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STATUTORY
06-11-2013, 09:16 PM
Lebron completely invisible

he must be waiting for his team to be up by 20 before taking over :roll: :roll:

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 09:17 PM
Delete this someone please.

Psycho
06-11-2013, 09:17 PM
Lebron has gotten Bosh like 3 wide open shots and he bricks them all :facepalm

Psycho
06-11-2013, 09:18 PM
Delete this someone please.

Someone delete this Pedo's account.

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 09:22 PM
Someone delete this Pedo's account.
What...?

WWRWestbrookDo?
06-11-2013, 09:23 PM
Lebron completely invisible

he must be waiting for his team to be up by 20 before taking over :roll: :roll:

you got too much time on your hands to just troll all day

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 09:26 PM
you got too much time on your hands to just troll all day
Did you get your name changed? This is the first time I've seen you post.

Psycho
06-11-2013, 09:26 PM
What...?

Check ur avy pedo.

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 09:27 PM
Check ur avy pedo.
It's an anime... and I'm 15 years old douchebag

Kblaze8855
06-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Tell you what....they lose or Lebron somehow has a game worth mocking....ill unlock this so you can have your fun. For now...game topic.

Fair enough?

DMV2
06-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Check ur avy pedo.
I think he's a high school freshman or sophomore, so he couldn't be one. :lol

CelticBaller
06-11-2013, 09:29 PM
Hater

Psycho
06-11-2013, 09:29 PM
It's an anime... and I'm 15 years old douchebag

Oh really? Cool. Is this you in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utnb5Mru_zo

Enjoy your cartoons nerd.

DMV2
06-11-2013, 10:13 PM
So LeBron is basically a hybrid of a sophomore Jimmy Buckets, injury-proned Hinrich and Taj Gibson(third stringer behind Noah and Boozer) with a decent jumper. :lol

He's actually OVERPAID at $17 and a half mill a year.

Kblaze8855
06-11-2013, 10:14 PM
Got a PM from the OP....ill just say...

Enjoy for halftime. just keep it contained if you dont mind. There are gonna be soooooooo many of these tonight.

WWRWestbrookDo?
06-11-2013, 10:15 PM
Did you get your name changed? This is the first time I've seen you post.

whatchu talkin bout willis

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 10:16 PM
Oh really? Cool. Is this you in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utnb5Mru_zo

Enjoy your cartoons nerd.
You wish.

#number6ix#
06-11-2013, 10:16 PM
True for this series... False career wise... At some point he has to say fcuk it and just stop thinking and play ball

Twiens
06-11-2013, 10:17 PM
Shawn Marion on steroids

ripthekik
06-11-2013, 10:18 PM
the other thread's title was better. But I'll take any open thread.

Seriously. Where would this guy be without a stacked team if he shows up like this every playoffs with no one else to bail him out?? ridiculous

chips93
06-11-2013, 10:22 PM
this the same guy who dominated last year to win a title, and is averaging 17, 13, and 8 in the current finals?

people have short memories

Kblaze8855
06-11-2013, 10:26 PM
This is what im gonna do....

Long as its in this topic....do whatever the hell you want short of something clearly bannable(you know the kind of things I mean).

I dont care.

I just dont feel like reading 65 Lebron topics before bed knowing 40 are garbage and 20 of the decent ones should just be a post in another topic.

I understand its the finals and the Heat/Lebron are going to be the story no matter what.

But making 20 Lebron topics that get deleted just for the sake of not having 30 on one page all saying the same thing? Doesnt get your point out.

Contain it here...I dont care what you have to say.

Im not going to delete every topic outside the game topic.... Ijust...think we can keep it under 10.

10 Lebron topics at once.

That seems fair.

Make this the primary hating one if you dont mind and you wont hear from me again.

K Xerxes
06-11-2013, 10:28 PM
This is what im gonna do....

Long as its in this topic....do whatever the hell you want short of something clearly bannable(you know the kind of things I mean).

I dont care.

I just dont feel like reading 65 Lebron topics before bed knowing 40 are garbage and 20 of the decent ones should just be a post in another topic.

I understand its the finals and the Heat/Lebron are going to be the story no matter what.

But making 20 Lebron topics that get deleted just for the sake of not having 30 on one page all saying the same thing? Doesnt get your point out.

Contain it here...I dont care what you have to say.

Im not going to delete every topic outside the game topic.... Ijust...think we can keep it under 10.

10 Lebron topics at once.

That seems fair.

Make this the primary hating one if you dont mind and you wont hear from me again.

You should consider making a 'LeBron hate' thread and sticky it. Merge all of the troll threads into there.

Derka
06-11-2013, 10:32 PM
Danny Green is in the f*cking ether, y'all.

Edit: And I am in the wrong thread.

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 10:33 PM
This is what im gonna do....

Long as its in this topic....do whatever the hell you want short of something clearly bannable(you know the kind of things I mean).

I dont care.

I just dont feel like reading 65 Lebron topics before bed knowing 40 are garbage and 20 of the decent ones should just be a post in another topic.

I understand its the finals and the Heat/Lebron are going to be the story no matter what.

But making 20 Lebron topics that get deleted just for the sake of not having 30 on one page all saying the same thing? Doesnt get your point out.

Contain it here...I dont care what you have to say.

Im not going to delete every topic outside the game topic.... Ijust...think we can keep it under 10.

10 Lebron topics at once.

That seems fair.

Make this the primary hating one if you dont mind and you wont hear from me again.
Thanks. Good moderation.

Screamingdoom
06-11-2013, 10:35 PM
I can't defend him anymore. He's mentally weak simple as taht

ripthekik
06-11-2013, 10:36 PM
This is what im gonna do....

Long as its in this topic....do whatever the hell you want short of something clearly bannable(you know the kind of things I mean).

I dont care.

I just dont feel like reading 65 Lebron topics before bed knowing 40 are garbage and 20 of the decent ones should just be a post in another topic.

I understand its the finals and the Heat/Lebron are going to be the story no matter what.

But making 20 Lebron topics that get deleted just for the sake of not having 30 on one page all saying the same thing? Doesnt get your point out.

Contain it here...I dont care what you have to say.

Im not going to delete every topic outside the game topic.... Ijust...think we can keep it under 10.

10 Lebron topics at once.

That seems fair.

Make this the primary hating one if you dont mind and you wont hear from me again.
Good stuff kblaze. I can respect this.

DMV2
06-11-2013, 10:37 PM
this the same guy who dominated last year to win a title, and is averaging 17, 13, and 8 in the current finals?

people have short memories
2 games, his rebound will drop to around 8-9 eventually.

He's getting paid to be a superstar. 17 PPG isn't superstar numbers.

I'd rather see 25+/5/5 than 17/9/8. The number he's posting up is pretty much Prime Kidd numbers. Kidd was a great player but he never made got $42 million a year in endorsement money. He was never marketed as the best player in the league like LeBron is.

lebeast666
06-11-2013, 10:37 PM
I can't defend him anymore. He's mentally weak simple as taht

This.

