LeBrons Finals Performance

[coin24]

You're comparing that shit to MJ?:roll:

Carried by his stacked team games 1-5 and 3/4 of game 6..
If Ray Allen isn't the clutchest bastard ever, Lebron is a laughing stock..
His plays to close game 6 were hilarious, brick after turnover after turnover!!

Top 5 GOAT? :roll: :roll:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Only RG and all of his agreeing accounts feel that way: Tony Montana, Electric Slide, Mr Exlax, etc.

[AintNoSunshine]

:lol So stacked only 4 other teammate can even score a point in Game 7 right?

And of these 4 teammates, one scored 3 points, another had the one and only good game in the entire playoffs, and another had more turnover than assists as the starting point guard. And the last was injured and gives you a good game in every 3 games.

His "superstar" power forward was scoreless in Game 7 of the finals. :lol So stacked. I wonder if kobe can win the title with Pau scoring 0 points while he's shooting 6/24 himself:roll:

[plowking]

http://i.imgur.com/OQDMGkv.png

[coin24]

:lol So stacked only 4 other teammate can even score a point in Game 7 right?

And of these 4 teammates, one scored 3 points, another had the one and only good game in the entire playoffs, and another had more turnover than assists as the starting point guard. And the last was injured and gives you a good game in every 3 games.

His "superstar" power forward was scoreless in Game 7 of the finals. :lol So stacked. I wonder if kobe can win the title with Pau scoring 0 points while he's shooting 6/24 himself:roll:


Can you read?

I didn't mention game 7. Funny that's the only game you talk about:facepalm


Nice Kobe rant:oldlol:

[poido123]

:lol So stacked only 4 other teammate can even score a point in Game 7 right?

And of these 4 teammates, one scored 3 points, another had the one and only good game in the entire playoffs, and another had more turnover than assists as the starting point guard. And the last was injured and gives you a good game in every 3 games.

His "superstar" power forward was scoreless in Game 7 of the finals. :lol So stacked. I wonder if kobe can win the title with Pau scoring 0 points while he's shooting 6/24 himself:roll:

So if you're not agreeing with OP and going on to explain Lebron's teammates performances etc, then you are of the belief that Lebron should be top 5 right? :oldlol:

[AintNoSunshine]

So if you're not agreeing with OP and going on to explain Lebron's teammates performances etc, then you are of the belief that Lebron should be top 5 right? :oldlol:


I have no idea how your response respond to what I wrote. If using the biggest game of their respective career as example isn't indicative enough for you, then how about this: in the playoffs Lebron leads his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and shuts down the opposing team's superstar point guard.

He isn't top 5 yet but his finals performance is nothing to sneeze at, especially his performance in game 7 is simply epic. Don't know why a kobe fan would have the nerve to speak about a game 7 anyway:confusedshrug:

[cos88]

op is dat a rapist in your avatar?

[nashwade]

did Kerr, Kukoc, Paxson not hit any key baskets for MJ?

[coin24]

I have no idea how your response respond to what I wrote. If using the biggest game of their respective career as example isn't indicative enough for you, then how about this: in the playoffs Lebron leads his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and shuts down the opposing team's superstar point guard.

He isn't top 5 yet but his finals performance is nothing to sneeze at, especially his performance in game 7 is simply epic. Don't know why a kobe fan would have the nerve to speak about a game 7 anyway:confusedshrug:


That's funny, I can't find mention of said game 7???:lol

Your comprehension level = full retard

[coin24]

did Kerr, Kukoc, Paxson not hit any key baskets for MJ?

Did MJ go missing for the first 5 and 3/4 games of a finals series??

[HelterSkelter]

:facepalm When will we ever mature as a fan?

THEIR STAR PLAYER/S LEAD, BUT TEAMS STILL WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS.

AND THE LEADERS WILL ALWAYS GET THE CREDIT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

ALL OF THEM CONTRIBUTED IN THE WIN. IT'S A DAMN OLD CLICHE BUT NONE OF THAT IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT THEM.

(DON'T TAKE THAT LITERALLY, HEAT WOULD WIN WITHOUT JARVIS VARNADO, LAKERS WOULD WIN WITHOUT ADAM MORRISON, BULLS WOULD WIN WITHOUT RUSTY LARUE OR KEITH BOOTH, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS)

LEBRON PLAYED WELL AND WAS FINALLY CLUTCH. DEAL WITH IT. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

[poido123]

Did MJ go missing for the first 5 and 3/4 games of a finals series??

While I think that Lebron was the main reason Heat have been successful, if you want to make outlandish claims about Lebron's status alltime top 5 or comparing him to Jordan, then he needs to be compared as such.

So pretty much this. MJ wouldn't go missing for stretches of games in the finals like OP is pointing out here.

[Guy Ledouche]

"stacked team" :roll:

At least you guys still have the 5 rings argument... right?

[RRR3]

Tell me more about wades legendary 15 ppg

Tell me more about boshs astounding 12 ppg


"stacked"

He had less help than bean did in 09-10


Get mad

[OldSchoolBBall]

It's more than his overall performance looked at as a whole, it's how the dude was invisible and/or passive for LONG stretches of several games. Posting this actually got me suspended from RealGM for a day, because these Lebron nut-huggers can't deal with the truth:

Lebron was 1-9 FG for 9 points in 31 minutes of game time from the 4:45 mark of the first quarter through the beginning of the 4th quarter in game 6. But yeah, you guys are right - he hasn't disappeared or been rendered ineffective for large stretches of the series! How could I not see the light!? :oldlol:

So he's 12-27 from midrange for the series? Wow, great (note: this was prior to game 7). So he's attempted just 4-5 midrange shots per game despite the 6-9 foot cushion they've been giving him all series, daring him to take those shots. Like I said: dude has been invisible for large stretches of the series, is mentally shook, and has no confidence whatsoever in his shot. The way they've been playing him, he should have been attempting like 10+ 15-20 footers per game and making a great % of them due to the space they're giving him. Him hardly attempting any such shots is precisely what I'm talking about. This is to say nothing of the fact that the majority of these shots (and makes) come in clusters, usually only when the Heat are up and playing well.

