Rumor: LMA wants off the Blazers, lists Bulls as desired destination

[Levity]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/6/26/4467454/nba-trade-rumors-lamarcus-aldridge-chicago-bulls-portland-trail-blazers

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/6/26/4467270/ford-solid-chance-that-blazers-trade-lamarcus-aldridge

Search LMA and bulls and youre bound to find a recent article basically saying what the OP title says. If there is any truth to what these articles are saying, then Aldridge doesnt want to be part of Portlands rebuilding process and named the bulls as his team of choice. Portland is asking for Noah in return, but the bulls promptly said no. and countered with Deng and the bobcats future 1st round pick

So take this with a grain of salt, but LMA on the bulls... something youd love, chicago fans?

Losing LMA in a rebuilding process... how would you feel about that, portland fans?

[Fudge]

He should've been a Bull. Stupid ass Chicago had to trade him for Tyrus Thomas. :oldlol:

[(e)]

I was bitter when we traded him on draft night for Tyrus Thomas. LMA is exactly who I wanted in Chicago.

I'd give up Deng and the Bobcats pick for LMA. I'd even toss in the 20th pick if it meant we got another player or pick in return.

Question then is, what happens to Boozer? Amnestied right away?

[SilkkTheShocker]

I don't think Portland bites unless Chicago throws in Butler and the Charlotte pick.

[Inferno]

Well damn.

[(e)]

I don't think Portland bites unless Chicago throws in Butler and the Charlotte pick.
Bulls wouldn't give up Deng, Butler and the Bobcats pick. That's fcking retarded.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I honestly don't think Chicago would give up what it would take to get this deal done. They are notorious for falling in love with their core. Remember how the Baby Bulls team was always involved in trade rumors for guys like Kobe, Gasol, KG, etc?

[SilkkTheShocker]

Bulls wouldn't give up Deng, Butler and the Bobcats pick. That's fcking retarded.

You're overvaluing your assets like a typical Bulls fan. Trade Lamarcus means Portland is going to have to rebuild. Deng is worthless for them when they already have Batum

[tikay0]

Portland wanted Noah, Bulls said no.

Don't be surprised if the Bulls draft Dieng, and we trade Noah for LMA. I might want to take that back, or do I? :confusedshrug:

OR, 2014 FA, LMA and Mirotic. :eek:

[(e)]

Portland wanted Noah, Bulls said no.

Don't be surprised if the Bulls draft Dieng, and we trade Noah for LMA. I might want to take that back, or do I? :confusedshrug:

OR, 2014 FA, LMA and Mirotic. :eek:
City would riot if we traded Noah. He's safe.

[tikay0]

He should've been a Bull. Stupid ass Chicago had to trade him for Tyrus Thomas. :oldlol:

Rose or LMA? :confusedshrug:

Can't have one with the other. Marinate on that for a second.

[Kblaze8855]

Id take him gladly but not for Noah. Is that Bulls fan emotion talking?

Tell me.

[tikay0]

City would riot if we traded Noah. He's safe.

I know. I'm in full on trade mode. It's Summer time. No more basketball. Not thinking with a clear head. :oldlol:

[ConanRulesNBC]

Holy crap! Get this done, Bulls. Fix your ridiculous mistake you made on draft night back in 2006.

Get Boozer's ass out of here and get Aldridge!

Noah
Aldridge
Deng
Butler
Rose

2014 NBA champs!!

[tikay0]

Id take him gladly but not for Noah. Is that Bulls fan emotion talking?

Tell me.

Noah for LMA is one of those trades neither side can really be wrong on.

I wouldn't blame the Bulls, and I wouldn't be questioning why Bulls fans are pissed.

[Inferno]

Holy crap! Get this done, Bulls. Fix your ridiculous mistake you made on draft night back in 2006.

Get Boozer's ass out of here and get Aldridge!

Noah
Aldridge
Deng
Butler
Rose

2014 NBA champs!!

That lineup would definitely have a good shot at winning it all.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Give up Mirortic and Charlotte's pick and Boozer.

[(e)]

You're overvaluing your assets like a typical Bulls fan. Trade Lamarcus means Portland is going to have to rebuild. Deng is worthless for them when they already have Batum
Deng, Bobcats pick and the 20th pick (or maybe Thomas Robinson) for LaMarcus Aldridge is not overvaluing the assets. That's a pretty fair trade considering Portland wants to add pieces - that Bobcats pick could be HUGE.

Giving up Jimmy Buter, Luol Deng, and the Bobcats pick is way to much for LaMarcus Aldridge with the current state of the Bulls. Why would they get rid of 2 starters to create a fcking mess at PF (LMA, Boozer, Taj)?

[tikay0]

Give up Mirortic and Charlotte's pick and Boozer.

Mirotic stated he's only playing for the Bulls. He's not really a good trade chip.

Who in their right mind is taking Boozer?

[Levity]

Give up Mirortic and Charlotte's pick and Boozer.

swtich boozer(cause no way portland wants that contact if theyre rebuilding) with the expiring deng, and maybe thats a possibility.

move butler to the 3, and hopefully find a decent enough 2 guard that can knock down the 3 ball in free agency.

[veilside23]

maybe they would do this deng + taj for LMA ?

[tikay0]

Sadly Silk is right. There's no way they want Deng, when they already have Batum.

It's Noah or bust for them. Or some 3 way trade where they end up with a lottery pick and filler.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Not Noah. Blazers would be stupid though to pass up on the rights to Mirotic and if the Bulls were to throw in maybe Deng or Boozer and the Bobcat's pick.

Noah and Rose are off limits.

Edit: What about Taj?

Mirotic, Bobcat's pick, Taj Gibson, maybe this years first round pick too?

