Dwyane Wade has outplayed Lebron in the last 3 games

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Discuss:D :applause: :cheers:

[TheMarkMadsen]

D Wade has been the most impressive member of the HEAT in these finals, 26 & 10 this game & 32 points last game including leading the team to a W in the 4th with 10 consecutive points (8 scored, 2 assisted)

[Frozen1]

7-21
8-22

Can we expect an epic 6-24?

[Jacks3]

No,he hasn't. Wade was similarly terrible tonight. But nobody will talk about it because the expectations for him are nowhere near as high.

[Young X]

I'm not surprised at all, Wade is a far better finals performer than LeCasper.

[G-Funk]

7-21
8-22

Can we expect an epic 6-24?
If it goes to game 7, sure minus the 14 rebounds lol

[Day La Ghetto]

No,he hasn't. Wade was similarly terrible tonight. But nobody will talk about it because the expectations for him are nowhere near as high.
id give LeBron a C and Wade a B- .both were horrible on team d and turnovers. you can tell LeBron was playing hot potatoe late is why im so dissappointed in him

[Leftimage]

Wade was better in game 4 and undeniably inferior in every other game of the playoffs. If Wade has illusions of grandeur the rest of the way due to being hot in one game, then he'll be one of the major culprits for Heat losing.

[Fudge]

Wade > LeBron.

Told y'all already.

[edrick]

No, Wade has had 1 great game all playoffs......

[Vragrant]

He has. Lebron has been so passive, especially in such critical moments tonight. For example Wade made several baskets to cut the lead to 1 in the 3rd. At the end of the 3rd the Spurs push the lead to 12 (with Wade out of the game) and Lebron was nowhere to be seen. He didn't even attempt a shot from what I remember. I watched him during that sequence and he just listless, and inexplicably deferring on offense.

The offense also looks better when its run through Wade. Wade is constantly probing, just seems to make quicker decisions, and the ball moves more, instead of Lebron chewing up the shotclock and other players standing around. It just gives the opportunity for the defense to load up instead of putting it on its heels.

[Jacks3]

No, Wade has had 1 great game all playoffs......
Exactly.

[Jacks3]

id give LeBron a C and Wade a B- .both were horrible on team d and turnovers. you can tell LeBron was playing hot potatoe late is why im so dissappointed in him
Wade was much more ball-dominant tonight. That probbaly has something to do with his passiveness.

[aj1987]

Wade was much more ball-dominant tonight. That probbaly has something to do with his passiveness.
You must either be trolling or just plain stupid if you think Lebron was better than Wade tonight.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/18121/heat-reaction-game-5-at-spurs

[Leftimage]

You must either be trolling or just plain stupid if you think Lebron was better than Wade tonight.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/18121/heat-reaction-game-5-at-spurs

Woah... that is the first time I see ESPN's ''heat reaction'' being used to support an argument.

That shit is a ****ing joke bro.

[pegasus]

Wade was much more ball-dominant tonight. That probbaly has something to do with his passiveness.
Why don't you post as "pauk"?

[Jacks3]

What.

[Micku]

No,he hasn't. Wade was similarly terrible tonight. But nobody will talk about it because the expectations for him are nowhere near as high.

I don't think so. He ran the offense pretty good and got his own shots. His efficiency was ok. At least in the last two games. LeBron James was more consistent throughout. But Wade has been slowly controlling the offense this Finals. Sometimes it's good and other times it's not.

I would say that Wade has been keeping them in the game more so than LBJ, and ran the offense better these past two games. They have to pick up their defense tho.

[aj1987]

Woah... that is the first time I see ESPN's ''heat reaction'' being used to support an argument.

That shit is a ****ing joke bro.
I know but the guy doesn't seem to understand Basketball. Had to get my point across somehow.

[Jacks3]

You must either be trolling or just plain stupid if you think Lebron was better than Wade tonight.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/18121/heat-reaction-game-5-at-spurs
He was better. Mainly because Wade's defense was awful. Deal with it, stan.

And lol @ using ESPN as your argument. :roll:

[Jacks3]

I know but the guy doesn't seem to understand Basketball. Had to get my point across somehow.
You're a dumbass. Wade has been garbage all post-season.

One great game the entire post-season. One. :roll:

[pegasus]

Wade has been their leader and clearly the best Heat player. He actually scores and does things when it matters. And I hate him just as much as I hate Lebron.

[aj1987]

He was better. Mainly because Wade's defense was awful. Deal with it, stan.