Here are some other long stretches where he has disappeared. And it's not like this is when his team is up comfortably (which, oddly enough, is when he plays his best - he's a front-runner in that respect) - this is when they are down or the game is very much in question, and he just disappears or does nothing for long stretches of time.

From game 5:

4:45 mark of the 1st quarter through the 5:45 mark of the second quarter (11 minutes of game time): the score is tied 17-17 at the start of this stretch, and SA then goes on a 12-0 run and eventually a 19-5 run to end that stretch up 47-34. During these 11 minutes, Lebron goes 0-3 FG for 0 points. Invisible.

10:42 mark of the 3rd quarter through 3:27 mark of the 4th quarter (19 minutes of game time): Lebron goes 0-7 FG for 1 point. San Antonio goes from a 1 point lead at the start of this stretch to a 15 point lead at the end of it, and Lebron is (again) invisible.

In case you're counting, that makes 30 minutes of game time in game 5 where Lebron went a combined 0-10 from the field for 1 point. During these 30 minutes, SA went from being tied or only up 1 point to having monstrous leads each time (that's the worst part - it'd be a bit different if the Heat were up or playing well). And the Heat's leader, Lebron James, did nothing to counter it. Invisible. Shook.


Game 3:

3:24 mark of the 1st quarter through the 2:04 mark of the second quarter (13+ minutes of game time): 0-4 FG for 0 points. The Heat went from being down 3 points to being down 8 points during this time.

He then makes a layup (shock!) at the 2:04 mark of the 2nd quarter, which is followed by this stretch of nothingness:

2:04 mark of the 2nd quarter through the 1:36 mark of the 3rd quarter (12.5 minutes of game time): 0-5 FG for 0 points. During this stretch, the Heat went from being down 3 to being down 19 points, and Lebron - fearless leader - did nothing at all.

In total, from the 3:24 mark of the 1st quarter through the 1:36 mark of the 3rd quarter (26 minutes of game time), Lebron was 1-10 from the field for 2 points. During this time, San Antonio was +21. They opened up a huge lead and Lebron did bubkes.


Please, PLEASE don't make me do this type of analysis for other games, because it won't be pretty. GOAT my ass. You people are comically blind to his shortcomings and his shrinking from the moment. As I said, he has been INVISIBLE for large stretches of this series - 70-80% if I had to estimate. His stretches of good play have come in short spurts for the most part. This salvages his overall numbers, making it look somewhat respectable, but to anyone who has actually been watching the series - and is not a huge Lebron fan like several folks in this thread - he has looked invisible and timid for most of the series.

People are absolutely out of their mind comparing this dude to Jordan. He was a Ray Allen shot away from being a stooge and a laughing stock, and it was in large part due to his own poor play and invisibility.

[Doranku]

Tell me more about wades legendary 15 ppg

Tell me more about boshs astounding 12 ppg


"stacked"

He had less help than bean did in 09-10


Get mad

Let's look at the competition that LeBron faced while playing with a superstar SG and all-star PF...

First round, the Brandon Jennings led mighty Bucks!!! Fear the deer. :roll:

Second round, the mighty NATE ROBINSON :eek: led Bulls!!! And they were only missing their two best players! :roll:

ECF, the fearsome Paul George led Pacers! A fierce team led by an equally fierce fringe all-star SF coming fresh off his third season!!! How did the Heat make it out alive? :roll:

And then the finals, straight out of the museum, the 37 year old Tim Duncan led Spurs!!! The Heat should have been no match for these prehistoric beasts, but somehow LeBron guided his peasants to a 7 game series win! All hail Lord LeBron!!! :roll:































:roll:

[2010splash]

25/11/7 on 45% and all-time defense. Not Jordan yet, but easily in the top 5 all time. Not to mention the clutchness of dropping 37/12 in Game 7 + the Finals-clinching jumper.

Kobe on the other hand gets absolutely SHUT DOWN by guys like Prince, Pierce, etc. Kobe has a claim for arguably the worst Game 7 Finals performance in NBA history along with 1994 Starks with his 6/24 Game 7 brickfest.

Kobe also got absolutely lit up by Pierce in 2008 as well. What's alarming is a 45% shooting Finals for LeBron is just ordinary by his standards yet it is a higher percentage than Kobe has shot in SIX out of SEVEN Finals appearances. This guy is supposedly top 10 all time!!:roll:

[coin24]

It's more than his overall performance looked at as a whole, it's how the dude was invisible and/or passive for LONG stretches of several games. Posting this actually got me suspended from RealGM for a day, because these Lebron nut-huggers can't deal with the truth:

Lebron was 1-9 FG for 9 points in 31 minutes of game time from the 4:45 mark of the first quarter through the beginning of the 4th quarter in game 6. But yeah, you guys are right - he hasn't disappeared or been rendered ineffective for large stretches of the series! How could I not see the light!? :oldlol:

So he's 12-27 from midrange for the series? Wow, great (note: this was prior to game 7). So he's attempted just 4-5 midrange shots per game despite the 6-9 foot cushion they've been giving him all series, daring him to take those shots. Like I said: dude has been invisible for large stretches of the series, is mentally shook, and has no confidence whatsoever in his shot. The way they've been playing him, he should have been attempting like 10+ 15-20 footers per game and making a great % of them due to the space they're giving him. Him hardly attempting any such shots is precisely what I'm talking about. This is to say nothing of the fact that the majority of these shots (and makes) come in clusters, usually only when the Heat are up and playing well.

