View Full Version : LeBron James 33.7 career PPG in Game 7s...Shuts down Paul George
TonyMontana
06-03-2013, 11:30 PM
LeBron James further proves he is one of the biggest Game 7 performers all-time. 33.7 PPG on good percentages. And that doesn't even bring into account his all nba defense. Shutting down All NBA player Paul George(7 points, 2-9 shooting). Similar to how he shut down Rose at the end of all those Bulls-Heat games in 2011.
Greg Oden 50
06-03-2013, 11:31 PM
LeBron James further proves he is one of the biggest Game 7 performers all-time. 33.7 PPG on good percentages. And that doesn't even bring into account his all nba defense. Shutting down All NBA player Paul George(7 points, 2-9 shooting). Similar to how he shut down Rose at the end of all those Bulls-Heat games in 2011.
GO TO SLEEP,YOUNG KID :facepalm
LikeABosh
06-03-2013, 11:31 PM
His defense was masterful. Put George in a vice grip
Magic 32
06-03-2013, 11:32 PM
LeBron James further proves he is one of the biggest Game 7 performers all-time. 33.7 PPG on good percentages. And that doesn't even bring into account his all nba defense. Shutting down All NBA player Paul George(7 points, 2-9 shooting). Similar to how he shut down Rose at the end of all those Bulls-Heat games in 2011.
Stat-padded the hell out of that game.
Look at Kobe vs Rockets in 09 for a classy blowout performance.
tmacattack33
06-03-2013, 11:34 PM
George could hardly even get the freakin ball with the NBA version of Deion Sanders denying him the ball.
And when he did, and tried to go at Lebron one on one, he got nowwhere. I remember an airball and one play where George dribbled into a dead end (Lebron) and had nothing to do but pump fake 5 times :oldlol:
Also, Lebron played defense on D West in the second quarter and did good...and that allowed Miami to have their three point shooters in the game.
Lebron23
06-03-2013, 11:37 PM
Mr. Game 7.
chosen_one6
06-03-2013, 11:37 PM
Stat-padded the hell out of that game.
Look at Kobe vs Rockets in 09 for a classy blowout performance.
Or shall we look at the Lakers against the Mavs in 2011 for a classy blowout performance? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Magic 32
06-03-2013, 11:38 PM
Or shall we look at the Lakers against the Mavs in 2011 for a classy blowout performance? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Game 7?
:facepalm
chosen_one6
06-03-2013, 11:40 PM
Game 7?
:facepalm
Game 4?
http://i.min.us/invtXc.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
lebeast666
06-03-2013, 11:42 PM
Stat-padded the hell out of that game.
Look at Kobe vs Rockets in 09 for a classy blowout performance.
Come on son, no need to bring up Kobe . Its LeBrons time now
http://www.imgur.com/iJxyBXc.png
TonyMontana
06-03-2013, 11:47 PM
Stat-padded the hell out of that game.
Look at Kobe vs Rockets in 09 for a classy blowout performance.
Oh so you want to bring up Kobe Bryant in a Game 7 thread?
Kobes Career Game 7s
00 vs POR: 25 points(47.4% shooting)
02 vs SAC: 30 points(38.5% shooting)
06 vs PHO: 24 points(50% shooting)
09 vs HOU: 14 points(33.3% shooting)
10 vs BOS: 23 points(25.0% shooting)
12 vs DEN: 17 points(43.8% shooting)
Career Game 7s Averages: 22.2 PPG 38.9% shooting
LeBron Career Game 7s
06 vs DET: 27 points(45.8% shooting)
08 vs BOS: 45 points(48.5% shooting)
12 vs BOS: 31 points(42.9% shooting)
13 vs IND: 32 points(47.0% shooting)
Career Game 7 Averages: 33.7 PPG 44.0% shooting
And I'm only looking at scoring(the only thing Kobe does!!!!). Not even bringing in LeBrons superior defense, rebounding,playmaking ability. LOL
Dont even try to compare that lesser player rapist to the King.
PrettyCool
06-03-2013, 11:51 PM
Tmac is a point forward RG.
Shuts down 6'3 Derrick Rose, and now 6'9 Paul George. Next up (if needed) 6'2 Tony Parker.
