With two championships, where does LeBron James rank all-time as a player?

[hawkfan]

With two championships, where does LeBron James rank all-time as a player?

[D.J.]

Right around 10.

[Smoke117]

Two championships (2 FMVP's) and four MVP's is going to put you in the top 10.

[bdreason]

I have him at #11 all-time.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Not sure, but two more championships (one has to be next year) and an MVP or two and he's the greatest ever in terms of overall achievements and stats. So high now, one would presume.

[ripthekik]

definitely in contention for top 10. He fighting for the last spot with hakeem. I'm 50/50 about it now, pretty neck to neck

[Shade8780]

Top 10

[noob cake]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. LeBron James
10. Hakeem Olajuwon

[Graviton]

Either Top 10 or right outside, Hakeem is the 1st to get booted, then Kobe/Bird/Shaq/Duncan/Magic if Lebron wins 2 more rings. I think he can end up 5-6 all time but never quite pass Jordan/Kareem/Russel/Wilt.

[dbk123]

somwhere from 8-10. id say its closer to 10 than 8

[DaSeba5]

Top 10 IMO

[DMV2]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. LeBron James
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
+1

[hitman24]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. LeBron James
10. Hakeem Olajuwon


what is wrong with you? honestly a noob cake

[razzredazzre]

top 15

[Beastmode88]

If Lebron didn't have Wade or Bosh would he still win 2 rings?

[Lebron23]

Top 8

[Miserio]

Coach Nick just said he's top 3 'easy'.

[Remix]

definitely in contention for top 10. He fighting for the last spot with hakeem. I'm 50/50 about it now, pretty neck to neck
this. when you consider lbj's 4 mvps arent as impressive. if he played the same years as hakeem, would he have more than 2, who knows. maybe not.

[KG215]

Not sure, but two more championships (one has to be next year) and an MVP or two and he's the greatest ever in terms of overall achievements and stats. So high now, one would presume.
How would he had have better achievements AND stats than Jordan with 4 rings, 4 FMVP's, and 5 or 6 MVP's?

[madmax]

he's a GOAT already...beating All-Time great team aided by the refs takes enormous balls and will to achieve.

[CelticBaller]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. LeBron James
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
:biggums:

[DFish24]

1. Kareem
2. Jordan
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Magic
6. Shaq
7. Bird
8. Duncan
9. Kobe
10.Lebron/Hakeem

[Pushxx]

He has passed Hakeem at #10. He's a hair behind Duncan/Kobe.

It will take a lot to pass Bird/Wilt/Shaq considering the limited challenges he's had to overcome.

[sportjames23]

Not sure, but two more championships (one has to be next year) and an MVP or two and he's the greatest ever in terms of overall achievements and stats. So high now, one would presume.


2 more rings makes him the greatest in terms of achievements and stats? Do you really want to make me break out MJ's achievements and stats?

[Xsatyr]

I am not putting him over Hakeem. Lebron went ring chasing and is playing with much better teammates. Rockets failed to keep a competitive lineup to play with Hakeem.

[Cousin Oliver]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. LeBron James
10. Hakeem Olajuwon


I'm not even the biggest Kobe guy but he is above the Dream and LeBron.

LeBron would be 11 on my list. I'd probably move him ahead of the Dream in a season or two if he continues to play well. I think his ceiling is probably around 6 or 5 on the top ten.

[Linspired]

Mj
Russell
Magic
Wilt
Kareem
Shaquille
Duncan
Bird
Hakeem
Kobe
Bron

[noob cake]

I'm not even the biggest Kobe guy but he is above the Dream and LeBron.

LeBron would be 11 on my list. I'd probably move him ahead of the Dream in a season or two if he continues to play well. I think his ceiling is probably around 6 or 5 on the top ten.

In no world is Kobe above Hakeem.

LeBron is above Hakeem. Thus LeBron > Kobe.

[DatAsh]

2 more rings makes him the greatest in terms of achievements and stats? Do you really want to make me break out MJ's achievements and stats?

Lets just forget about Russell's 11 championships, 5 MVPs, and 11+ DPOY had they existed.

