E3 2013 June 11-13

[Kungfro]

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E3 is starting to ramp up, so I think we should start one thread to put everything.

http://www.e3expo.com/

Konami did their Pre-E3 show already.
http://www.gamespot.com/shows/gamespot-live/?event=konami-pre-e3-show-2013&tag=Topslot;Slot (http://www.gamespot.com/shows/gamespot-live/?event=konami-pre-e3-show-2013&tag=Topslot;Slot1)

[Rose]

I know they're catching some shit for it, but I think skipping E3 and doing a special nintendo direct is better for Nintendo anyways.

[GOBB]

Fable 4 legit? I'm going to buy but Fable 3 was kind of eh. Enjoyed 2 the most along with the annoying people trying to trade & sell. :oldlol:

[Kungfro]

Nintendo will be revealing Smash Bros Wii U gameplay at E3.
http://www.inquisitr.com/690152/super-smash-bros-e3-2013-nintendo-direct-to-host-first-coverage/


Fable 4 legit? I'm going to buy but Fable 3 was kind of eh. Enjoyed 2 the most along with the annoying people trying to trade & sell. :oldlol:
There's apparently an HD remake of the first in the works, not sure about a 4th one though.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/06/04/lionhead-teases-fable-hd-remake

[Kungfro]

Microsoft will be starting soon, check the e3expo link for the stream.

[Jameerthefear]

Fable 4 legit? I'm going to buy but Fable 3 was kind of eh. Enjoyed 2 the most along with the annoying people trying to trade & sell. :oldlol:
Fable 3 is free on Xbox if you're interested.

[Jameerthefear]

Microsoft bout to start

[Rose]

M$ running late already.:roll:


Ever think Bill Gates regrets letting Ballmer take control of the company?

[Rose]

MGS:RDR.


lol.

[Rose]

M$ done lost their mind.


"WE REDID THE 360!!! WE MADE IT A FAT VCR!!!

Look we're copying PSN!!!! YOU GET 4 YEAR OLD GAMES FREE!!!!!


and a launch title!!! "

[Rose]

Must say: not impressed with Ryse. And I kinda had high hopes for it

[Rose]

Sunset overdrive: A zombie game that plays just like bulletstorm!



The forza thing with the McClaren was kinda badass, not gonna lie.:lol

[Qwyjibo]

Must say: not impressed with Ryse. And I kinda had high hopes for it
What? You didn't like God of War: Microsoft Edition with next-gen quick time events?

[Rose]

What? You didn't like God of War: Microsoft Edition with next-gen quick time events?
That's exactly what I said to my friend.:oldlol:

[Beatlezz]

This is it Sony. Do not fukk this up. :bowdown:

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[Rose]

Unless Minecraft comes to xbox one for free for 360 purchasers, I don't give a shit about this.

[Rose]

Really glad I waited all this time for minimum revealed about Quantum Break.

[Rose]

Project Spark has the potential to be ****ing fantastic.

[Jameerthefear]

Yeah looks cool.

[Rose]

It's cute how M$ thinks people are still going to buy their overpriced tablets.:lol

[Lebowsky]

Damn all this social bullshit. I can't believe they're putting so much resources into this shit.

[Rose]

I actually the DVR thing. Especially with the twitch partnership.

[Rose]

:roll: :roll: :roll: the boos.

[Jameerthefear]

Someone is getting fired today.

[Rose]

So we've had two zombie games now.:facepalm


As long as Sony doesn't overprice this shit and releases GT6 on PS4...I think I know which way I'm going.

[Lebowsky]

I actually the DVR thing. Especially with the twitch partnership.
Well I, for one, couldn't care less about DVRing, uploading, sharing or streaming anything. I wish they would put the resources on actual games instead of on gimmicks. I haven't been impressed by anything they've shown so far. That project Spark looks promising, kind of a broader LBP. The rest has been meh. I'm especially disappointed in the graphics, nothing they've shown looks any better than what you can currently see for PS3.

[Rose]

WAO A SLEDGEHAMMER CHAINSAW!!!

Somewhere Cliffy B is crying.

[Lebowsky]

And the fact they showed a 30 second video trailer of a game WITHOUT sound is ****ing ridiculous. Looked really amateurish.

[Rose]

Well I, for one, couldn't care less about DVRing, uploading, sharing or streaming anything. I wish they would put the resources on actual games instead of on gimmicks. I haven't been impressed by anything they've shown so far. That project Spark looks promising, kind of a broader LBP. The rest has been meh. I'm especially disappointed in the graphics, nothing they've shown looks any better than what you can currently see for PS3.
I like it because it can be a good way for me to see how a game actually plays since there's no used games. Plus I always liked the theatre option in Halo. :oldlol:

But totally agreed with you on everything else you said.

