Spurs had an easier road to the Finals.

[LongLiveTheKing]

No Kobe and no Nash and Blake for a couple of games, and Dwight's back was hurt.
Steph Curry got injured and they were taken to 6 by the Warrior. :lol
In the WCF they faced the Grizzlies which should've been beaten by the Thunder but Westbrook got injured.
Heat overcame their biggest weakness in size against the Pacers.

[dbk123]

true

[DonDadda59]

Bucks... Bulls' 3rd stringers...

No.

[Inferno]

Bucks, Bulls with basically everyone injured, and then Pacers (only challenge) compared to Lakers, Warriors (a real challenge too), and the Grizzlies.

It's about even, I'd say.

[Kingwillball]

Yup Heat were much more battle tested and the Spurs are gonna be in for a bit of a Shock going from that they played to playing the Heat..

[tazb]

Agreed. The Pacers series was Miami's Finals.

[tmacattack33]

It's pretty even, but yeah I'd take Indiana over Memphis so i'd say San Antonio had an easier ride to the Finals.

[Inferno]

Yup Heat were much more battle tested and the Spurs are gonna be in for a bit of a Shock going from that they played to playing the Heat..

How are the below .500 Bucks and 3rd string Bulls a bigger challenge than the Grizzlies and Warriors? :oldlol:

Pacers, I'll give you. But that's about it.

[Kingwillball]

Bucks, Bulls with basically everyone injured, and then Pacers (only challenge) compared to Lakers, Warriors (a real challenge too), and the Grizzlies.

It's about even, I'd say.


Nope Bulls are a veteran team and play HARDER than anyone.

[I<3NBA]

Heat has been through 2 very physical series. they've really been tested

[Inferno]

Nope Bulls are a veteran team and play HARDER than anyone.

True, but you're forgetting that they were missing two starters and almost everyone on their roster was injured.

[noob cake]

Memphis would wax the Pacers.

Spurs swept Memphis

[Rockets(T-mac)]

How are the below .500 Bucks and 3rd string Bulls a bigger challenge than the Grizzlies and Warriors? :oldlol:

Pacers, I'll give you. But that's about it.This.

[hitmanyr2k]

Nope Bulls are a veteran team and play HARDER than anyone.

Playing hard doesn't make up for the fact that the Bulls were a sick, injured, gassed team playing third stringers.

[Kingwillball]

Playing hard doesn't make up for the fact that the Bulls were a sick, injured, gassed team playing third stringers.


but they Challenged the Heat, Lakers didn't Challenge Spurs nor did the Grizzlies. GS did to an extent but they were way to young and inexperienced and had 2 best players hurt in that series. Heat are on a WHOLE nother level than anything Spurs have seen in Playoffs on either end of the floor.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Before this series every HEAT "fan" was casually saying how much of a non threat the Pacer were & that the series wouldn't go 6 games..

Now the Pacers were the HEATS "finals"



Let's just put it like this, The Spurs will be the only healthy above .500 team you've faced in the playoffs..

:applause:

[chazzy]

but they Challenged the Heat, Lakers didn't Challenge Spurs nor did the Grizzlies. GS did to an extent but they were way to young and inexperienced and had 2 best players hurt in that series. Heat are on a WHOLE nother level than anything Spurs have seen in Playoffs on either end of the floor.
And the Heat haven't seen anything close to the Spurs offense yet. They played the 8th worst, 7th worst, and 5th worst offense so far

[Purch]

but they Challenged the Heat, Lakers didn't Challenge Spurs nor did the Grizzlies. GS did to an extent but they were way to young and inexperienced and had 2 best players hurt in that series. Heat are on a WHOLE nother level than anything Spurs have seen in Playoffs on either end of the floor.
Your overconfidence in every series is ridiculous, it's at the point where you belive the Heat can't lose a game unless the refs alter the game.

And no, that last line is utterly false. The Grizzlies were the best defensive team in the leauge all season long. Not only were they second in defensive rating ( Right above the Spurs) but they gave up the lowest ppg in the leauge at 89.3.

It's one thing to be confident but to just utterly lie and say that Miami is on a whole different level than Memphis defensively is ridicoulous. Especilly when Memphis has been the best defensive team in the leauge all season, and also had the DPOY. Not only are they not on a whole different level than Memphis defensively, you'd have to give me a good argument to convince me that at any point in the season they were equal to Memphis defensively.

[Kingwillball]

And the Heat haven't seen anything close to the Spurs offense yet. They played the 8th worst, 7th worst, and 5th worst offense so far


true but Spurs are not beating heat in a shootout either and I don't think they want to get grimy like the Pacers or Bulls.

[Inferno]

Your overconfidence in every series is ridiculous, it's at the point where you belive the Heat can't lose a game unless the refs alter the game.

And no, that last line is utterly false. The Grizzlies were the best defensive team in the leauge all season long. Not only were they second in defensive rating ( Right above the Spurs) but they gave up the lowest ppg in the leauge at 89.3.