Bulls amnesty Boozer. Sign a free agent back up 4. It would still leave them with a ridiculous starting lineup of Noah/Aldridge/Deng/Butler/Rose.

[Fudge]

Rose or LMA? :confusedshrug:

Can't have one with the other. Marinate on that for a second.
Why couldn't they have both? :confusedshrug: Rose was drafed 2 years later, while Aldridge wasn't really spectacular in his first season.

[ConanRulesNBC]

The only way I'd even consider Noah is if the Bulls still had Asik.

[tikay0]

Why couldn't they have both? :confusedshrug: Rose was drafed 2 years later, while Aldridge wasn't really spectacular in his first season.

Let's be real here. That draft was straight up rigged for us bro. :oldlol:

If we had LMA, no way Stern allows us to get the #1 pick.

Not to mention, LMA, Kirk, Deng, BG7 wasn't going to be a bottom team.

[(e)]

maybe they would do this deng + taj for LMA ?
I'd probably do that. Taj is a nice piece, but dropping his contract would probably mean Nate Robinson stays. Plus the 20th pick could be used to find Taj's replacement (maybe Trob as rumored).

[SilkkTheShocker]

maybe they would do this deng + taj for LMA ?

Portland is going to want picks and young players. That trade doesn't help them rebuild.

[tikay0]

Not Noah. Blazers would be stupid though to pass up on the rights to Mirotic and if the Bulls were to throw in maybe Deng or Boozer and the Bobcat's pick.

Noah and Rose are off limits.

Edit: What about Taj?

Mirotic, Bobcat's pick, Taj Gibson, maybe this years first round pick too?

Bulls amnesty Boozer. Sign a free agent back up 4. It would still leave them with a ridiculous starting lineup of Noah/Aldridge/Deng/Butler/Rose.

Do you not read? I already told you Mirotic is only playing for the Bulls. How is he an asset?

[ConanRulesNBC]

Do you not read? I already told you Mirotic is only playing for the Bulls. How is he an asset?

When did he say that? And does he really even have a choice? Don't the Bulls hold the rights to him? What's stopping them from trading him?

[tikay0]

When did he say that? And does he really even have a choice? Don't the Bulls hold the rights to him? What's stopping them from trading him?

He's stated that numerous times. Of course the Bulls can trade him, but what good does that do, if he can just stay overseas and still get paid more than the MLE? :confusedshrug:

Teams aren't dumb. They know that Mirotic only wants to play for the Bulls.

Why even take the risk if you're Portland?

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Here you go...I got this:

LMA to Bulls
Luol Deng to Cavs
Tristan Thompson, Alonzo Gee, 19th & 20th picks to Portland

Cavs then draft Noel.
Bulls then amnesty Boozer.

EDIT: maybe the Cavs are giving up too much for Deng. I'm thinking they should keep their 19th pick and/or Gee.

[tikay0]

Here you go...I got this:

LMA to Bulls
Luol Deng to Cavs
Tristan Thompson, Alonzo Gee, 19th & 20th picks to Portland

Cavs then draft Noel.
Bulls then amnesty Boozer.

Portland hangs up the phone and puts a hit out on you.

[ConanRulesNBC]

I think Taj, Deng, Bobcats pick would be fair.

[pegasus]

He's stated that numerous times. Of course the Bulls can trade him, but what good does that do, if he can just stay overseas and still get paid more than the MLE? :confusedshrug:

Teams aren't dumb. They know that Mirotic only wants to play for the Bulls.

Why even take the risk if you're Portland?
Did he say that because of Rose? Maybe he'd be open to the idea of playing with Lillard too.

I've been dreaming about having LMA on the Bulls for years now. It'd be so sweet if we can get him without giving up Rose or Noah. I'd be OK with a package of Butler + Taj + Bobcats' pick. Don't think Portland would touch Deng or Boozer.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Did he say that because of Rose? Maybe he'd be open to the idea of playing with Lillard too.

I've been dreaming about having LMA on the Bulls for years now. It'd be so sweet if we can get him without giving up Rose or Noah. I'd be OK with a package of Butler + Taj + Bobcats' pick. Don't think Portland would touch Deng or Boozer.

Why wouldn't they want Deng? He's a good player and has an expiring contract.

[Mr Know It All]

Rose
Butler
Deng
Aldridge
Noah

God damn that would be a disgusting team. Guess the Bulls will have to give up 1 or 2 of those guys to snag LMA though.

[tikay0]

Did he say that because of Rose? Maybe he'd be open to the idea of playing with Lillard too.

I've been dreaming about having LMA on the Bulls for years now. It'd be so sweet if we can get him without giving up Rose or Noah. I'd be OK with a package of Butler + Taj + Bobcats' pick. Don't think Portland would touch Deng or Boozer.

I'm guessing Rose, maybe he just really likes the way we play, or he's an MJ's Bulls homer. Either way you slice it, he's stated numerous times, he only wants to play for the Bulls.

I'd jump up and down if we got LMA for butler/Taj/Bob's pick, that's why it ain't happening.

[Fudge]

Why wouldn't they want Deng? He's a good player and has an expiring contract.
Because they would have no use for him? :confusedshrug: Why give up an all-star big for a player with an expiring contract who's gonna play behind Batum?

[ConanRulesNBC]

Because they would have no use for him? :confusedshrug: Why give up an all-star big for a player with an expiring contract who's gonna play behind Batum?

They'll have an expiring contract and clear up room for the 2014 free agency.

[TheFan]

Damn... this would be amazing... if The bulls landed LMA without losing many key pieces...

But it won't happen, the Bulls won't trade Noah and thats the only way i could see Portland working a deal with them.

LMA trade value is too high right now... He is probably the best offensive big man in the league.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Are Bulls fans being ridiculous in not wanting to give up Noah for Aldridge? Is Aldridge better than Noah? Could Aldridge play the center position?

Aldridge
Taj
Deng
Butler
Rose

How good would that lineup be?

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Portland hangs up the phone and puts a hit out on you.

:roll:
you are prolly right. I'm a big fan of LMA.

[Meticode]

He should've been a Bull. Stupid ass Chicago had to trade him for Tyrus Thomas. :oldlol:
Sh!t happens.

[Fudge]

Are Bulls fans being ridiculous in not wanting to give up Noah for Aldridge? Is Aldridge better than Noah? Could Aldridge play the center position?

Aldridge
Taj
Deng
Butler
Rose

How good would that lineup be?
They gain about 7-8 more points a game at the C position, but they'd lose their biggest advantage over a lot of teams -- defense and rebounding.

[Meticode]

Are Bulls fans being ridiculous in not wanting to give up Noah for Aldridge? Is Aldridge better than Noah? Could Aldridge play the center position?

Aldridge
Taj
Deng
Butler
Rose

How good would that lineup be?
I like how you throw LMA into the center spot like he can play it. If they trade Noah they'll have no good center, all undersized forwards to play the position.

[ConanRulesNBC]

I like how you throw LMA into the center spot like he can play it. If they trade Noah they'll have no good center, all undersized forwards to play the position.

That's why I clearly asked can he play the center position in that same post. :facepalm

[DStebb716]

LMA, to me, is one of the most valuable players in the league. Would be a very tough deal to get done.

[PassTheRock]

I like how you throw LMA into the center spot like he can play it. If they trade Noah they'll have no good center, all undersized forwards to play the position.

Lma isnt undersized. Just sayin

[TexasBloodMoney]

This has been brewing for a while but just because he wants to be traded, doesn't mean that Portland is gonna take a bunch of trash back just for him to be on a contending team. If there aren't any good offers, the blazers can still try and put together a competitive roster for the 13-14' season and either keep him or trade him then. He's a one of the best PFs on a very reasonable contract, he has a good amount of value.

But let's say Portland and Chicago do want to deal, there's no way a deal gets done without Butler and picks. If the blazers are trading Aldridge it's to do a complete rebuild, not to take on expensive role players so they can narrowly miss the playoffs every year.

Wouldn't mind sending LMA to either Dallas or Houston if he absolutely has to be traded.

[RIP CITY]

I can understand the idea of wanting to acquire Aldridge without giving up Noah, the tandem of them together would be very good and make them title contenders (though I still wouldn't put money on them beating Miami), it makes sense. But please tell me people don't actually believe Noah is a better player than Aldridge? He's not, it's not really that close either.

If worst comes to worst and Portland won't take any other offer the Bulls can make, you trade Noah for Aldridge and look for a defensive big somewhere else to pair with LMA.

[Carbine]

Noah is not as good a scorer as Aldridge, but he's better at everything else.

[PickernRoller]

Dude deserves to get out of that shit hole that is the Blazers and contend for a ring already or at least get some playoff burn.....no offense to Blazer fans. You all can still root for Damian......

I am all down for anything that makes the East more competitive and I really think LMA deserves a better team.

[ConanRulesNBC]

If it came down to them accepting Butler and picks I would give up Butler. I really like Butler but Noah/Aldridge/Rose is a championship core. Bulls would have to keep Deng and go out and sign someone like JJ Redick.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Wut. Noah is a better player than Aldridge and if I'm building a team, I take Noah 9 out of 10 times over Aldridge unless I already have an all-star center on the roster. Even then I would consider Noah at PF if their games mesh.

[RandyMarsh1]

Don't see Aldridge moving without the Bulls giving up Noah

Blazers already have Batum so theres no need for Dengs heavy contract and Butler

[Rekindled]

Don't see Aldridge moving without the Bulls giving up Noah

Blazers already have Batum so theres no need for Dengs heavy contract and Butler

no way bulls move Noah for Aldridge. Noah is clearly the heart of the bulls, they went to the 2nd round with him as their best player.

[ihatetimthomas]

Id take him gladly but not for Noah. Is that Bulls fan emotion talking?

Tell me.

Not totally but somewhat. I think LA is exactly what the bulls need. A true inside post presence. One of the best big men in the game. He would work extremely well with rose and I think they are better.

Noah is one of my favorite players but Bulls need that true #2 option. Aldridge is that guy and he is in his prime. I am one of the biggest fans of Noah. I love his intensity, defensive effort and toughness. He puts up decent stats but his impact is not seen in the stats.

If I had a #1 and 2 option, I am never trading Noah bc he just does so well making others better and anchoring that defense. But if you have the chance for one of the most skilled big men in the game, can't turn that down IMO. I think he can take bulls to next level

[Levity]

Don't see Aldridge moving without the Bulls giving up Noah

Blazers already have Batum so theres no need for Dengs heavy contract and Butler

While i do agree with the majority of what you said, i disagree about dengs contract. It is a pretty penny, yes. but if the blazers are indeed rebuilding, having 15 million coming off the books by season end is a great thing to have going into the 14/15 free agency pool.

Regardless, i dont see a deal being made between the two teams, unless Butler, possibly gibson, and future picks (ie bobcats 1st) are involved.

[ihatetimthomas]

no way bulls move Noah for Aldridge. Noah is clearly the heart of the bulls, they went to the 2nd round with him as their best player.
Not trying to discredit what Noah brought and how depleted their team was but lets not act like getting to the 2nd round is anything special. And it really was the collective effort of the entire team that got them there.

[Rekindled]

Not trying to discredit what Noah brought and how depleted their team was but lets not act like getting to the 2nd round is anything special. And it really was the collective effort of the entire team that got them there.

but why would you trade something that's certain to work for uncertainty.

[poido123]

Portland is going to want picks and young players. That trade doesn't help them rebuild.

That's where you're wrong.

Deng comes off the books after this year. That is 14 mill right there of capspace, then adding taj would still leave around the 5 mill a year space and a young PF the Blazers can certainly use.

Perhaps bulls should do Hinrich and Taj and someone else to make up salaries? Throw in this years pick and the charlotte pick that could get it done.

[KingTut]

Trade any one not name Noah, Rose & Butler.

[ihatetimthomas]

but why would you trade something that's certain to work for uncertainty.
What do you mean "certain to work"? They have not won anything yet. They havnt even been to the finals. And it's not like Aldridge is unproven or anything.

[poido123]

Bulls need to find a way to make this work.

Aldridge and Noah would be a perfect combo, Aldridge hitting his turnaround jumpers and Noah going to work on the inside and hitting the boards. Aldridge is a reliable first or second scoring option to put alongside Rose and a guy who will at least provide decent defense unlike Boozer.

If we can pull it off without losing Butler, Rose or Noah, we will have the team that can go all the way and an unquestionable contender. Good balance of offense and defense, with good spacing and the right players playing with each other.

[StocktonFan]

strumming his pain with his finger killing me softly with his song

[Kblaze8855]

The Bulls are on a 64.4 win pace when Derrick Rose plays since 2010.

I dont think the team needs fixing enough to give up your best defensive player for a better scorer. We probably win 60-65 games healthy without a trade at all.

[ihatetimthomas]

Bulls need to find a way to make this work.

Aldridge and Noah would be a perfect combo, Aldridge hitting his turnaround jumpers and Noah going to work on the inside and hitting the boards. Aldridge is a reliable first or second scoring option to put alongside Rose and a guy who will at least provide decent defense unlike Boozer.

If we can pull it off without losing Butler, Rose or Noah, we will have the team that can go all the way and an unquestionable contender. Good balance of offense and defense, with good spacing and the right players playing with each other.

Bulls are not going to make it work if none of those guys are involved. Bulls just do not have the necessary assets to make this happen. Why do the Blazers trade their star big for anything other than those guys?

[bluechox2]

who are the other teams on that "list"

[ihatetimthomas]

The Bulls are on a 64.4 win pace when Derrick Rose plays since 2010.

I dont think the team needs fixing enough to give up your best defensive player for a better scorer. We probably win 60-65 games healthy without a trade at all.

Not really worried about the reg season, more so the post season.

The current team healthy can get to 60 wins and can be top 2 in the east, but teams without 2 legit scorers struggle agains the best teams in the NBA.

Last time the core went to the playoffs healthy back a couple years ago, they lost to the Heat bc they struggled offensively. Rose was the man, but not much help anywhere else. This is what will happen with the current team and makeup. There is just not another player who can create offense for himself.

[Kblaze8855]

Go look at what Vince carter, AI, Shaq(from LA),Jermaine Oneal(from the pacers), Ray Allen and a hell of a lot of stars got traded for and throw "You cant get it done without ____ " out a little less often.

Every time some star is up to be traded people post unrealistic packages for him and most end up getting way less. Not all. But most. And most are bigger stars than Aldridge. A version of Shaq who was 6 votes from being MVP was traded for Lamar Odom and a 9ppg 38% shooting Caron Butler who later became very good. But it isnt far more at the time of the trade than Deng on an expiring deal and a likely high lottery pick.

Really...bobcats unprotected?

Might as well call it a top 5 pick.

Its sure as hell more than Aaron Williams and Zo who never played for the Raptors which is what they got for Vince Carter who still had like 5 years of star basketball in him.

Deng and a top 5 pick are more than Andre Miller which is about what the76ers got for AI.

What was Webber traded for? Kenny Thomas and filler? He was falling off then...but he went to the Kings for I think....aging Mitch Richmond?


Big expiring deal + valuable lottery pick isnt far off what teams often give up...especially for guys asking to be traded.

Im nto saying it wont involve Butler or Noah if it happens.

Im saying...history shows us "They would have to get ____" to not really be the case many times.

Not when the guy in question isnt elite.

[poido123]

The Bulls are on a 64.4 win pace when Derrick Rose plays since 2010.

I dont think the team needs fixing enough to give up your best defensive player for a better scorer. We probably win 60-65 games healthy without a trade at all.

I am not down with trading Noah at all.

The whole reason of getting aldridge is to pair him with Noah. But I'm happy for the bulls to stay as is for a year, and see how we pan out. Bulls should not look to extend Deng, unless of course we win the championship :pimp:

[LBJMVP]

lamarcus aldridge is soooooo underrated...

i already know he is super good, but when i say his name in my head it's like i barely recognize it.

i guess because espn never brings him up ever... it's a travesty.

like if you said his name in front of a guy who kind of watches basketball who isnt from portland they would be like, "who the f*ck is lamarcus aldridge."


but he average 21/9 and was a top pick in 06

[Kblaze8855]

Not really worried about the reg season, more so the post season.

The current team healthy can get to 60 wins and can be top 2 in the east, but teams without 2 legit scorers struggle agains the best teams in the NBA.

Last time the core went to the playoffs healthy back a couple years ago, they lost to the Heat bc they struggled offensively. Rose was the man, but not much help anywhere else. This is what will happen with the current team and makeup. There is just not another player who can create offense for himself.

I dont think its quite as simple as "It happened so it will happen again". Back to back best record in the NBA isnt something to dismiss because you lost one series(Rose hurt during game 1 win vs philly....and im clearly talking about a healthy bulls team).