I thought getting the first ring would solve everything :oldlol: guess not.

http://blog.benmarkets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Reggie-Miller-Choke.jpg

The Macho Man
06-11-2013, 10:39 PM
Lebron hates Texas so much

ripthekik
06-11-2013, 10:43 PM
lebron continues to pass even though he has a wide open look with the defender 2 feet away :roll: :roll: :roll:

Kobr
06-11-2013, 10:45 PM
Getting carried by Mike Miller. :lol

jzek
06-11-2013, 10:45 PM
I thought he said something like he's 50x better than he was in 2007 when the first met the Spurs in the Finals? Looks like he's regressed 50 levels back...

DMV2
06-11-2013, 10:46 PM
I thought Kobe was the worst Finals superstar performer I've ever seen but LeBron has already top that with 2007, 2011 and possibly 2013.

I thought Kobe was the most overrated, overhyped player and that nobody would top him on those categories but LeBron is about to top that as well.

Derka
06-11-2013, 10:47 PM
He's having a bad game. ISH, predictably, goes into meltdown when he does this.

PickernRoller
06-11-2013, 10:48 PM
lebron continues to pass even though he has a wide open look with the defender 2 feet away :roll: :roll: :roll:

He doesn't trust his shot. Being saying he's deficient in this area for years and people say I am a troll.

I was trolling yesterday too...:facepalm

I got nothing against Lebron and his fans as long as they don't claim he is a top 10 all-time great caliber player. Top 15 I agree. But definitely not Top 10, much less Top 5. Those players in that elite group as miles better - just as simple. It's not just about the stats. Stats =/= basketball.

Screamingdoom
06-11-2013, 10:48 PM
This.

I thought getting the first ring would solve everything :oldlol: guess not.



Yep I thought so too. I just don't know what he's afraid of.

WWRWestbrookDo?
06-11-2013, 10:48 PM
this the same guy who dominated last year to win a title, and is averaging 17, 13, and 8 in the current finals?

people have short memories

ISH is always about what you did today not last year :confusedshrug:

Blackisbig
06-11-2013, 10:49 PM
this the same guy who dominated last year to win a title, and is averaging 17, 13, and 8 in the current finals?

people have short memories



He didn't dominate last year. Durant outplayed him, and Lebron's percentages dropped across the board.

ripthekik
06-11-2013, 10:49 PM
James said Wednesday he's long waited for the chance to get back at the Spurs for how they beat him in the 2007 Finals, handily sweeping James' inexperienced Cleveland Cavaliers team.

"I have something in me that they took in '07; beat us on our home floor, celebrated on our home floor," James said. "I won't forget that. You shouldn't as a competitor. You should never forget that.

"It's the same group of guys, for the most part. The same Big Three, and Coach [Gregg] Pop[ovich]. And I look forward to the challenge once again.

James said if the Spurs attempt the same game plan this season as they did in 2007 -- which included leaving James open on pick-and-rolls by going "under" the screens -- he will make them pay.

"If you go into my pick-and-roll now, I'm going to shoot. And I'm confident I'm going to make every last one of them," James said. "I'm a better player and you can't dare me to do anything I don't want to do in 2013."

:applause: :roll: :roll:

DMV2
06-11-2013, 10:50 PM
He's having a bad game. ISH, predictably, goes into meltdown when he does this.
Bad game? more like a terrible series.

Game 1 - choked in the 4th quarter
Game 2 - didn't show up until 3.5 minutes after the 4th quarter when his team already has a double digit lead.

Now this showing tonight.

He has yet to play great on consecutive quarters. Not even asking for one great game. One great half is all we're asking for.

PickernRoller
06-11-2013, 10:50 PM
He's having a bad game. ISH, predictably, goes into meltdown when he does this.

2 more at home - that makes it 3. 2007 Finals series - well, that makes it a whole series. 2011 - well you know the story.

How about you go to the doctor and fix your eyes.

Screamingdoom
06-11-2013, 10:50 PM
He's having a bad game. ISH, predictably, goes into meltdown when he does this.

3 bad games in a row on the biggest stage by a person who has a history of chocking in these situations? This is more than just your average bad game. This is caused by a highly fragile mind.

CelticBaller
06-11-2013, 10:50 PM
I can't believe I cheer for this shitty franchise because of that bum

Leftimage
06-11-2013, 10:51 PM
Nothing to say about Lebron's performance so far other than it sucks horribly.

But seeing people get off like jackals at his failure is kind of disturbing. Is it because he is the best ? Is it the decision?

I just don't get it. It's not like he's an asshole.

Trollsmasher
06-11-2013, 10:52 PM
Easily the worst Finals performance of all time.

Just pathetic, laughable, sad, nonsensical and other million of adjectives.

I just don't get him anymore. Makes no fkin sense to play like this.

Destryoing legacy in front of our eyes.

Derka
06-11-2013, 10:54 PM
3 bad games in a row on the biggest stage by a person who has a history of chocking in these situations? This is more than just your average bad game. This is caused by a highly fragile mind.

Oh, I agree completely that he's mentally weak. Hell, I think he's a frontrunner. Throw some adversity in his face out on the floor and he shrinks like a scrotum in a cold breeze.

But it's still hilarious that ISH melts down every time this happens :lol

ashlar
06-11-2013, 10:54 PM
Oh really? Cool. Is this you in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utnb5Mru_zo

Enjoy your cartoons nerd.

He is 15 watching stuff targeted at his age range. You are after a 6'8" 270 lb grown ass man's *****. Which one do you think is worse?

Skip Bayless
06-11-2013, 10:55 PM
I honestly want him to turn it around here, this is to pathetic to criticize.:facepalm

b1imtf
06-11-2013, 10:55 PM
He's playing really well

Kews1
06-11-2013, 10:56 PM
Hes playing like a joke, needs to step the **** up.

Screamingdoom
06-11-2013, 10:56 PM
Nothing to say about Lebron's performance so far other than it sucks horribly.

But seeing people get off like jackals at his failure is kind of disturbing. Is it because he is the best ? Is it the decision?

I just don't get it. It's not like he's an asshole.

I'm angry at him because I want him to do well. I want him to play like he did against Indiana or against OKC last year. But it's just miserable right now.

Indian guy
06-11-2013, 10:56 PM
LeBron has played the right way today. Problem is, his jumper has deserted him at the worst possible time and the way SA guards him, jumpers are the only way he can score.

tpols
06-11-2013, 10:57 PM
Felt bad last game.. saw the frontrunning and said fvck it.

CelticBaller
06-11-2013, 10:57 PM
They guy is soft as a pillow, he deserves it

kentatm
06-11-2013, 10:59 PM
So LeBron is basically a hybrid of a sophomore Jimmy Buckets, injury-proned Hinrich and Taj Gibson(third stringer behind Noah and Boozer) with a decent jumper. :lol

He's actually OVERPAID at $17 and a half mill a year.

no, he is more gifted in scoring, less skilled in passing version of Magic Johnson.

Leftimage
06-11-2013, 11:00 PM
And just like that.... LBJ is back.

Lebron did exactly what Kobe stans applaud about their player. Shot through his funk.

Will the haters recognize?