[Rose]

battlefield 4:bowdown:


No sound edition!!!

[Al Thornton]

these games boring

[Al Thornton]

i feel bad for that battlefield man

[Rose]

I wonder if it's their xbox one ****ing up, the speakers...or...?


the Dice guy lol. "we're continuing?"

yay sound!

[Jameerthefear]

NO SOUND AGAIN LOL
what a joke
someone is getting fired todayLOL

[Al Thornton]

why do they spend so much money on this single player shit that no one is going to play?

[Rose]

why do they spend so much money on this single player shit that no one is going to play?
You won't even play it once, not even with me?:(

[Rose]

The Dice guy now looks pissed.:lol

[Al Thornton]

You won't even play it once, not even with me?:(

only one i played was the first bad company and it was good because it had a unique style and it actually played like multiplayer battlefield. this is just cod 4 campaign with more explosions and stuff. very lame

[Jameerthefear]

The Dice guy now looks pissed.:lol
That would be embarrassing/

[Rose]

only one i played was the first bad company and it was good because it had a unique style and it actually played like multiplayer battlefield. this is just cod 4 campaign with more explosions and stuff. very lame
bad company 2 had one of the better campaigns for a shooter I played. I highly recommend it.

[Jameerthefear]

Campaign for shooters is just stale and boring to me. I have never completed a campaign for a shooter that is mostly for multiplayer.

[Rose]

Alright Halo 5, you looked pretty darn good. I can't front.

[Al Thornton]

no one wants more halo!

[Rose]

Only games that impressed me: Project Spark, and forza 5.


500 buck price tag? OOOOO:biggums:

[Al Thornton]

broski didn't say that clearly, what is the price?

[Rose]

Who else is disappointed this isn't a Gundam game? I know I am.



Titanfall also impressed me so an astounding three games.

[Jameerthefear]

$499
no thx

Why didn't they close with Halo?

[Al Thornton]

this game looks like trash

[Rose]

So PS4 probably at 450?

[Qwyjibo]

I think I'll give the Battlefield series a shot for this upcoming round. When it comes to brainless flashy shooters, I think I've had my fill of CoD for a while.

Then again, I've been playing a lot more Counterstrike GO lately and it's tough to beat the simple shooting mechanics and strategy of the Counterstrike series.

[Rose]

I think I'll give the Battlefield series a shot for this upcoming round. When it comes to brainless flashy shooters, I think I've had my fill of CoD for a while.

Then again, I've been playing a lot more Counterstrike GO lately and it's tough to beat the simple shooting mechanics and strategy of the Counterstrike series.
:applause:

Best decision you'll make when it comes to shooters.

[Kungfro]

EA starting in a couple minutes. I'm interested in hearing what Respawn is working on.

[Rose]

I'm excited for Star Wars.:lol


And IF Mass Effect 4 is there, what exactly they're doing. I'm soured on the franchise but willing to come back.

[GOBB]

Kung what system are u getting?

Anyone know the price of ps4.

Can i find todays game videos on youtube? Havent seen anything yet. Want to see how the game looks on xbox one vs xbox 360.


$499
no thx

Why didn't they close with Halo?

You were expecting it to be cheaper?

[Rose]

Kung what system are u getting?

Anyone know the price of ps4.

Can i find todays game videos on youtube? Havent seen anything yet. Want to see how the game looks on xbox one vs xbox 360.



You were expecting it to be cheaper?
http://kotaku.com/ Should have most of them if you scroll down.

PS4 price is unknown, but will most likely be released tonight when they present.

[Kungfro]

Kung what system are u getting?

Anyone know the price of ps4.

Can i find todays game videos on youtube? Havent seen anything yet. Want to see how the game looks on xbox one vs xbox 360.



You were expecting it to be cheaper?

I'm kind leaning towards PS4 at this point, we'll see how Sony does during their conference tonight.

[Qwyjibo]

PS4 should be cheaper unless they are assholes. The mandatory Kinect is probably what's inflating the Xbone's price.

[Rose]

Battlefront!:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Need for speed looks pretty good too.

[Rose]

I hope the Bynum glitch happens if they do a live demo on Elite 14.:lol

Back to live,eh? Alright.

[Jameerthefear]

Kyrie <3

[Jameerthefear]

That looked pretty cool.

[CeltsGarlic]

That looked pretty cool.

Not really :(

[Kungfro]

That Plants vs Zombies game looks really silly in a fun kind of way. I could see picking it up as a downloadable title or something. Kind of reminds me of Monday Night Combat in some ways.

[Rose]

o sheeeet. Drake.














:rolleyes:

[Rose]

I have a shitload of respect for Dana White. Probably the best commissioner in sports. Unbelievable what he's done.