Here are some other long stretches where he has disappeared. And it's not like this is when his team is up comfortably (which, oddly enough, is when he plays his best - he's a front-runner in that respect) - this is when they are down or the game is very much in question, and he just disappears or does nothing for long stretches of time.

From game 5:

4:45 mark of the 1st quarter through the 5:45 mark of the second quarter (11 minutes of game time): the score is tied 17-17 at the start of this stretch, and SA then goes on a 12-0 run and eventually a 19-5 run to end that stretch up 47-34. During these 11 minutes, Lebron goes 0-3 FG for 0 points. Invisible.

10:42 mark of the 3rd quarter through 3:27 mark of the 4th quarter (19 minutes of game time): Lebron goes 0-7 FG for 1 point. San Antonio goes from a 1 point lead at the start of this stretch to a 15 point lead at the end of it, and Lebron is (again) invisible.

In case you're counting, that makes 30 minutes of game time in game 5 where Lebron went a combined 0-10 from the field for 1 point. During these 30 minutes, SA went from being tied or only up 1 point to having monstrous leads each time (that's the worst part - it'd be a bit different if the Heat were up or playing well). And the Heat's leader, Lebron James, did nothing to counter it. Invisible. Shook.


Game 3:

3:24 mark of the 1st quarter through the 2:04 mark of the second quarter (13+ minutes of game time): 0-4 FG for 0 points. The Heat went from being down 3 points to being down 8 points during this time.

He then makes a layup (shock!) at the 2:04 mark of the 2nd quarter, which is followed by this stretch of nothingness:

2:04 mark of the 2nd quarter through the 1:36 mark of the 3rd quarter (12.5 minutes of game time): 0-5 FG for 0 points. During this stretch, the Heat went from being down 3 to being down 19 points, and Lebron - fearless leader - did nothing at all.

In total, from the 3:24 mark of the 1st quarter through the 1:36 mark of the 3rd quarter (26 minutes of game time), Lebron was 1-10 from the field for 2 points. During this time, San Antonio was +21. They opened up a huge lead and Lebron did bubkes.


Please, PLEASE don't make me do this type of analysis for other games, because it won't be pretty. GOAT my ass. You people are comically blind to his shortcomings and his shrinking from the moment. As I said, he has been INVISIBLE for large stretches of this series - 70-80% if I had to estimate. His stretches of good play have come in short spurts for the most part. This salvages his overall numbers, making it look somewhat respectable, but to anyone who has actually been watching the series - and is not a huge Lebron fan like several folks in this thread - he has looked invisible and timid for most of the series.

People are absolutely out of their mind comparing this dude to Jordan. He was a Ray Allen shot away from being a stooge and a laughing stock, and it was in large part due to his own poor play and invisibility.

:applause: :applause:

This:applause:
Thank you! Some one else that actually watched the series and doesn't just point to bronzeys padded stat averages for the whole series..
Even Lebron stans were ready to jump ship after game 5:oldlol: now he's being compared to MJ???:roll:

[coin24]

25/11/7 on 45% and all-time defense. Not Jordan yet, but easily in the top 5 all time. Not to mention the clutchness of dropping 37/12 in Game 7 + the Finals-clinching jumper.

Kobe on the other hand gets absolutely SHUT DOWN by guys like Prince, Pierce, etc. Kobe has a claim for arguably the worst Game 7 Finals performance in NBA history along with 1994 Starks with his 6/24 Game 7 brickfest.

Kobe also got absolutely lit up by Pierce in 2008 as well. What's alarming is a 45% shooting Finals for LeBron is just ordinary by his standards yet it is a higher percentage than Kobe has shot in SIX out of SEVEN Finals appearances. This guy is supposedly top 10 all time!!:roll:




THEY LEFT HIM WIDE OPEN TO SHOOT THE BALL:roll: :roll:


You think Kobe or Jordan ever got left wide open???:facepalm

[poido123]

It's more than his overall performance looked at as a whole, it's how the dude was invisible and/or passive for LONG stretches of several games. Posting this actually got me suspended from RealGM for a day, because these Lebron nut-huggers can't deal with the truth:

Lebron was 1-9 FG for 9 points in 31 minutes of game time from the 4:45 mark of the first quarter through the beginning of the 4th quarter in game 6. But yeah, you guys are right - he hasn't disappeared or been rendered ineffective for large stretches of the series! How could I not see the light!? :oldlol:

So he's 12-27 from midrange for the series? Wow, great (note: this was prior to game 7). So he's attempted just 4-5 midrange shots per game despite the 6-9 foot cushion they've been giving him all series, daring him to take those shots. Like I said: dude has been invisible for large stretches of the series, is mentally shook, and has no confidence whatsoever in his shot. The way they've been playing him, he should have been attempting like 10+ 15-20 footers per game and making a great % of them due to the space they're giving him. Him hardly attempting any such shots is precisely what I'm talking about. This is to say nothing of the fact that the majority of these shots (and makes) come in clusters, usually only when the Heat are up and playing well.

Here are some other long stretches where he has disappeared. And it's not like this is when his team is up comfortably (which, oddly enough, is when he plays his best - he's a front-runner in that respect) - this is when they are down or the game is very much in question, and he just disappears or does nothing for long stretches of time.

From game 5:

4:45 mark of the 1st quarter through the 5:45 mark of the second quarter (11 minutes of game time): the score is tied 17-17 at the start of this stretch, and SA then goes on a 12-0 run and eventually a 19-5 run to end that stretch up 47-34. During these 11 minutes, Lebron goes 0-3 FG for 0 points. Invisible.

10:42 mark of the 3rd quarter through 3:27 mark of the 4th quarter (19 minutes of game time): Lebron goes 0-7 FG for 1 point. San Antonio goes from a 1 point lead at the start of this stretch to a 15 point lead at the end of it, and Lebron is (again) invisible.

In case you're counting, that makes 30 minutes of game time in game 5 where Lebron went a combined 0-10 from the field for 1 point. During these 30 minutes, SA went from being tied or only up 1 point to having monstrous leads each time (that's the worst part - it'd be a bit different if the Heat were up or playing well). And the Heat's leader, Lebron James, did nothing to counter it. Invisible. Shook.


Game 3:

3:24 mark of the 1st quarter through the 2:04 mark of the second quarter (13+ minutes of game time): 0-4 FG for 0 points. The Heat went from being down 3 points to being down 8 points during this time.

He then makes a layup (shock!) at the 2:04 mark of the 2nd quarter, which is followed by this stretch of nothingness:

2:04 mark of the 2nd quarter through the 1:36 mark of the 3rd quarter (12.5 minutes of game time): 0-5 FG for 0 points. During this stretch, the Heat went from being down 3 to being down 19 points, and Lebron - fearless leader - did nothing at all.

In total, from the 3:24 mark of the 1st quarter through the 1:36 mark of the 3rd quarter (26 minutes of game time), Lebron was 1-10 from the field for 2 points. During this time, San Antonio was +21. They opened up a huge lead and Lebron did bubkes.


Please, PLEASE don't make me do this type of analysis for other games, because it won't be pretty. GOAT my ass. You people are comically blind to his shortcomings and his shrinking from the moment. As I said, he has been INVISIBLE for large stretches of this series - 70-80% if I had to estimate. His stretches of good play have come in short spurts for the most part. This salvages his overall numbers, making it look somewhat respectable, but to anyone who has actually been watching the series - and is not a huge Lebron fan like several folks in this thread - he has looked invisible and timid for most of the series.

People are absolutely out of their mind comparing this dude to Jordan. He was a Ray Allen shot away from being a stooge and a laughing stock, and it was in large part due to his own poor play and invisibility.



The stark truth of it all is too hard for some people to bare :confusedshrug:

While the Heat clowns make infinite threads claiming the greatness of Lebron, they won't sit down and look at reality :oldlol:

Bu-Bu-Bu Lebron is on Jordan level, I'm from the Bieber generation and I know everything :roll:

[xoracle55]

:facepalm When will we ever mature as a fan?

THEIR STAR PLAYER/S LEAD, BUT TEAMS STILL WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS.

AND THE LEADERS WILL ALWAYS GET THE CREDIT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

ALL OF THEM CONTRIBUTED IN THE WIN. IT'S A DAMN OLD CLICHE BUT NONE OF THAT IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT THEM.

(DON'T TAKE THAT LITERALLY, HEAT WOULD WIN WITHOUT JARVIS VARNADO, LAKERS WOULD WIN WITHOUT ADAM MORRISON, BULLS WOULD WIN WITHOUT RUSTY LARUE OR KEITH BOOTH, AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS)

LEBRON PLAYED WELL AND WAS FINALLY CLUTCH. DEAL WITH IT. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.



This!


So typical of bitter bulls fan Poido and Kobetards trivializing
Lebrons great finals performance. Why bother?

[Andrei89]

Kobe stans so mad that Lebron surpassed their idol...

I dont care about Jordan comparisions.

All I know is that

Lebron > Kobe

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Stay mad and salty:roll: :roll:

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/littlefinger-deal-with-it.gif

[RRR3]

Let's look at the competition that LeBron faced while playing with a superstar SG and all-star PF...

First round, the Brandon Jennings led mighty Bucks!!! Fear the deer. :roll:

Second round, the mighty NATE ROBINSON :eek: led Bulls!!! And they were only missing their two best players! :roll:

ECF, the fearsome Paul George led Pacers! A fierce team led by an equally fierce fringe all-star SF coming fresh off his third season!!! How did the Heat make it out alive? :roll:

And then the finals, straight out of the museum, the 37 year old Tim Duncan led Spurs!!! The Heat should have been no match for these prehistoric beasts, but somehow LeBron guided his peasants to a 7 game series win! All hail Lord LeBron!!! :roll:






























:roll:

But you said the spurs would win easily, so they must be pretty good.

[RRR3]

THEY LEFT HIM WIDE OPEN TO SHOOT THE BALL:roll: :roll:


You think Kobe or Jordan ever got left wide open???:facepalm

Kobe can't be left wide open because he refuses to take wide open shots - he just pump fakes until someone comes over to guard him and then fades away.

[RRR3]

The stark truth of it all is too hard for some people to bare :confusedshrug:

While the Heat clowns make infinite threads claiming the greatness of Lebron, they won't sit down and look at reality :oldlol:

Bu-Bu-Bu Lebron is on Jordan level, I'm from the Bieber generation and I know everything :roll:

Only idiot trolls are saying that :confusedshrug:

Don't generalize us sane Lebron fans.

[poido123]

Only idiot trolls are saying that :confusedshrug:

Don't generalize us sane Lebron fans.


You're alright.

Please let my generalisation of Heat clowns fly over the top of your head.

The breed I'm refering to are Hoopsnumero, Taz, Plowking, Numbersix, Heatcurse etc.

They pump out so much BS and propaganda between them I can't keep up.