Doctor Rivers
06-11-2013, 11:00 PM
bet you lebron score 30 in this quarter

Deuce Bigalow
06-11-2013, 11:00 PM
Lebron's stats again are going to look so much better than what they were when the game was close :oldlol:

7-16 in game 1
3-13 in game 2 before blowout
2-13 in game 3 before blowout

Leftimage
06-11-2013, 11:01 PM
Lebron's stats again are going to look so much better than what they were when the game was close :oldlol:

7-16 in game 1
3-13 in game 2 before blowout
2-13 in game 3 before blowout

Blowout? I bet you wish this game ended after 3 quarters. hahahah enjoy biting your nails for the next 12 minutes.

Graviton
06-11-2013, 11:01 PM
Pauk nowhere to be found, I wonder what excuses will he make. Probably gonna blame Wade and Bosh for Lebron sucking. :oldlol:

Kblaze8855
06-11-2013, 11:01 PM
As there is no real information here and its just a brief bit of hate probably best left in a game topic....


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303323

PickernRoller
06-11-2013, 11:02 PM
LeBron has played the right way today. Problem is, his jumper has deserted him at the worst possible time and the way SA guards him, jumpers are the only way he can score.

You can't expect the Spurs to leave open lanes against Lebron. Suicide.

PickernRoller
06-11-2013, 11:03 PM
Pauk nowhere to be found, I wonder what excuses will he make. Probably gonna blame Wade and Bosh for Lebron sucking. :oldlol:

Like he did in 11. Lol Pauk has no credibility in this forum, none.

STATUTORY
06-11-2013, 11:03 PM
defended by thiago? bricks a 3 pointer :roll:

defender gives him space? too scared to take a shot :roll:

Bosh keeping them in the game

no ISO game superstar right here

andgar923
06-11-2013, 11:03 PM
Ya'll thought I was an idiot when I stated rookie MJ>>> Bron :rolleyes:

Not that this series is over, but there's no way rookie MJ plays like this. He looks confused, forget the stats, he's not there mentally. He looks lost, he doesn't know what to do, who to please. MJ just wanted to win and did whatever the f*ck he wanted to win. At the very least he went hard.

But aside from that.

They're giving him wide open jumpers

bluechox2
06-11-2013, 11:04 PM
"when i do more, i still lose"

Deuce Bigalow
06-11-2013, 11:05 PM
Blowout? I bet you wish this game ended after 3 quarters. hahahah enjoy biting your nails for the next 12 minutes.
:oldlol:

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 11:06 PM
Blowout? I bet you wish this game ended after 3 quarters. hahahah enjoy biting your nails for the next 12 minutes.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 11:07 PM
He is 15 watching stuff targeted at his age range. You are after a 6'8" 270 lb grown ass man's *****. Which one do you think is worse?
:applause:

PickernRoller
06-11-2013, 11:08 PM
Blowout? I bet you wish this game ended after 3 quarters. hahahah enjoy biting your nails for the next 12 minutes.

ummmm :roll: :roll: :roll:

DMV2
06-11-2013, 11:08 PM
This is like 2011 Finals all over again. He's getting owned by non-All-Stars. Leonard has potential to be an All-Star but Green is just a 3-point shooter and Neal is at best a 6th Man candidate.

Leftimage
06-11-2013, 11:08 PM
:oldlol:

haha **** you and **** Gary Neal.

Come on Bron!

Trollsmasher
06-11-2013, 11:08 PM
Blowout? I bet you wish this game ended after 3 quarters. hahahah enjoy biting your nails for the next 12 minutes.
fk**in jinx:facepalm

CelticBaller
06-11-2013, 11:08 PM
Blowout? I bet you wish this game ended after 3 quarters. hahahah enjoy biting your nails for the next 12 minutes.
:facepalm

TheBigVeto
06-11-2013, 11:11 PM
Lebron completely invisible

he must be waiting for his team to be up by 20 before taking over :roll: :roll:

Sounds like Kobe.

Nebraskanball
06-11-2013, 11:12 PM
hahahahahahahahah

Nebraskanball
06-11-2013, 11:13 PM
Sounds like Kobe.
LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU.

jzek
06-11-2013, 11:14 PM
Dallas series all over again! :facepalm

STATUTORY
06-11-2013, 11:14 PM
LEBRON DPOY?!

GARY NEAL CAREER HIGH!!

Learn something from this lebron stans.

we told u for years that ur boy had no reliable iso game and u just pointed to FG%.

:roll:

alexd
06-11-2013, 11:15 PM
personally i blame the coach more than lebron. see spurs they move the ball they set screens.on the other hand miami has become cleveland..give the ball to lebron and let him do everything.everyone just stands there and they expect pass from lebron to shoot.
btw wtf has happened to wade?he s completely useless
thumbs up for mike miller and danny green :applause:

The Real JW
06-11-2013, 11:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oFPck7Pl.png

someone edit this

OhNoTimNoSho
06-11-2013, 11:19 PM
honestly im not a hater of anyone in any shape or form, but lebron is so incredibly pathetic that he deserves this. His mental softness is just amazing to me. Hes about as confident in himself as a 16 year old computer nerd. I recognize what hes going through, I went through the same thing the first time i played in an organized bball league. I got over it after about 6 games.

Psycho
06-11-2013, 11:22 PM
He is 15 watching stuff targeted at his age range. You are after a 6'8" 270 lb grown ass man's *****. Which one do you think is worse?

I am 14 but I still don't watch stuff for nerds.

LosScandalous
06-11-2013, 11:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rNcx45z.jpg

LosScandalous
06-11-2013, 11:39 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rNcx45z.jpg

Jacks3
06-11-2013, 11:39 PM
Best player in the world is being guarded like Rondo and he's scared to shoot.

Absolutely extraordinarily.

ashlar
06-11-2013, 11:39 PM
I am 14 but I still don't watch stuff for nerds.

Explains a lot. You still didn't deny are after his *****.

DMV2
06-11-2013, 11:41 PM
Lebron's stats again are going to look so much better than what they were when the game was close :oldlol:

7-16 in game 1
3-13 in game 2 before blowout
2-13 in game 3 before blowout
LMAO...you didn't even have to change Game 3's numbers.

Game 1 - Choked in the 4th
Game 2 - No show until 8 minute mark in the 4th.
Game 3 - Only showed up to score 9-points to close out the 3rd quarter.

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 11:42 PM
I am 14 but I still don't watch stuff for nerds.
So what? I'm on Varsity track team and XC, have a 4.0 GPA, and have a lot of friends. What does it say about you who has to insult someone on an internet message board to feel good about yourself? Not anything good since you also spend your life trolling on here.

Psycho
06-11-2013, 11:42 PM
Explains a lot. You still didn't deny are after his *****.

I would love if Lebron gave me a good tumble. Call me Lebron ;)

chazzy
06-11-2013, 11:45 PM
What was that stat in 2011 about the biggest drop off in PPG from the reg season to finals? Is he going to break his record?

Psycho
06-11-2013, 11:45 PM
So what? I'm on Varsity track team and XC, have a 4.0 GPA, and have a lot of friends. What does it say about you who has to insult someone on an internet message board to feel good about yourself? Not anything good since you also spend your life trolling on here.

C-c-could you make fun of me more? I-i-it's not like I want you to or anything! B-baka!