And lol @ using ESPN as your argument. :roll:
Well, this proves it. You don't understand basketball. Seeing your Kobe avatar, I think you prefer Lebron because of his 8-22 shooting.

FYI, Lebron got shut down by a fat Boris "Scrub" Diaw and missed 3-4 layups.

[DFish24]

Wade has been MVP of Heat so far. Lol @ stans who think LeGhost played better than Wade today.

[Legends66NBA7]

Wade's been better the last 2 games, but that's about it. Game 3 they were both pretty bad, but James was worse. Certainly didn't 'outplay' him.... but I guess I can see that point too.

[Jacks3]

Well, this proves it. You don't understand basketball. Seeing your Kobe avatar, I think you prefer Lebron because of his 8-22 shooting.
Nice comback. And Wade's efficiency was similarly awful today (51% TS).

And why would that make me prefer LeBron when Kobe has excellent efficiency numbers for his career (56% TS/112 ORTG).

What an idiot. :oldlol:

[Jacks3]

Wade 2013 post-season: 15/5/4 on 50% TS.

One of the worst post-season in history for a star player.

:oldlol:

[Micku]

Wade 2013 post-season: 15/5/4 on 50% TS.

One of the worst post-season in history for a star player.

:oldlol:

Of course. But he has stepped up for the last 2 games. I don't think you can ask anything more. At this point, it's more of a bonus for him since he is winding down. It's all about what is LBJ could do since he is MVP. He has been disappointing so far. We'll see what would happen the next games.

[tpols]

Of course. But he has stepped up for the last 2 games. I don't think you can ask anything more. At this point, it's more of a bonus for him since he is winding down. It's all about what is LBJ could do since he is MVP. He has been disappointing so far. We'll see what would happen the next games.
Thats what Ive been saying.. they havent really needed Wade all playoffs long because of a combo of Lebron playing great and them facing sub par competition. Spurs are a different animal than the weak ass teams theyve faced and with Bron folding/becpoming passive this is all you can ask of Wade.. to step up at the crucial stages. 33 pts last game, 25/10 this game cant ask for much more. Sure hes been getting lit up by Green but so has everyone else.

[aj1987]

Nice comback. And Wade's efficiency was similarly awful today (51% TS).

And why would that make me prefer LeBron when Kobe has excellent efficiency numbers for his career (56% TS/112 ORTG).

What an idiot. :oldlol:
Wade's TS% is 51.65 and Lebron is at 48.15. How is that even close? There's a 3.5% differential. You are the lone idiot on this board who thinks that Wade played bad tonight. Let alone being worse than Lebron.

[Jacks3]

Wade's TS% is 51.65 and Lebron is at 48.15. How is that even close? There's a 3.5% differential. You are the lone idiot on this board who thinks that Wade played bad tonight. Let alone being worse than Lebron.
So they both had terrible efficiency. LeBron scored as much, played better defense, got more rebounds, took better care of the ball, and drew more defensive attention. He was easily better tonight. Deal with it, you moron.

Bet LBJ must be feeling a little tired from carrying Wade all post-season.

:facepalm

[AngelEyes]

So they both had terrible efficiency. LeBron scored as much, played better defense, got more rebounds, took better care of the ball, and drew more defensive attention. He was easily better tonight. Deal with it, you moron.

Bet LBJ must be feeling a little tired from carrying Wade all post-season.

:facepalm

This. Wade's defense was awful today, lazy as hell.

[aj1987]

So they both had terrible efficiency. LeBron scored as much, played better defense, got more rebounds, took better care of the ball, and drew more defensive attention. He was easily better tonight. Deal with it, you moron.

Bet LBJ must be feeling a little tired from carrying Wade all post-season.

:facepalm
You are beyond retarded. Took better care of the ball? He had one TO less than Wade. Two of them in the 4th for a total of 3. "Defensive attention" Yeah, being shut down by Boris Diaw. Wade should be glad that Diaw didn't guard him. Wade was the better passer, shot the ball better, was the better scorer, had more blocks and played equally good defense. Wade wasn't the one guarding Parker when he sealed the game with the drive.

[jrong]

Wade has a 26 ppg average in 22 Finals games. He has 7 30+ games and 2 40+ games. He has two or three championships (pending) and four Finals appearances. He has been the best performer on his team in two or three of those series (pending). He has been the best performer on either team in two or three of those series (pending). He has 1 Finals MVP.

Wade either took a shot, which I didn't know you could do for a bone bruise, or taking shorter rests really is just keeping him from stiffening up.

