What is Andre Drummond's ceiling as a NBA player?

[PleezeBelieve]

I'm confused as to why this guy gets so much love. I know his stats in limited minutes are nice but watching him play, I don't see the type of impact I would think based on how people give this guy love.

He appears to be Deandre Jordan with better touch around the rim.

That's what I see.

He's not impressively explosive with the ball when put in position to initiate offense. He has no post moves. He's a poor free throw shooter.

Outside catching oops and being a big body on defense, he doesn't have elite big man skills.

Am I wrong?

[bdreason]

20/12/3 on 50% and an elite rim protector.

[dbk123]

I dont trust your judgement when it comes to player evaluations...


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216885

[Shade8780]

I dont trust your judgement when it comes to player evaluations...


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216885
Hey, he's pretty good...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129483

[Shade8780]

His ceiling is what Greg Oden was suppose to be, but he probably won't turn out that good.

[dbk123]

Hey, he's pretty good...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129483
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85ja8WTBr1rqfhi2o1_400.gif


PleezeBelieve :applause: :bowdown:

[PleezeBelieve]

20/12/3 on 50% and an elite rim protector.
:roll: @ 20/12

[PleezeBelieve]

Hey, he's pretty good...

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129483
Ive got so many of these during my time here that it's eerie.

I even got Kyrie right

[andremiller07]

20/12/3 on 50% and an elite rim protector.
Not sure about the 20ppg but everything else seems fairly accurate, he should be the premier shot blocker/rebounder in the NBA in a couple years.

[PleezeBelieve]

His ceiling is what Greg Oden was suppose to be, but he probably won't turn out that good.
Oden talent >>>>> Drummond talent

Are you crazy? :oldlol:

[Shade8780]

Oden talent >>>>> Drummond talent

Are you crazy? :oldlol:
"but he probably won't turn out that good."

[PleezeBelieve]

Not sure about the 20ppg but everything else seems fairly accurate, he should be the premier shot blocker/rebounder in the NBA in a couple years.
Noel as a rim protector >>> Drummond as a rim protector

[PleezeBelieve]

"but he probably won't turn out that good."
My bad

[DwadeOverLebron]

I dont trust your judgement when it comes to player evaluations...


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216885

LOL ^ how is pleasebelieve not banned? I read his Irving and curry posts :roll:
:roll: :roll:

I ain't gonna lie I was shocked at how Irving turned out, I'm a big fan now and hope he pulls a Lebron and gets out of Cleveland after I saw Dan Gilbert sitten right next MGK at the draft selections.. I don't blame Lebron for leaving.

Sorry got side tracked but please believe stick to rapping homie.. Actually not really. You just silly.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

a better DeAndre Jordan sounds a bout right.

[bdreason]

If Dwight Howard can average 20ppg, so can Andre Drummond. Andre already has a better touch around the hoop, and is a much more coordinated offensive player in general. I'm not saying he will average 20ppg in a season, but the question was, what is his ceiling.

[taabhimself]

shaq + kareem

go pistons!!!!!

[Levity]

In 20 raw minutes a game, he almost average a low end double double with 2 blocks a game. His endurance will increase this summer, and as he learns to play without fouling, he could be a perennial 15+/11+/2+ player.

[Clifton]

If you had to pick one, would you take Hibbert or Drummond?

[ralph_i_el]

He will never put up 20 a game.

15/10 with good D. Needs to shoot free throws better or he's going to be toast

[kobebeangoat]

About OP's ceiling as a f aggot. So pretty damn high

[leopoldstotch]

if Detroit can keep Drummond and Monroe for building, somehow keep Calderon and somehow get either Knight or Stuckey to shoot a bit better grouped with a quality coach, Detroit can go places.

[leopoldstotch]

bump.

another 20/20 game for Drummond. Guy needs to work on his free throws, and he's set. This guy is a monster in the paint.

[JohnnySic]

Steal of the 2012 draft. True then, true now.

[ISHGoat]

I dont watch pistons games, so can someone knowledgable tell me why his fg% dropped from .623 in his 2nd year to .503 now? Its not like hes getting more ORB tip in misses, because that went from 5.4 to 5.3. Seems his FT% has regressed too.

[Meticode]

I dont watch pistons games, so can someone knowledgable tell me why his fg% dropped from .623 in his 2nd year to .503 now? Its not like hes getting more ORB tip in misses, because that went from 5.4 to 5.3. Seems his FT% has regressed too.
Not sure, he has really bad shooting games. I think he recently shot 4-16 from the field.

