this is why I think when it's all said and done, Durant > LeBron

[jzek]

Even in his absolute prime, it's still pretty easy to defend LeBron - clog the lanes and dare him to shoot. If his shot isn't falling, pat yourselves on the back for an easy win. He can't drive to the basket and he can't hit an outside shot.

You can't do the same strategy to Durant. He will make more than he will miss so you can't keep encouraging him to beat you with his jumper. It's suicide. Everyone knows this. If his jumper isn't falling, he can beat you off the dribble. All he needs is a post-up game a-la Jordan and he'll be completely unstoppable.

[keep-itreal]

can't take that dude seriously with all his lame ass tattoos.

[tmacattack33]

Even in his absolute prime, it's still pretty easy to defend LeBron - clog the lanes and dare him to shoot. If his shot isn't falling, pat yourselves on the back for an easy win. He can't drive to the basket and he can't hit an outside shot.

You can't do the same strategy to Durant. He will make more than he will miss so you can't keep encouraging him to beat you with his jumper. It's suicide. Everyone knows this. If his jumper isn't falling, he can beat you off the dribble. All he needs is a post-up game a-la Jordan and he'll be completely unstoppable.

Then explain why out of 12 Playoff opponents so far in Miami, which includes some very good defensive teams (Pacers, Bulls, Celtics) only 2 have been able to do this to him?

I guess it's not so easy is it.

[NumberSix]

LeBron has a really annoying way of being passive and disinterested when things aren't going his way.

[tikay0]

Durant has the iso, shooting, triple threat capabilities that Lebron doesn't have.

Durant will go down as the better player.

[KyrieTheFuture]

So then how will people explain 2012?

[All Net]

So then how will people explain 2012?

Duran was pretty good in the finals though..

[SwayDizzle]

So then how will people explain 2012?
The same way people can explain why MJ is better than Isiah Thomas

[WeGetRing2012]

Durant can be one of the best to ever play the game if he improves on his game.

He mostly scores from just straight jumpshots and moving with out the ball. If he worked on his post moves, foot work, added a fadeaway :eek: :eek: :eek: he would be unstoppable.

[Spaulding]

Durant is too weak to develop a post-up game.

[jzek]

Durant has the iso, shooting, triple threat capabilities that Lebron doesn't have.

Exactly.

We're all witnessing the blueprint for stopping LeBron. Durant has no such weakness (except for a post game).

[jzek]

Durant is too weak to develop a post-up game.

That's why I said post-up game like Jordan's - get the ball at the elbow, turn around for the fadeaway jumpshot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VcA2QZEFU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSftZvpHJg

Just need to be able to catch the ball 15 feet from the basket and then do a fadeaway. No one is blocking Durant's shot with his height+wingspan+fadeaway move.

[WeGetRing2012]

Durant is too weak to develop a post-up game.

No he is not. With his height and long arms he would be unstoppable. Look how Kobe & MJ used their post moves because of his size and skill shooting the ball and could be even more effective.

[Bobcats2013]

Kawhi will end up being better than both of them.

Leonard is about to win his first ring at age 21 and he's had a critical role in getting that ring.

[kshutts1]

Come back to me when Durant can shut down the other team's best player, almost regardless of position.

Scoring (what is being discussed here) is only part of offense. Offense is only half the game. Congrats to Durant on being better than Lebron at "part of half the game".

[NumberSix]

Exactly.

We're all witnessing the blueprint for stopping LeBron. Durant has no such weakness (except for a post game).
We're really not though. That's what is so annoying about it. The spurs defense is seriously not as good as it appears right now. LeBron is just being weak minded.

[FKAri]

Kawhi will end up being better than both of them.

Leonard is about to win his first ring at age 21 and he's had a critical role in getting that ring.

Kawhi gonna get dat FMVP before Durant.

[WeGetRing2012]

That's why I said post-up game like Jordan's - get the ball at the elbow, turn around for the fadeaway jumpshot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-VcA2QZEFU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSftZvpHJg

Just need to be able to catch the ball 15 feet from the basket and then do a fadeaway. No one is blocking Durant's shot with his height+wingspan+fadeaway move.

Better example look at Dirk's post moves. They are basically the same height.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfewOvwxMR0

[kshutts1]

We're really not though. That's what is so annoying about it. The spurs defense is seriously not as good as it appears right now. LeBron is just being weak minded.

Spurs are giving Lebron and Wade the open jumper all day. Lebron is just missing shots that he would normally make. But then by virtue of being given jumpers, the paint is essentially shut off to Lebron, so he's not really able to get easy baskets. The Spurs are playing good defense in that respect.