[LJJ]

Man, I would love a good Romans game. Such shite that it's a Kinect game.

[Al Thornton]

fck yes!!!!

[Rose]

Mirrors Edge, coming when it's ready.:oldlol:

[Kungfro]

Great to see another Mirror's Edge in the works. The first one had it's share of problems, but it was such a cool concept. I'd love to see them take another stab at it.

[GOBB]

NBA Live graphics look crappy. I need more footage because the Kyrie Irving vs LAC footage is horrible. Did you guys see how Deandre Jordan looks shape wise? :facepalm

[Heavincent]

NBA Live graphics look crappy. I need more footage because the Kyrie Irving vs LAC footage is horrible. Did you guys see how Deandre Jordan looks shape wise? :facepalm

They keep trying to resurrect NBA Live but they keep failing. I don't think this year will be any different. The series hasn't been relevant in damn near a decade.

I'm pretty sure the next gen 2K will be revealed at the Sony conference.

[Kungfro]

This is probably the first racing game I've seen that looks sorta interesting at E3.

[Kungfro]

They are really pushing tablet and smartphone integration this year.

[Kungfro]

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[Kungfro]

Sony starting right away.

[jaydacris]

ps4 reveal. here it comes!

[jaydacris]

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[Kungfro]

Looks a bit like the Xbox One, though definitely smaller.

[Qwyjibo]

Please at least mention The Last Guardian. Even just acknowledge its existence.

[TylerOO]

This PS4 event has been pretty bad.

[Kungfro]

They're seriously making a sequel to Octodad? That's awesome.

[Al Thornton]

wheres johnny v?

[Qwyjibo]

Ugh, all of E3 has been so underwhelming today. The Xbone, Sony, EA... everything.

One appearance of the Last Guardian or Gabe Newell can fix everything though.

[Jameerthefear]

pretty boring so far. they need more gameplay. doesn't matter though, I think their exclusives >>>>>> XB1

[Jameerthefear]

What a flop by Sony

[TylerOO]

What a flop by Sony

This. I was hoping to be impressed but this is just boring and nothing special.

[jaydacris]

haha lebron james :lol

[Brujesino]

Maybe its because they arent use to the new hardware but the graphics dont look much better from current gen.It may just be me though.

[Qwyjibo]

I really liked the indie games presentation Sony did. That was great. But other than that? Meh. Just like everything else today. Maybe if I was a Kingdom Hearts fan I'd think differently but I'm not.

[Jameerthefear]

2k looked nicccceee

[Brujesino]

haha lebron james :lol
dat digital nose

[Jameerthefear]

I JUST BLEW A LOAD!!!!! ESO ON PS4??? wowwww

[Qwyjibo]

Sony give some details on pricing, online requirements and used games. I'm pretty sure everyone is just waiting for that given most games are going to be on both consoles anyways.

[Jameerthefear]

Sony give some details on pricing, online requirements and used games. I'm pretty sure everyone is just waiting for that given most games are going to be on both consoles anyways.
If I'm getting a console it WILL be PS4. I'm not supporting M$'s bullshit

[jaydacris]

im leaning towards ps4....

mad max!

[Brujesino]

If I'm getting a console it WILL be PS4. I'm not supporting M$'s bullshit
What if they have the same thing?

[Jameerthefear]

bye bye M$ LOL

[jaydacris]

hahahah, just rubbing it in microsoft's face

[Brujesino]

oh shit no restrictions

[Qwyjibo]

Oh shit, there's the bombshell. Good job, Sony.

I'm sure some publishers will protect the re-selling of their games themselves and Sony won't have any control over that. But at least for the ones that don't, Sony will support that.

[Jameerthefear]

What if they have the same thing?
Nope!!

[Al Thornton]

lmao they went in on xbox

[Kungfro]

Well that decides it， PS4 it is．Suck it Microsoft.

[Al Thornton]

http://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA

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[Brujesino]

oh shit no restrictions
game changer leaning towards ps4 now.Give me a price sony.

[TylerOO]

FCKKKK i missed the last 15 minutes. What I miss.????

[TylerOO]

http://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA

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:roll: :roll:

[Brujesino]

http://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA

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:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

:roll:

[Jameerthefear]

Now THESE games look cool

[TylerOO]

My friend said Destiny is makers of Halo 3 and COD4 teaming up. Is that true?

[Al Thornton]

i thought destiny would be lame but it looks raw

[Jameerthefear]

My friend said Destiny is makers of Halo 3 and COD4 teaming up. Is that true?
Yep.

Sony has done a complete 180

[Lebowsky]

I don't know what game this is, but it looks nice. The graphics look way better than anything I saw during Microsoft's conference.