But, the biggest difference is that his mentality has shifted. He is no longer deferring. I mean, who could have predicted that he'd look like a different player with 20+ shots per game than he would with 12??

And there always have been some things about his skill-set and approach that translate better against championship level defense than those of LeBron.

[Jacks3]

You are beyond retarded
Jesus Christ. STFU. You have no clue what you're talking about. ****ing idiot.

Took better care of the ball? He had one TO less than Wade.
3 turnovers to Wade's 4. That's a fact, moron.
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"Defensive attention"
That's right. The Spurs are barely paying attention to D-Whistle. Watch the game, you retard.

Wade was the better passer, shot the ball better, was the better scorer, had more blocks and played equally good defense. Wade wasn't the one guarding Parker when he sealed the game with the drive.
LeBron scored as much, played better defense, got more rebounds, took better care of the ball, and drew more defensive attention. LeBron wasn't the one getting destroyed by freaking Danny Green. He was easily better tonight.

Deal with it. ****ing idiot.

[Jacks3]

This. Wade's defense was awful today, lazy as hell.
Exactly. Why can't these moronic Wade stans see that? Dude is making Green look like a God. :oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yeah, Wade had a better game tonight. He did last game too. Where is Waldo, err Lebron? :oldlol:

[Young X]

Did Lebron even score in the 4th quarter? :oldlol:

[fozi]

I was rooting for Spurs, but i was extremely pissed off of LeBron. Wade was better though. He attacked the rim more to say the least.


LeBron cant play like that, i hate his mentality as hell..


He was way too passive, maybe because of his bad shooting night so he didnt want to wake it worse. But its atrocious. If LeBron wasnt hesitant to try to shoot the ball the game could've shifted. His mentality at the 8th minute mark i believe was the game was over. Unlike LeBron, wade tried better.


The awkwardness is that we're pleased that a player is trying to do something rather than making it happen.. I am so disappointed of LeBron. You simply cant be a leader when you try to integrate your players more on the expense of trying to win the game..


If LeBron had the will of Parker or Ginobilli today, never mind he never was never is.

[aj1987]

Jesus Christ. STFU. You have no clue what you're talking about. ****ing idiot.

3 turnovers to Wade's 4. That's a fact, moron.
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That's right. The Spurs are barely paying attention to D-Whistle. Watch the game, you retard.

LeBron scored as much, played better defense, got more rebounds, took better care of the ball, and drew more defensive attention. LeBron wasn't the one getting destroyed by freaking Danny Green. He was easily better tonight.

Deal with it. ****ing idiot.
Lebron commanded so much attention that Pop put an overweight and washed up Boris on him, and Kawhi on Wade. Once again, you are beyond retarded and know nothing about basketball.

[Trollsmasher]

Wade may had a better numbers tonight, but he was largely responsible for the huge amount of **** ups during their run in the 3rd quarter.

Bricking layups (yeah, LeBron did that too), going 1 on 5 and losing the ball, letting every Green's shot to be open...

[ripthekik]

Wade may had a better numbers tonight, but he was largely responsible for the huge amount of **** ups during their run in the 3rd quarter.

Bricking layups (yeah, LeBron did that too), going 1 on 5 and losing the ball, letting every Green's shot to be open...
he did step up and scored a bunch of buckets when miami needed them the most though..

[HiphopRelated]

Wade may had a better numbers tonight, but he was largely responsible for the huge amount of **** ups during their run in the 3rd quarter.

Bricking layups (yeah, LeBron did that too), going 1 on 5 and losing the ball, letting every Green's shot to be open...
Wade keyed the run to get it down to 1 in the 3rd, then Spo takes him out the game. He doesn't come back until they're down 12 or 14 in the 4th, so...

[Blue&Orange]

Even if we forget for a moment that Wade puts up his numbers when it matters and Lebron puts up his numbers in garbage time, even then Lebron have absolutely no case over Wade, if we remember how this have been the "garbage time" finals for Lebron, that you have to be downright retarded to say Lebron have been outplaying Wade. The only thing Lebron have been better is stat padding, but that was a given from the start, it's what he is.

[LakersForlife]

if miami wins Dwade MVP just shows lebron is a poor mans pippen you cant even notice James at Clutch time:facepalm . cant compare james to jordan and kobe

[Jacks3]

Lebron commanded so much attention that Pop put an overweight and washed up Boris on him, and Kawhi on Wade. Once again, you are beyond retarded and know nothing about basketball.
Except Kawhi was only on Wade for stretches and he still didn't see half the attention LeBron got. Once again, get Wade's dick out of your mouth, you retarded moron.