ReturnofJPR
06-11-2013, 11:48 PM
I feel like LeBron is a crack baby is an athletic freak but a mental midget & unless he has cocaine run-through his veins, he will never be the same...

bluechox2
06-11-2013, 11:50 PM
lebron needs to make like kobe and demand his teammates to get traded for more help

talkingconch
06-11-2013, 11:51 PM
whoever said that lebron was a frontrunner was right

so much for ''willing'' his team to victory


lebron needs to make like kobe and demand his teammates to get traded for more help

5 rings hahaha

chazzy
06-11-2013, 11:52 PM
Biggest drop in efficiency in finals history?

Lebron in the regular season: 64 TS%

In the finals so far?.. 44.6 TS%. Good god

NBASTATMAN
06-11-2013, 11:53 PM
Lebron is too soft mentally.. Cuz his jump shot is good.. He is just SCURRED.. :roll:

Wade has been horrible on defense and offense..

Bosh has been the best of the three IMO

DMV2
06-11-2013, 11:53 PM
What was that stat in 2011 about the biggest drop off in PPG from the reg season to finals? Is he going to break his record?
minus 8.9 in 2011 Finals.

Current series 16.7 PPG (26.8 reg season). That's minus 10.1 drop off.

:roll:

ReturnofJPR
06-11-2013, 11:53 PM
Biggest drop in efficiency in finals history?

Lebron in the regular season: 64 TS%

In the finals so far?.. 44.6 TS%. Good god

Pathetic.

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 11:53 PM
C-c-could you make fun of me more? I-i-it's not like I want you to or anything! B-baka!
I guess you got my attention with your bad trolling. Bet that will make your week though, right? We all know you've got nothing else going on :lol

Raymone
06-11-2013, 11:55 PM
Keep thinking this loss has anything to do with LeBron, idiots.

Just like 2007 and 2011, it's 99% his teammates' fault.

chazzy
06-11-2013, 11:55 PM
One last Bron stat: LeBron is shooting 52/211 (24.6%) outside the restricted area through 18 career NBA Finals games.

MaxFly
06-11-2013, 11:57 PM
Blowout? I bet you wish this game ended after 3 quarters. hahahah enjoy biting your nails for the next 12 minutes.

Good call.

Jameerthefear
06-11-2013, 11:58 PM
Good call.
I'm still laughing at that

BlackVVaves
06-12-2013, 12:00 AM
Miami will probably still win the chip, Lebron will probably still win the FMVP.

But, this performance will stink up the year he was having a great deal. And, for the amount of grief ISH's local Lebron worshipping community gives Kobe for his Final's performances, he'll deserve it. Fair is fair....he may be the best player in the league, but no one is excused from the type of performance he is giving.

dynasty1978
06-12-2013, 12:00 AM
One last Bron stat: LeBron is shooting 52/211 (24.6%) outside the restricted area through 18 career NBA Finals games.

:durantunimpressed:

LongLiveTheKing
06-12-2013, 12:01 AM
Enjoy it now wait till the real Lebron and the Heat show up next game.

SamuraiSWISH
06-12-2013, 12:01 AM
LeBitch made RETURNS ... 2007, 2010, 2011 and now 2013. Figures, one game I guess wasn't indicative of a change in his character. He's still shook, and passive as ever. LMAO @ these clowns who dared compare him to Mike. Guy has been utterly pathetic all series long. And if a LeBron stan dare say fatigue, they need to be banned from ISH. He's played like a WNBA role player the past two games. Embarrassing as a fan of the game.

coin24
06-12-2013, 12:04 AM
What an epic performance:lol Where are all the LeBron stans? Whats the excuse for this game????
Focusing on his screens and passing?:roll:

I cant believe retards compare this guy to Jordan. He has no business being anywhere near the top10 All time..

ReturnofJPR
06-12-2013, 12:05 AM
One last Bron stat: LeBron is shooting 52/211 (24.6%) outside the restricted area through 18 career NBA Finals games.

Pathetic.

Heavincent
06-12-2013, 12:06 AM
Through 3 games:

Danny Green - 18 PPG on 63% shooting
Lebron James - 17 PPG on 39% shooting

Just shocking. Seriously.

coin24
06-12-2013, 12:07 AM
Enjoy it now wait till the real Lebron and the Heat show up next game.

Judging by his whole career in the finals and clutch moments, this is the real LeBron. 2012 was a fluke, probably due to the Thunders shitty coaching letting Bronzey barrell in for layups all game:lol :facepalm

SamuraiSWISH
06-12-2013, 12:09 AM
What an epic performance:lol Where are all the LeBron stans? Whats the excuse for this game????
Focusing on his screens and passing?:roll:

I cant believe retards compare this guy to Jordan. He has no business being anywhere near the top10 All time..
He's just built in that Oscar Robertson, do everything but be a career loser type of mode. Jack of all trades, master of none. That's why he gets shook in high pressure situation, not a lot of go to moves and skills to dominate with scoring from mid range where you kill teams with better defenses in the higher intensity of the playoffs.

STATUTORY
06-12-2013, 12:10 AM
He's just built in that Oscar Robertson, do everything but be a career loser type of mode. Jack of all trades, master of none. That's why he gets shook in high pressure situation, not a lot of go to moves and skills to dominate with scoring from mid range where you kill teams with better defenses in the higher intensity of the playoffs.

his insecurity about his lack of offensive moves is manifested in his passive approach. the ni99uh is stragiht SHOOK, he knows he's got no clothes and he's scared to death that others are catching on.

SamuraiSWISH
06-12-2013, 12:13 AM
his insecurity about his lack of offensive moves is manifested in his passive approach. the ni99uh is stragiht SHOOK, he knows he's got no clothes and he's scared to death that others are catching on.
That's why I said in the more physical defensive era before he even entered the league pre 2005, he'd be even worse. You could body him and be physical. He'd have no first step to get around people, and his ISO scoring skills are very weak compared to the MJ, Kobe, Durant, Melo, hell even Wade's of the world.

Straight_Ballin
06-12-2013, 12:17 AM
Have we ever seen a player of this caliber act like such a deer in headlights?! HOW MANY times are we going to try and give this guy a free pass? When it matters most, this guy is a ghost.

Bernie Nips
06-12-2013, 12:19 AM
I'm a LeBron fan, but that could have been a career killing game.

He was on his way to top 5, maybe even surpassing Bird as the best Small Forward ever.

But that was disgusting.

I was on the fence about whether he was a player that was scared of the Finals.

2007 doesn't count - the fact he made the Finals was an achievement in itself that year.

2011 was a player cracking the sads when things weren't going his way.

2012 showed he could light it up on the big stage when he had the confidence.

But this series, this game... I'm sick of seeing him spend the first 8 minutes of every game trying to "set up" Bosh and Wade, to "get them going". It's horse shit.

He needs to come out scoring straight off the bat - to RELIEVE the pressure from Wade and Bosh needing to score. That would help their games so much more than what he is doing. The reason he won't do it seems to be because he's scared that he can't kick into scoring mode that early. He takes the easy option - set up others and if they fail, it's not his fault.

I don't care if he's a "team player". He's the best damn player on the planet, but as soon as he hits Finals pressure, he wilts away.

It's the missing piece in what could be a challenger to Jordan's throne. He's gotta figure out quick smart, cos if they lose this series, his career takes a huge reputation hit. He'll be solidified as a choker who can't handle the pressure of the big stage.