[Qwyjibo]

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/344286248132812800


This PS4 video is awesome but check fine print. Does multiplayer gaming on PS4 now require PSPlus?

Hmmmm, hopefully they explain that. I guess it all depends on the price of the system though. If they do go with a $400-450 price then people shouldn't mind too much paying for online play.

[jaydacris]

My friend said Destiny is makers of Halo 3 and COD4 teaming up. Is that true?

well activision is the publisher, who publishes the CoD games (made by infinity ward and treyarch alternating)

bungie is the original developers of halo (who were once owned by microsoft, and split away)

so yes, he is right

[Jameerthefear]

i thought destiny would be lame but it looks raw
Yeah this looks sick

[Kungfro]

My friend said Destiny is makers of Halo 3 and COD4 teaming up. Is that true?

He's very wrong. The cod4 team is now known as Respawn and is with EA making Titanfall. Desitiny is the bungie team and they're with Activision.

[TylerOO]

well activision is the publisher, who publishes the CoD games (made by infinity ward and treyarch alternating)

bungie is the original developers of halo (who were once owned by microsoft, and split away)

so yes, he is right

It looks pretty cool.

[jaydacris]

$399 !

[Al Thornton]

damn, looks like xbox is fcked. im copping that ps4

[Lebowsky]

399. Shit just got real.

[Qwyjibo]

For $399 I'd be 100% ok with paying for online play.

[Lebowsky]

And btw, if it's 399 dollars and also 399 EUR, we European folks are getting screwed big time.

[Qwyjibo]

Microsoft forcing the Kinect into the X-Bone is going to hurt them. That alone is probably driving their price up.

[Jameerthefear]

Night night M$

[Kungfro]

Microsoft forcing the Kinect into the X-Bone is going to hurt them. That alone is probably driving their price up.

I really feel like it's set up to fail right now, I can't see why anyone would go that route over PS4.

[KG215]

:applause:

Best decision you'll make when it comes to shooters.
Counterstrike or Bad Company? I'm trying to find my next game for the summer now that I'm done with Infinite and 2K13 has grown very stale.


Also, the no restrictions thing for PS4, what's that about? Is that the thing where you can't share games with the new XBOX? My brother just mentioned to me where he thought he heard you can't buy a game and let someone else borrow it because it won't work on their XBOX, but he wasn't 100% sure if that was true.

I've always been a Sony/Playstation guy, so I was probably going to go PS3 anyway, but the $399 price tag just seals the deal.

[Jameerthefear]

For $399 I'd be 100% ok with paying for online play.
As long as it works well yeah definitely.

[Jameerthefear]

As long as it works well yeah definitely.
Not to mention PS+ has tons more content (tons of free games and discounts etc.)

[HEAT111]

For $399 I'd be 100% ok with paying for online play.

Online is still free. The only thing you'd want to pay is PlayStation Plus.

[Jameerthefear]

Online is still free. The only thing you'd want to pay is PlayStation Plus.
No, it's not I don't think

[KG215]

So is 2K14 not going to be released for the PS3?

[jaydacris]

So is 2K14 not going to be released for the PS3?

of course it will

2k14 was showed in the ps4 reveal with lebron james :lol

[Heavincent]

http://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3233/deadh.gif

:roll:

The goofy Asian guy just makes it even better.

[KG215]

of course it will

2k14 was showed in the ps4 reveal with lebron james :lol
That's what I thought, but I just wanted to make sure because there's a couple of people in the main forum saying it's going to be PS4 only.

[Jameerthefear]

http://i.imgur.com/aU3gkVn.png

[konex]

Sony just destroyed Microsoft. $100 cheaper with no DRM, no need to be always online and no restrictions on used games. Yikes!

Microsoft has to backtrack now or they will lose this generation before it starts

[Lebowsky]

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So multiplayer will become a paid service now? That's not gonna sit well. I'm considering saying a big **** you to console gaming already.

[buddha]

So multiplayer will become a paid service now? That's not gonna sit well. I'm considering saying a big **** you to console gaming already.

Meh, I'll just be canceling my xbox live account and buying a PS subscription.

[jaydacris]

i dont think anyone talked about it here... but the division looks damn cool


Though it’s a role-playing game first and foremost, The Division also draws from the hardcore survivalism of Day Z or The Last of Us -- when your sleeper agent awakens, their belongings include just three days of food, water, and supplies. After that, you’re on your own for ammo and weapons, scouring logical locations for the right things. Need ammo? Check the police station -- but odds are its occupied by gangs that run rampant throughout the city. Maybe they’re thugs, desperate scavengers, or the KKK.


Amid the failing of government and rising societal chaos, The Division introduces another element to make matters worse for you and whatever crew you decide to roll with: a man-made pandemic that has “very, very sinister” ramifications on the underlying (and unspecified) story of you trying to restore order. The methods of how you do that vary -- mainline quests will take you to specific places, but in the open New York City, you can opt to help citizens in need, or under attack by those nasty gangs.


open world shooter.. you can walk around with a crew... run into other gangs in the cities.

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[Qwyjibo]

So multiplayer will become a paid service now? That's not gonna sit well. I'm considering saying a big **** you to console gaming already.
Given the $399 price and retaining the ability to play used games, it's a cost that I would be willing to pay. I just wish they were more upfront about it.

It's crazy how " being able to play used games" seems like an extra feature now with physical copies. It should simply be there.

[brandonislegend]

Getting PS4, fk Microsoft!

[EnoughSaid]

So Sony basically ****ed Microsoft in the ass. I mean besides Titanfall, did Microsoft really impress at all? And with Sony getting favorable and exclusive deals with multiplatform and HUGE games like Assassins Creed 4, Watch Dogs and Destiny, along with stellar exclusives and probably the best developers, why would anyone even want an Xbox One? Oh wait, because of Call of Duty right? :lol

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oxRf90LWK9c

So many games I'm excited for though:
InFamous: Second Son
Destiny
2K14
FIFA 14
The Division
Watch Dogs
AC4
Whatever Naughty Dog is doing next

[eriX]

i dont think anyone talked about it here... but the division looks damn cool


open world shooter.. you can walk around with a crew... run into other gangs in the cities.

http://i.minus.com/iLuhfV5mYth1z.gif

i really hope this comes to PC... after all MMORPG is what PC is unrivaled at..

[buddha]

Getting PS4, fk Microsoft!

Thas right

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b6c9ca5c5366afa543074a6c8bb91e9c/tumblr_mo7m8sC2E41r03eaxo1_r1_400.gif

[Rose]

Counterstrike or Bad Company? I'm trying to find my next game for the summer now that I'm done with Infinite and 2K13 has grown very stale.


Also, the no restrictions thing for PS4, what's that about? Is that the thing where you can't share games with the new XBOX? My brother just mentioned to me where he thought he heard you can't buy a game and let someone else borrow it because it won't work on their XBOX, but he wasn't 100% sure if that was true.

I've always been a Sony/Playstation guy, so I was probably going to go PS3 anyway, but the $399 price tag just seals the deal.
Battlefield in general. Battlefield is consistently the best shooter on the market. It's gritty, it's realistic, in short: everything COD isn't.:lol Vehicles, classes that make sense, etc.

Bad Company is most people's preferred Battlefield, but for some reason EA went with Battlefield 4 instead of Bad Company 3.:(

I've barely played counter strike, but it's a nice game. I can't really sad anything good or bad about it I'd need to log in some time.

[Rose]

Poor M$. I genuinely feel bad for them.

The only thing I'm concerned about is if you're a PS+ member now will gaikai stream the ps+ games you already have when it's available? Or do I need to keep my ps3 around.

[KG215]

Battlefield in general. Battlefield is consistently the best shooter on the market. It's gritty, it's realistic, in short: everything COD isn't.:lol Vehicles, classes that make sense, etc.

Bad Company is most people's preferred Battlefield, but for some reason EA went with Battlefield 4 instead of Bad Company 3.:(

I've barely played counter strike, but it's a nice game. I can't really sad anything good or bad about it I'd need to log in some time.
Appreciate it. Would rep if I could.

Rough estimate, how many hours is the campaign in the Bad Company games? I mean were they strictly geared towards online/multi-player? Or are the campaign modes good, too?

[Rose]

Appreciate it. Would rep if I could.

Rough estimate, how many hours is the campaign in the Bad Company games? I mean were they strictly geared towards online/multi-player? Or are the campaign modes good, too?
I never played the first bad company because even though it was like 3-4 years old it was always like $15, and then I lost intrest.

However BC2 I can say the campaign was probably 6-7? hours. I mean it hangs it's hat on multiplayer don't get me wrong. But story wise, and game play wise the campaign was pretty awesome (for a shooter).

[LJJ]

No always online?!


No new DRM?!


399?!

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[ukballer]

Said it in another thread just now, but I've been converted. Not so much Sony winning me over, more Microsoft pushing me away.

NBA 2K14 reveal was sweet, and only pre-alpha too, was impressive.

I can only assume the NBA Live 14 gameplay will be horrible, but honestly? Their little reveal trailer didn't actually look bad graphics wise. Though knowing them, it's probably no more than a cinematic trailer. Either way, I think they've actually fixed the ridiculously small lettering and number on the back of the jerseys.

[Lebowsky]

Given the $399 price and retaining the ability to play used games, it's a cost that I would be willing to pay. I just wish they were more upfront about it.

It's crazy how " being able to play used games" seems like an extra feature now with physical copies. It should simply be there.
Me as well, it's crazy sneaky the only mention about it we've had so far is a couple of small lines of text in a small video mocking Microsoft. I'm not quite alright with it myself, I think they're just doing it out of greed. They had their model, which users liked and which separated them from the competition. They released an optional PS+ (or whatever the name is), which is quite successful. Why change it now and make everyone pay? I don't use online nearly enough to justify paying a subscription, and I'm sure there are many other like me. They are going to make us pay for a service we will barely use, or be rid of our ability to play online. It doesn't feel right to me at all. Furthermore, I can stress enough how badly we Europeans are getting screwed with the price. PS4 will cost the equivalent of 300 EUR in the US, and we'll have to pay 400 EUR here. I like most things I've seen about the device so far, but these two points really upset me.

[LJJ]

Furthermore, I can stress enough how badly we Europeans are getting screwed with the price. PS4 will cost the equivalent of 300 EUR in the US, and we'll have to pay 400 EUR here. I like most things I've seen about the device so far, but these two points really upset me.

Isn't the $399 ex. VAT in the US, while the €399 is inc. VAT in Europe?

Of course, we are still getting screwed, but the US equivalence is €360, not €300.

[Lebowsky]

[QUOTE=LJJ]Isn't the $399 ex. VAT in the US, while the

[Jameerthefear]

Me as well, it's crazy sneaky the only mention about it we've had so far is a couple of small lines of text in a small video mocking Microsoft. I'm not quite alright with it myself, I think they're just doing it out of greed. They had their model, which users liked and which separated them from the competition. They released an optional PS+ (or whatever the name is), which is quite successful. Why change it now and make everyone pay? I don't use online nearly enough to justify paying a subscription, and I'm sure there are many other like me. They are going to make us pay for a service we will barely use, or be rid of our ability to play online. It doesn't feel right to me at all. Furthermore, I can stress enough how badly we Europeans are getting screwed with the price. PS4 will cost the equivalent of 300 EUR in the US, and we'll have to pay 400 EUR here. I like most things I've seen about the device so far, but these two points really upset me.
Think about it like this: The console is $399, you get tons of games to go along with the subscription, and keeping servers up for games isn't cheap. I have no problem paying as long as it is fluid and non-buggy.

[Lebowsky]

Think about it like this: The console is $399, you get tons of games to go along with the subscription, and keeping servers up for games isn't cheap. I have no problem paying as long as it is fluid and non-buggy.
Well yes, I guess I will have to bite the bullet eventually. I abandoned PC gaming in favor of PS a long time ago, and I really don't feel like going back to it.

[Dictator]

PS4 just hit M$ with a haymaker. TKO

[Jameerthefear]

nintendo sucks

[jaydacris]

is wii u still not selling too well? (although i heard wii u sales spiked up after xbox one announcement lol)
i wonder if nintendo will ever have to go down the path of sega.. and not develop a console. obviously keep making handhelds... but become a sole video game developer for consoles.
wishful thinking i guess...


man if i could play some bad ass nintendo games on a ps4... damn id be a happy camper :p

[brandonislegend]

Poor M$. I genuinely feel bad for them.

The only thing I'm concerned about is if you're a PS+ member now will gaikai stream the ps+ games you already have when it's available? Or do I need to keep my ps3 around.

You feel bad for a billion dollar company?

[blablabla]

The Division looks sick.

[The Macho Man]

I'll be getting the Xbox one

[Rose]

You feel bad for a billion dollar company?
Really I feel bad for everyone who works under Ballmer and what he's turned that company into. In probably the next decade they won't even be profitable anymore.

[Rose]

Mildly bummed by Nintendo's presser, but oh well. Wii U is still a fun device, and overall I can't really complain about buying one except lack of games but those are coming.

[jaydacris]

ps4 hard drive is removable and upgradeable..... niiicccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Lebowsky]

ps4 hard drive is removable and upgradeable..... niiicccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
source?

[Kungfro]

Please at least mention The Last Guardian. Even just acknowledge its existence.

They just acknowledged that the project is on hiatus, probably not what you want to hear.

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/54440/the-last-guardian-is-on-hiatus

[jaydacris]

source?

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-playstation-4-hard-drive-is-removable-upgradable

[Kungfro]

source?

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/54410/ps4s-hard-drive-can-be-upgraded-like-ps3

[LJJ]

Mildly bummed by Nintendo's presser, but oh well. Wii U is still a fun device, and overall I can't really complain about buying one except lack of games but those are coming.

Yeah me too.

