Higher all-time: Lebron vs. Kobe

[Electric Slide]

who you got?

[Done_And_Done]

Your mother and your mother's mother's mother.

Now f*ck off...


Done & Done

[gengiskhan]

who you got?

9. Lebron
10.Oscar
11.Moses
12.Charles
13.Duncan
14.Kobe
15.Dr. J

[Kurosawa0]

It's tough because Kobe has the rings, but LeBron has won the MVPs. Honestly though, this LeBron is better than any version of Kobe. The awards are fairly even, so I gotta go with LeBron.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktBlaOhw3cQ

will to win.

[uoykcuf]

It's tough because Kobe has the rings, but LeBron has won the MVPs. Honestly though, this LeBron is better than any version of Kobe. The awards are fairly even, so I gotta go with LeBron.

this

[WayOfWade]

While I like LeBron, I can't give him the nod over Kobe... yet.

[livinglegend]

easily Lebron

[NLZ]

Kobe Bryant.

[sbw19]

Player? LeBron. Career? Kobe.

[Electric Slide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktBlaOhw3cQ

will to win.
sorry this is how it really went down


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jq3LuMq6D0

[PickernRoller]

Trick question?

Lebron already Top 5.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecS0D-Vxh8Y

if you want to win and win and win, its Kobe.

[chosen_wun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecS0D-Vxh8Y

if you want to win and win and win, its Kobe.
Robert Horry too.:cheers:

Very good role players.

[gengiskhan]

4 x season MVPs (2 each with different franchises)

2 x MVP sweeps (only Russell, Jordan, LBJ did it)

2 x SOLID Fmvps.

1 x Rookie of the yr


vs


1 x consolation MVP

1 x SOLID Fmvp



Not much comparison. Its a CLEAN SWEEP for LBJ.

[SilkkTheShocker]

If we are talking career accolades, I can understand why some have Kobe higher. Even though LeBron has the same number of titles as the man, not to mention several more MVPs. But in terms of who the better player was? Its LeBron by a good amount.

[Quizno]

kobe, but this version of lebron is as good or better than any version of kobe. but you're kidding yourself if you think that if 05-06 and 06-07 kobe had a top 2 small forward and a top 5 big and was also surrounded by good role players he wouldn't have won titles

but kobe had smush parker, luke walton and kwame brown in his starting 5 during his peak

[SilkkTheShocker]

kobe, but this version of lebron is as good or better than any version of kobe. but you're kidding yourself if you think that if 05-06 and 06-07 kobe had a top 2 small forward and a top 5 big and was also surrounded by good role players he wouldn't have won titles

but kobe had smush parker, luke walton and kwame brown in his starting 5 during his peak

I don't deny that at all. But Wade/Bosh's impact his postseason and been overrated by some. Im a LeBron fan, obviously. But aside from PJR, EnoughSaid, DaSeba, and that jrong weirdo, I have stuck up for Wade a lot. The guy deserves props for his game 4 and game 7 in the Finals. But LeBron did a ton of heavy lifting this postseason. Even more than last season imo. And my dead grandmother and Bosh combined to drop the same amount of Game 7 points. Again, im not saying they are overrated. Wade is obviously hurt. But I expect more than zero points out of Bosh.

[Electric Slide]

kobe, but this version of lebron is as good or better than any version of kobe. but you're kidding yourself if you think that if 05-06 and 06-07 kobe had a top 2 small forward and a top 5 big and was also surrounded by good role players he wouldn't have won titles

but kobe had smush parker, luke walton and kwame brown in his starting 5 during his peak
lol at as good, he's clearly better.

[AintNoSunshine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecS0D-Vxh8Y

if you want to offensive rebounds and buildng a brick house and diamond ring, its Kobe.


fixed it for ya

[TheBigVeto]

Lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe

[raiderfan19]

how is this even arguable as a player? Scorer? Lebron is a ton more efficient, he could have scored more than Kobe if he was a chucker too, passing? Not even close, rebounding? Not even close, defending? Kobe in his Kobe/shaq days was a better on ball defender than current Lebron but lebrons a better help defender and Kobe was never that guy again after he had to carry the huge burden offensively.