[sportjames23]

Lets just forget about Russell's 11 championships, 5 MVPs, and 11+ DPOY had they existed.


Seeing as though the DPOY award didn't exist before the 1982-83 season, you might wanna use another stat/award. Who's to say Russell would have won 11+ DPOYs?

But since you and some Bron homers wanna go there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Michael_Jordan

[Dragonyeuw]

If Lebron didn't have Wade or Bosh would he still win 2 rings?

That question could be asked of many alltime greats.Does Jordan win 6 without Pippen and Grant/Rodman? Bird win 3 without Mchale and Parish? Magic win 5 without Kareem and Worthy? Shaq never won without an elite guard, first Kobe and then Wade. Duncan had Robinson at the end of his prime and then Parker and Ginobli, and so on.

Hell, Wade and Bosh's play throughout these playoffs was so inconsistent I don't see how anyone can make this argument with a straight face.

[Jacks3]

I have him at #8 now. I really don't see how anyone can have him outside the top 10.

[dannysc305]

8-10

[PickernRoller]

Between #15-20.

[dunksby]

1. KAJ
2. Jordan
3. Russell
4. Magic
5. Shaq
6. Wilt
7. Bird
8. Duncan
9. Kobe
10. Hakeem
11- LeBron

[houston]

:roll: @ Hakeem being top 10 espec over Lebron

[VengefulAngel]

I have him at #9 will move up to 5-7 range if he wins this year. If he 4 peats he'll be in the top 5.

If he 4-peated and got reg season MVP:

4 rings
4 FMVP
5 MVP

^^ Really hypothetical lol

[GimmeThat]

top 15.

His MVPs don't hurt his case.
might push top 10, but that place is crowded.

[AcquiringSteak]

Lets just forget about Russell's 11 championships, 5 MVPs, and 11+ DPOY had they existed.

idiot comment, actually we will, why do people still compare 1950s to now?

[Mr. Jabbar]

top 20, remember those 2 chips bring shame to the nba family

[Keno]

lol at outside top 10. he's top 10 easily and pretty much on pace for a goat resume and he's not even 30. barring any injury next season he's gonna be top 15 all time in scoring.

[Paul George 24]

top 15 at best :banana:

[ArbitraryWater]

Between #15-20.

:roll:

EVERYBODY so far has him top 10 or 11th, but pickernroller comes in with 15-20...

look at these alts/jabbar having him 15-20

[the mesiah]

for me personally he is a top 3 all around TALENT of all time, but as far as overall in a vacuum according to the general consensus to how we rank players I think he is top 8-12 as of rite now since the OP just only said rank him with the 2 chips.As soon as June rolls around and he 3 peats , fmvp and depending who they play he would officially cement that top 8 at the least.If he wouldn't have left cleveland and achieved all this without jumping ship, he would be flat out top 5 no questions asked.

[DMV2]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3-4 Bird & Magic
5-6. Wilt & Russell
7-8 Shaq and Duncan
9. LeBron
10-11. Kobe & Hakeem

[BoutPractice]

Taking the whole picture into account, anywhere in the bottom half of the top 10 seems reasonable. I guess it depends if we're talking about if LeBron retired today or if he played the rest of his career without winning another championship... because in the latter case, he'd most likely accumulate a ton of statistical records to go with his current accolades, perhaps get praise for longevity etc. which would put him closer to 6-7 than 8-9. Don't forget the mythology factor as well. Players get overrated as soon as they retire.

[Combat Wombat]

I've got him at 11.

Whoever doesn't have Kobe Bryant in their top 10 is a fcking idiot.

[ArbitraryWater]

I've got him at 11.

Whoever doesn't have Kobe Bryant in their top 10 is a fcking idiot.

.. as your dad did

[SilkkTheShocker]

Anyone that has Hakeem over LeBron still is a moron

[SilkkTheShocker]

If Lebron didn't have Wade or Bosh would he still win 2 rings?

Would Jordan have any rings without Pippen? Kobe without the best frontcourt in the league? You're not winning rings with no help. Even the least stacked teams of all time had players stepping up their games when it mattered.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Jordan/Kareem
Bird/Magic
Russell/Wilt
Shaq/Duncan
Hakeem/Kobe/Lebron

Smt like that. Lebron will easily be top 5 at the end of his career, top 3 with 2 more rings. Guy is just 29.