It's one thing to be confident but to just utterly lie and say that Miami is on a whole different level than Memphis defensively is ridicoulous. Especilly when Memphis has been the best defensive team in the leauge all season, and also had the DPOY.

:applause:

[hitmanyr2k]

but they Challenged the Heat, Lakers didn't Challenge Spurs nor did the Grizzlies. GS did to an extent but they were way to young and inexperienced and had 2 best players hurt in that series. Heat are on a WHOLE nother level than anything Spurs have seen in Playoffs on either end of the floor.

You're saying a Heat team that got challenged by two offensively inept teams (Bulls and Pacers) are on a "whole nother level" than what the Spurs have faced?

[Kingwillball]

Your overconfidence in every series is ridiculous, it's at the point where you belive the Heat can't lose a game unless the refs alter the game.

And no, that last line is utterly false. The Grizzlies were the best defensive team in the leauge all season long. Not only were they second in defensive rating ( Right above the Spurs) but they gave up the lowest ppg in the leauge at 89.3.

It's one thing to be confident but to just utterly lie and say that Miami is on a whole different level than Memphis defensively is ridicoulous. Especilly when Memphis has been the best defensive team in the leauge all season, with the dpoy in the middle also.


Dude, Heat played awful most of that series and Refs favored Pacers (mainly Hibbert) almost every gm besides 7 and still won series. So if Wade and Bosh play better Lebron plays like Lebron they are not losing it is simple as that. Tonight Wade and Bosh were good not Great but they had some other role players make shots and they won by 20+.

[Kingwillball]

You're saying a Heat team that got challenged by two offensively inept teams (Bulls and Pacers) are on a "whole nother level" than what the Spurs have faced?


Yes I am..

[oh the horror]

How are the below .500 Bucks and 3rd string Bulls a bigger challenge than the Grizzlies and Warriors? :oldlol:

Pacers, I'll give you. But that's about it.


This. I'm sorry but some of you on this board are REAAAAAALLY reaching now. :roll:

[HEAT111]

We don't need these type of threads...

it is ISH after all...:facepalm

[ibjar7]

No Kobe and no Nash and Blake for a couple of games, and Dwight's back was hurt.
Steph Curry got injured and they were taken to 6 by the Warrior. :lol
In the WCF they faced the Grizzlies which should've been beaten by the Thunder but Westbrook got injured.
Heat overcame their biggest weakness in size against the Pacers.:durantunimpressed:
Poor LeBran had to rersort to all that GOAT flopping in order to beat the PACERS bran has had a rough life

[Kingwillball]

This. I'm sorry but some of you on this board are REAAAAAALLY reaching now. :roll:


I guess if Miami Dominates Spurs than it won't look so silly. Spurs wont Dominate Miami(they can win series if Wade and Bosh play like this round) but Miami if they play well can dominate SA.

[Purch]

Dude, Heat played awful most of that series and Refs favored Pacers (mainly Hibbert) almost every gm besides 7 and still won series. So if Wade and Bosh lay better Lebron plays like Lebron they are not losing it is simple as that. Tonight Wade and Bosh were good not Great but they had some other role players make shots and they won by 20+.

Your logic isn't translating in your post.

Do you think teams are just gonna roll over just because Bosh and Wade aren't playing like Scrubs? Have you seen how San Antonio plays defense this season?

The Spurs were a top defensive team all season long. But you know the biggest difference between them and Indiana? San Antonio is a top 5 offensive team in the leauge, so they don't go on the kind of scoring droughts a team like Indy does. They move the ball, run their offense and can play effectively at any pace.

Thankfully for you, Spo is smart enough to understand that there's a big difference in being able to shut down the Pacers offense with double teams, and being able to shut down the offense of the Spurs which relies on multiple pick and rolls, backdoor cuts, misdirections, and off ball movement.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I guess if Miami Dominates Spurs than it won't look so silly. Spurs wont Dominate Miami(they can win series if Wade and Bosh play like this round) but Miami if they play well can dominate SA.


How many 50 win teams have the HEAT played this post season?

How many healthy above .500 teams have they played this post season?

[LongLiveTheKing]

How many 50 win teams have the HEAT played this post season?

How many healthy above .500 teams have they played this post season?
How many have the Spurs?:confusedshrug:

[Kingwillball]

Your logic isn't translating in your post.

Do you think teams are just gonna roll over just because Bosh and Wade aren't playing like Scrubs? Have you seen how San Antonio plays defense this season?

The Spurs were a top defensive team all season long. But you know the biggest difference between them and Indiana? San Antonio is a top 5 offensive team in the leauge, so they don't go on the kind of scoring droughts a team like Indy does.

Thankfully for you, Spo is smart enough to understand that there's a big difference in being able to shut down the Pacers offense with double teams, and being able to shut down the offense of the Spurs which relies on multiple pick and rolls, backdoor cuts, misdirections, and off ball movement.