:confusedshrug:

[plowking]

It's more than his overall performance looked at as a whole, it's how the dude was invisible and/or passive for LONG stretches of several games. Posting this actually got me suspended from RealGM for a day, because these Lebron nut-huggers can't deal with the truth:

Lebron was 1-9 FG for 9 points in 31 minutes of game time from the 4:45 mark of the first quarter through the beginning of the 4th quarter in game 6. But yeah, you guys are right - he hasn't disappeared or been rendered ineffective for large stretches of the series! How could I not see the light!? :oldlol:

So he's 12-27 from midrange for the series? Wow, great (note: this was prior to game 7). So he's attempted just 4-5 midrange shots per game despite the 6-9 foot cushion they've been giving him all series, daring him to take those shots. Like I said: dude has been invisible for large stretches of the series, is mentally shook, and has no confidence whatsoever in his shot. The way they've been playing him, he should have been attempting like 10+ 15-20 footers per game and making a great % of them due to the space they're giving him. Him hardly attempting any such shots is precisely what I'm talking about. This is to say nothing of the fact that the majority of these shots (and makes) come in clusters, usually only when the Heat are up and playing well.

Here are some other long stretches where he has disappeared. And it's not like this is when his team is up comfortably (which, oddly enough, is when he plays his best - he's a front-runner in that respect) - this is when they are down or the game is very much in question, and he just disappears or does nothing for long stretches of time.

From game 5:

4:45 mark of the 1st quarter through the 5:45 mark of the second quarter (11 minutes of game time): the score is tied 17-17 at the start of this stretch, and SA then goes on a 12-0 run and eventually a 19-5 run to end that stretch up 47-34. During these 11 minutes, Lebron goes 0-3 FG for 0 points. Invisible.

10:42 mark of the 3rd quarter through 3:27 mark of the 4th quarter (19 minutes of game time): Lebron goes 0-7 FG for 1 point. San Antonio goes from a 1 point lead at the start of this stretch to a 15 point lead at the end of it, and Lebron is (again) invisible.

In case you're counting, that makes 30 minutes of game time in game 5 where Lebron went a combined 0-10 from the field for 1 point. During these 30 minutes, SA went from being tied or only up 1 point to having monstrous leads each time (that's the worst part - it'd be a bit different if the Heat were up or playing well). And the Heat's leader, Lebron James, did nothing to counter it. Invisible. Shook.


Game 3:

3:24 mark of the 1st quarter through the 2:04 mark of the second quarter (13+ minutes of game time): 0-4 FG for 0 points. The Heat went from being down 3 points to being down 8 points during this time.

He then makes a layup (shock!) at the 2:04 mark of the 2nd quarter, which is followed by this stretch of nothingness:

2:04 mark of the 2nd quarter through the 1:36 mark of the 3rd quarter (12.5 minutes of game time): 0-5 FG for 0 points. During this stretch, the Heat went from being down 3 to being down 19 points, and Lebron - fearless leader - did nothing at all.

In total, from the 3:24 mark of the 1st quarter through the 1:36 mark of the 3rd quarter (26 minutes of game time), Lebron was 1-10 from the field for 2 points. During this time, San Antonio was +21. They opened up a huge lead and Lebron did bubkes.


Please, PLEASE don't make me do this type of analysis for other games, because it won't be pretty. GOAT my ass. You people are comically blind to his shortcomings and his shrinking from the moment. As I said, he has been INVISIBLE for large stretches of this series - 70-80% if I had to estimate. His stretches of good play have come in short spurts for the most part. This salvages his overall numbers, making it look somewhat respectable, but to anyone who has actually been watching the series - and is not a huge Lebron fan like several folks in this thread - he has looked invisible and timid for most of the series.

People are absolutely out of their mind comparing this dude to Jordan. He was a Ray Allen shot away from being a stooge and a laughing stock, and it was in large part due to his own poor play and invisibility.

All this talk, and he still put up a better performance than Jordan did in the 96 finals. :oldlol:

[OldSchoolBBall]

All this talk, and he still put up a better performance than Jordan did in the 96 finals. :oldlol:

No, he really didn't. :oldlol: And he wasn't facing nearly the same defensive pressure. lol @ "King James" aka "the GOAT" being given a 6-10 foot cushion all series and dared to shoot and looking like a scared kid the whole time. :oldlol:

[poido123]

All this talk, and he still put up a better performance than Jordan did in the 96 finals. :oldlol:

When you read that, you thought; "Fcuk this guy, he is right. But just to make sure he doesnt notice my butthurt, I'll pick at one insignificant thing and throw it at him"

Sound about right Plowking?

[Anaximandro1]

People are absolutely out of their mind comparing this dude to Jordan.
(89-93) Jordan would have killed my Spurs in four games

He was a Ray Allen shot away from being a stooge and a laughing stock, and it was in large part due to his own poor play and invisibility.
The Heat didn't win.

SAS gifted the title to MIA.


And then the finals,straight out of the museum, the 37 year old Tim Duncan led Spurs!!! The Heat should have been no match for these prehistoric beasts, but somehow LeBron guided his peasants to a 7 game series win! All hail Lord LeBron!!!
Wow :roll:

[2010splash]

THEY LEFT HIM WIDE OPEN TO SHOOT THE BALL:roll: :roll:


You think Kobe or Jordan ever got left wide open???:facepalm
Having watched Jordan, I can say LeBron is not at his level yet offensively and may never become the greatest player ever. However, anyone who thinks LeBron won't become #2 or #3 all time with ease is basically a Kobe stan or a lunatic. LeBron's a far better player than guys like Bird or Magic ever were, and they are close to top 5.

Furthermore, I had to laugh at the "Kobe and Jordan" part of your post, mentioning Kobe and Jordan together as if they are similar.:roll:

No matter what the defense, Kobe is a CAREER 41 FG% Finals shooter with FOUR of the all-time worst Finals performances from any big name player (2000, 2004, 2008, 2010).

[TheReal Kendall]

Come on you guys!

Lebron's overall series performance wasn't greater than MJ's but he stepped up win it counts.

I don't like him but at the end of the day Bron showed up as did Wade when they needed him. Hell the role players stepped up too.

It's a team game not 1 vs 5. We know how the media spins it to make it seem like a one man show but you gotta be an idiot to actually believe that.