And it'd be a shame, because what a gigantic waste of talent that would be.

Indian guy
06-12-2013, 12:30 AM
All credit to the Spurs D, really. They have scouted him perfectly. They know exactly where to send him to assure he would pass. Know exactly what area of the paint to make him attempt a shot at(a 5 footer) to assure he would miss. Their overloading his side of the court any time he isos is perfect. And to make everything worse, LeBron's jumper is completely MIA. He has to get it back, it's that simple. It's his only hope.

:oldlol: @ all the posts putting this on "mentality". It's amazing how incapable people are of actually reading what's happening on the court. LeBron wouldn't be playing anything like this if it was OKC he was facing right now. You know why? Because their D doesn't sniff SA's.

KenneBell
06-12-2013, 12:35 AM
LeBron is shook and its all in his jumpshot mechanics. He reverted to '08 Bron out there on some those shots. Almost inexplicable.

Ne 1
06-12-2013, 12:35 AM
2007 doesn't count - the fact he made the Finals was an achievement in itself that year.

I don't agree with this considering the 2007 Eastern Conference was a joke. LeBron got swept and performed so far below what you would expect from him. Averaged 22 ppg, 7 rpg, 6.8 apg, but he shot 35.6%(20% on 3's and 69% from the line) while averaging 5.8 turnovers per game and 22.5 shots per game.
on averaged 22 ppg, 7 rpg, 6.8 apg, but he shot 35.6%(20% on 3's and 69% from the line) while averaging 5.8 turnovers per game and 22.5 shots per game.

Glide2keva
06-12-2013, 12:38 AM
I was saying the same thing. He's checking hard and bad finals games are seeming to be the norm for him.

sportjames23
06-12-2013, 12:39 AM
That's why I said in the more physical defensive era before he even entered the league pre 2005, he'd be even worse. You could body him and be physical. He'd have no first step to get around people, and his ISO scoring skills are very weak compared to the MJ, Kobe, Durant, Melo, hell even Wade's of the world.


The Bad Boys, 90s Knicks, 90s Heat and 90s Pacers would feast on Lebron. I don't even wanna think about how the 90s Bulls would abuse him.

Marikina
06-12-2013, 12:39 AM
:oldlol: @ all the posts putting this on "mentality". It's amazing how incapable people are of actually reading what's happening on the court. LeBron wouldn't be playing anything like this if it was OKC he was facing right now. You know why? Because their D doesn't sniff SA's.

So you're saying he can thrive against finals rookies, but fail to rise to the challenge against savvy veterans?

sportjames23
06-12-2013, 12:42 AM
All credit to the Spurs D, really. They have scouted him perfectly. They know exactly where to send him to assure he would pass. Know exactly what area of the paint to make him attempt a shot at(a 5 footer) to assure he would miss. Their overloading his side of the court any time he isos is perfect. And to make everything worse, LeBron's jumper is completely MIA. He has to get it back, it's that simple. It's his only hope.

:oldlol: @ all the posts putting this on "mentality". It's amazing how incapable people are of actually reading what's happening on the court. LeBron wouldn't be playing anything like this if it was OKC he was facing right now. You know why? Because their D doesn't sniff SA's.


MJ System.

Kobe used it at the All Star game. Spurs using it now.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Indian guy
06-12-2013, 12:44 AM
So you're saying he can thrive against finals rookies, but fail to rise to the challenge against savvy veterans?

No, I'm saying Popovich is on a completely different planet as a defensive game planner than Scott Brooks is. The answer to LeBron's struggles in this series lie almost completely in the defense.

TOUCH MY BODY
06-12-2013, 12:46 AM
No, I'm saying Popovich is on a completely different planet as a defensive game planner than Scott Brooks is. The answer to LeBron's struggles in this series lie almost completely in the defense.

And yet he passes up open shots.

chazzy
06-12-2013, 12:48 AM
All credit to the Spurs D, really. They have scouted him perfectly. They know exactly where to send him to assure he would pass. Know exactly what area of the paint to make him attempt a shot at(a 5 footer) to assure he would miss. Their overloading his side of the court any time he isos is perfect. And to make everything worse, LeBron's jumper is completely MIA. He has to get it back, it's that simple. It's his only hope.

:oldlol: @ all the posts putting this on "mentality". It's amazing how incapable people are of actually reading what's happening on the court. LeBron wouldn't be playing anything like this if it was OKC he was facing right now. You know why? Because their D doesn't sniff SA's.
He got jumpers against the #1 defensive team last series and had the confidence to take them. It's not just him missing shots, he looks uncertain when taking them

Heilige
06-12-2013, 12:55 AM
No, I'm saying Popovich is on a completely different planet as a defensive game planner than Scott Brooks is. The answer to LeBron's struggles in this series lie almost completely in the defense.


How did Kobe do against the Spurs brah?

OhNoTimNoSho
06-12-2013, 08:27 AM
You know i think hes gonna bounce back really strong from this one... Yea.. def... He's gonna come back strong next year.

Blackisbig
06-12-2013, 08:52 AM
It's not like Lebron played OKC great last year either. Durant outplayed him 1 on 1 and his stats dipped across the board. The guy is a fraud.

PickernRoller
06-12-2013, 09:16 AM
I'm a LeBron fan, but that could have been a career killing game.

He was on his way to top 5, maybe even surpassing Bird as the best Small Forward ever.

But that was disgusting.

I was on the fence about whether he was a player that was scared of the Finals.

2007 doesn't count - the fact he made the Finals was an achievement in itself that year.

2011 was a player cracking the sads when things weren't going his way.

2012 showed he could light it up on the big stage when he had the confidence.

But this series, this game... I'm sick of seeing him spend the first 8 minutes of every game trying to "set up" Bosh and Wade, to "get them going". It's horse shit.

He needs to come out scoring straight off the bat - to RELIEVE the pressure from Wade and Bosh needing to score. That would help their games so much more than what he is doing. The reason he won't do it seems to be because he's scared that he can't kick into scoring mode that early. He takes the easy option - set up others and if they fail, it's not his fault.

I don't care if he's a "team player". He's the best damn player on the planet, but as soon as he hits Finals pressure, he wilts away.

It's the missing piece in what could be a challenger to Jordan's throne. He's gotta figure out quick smart, cos if they lose this series, his career takes a huge reputation hit. He'll be solidified as a choker who can't handle the pressure of the big stage.

And it'd be a shame, because what a gigantic waste of talent that would be.

Stopped reading at Top 5....:lol

tmacattack33
06-12-2013, 09:30 AM
It's not like Lebron played OKC great last year either. Durant outplayed him 1 on 1 and his stats dipped across the board. The guy is a fraud.

Yeah right.

Don't try to rewrite history bro. Lebron beat Durant constantly off the dribble in games 2 and 3 I believe. So bad that Brooks had to put Sefalosha on Lebron in those games to close them out...and then in games 4 and 5 it was a split between Sefalosha and Durant...with Sefalosha usually getting Lebron in the 4th quarter and doing better than Durant did on Lebron.


And on the other end of the court, Lebron did better on Durant than Battier did.


You can't just make sh*t up :oldlol: . It wasn't even that long ago and we all remember it. I bet you knew you were going to get called out for it, but you said it anyway for fun i guess, so here it is.