[gengiskhan]

Lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe

9. Lebron
10.Oscar
11.Moses
12.Charles
13.Duncan
14.Kobe
15.Dr. J.

[poido123]

Kobe has two more titles > 4 mvps and 2 titles.

Kobe has better footwork, postgame and better fundamentals.

Are we watching the same game here?

[cotdt]

Lebron needs to win 5 rings before I even consider this.

And let's not forget LEGACY. Kobe will always be loved by LA fans. Lebron just jumps from team to team. He will never be loved by Miami fans the same way Kobe is loved by Laker fans.

[quick96]

KOBE "the G.O.A.T." Bryant = 5 NBA Championships and counting.
LeHype "David Sterns Bitch" James = 1 Championship and another championship in a lock out shortened season... FU*KING PATHETIC!

[Droid101]

Kobe.

We'll see what LeBron does the next few years.

[chazzy]

If Lebron retires right now, pretty close. If he never wins another title but plays out a full career, putting up good numbers etc. then he'll finish ahead.

[K]

Lebron James for sure. He's the better player. All that was missing was one single ring, if even that. I don't like to rank players that way.

[poido123]

Kobe.

We'll see what LeBron does the next few years.


:lol:

This. The way the Heat fans are talking, they are expecting the Heat to win the next 2 championships at least. Alot can change in one offseason, one trade deadline, one injury free league even.

[poido123]

[QUOTE=K

[TonyMontana]

If you have LeBron James on your team your guaranteed to have deep playoff runs and be a contender no matter who else is on the team. Guy was winning over Vegas with Mo Williams as his best teammate. :oldlol:

Kobe can't make your team relevant unless you give him hall of fame 7 footers in their prime combined with the greatest coach in NBA History. Without both of those things your just a typical irrelevant first round team.

All Kobe gives you is scoring(at an inefficient clip). LeBron scores just as much on much better efficiency, also can be an elite rebounder, an elite facilitator, and can shut down anyone on the court minus 7 footers. Best perimeter help defender of all-time too.

This question is an insult to LeBron.

[chazzy]

Antartica?

Man, you need to get your head out of the ice. :oldlol:
That's probably the first Antartic racist joke I've heard

[K]

Antartica?

Man, you need to get your head out of the ice. :oldlol:

I like to have a cool head.

[Electric Slide]

Kobe has two more titles > 4 mvps and 2 titles.

Kobe has better footwork, postgame and better fundamentals.

Are we watching the same game here?
and yet, kobe is still less productive than lebron is.

[livinglegend]

Antartica?

Man, you need to get your head out of the ice. :oldlol:

And you should probably stop ****ing underage Australian Kangaroos.
pedo

[K]

Antartica?


That's probably the first Antartic racist joke I've heard


Antartica?


That's probably the first Antartic racist joke I've heard

Sub-Canadian North Americans. :lol

[poido123]

and yet, kobe is still less productive than lebron is.

Kobe is 34. What, do you expect his production to be the same as Prime Lebron?

[poido123]

And you should probably stop ****ing underage Australian Kangaroos.
pedo


Oooh, you got me. :lol:

Stop stalking my posts, it's like your waiting for me to trip up something I say, damn Lurkers :lol:

[greymatter]

4 x season MVPs (2 each with different franchises)

2 x MVP sweeps (only Russell, Jordan, LBJ did it)

2 x SOLID Fmvps.

1 x Rookie of the yr


vs


1 x consolation MVP

1 x SOLID Fmvp



Not much comparison. Its a CLEAN SWEEP for LBJ.

No one gives a shit about ROY unless they're a retard. It's almost as worthless as ASG MVP.

[poido123]

[QUOTE=K

[K]

Man, I have to ask...

Do you even have TV's to watch games in that continent?

Unless you're a scientific researcher, you can't be living there dude :lol: But if you are one, it's a funny thought to think that you're sitting over there surrounded by Polar Bears and Snow, commenting on ISH. :lol:

Half the time it's hanging around keeping yourself entertained. Research every now and then. It's basically a prolonged sex party. The females aren't too bad either. And I have some of the fastest internet I have ever seen because we have to transmit so much data. :bowdown:

[INDI]

who you got?

The one that has been selected to 12 defensive teams (9 of them first team and tied for 1st alltime)

[Nash]

With the same amount of FMVP's and the huge difference in MVP's.. the ring argument doesn't mean as much as it did when Lebron was ringsless.

[Fudge]

Kobe for now, LeBron later (most likely).

[SamuraiSWISH]

If you have LeBron James on your team your guaranteed to have deep playoff runs and be a contender no matter who else is on the team. Guy was winning over Vegas with Mo Williams as his best teammate. :oldlol:

Kobe can't make your team relevant unless you give him hall of fame 7 footers in their prime combined with the greatest coach in NBA History. Without both of those things your just a typical irrelevant first round team.

All Kobe gives you is scoring(at an inefficient clip). LeBron scores just as much on much better efficiency, also can be an elite rebounder, an elite facilitator, and can shut down anyone on the court minus 7 footers. Best perimeter help defender of all-time too.

This question is an insult to LeBron.
I'm actually starting to agree. With everything stated here upon retrospect and further evaluation, I can't argue. LeBron is the greatest perimeter player since Jordan. Probably the second best all-time, too.

From a resume perspective, now that he has 2 rings and 2x Finals MVPs ... the weight of Kobe's rings don't negate LeBron having 3 more MVPs, and just as many Finals MVPs as "the man" for his team.

I think LeBron at any point in his career would've been able to win rings with Shaq at his peak.

[cos88]

10. lebron
...
87. ginobili
88. rodman
89. dikembe
90. dumars
91. kobe
92. hardaway
93. mullin
94. nance

[Solefade]

Lebron needs to win 5 rings before I even consider this.

And let's not forget LEGACY. Kobe will always be loved by LA fans. Lebron just jumps from team to team. He will never be loved by Miami fans the same way Kobe is loved by Laker fans.


Does it matter? He's regarded as clearly the best player in the world right now by hall of famers/people that matter. I don't recall Kobe ever being a clear cut best player in the league at any point. And why does he need 5 to even be CONSIDERED by you? He gets one more ring he's definitely passing Kobe up no contest.

[scm5]

Does it matter? He's regarded as clearly the best player in the world right now by hall of famers/people that matter. I don't recall Kobe ever being a clear cut best player in the league at any point. And why does he need 5 to even be CONSIDERED by you? He gets one more ring he's definitely passing Kobe up no contest.

Kobe played with prime Shaq and Duncan in the league. If prime Shaq, Duncan, and Kobe were all in the league right now, Lebron wouldn't be the clear cut best player. There would be no clear cut best player.

[NumberSix]

4 x season MVPs (2 each with different franchises)

2 x MVP sweeps (only Russell, Jordan, LBJ did it)

2 x SOLID Fmvps.

1 x Rookie of the yr


vs


1 x consolation MVP

1 x SOLID Fmvp



Not much comparison. Its a CLEAN SWEEP for LBJ.
Only Jordan and LeBron did it. Russell doesn't have a FMVP.

[Crafty]

Player, Lebron. Legacy, Kobe.

[raiderfan19]

26/5/5/1.5/.5 with 3 topg on 45/34/84 shooting or
28/7/7/1.7/.8 with 3.3 topg on 49/34/75 shooting l. Clear winner.

Or playoff numbers if you wish
26/5/5/1.4/.7 with 2.9 topg on 45/33/82
28/9/7/1.7/.9 with 3.5 topg on 47/32/75 again clear winner

Basically the only thing Kobe does better is hit fts

[havoc33]

If you have LeBron James on your team your guaranteed to have deep playoff runs and be a contender no matter who else is on the team. Guy was winning over Vegas with Mo Williams as his best teammate. :oldlol:

Kobe can't make your team relevant unless you give him hall of fame 7 footers in their prime combined with the greatest coach in NBA History. Without both of those things your just a typical irrelevant first round team.

All Kobe gives you is scoring(at an inefficient clip). LeBron scores just as much on much better efficiency, also can be an elite rebounder, an elite facilitator, and can shut down anyone on the court minus 7 footers. Best perimeter help defender of all-time too.