I don't fear SA There big 3 is old and there role players are not better than Miami's role players. Miami is the big dog here the team that was called one of the best the last 25 years not the spurs.. If Miami plays well and refs don't control series they are not losing. Miami playing well>SA playing well.

[Young X]

Hell no, it just looks that way because of Miami playing below their standards. Honestly, if Miami played the way they have so far but in the west, they would've lost in the 2nd round.

[Kingwillball]

Hell no, it just looks that way because of Miami playing below their standards. Honestly, if Miami played the way they have so far but in the west, they would've lost in the 2nd round.


Go to bed please dunce... :hammerhead:

[Inferno]

How many have the Spurs?:confusedshrug:

You cant deny the fact that the Warriors were a much bigger challenge than the depleted Bulls. And the Grizzlies and Pacers are fairly even teams. If anything the two teams had similar roads towards the Finals, but even still I'd lean towards the Spurs having it harder.

[LongLiveTheKing]

You cant deny the fact that the Warriors were a much bigger challenge than the depleted Bulls. And the Grizzlies and Pacers are fairly even teams.
I'm not denying that though?

[Inferno]

I'm not denying that though?

"Spurs had an easier road to the Finals."

Title of your thread.

[Kingwillball]

You cant deny the fact that the Warriors were a much bigger challenge than the depleted Bulls. And the Grizzlies and Pacers are fairly even teams.


Really even ?? Really ?? The Grizz went out like little b!tches in 4 and Pacers played the world champs to 7 games. Hibbert and West played MUCH better than Randolph or Gasol and George alot better than anything else the Grizz have. Pacers>Grizz not even close. Warriors are a fun little team but they just jack up jumpshots and played without Lee and With Curry hurt. Bulls again a better, Bigger stronger defensive team than GS.. U think GS would of not been Dominated by the HEat playing that style U have not atched enough basketball. Also the Bucks> than the Dleague Lakers.

[Purch]

I don't fear SA There big 3 is old and there role players are not better than Miami's role players. Miami is the big dog here the team that was called one of the best the last 25 years not the spurs.. If Miami plays well and refs don't control series they are not losing. Miami playing well>SA playing well.

So they're old? So are you going to completly ignore the fact that Tony Parkers been the second best player in the playoffs behind Lebron, or the fact that Timmys having his best season since 07? Miami can be called whatever they want by whoever, that has nothing to do with basketball, or who'll win a serties.

I'm here trying to talk to you about the basketball aspect of a series and you're giving me media storylines about Miami being called one of the best teams in the past 25 years and ref conspiracies. You're on a god damn basketball forum, at least contribute something thoughtful to the conversation.


I'm gonna do exactly what you just did and replicate your exact level of insight. If San Antonio gets fair reffing they win the series.. case closed.

I'm gonna give you one more post to actually contribute some basic level of basketball insight when it comes to this matchup, or I'll be forced to ignore you for my own sanity.

[Young X]

Go to bed please dunce... :hammerhead:
If they played in the west they would've faced Memphis in the 2nd round. Memphis > Indiana. How would they've beaten Memphis with the way Bosh and Wade were playing? Don't confuse Miami beating 3 sub 50 win teams in the EAST for playing great.

[TheMarkMadsen]

How many have the Spurs?:confusedshrug:


Every team the Spurs have played were above .500

Lakers were missing Kobe but accoridng to a majority of you fools the Lakers are better w/o him anyway right?

The Warriors were missing a healthy Lee but he still played, Unlike the Bulls who were not only missing their MVP but luol deng (all star) and Kirk Hinrich all while only playing 7 guys. IND is a nice team but in no way should they have even of sniffed a finals apperance with no go to scorer & only being a 49 win team.

The Grizzlies are basically a better version of the Pacers, expect instead of Hibber & West they have the DPOY & a consitent 20ppg & 10rpg guy. Not to mention having a top 10 pg instead of george hills inconsistent play. They also have the defensive stoppers in Prince & Allen.. If you thought the Pacers gave Miami a tough series imagine what the Grizzlies would have done.

[Inferno]

Really even ?? Really ?? The Grizz went out like little b!tches in 4 and Pacers played the world champs to 7 games. Hibbert and West played MUCH better than Randolph or Gasol and George alot better than anything else the Grizz have. Pacers>Grizz not even close. Warriors are a fun little team but they just jack up jumpshots and played without Lee and With Curry hurt. Bulls again a better, Bigger stronger defensive team than GS.. U think GS would of not been Dominated by the HEat playing that style U have not atched enough basketball. Also the Bucks> than the Dleague Lakers.

There's a thing called matchups. :facepalm

Randolph and Gasol would give the Heat similar problems that Hibbert and West did. Heat would have around the same amount of trouble with the Grizzlies as they did with the Pacers. SA was a good match for Memphis because they were able to shut down Randolph.