KingTut
06-12-2013, 09:40 AM
this the same guy who dominated last year to win a title, and is averaging 17, 13, and 8 in the current finals?

people have short memories
He was going up against young inexperienced thunder team with a dumb coach & average defense.

PickernRoller
06-12-2013, 09:42 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/2uts3gn.jpg

poido123
06-12-2013, 09:45 AM
All the flops, all the arrogance, the "decision", the stat padding is all the karma coming his way now.

You can't buy or create greatness and dynasties without first stepping up and earning them. There was small bits of evidence of a player destined for Karma when he self-proclaimed to be the "king".

I have always believed the true spirit of basketball would overcome such a great evil that has bestowed our game. I always felt that the way Lebron's career developed that all his flopping, arrogance, not fulfilling promises and BS was going to catch up to him one day.

Now I don't think Lebron is a bad guy, he is a law abiding citizen(as far as I know), but he certainly done himself no favours with the way he has portrayed himself and the way he has gone about playing basketball. He only has to look at 37 year old Duncan and realise what could of been...

DMAVS41
06-12-2013, 09:47 AM
Long way to go, but this is a huge problem for Lebron if they lose this series now.

It's one thing to go down playing well...but losing like this...in the heart of his prime against a good, but hardly great Spurs team. Wow...after the 2011 collapse....

pauk
06-12-2013, 09:55 AM
Sure Lebrons teammates have played even worse than they usually do, its ultimately a team thing.... but i am not satisfied with Lebrons performance, he has been absolutely horrible scoring wise, nothing like ive seen before from him (even worse than 2011 Finals actually) so far....

I dont give a damn if Lebron loses.... its all good as long as he does his job, plays up to his standards or at least close to it.... then there is really nothing to criticize really as ultimately the better team wins.... afterall a player can control only himself, how he plays, the rest is completely out of his hands... sure he can create great plays for his teammates, but he cant control them finishing/hitting that shot, neither can he control them defensively....

PickernRoller
06-12-2013, 10:00 AM
Sure Lebrons teammates have played even worse than they usually do, its ultimately a team thing....


At first I was like.... :rolleyes:


.... but i am not satisfied with Lebrons performance, he has been absolutely horrible scoring wise, nothing like ive seen before from him (even worse than 2011 Finals actually) so far....


Then I am like...:applause:



I dont give a damn if Lebron loses.... its all good as long as he does his job, plays up to his standards or at least close to it....

Surprised me like....:biggums:


... then there is really nothing to criticize really....

:coleman:

pauk
06-12-2013, 10:03 AM
At first I was like.... :rolleyes:



Then I was like...:applause:



Now I am like....:biggums:



:coleman:

How can you criticize someone doing their best....? :confusedshrug:

..again... this is not tennis.... if it was Lebron would be winning all the time... even when his shot is not falling, considering you wont have 4 of your teammates behind you ready to trap him / draw charge / clog the paint / double-triple team etc forcing him to pass the ball or brick....

AintNoSunshine
06-12-2013, 10:06 AM
Outdone himself's 2007 finals performance, that's fukking impressive, I didn't even know that's possible for a "superstar". He's extremely mentally immature.

DMAVS41
06-12-2013, 10:08 AM
How can you criticize someone doing their best....? :confusedshrug:

..again... this is not tennis....

It's more connected than that though. It's part of Lebron's job to get his teammates playing well...

But that of course is not relevant. Lebron is choking horribly yet again....

poido123
06-12-2013, 10:09 AM
How can you criticize someone doing their best....? :confusedshrug:

..again... this is not tennis.... if it was Lebron would be winning all the time... even when his shot is not falling, considering you wont have 4 of your teammates behind you ready to trap him / draw charge / clog the paint / double-triple team etc forcing him to pass the ball or brick....

Dude, its embarassing trying to defend Lebron when he clearly doesnt deserve it.

I don't even know exactly what I read in your post, it makes absolutely no sense.

PickernRoller
06-12-2013, 10:14 AM
How can you criticize someone doing their best....? :confusedshrug:

..again... this is not tennis.... if it was Lebron would be winning all the time... even when his shot is not falling, considering you wont have 4 of your teammates behind you ready to trap him / draw charge / clog the paint / double-triple team etc forcing him to pass the ball or brick....

:wtf:

pauk
06-12-2013, 10:16 AM
Dude, its embarassing trying to defend Lebron when he clearly doesnt deserve it.

I don't even know exactly what I read in your post, it makes absolutely no sense.

How exactly am i defending Lebron? He is playing absolutely horrible scoring wise.... there is no way in hell anybody can defend Lebron here... especially not me....

I am simply talking about what i want to see from Lebron and how this is a TEAM GAME........... that i wouldnt be disappointed if Lebron lost if only he could play up to his standards...

Take ECF vs Orlando for example, he averaged 39-8-8 and was great in clutch etc..... nobody said squat after he lost that series..... thats even above his standards, still lost....

Ultimately the better team wins, all i want from Lebron is to perform up to his standards.... thats my point...

Boomerang
06-12-2013, 10:17 AM
How can you criticize someone doing their best....? :confusedshrug:

..again... this is not tennis.... if it was Lebron would be winning all the time... even when his shot is not falling, considering you wont have 4 of your teammates behind you ready to trap him / draw charge / clog the paint / double-triple team etc forcing him to pass the ball or brick....
how is lebron doing his best..
His teammates were actually the ones playing well.. he's the one that played like shiit.. even he admitted it. He said his teammates did their part, he's the one that didn't do his part...

and yet you defend him with "how can you criticize someone doing their best?"
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Mr Exlax
06-12-2013, 10:18 AM
Lebron needs to keep taking shots. Next game he needs to actually take them in rhythym though lol.

-23-
06-12-2013, 10:18 AM
LeBron became LeShook.

jrong
06-12-2013, 10:19 AM
This is not 2011 redux. There is no assertive, alpha Wade anymore who is limiting James's ability to control the game and reducing his aggressiveness.

All the simpletons across the media and fan landscape who are calling for him to just "be more aggressive" aren't looking at what he's looking at. He has one choice at this point: start making the jumpshots that they're conceding to him. Because with the paint as clogged as it is, even if he does get into the interior, shots at the basket are tougher than the jumpers.

What is throwing LeBron off is that he's so wide open so early in the shotclock. LeBron (and Wade) like to set up possessions. When James sticks shots in people's eyes, it's usually with a hand in his face, and the shotclock under 5 seconds.

Now he's staring at open 17 footers with more than half the clock left. LeBron's instinct in that situtation is to try to produce a better shot, so he'll often pass. But, a lot of times the ball will never find its way back to him. Also, you can't blame him for being wary of taking more jumpers when he's not coming close to finding the net.

The Heat could post him more, but the Spurs corrected their mistake from Game 2 by over-committing with the double and leaving the 3 pt shooters open. Instead, they're doing a great job covering him straight-up and allowing the backline defenders to provide help when he goes toward the basket.