[Rake2204]

I dont watch pistons games, so can someone knowledgable tell me why his fg% dropped from .623 in his 2nd year to .503 now? Its not like hes getting more ORB tip in misses, because that went from 5.4 to 5.3. Seems his FT% has regressed too.Stan Van Gundy made a concerted effort to get Drummond looks with his back to the basket this year. As it so happens, he's absolutely wretched in such a position (which is why Van Gundy had been working to develop Drummond in this regard).

After performing terribly in the post early, Drummond fell into a little bit of a mental slump and began forcing and missing chippies in the first 25 games or so, on top of the poor post play. Kind of seemed like a post-Olympic hangover type of thing, like he thought he was going to walk in and dominate.

Since then, Van Gundy's dialed back the post looks a little (though Drummond has shown slight improvement) and he's mostly reverted back to cleaning up garbage and catching alley-oops.

Even then, he still have a rare sub-.500 game every now and again, usually related to missed tips in some regard. Like last night he was 11-25 and had 17 offensive rebounds. I can't recall really well, but it's likely a handful of misses were his own tip-in attempts.

[imdaman99]

Him vs Demarcus Jordan, who wins? I'd like to think Drummond does because he has some idea on offense.

[Rake2204]

Not sure, he has really bad shooting games. I think he recently shot 4-16 from the field.Yep, against Houston; serves as a prime example. Taking a quick look at the play-by-play, I unofficially counted nine Drummond offensive rebounds that resulted in a missed field goal immediately thereafter.

The majority, again, are likely tip attempts that he's almost vollying at the rim. The others are his free passes - that is, the ones where he works on securing an offensive rebound and thus has been told he can or should go back up with it wherever he's at, often producing some awkward jump hook attempts from seven feet away.

The play-by-play for reference: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/201503060HOU.html

[Detroit]

Him vs Demarcus Jordan, who wins? I'd like to think Drummond does because he has some idea on offense.

If I were SVG and I was offered Cousins for Drummond, I would do it immediately without thinking twice about it.

[navy]

If Dwight Howard can average 20ppg, so can Andre Drummond. Andre already has a better touch around the hoop, and is a much more coordinated offensive player in general. I'm not saying he will average 20ppg in a season, but the question was, what is his ceiling.
Dwight Howard was a monster when he averaged 20ppg. Would destroy Drummond.

[3peated]

hasnt he hit it?

[imdaman99]

If I were SVG and I was offered Cousins for Drummond, I would do it immediately without thinking twice about it.
OOOOPS I meant Deandre Jordan :oldlol:

No question I would take DMC over Drummond. DMC could rival Anthony Davis for the next 10 years as the best big man in the league.

[magnax1]

He has way more potential than Deandre. He has best center in the league potenetial. I doubt hell ever reach it, but hes the most physically gifted center in the league. Excluding Cousins possibly.

[swagga]

He has way more potential than Deandre. He has best center in the league potenetial. I doubt hell ever reach it, but hes the most physically gifted center in the league. Excluding Cousins possibly.

cousins is nowhere near drummond from a physical standpoint. Drummond is in that young dwight howard tier. cousins is obviously much more skilled..

[Smoke117]

Dwight Howard was a monster when he averaged 20ppg. Would destroy Drummond.

Drummond will never get to 20ppg if he doesn't improve his ft shooting. He doesn't like to get fouled either because of it. Howard averaged 20.7ppg on 11.9 shots because you were always forced to foul him in the paint. He averaged 10.9 fta's that season. Drummond is averaging 11.4 shots this season...but only 4.2fta's. Putting him in some tier with even a young Howard is ridiculous. That was Howards 4th season and this is Drummonds 3rd. (plus the year in college)

Drummond hasn't come close to progressing at the rate Howard did.

[Ariza4three]

He will never get to 20ppg if he doesn't improve his ft shooting. He doesn't like to get fouled either because of it. Howard averaged 20.7ppg on 11.9 shots because you were always forced to foul him in the paint. He averaged 10.9 fta's that season. Drummond is averaging 11.4 shots this season...but only 4.2fta's. Putting him in some tier with even a young Howard is ridiculous. That was Howards 4th season and this is Drummonds 3rd. (plus the year in college)

Drummond hasn't come close to progressing at the rate Howard did.
Not to mention Howard was doubled every time he got the ball.

[oarabbus]

His ceiling is what Greg Oden was suppose to be, but he probably won't turn out that good.

His ceiling is nowhere near that high