[hitmanyr2k]

Yes I am..

Yeah, your past pre-Finals analysis worked out great. So much comedic gold in that thread :roll: ..

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224149&page=7


Once Heat take Dallas confidence they will steamroll them..


As far as I saw OKC could of won EVERY gm in that series definitely another 2 at least that they flat out couldn't close.. Dallas gets in those situations against Heat its Lights out.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:


Could of fooled me there Defense looked Butter Soft against OKC.. I guess that would be the case after comparing to Bulls and Heat D. Also If Dallas digs that deep into the bag to Play Brewer a guy who has been non existent in Playoffs they are already getting better of them cause Dallas is changing rotation.


Dallas will not be lighting scoreboard up my friend especially not down the stretch of games. Also Dallas D will be getting Punished if Wade and Lebron get into attack mode.. I saw OKC get to the Rim pretty easy last gm so unless they figure some stuff out a team with 3 dominant players is going to beat a team with 1 Dominant player..it is simple math.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:


Notwitski cant stop Bosh.. That is why he is not the best player on the court..He is a one trick pony.. Fadeaway off of One leg pony. Soft on the Boards and on D.. Bosh Just Destroyed a Very good Bulls Front Line(look at his stats for the series) and will be a huge difference maker once again. Marion Will not get U 20..He scores on garbage Plays, Put backs ect and if lebron is Guarding Him most of the Gm will lucky to score half that. Terry can get a 20 point gm maybe once but if He gets Hot heat will lock him down after that make someone else beat them. Im sure Kidd will hit a couple 3's here and there but Dirk will Need to average over 30 ppg this series AND Have one other Player giving U 20.. Heat not gonna let that happen.Either they will make Dirk beat them by himself OR make everyone else beat them. Heat are the better team and will win the series.


Peja wont be playing Much as U take either Stevenson or Marion's Defense off the floor.. Barrea will not be a big factor either. Miller and haslem are just rounding back into form so expect better numbers from both in Finals. Anyway Miami's big 3 will score 70 to 80 points themselves most games so getting 20-25 points between Miller,Chalmers, Haslem,Bibby and Anthony is all the Heat are looking for.

[Purch]

Really even ?? Really ?? The Grizz went out like little b!tches in 4 and Pacers played the world champs to 7 games. Hibbert and West played MUCH better than Randolph or Gasol and George alot better than anything else the Grizz have. Pacers>Grizz not even close. Warriors are a fun little team but they just jack up jumpshots and played without Lee and With Curry hurt. Bulls again a bester, Bigger stronger defendsive team than GS.. U think GS would of not been Dominated by the HEat playing that style U have not atched enough basketball. Also the Bucks> than the Dleague Lakers.


Once again you don't analyze basketball. You just compared 3 people from the grizzlies starting lineup and the pacers and then claimed that as defintive proof that one team is clearly superior. How about the fact that Bayless coming off the bench for the grizzlies is more of a scoring threat than either of Indy's starting guards? How about the Fact Quincy P made more three's off the bench than basicllly anyone on Indy's team outside of PG? How about the fact that Darell Aurthur came in off the bench and half the time sparked runs by playing better than Z-bo? Or how about the fact that Michael conley is a much better defender, passer, and shooter than George Hill?


O but wait Indiana is a much better team because Hibbert and West> Z-Bo Gasol?

Where do you even get that? Do you know why San Antonio made them look so bad? Because they fronted the post and brung help whenever Z-bo caught the ball? Why did it work so well? Because the Spurs had size, unlike Miami which made the Pacers frontcourt look like hall of famers.

I mean did you even think before you made such a simplistic analysis?

[Inferno]

Once again you don't analyze basketball. You just compared 3 people from the grizzlies starting lineup and the pacers and then claimed that as defintive proof that one team is clearly superior. How about the fact that Bayless coming off the bench for the grizzlies is more of a scoring threat than either of Indy's starting guards? How about the Fact Quincy P made more three's off the bench than basicllly anyone on Indy's team outside of PG? How about the fact that Darell Aurthur came in off the bench and half the time sparked runs by playing better than Z-bo? Or how about the fact that Michael conley is a much better defender, passer, and shooter than George Hill?


O but wait Indiana is a much better team because Hibbert and West> Z-Bo Gasol?

Where do you even get that? Do you know why San Antonio made them look so bad? Because they fronted the post and brung help whenever Z-bo caught the ball? Why did it work so well? Because the Spurs had size, unlike Miami which made the Pacers frontcourt look like hall of famers.

I mean did you even think before you made such a simplistic analysis?

I don't think we're getting through to him. :facepalm

:applause: to your posts though.

[pejavelin]

who cares POP is playing chess while Spo is playing chinese checkers. The coach here makes a HUGE difference.

[chazzy]

Yeah, your past pre-Finals analysis worked out great. So much comedic gold in that thread :roll: ..