[jzek]

We're really not though. That's what is so annoying about it. The spurs defense is seriously not as good as it appears right now. LeBron is just being weak minded.

He is being weak minded because he can't do anything on the floor offensively. He can't drive to the basket because the Spurs are clogging the lane and Duncan is there. He can't make a jumper to save his life. I call that blueprint for stopping LeBron so he becomes passive and weak-minded.

They can't do the same to Durant. There is no blueprint for stopping him. You just hope his teammates doesn't pass him the ball so he doesn't score.

[tikay0]

He is being weak minded because he can't do anything on the floor offensively. He can't drive to the basket because the Spurs are clogging the lane and Duncan is there. He can't make a jumper to save his life. I call that blueprint for stopping LeBron so he becomes passive and weak-minded.

They can't do the same to Durant. There is no blueprint for stopping him. You just hope his teammates (like Westbrook) doesn't pass him the ball so he doesn't score.

Could you even imagine giving MJ, Durant, Kobe, any other superstar in the NBA this many wide open jumpers? Seriously, could you even imagine that?

The Mavs did it to Lebron in 11', and the Spurs are doing it to him again.

[Bobcats2013]

They can't do the same to Durant. There is no blueprint for stopping him.

Yes there is, shut down his go to guys.

Durant will stop himself by the time the fourth quarter comes.

[2LeTTeRS]

Could you even imagine giving MJ, Durant, Kobe, any other superstar in the NBA this many wide open jumpers? Seriously, could you even imagine that?

The Mavs did it to Lebron in 11', and the Spurs are doing it to him again.

Lets not forget about the '07 Spurs. They were the true originators to the blueprint for stopping LeBron.

[All Net]

Kawhi will end up being better than both of them.

Leonard is about to win his first ring at age 21 and he's had a critical role in getting that ring.

Don't make such foolish comments.

[jzek]

Lets not forget about the '07 Spurs. They were the true originators to the blueprint for stopping LeBron.

The LeBron Defensive Blueprint:

Step 1: Clog the driving lanes.
Step 2: Make LeBron shoot a jumper.
Step 3: Win.

[tikay0]

Lets not forget about the '07 Spurs. They were the true originators to the blueprint for stopping LeBron.

Good point. I totally forgot about that series. :cheers:

[tikay0]

The LeBron Defensive Blueprint:

Step 1: Clog the driving lanes.
Step 2: Make LeBron shoot a jumper.
Step 3: Win.

Step 4: Lebron fanboys are nowhere to be found, then once the next season is rolling around, they come back.

[Flash31]

WELL CONSIDERING RIGHT
NOW
LeBron has 4 MVPS,1 Ring,1 Finals MVP

and has been to the Finals 4 times,compared to Durants 1

and has every statistical category over him
more points,rebounds,assists,steals,blocks,3s

and is shooting better from the field

Durant has a very long way to go,winning one ring and finals mvp stll wont get durant over him



And considering while LeBron might be stopped,the MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES COMPLETELY
STOPPED Shut Down Kevin Durant and they didnt even get to the finals.


When its all said and done,well at the moment LeBrons way ahead,and the future isnt set in stone so LeBron could rack up more stats and win more rings and play for another 10 years or he could play great for another 5,Durant could have another 10 years or not improve at all.



Right now LeBron is way better,at the end of careers maybe but Durant has long ways to go just to catch up to LeBron now.

[Scholar]

It's funny to see OP, a die hard LeBron dick rider, die hard.

[dh144498]

It's funny to see OP, a die hard LeBron dick rider, die hard.


this

[Haymaker]

Durant is too weak to develop a post-up game.

He needs to bulk up a little. Try to achieve Scottie Pippen's build.

[LONGTIME]

They can't do the same to Durant. There is no blueprint for stopping him. You just hope his teammates doesn't pass him the ball so he doesn't score.

Strong ball denial, play him real physical and he'll get frustrated.

[tmacattack33]

Bump.

OP saw two bad games from Lebron and went bat sh*t crazy and forgot that Lebron's played in about 800 games and 100 playoff games and has played better than Durant could in most of them. :applause:

[retaxis]

typically people who have little confidence are the first ones to lose confidence when things are going wrong e.g. OP. OP would be the sort of player who would give up at half time when the team is down and thinks others are like him but we are all cut from different pieces of cloth and OP is the true weak minded fool.

[Bigsmoke]

Exactly.