Most versatile player ever!:rockon:
Magic 32
06-03-2013, 11:56 PM
09 vs HOU: 14 points(33.3% shooting)
13 vs IND: 32 points(47.0% shooting)
Watch both games and enjoy the diffrence between an classy old school player and a statspadding whore.
Can't imagine a better example really. Thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w86hQpjAgSw
chazzy
06-03-2013, 11:57 PM
Shuts down 6'3 Derrick Rose, and now 6'9 Paul George. Next up (if needed) 6'2 Tony Parker.
Most versatile player ever!:rockon:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6068062&postcount=5
KingBeasley08
06-03-2013, 11:59 PM
Watch both games and enjoy the diffrence between an classy old school player and a statspadding whore.
Can't imagine a better example really. Thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w86hQpjAgSw
Yeah, one was the main reason his team won and the other was carried :lol
diamenz
06-04-2013, 12:00 AM
we get it, tony - you like lebron a real lot.
AintNoSunshine
06-04-2013, 12:05 AM
Oh so you want to bring up Kobe Bryant in a Game 7 thread?
Kobes Career Game 7s
00 vs POR: 25 points(47.4% shooting)
02 vs SAC: 30 points(38.5% shooting)
06 vs PHO: 24 points(50% shooting)
09 vs HOU: 14 points(33.3% shooting)
10 vs BOS: 23 points(25.0% shooting)
12 vs DEN: 17 points(43.8% shooting)
Career Game 7s Averages: 22.2 PPG 38.9% shooting
LeBron Career Game 7s
06 vs DET: 27 points(45.8% shooting)
08 vs BOS: 45 points(48.5% shooting)
12 vs BOS: 31 points(42.9% shooting)
13 vs IND: 32 points(47.0% shooting)
Career Game 7 Averages: 33.7 PPG 44.0% shooting
And I'm only looking at scoring(the only thing Kobe does!!!!). Not even bringing in LeBrons superior defense, rebounding,playmaking ability. LOL
Dont even try to compare that lesser player rapist to the King.
:eek: :eek: :eek: Kobe the biggest choker ever?!?! Lebron:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Magic 32
06-04-2013, 12:09 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek: Kobe the biggest choker ever?!?! Lebron:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Some close out games:
4-30-98 - 22/4/3 on 56% shooting
5-14-00 - 23/5/2 on 50% shooting
6-02-00 - 33/6/4/3 on 50% shooting
6-04-00 - 25/11/7/4 on 47% shooting
5-13-01 - 48/16/3 on 52% shooting
5-27-01 - 24/11 on 53% shooting
4-28-02 - 25/4/7/2 on 47% shooting
5-14-02 - 26/8/5 on 50% shooting
6-12-02 - 25/6/8/2 on 44% shooting
5-01-03 - 31/8 on 54% shooting
4-28-04 - 31/10/6/3 on 57% shooting
5-15-04 - 26/7/7 on 50% shooting
5-02-06 - 29/7/5 on 59% shooting
5-04-06 - 50/8/5/3 on 57% shooting
5-06-06 - 24pts on 50% shooting
4-28-08 - 31/7/6/3/2 on 50% shooting
5-16-08 - 34/8/6 on 47% shooting
5-29-08 - 39pts on 53% shooting
4-27-09 - 31/4/4 on 47% shooting
5-29-09 - 35/6/10 on 60% shooting
6-14-09 - 30/6/5/4 on 43% shooting
4-30-10 - 32/7/3 on 48% shooting
5-10-10 - 32pts on 48% shooting
5-29-10 - 37/6 on 48% shooting
TonyMontana
06-04-2013, 12:11 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek: Kobe the biggest choker ever?!?! Lebron:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
22 PPG on 38% shooting in career Game 7s and they claim this guy is a clutch god. :oldlol:
I bet his stats in elimination games is shitty too. I remember him giving up in the first half vs the Mavs the other year. :oldlol:
Jameerthefear
06-04-2013, 12:12 AM
DO Heat "fans" watch the games? It was a collective TEAM defense with a lot of physical traps. Lebron gets credit for everything with you morons.