If you look at the list of games it's actually pretty nice:

3 (!!!) new Mario platformers
A new Zelda
An old Zelda
Mario Kart
Smash Bros
Donkey Kong
Shin Megami Tensei 4
Bayonetta
Pikmin

But none of it was too exciting. Especially on Wii-U they really could have used that one big new title that shows everyone that there is a reason to own the system, but they flaked out on that.

[Lebowsky]

Nice, thanks guys. I doubt I would ever fill 500 GB, but it's still a nice option to have.

[Qwyjibo]

They just acknowledged that the project is on hiatus, probably not what you want to hear.

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/54440/the-last-guardian-is-on-hiatus
To me that means it's probably dead. I assume re-doing this game for the PS4 would be a massive amount of work. So if they don't get it out for the PS3 in these next couple "transition" years, it's never going to happen. Shame.

[CelticBaller]

Sony is smart for charging people to play online, maybe know they can afford more exclusives

[Kungfro]

Nintendo is adding the wii fit trainer to Super Smash Bros. I don't even now what to think of that. :oldlol:

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/88lqxl/super-smash-bros--e3-2013--wii-fit-trainer-reveal--cam-

[CelticBaller]

Nintendo is dead

[Kungfro]

As long as Nintendo keeps supporting the 3ds as well as they have been I'm happy.

[Qwyjibo]

The main thing in question for me now is how many current gen peripherals (if any?) will be compatible with the PS4.

I have a fightstick, DFGT wheel and the Pulse headset. I don't expect the fightstick to carry over to next gen but it would suck if the other two don't either.

[Draz]

Yep.

Sony has done a complete 180

More like "Sony has done a complete 360"

get it?

get it??

:roll:

[Rose]

Yeah me too.

If you look at the list of games it's actually pretty nice:

3 (!!!) new Mario platformers
A new Zelda
An old Zelda
Mario Kart
Smash Bros
Donkey Kong
Shin Megami Tensei 4
Bayonetta
Pikmin

But none of it was too exciting. Especially on Wii-U they really could have used that one big new title that shows everyone that there is a reason to own the system, but they flaked out on that.
I like Mario, don't get me wrong, but he's not the console mover for me. I'm way more into Zelda. And I LOVE the Mario game for 3DS, but if that's a straight port to wii u for multiplayer, I'm majorly bummed by that.

I liked windwaker, but if I'm getting a remake from gamecube I want Super Mario Sunshine goddammit. I get why they're redoing it for the levels they left out etc. But meh.

I love mario kart, Pikmon, I love what the studio for the new DK did for Metroid so I have HIGH expectations there, but I'm not a big DK guy.

And of course I love Pikmin, smash bros, kart. It's just kinda like you said no big HEY YOU HAVE TO BUY THIS SYSTEM FOR THIS. type thing.

[CelticBaller]

As long as Nintendo keeps supporting the 3ds as well as they have been I'm happy.
I agree on that, give me more 3Ds games

[clipse026]

Where's my Persona 5 :cry:

[Brujesino]

so no price cut for the wii u?

[jaydacris]

pretty cool tech demo of the ps4 eye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpCdtjTrAo

[jaydacris]

detailed information on UFC game

http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11120:we-were-shown-ea-ufc-behind-closed-doors-at-e3-and-this-is-everything-we-can-tell-you&catid=34:organizations



No more floating hands. When you take someone down in EA UFC, you actually grab them, and the collision between two human bodies is obvious. The transitions and the way the bodies react to the impact is truly, truly next gen. If anyone follows me on Twitter, you know I've been begging for next gen gameplay, and not just graphics -- this is next gen gameplay. This is two bodies reacting to each other, not just two characters on screen with the same simple set of actions and reactions ready to trigger the next canned animation.


The footwork: No more ice skating! It was the big complaint of EA MMA, and UFC 3 did a good job of trying to fix it, but with the Ignite engine, every step is planted firmly on the mat. Weight is thrown behind the punches, and the fight is more realistic because of it. As Duke, the EA UFC PR dude told us, imagine throwing teep kicks and distance creating strikes that are actually there simply to keep another fighter at bay. I can't begin to tell you how impressive the footwork alone is.


The cage is fully animated and bends and reacts to every situation.