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224149&page=7





:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:





:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
It doesn't end there

Lakers are nothing Special..and Im Serious..Cavs and Magic Both Beat them in 6..

Cavs are the Best team in the league and will win it all. Anybody who Says lakers are favorites aren't watching the Same Playoffs I am. If I need to Explain Why than I will.

will Be Great Watching Lakers Fans Implode at the Hands of there most Hated Team..the Cavs.

[KG215]

Yup Heat were much more battle tested and the Spurs are gonna be in for a bit of a Shock going from that they played to playing the Heat..
Seriously, you're just an awful poster.

[Purch]

:facepalm It's one thing to pick the heat. But to show that you have no abilty to offer any level of insight on the actual matchup, make me question why he's been on a basketball forum for 6 years. I mean at what point do you stop repeating espn storylines like "The Spurs are old", "The heat are one of the best teams in 25 years" and all that crap and start actually formulating your own damn opinion

[305Baller]

Indiana over Memphis you say? hmmm. Im not sure about that.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Every team the Spurs have played were above .500

Lakers were missing Kobe but accoridng to a majority of you fools the Lakers are better w/o him anyway right?

The Warriors were missing a healthy Lee but he still played, Unlike the Bulls who were not only missing their MVP but luol deng (all star) and Kirk Hinrich all while only playing 7 guys. IND is a nice team but in no way should they have even of sniffed a finals apperance with no go to scorer & only being a 49 win team.

The Grizzlies are basically a better version of the Pacers, expect instead of Hibber & West they have the DPOY & a consitent 20ppg & 10rpg guy. Not to mention having a top 10 pg instead of george hills inconsistent play. They also have the defensive stoppers in Prince & Allen.. If you thought the Pacers gave Miami a tough series imagine what the Grizzlies would have done.
Pacers actually have a good perimeter player in PG. The Pacers had the Heat's biggest weakness in size and the Heat overcame it.

[KG215]

Pacers actually have a good perimeter player in PG. The Pacers had the Heat's biggest weakness in size and the Heat overcame it.
And the Grizzlies actually have a very good PG while the Pacers...don't. Hill is solid and adequate but that's about it. He's very bad at running/orchestrating an offense and he's a very inconsistent scorer. Not saying Conley is better than Paul George, but that would've a position the Grizzlies would have a clear advantage against the Heat.

[Kingwillball]

Seriously, you're just an awful poster.

Why when I am right most of the time ?

[Purch]

When comparing Indy and Memphis I really think it can't be overlooked that Bayless of their bench is more of a scoring threat than either of Indy's starting guards

[LongLiveTheKing]

And the Grizzlies actually have a very good PG while the Pacers...don't. Hill is solid and adequate but that's about it. He's very bad at running/orchestrating an offense and he's a very inconsistent scorer. Not saying Conley is better than Paul George, but that would've a position the Grizzlies would have a clear advantage against the Heat.
They would've had an advantage down low with Z-Bo and Marc.

[KG215]

Why when I am right most of the time ?
You're right most of the time because you stick to the status quo and confidently backing the best team in basketball. It's easy to "right most of the time" when all you do is basically say the best team in the league with the best player in the world at his peak is going to win.

Outside of repeating the same tired bullshit about the Heat we can get from a quick Google search that would lead us to an ESPN or Yahoo article, you provide no knowledgeable insight to other teams and players.

[Kingwillball]

:facepalm It's one thing to pick the heat. But to show that you have no abilty to offer any level of insight on the actual matchup, make me question why he's been on a basketball forum for 6 years. I mean at what point do you stop repeating espn storylines like "The Spurs are old", "The heat are one of the best teams in 25 years" and all that crap and start actually formulating your own damn opinion


I gave U my opinion. Barring Injuries and Rigged reffing against Miami IF that is IF miami plays well MEANING if Lebron, Wade and Bosh all play good and/or if 2 of the 3 play good and role players step up like chalmers, allen, cole, battier ect they will not lose series doesn't matter how U break down the x's and the o's.. IF those things don't happen than SA has a chance to win series. It is as simple as that.

[All Net]

Both teams had one really tough series...so their road wasn't that much different.

[KG215]

They would've had an advantage down low with Z-Bo and Marc.
I know, but they also would've had a clear advantage at the PG position. While PG might be better than Conley (although it's not by much if Conley is playing like he did the first two rounds) the Heat still had the advantage at his position.

[Purch]

Why when I am right most of the time ?

You're right when you pick a team that's usally the favorite. That's not why you're a bad poster. You're a bad poster because you offer no insight in any of your post, it's just random things like " That teams old" "The refs are against us" bla bla, but you offer no level of understanding about matchups, or different defenses, or different offenses.

That's why you're a bad poster.

Any causal fan can sign up and say " Heat win cause San Antonio is old" but that doesn't offer any insight that buys you any credibility among real basketball fans.

[KG215]

When comparing Indy and Memphis I really think it can't be overlooked that Bayless of their bench is more of a scoring threat than either of Indy's starting guards
Yeah, the Grizzlies get criticized for their weak bench and lack of perimeter scoring, but they're better in both departments than the Pacers.

[Kingwillball]

You're right most of the time because you stick to the status quo and confidently backing the best team in basketball. It's easy to "right most of the time" when all you do is basically say the best team in the league with the best player in the world at his peak is going to win.

Outside of repeating the same tired bullshit about the Heat we can get from a quick Google search that would lead us to an ESPN or Yahoo article, you provide no knowledgeable insight to other teams and players.

Really who do U need a breakout on ? I have seen at least 20 NBA players while they were in HS live in the last 10 to 15 years including Lebron. I know all the teams and Players but chose not to write about them because there is only so much time and energy U can put into these boards. When other teams play Miami than I give my insight. Like for Example Hibbert who was always in Foul trouble(3rd most fouls in the league) in regular season played waay over his head in this series and Wade and Bosh way under which is why series went 7.

[Purch]

I gave U my opinion. Barring Injuries and Rigged reffing against Miami IF that is IF miami plays well MEANING if Lebron, Wade and Bosh all play good and/or if 2 of the 3 play good and role players step up like chalmers, allen, cole, battier ect they will not lose series doesn't matter how U break down the x's and the o's.. IF those things don't happen than SA has a chance to win series. It is as simple as that.

So lol you're just telling me the espn storyline that as long as Lebron gets help there's no way the heat can lose? And you call that insight.

* You told me nothing about how the heat match up defensively with the Spurs
* You told me nothing about the difficulties the Spurs will have guarding Lebron in the post
* You told me nothing about guarding the muiltiple pick and rolls the Spurs run for Parker on every possesion
* You told me nothing about whether or not the Heat should match the Spurs size inside or play small ball.
* You told me nothing about how Kwahi's defense is differnt than Paul George's.
* You said nothing about the Perimiter defense of green on Wade.
* You said nothing about the Timmy-Bosh matchup


This is exactly what I'm talking about, any person can make a post saying " DER IF ALL THE BIG 3 PLAY WELL EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE", but the matchups, offenses and defenses of the two opposing teams are what decides who will get oppurtunities and who can be effective

[Kingwillball]

Yeah, the Grizzlies get criticized for their weak bench and lack of perimeter scoring, but they're better in both departments than the Pacers.

Bayless and Poindexter are ok but George is Wayy better than anything Grizz have. George, West, Hibbert >Conley,Randolph, Gasol.

[Purch]

Bayless and Poindexter are ok but George is Wayy better than anything Grizz have. George, West, Hibbert >Conley,Randolph, Gasol.

This is the crap that makes you a bad poster. Do you honestly think just comparing three players from each team tells you which team is better? :oldlol:

You sound like a casual fan.

[Kingwillball]

So lol you're just telling me the espn storyline that as long as Lebron gets help there's no way the heat can lose? And you call that insight.

* You told me nothing about how the heat match up defensively with the Spurs
* You told me nothing about the difficulties the Spurs will have guarding Lebron in the post
* You told me nothing about guarding the muiltiple pick and rolls the Spurs run for Parker on every possesion
* You told me nothing about whether or not the Heat should match the Spurs size inside or play small ball.
* You told me nothing about how Kwahi's defense is differnt than Paul George's.
* You said nothing about the Perimiter defense of green on Wade.
* You said nothing about the Timmy-Bosh matchup


This is exactly what I'm talking about, any person can make a post saying " DER IF ALL THE BIG 3 PLAY WELL EVERYTHING WILL BE FINE", but the matchups, offenses and defenses of the two opposing teams are what decides who will get oppurtunities and who can be effective

Did U read where I said forget the x's and O's.. We can talk about x's and o's all U want but it won't effect the Bottom line. The Bottom line is How U get there after all the points U just tried to make. Cause and effect if the Things U said cause Miami to play below there capability Spurs will win. Do U really want me to break down point by point how I think it will play out than I will ?

[imdaman99]

This is the crap that makes you a bad poster. Do you honestly think just comparing three players from each team tells you which team is better? :oldlol:

You sound like a casual fan.
He is a terrible poster. He lives his life through Lebron James. Just do yourself a favor and put queenwillball on ignore :lol

[Kingwillball]

This is the crap that makes you a bad poster. Do you honestly think just comparing three players from each team tells you which team is better? :oldlol:

You sound like a casual fan.


Hibbert size dominated Heat.. Randolph is 6"9 and not athletic.. Gasol not the low post beat of Hibbert either. Against Miami that is what cause them problems. George is also a budding star capable of doing so many things. Prince is an afterthought. How can U say Memphis is better than Indiana after getting Swept and looking inept at times.