[Jlamb47]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3.Kobe
4.Duncan
5. Shaq
6.Magic
7.Bird
8.Lebron
9.Hakeem
10. KG

[MrC1991]

KG at ten? lol but anyways I have him at 10. He booted Hakeem to 11.

[TheMan]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3-4 Bird & Magic
5-6. Wilt & Russell
7-8 Shaq and Duncan
9. LeBron
10-11. Kobe & Hakeem
Solid list

[BigBoss]

Top 11-15. **** mvp awards rewarded by the media. 2 rings from joining 2 all stars in his prime. The asg games, and first team all nbas a lot of guys have. What constitutes a top 10 player? No one in the top 10 took a shortcut. Lebron needs to leave Miami and win one on his own then hes top 10, probably top 5-7. Until then 11-15 is appropriate.

1. Kareem
2. MJ
3. Wilt
4. Magic
5. Kobe
6. Shaq
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Bird
10. Hakeem.

Mount rushmore for oldschool NBA: Magic, Bird, MJ, Kareem.
Mount rushmore for new school NBA: kobe, shaq, duncan, lebron.

[Knoe Itawl]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. LeBron James
10. Hakeem Olajuwon

Noob Cakes' list is spot on for me. Lebron will push is way up a few notches with a win this year.

[Paul George 24]

Anyone that has Hakeem over LeBron still is a moron

hakeem >>>>>>>>>>>> lebron on both end,u mad :confusedshrug:

[Paul George 24]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Tim Duncan
9. LeBron James
10. Hakeem Olajuwon

Noob Cakes' list is spot on for me. Lebron will push is way up a few notches with a win this year.

wait lebron 3 peat,hen he will pass hakeem :banana:

[ThePhantomCreep]

Would Jordan have any rings without Pippen? Kobe without the best frontcourt in the league? You're not winning rings with no help. Even the least stacked teams of all time had players stepping up their games when it mattered.LeBron has unprecedented levels of help, fangirl. He doesn't have role-players like Kerr and Fisher hitting clutch shots, he has Ray Allen hitting them.

Wade and Bosh: 11 all-star appearances BEFORE colluding with LeBron.

Pau and Odom pre-2008? One appearance between the two.

Pippen? Didn't even make an all-star team until year 3.

[Paul George 24]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3.Kobe
4.Duncan
5. Shaq
6.Magic
7.Bird
8.Lebron
9.Hakeem
10. KG

where is wilt & russell :confusedshrug:

[Paul George 24]

Would Jordan have any rings without Pippen? Kobe without the best frontcourt in the league? You're not winning rings with no help. Even the least stacked teams of all time had players stepping up their games when it mattered.

would lebron hv any rings without $tern,wade and bosh :oldlol:

[Paul George 24]

Anyone that has Hakeem over LeBron still is a moron

smarter than u kid :lol
who nevr watch jordan & 90's basketball

[SilkkTheShocker]

would lebron hv any rings without $tern,wade and bosh :oldlol:

He didn't have Bosh for half the 2012 playoffs. And he played like crap in the 2013 playoffs. Wade throughout the whole 2013 postseason. You're overrating Bosh. But continue to prop up the Pacers tranny loving franchise player :applause:

[Andrei89]

Above Kobe. That is all what matters right now.

At the end of his career, we are going to asses where he belongs all time precisely.

[Jlamb47]

where is wilt & russell :confusedshrug:

Didnt watch them play and didnt wanna include people playing in that era. I believe they were great but i dont see them doing the same accomplishments in modern era.

[GODbe]

Top 50. I have him at #45.