The blood and facial damage... My GOD the blood and facial damage. They showed a set of five or so fighters post-fight and beat up as hell next to each other, and I'm being 100% honest when I say this: The only reason I could tell a certain fighter picture was not real because I know this certain fighter has never been beat up to the degree he was shown here. So in other words, the damage is simply unbelievably amazing. Picture perfect. You can almost push in the blood and fluid gathering underneath a fighter's eye, it looked so real. Brian explained that the damage is now 3D in nature, and is no longer treated like a hitbox, where a little cut opens, and then opens more, and you see the same blood or damage over and over. This is some serious stuff. Small bumps, hematomas, swelling of the face, black eyes and cuts are all picture perfect and look so, so real. Even at this pre alpha stage. Imagine the best possible damage effects in a fighting game ever. That's what you have here. And the coolest thing, as Brian said, it's all random, like a real fight. If you get taken down in the first 20 seconds and take a sharp elbow to the head, 1 strike can be the difference between you and a pool of blood.


The AI is much smarter apparently, with it reacting in real time to the challenges you present it. No longer will a wrestler simply spam takedowns. It's a dogfight now. And your opponent thinks.


OK, the real time body deformation. We were shown a picture of a fighter in a body triangle as someone worked in a rear naked choke on their back. Then we were shown this in EA MMA and it's 'floaty-ness' was obvious. Then we saw it in EA UFC. Alright, so the stomach of the dude who is getting body triangled, is getting pushed in. His neck veins are bulging and he's straining to get free. All of this is happening in real time, and their bodies are reacting accordingly. This is extremely hard to explain as far as how impressive it was, but trust me; it's really impressive.


Submissions are HUD free right now, and it's gotten way more realistic. It seemed to me that EA MMA and UFC 3 would probably be the high watermark for submission systems, then EA UFC goes and blows those out of the water with something so intricate and simple, it was a true derp moment. As Brian explained, one doesn't simply press a button and attempt a submission, it's worked for. You inch your way into the submission. So take that real time deformation that I wrote about above into account here: as you are sinking in a rear naked choke for example, your opponent's face is going to turn red, as he stuggles to breath. He's going to eventually turn purple as he gasps for air, and I cannot stress this enough: It looks incredible.




for a very early build... this sounds pretty damn awesome!

[Kungfro]

Giantbomb doing their live show right now.

http://www.giantbomb.com/chat/

[Jameerthefear]

M$ fails again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzmVcasl3ZU

[ukballer]

The new Pokemon X and Y games for the 3DS look pretty cool. 3DS games aren't in too bad shape considering how cool they looked in the trailers.

[brandonislegend]

M$ fails again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzmVcasl3ZU

Wow. Is this real life.

[Kungfro]

Here's a list of confirmed next-gen titles and exclusives.

[quote]Only on Xbox One (14 games)

[GOBB]

Thanks for that post kung.

I'm liking the Ryse: Son of Rome game :bowdown:

[intrinsic]

[QUOTE]

[LJJ]

Thanks for that post kung.

I'm liking the Ryse: Son of Rome game :bowdown:

It's a game developed for Xbox 360 Kinect, reworked to be an Xbox One launch game. It's going to be terrible.

Titanfall is were it's at.

[Rose]

It's a game developed for Xbox 360 Kinect, reworked to be an Xbox One launch game. It's going to be terrible.

Titanfall is were it's at.
Agreed. No block button ffs.:facepalm

[GOBB]

It's a game developed for Xbox 360 Kinect, reworked to be an Xbox One launch game. It's going to be terrible.

Titanfall is were it's at.

Kinect? So its not going to be a regular game? Kind of lost, excuse me for being slow.

[Rose]

Kinect? So its not going to be a regular game? Kind of lost, excuse me for being slow.
It was originally developed for the Kinect (360 version) then they decided to postpone it and make it for the xbox one. And the controls were originally going to heavily favor the kinect. I don't know what it is now more Kinect based or controller based but yeah.

[Scholar]

M$ fails again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzmVcasl3ZU

The vid isn't available any more because of a copyright claim.

What was the vid about?

[Jameerthefear]

The vid isn't available any more because of a copyright claim.

What was the vid about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DxkEe_l7S3g

[GOBB]

How significant are the graphics when comparing xbox 360 to xbox one?

I ask because the one game I'm concerned of is GTA 5.

Are there side by side video releases you can see and tell the difference?

[LongLiveTheKing]

How significant are the graphics when comparing xbox 360 to xbox one?

I ask because the one game I'm concerned of is GTA 5.

Are there side by side video releases you can see and tell the difference?
GTAV hasn't been confirmed for next-gen but they delay of the game lead people to believe it will be announced for PS4 and X1.

[crisoner]

I'll post some of my E3 pics to share with you guys soon.

Anyone else here go to it?

[Nevaeh]

GTAV hasn't been confirmed for next-gen but they delay of the game lead people to believe it will be announced for PS4 and X1.

I thought it was kinda strange also that they'd time the game's release so close to a new system launch like that. All it's gonna do is cause peeps to imagine "what could have been", performance wise, if they don't move it over.

[rhythmic]

So disappointed Uncharted 4 wasn't announced.