[Kingwillball]

He is a terrible poster. He lives his life through Lebron James. Just do yourself a favor and put queenwillball on ignore :lol


Your a moron if U think any of that. I bet U think my user name Kingwillball is for Lebron ? I will let U and the rest of the dolts in on a secret.. Will is My name so it is a play on names..All of U think it means Lebron will ball but it doesn't..

[Purch]

Did U read where I said forget the x's and O's.. We can talk about x's and o's all U want but it won't effect the Bottom line. The Bottom line is How U get there after all the points U just tried to make. Cause and effect if the Things U said cause Miami to play below there capability Spurs will win. Do U really want me to break down point by point how I think it will play out than I will ?

Obviously if you demonstrate some sort of understanding on the teams facing off against each other than your predictions would actually be taken seriously.

I know rocket science :biggums:

[Purch]

Hibbert size dominated Heat.. Randolph is 6"9 and not athletic.. Gasol not the low post beat of Hibbert either. Against Miami that is what cause them problems. George is also a budding star capable of doing so many things. Prince is an afterthought. How can U say Memphis is better than Indiana after getting Swept and looking inept at times.



I swear I already adressed this. The sentence I underlined shows the issues with the lack of insight you bring.

Just because one teams gets swept and another has a long series doesn't mean that that team is better. Especilly considering Memphis and Indy played two other series before the conference finals and the fact that they played freaking 82 games before the playoffs. You're impulsive you judge teams series by series rather than simply looking at their strengths and weaknesses

[Kingwillball]

I swear I already adressed this. The sentence I underlined shows the issues with the lack of insight you bring.

Just because one teams gets swept and another has a long series doesn't mean that that team is better. Especilly considering Memphis and Indy played two other series before the conference finals and the fact that they played freaking 82 games before the playoffs. You're impulsive you judge teams series by series rather than simply looking at their strengths and weaknesses


Ok Pacers beat Memphis in 6 in a series ..

[chazzy]

Hibbert size dominated Heat.. Randolph is 6"9 and not athletic.. Gasol not the low post beat of Hibbert either. Against Miami that is what cause them problems. George is also a budding star capable of doing so many things. Prince is an afterthought. How can U say Memphis is better than Indiana after getting Swept and looking inept at times.
So no credit to the Spurs for making the Grizz look bad?

Ok Pacers beat Memphis in 6 in a series ..
DAT INSIGHT :bowdown:

I do the teaching around here.
http://aggroswag.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/kobe-hilariously-confused-reaction-gif.gif

[Kingwillball]

Obviously if you demonstrate some sort of understanding on the teams facing off against each other than your predictions would actually be taken seriously.

I know rocket science :biggums:


Dude, your not teaching me anything or educating me ok.. I do the teaching around here. My point is getting to the bottom line that the Heat are the better team than the Spurs.

[Kingwillball]

So no credit to the Spurs for making the Grizz look bad?

DAT INSIGHT :bowdown:


YEs sir.. better team, but would be alot of 82-78 type of games played in Mud. Memphis would not be able to exert there Will against Pacers like they do against most teams and Pacers have athletic players on the wing. George would be the difference in series a constant 20 ppg player even if West/Hibbert and Gasol/randolph cancel each other out..

[Purch]

Well he made it onto my ignore list:cheers:

[Kingwillball]

Well he made it onto my ignore list:cheers:


Good.. Do U really live in Utah, that has to be the WORST place in the USA to live btw... :roll:

[Greg Oden 50]

No Kobe and no Nash and Blake for a couple of games, and Dwight's back was hurt.
Steph Curry got injured and they were taken to 6 by the Warrior. :lol
In the WCF they faced the Grizzlies which should've been beaten by the Thunder but Westbrook got injured.
Heat overcame their biggest weakness in size against the Pacers.

HEAT PLAYS AGAISNT NO ROSE & DENG's BULLS :roll:

[ripthekik]

please, Heat still has the easiest road of anyone. Bucks? a team that won't even make the playoffs in the west :lol

Bulls without 3 of their starters, and nate robinson :oldlol:

Pacers are the only decent challenge.

So they had to play 1 series to get into the finals. Which other team in history has it as easy as this? Just play 1 series and you're in the finals.

[#number6ix#]

Lakers didnt have Kobe,Nash,Meeks,Metta,Blake doesn't get any easier than that

Warriors had a hobble curry and a injured Lee
They a good but outmatched grizzlies

[SpurrDurr]

Lakers didnt have Kobe,Nash,Meeks,Metta,Blake doesn't get any easier than that

Warriors had a hobble curry and a injured Lee
They a good but outmatched grizzlies

When a team like the Lakers have so many old players, you can't be surprised if they get injuried.
It's NBA not a geriatric hospital :lol

As for the Warriors, Curry is ankles always giving him trouble
That didn't stop him to play heavy minutage and torch the Spurs.
Lee it was infortunate, but at least they had Bogut back from the grave playing.

Tell me again about how much healthy was Chicago and how much of a challenge a sub .500 team rapresents.