At the end of the day Bron and the Heat stepped up as a team to win the Finals.

You can't take that away from him or the Heat.

Lebron especially showed he's got some clutch in him and shut the haters up.

Congratulations Heat and Heat fans! :banana:

[Frozen1]

His stans only look at the stats. Lebron is the stat man. They do

[plowking]

No, he really didn't. :oldlol: And he wasn't facing nearly the same defensive pressure. lol @ "King James" aka "the GOAT" being given a 6-10 foot cushion all series and dared to shoot and looking like a scared kid the whole time. :oldlol:

Did you enjoy watching Jordan get flustered when little 6'3 Gary Payton started locking his ass up in the last few games? :oldlol:

He really didn't? :oldlol:
Typical Jordan fan thinks the game revolves around scoring and only scoring. :oldlol:

[Blue&Orange]

All this talk, and he still put up a better performance than Jordan did in the 96 finals. :oldlol:
Stat padding garbage time? Sure it was.

[Trollsmasher]

pedo123,Blue&Orange and Kobetards having their usual circle jerk off fest with everyone else laughing at them:roll: :roll:

[plowking]

Stat padding garbage time? Sure it was.

Meanwhile Jordan is busy closing out the Sonics with 22 points on 5-19 shooting, along with 5 turnovers. GOAT clutch right there. :oldlol:

[poido123]

Did you enjoy watching Jordan get flustered when little 6'3 Gary Payton started locking his ass up in the last few games? :oldlol:

He really didn't? :oldlol:
Typical Jordan fan thinks the game revolves around scoring and only scoring. :oldlol:



You pick one of the few defenders that could "guard" Jordan well, and yet you see this as Jordan being locked up or contained. :facepalm:


Yo Lebron, I'm leave yo p*ssy ass open all series to hit the jumpshot, I think your jumpshot is whack! :oldlol:

Jordan never had that kind of special treatment :roll:

[poido123]

Meanwhile Jordan is busy closing out the Sonics with 22 points on 5-19 shooting, along with 5 turnovers. GOAT clutch right there. :oldlol:

2011 with a gust of wind defending Lebron and stopping him from performing. Nothing beats that one :oldlol:

Gary Payton is a hall of fame elite perimeter defender no less.

[plowking]

2011 with a gust of wind defending Lebron and stopping him from performing. Nothing beats that one :oldlol:

Funny thing about that is, Lebron was the best player on the court for a total of one game that series. It was game 1.

Same thing is the case for Jordan in 96. :oldlol:
He was only the best player in one game. I think it was game 2 or 3 where he scored over 30 for the first time. I think it was in a 30 point blowout as well. :oldlol:

[plowking]

You pick one of the few defenders that could "guard" Jordan well, and yet you see this as Jordan being locked up or contained. :facepalm:


Yo Lebron, I'm leave yo p*ssy ass open all series to hit the jumpshot, I think your jumpshot is whack! :oldlol:

Jordan never had that kind of special treatment :roll:


:oldlol:

Jordan defended by a smaller defender.

Lebron on the other hand is matched up with Leonard. Biggest hands in the league, 7'4 wingspan, and an athletic beast.
They crowded the paint with bigs, flooding the strong side with 2 men every time Lebron touched the ball. That's called dictating an entire defense to be focused on you.
Lebron killed them with his passing and scoring in the end.

[Blue&Orange]

Did you enjoy watching Jordan get flustered when little 6'3 Gary Payton started locking his ass up in the last few games? :oldlol:

As much as seeing the "chosen one" being shutdown by Boris Diaw? :oldlol:


Gary Payton one of the all time best man on man defender.
Boris Diaw, not so much.

[plowking]

As much as seeing the "chosen one" being shutdown by Boris Diaw? :oldlol:


Gary Payton one of the all time best man on man defender.
Boris Diaw, not so much.

Sure. Lebron going through a bad patch in an 8 minute period when a certain player happens to be on him is the same as being made to look like a child with Gary Payton on you for the last 2 and a half games.

[Blue&Orange]

Meanwhile Jordan is busy closing out the Sonics with 22 points on 5-19 shooting, along with 5 turnovers. GOAT clutch right there. :oldlol:
That was Lebron performance for 5 games this finals outside of garbage time. :lol

Unbearable how dumb lebrontards are.

[Indian guy]

Please, PLEASE don't make me do this type of analysis for other games, because it won't be pretty.

The analysis where you conveniently pick stretches from games where a star player didn't score much? That's not "analysis", it's called cherry-picking. In reality, every star plays his best offensive ball(scoring) through short stretches, particularly in series' where he didn't play that well. I can pick countless such down times from some of MJ's own series' against great defenses in the playoffs. For example, he was completely MIA in qtrs 2 & 3 of Game 2 of the '92 ECS against NYK. Same goes for the 2nd half of games 4 & 6. And these all happened to be segments of the game where NY either turned a deficit into a lead, or turned a close game into a comfortable victory. Now, do we say MJ was invisible half the time in half the games of the series? Of course not! Because all players do their scoring work during short bursts/small stretches of games, and this isn't even getting into the other stuff they're doing well when they aren't scoring - rebounding/passing(playmaking)/defending - 3 things that LeBron was doing at an ELITE level all series. Particularly during qtrs 1-3 of Game 6 of the Finals.

And btw, that was just 1 series from MJ's championship runs. It gets uglier if I pick the '93 ECF, '96 Finals or the '97 ECF. Some very, very poor scoring stretches for him in all of those series'. But something tells me you wouldn't say MJ was "invisible" for more than half of those series'. You would simply highlight the other things he was doing well, something you seem incapable of doing when it comes to LeBron.


GOAT my ass. You people are comically blind to his shortcomings and his shrinking from the moment.