So LeBron has one recourse, or the series is over: start making the wide open shots that he's being given. That would force the Spurs to step out on him. The problem, however, may be though that the shots are too wide open (although the defenders are long enough that they can still step out and get a hand up once he raises up).

pauk
06-12-2013, 10:19 AM
how is lebron doing his best..
His teammates were actually the ones playing well.. he's the one that played like shiit.. even he admitted it. He said his teammates did their part, he's the one that didn't do his part...

and yet you defend him with "how can you criticize someone doing their best?"
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Man, am i talking to retards here or something? Where did i say Lebron is doing his best? Did you actually read what i said & meant in the previous posts?

poido123
06-12-2013, 10:22 AM
This is not 2011 redux. There is no assertive, alpha Wade any more who is limiting James's ability to control the game and reducing his aggressiveness.

All the simpletons across the media and fan landscape who are calling for him to just "be more aggressive" aren't looking at what he's looking at. He has one choice at this point: start making the jumpshots that they're conceding to him. Because with the paint as clogged as it is, even if he does get into the interior, shots at the basket are tougher than the jumpers.

What is throwing LeBron off is that he's so wide open so early in the shotclock. LeBron (and Wade) like to set up possessions. When James sticks shots in people's eyes, it's usually with a hand in a face, and the shotclock under 5 seconds.

Now, he's staring at open 17 footers with more than half the clock left. LeBron's instinct in that situtation is to try to produce a better shot, so he'll often pass. But, a lot of times the ball will never find its way back to him. Also, you can't blame being wary of taking more jumpers when he's not coming close to finding the net.

The Heat could post him more, but the Spurs corrected their mistake from Game 2 by over-committing with the double and leaving the 3 pt shooters open. Instead, they're doing a great job covering him straight-up and allowing the backline defenders to provide help when he goes toward the basket.

So LeBron has one recourse, or the series is over: start making the wide open shots that he's being given. That would force the Spurs to step out on him. The problem may be though that the shots are too wide open (although the defenders are long enough that they can still step out and get a hand up once he raises up).

A very good post and good insight man, I'll give you that. :applause:

Mr Exlax
06-12-2013, 10:29 AM
This is not 2011 redux. There is no assertive, alpha Wade any more who is limiting James's ability to control the game and reducing his aggressiveness.

All the simpletons across the media and fan landscape who are calling for him to just "be more aggressive" aren't looking at what he's looking at. He has one choice at this point: start making the jumpshots that they're conceding to him. Because with the paint as clogged as it is, even if he does get into the interior, shots at the basket are tougher than the jumpers.

What is throwing LeBron off is that he's so wide open so early in the shotclock. LeBron (and Wade) like to set up possessions. When James sticks shots in people's eyes, it's usually with a hand in his face, and the shotclock under 5 seconds.

Now, he's staring at open 17 footers with more than half the clock left. LeBron's instinct in that situtation is to try to produce a better shot, so he'll often pass. But, a lot of times the ball will never find its way back to him. Also, you can't blame him for being wary of taking more jumpers when he's not coming close to finding the net.

The Heat could post him more, but the Spurs corrected their mistake from Game 2 by over-committing with the double and leaving the 3 pt shooters open. Instead, they're doing a great job covering him straight-up and allowing the backline defenders to provide help when he goes toward the basket.

So LeBron has one recourse, or the series is over: start making the wide open shots that he's being given. That would force the Spurs to step out on him. The problem, however, may be though that the shots are too wide open (although the defenders are long enough that they can still step out and get a hand up once he raises up).

I agree 1000% with all of that! I would add that in the offseason he should demand they get a Center or PF that can actually post up though. I think that would make SA have to play defense completely different.

hitmanyr2k
06-12-2013, 10:31 AM
Scott Brooks probably feels like a complete ass right now. Lebron couldn't throw it in the ocean from the perimeter in last years Finals either but Brooks rarely packed the paint like the Mavs did in 2011 and gave Lebron free paths to the basket all series.

branslowski
06-12-2013, 10:32 AM
LeBron probably wishes Kobe was healthy for the First round of these playoffs...No Spurs, Heat would be playing Warriors or Lakers....Kobe balls hard against the Spurs in the playoffs...

Or, Kobe can create a LeBron mask (kinda like Tom Cruise did in MI3 wit da villian) and Bron can stay in a cave while Kobe puts up 32-5-5 including 12ppg in 4th quarters for remainder of this series. Will win and everyone would give Bron credit.

Ballin416
06-12-2013, 10:38 AM
I'm just your average objective and unbiased basketball fan that always thought the hate on LeBron was undeserving but if he continues to play passive and disinterested and the Heat end up losing, I'm going to have to
agree with the haters... Hes a finals choke artist and does not deserve top 10 all time.

1/4 in the finals is inexcusable

jrong
06-12-2013, 10:39 AM
Scott Brooks probably feels like a complete ass right now. Lebron couldn't throw it in the ocean from the perimeter in last years Finals either but Brooks rarely packed the paint like the Mavs did in 2011 and gave Lebron free paths to the basket all series.

The Heat romped in the Finals last year because OKC predictably imploded, from Brooks to Harden to Westbrook (he scored 43 one game and was wretched the rest of the series). Durant was the only one who played well.

Had SAS held on their lead in the WCFs in 2012, we'd be looking at much the same situation right now.

I said as soon as it happened that Westbrook's injury set the Heat up for defeat. Because it was obvious that, while OKC couldn't stop them, the Spurs could. The Spurs just can't keep up with OKC athletically when they're at full strength.

It's like rock-paper-scissors.

Blackisbig
06-12-2013, 10:42 AM
Yeah right.

Don't try to rewrite history bro. Lebron beat Durant constantly off the dribble in games 2 and 3 I believe. So bad that Brooks had to put Sefalosha on Lebron in those games to close them out...and then in games 4 and 5 it was a split between Sefalosha and Durant...with Sefalosha usually getting Lebron in the 4th quarter and doing better than Durant did on Lebron.


And on the other end of the court, Lebron did better on Durant than Battier did.


You can't just make sh*t up :oldlol: . It wasn't even that long ago and we all remember it. I bet you knew you were going to get called out for it, but you said it anyway for fun i guess, so here it is.



Are you some kind of simpleton? Lebron shot under fifty percent for the series. Durant shot a better percentage, and quite simply outplayed Lebron on the offensive end of the floor. Biggest difference between this series and that one is that Lebron averaged 9.2 FT's a game. If he was getting the same amount of FT's this series his numbers would be nearly the same.

Once again. Lebron is a fraud.

Mr Exlax
06-12-2013, 10:45 AM
Are you some kind of simpleton? Lebron shot under fifty percent for the series. Durant shot a better percentage, and quite simply outplayed Lebron on the offensive end of the floor. Biggest difference between this series and that one is that Lebron averaged 9.2 FT's a game. If he was getting the same amount of FT's this series his numbers would be nearly the same.

Once again. Lebron is a fraud.


Ummmm ole dude was pretty accurate though. Do you not remember the Witness Protection program? Sefolosha and Harden defended Lebron way way more than Durant did. Especially in the 4th quarter. Witness Protection.

BlackVVaves
06-12-2013, 11:11 AM
Man, am i talking to retards here or something? Where did i say Lebron is doing his best? Did you actually read what i said & meant in the previous posts?

Yeah, I'm not sure what some people are reading in your post. You're clearly calling Lebron out, for once.