Only cause Heat lost more games than the Spurs during POS doesn't mean that SAS had an easier road. It means that SAS just played better :confusedshrug:

[Greg Oden 50]

Lakers didnt have Kobe,Nash,Meeks,Metta,Blake doesn't get any easier than that

Warriors had a hobble curry and a injured Lee
They a good but outmatched grizzlies

Lakers >>>>>>>>> BUCKS :banana:

[TMT]

:oldlol: Bucks and Bulls hardly looked like NBA teams in the playoffs. And it's no understatement to say that the Heat have proceeded to make the Pacers look like a far better team than they really are (same thing they did with the Celtics last year) in these Eastern Conference Finals. Spurs would have worked the Pacers in a series.

Heat fans expect credit for getting pushed way too far by teams that shouldn't be causing you anything close to these kinds of problems the past two years? In the EASTERN CONFERENCE nonetheless? :no: gtfo.

[Nero Tulip]

The Heat made other teams look like NBA contenders.

The Spurs made every other team look like shit.

Love seeing this thread. A testament of how well we've played so far.

[wally_world]

Seemed easier because they ran through their opponents

Heat hardly defeated the Bull's bench and a Pacers team with no offence

[LongLiveTheKing]

please, Heat still has the easiest road of anyone. Bucks? a team that won't even make the playoffs in the west :lol

Bulls without 3 of their starters, and nate robinson :oldlol:

Pacers are the only decent challenge.

So they had to play 1 series to get into the finals. Which other team in history has it as easy as this? Just play 1 series and you're in the finals.
Pacers challenged the Heat more than anyone did to the Spurs. And Spurs weren't challenged because of injuries that I mentioned.

[chazzy]

Pacers challenged the Heat more than anyone did to the Spurs. And Spurs weren't challenged because of injuries that I mentioned.
Does that say something about the competition, or how well the Spurs played? Because the Heat massively underperformed vs the Pacers

[Crafty]

No, Bucks below 0.500 and injuered Bulls.

But, Pacers >> Memphis, Warriors or Lakers

[poido123]

Pacers challenged the Heat more than anyone did to the Spurs. And Spurs weren't challenged because of injuries that I mentioned.

Spurs with plenty of rest, with proven veterans hungry for one last title. I'd be scared if I were a Heat fan.

This series is gonna shock you. I think the Spurs can really challenge the Heat, considering rest factor and guys who live by the clutch.

Pop would have some excellent ideas to disect the heat's tendancies. Heat are a momentum machine, so if you limit their fastbreaks and disrupt their rhythm they can be made to look disorganised. I can see a lot of double team traps on lebron, and forcing wade and bosh into jumpshooters. They can do that by simply allowing more space to stop them driving. Spurs wont be too concerned about the 3 pt shooters, they have them too.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Spurs with plenty of rest, with proven veterans hungry for one last title. I'd be scared if I were a Heat fan.

This series is gonna shock you. I think the Spurs can really challenge the Heat, considering rest factor and guys who live by the clutch.

Pop would have some excellent ideas to disect the heat's tendancies. Heat are a momentum machine, so if you limit their fastbreaks and disrupt their rhythm they can be made to look disorganised. I can see a lot of double team traps on lebron, and forcing wade and bosh into jumpshooters. They can do that by simply allowing more space to stop them driving. Spurs wont be too concerned about the 3 pt shooters, they have them too.
Pop is a great advantage for the Spurs, I wouldn't be surprised if Spurs win but I expect Heat to. Spurs are going to be rusty come Game 1.

[poido123]

Pop is a great advantage for the Spurs, I wouldn't be surprised if Spurs win but I expect Heat to. Spurs are going to be rusty come Game 1.

Apart from Lebron being the obvious advantage, I dont see alot of other matchups I would give to the Heat? Perhaps wade over Green, but Wade's inconsistency and decline is something to be concerned about.

I think Heat have really got their hands full on this one. :confusedshrug:

[Doranku]

If this Spurs team can't beat Miami, then no one can.

They have the coaching, the bigs, the PG, the savvy veterans, the explosive offense, and the defense.

[kNicKz]

No Kobe and no Nash and Blake for a couple of games, and Dwight's back was hurt.
Steph Curry got injured and they were taken to 6 by the Warrior. :lol
In the WCF they faced the Grizzlies which should've been beaten by the Thunder but Westbrook got injured.
Heat overcame their biggest weakness in size against the Pacers.
oh so now Kobe isn't overrated :roll:

No rose, granger, and the heat played the ****ing bucks....fall back son. That was a historically easy path.

[SoCalLakersFan1]

Heat > Spurs > Grizzlies > Pacers > Warriors > Bulls > Bucks > Lakers

[Odinn]

No. Overreactions due to Pacers being the toughest macthup for Heat are at its best.


- Spurs had an easier road to the Finals.
No. That's just wrong.

- Spurs are the favourites of the NBA Finals.
No. That's just wrong, too.