1. Godbe Bryant
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. O'neal
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Moses Malone
11. Oscar Robinson
12. Kevin Garnett
13. Scottie Pippen
14. Julius Erving
15. Jerry West
16. Michael Jordan
17. Karl Malone
18. Isaiah Thomas
19. Charles Barkeley
20. David Robinson
21. Kevin McHale
22. Reggie Miller
23. James Worthy
24. Dwyane Wade
25. Bobb Pettit
26. John Havlicek
27. Rick Barry
28. Elvin Hayes
29. Bob Cousy
30. Jason Kidd
31. Carmelo Anthony
32. Kevin Durant
33. Allen Iverson
34. Patrick Ewing
35. Clyde Drexler
36. Steve Nash
37. Sam Jones
38. Dwight Howard
39. Chris Mullin
40. Grant Hill
41. Paul Pierce
42. Rajon Rondo
43. Vince Carter
44. Pau Gasol
45. LeBald Shames

Could potentially move up past Gasol if he wins another * by the time he retires. Definitely not the rest.

[T_L_P]

Top 50. I have him at #45.

1. Godbe Bryant
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. O'neal
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Moses Malone
11. Oscar Robinson
12. Kevin Garnett
13. Scottie Pippen
14. Julius Erving
15. Jerry West
16. Michael Jordan
17. Karl Malone
18. Isaiah Thomas
19. Charles Barkeley
20. David Robinson
21. Kevin McHale
22. Reggie Miller
23. James Worthy
24. Dwyane Wade
25. Bobb Pettit
26. John Havlicek
27. Rick Barry
28. Elvin Hayes
29. Bob Cousy
30. Jason Kidd
31. Carmelo Anthony
32. Kevin Durant
33. Allen Iverson
34. Patrick Ewing
35. Clyde Drexler
36. Steve Nash
37. Sam Jones
38. Dwight Howard
39. Chris Mullin
40. Grant Hill
41. Paul Pierce
42. Rajon Rondo
43. Vince Carter
44. Pau Gasol
45. LeBald Shames

Could potentially move up past Gasol if he wins another * by the time he retires. Definitely not the rest.

:biggums:

Of course you fill the list with people Kobe played with/against, so you can prop him up. :facepalm

Vince Carter in the top 50. Reggie Miller at 22. :facepalm

[AintNoSunshine]

Top 50. I have him at #45.

1. Godbe Bryant
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. O'neal
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Moses Malone
11. Oscar Robinson
12. Kevin Garnett
13. Scottie Pippen
14. Julius Erving
15. Jerry West
16. Michael Jordan
17. Karl Malone
18. Isaiah Thomas
19. Charles Barkeley
20. David Robinson
21. Kevin McHale
22. Reggie Miller
23. James Worthy
24. Dwyane Wade
25. Bobb Pettit
26. John Havlicek
27. Rick Barry
28. Elvin Hayes
29. Bob Cousy
30. Jason Kidd
31. Carmelo Anthony
32. Kevin Durant
33. Allen Iverson
34. Patrick Ewing
35. Clyde Drexler
36. Steve Nash
37. Sam Jones
38. Dwight Howard
39. Chris Mullin
40. Grant Hill
41. Paul Pierce
42. Rajon Rondo
43. Vince Carter
44. Pau Gasol
45. LeBald Shames

Could potentially move up past Gasol if he wins another * by the time he retires. Definitely not the rest.


2/10 troll attempt, what a waste of your own time:oldlol:

[robert_shaww]

Top 50. I have him at #45.

1. Godbe Bryant
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. O'neal
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Moses Malone
11. Oscar Robinson
12. Kevin Garnett
13. Scottie Pippen
14. Julius Erving
15. Jerry West
16. Michael Jordan
17. Karl Malone
18. Isaiah Thomas
19. Charles Barkeley
20. David Robinson
21. Kevin McHale
22. Reggie Miller
23. James Worthy
24. Dwyane Wade
25. Bobb Pettit
26. John Havlicek
27. Rick Barry
28. Elvin Hayes
29. Bob Cousy
30. Jason Kidd
31. Carmelo Anthony
32. Kevin Durant
33. Allen Iverson
34. Patrick Ewing
35. Clyde Drexler
36. Steve Nash
37. Sam Jones
38. Dwight Howard
39. Chris Mullin
40. Grant Hill
41. Paul Pierce
42. Rajon Rondo
43. Vince Carter
44. Pau Gasol
45. LeBald Shames

Could potentially move up past Gasol if he wins another * by the time he retires. Definitely not the rest.