This question is an insult to LeBron.You my dear sir, are the very definition of a troll. :rolleyes: I love how you conveniently leave out the fact that Lebron has played in the weak Eastern conference his entire career.

As it stands now Kobe has to be ranked higher, but Lebron might very well leapfrog him in a few years. We will see.

[RRR3]

LeBron. And I've been waiting a long time to say that :D

[RRR3]

Kobe has two more titles > 4 mvps and 2 titles.

Kobe has better footwork, postgame and better fundamentals.

Are we watching the same game here?
lawl u used to like LBj more until you started feeling threatened by him in regards to mjs legacy

[RRR3]

Lebron needs to win 5 rings before I even consider this.

And let's not forget LEGACY. Kobe will always be loved by LA fans. Lebron just jumps from team to team. He will never be loved by Miami fans the same way Kobe is loved by Laker fans.
No one will think it's even remotely close if LBj wins 5 rings FOH

[RRR3]

And you should probably stop ****ing underage Australian Kangaroos.
pedo
:biggums:

[Electric Slide]

Player, Lebron. Legacy, Kobe.
don't get why people think luck should be apart of legacy.

[daily]

It's tough because Kobe has the rings, but LeBron has won the MVPs. Honestly though, this LeBron is better than any version of Kobe. The awards are fairly even, so I gotta go with LeBron.

So rings earned on the court in achieving the ultimate goal for any player are equal to an award given out by 100 sports writers, a majority of them that only see the player play a handful of times a year

got it

[NumberSix]

lawl u used to like LBj more until you started feeling threatened by him in regards to mjs legacy
To be fair, I think he's just trolling heat fans. He's been very mad since the bulls series.

[Psycho]

Kobe:
1 MVP
5 Rings
2 FMVP
8 Total Major Accolades

Lebron:
4 MVP
2 Rings
2 FMVP
8 Total Major Accolades

Kobe and Lebron are equals accolade wise.

Lebron has much superior stats/impact as a player, so Lebron takes it.

[daily]

Kobe:
1 MVP
5 Rings
2 FMVP
8 Total Major Accolades

Lebron:
4 MVP
2 Rings
2 FMVP
8 Total Major Accolades

Kobe and Lebron are equals accolade wise.

Lebron has much superior stats/impact as a player, so Lebron takes it.

ac

[Psycho]

[QUOTE=daily]ac

[Mr Exlax]

Kobe:
1 MVP
5 Rings
2 FMVP
8 Total Major Accolades

Lebron:
4 MVP
2 Rings
2 FMVP
8 Total Major Accolades

Kobe and Lebron are equals accolade wise.

Lebron has much superior stats/impact as a player, so Lebron takes it.

WTF? Are you actually not trolling for once?

[dh144498]

kobe's career is pretty much over.
Lebron's is only 28. He's on pace to be top 5.

[PickernRoller]

kobe's career is pretty much over.
Lebron's is only 28. He's on pace to be top 5.

First time we agree on something. Chucker Kobe ain't even Top 10. Just the truth.

[dh144498]

First time we agree on something. Chucker Kobe ain't even Top 10. Just the truth.

stop with the "pretending to be a lebron fan" persona.
:coleman:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Are there actually Kobe fans that believe Kobe will go down as a better player than LeBron when all is said and done? Please explain.

[Electric Slide]

pump

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron by far.

[tmacattack33]

:oldlol:

[fragokota]

Your mother and your mother's mother's mother.

Now f*ck off...


Done & Done lol

but i can understand you,it's ridiculous with all these childish kobe vs lebron threads

[Jacks3]

5>>>> 1.5*

:oldlol:

[NumberSix]

5>>>> 1.5*

:oldlol:
LeBron 2 full rings. Kobe has 1.

[Jacks3]

Winning in the weakest conference in history with the best supporting cast in history (relative to league average) doesn't count.

So it's more like 5>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.

:oldlol:

[PickernRoller]

Winning in the weakest conference in history with the best supporting cast in history (relative to league average) doesn't count.

So it's more like 5>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>0.

:oldlol:

I was told there is such thing as -0.10.