You're whole "can't criticize someone for trying their best..." spiel though ... I've seen you be critical of players for trying to score too much to help will their team to victory in the playoffs, doesn't that count as "trying their best"? That's my only issue with your post. Other than that, not much to say.

Lebron needs to do better, simple as that.

Asukal
06-12-2013, 11:45 AM
This series is crucial for Lebron's legacy. If he pulls out a 2011, comparisons to Jordan should end and rightfully so. On the other hand, if he pulls out a miracle the next 4 games it will help his case greatly. Timmy is in a win win situation though lol! :roll:

tpols
06-12-2013, 11:47 AM
So you're saying he can thrive against finals rookies, but fail to rise to the challenge against savvy veterans?
Thats exactly what it is.. When playing against younger brother Kevin Durant he isnt afraid to put him in his place. When faced with tough nosed vets who dont give a fvck and go hard every possesion he folds.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
06-12-2013, 11:49 AM
This is not 2011 redux. There is no assertive, alpha Wade any more who is limiting James's ability to control the game and reducing his aggressiveness.

All the simpletons across the media and fan landscape who are calling for him to just "be more aggressive" aren't looking at what he's looking at. He has one choice at this point: start making the jumpshots that they're conceding to him. Because with the paint as clogged as it is, even if he does get into the interior, shots at the basket are tougher than the jumpers.

What is throwing LeBron off is that he's so wide open so early in the shotclock. LeBron (and Wade) like to set up possessions. When James sticks shots in people's eyes, it's usually with a hand in his face, and the shotclock under 5 seconds.

Now, he's staring at open 17 footers with more than half the clock left. LeBron's instinct in that situtation is to try to produce a better shot, so he'll often pass. But, a lot of times the ball will never find its way back to him. Also, you can't blame him for being wary of taking more jumpers when he's not coming close to finding the net.

The Heat could post him more, but the Spurs corrected their mistake from Game 2 by over-committing with the double and leaving the 3 pt shooters open. Instead, they're doing a great job covering him straight-up and allowing the backline defenders to provide help when he goes toward the basket.

So LeBron has one recourse, or the series is over: start making the wide open shots that he's being given. That would force the Spurs to step out on him. The problem, however, may be though that the shots are too wide open (although the defenders are long enough that they can still step out and get a hand up once he raises up).

Great post, jrong.

tpols
06-12-2013, 11:52 AM
Sure Lebrons teammates have played even worse than they usually do, its ultimately a team thing.... but i am not satisfied with Lebrons performance, he has been absolutely horrible scoring wise, nothing like ive seen before from him (even worse than 2011 Finals actually) so far....

I dont give a damn if Lebron loses.... its all good as long as he does his job, plays up to his standards or at least close to it.... then there is really nothing to criticize really as ultimately the better team wins.... afterall a player can control only himself, how he plays, the rest is completely out of his hands... sure he can create great plays for his teammates, but he cant control them finishing/hitting that shot, neither can he control them defensively....
So much loser in this post.:oldlol: Its alright if he fills in the stat sheet but doesnt come up with meaningful basketball plays and win his team the game? Damn shame..:facepalm

Id rather see him shoot like shit, but attack SAS like no other, get them in foul trouble and command the game than cherry pick layups here and there while his team gets blown out.

And yes he can control his team to an extent. Its called leadership. Sure if they suck thats one thing.. but he has his shooters on fire right now and theres nothing to complain about. Its 100 percent on him.

OhNoTimNoSho
06-12-2013, 11:54 AM
Man, am i talking to retards here or something? Where did i say Lebron is doing his best? Did you actually read what i said & meant in the previous posts?
Dude you need to practice talking or take a writing class or something... your posts are so convoluted that no one has any idea what point you're trying to get across

VIntageNOvel
06-12-2013, 12:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/rNcx45z.jpg

okay seriously i start to feel bad for him,
i cant stand those puppy eyes

The Real JW
06-12-2013, 12:32 PM
Dude you need to practice talking or take a writing class or something... your posts are so convoluted that no one has any idea what point you're trying to get across

I don't believe English is pauk's first language.

I.R.Beast
06-12-2013, 12:45 PM
He didn't dominate last year. Durant outplayed him, and Lebron's percentages dropped across the board.
This. People seem to forget that Harden and ibaka disappeared and LBJ got amazing contributions from chalmers, battier and miller. He literally didnt have to come through under pressure in the finals last year.

VIntageNOvel
06-12-2013, 12:53 PM
This. People seem to forget that Harden and ibaka disappeared and LBJ got amazing contributions from chalmers, battier and miller. He literally didnt have to come through under pressure in the finals last year.

This,
last year actually a game 2 vs spurs x 4 times
heat bench step up, while OKC key player choke, and OKC wasnt really deep either outside harden
even with some questionable call that put him on foul trouble, Durant put some really good stat in amazing efficiency

alexd
06-12-2013, 01:31 PM
All credit to the Spurs D, really. They have scouted him perfectly. They know exactly where to send him to assure he would pass. Know exactly what area of the paint to make him attempt a shot at(a 5 footer) to assure he would miss. Their overloading his side of the court any time he isos is perfect. And to make everything worse, LeBron's jumper is completely MIA. He has to get it back, it's that simple. It's his only hope.

:oldlol: @ all the posts putting this on "mentality". It's amazing how incapable people are of actually reading what's happening on the court. LeBron wouldn't be playing anything like this if it was OKC he was facing right now. You know why? Because their D doesn't sniff SA's.

:applause: :applause: finally a quality poster
don t put it all on lebron.give credit to spurs.they play him hard all over the court.its spo fault that puts lebron in a situation to fail.everyone just stands there and expect him to do something out of thin air.he ll get exhausted and discouraged at some point
share the ball don t use lebron as a playmaker.make him set picks for wade or chalmers

CelticBaller
06-12-2013, 01:37 PM
How can you criticize someone doing their best....? :confusedshrug:

..again... this is not tennis.... if it was Lebron would be winning all the time... even when his shot is not falling, considering you wont have 4 of your teammates behind you ready to trap him / draw charge / clog the paint / double-triple team etc forcing him to pass the ball or brick....
He did his best? The fvcking MVP played like a role player and he did his best?

Bandito
06-12-2013, 01:53 PM
He did his best? The fvcking MVP played like a role player and he did his best?
Maybe he's just not that good.

sportjames23
06-12-2013, 02:00 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/2uts3gn.jpg


:roll: :roll: :roll:

DMV2
06-12-2013, 02:09 PM
How can you criticize someone doing their best....? :confusedshrug:

..again... this is not tennis.... if it was Lebron would be winning all the time... even when his shot is not falling, considering you wont have 4 of your teammates behind you ready to trap him / draw charge / clog the paint / double-triple team etc forcing him to pass the ball or brick....
I'll give the trapping, and clogging up the paint. What else should they do? It's call playing defense.

But double and triple teaming? Did you not see LeBron pulling up 3's on Splitter and Duncan last night? Did you not see LeBron posting up on Green twice and got blocked once?

They haven't even doubling him that much. They've given him some time and room to make plays and then they'll send in a help defender. It's not the pressure double team that we saw the Celtics do between 2008-2010. They did pressure double teaming, real double team.

ReturnofJPR
06-17-2013, 08:24 PM
He just doesn't have what it takes...