ray allen travelled to get behind the line on that game winning 3

[kennethgriffin]

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gathers 3 steps to make it behind the line without putting the ball on the floor

[tomtucker]

you are allowed 3 steps..........:confusedshrug:

[kennethgriffin]

you are allowed 3 steps..........:confusedshrug:

you're allowed 2 and a half steps .......... ( after your dribble )


before your dribble you can take 1 step. must establish a pivot foot. and put the ball down before that foot leaves the ground

[plowking]

We can see the shadow of the bottom of his foot in the first frame. No travel.

[HelterSkelter]

show this to the league.

goodluck.

[HardwoodLegend]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26HANFrnozQ

Not a travel.

Study it, kenneth.

[kennethgriffin]

how many times have we seen a guy catch the ball... start his dribble and the ref calls the travel because he picked up his pivot foot before dribbling?


it happens all the time

[Kews1]

you try so hard, do you have a real life?

[kennethgriffin]

We can see the shadow of the bottom of his foot in the first frame. No travel.

lol are you dumb... the other foot is moving backwards off the ground. if his right foot isnt on the ground. then his left foot must be... unless hes levitating


then again ... he is jesus shuttlesworth

:confusedshrug:

[All Net]

Nope.

[ace23]

He did, but that's never called in the NBA. And it wasn't a game-winning shot.

[HardwoodLegend]

lol are you dumb... the other foot is moving backwards off the ground. if his right foot isnt on the ground. then his left foot must be... unless hes levitating


then again ... he is jesus shuttlesworth

:confusedshrug:

He left the ground and was in the process of getting behind the line before the pass reached him.

[kennethgriffin]

He left the ground and was in the process of getting behind the line before the pass reached him.

he gallops?

:lol


see... whats funny is that he would have traveled even without taking 3 steps.

even 2 steps before your first dribble is a travel.

but he took 3 lol

[HardwoodLegend]

he gallops?

:lol

Uhh yea. It was a reverse gallop manuever. Not that uncommon.

[kennethgriffin]

Uhh yea. It was a reverse gallop manuever. Not that uncommon.


so your saying he took 2 steps instead of 3


great... so he traveled anyway

:lol

A) catch ball.

B) pick foot off ground and plant it down in another area

C) now you must either put the ball down to pick up your other foot ( the established pivot foot ) or jump to shoot/pass

D) ray allen picks up his pivot foot and plants it next to his other foot he just moved

E) traveling

[kennethgriffin]

:lol

[WayOfWade]

Your gather step is when your foot's on the ground when you pick up your dribble. Whether picking up your dribble means your last dribble or when the ball is officially picked up is up to you to decide, but you always get 2 steps afterward.

[ILLsmak]

He did, but that's never called in the NBA. And it wasn't a game-winning shot.

This, nearly every person in the NBA shuffles like that after a catch.

-Smak

[kennethgriffin]

This, nearly every person in the NBA shuffles like that after a catch.

-Smak


its rarely ever called because it rarely ever leads to the all time biggest turn around shot in nba history


at what point do you bite the bullet and make the correct call

:confusedshrug:

[AintNoSunshine]

You should file a complaint to nba, they might rescind their championship, it's not too late yet

[kennethgriffin]

You should file a complaint to nba, they might rescind their championship, it's not too late yet
:cheers:

[PizzamanIRL]

Mario Chalmers travelled in the last 2 seconds of game 7. He started jumping up and down with the ball in his hand before the buzzer went off. Spurs could have made a 7 point play out of that.

[kobeef24]

God you're pathetic

[SpurrDurr]

Dude let it go, they won.

[HardwoodLegend]

:cheers:

I remember your thread about wanting the Heat to win though? To prevent Tim Duncan from moving closer to Kobe?

[HardwoodLegend]

so your saying he took 2 steps instead of 3


great... so he traveled anyway

:lol

A) catch ball.

B) pick foot off ground and plant it down in another area

C) now you must either put the ball down to pick up your other foot ( the established pivot foot ) or jump to shoot/pass

D) ray allen picks up his pivot foot and plants it next to his other foot he just moved

E) traveling

Switch A and B, and it changes everything.

He caught the ball while he was mid-air in the process of his reverse gallop.

[Rasheed1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=S3p1CxUnL1A&feature=endscreen

Damn.... You gotta feel like a total sh*thead if you were a miami fan at that game and you left early :oldlol:

Im just thinking about how stupid those fans must have felt when they was standing outside listening to the building erupt after that 3.. and they missed it

incredible...