AintNoSunshine
06-04-2013, 12:27 AM
Some close out games:
4-30-98 - 22/4/3 on 56% shooting
5-14-00 - 23/5/2 on 50% shooting
6-02-00 - 33/6/4/3 on 50% shooting
6-04-00 - 25/11/7/4 on 47% shooting
5-13-01 - 48/16/3 on 52% shooting
5-27-01 - 24/11 on 53% shooting
4-28-02 - 25/4/7/2 on 47% shooting
5-14-02 - 26/8/5 on 50% shooting
6-12-02 - 25/6/8/2 on 44% shooting
5-01-03 - 31/8 on 54% shooting
4-28-04 - 31/10/6/3 on 57% shooting
5-15-04 - 26/7/7 on 50% shooting
5-02-06 - 29/7/5 on 59% shooting
5-04-06 - 50/8/5/3 on 57% shooting
5-06-06 - 24pts on 50% shooting
4-28-08 - 31/7/6/3/2 on 50% shooting
5-16-08 - 34/8/6 on 47% shooting
5-29-08 - 39pts on 53% shooting
4-27-09 - 31/4/4 on 47% shooting
5-29-09 - 35/6/10 on 60% shooting
6-14-09 - 30/6/5/4 on 43% shooting
4-30-10 - 32/7/3 on 48% shooting
5-10-10 - 32pts on 48% shooting
5-29-10 - 37/6 on 48% shooting
I know you're not the brightest guy, but OP's thread is discussing game 7's where your back is against the wall, your season's on the line. Not random "closeout" games, game 4 is a close out game when your team's up 3-0 :facepalm
And how is a 23-5-2 game great by any stretch of imagination? Well I guess not everyone's standard is as high as lebron's, that a poor game to the King
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-04-2013, 12:29 AM
22 PPG on 38% shooting in career Game 7s and they claim this guy is a clutch god. :oldlol:
I bet his stats in elimination games is shitty too. I remember him giving up in the first half vs the Mavs the other year. :oldlol:
:eek:
I pointed this out in the GT and got jumped for it. No matter what happens in the Finals, Lebron is just a flat-out BETTER player. Maybe more clutch too (crazy right? :oldlol:)
Magic 32
06-04-2013, 12:30 AM
I know you're not the brightest guy, but OP's thread is discussing game 7's where your back is against the wall, your season's on the line. Not random "closeout" games, game 4 is a close out game when your team's up 3-0 :facepalm
And how is a 23-5-2 game great by any stretch of imagination? Well I guess not everyone's standard is as high as lebron's, that a poor game to the King
A respose to a comment in this thread.
And mind your own f*cking business.
jcsrplumply
06-04-2013, 12:41 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6068062&postcount=5
:lol
secund2nun
06-04-2013, 12:43 AM
Oh so you want to bring up Kobe Bryant in a Game 7 thread?
Kobes Career Game 7s
00 vs POR: 25 points(47.4% shooting)
02 vs SAC: 30 points(38.5% shooting)
06 vs PHO: 24 points(50% shooting)
09 vs HOU: 14 points(33.3% shooting)
10 vs BOS: 23 points(25.0% shooting)
12 vs DEN: 17 points(43.8% shooting)
Career Game 7s Averages: 22.2 PPG 38.9% shooting
LeBron Career Game 7s
06 vs DET: 27 points(45.8% shooting)
08 vs BOS: 45 points(48.5% shooting)
12 vs BOS: 31 points(42.9% shooting)
13 vs IND: 32 points(47.0% shooting)
Career Game 7 Averages: 33.7 PPG 44.0% shooting
And I'm only looking at scoring(the only thing Kobe does!!!!). Not even bringing in LeBrons superior defense, rebounding,playmaking ability. LOL
Dont even try to compare that lesser player rapist to the King.