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Do-not-feed-the-troll-atsof-570894_1023_670.jpg

[robert_shaww]

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Do-not-feed-the-troll-atsof-570894_1023_670.jpg

[NumberSix]

top 4

[riseagainst]

Top 50. I have him at #45.

1. Godbe Bryant
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. O'neal
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Moses Malone
11. Oscar Robinson
12. Kevin Garnett
13. Scottie Pippen
14. Julius Erving
15. Jerry West
16. Michael Jordan
17. Karl Malone
18. Isaiah Thomas
19. Charles Barkeley
20. David Robinson
21. Kevin McHale
22. Reggie Miller
23. James Worthy
24. Dwyane Wade
25. Bobb Pettit
26. John Havlicek
27. Rick Barry
28. Elvin Hayes
29. Bob Cousy
30. Jason Kidd
31. Carmelo Anthony
32. Kevin Durant
33. Allen Iverson
34. Patrick Ewing
35. Clyde Drexler
36. Steve Nash
37. Sam Jones
38. Dwight Howard
39. Chris Mullin
40. Grant Hill
41. Paul Pierce
42. Rajon Rondo
43. Vince Carter
44. Pau Gasol
45. LeBald Shames

Could potentially move up past Gasol if he wins another * by the time he retires. Definitely not the rest.


:roll:

[rmt]

#11

[Marchesk]

Right behind Jerry West.

[Combat Wombat]

.. as your dad did

:facepalm

If you're going to insult someone, first make sure the insult actually makes sense and secondly, make sure it's actually funny, you simple c#nt.

Another example of the brain-dead teenagers who follow the Heat.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

:biggums:

Of course you fill the list with people Kobe played with/against, so you can prop him up. :facepalm

Vince Carter in the top 50. Reggie Miller at 22. :facepalm

As a Kobe stan even I know this was supposed to be a troll post

[Brokenbeat]

:facepalm

If you're going to insult someone, first make sure the insult actually makes sense and secondly, make sure it's actually funny, you simple c#nt.

Another example of the brain-dead teenagers who follow the Heat.


Germans are a lot of things, but funny isn't one of them. :confusedshrug:

[Hey Yo]

Right behind Jerry West.
????

Jerry West was the biggest choker in NBA history. Lost 8 of the 9 Finals he played in.

[Kvnzhangyay]

#8 currently. Suprised Bird is still ranked so high on people's lists; pretty much on all other forums Bird has dropped pretty rapidly recently

[JohnFreeman]

Top 10, Kobe at 11-12

[stalkerforlife]

The two titles are tarnished because of the cowardly collusion and super team.

He's top 30 to me.

[GoSpursGo1984]

Behind Kobe

[bdreason]

I have him at #11 right now.

[SexSymbol]

11-13 range

[JohnMax]

The two titles are tarnished because of the cowardly collusion and super team.

He's top 30 to me.

http://myreactiongifs.com/gifs/thumbsupcomputerkid.gif

[Spurs5Rings2014]

:applause:

[Soundwave]

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Shaq
4. Wilt
5. Russell
6. Kobe
7. Magic
8. Duncan
9. Bird
10. LeBron
11. Hakeem

Is where I have it right now, but I tend to hold Shaq in higher esteem than some others.

[sdot_thadon]

Has a strong case anywhere from 7ish down to 10. Building a case for 6 as we speak.

[masonanddixon]

He was only good in one Finals. Hard to take his case too seriously when he jumped ship in his prime in the East.

I have him in the 35-50 range.

[iamgine]

Around #7

[D-Wade316]

1. Russell
2. Jordan
3. Kareem
4. Duncan
5. Shaq
6. Wilt
7. Magic
8. Lebron
9. Bird
10. Hakeem or Kobe

[aj1987]

1. MJ
2. Kareem
3. Shaq
4. Russell
5. Magic
6. Duncan
7. Wilt
8. Kobe
9. Bird
10. LeBron

Top 10 lists are arbitrary AF and I have like 5 or 6 different ones. If he wins another ring + FMVP, he jumps to #7. Add another MVP to that, #5.

[sportjames23]

1. MJ
2. Michael Jordan
3. Air
4. Money
5. His Airness
6. Black Jesus
7. GOAT
8. Jumpman
9. Michael Jeffrey Jordan
10. ESPN Athlete of the Century

[aj1987]

1. MJ
2. Michael Jordan
3. Air
4. Money
5. His Airness
6. Black Jesus
7. GOAT
8. Jumpman
9. Michael Jeffrey Jordan
10. ESPN Athlete of the Century
Did you wipe your mouth after?

[sportjames23]

Did you wipe your mouth after?


Do you swallow Bron's nut?

[aj1987]

Do you swallow Bron's nut?
:facepalm

Stick to posting smilies, kid.

[plowking]

Did you wipe your mouth after?

http://i.imgur.com/v8LSE.gif

[Anaximandro1]

9 Hakeem
10 Kobe
11 LeBron


2/6 in the finals ... LeBron failed to dominate Bruce Bowen, Jason Terry, Marion, Kawhi and Iggy

Kawhi/Iggy winning back to back FMVP is the final nail on James' legacy coffin.


2007 NBA Finals


LeBron 22.0 ppg, 7.0 rb, 6.8 as, FG% .356, TS% .428

2011 NBA Finals (smh)

LeBron 17.8 ppg, TS% .541 / Terry 18.0 ppg, TS% .605


2014 NBA Finals - Series Tied 1-1 (LeBron had the trophy in his hands)


Game 3/4/5

Kawhi 23.7 ppg, 9.3 rb, 2.3 as, 2.0 stl, 2.0 blk, TS% .818

LeBron 27.0 ppg, 7.7 rb, 4.7 as, 1.7 stl, 0.7 blk, TS% .676


This year was worse ... Iggy became the first FMVP who did not start a single regular season game

2015 NBA Finals - Cavs 2-1 (Again, LeBron had the trophy in his hands)

Game 4

Iggy 22 pts, 8 rb, 1 stl, TS% .693

LeBron 20 pts, 12 rb, 8 as, TS% .379

Game 6

Iggy 25 pts, 5 rb, 5 as, 2 stl, TS% .512

LeBron 32 pts, 18 rb, 9 as, 2 stl, TS% .438

Not to mention that Delly was the MVP in game 2 (LeBron and Curry's shooting numbers were quite bad)

2015 NBA Finals - Game 2

Lebron 39 pts , FG% .314 , TS% .454


No more excuses for LeBron

-LeBron got everything handed to him on a silver platter:

1) Perimeter friendly rules since day 1

2) Duncan/Shaq/Kobe/Dirk/KG were too old to compete with LeBron

3) LeBron colluded to form a super team

4) the icing on the cake: LeBron has played in a historical weak East (Cavs are overwhelming favorites in 2016)

Lebron has six NBA Finals appearances and he has only defeated seven 50+ win teams . It's a complete joke.

http://i.imgur.com/CIu6gDI.jpg

[Horatio33]

MJ
Russel
Magic
Kareem
Duncan
LeBron
Bird
Kobe
Shaq
Hakeem

[derb2k2]

He was only good in one Finals. Hard to take his case too seriously when he jumped ship in his prime in the East.

I have him in the 35-50 range.


This is ban-worthy and it's not even funny. As much as you'd like to deny his two championships, they're there.

[Mr. Jabbar]

25-32

[scandisk_]

25-32

26 :banana:

[Mr. Jabbar]

26 :banana:

:roll:

[sportjames23]

:facepalm

Stick to posting smilies, kid.


Why you mad, fggt?

[aj1987]

Why you mad, fggt?
Meltdown. :oldlol:

[pauk]

Lebron has same resume as Bird but with 1 more MVP and plenty defensive honors and then milestones, stats if it means anything to you... Bird has 1 more championship but it didnt come the way his other two came, Cedric Maxwell infact won the FMVP there in a Finals series performance of Bird which makes even Lebrons 11' Finals look pretty damn good.

My point is, wherever Bird is in your lists Lebron should be glued right next to him, if not above then right exactly glued behind him and if Lebron isnt that then you might aswell remove him and Bird from your top 10.....