We're all witnessing the blueprint for stopping LeBron. Durant has no such weakness (except for a post game).


playng like shit in 4 straight 4th quarters against Memphis is sure one of his weaknesses

can u explain this?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305150OKC.html

[aj1987]

playng like shit in 4 straight 4th quarters against Memphis is sure one of his weaknesses

can u explain this?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305150OKC.html
Look at them FT's. And people bitch about Miami being babied, when Wade and Lebron average less FT's than Kobe, Durant, Harden, Anthony, and Westbrook.

[AintNoSunshine]

They both can be contained, about the same to me overall.

[Jasper]

Even in his absolute prime, it's still pretty easy to defend LeBron - clog the lanes and dare him to shoot. If his shot isn't falling, pat yourselves on the back for an easy win. He can't drive to the basket and he can't hit an outside shot.

You can't do the same strategy to Durant. He will make more than he will miss so you can't keep encouraging him to beat you with his jumper. It's suicide. Everyone knows this. If his jumper isn't falling, he can beat you off the dribble. All he needs is a post-up game a-la Jordan and he'll be completely unstoppable.
You haven't watched alot of bball - have you .

You probably never even watched Jordan :no:

If you actually believe the pencil stick 6'11" SF is better than Bron , then you are telling me that Durant could take Bron right now one on one


NEVER WILL HAPPEN =EVER

You ever watch ICE MAN ???
DID he ever get a ring or multiple rings ?
Durant is of the same cloth bro

[tmacattack33]

Bump...again...:oldlol:

[Human Error]

Stupid cotdamn idiots. :facepalm

[RRR3]

Terrible thread.


Enjolras does not approve

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[Lebron23]

LeBron averaged 39/9/9 againts the no.1 defensive team in the NBA in the 2009 ECF. In the 2013 playoffs Durant also struggled againts the grizzlies after RW went down with an injury.

[#number6ix#]

Lmao@ this tread

[PickernRoller]

He'll surpass Lebron for the top 15 spot with one more scoring title this year.

[themurph]

Again...there's a reason why I stopped coming to this place....lol....Still the same old, same old....SMH....

[sc19]

Only if they increase his already high FT attempts by 10 fold.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Kawhi will end up being better than both of them.

Leonard is about to win his first ring at age 21 and he's had a critical role in getting that ring.
:roll:

[poido123]

BS.

Lebron will always be better than Durant overall and peak.

Durant doesn't have that size or talent to be better than Lebron.

[tazb]

****ing shitty ass thread. There are some players whos primes are at different stages in their career. LeBron's from '09-present. Durant's from '11-'12. Durant last year is the best he's going to get, he's not going to improve his game in any other way.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Durant is not even that much better than Chris Paul

[WayOfWade]

Durant to LeBron is sort of like Malone to Jordan.

[pauk]

I think you are confusing "better scoring arsenal" with "better player".... there is a massive difference.... while Durant is a better shooter and may arguably/maybe develope a better post game what does any of that matter when he very likely will never be as impactful of a orchestrator for his team offensively and defensively as Lebron is..... basketball is not 1on1 or 1on5... its team basketball and thats exactly what Lebron enforces and hence why it all results in much higher success.... success which i doubt Durant will be ever be close to sniff...

[KG215]

Durant could end up going down as the second best perimeter scorer ever behind Jordan if he continues to put up 27-28 PPG on similar efficiency as his 2013 season. But he'll never be as good of an all-around player as LeBron. He doesn't have the instincts and playmaking ability of LeBron; and he doesn't have the size/strength to be as good of a defender as LeBron.

[D-Wade316]

Durant is not even that much better than Chris Paul
thank you

[Legends66NBA7]

Wiggins > both.

Soon.

[KG215]

Durant is not even that much better than Chris Paul
You know, I can actually agree with this right now. My biased side believes Durant is pretty comfortably the second best player in the league, but if you look at advanced and on/off numbers and things like that, it's VERY close.

However, Durant will only be 25 next year. If he follows the same path as most other all-time great caliber players, he may not even peak for another 2-3 years; and if he as a 4-5 more seasons equal to or better than this one, then the gap between peak Durant and peak Paul will grow.

[Legends66NBA7]

Durant to LeBron is sort of like Malone to Jordan.

I'd say it's more like Barkley to Jordan. Out of all the stars that faced the Bulls in the finals, Barkley in 93 had the best performance, IMO.

[Unbiased_one]

He'll surpass Lebron for the top 15 spot with one more scoring title this year.

I though rings meant everything to you? After all why else would you rank your hero so highly??

[Hoopz2332]

:oldlol: this thread

[Magic 32]

Durant is too weak to develop a post-up game.

Faster than Lebron...

[chazzy]

Durant last year is the best he's going to get, he's not going to improve his game in any other way.
:oldlol: