouldn't take the time to do that or study the history of the word. You are in FACT an idiot and wrong..

You can say its not all you want, the fallout from the word proves otherwise..

[MavsSuperFan]

The FACT is that "Homo" is not a gay slur. Just because you think it is doesn't make it so, you have not produced any evidence, nor any logic that would suggest that it is. I would say that the person whose irrational belief defies all logic would be considered an "idiot."


fakkit

Good luck getting a job in corporate America in 2013 saying homo frequently.

[tomtucker]

Do we actually know what he contacted Collins about? All he said was he wanted to discuss something?

[B]he stretched out Jason

[tpols]

Good luck getting a job in corporate America in 2013 saying homo frequently.
Hibbert isnt in corporate america. Hes a basketball player, and can get away with 100x what we can. Plenty of thugs in the NBA have done way, way worse and resumed careers.

[MavsSuperFan]

I agree 100% that it will offend people, but that alone doesn't make it a slur. Context is key, and in this context the term "homo" was not used in a derogatory manner and therefore should not be perceived as a slur. Besides, Hibbert obviously didn't mean anything by it.

I don't think Hibbert meant anything by it, but lots of people are fired every day for workplace "insensitivity". You are naive if you don't think a normal guy wouldn't lose his job if he went on a national press conference representing his employer and said what Hibbert said.

[ItsMillerTime]

is Indiana in some kind of time warp?


who says no homo? and the haircuts on that team?

it's like the part of Indiana, where they live is 5 years behind the rest of the country

We're resorting to haircuts now?

:biggums:

[NumberSix]

Hebrew = NOT a slur
Hebe = a slur

Japanese = NOT a slur
Jap = a slur

Homosexual = NOT a slur
Homo = a slur


Not rocket science

[Dictator]

Yall fail to realize that was part of the joke.

[NumberSix]

Hibbert just messed up any future accolades.


he picked the wrong climate and wrong year to make those comments publicly




is Indiana in some kind of time warp?


who says no homo? and the haircuts on that team?

it's like the part of Indiana, where they live is 5 years behind the rest of the country
Niqqas in Indiana just started listening to Dipset and G-Unit.

[ripthekik]

Do we actually know what he contacted Collins about? All he said was he wanted to discuss something?
Actually he just wanted to ask Collins for recommendation on good sushi places.

[Crown&Coke]

I have a huge issue with what Hibbert said.

After the game 4 win, he was all like "we aint goin nowhere" then the very next sentence he's all "we going to south beach"

:wtf:

he's lying to everyone. Fvck him