Shrinking from the moment? What?? All of LeBron's best basketball in this series came when the moment was at its biggest. Game 4, down 2-1, series essentially over if they lose that night, but LeBron scores 33/11/4 on 60% shooting and leads team to victory on the road.

4th qtr of Game 6, down 10 and season on the line, scores 16 4th qtr points, assists basically all the other baskets too, shuts down Tony Parker, puts together a 30 point triple double(first in finals since '93 Barkley) and leads team to victory.

Game 7, probably the biggest game ever for an NBA star, and LeBron plays one of the greatest game 7's ever to lead his team to victory, all in a back-n-forth game.

So, what shrinking from the moment? LeBron's best in the Finals came when it mattered most. That has really been his MO the last 2 seasons, the bigger the game, the better he plays. And looking at his history in elimination games, this is a guy who is clearly at his best when the stakes are highest.


As I said, he has been INVISIBLE for large stretches of this series - 70-80% if I had to estimate.

That percentage is insane. You don't become the only player to average 25/11/7 in Finals history by not doing anything for 3 qtrs of every game. The fact that you actually believe that percentage is a testament to how completely blinded you have become by insecurity.


People are absolutely out of their mind comparing this dude to Jordan.

Again, 1 sub-par series isn't going to determine LeBron's fate. Especially when he WON that series by playing terrific basketball when it mattered most. At the end of the day, the bottom line is still that, when compared head-2-head through the first 10 seasons of their careers, LeBron compares remarkably well at ALL facets of the game to MJ. Be it statistically, accolades(MVPs) or championships. And you know this, and that is why you've suddenly began this endless crusade to discredit him. You're very scared.

[DMAVS41]

Let's look at the competition that LeBron faced while playing with a superstar SG and all-star PF...

First round, the Brandon Jennings led mighty Bucks!!! Fear the deer. :roll:

Second round, the mighty NATE ROBINSON :eek: led Bulls!!! And they were only missing their two best players! :roll:

ECF, the fearsome Paul George led Pacers! A fierce team led by an equally fierce fringe all-star SF coming fresh off his third season!!! How did the Heat make it out alive? :roll:

And then the finals, straight out of the museum, the 37 year old Tim Duncan led Spurs!!! The Heat should have been no match for these prehistoric beasts, but somehow LeBron guided his peasants to a 7 game series win! All hail Lord LeBron!!! :roll:































:roll:

Yea....Heat got a break with poor competition this year. But I hope you say the same thing about the Lakers in 09. Nuggets and Magic in conference finals and finals was about the same as this year...actually...probably a little worse.

[plowking]

That was Lebron performance for 5 games this finals outside of garbage time. :lol

Unbearable how dumb lebrontards are.

As was the case with Jordan... hence his stats. :oldlol:

[poido123]

:oldlol:

Jordan defended by a smaller defender.

Lebron on the other hand is matched up with Leonard. Biggest hands in the league, 7'4 wingspan, and an athletic beast.
They crowded the paint with bigs, flooding the strong side with 2 men every time Lebron touched the ball. That's called dictating an entire defense to be focused on you.
Lebron killed them with his passing and scoring in the end.

Whatever you say man, I'm going to bed.

You can thank Allen's historic three to save Lebron from the ridicule he would of endured for lacking in so many areas of the game :oldlol:

This is your roundabout way of explaining Lebron's excuses for not being aggressive and performing, when Jordan was busy getting double and triple teamed by elite defenses with hall of famers on a regular basis in playoffs :oldlol:

But of course, Payton being an elite perimeter defender and hall of famer giving Jordan problems is anything like what Lebron experienced, GTFO Plowking :pimp:

[Blue&Orange]

Sure. Lebron going through a bad patch in an 8 minute period when a certain player happens to be on him is the same as being made to look like a child with Gary Payton on you for the last 2 and a half games.
bad patch? a player happens to be on him? This shit is hilarious :lol


Lebron just won his second ring and he is keeps falling on everyone goat list outside of lebrontards. That says it all.

Oh and Lebron is 28 years old, Jordan was 33. :lol

Oh and 2011 happened, i don't even understand why this series is being compared to 96 jordans series. Care to explain? :lol


Lebrontards :lol

[Blue&Orange]

As was the case with Jordan... hence his stats. :oldlol:
:lol

Good stuff.

[dh144498]

lol... lebron stans going full retard in this thread.

[tpols]

Yea....Heat got a break with poor competition this year. But I hope you say the same thing about the Lakers in 09. Nuggets and Magic in conference finals and finals was about the same as this year...actually...probably a little worse.
Lakers opponents combined regular season record

214-114


Miamis opponents combined regular season record

190-137

And if you go round by round Lakers competition had more wins in every single matchup. Lakers first round matchup had one.. Yes one less win than Miamis ECF opponent. Lakers were facing better opponents in the second and arguably first round than Miami was facing in their third.

Next

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Not a big Lebron guy, but IG just ethered the shit out of Oldschoolbball. Damn.

[chazzy]

No matter what the defense, Kobe is a CAREER 41 FG% Finals shooter with FOUR of the all-time worst Finals performances from any big name player (2000, 2004, 2008, 2010).
I like how Lebron's finals were top 5 all time, when statistically it wasn't much better than Kobe's '10 finals which was an all time bad performance for you. Game 7 differences matter a lot, but still :oldlol:

[PickernRoller]

Won't make the Top 10 all-time. Won't surpass Kobe which angers his fans even more....

Top 15 - cemented there forever. Winning=/= Forget.

IG really thought this one out LOL. Just a desperate rebuttal thou...

Nikka's mad LBJ is overrated as f'ck. Don't blame them for rooting for him - alternative Kobe? They'll probably kill themselves first.