Kobe is just a choker in every category :roll:
Magic 32
06-04-2013, 12:45 AM
Kobe is just a choker in every category :roll:
http://mavsmag.com/redirk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/258027_522846740410_162900200_30684324_6201276_o.j pg
secund2nun
06-04-2013, 12:49 AM
Magic 32, Kobe cannot even win a playoff series in his prime with prime Odom in the 3 chances he got where he did not have the change to ride the coattail of the best front court in the NBA LOL Kobe= Tmac
Also Lebron 2011 NBA finals of 17-7-7 46% would be considered good next to many of the clunker NBA finals Kobe has had like the 2004 and 2008 NBA finals LOL
And in all 7 of his NBA finals, Kobe only was very good in one of those finals (2009) and even that NBA finals was nothing legendary is pales in comparison to many other NBA finals like Dirk 2011 Lebron 2012 etc.
Kobe= most overrated of all time
Gasol= 2010 finals MVP
Kobe 6/24 LMAO joke finals MVP
Magic 32
06-04-2013, 12:53 AM
Magic 32, Kobe cannot even win a playoff series in his prime with prime Odom in the 3 chances he got where he did not have the change to ride the coattail of the best front court in the NBA LOL Kobe= Tmac
Also Lebron 2011 NBA finals of 17-7-7 46% would be considered good next to many of the clunker NBA finals Kobe has had like the 2004 and 2008 NBA finals LOL
And in all 7 of his NBA finals, Kobe only was very good in one of those finals (2009) and even that NBA finals was nothing legendary is pales in comparison to many other NBA finals like Dirk 2011 Lebron 2012 etc.
Kobe= most overrated of all time
Gasol= 2010 finals MVP
Kobe 6/24 LMAO joke finals MVP
http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/sloth-yawn-cute.gif
AintNoSunshine
06-04-2013, 01:04 AM
A respose to a comment in this thread.
And mind your own f*cking business.
I see, don't have any response to the content:oldlol:
Bigsmoke
06-04-2013, 09:19 AM
why is Kobe is even mentioned in this thread?
take that bullshit some place else.
Bandito
06-04-2013, 11:15 AM
Game 4?
http://i.min.us/invtXc.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Artest:roll:
Uncle Drew
06-04-2013, 11:27 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6068062&postcount=5
:oldlol: :oldlol:
Kiddlovesnets
06-04-2013, 01:08 PM
Kobe in game 7: 22ppg on 38% FG.
:facepalm
Inferno
06-04-2013, 01:24 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6068062&postcount=5
Exposed him :applause:
dh144498
06-04-2013, 01:24 PM
Oh so you want to bring up Kobe Bryant in a Game 7 thread?
Kobes Career Game 7s
00 vs POR: 25 points(47.4% shooting)
02 vs SAC: 30 points(38.5% shooting)
06 vs PHO: 24 points(50% shooting)
09 vs HOU: 14 points(33.3% shooting)
10 vs BOS: 23 points(25.0% shooting)
12 vs DEN: 17 points(43.8% shooting)
Career Game 7s Averages: 22.2 PPG 38.9% shooting
LeBron Career Game 7s
06 vs DET: 27 points(45.8% shooting)
08 vs BOS: 45 points(48.5% shooting)
12 vs BOS: 31 points(42.9% shooting)
13 vs IND: 32 points(47.0% shooting)
Career Game 7 Averages: 33.7 PPG 44.0% shooting
And I'm only looking at scoring(the only thing Kobe does!!!!). Not even bringing in LeBrons superior defense, rebounding,playmaking ability. LOL
Dont even try to compare that lesser player rapist to the King.
this is why I constantly troll on lebron and you lebron stans, because of Lebron stans like you. You guys rather Lebron lose a game and put up great stats (aka stat padding and empty stats), than for him to put up lesser stats and pull out a win..... :facepalm
:coleman:
AintNoSunshine
06-04-2013, 02:56 PM
this is why I constantly troll on lebron and you lebron stans, because of Lebron stans like you. You guys rather Lebron lose a game and put up great stats (aka stat padding and empty stats), than for him to put up lesser stats and pull out a win..... :facepalm
:coleman:
You kobe ******gers are hilarious, kobe puts up scrub numbers and get carried by teammates you're all about win, but when discussing lebron in cleveland you put all the blame on him for not being able to win titles with scrub, even tho he consistently put up 28-8-8
Kobe scrub-like in live-or-die situations, live with it, and don't ever connect him with the word clutch again. :oldlol:
dh144498
06-04-2013, 03:04 PM
You kobe ******gers are hilarious, kobe puts up scrub numbers and get carried by teammates you're all about win, but when discussing lebron in cleveland you put all the blame on him for not being able to win titles with scrub, even tho he consistently put up 28-8-8
Kobe scrub-like in live-or-die situations, live with it, and don't ever connect him with the word clutch again. :oldlol:
you lebron stans are at the other extreme. Difference is, some Kobe fans don't discredit other legends like MJ and Bird to make Lebron look better. :oldlol:
livinglegend
06-04-2013, 04:01 PM
Another great game 7 performance from Lebron.