Noah was a big part of that.

[poido123]

Bulls are not going to make it work if none of those guys are involved. Bulls just do not have the necessary assets to make this happen. Why do the Blazers trade their star big for anything other than those guys?

Capspace and adding a young piece like Taj to replace Aldridge...

Other than that, you're right.

[poido123]

Go look at what Vince carter, AI, Shaq(from LA),Jermaine Oneal(from the pacers), Ray Allen and a hell of a lot of stars got traded for and throw "You cant get it done without ____ " out a little less often.

Every time some star is up to be traded people post unrealistic packages for him and most end up getting way less. Not all. But most. And most are bigger stars than Aldridge. A version of Shaq who was 6 votes from being MVP was traded for Lamar Odom and a 9ppg 38% shooting Caron Butler who later became very good. But it isnt far more at the time of the trade than Deng on an expiring deal and a likely high lottery pick.

Really...bobcats unprotected?

Might as well call it a top 5 pick.

Its sure as hell more than Aaron Williams and Zo who never played for the Raptors which is what they got for Vince Carter who still had like 5 years of star basketball in him.

Deng and a top 5 pick are more than Andre Miller which is about what the76ers got for AI.

What was Webber traded for? Kenny Thomas and filler? He was falling off then...but he went to the Kings for I think....aging Mitch Richmond?


Big expiring deal + valuable lottery pick isnt far off what teams often give up...especially for guys asking to be traded.

Im nto saying it wont involve Butler or Noah if it happens.

Im saying...history shows us "They would have to get ____" to not really be the case many times.

Not when the guy in question isnt elite.


Bulls will regret trading one or both of those two if they did get traded.

I'm hoping Blazers take Deng and pick, but I find it hard to see that happening. Taj + Hinrich and pick would maybe work too. Hinrich is a 4 mill expirer.

[L3B120N J4M35]

Could they amnesty someone?

if so amnesty booz, trade deng + scrubs for aldridge and sign iggy.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Bulls will regret trading one or both of those two if they did get traded.

I'm hoping Blazers take Deng and pick, but I find it hard to see that happening. Taj + Hinrich and pick would maybe work too. Hinrich is a 4 mill expirer.

If the Blazers just want Butler... I say give him up. I'm not giving up Noah though. Butler & picks is fine with me. I like Butler but I'm not attached to him. Just keep Luol Deng, sign someone like JJ Redick. A Noah/Aldridge/Deng/Redick/Rose starting lineup would be awesome.

[poido123]

If the Blazers just want Butler... I say give him up. I'm not giving up Noah though. Butler & picks is fine with me. I like Butler but I'm not attached to him. Just keep Luol Deng, sign someone like JJ Redick. A Noah/Aldridge/Deng/Redick/Rose starting lineup would be awesome.

It kills our framework.

We have discovered that Butler is one of the best defensive guards on Lebron and is a guy who essentially can do everything Deng can do and better. Keeping Deng who is 28 and high mileage the last few years would be a mistake IMO. He doesnt defend Bron well, and he is one dimensional and likely to regress in the next year or so...

I do like Deng, but he doesnt fit our future or present needs if you take into consideration his contract situation and the emergence of Butler.

[tikay0]

There are serious talks between the Bulls and Blazers right now. Shit just got real.

[tikay0]

So far, they're talking to the Cavs and Bulls, and the Bulls seem to have the better offer, hinging on what Deng brings back.

A lot of other teams are currently inquiring now.

[poido123]

So far, they're talking to the Cavs and Bulls, and the Bulls seem to have the better offer, hinging on what Deng brings back.

A lot of other teams are currently inquiring now.

Source Tikay?

Ive done a few searches on Bulls rumours, but only found 2 days ago that Bulls Deng likely to stay and some older rumours...

[fpliii]

I don't follow Chicago too closely, but two comments:

1) You can't deal Noah, no matter the price. He's the heart of the team, and one of the most impactful players in the league.

2) I don't think it's worth it to amnesty Boozer. He's looked better in Thibs' system, and even if you don't want to keep him aboard, IMO he has some value now so at least try and get something.

[Fudge]

Capspace and adding a young piece like Taj to replace Aldridge...

Other than that, you're right.
Taj isn't exactly young. Isn't he the same age, or even older than Aldridge?

[StocktonFan]

will give you pau, a huge expirer

[poido123]

I don't follow Chicago too closely, but two comments:

1) You can't deal Noah, no matter the price. He's the heart of the team, and one of the most impactful players in the league.

2) I don't think it's worth it to amnesty Boozer. He's looked better in Thibs' system, and even if you don't want to keep him aboard, IMO he has some value now so at least try and get something.


Yes, Noah's value extends beyond stats etc. and bleeds Bulls.

Bulls should target teams looking to rebuild and offload Boozer for teams looking to free capspace for 2014. I still believe the market is non-existent, nobody wants him.

[tikay0]

Source Tikay?

Ive done a few searches on Bulls rumours, but only found 2 days ago that Bulls Deng likely to stay and some older rumours...

Credible sources on message boards. Laugh all you want, but they've come through a couple times.

One of them work within the Bulls ORG.

[poido123]

Taj isn't exactly young. Isn't he the same age, or even older than Aldridge?

He's 27...Still has 4 of his best years in front of him and can definately average 16 and 10 with 2 blocks in the right situation.

[97 bulls]

Its very exciting, but I'm not holding my breath on this one. Hiw many times have we seen these rumors over the years?

Kevin Garnett

Pau Gasol

Vince Carter

Tracy McGrady

Grant Hill

Theres a laundry list of players that have been rumored to want to join the Bulls.

[JohnnyBravo5]

I'll raise you Smoove and one of our draft pics.

[All Net]

Would take noah and Deng I imagine..doubt it happens.

[LosBulls]

Portland wanted Noah, Bulls said no.

Don't be surprised if the Bulls draft Dieng, and we trade Noah for LMA. I might want to take that back, or do I? :confusedshrug:

OR, 2014 FA, LMA and Mirotic. :eek:
I'm convinced you're a retard.

[poido123]

I'll raise you Smoove and one of our draft pics.

I'm not against it, but I think Aldridge would fit best. Smith is cringeworthy on his jumpers and we need a guy to create spacing for Noah to hustle under the basket and create driving lanes for Rose.

[G-train]

He's 27...Still has 4 of his best years in front of him and can definately average 16 and 10 with 2 blocks in the right situation.

I find that pretty unlikely.

More of a 11/8 1.5 block in 28 mins guy.

[G-train]

I don't buy these rumours.

I don't believe Deng/Noah/Gibson would be involved in the trade, only Carlos Boozer and other pieces.

Which I doubt the Blazers take.

[Inferno]

Damn. Things seem to be getting very real.

[tikay0]

I'm convinced you're a retard.

Why are you on my dick? Its not healthy for a boy to be infatuated with a grown ass man.

[d.bball.guy]

I want him to stay just because he's on my Blazers in 2K13 :lol

[Inferno]

I want him to stay just because he's on my Blazers in 2K13 :lol

:lol

[d.bball.guy]

http://i43.tinypic.com/35n0h3m.jpg

[DuMa]

one little rumor and bulls fans go crazy

[LosBulls]

Why are you on my dick? Its not healthy for a boy to be infatuated with a grown ass man.
Being on your dick would imply I like you or somehow agree with you on anything.

I am offended by most of your posts on this board by the plain stupidity of them. If there were an ignore feature implemented on this forum, you would have the honor of being the first one on the list.

Its a shame you claim to be a fan of the same team as me when in reality you're only here because of Derrick Rose.

Why are you on Derrick Rose's dick? Its not healthy for a boy to be infatuated with a grown ass man.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Our management sucks. We traded this guy for Ty Thomas? Dios mio. Our squad with the best low post scorer in the game makes us beyond legit, and an actual threat to the Heat. Trade Gibson, Boozer, and Deng plus Bobcat pick. Get it done. He should've been ours anyway. Is it confirmed LMA wants to play in Chicago?

This lineup:

C - Noah
PF - Aldridge
SF - Butler
SG - Hinrich
PG - Rose

Is VERY nice. Defense galore both on the perimeter and in the paint, plus perimeter and interior scoring. That's ECF appearance lock right there.

[BoutPractice]

Not giving up Noah, arguably one of the most valuable players in the league, is the right move.

The Bulls' goal should be to end up with a LaMarcus Aldridge/Joakim Noah frontcourt. The perfect mix of offense and defense, this could instantly become the best frontcourt in the league along with Randolph/Gasol and West/Hibbert.

Add to that Rose's return and Butler's emergence... the Bulls would have a great shot at eliminating Miami. Deng, Boozer and pretty much everyone else on the roster is worth losing if they can have Rose, LMA and Noah on the same team.

[tikay0]

Being on your dick would imply I like you or somehow agree with you on anything.

I am offended by most of your posts on this board by the plain stupidity of them. If there were an ignore feature implemented on this forum, you would have the honor of being the first one on the list.

Its a shame you claim to be a fan of the same team as me when in reality you're only here because of Derrick Rose.

Why are you on Derrick Rose's dick? Its not healthy for a boy to be infatuated with a grown ass man.

All those words and you still haven't said shit. Get off my nuts. I'm not Lebron.

[Tmuston Beltics]

What a coincidence.. In my career he just got transferred to Minnesota :D

[bdreason]

I looked over the trade machine for a good 10 minutes, and I couldn't find a single trade that really made sense for the Blazers and the other team.

[bdreason]

And why the **** would Portland want Boozer and/or Deng? If they move LMA, it's because they want to get younger, not older.

[Wavves]

As much as I love Lamarcus, if we can get back some great assets, I'll welcome a trade for him. Being able to have multiple picks in 2014 with it looking to be such a great draft is extremely tempting. Especially with it giving us more of a chance to land a very high pick with our own.

I don't see a Bulls trade working out unless it involves another team.

[All Net]

http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2013/06/blazers_insider_although_lamar.html

sounds like one big mix up to me..

[Trentknicks]

As much as I love Lamarcus, if we can get back some great assets, I'll welcome a trade for him. Being able to have multiple picks in 2014 with it looking to be such a great draft is extremely tempting. Especially with it giving us more of a chance to land a very high pick with our own.

I don't see a Bulls trade working out unless it involves another team.
Why you so obsessed with the Knicks in your avi sig?

[poido123]

And why the **** would Portland want Boozer and/or Deng? If they move LMA, it's because they want to get younger, not older.

Its not always the player themselves that is attractive. Its often what the contract acquired can do to clear up capspace. So many young guys on here don't understand NBA trades at all.

Which is why Deng and Boozer suddenly become more valuable. They are expiring contracts and large ones that allow a rebuilding team to acquire max players in the future or resign their stars.

[Wavves]

Why you so obsessed with the Knicks in your avi sig?

:oldlol: I completly forgot about that, that was for the night you got kicked out of the playoffs.

[1rkrage]

Only one that should be untouchable on the roster is Rose imo.

[BlazersDozen]

There's nothing the Bulls can offer outside Noah that will convince the Blazers to trade Aldridge. Just because Aldridge wants to go to the Bulls, doesn't mean he will. Also, there's probably a list of teams & Bulls are just on top. I could also see Aldridge wanting to play in Houston or Atlanta but I think Portland reopens talks with Cleveland.

[WhySoInsecure?]

I looked over the trade machine for a good 10 minutes, and I couldn't find a single trade that really made sense for the Blazers and the other team.
Cleveland or Washington should hop on it. Both teams can give up their top pick and some throw ins to make it work.

[bdreason]

Its not always the player themselves that is attractive. Its often what the contract acquired can do to clear up capspace. So many young guys on here don't understand NBA trades at all.

Which is why Deng and Boozer suddenly become more valuable. They are expiring contracts and large ones that allow a rebuilding team to acquire max players in the future or resign their stars.


Aldridge is a young, all-star caliber PF. What exactly are the Blazers going to do with cap space that's better than LMA?

Also, if you're rebuilding, you don't want to bring in quality vets. All that does is leave you with lower draft picks.

[Inferno]

If LMA does leave, can Lillard be a #1 option for the Blazers? Can he average 20+ PPG on better efficiency than his first season?

[Kiddlovesnets]

The Nets would love to have him playing next to Brook Lopez.
:D

[SamuraiSWISH]

With a declining Wade, a non-existent Chris Bosh.

The Bulls with a lineup of: Noah, Aldridge, Butler, Hinrich, Rose

That team can beat the Heat in a seven game series, I'm totally convinced of that too. And that isn't homer hype. I think that's plausible reality.

[qrich]

DeAndre Jordan + #25 for LMA


Get it done Sacks!!!

[TexasBloodMoney]

With a declining Wade, a non-existent Chris Bosh.

The Bulls with a lineup of: Noah, Aldridge, Butler, Hinrich, Rose

That team can beat the Heat in a seven game series, I'm totally convinced of that too. And that isn't homer hype. I think that's plausible reality.


No shit that team could beat the heat, but the blazers aren't accepting some crap offer just because. This rumor has been blown out of proportion.

[R.I.P.]

DeAndre Jordan + #25 for LMA


Get it done Sacks!!!

:roll:

The Blazers already turned down #1 and #19. I don

[SamuraiSWISH]

No shit that team could beat the heat, but the blazers aren't accepting some crap offer just because. This rumor has been blown out of proportion.
And you're taking your venom out on me, why?

[Levity]

DeAndre Jordan + #25 for LMA


Get it done Sacks!!!

Ive read a lot about a DJ + picks/filler for LMA trade, but each of those articles ended the same, "wheres the fit" in regards to having both BG and LMA on a team. Could LMA play C long term for the clippers?

[TexasBloodMoney]

And you're taking your venom out on me, why?

I'm sorry :cry:




Ive read a lot about a DJ + picks/filler for LMA trade, but each of those articles ended the same, "wheres the fit" in regards to having both BG and LMA on a team. Could LMA play C long term for the clippers?

If the blazers were to trade for Deandre it would be to play him next to Aldridge, not for him.

[ConanRulesNBC]

I still say Bulls have the best to offer. Taj + Butler + Charlotte's pick.

[nathanjizzle]

taj gibson and loul deng for lma. or mirotic rights for lma.

to me, untouchables are joakim, rose, and butler. i say butler because he has massive potential, and hes a key player in beating the heat in a series.

[ConanRulesNBC]

taj gibson and loul deng for lma. or mirotic rights for lma.

to me, untouchables are joakim, rose, and butler. i say butler because he has massive potential, and hes a key player in beating the heat in a series.

If the Blazers insist on one of either Noah or Butler I'll give up Butler pretty easily. I'm not as attached to him as I am Noah. I think Noah/Aldridge/Rose plus Deng and maybe signing JJ Redick would be huge.

[blazerftc]

Here's the next silly scenario: involve Cleveland with Verajao and the #1 to Portland, for LMA and the #10. Irving needs a glimmer of a winning team to stay with the cavs. Might've a good start instead of constantly leaning on draftees.

[qrich]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]:roll:

The Blazers already turned down #1 and #19. I don

[bladefd]

S&T Dwight for Aldridge/Hickson. Then Gasol for Iguodala.

Nash
Kobe
Iguodala
Hickson
Aldridge

:cheers:

[(e)]

So after having a day to sit on this, doesn't seem like its going to get done unless Chicago includes Noah. While I'd get over it, I really don't want to trade Noah. I'd hate seeing him play for another team.

Luol Dengs expiring contract makes sense for a rebuilding team because they wouldn't have to commit long term and would get 14 million off the books a year earlier as opposed to keeping LaMarcus. Not to mention, they'd be worse to score a higher draft pick.

Bobcats pick. Not sure it's LaMarcus Aldridge value, but hard to deny it has some value.

Use 20th pick for Thomas Robinson, and trade him to Portland.

Luol Deng, Thomas Robinson, Bobcats pick, future 1st, and Jeff Teague to Portland.

LaMarcus Aldridge to Chicago.

[TheReturn]

Man, am I the only Bulls fan who doesn't want to trade Deng?

[NugzFan]

DeAndre Jordan + #25 for LMA


Get it done Sacks!!!

:oldlol:

[NugzFan]

Ive read a lot about a DJ + picks/filler for LMA trade, but each of those articles ended the same, "wheres the fit" in regards to having both BG and LMA on a team. Could LMA play C long term for the clippers?

yeah...thats the reason why this deal isnt happening. :rolleyes:

[NugzFan]

I still say Bulls have the best to offer. Taj + Butler + Charlotte's pick.

says the bulls fan.

[longtime lurker]

I still say Bulls have the best to offer. Taj + Butler + Charlotte's pick.

This makes the most sense considering the Bulls are in win now mode. Makes some sense for Portland too, they save money get a PF with a strong upside and Butler has some good potential.

[NugzFan]

S&T Dwight for Aldridge/Hickson. Then Gasol for Iguodala.

Nash
Kobe
Iguodala
Hickson
Aldridge

:cheers:

either my sarcasm meter is way off today or do fans really think posting stupid trade ideas is fun?

[Myth]

And Clippers would never consider Blake for Aldridge....ever.




They would if the rumors of Paul not being a big Griffin fan are true.

[Go Getter]

Id take him gladly but not for Noah. Is that Bulls fan emotion talking?

Tell me.
I don't think so. We need offense but not at the expense of the heart of the team.

The only people we don't trade are Rose and Noah. I'd give up any combo of players they wanted for LMA other than those 2.

[qrich]

They would if the rumors of Paul not being a big Griffin fan are true.

TJ Simers is worse than Pete Vescey. No fan of any L.A. team thinks he is credible.

[Levity]

yeah...thats the reason why this deal isnt happening. :rolleyes:

yeah... cause i said that's the reason that trade wouldnt happen.

[Da_Bulls_23]

Only if they take Boozer and picks (not Charlotte pick of course)...anything else I would not give up.

But Aldridge would fit in very nice with CHI.

[Go Getter]

Only if they take Boozer and picks (not Charlotte pick of course)...anything else I would not give up.

But Aldridge would fit in very nice with CHI.
I'd give up Boozer, Taj, either Deng or Jimmy, the trainers, the staff....ANYONE they wanted besides Rose and Noah.

[ConanRulesNBC]

Only if they take Boozer and picks (not Charlotte pick of course)...anything else I would not give up.

But Aldridge would fit in very nice with CHI.

That's just stupid. Give up anybody else not named Derrick Rose or Joakim Noah. Everyone else is up for grabs.

[NugzFan]

yeah... cause i said that's the reason that trade wouldnt happen.

you posted it.

dj + whatever for LMA has nothing to do with playing with BG or not fitting in.

[Da_Bulls_23]

I'd give up Boozer, Taj, either Deng or Jimmy, the trainers, the staff....ANYONE they wanted besides Rose and Noah.

I understand you have to give up something to get something.

Deng would be a hard sell because he does so much and is a great teammate. But if he doesn't budge on a lower salary then I suppose you can get value for him now especially since Jimmy can play that role.

Taj is a banger and would hate to give him up cuz he plays big man ball and is great of the bench.

But with Mirotic waiting in the wings you can afford to loose Taj and Boozer.

Part of the Bulls success came due to a deep/hard working bench. With this you would improve your Offense yes but limit your depth in the bench.

[Go Getter]

I understand you have to give up something to get something.

Deng would be a hard sell because he does so much and is a great teammate. But if he doesn't budge on a lower salary then I suppose you can get value for him now especially since Jimmy can play that role.

Taj is a banger and would hate to give him up cuz he plays big man ball and is great of the bench.

But with Mirotic waiting in the wings you can afford to loose Taj and Boozer.

Part of the Bulls success came due to a deep/hard working bench. With this you would improve your Offense yes but limit your depth in the bench.
Bench players are easier to replace than all-star PFs. We need STAR players that can play heavy minutes with Rose.

Of course we wouldn't give up ALL those players, but to get a scoring PF with a sweet J like that you gotta give something up. I think it is worth it to give up Deng and Taj even if that's what it takes.

[Da_Bulls_23]

That's just stupid. Give up anybody else not named Derrick Rose or Joakim Noah. Everyone else is up for grabs.

How is that stupid?

The point is to keep a deep team together and not get rid of your biggest (future) assets for 1 (All-Star) player.

Mirotic and the Charlotte pick should only be shopped if you can get an elite bonafide Superstar in return. LMA is a very good All-Star at best. The most you give up is Taj or Boozer and Deng or picks.

[Da_Bulls_23]

Bench players are easier to replace than all-star PFs. We need STAR players that can play heavy minutes with Rose.

Of course we wouldn't give up ALL those players, but to get a scoring PF with a sweet J like that you gotta give something up. I think it is worth it to give up Deng and Taj even if that's what it takes.

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, LMA is intriguing cuz he can play C also. And would love him on the Bulls. Taj/Deng and a future 1st rounder should be enough.

[Go Getter]

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, LMA is intriguing cuz he can play C also. And would love him on the Bulls. Taj/Deng and a future 1st rounder should be enough.
If that's not enough then they can kick rocks.

But

If we can get LMA we can move Boozer to the bench and make him our 6th man....be still my beating heart.

[MaxFly]

This would be a great pick up.

[Da_Bulls_23]

If that's not enough then they can kick rocks. Then we can move Boozer to the bench and make him our 6th man....be still my beating heart.

Yes, there are plenty of other deals out there that can be made. Exactly, Boozer can be insurance in case you hit an injury as well. Once Mirotic is ready to come over, then Boozer is gone.:rockon:

[Nezty]

Holy crap! Get this done, Bulls. Fix your ridiculous mistake you made on draft night back in 2006.

Get Boozer's ass out of here and get Aldridge!

Noah
Aldridge
Deng
Butler
Rose

2014 NBA champs!!


That line up vs.

Howard
Nowiztki
Marion
Mayo
Paul

In the Finals :bowdown:

[Go Getter]

Yes, there are plenty of other deals out there that can be made. Exactly, Boozer can be insurance in case you hit an injury as well. Once Mirotic is ready to come over, then Boozer is gone.:rockon:
:bowdown:

If this doesn't work we should target a SG imo.

[Da_Bulls_23]

:bowdown:

If this doesn't work we should target a SG imo.

With the current roster that and a back-up C is the biggest need. But its pretty clear Bulls have plenty of options, either way Rose needs someone to take pressure of him in offense.