[DStebb716]

Not a travel. Move on.

[TheReal Kendall]

:bowdown:

[I<3NBA]

Kobe raped.

[pegasus]

He did, but that's never called in the NBA. And it wasn't a game-winning shot.
You're right. It was a championship-winning shot.

[Haymaker]

Can we close this chapter already and move on? Next season starts soon.

[tmacattack33]

I don't think it was a travel.

But MJ's shot on Russell was a push-off.

:oldlol:

[Parps]

not a travel imo

[nathanjizzle]

its 2 steps, and you dont count steps until the player secures the ball so he took 0 steps with the ball without dribbling which is legal. the problem are people that dont even play basketball or dont play very well that dont understand that simple concept.

[Mass Debator]

Doesn't look like a travel and upon closer examination, it's not a travel.
I can see why it might be arguable without seeing a replay but the replay is as clear as day.

[SilkkTheShocker]

It's amazing how bad that Ray Allen shot mind f.ucked Heat haters. Some people still haven't recovered from it yet

[AintNoSunshine]

The league says it's not, and that's what matters, suck it up haters stop thinking and get all mad about it

[Marchesk]

It's amazing how bad that Ray Allen shot mind f.ucked Heat haters. Some people still haven't recovered from it yet

It's amazing how close we all came to a summer of discussing Lebron's bricks and turnovers in the closing minute of that game.

[SCdac]

I'm a Spurs fan and I don't even care really.

Spurs in the last 3-4 years have not been great at closing games relative to the team's prime (mid-2000's)... so, it's not an isolated incident to lose close games in general.

Doesn't bother me as much as Derrick Fisher clearly fouling Brent Barry on a three-attempt in the WCF, then the league admitting they missed the call :mad:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3416412

[Euroleague]

Almost every player in the NBA travels on every single possession.

The NBA is known around the world as the National Travel Association. Why would anyone be surprised if he traveled on that play?

LeBron travels about 30 times a game.

[oh the horror]

He traveled but really, what ref is going to make that call during the closing seconds of a playoff championship game?

[7_cody]

Even if it was a travel per textbook, no NBA referee is going to call something that close when it could cost a team a championship

You can't call that anyway - just can't - what if you got the call wrong? oh boy.....

edit: sorry, didn't see the post before mine

[JtotheIzzo]

watch the video it is clearly not a travel.

Kobe stans:facepalm

[DuMa]

kobe stans always trying to revise NBA history :facepalm

[ihoopallday]

:lol "game winning 3" That shot actually tied the game OP.

[Akhenaten]

so your saying he took 2 steps instead of 3


great... so he traveled anyway

:lol

A) catch ball.

B) pick foot off ground and plant it down in another area

This implies he caught the ball at a standstill and then took steps backward (which is obviously no true), if that were the case then it's a travel regardless of how many steps he takes backward if he doesn't first dribble the ball (you can only pivot or jab if you catch the ball in a standstill position).


this the series of events:


:29 He catches the in the air which you moronically asked if he galloped :facepalm (for your sake I hope you were being coy, I find it hard to believe a person can genuinely be that dense). All he did was hop into the pass which is a very common shooting technique, the Coach Nick idiot calls it swaying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-ZZ7nuFTkE

he right foot lands first, then his left (this establishes his left as his "pivot" ), finally he brings his right foot back, balances up and shoots. Just in case your counting when he brings the right foot back for the last time as a "step" it's not.

It's the same concept as doing a hop step THEN pioting...WHICH IS 100% legal or the rondo/hakeem move where you drive one way take two steps then pivot back the other way.


Some of you people sit on here and type and discuss basketball ALL DAY, watch a million games and still simple nuances like this escape your understanding.

Here's another example of a play many ish'ers called a travel even after the NBA front office clearly explained the rule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67T40Vtk6GI

same concept...SMARTEN UP NAS

[zoom17]

:lol "game winning 3" That shot actually tied the game OP.

If your gonna make a stupid thread at least title it right:oldlol:

[TheCorporation]

you try so hard, do you have a real life?

:roll: :roll: :lol :roll: :roll:

[fefe]

He took one more step than allowed.

caught the ball in mid air, landed on his right, stepped with his left, and stepped again with his right.
That is one too many steps :)

But people saying it's rarely called in the NBA are absolutely right. Especially at this point in the nba finals.

He would probably not get away with it in Europe, but it's absolutely normal in the NBA.