[Jacks3]

Wade may had a better numbers tonight, but he was largely responsible for the huge amount of **** ups during their run in the 3rd quarter.

Bricking layups (yeah, LeBron did that too), going 1 on 5 and losing the ball, letting every Green's shot to be open...
Very true. Just another garbage game in a postseason full of them for D-Whistle.

Horrible efficiency (50.7% TS)
Horrible defense
4 turnovers

Pathetic.

[juju151111]

Except Kawhi was only on Wade for stretches and he still didn't see half the attention LeBron got. Once again, get Wade's dick out of your mouth, you retarded moron.
Boris diaw played him one on one with help defense. Wat attention are u talking about?

[Jacks3]

2013 postseason for Wade (21 games):

15.6/5.0/4.4/49.9% TS.

Absolutely horrible. Worst post-season for a so-called "superstar" in history!

:roll:

[Frozen1]

From what i saw, it was Wade, not lebron, who made 4 jumpers in the third quarter to cut the lead to 1. Wade was benched then and came back trailing by 14 in the 4th.

[Dresta]

Why is Jacks3 always in every thread about Wade bashing him simply because he loves Kobe so much?

That shit's depressing man.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Why is Jacks3 always in every thread about Wade bashing him simply because he loves Kobe so much?

That shit's depressing man.

It's not like he's wrong.

[BBallZen83]

Wade was much better in game 4. He had lots of bonehead plays last night.

[Dresta]

It's not like he's wrong.
He is both wrong and discussing something completely irrelevant to the thread.

This thread attests to how Wade has outplayed Bron the last 3 games, which he has. That if he continues to play as he has and the Heat win that he could well win finals mvp. How he performed in the earlier rounds (while banged up against two of the most physical teams in the league btw) has absolutely no bearing or relevance to this. Jacks3 is simply relentlessly pursuing his Kobe agenda with the fervent zeal of a religious maniac.

(perfect example of this is that if Kobe had had the game Wade just had in the finals, Jacks3 would be tonguing his rectum, not bashing him for being shit)

[K Xerxes]

I thought LeBron was better than Wade last night, mainly on the defensive end, but they were both subpar.

Actually, it might be fair to say that Wade was way above par given the atrocious playoffs he's had, game 4 notwithstanding.

[Akhenaten]

Wade may had a better numbers tonight, but he was largely responsible for the huge amount of **** ups during their run in the 3rd quarter.

Bricking layups (yeah, LeBron did that too), going 1 on 5 and losing the ball, letting every Green's shot to be open...


I believe they were down 1 when Wade sat in the 3rd, down 14 when he came back with about 10:30 left in the 4th :confusedshrug:

[Hardjelly]

From what i saw, it was Wade, not lebron, who made 4 jumpers in the third quarter to cut the lead to 1. Wade was benched then and came back trailing by 14 in the 4th.

It was a Wade jumpshot + and1 (Battier) that cut the Spurs lead to 1. Spo benched Wade to save him for the 4th quarter. Had the Heat held on with Wade resting, they had a real good chance of going up 3-2.

[Replay32]

Wade's perimeter defense was horrible. Dude keeps leaving Green for no reason. He played ok offensively though. Not great. And he also had some head scratching unforced turnovers.

I thought overall the Heat played well enough as a team to win the game on most nights, but the spurs shot 60% from the field. That's just crazy.

[aj1987]

Jacks3, there's a reason why only 3-5 people agree with you. You're as smart as a brain dead rodent. Lebron got shut down by Boris ****ing Diaw. Wait... right now, I'm pretty sure that you're a troll because nobody can be this stupid.

All-D First Team - Get shut down by an over weight scrub who started only 20games.
DPOY runner up - Get shut down by Kawhi, who got scorched by Wade
4xMVP - score 25 points on 8-22 (48 TS%)
Apparently better than Kobe and yet can't will his team to a win single handedly.
Had a better game than Wade and shot worse than him in the 4th and had more TO's.
Top 11 GOAT and still can't average more than 22 PPG against a front court of a 37 y.o. Duncan, Tiago "the scrub" splitter, Boris "600 LBS" Diaw, and Kawhi "2nd year" Leonard.
Top 11 GOAT and can't shoot better than 44%
You love stats, right? Wade in Game 5 DRTG: 109. Lebron: 109.


Dwayne Wade in his 2nd and 3rd year was destroying an all time great defensive team (Pistons).
Lebron is struggling to score 22 PPG on 44%.

And yea, you can go back to blowing your dad, bitch.