Great all around game showing his greatness.
And BTW, why is that rapist mentioned in every Lebron thread? He is no nowhere near Lebron. Lebron should only be compared to the likes of MJ, Wilt and Kareem.
lilgodfather1
06-04-2013, 04:22 PM
Another great game 7 performance from Lebron.
Great all around game showing his greatness.
And BTW, why is that rapist mentioned in every Lebron thread? He is no nowhere near Lebron. Lebron should only be compared to the likes of MJ, Wilt and Kareem.
It was cool, and fair for a couple years to compare prime Bryant to early 20's LeBron, now it just looks silly in hindsight. The two players play in different universes.
Lebron23
12-23-2013, 04:12 PM
He's now averaging 34.4 ppg on 47 FG% in Game 7 (elimination Games). By the way here's Magic, Ewing, Hakeem, Larry and kobe stats in game 7 of the NBA Finals.
Kobe Bryant in 2010 - 23/15/2 on 38% TS
Tim Duncan in 2005 - 25/11/3 on 42% TS.
Hakeem Olajuwon in 1994 - 25/10/7 on 44% TS
Patrick Ewing in 1994 - 17/10/1 on 43% TS
Magic Johnson in 1988 - 19/14/5 on 76% TS
Larry Bird in 1984 - 20/12/3 on 6/18 from the field and 12/12 from the line
Magic Johnson in 1984 - 16/15/5 on 5/14 from the field and 5/8 from the line
and the best Game 7 Finals performer among these NBA Superstars.
Lebron James in 2013 - 37/12/4 on 70% TS
SavageMode
12-23-2013, 05:55 PM
Or shall we look at the Lakers against the Mavs in 2011 for a classy blowout performance? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
http://warroomsports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Mavs-sweeping-Lakers.jpg
:roll: :roll:
longtime lurker
12-23-2013, 06:14 PM
he's now averaging 34.2 ppg in Game 7 (elimination Games). By the way here's Magic, Ewing, Hakeem, Larry and kobe stats in game 7 of the NBA Finals.
Kobe Bryant in 2010 - 23/15/2 on 38% TS
Tim Duncan in 2005 - 25/11/3 on 42% TS.
Hakeem Olajuwon in 1994 - 25/10/7 on 44% TS
Patrick Ewing in 1994 - 17/10/1 on 43% TS
Magic Johnson in 1988 - 19/14/5 on 76% TS
Larry Bird in 1984 - 20/12/3 on 6/18 from the field and 12/12 from the line
Magic Johnson in 1984 - 16/15/5 on 5/14 from the field and 5/8 from the line
and the best Game 7 Finals performer among these NBA Superstars.
Lebron James in 2013 - 37/12/4 on 70% TS
You are possibly the most insecure Lebron stan on this site
Naw I'm kidding Pauk will forever have that title
Deuce Bigalow
12-23-2013, 06:40 PM
Oh so you want to bring up Kobe Bryant in a Game 7 thread?
Kobes Career Game 7s
00 vs POR: 25 points(47.4% shooting) 11 REBOUNDS, 7 ASSISTS, 4 BLOCKS
02 vs SAC: 30 points(38.5% shooting) 10 REBOUNDS, 7 ASSISTS
06 vs PHO: 24 points(50% shooting) BLOWOUT LOSS, HAD 21 POINTS ON 8-13 FG AT HALFTIME BUT TEAM WAS STILL DOWN BY 15
09 vs HOU: 14 points(33.3% shooting) BLOWOUT WIN, GAME WAS NEVER CLOSE IN THE 2ND HALF
10 vs BOS: 23 points(25.0% shooting) 15 REBOUNDS
12 vs DEN: 17 points(43.8% shooting) 8 ASSISTS
Career Game 7s Averages: 22.2 PPG 38.9% shooting
Fixed
SamuraiSWISH
12-23-2013, 06:41 PM
Bigger question is why does he need 3x game 7s in Miami with a roster THAT talented? And why is RG (TonyMontana) pumping up LeBron's 44% field goal percentage? Isn't that sacrilegious for what LeBron stans give most value to in basketball? The Prius generation.
K Xerxes
12-23-2013, 06:47 PM
Bigger question is why does he need 3x game 7s in Miami with a roster THAT talented? And why is RG (TonyMontana) pumping up LeBron's 44% field goal percentage? Isn't that sacrilegious for what LeBron stans give most value to in basketball? The Prius generation.
Yeah, if he played with the same elimination game mentality and aggression in other games, some of those series wouldn't have gone to 7.
Still props to the dude for being one of the two best elimination game performers in history, but some of it is his own doing for being a passive bitch in previous games, worrying too much about getting his team mates involved rather than stepping on the opponents' throat from the outset.
Hoopz2332
12-23-2013, 06:47 PM
Bigger question is why does he need 3x game 7s in Miami with a roster THAT talented? And why is RG (TonyMontana) pumping up LeBron's 44% field goal percentage? Isn't that sacrilegious for what LeBron stans give most value to in basketball? The Prius generation.
Lebron's game 7's in Miami
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SamuraiSWISH
12-23-2013, 06:52 PM
2013 vs pacers IMo should have never gone 7 games. Pop's gimmicky defense was enough to throw lebron and miami's game plan off by trying to get lebron to play of of character on offense (tried to tun lebron into a jump shooter to keep him from carving up their lack of rim protection)
That tells you something about LeBron's confidence / aggression levels, or ability at recognizing gimmicky defenses. Mavs did the same thing to LeBron the Spurs did in 2013, or how they did to Wade in 2006. Only difference is Wade recognized it and torched them for letting him shoot mid range shots.
If LeBron played how he did in game 7, there might not have been a need to go 7 games. You do realize this, right? Game 7 v.s. Boston in 2012 is the only true series where I find it justifiable that the Heat didn't put it away until the final possible game. There was even moments in the series v.s. the Pacers last year where he was a little too timid.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-23-2013, 06:57 PM
Bigger question is why does he need 3x game 7s in Miami with a roster THAT talented? And why is RG (TonyMontana) pumping up LeBron's 44% field goal percentage? Isn't that sacrilegious for what LeBron stans give most value to in basketball? The Prius generation.
So RG is TonyMontana? Called that a few months back. :lol
Hoopz2332
12-23-2013, 07:06 PM
That tells you something about LeBron's confidence / aggression levels, or ability at recognizing gimmicky defenses.
lebron did recognize it which is why he was hesitant to shoot jumpers. he easily expoited it when he played with shooters and Wade on the bench
Mavs did the same thing to LeBron the Spurs did in 2013
Not the same defense at all. They turned Lebron into a passer..not a jump shooter and they focused their main d to lebron and let wade get he easier coverage. Old post of mine on it
[quote]Here is the best breakdown of what the mavs did to lebron in that series
Have Mavericks found a recipe to defend LeBron?
[quote]
In five games in the first round against Sixers LeBron averaged only 1,4 turnovers per game and his Game Score was 22,82 so either regular season numbers were a fluke or he simply had figured out Sixers
Lebron23
12-23-2013, 07:10 PM
I am gonna rep you later Hoops. Thank for posting that article.
Droid101
12-23-2013, 07:17 PM
And yet if the Pacer coach didn't blunder the first game's final play, it never even makes it to 7 games.
Food for thought.
Hoopz2332
12-23-2013, 07:27 PM
I am gonna rep you later Hoops. Thank for posting that article.
another post on the differences between how the Mavs played LBJ in 2001 vs Spurs in 2013
a breakdown I saw on another board about the difference in how the 2011 Mavs played lebron vs 2013 Spurs
It wasn't quite "exactly the same". The Mavericks forced James into a strict PG role, where fullcourt pressure on any other ball handler forced the Heat to let James bring the ball down the court. Then, when James wasn't already initiating the offense by making the proper pass to the wings, they forced him to pass up the ball, either throwing a soft double at him or simply by the typical move of the big in the matchup zone to the strong side. Then, once the ball was out of his hands (the right pass Cuban was talking about), the Mavericks played ball denial on him, always covering the passing lanes to him and having a defender right there with him. What they used here was James being an underwhelming off-ball player, who really needs some space to get moving or has the urge to go to the ball. In that way they completely collapsed the spacing from James' POV, thus, even if he got the ball, he had to take tough contested shots with not much opportunities to make the right pass then (but he tried nonetheless and produced more turnovers). That kind of defensive strategy also gave Wade a lot of opportunities going 1on1, which he used and which made him look pretty good. But that was still the better option for the Mavericks than letting James do his things with the ball as the result showed.
The Spurs weren't actually forcing the ball out of James' hand, but rather forcing him towards non-desired spots on the court. They didn't use that zone defense of the Mavericks, but rather 1on1 defensive situations with the help coming from the inside. They tried to cover the passing lanes, but the better spacing still left room for James to make the correct pass. Nonetheless, the Spurs actually wanted James to be a jump shooter and to take more shots from more difficult spots, unlike the Mavericks who wanted him to take less shots, being a somewhat isolated player from the rest of his teammates. The Spurs didn't use the elements of the zone defense as much as the Mavericks, also, because they didn't quite have the players for that.
The Heat improved their spacing besides James, using Bosh as C further away from the basket and had Battier covering PF minutes. Also, they run a lot of lineups with James as the actual PF, putting the pressure on the Spurs to change up their defensive setting when Miller was in as SF. Those latter two options weren't there during the Mavericks series in 2011; where Joel Anthony got nearly 21 min per game (as comparison Chris Andersen got 10 mpg against the Spurs), and Miller was in worse conditions than in 2013. So, the defensive strategy of the Mavericks also worked well, because the Heat teammates weren't as good suited to counter it as the 2013. The series against the Mavericks might very well explain why the Heat actually used their taxpayer MLE on Battier and Allen, despite having James, Wade and Miller for those wing positions already.
The result for James looked similar in terms of shooting efficiency in those two series for a couple of games, but the defensive strategy was really different. At the end, the overall team offensive performance was also quite different, as well as James' impact on that. The Heat with James on the court played over 2 pts per 100 possessions better offensively against the Spurs, and the Spurs were in average better defensively than the 2011 Mavericks.
RoseCity07
12-23-2013, 08:42 PM
LeGod is amazing:bowdown: I know for damn sure if he shot 7-24 in a game 7 he'd never hear the end of it. Lebron keeps succeeding and people keep doubting. The funny thing about it is Lebron fans don't give a shit. When you know you're rooting for the greatest in the game you tune out the haters.
Bitter Cavs fans need to move on and :http://i.imgur.com/fzX51A1.gif
Hoopz2332
12-24-2013, 08:44 AM
:oldlol:
Doranku
12-24-2013, 08:55 AM
another post on the differences between how the Mavs played LBJ in 2001 vs Spurs in 2013
a breakdown I saw on another board about the difference in how the 2011 Mavs played lebron vs 2013 Spurs
All those words to do damage control for LeBron choking hard against the Mavericks in 2011, and almost doing the same thing against the Spurs in 2013. :lol
Hoopz2332
12-24-2013, 10:12 AM
All those words to do damage control for LeBron choking hard against the Mavericks in 2011, and almost doing the same thing against the Spurs in 2013. :lol
http://www.therundown.tv/wp-content/photos/lebronshot9023.gif
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2818293/takethathaters.gif
Lebron23
02-08-2014, 12:49 AM
Lebron is Mr. Game 7, and Mr. Elimination Games.
Lebron Game 7
LeBron Stats:
34.4 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 3.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, .4 BPG, 2.4 TOPG, 47.4 FG%, 31.3 3P%, 79.4 FT%
-Elimination Games-
LeBron Stats:
31.9 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.4 SPG, .6 BPG, 4.5 TOPG, 46.5 FG%, 31.4 3P%, 73.8 FT%
Warfan
02-08-2014, 12:51 AM
Lebron is Mr. Game 7, and Mr. Elimination Games.
Lebron Game 7
LeBron Stats:
34.4 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 3.6 APG, 1.6 SPG, .4 BPG, 2.4 TOPG, 47.4 FG%, 31.3 3P%, 79.4 FT%
-Elimination Games-
LeBron Stats:
31.9 PPG, 10.1 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.4 SPG, .6 BPG, 4.5 TOPG, 46.5 FG%, 31.4 3P%, 73.8 FT%
Lol, why even bump this thread
Lebron23
02-08-2014, 12:53 AM
Lol, why even bump this thread
People are calling him a playoffs choker. The only time he choked and played below his level in the playoffs was back in the 2011 NBA Finals. The Dallas Mavericks interior defense shut him down.
Trollsmasher
02-08-2014, 12:55 AM
Lol, why even bump this thread
It concerns LeGawd. That's the only reason we need:bowdown:
Lebron23
02-08-2014, 01:04 AM
It concerns LeGawd. That's the only reason we need:bowdown:
Here's Michael Jordan Game 7 stats
33.7 points, 7.7 rebounds, seven assists, one steal and one block on 45.7 percent shooting.
orange_chicken
02-08-2014, 01:05 AM
OP is a fakkit
Lebron23
02-08-2014, 01:07 AM
Here's lebron's game 7 performance vs. 2008 Boston Celtics and 2012 Boston Celtics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NBuQE-xIX0
31 points, and 12 rebounds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auTh0FgHdpw
45 points
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 01:07 AM
Good thread. Probably the best game 7 performer of all time. Best player under pressure. Lebron James.
Trollsmasher
02-08-2014, 01:09 AM
Kobe though:facepalm
JT123
02-08-2014, 01:09 AM
Good thread. Probably the best game 7 performer of all time. Best player under pressure. Lebron James.
Welcome back!
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 01:10 AM
Kobe though:facepalm
6 for 24. Needed artest to bail him out.:facepalm
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 01:10 AM
Welcome back!
:cheers:
Leftimage
02-08-2014, 01:13 AM
Good thread. Probably the best game 7 performer of all time. Best player under pressure. Lebron James.
Game 6 vs Boston was the most pressured-filled game of all time for any superstar in NBA history. The fact he performed the way he did was just... wow.
I know this is a game 7 thread but I just wanted to make that assertion.
If someone can find another player who faced as much pressure to win in a single game - legacy on the line type shit - please share because I am looking for more examples. Outcome doesn't matter.
MichaelCorleone
02-08-2014, 01:16 AM
Game 6 vs Boston was the most pressured-filled game of all time for any superstar in NBA history. The fact he performed the way he did was just... wow.
I know this is a game 7 thread but I just wanted to make that assertion.
If someone can find another player who faced as much pressure to win in a single game - legacy on the line type shit - please share because I am looking for more examples. Outcome doesn't matter.
He posted a 45/15/5 on 19 for 26 FG statline in an elimination game.
Lebron James is the undisputed best player under pressure.
Warfan
02-08-2014, 01:23 AM
Yeah people exaggerate his playoff choking, he played shit in the 2011 finals, had like 1 or 2 bad games against Boston in 2010, in 08 he didn't play well for a few games in the series but had a great game 7, and then he played poorly in his first finals but that's pretty much it. He's a very good playoff performer and I'm only critical of the Dallas series and those few games against Boston his last year with the cavs.
[QUOTE]Lebron James is the undisputed best player under pressure.[QUOTE]
:roll:
JohnFreeman
02-08-2014, 01:26 AM
http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/71/17/b47c459d689f0eebc9d74ac7c9ef72af-every-lebron-game-7-basket-in-one-gif.gif
SavageMode
02-08-2014, 02:03 AM
6 for 24. Needed artest to bail him out.:facepalm
:roll:
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