[Frozen1]

Shrinking from the moment? What?? All of LeBron's best basketball in this series came when the moment was at its biggest. Game 4, down 2-1, series essentially over if they lose that night, but LeBron scores 33/11/4 on 60% shooting and leads team to victory on the road.



LOL this the epitome of blind lebron stans.

The true stat should be 24/11/4 on a less Fg% shooting, because you can

[Indian guy]

And by the way, your guy sat in the 4th of that game with a 4 point lead. He came back and the lead was 15.

This is incorrect. Miami had a 7 point lead when LeBron sat in the 4th. 11 point lead when he returned.

[quote]I

[tpols]

This is incorrect. Miami had a 7 point lead when LeBron sat in the 4th. 11 point lead when he returned.



OK, he led his team to victory along with Wade. Happy? :rolleyes:. Up until he sat down with Miami up 7 with 9:45 left in the 4th, LeBron was Miami's best player that night.
And Wade put the game on ice and was Miamis best player up to the point before he put the game truly out of reach..

And then Lebron came in and scored 7 points in garbage time to surpass wades otherwise superior performance. :oldlol:

[xoracle55]

Not a big Lebron guy, but IG just ethered the shit out of Oldschoolbball. Damn.

:rockon:

Looks to me Oldschoolbballl needs alot of schooling..

Give it up you Lebron hater..

[Trollsmasher]

IG totally ethering those idiots:rockon: :rockon: :applause:

[Papaya Petee]

Wait, so 25\11\7 on 45% shooting, and making Tony Parker look clueless is a BAD series?

Do you people even watch basketball or do you just write shit straight out of your ass? He hit a terrible shooting slump during those finals, but the fact that he recovered in a FANTASTIC way, and had spectacular game 6 and 7 should take all that negativity away. All that matters is the final outcome, and it that outcome was LeBron winning his 2nd Finals MVP.

Ray Allen saving LeBrons ass? :roll: What the f*** was Ray Allen brought into Miami for, if NOT for his clutchness and fantastic 3 point shooting? What did Ray Allen do in the finals except for that 1 shot that was so worthy? You haters are blindfolded. If not for LeBron, this series would have never been close to begin with. Only other players who showed up for the Heat that series was Wade, Chalmers for a few games, and Battier in game 7.

[DFB]

We gonna act like the Lakers didnt commit the biggest choke in sport history?

Kobe,Nash,Howard ITS OVERRR. Kobe getting his sixth :lol

[pegasus]

It was not a bad series for him, given the way he was able to finish, but it was close to being mediocre than great.

The fact that it took him until game 4 to get over his anxiety over his shooting but only to see it come back and haunt him again in game 5 and 6, is enough to say that he's had a stacked team which came through for him when he needed and extended the series, and he finally got hot at the right time in game 7.

He severely hurt his team in majority of the first six games by either not shooting despite all that space he was given, or just missing most of them that he ended up taking.

His entire team had to adjust to cover for his shortcoming by going small, putting more shooters on the floor, keeping Wade off the floor more than usual, etc. Normally it should be the other way around; you know, the best player on the team doing what needs to be done to help his teammates, making the games easier for them, etc.

And on top of all that, he still needed a couple of horrible decisions by one of the best coaches of all time and a divine miracle.

[Stern]

I love how all these Jordan stans like old school and pedo123 are hating on LeBron now that he is winning. It wasn't long ago that pedo123 used to post stuff hating on Kobe. :oldlol

[DirkNowitzki41]

We gonna act like the Lakers didnt commit the biggest choke in sport history?

Kobe,Nash,Howard ITS OVERRR. Kobe getting his sixth :lol

:oldlol: This.

For as much shit Kobe fans talk about LeBron having 'stacked' teams, atleast Bron wins a championship with them instead of missing the playoffs like Kobe. :oldlol:

[Doranku]

:oldlol: This.

For as much shit Kobe fans talk about LeBron having 'stacked' teams, atleast Bron wins a championship with them instead of missing the playoffs like Kobe. :oldlol:

7th seed = Missing the playoffs

I think you might be confusing Kobe with your boy Dirk. :roll:

[SilkkTheShocker]

IG absolutely lit OldSchool up like a damn Christmas tree. OMG :oldlol:

[Doranku]

This argument between IG and Loki is great.

On one end, we have a loser who used to pretend to be a Bulls fan to cover up his love for LeBron James.

On the other end, we have arguably the greatest Jordan stan of all time.

:oldlol:

[poido123]

I love how all these Jordan stans like old school and pedo123 are hating on LeBron now that he is winning. It wasn't long ago that pedo123 used to post stuff hating on Kobe. :oldlol


Jordan stan :rolleyes:

So is everyone who criticises the top players in one way or another a hater? And a stan of whoever they are being compared to?

This is getting ridiculous. Apart from being a selfish player earlier in his career and being an asshole in real life and the gambling, there really isn't much to fault on Jordan basketball wise. So if there is any argument that comes up, anyone supporting Jordan has all the ammo. But the cop out is to call us Jordan stans for pointing out the facts about him compared to X player.

Wait til the Bieber generation of Lebron stans get older, and then the new crop of fans start belittling Lebron and his achievements comparing him to X player who is clearly inferior to him and then you will see how annoying it is.

[Robalvarez2010]

Did MJ go missing for the first 5 and 3/4 games of a finals series??

I did not realize that getting 18 points, 18 rebounds, and 11 assists in game 1 was a bad game.

And also scoring 18 points in the 4th quarter to give his teams a chance on winning the game in game 6 meant that he did not show up!

[DaSeba5]

IG absolutely lit OldSchool up like a damn Christmas tree. OMG :oldlol:

I know right :roll:

[russwest0]

SHooting 44% while being left wide open every single game...

Meanwhile MJ averaged 41 pts on 50+%...

LBJ GOAT...

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Doranku]

bumping this bc I want to see Loki's reply to IG