I'm fukkin done with the Cavaliers!!

[PleezeBelieve]

:wtf:

[Jameerthefear]

:roll: :roll:

[Shade8780]

Wow wow wow wow wowwwww!

[noob cake]

You are going to abandon Irving?

[imnew09]

Irving is coming to the Lakers soon. You can hop on the lakerwagon.!

[CelticBaller]

:oldlol:

[Uncle Drew]

Still shocked.

[PleezeBelieve]

You can have any player on this fukkin roster

Free Dion Waiters!!

[Jameerthefear]

Irving is coming to the Lakers soon. You can hop on the lakerwagon.!
no one going to that sh1t team in a long time...

[PleezeBelieve]

What the f*ck are the Cavs doing ??????

I need answers RIGHT NOW!

[DStebb716]

Love how people talk about how shitty this draft is and then bitch like little school bitches when the pick doesn't go the way they want. This draft is equal in talent from one to about eight.

[Cowboy Thunder]

Make a song about it brew

[KyrieTheFuture]

Thank god get the **** out of our fan base you clown.

[PleezeBelieve]

Love how people talk about how shitty this draft is and then bitch like little school bitches when the pick doesn't go the way they want. This draft is equal in talent from one to about eight.
Clown shut up. Bennet was at least two inches shorter than Battier, maybe three.

Cavs already have Tristan.

Cavs passed on Noel.

Cavs are a laughing stock nationally... again

[HoopsFanNumero1]

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[97 bulls]

Clown shut up. Bennet was at least two inches shorter than Battier, maybe three.

Cavs already have Tristan.

Cavs passed on Noel.

Cavs are a laughing stock nationally... again
Lol

[derb2k2]

lmao @ NOel ahahaha

[GoRapz]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[veilside23]

so far the only good pick is porter .... oladipo is going to see the bench alot they already have afflalo

[TheFan]

http://i.minus.com/iUjtC1Bf7Zpex.gif

Every pick he goes undrafted he loses money... so id be like that too...

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Stern's the GOAT troll :lol

[HeyIt'sMe]

so far the only good pick is porter .... oladipo is going to see the bench alot they already have afflalo

Afflalo won't be on the roster long.

[The JKidd Kid]

https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/350362482247864322

"latest draft scuttlebutt I'm hearing: Cavs still looking to move top pick. If they take anyone but Alex Len, it could be part of a trade..." - Chris Broussard

[CavaliersFTW]

Clown shut up. Bennet was at least two inches shorter than Battier, maybe three.

Cavs already have Tristan.

Cavs passed on Noel.

Cavs are a laughing stock nationally... again
Just like we were the laughing stock for Waiters and Kyrie right? Look how awful they turned out to be :rolleyes:

[DukeDelonte13]

whelp, i've always said this kid is a ROY candidate. Not concerned about his size as much as I am his work ethic and bball iq. He has a 7'1' wingspan and a good frame.

[chips93]

Just like we were the laughing stock for Waiters and Kyrie right? Look how awful they turned out to be :rolleyes:

those guys fit though

i dont see how bennett fits with TT

[CavaliersFTW]

those guys fit though

i dont see how bennett fits with TT
I do, TT is not a scorer and never will be. Bennet is a scorer. We desperately needed a scoring forward. Forget about "small forward / power forward" nomenclature for a moment, both these guys are "forwards" and can share the floor being that their skill sets differ the way they do. Unless we trade him it appears to me that the Cavs are building an old school style line up that is concerned more about team chemistry and locker room chemistry than it is "which talented player playing X defined position is going to carry scrubs". We're just playing 2 forwards, like NBA teams did before the separation of nomenclature ever existed.

Now, I'm not saying our talent is the same, but this sort of reminds me of oldschool NY Knicks (early 70's). Kyrie/Dion like Clyde/Monroe (except that neither Kyrie nor Dion can lockdown on D like Frazier could unfortunately) and Debusschere and Lucas would be akin to Thompson and Bennett. One of them will be scoring more (in this case Bennet) and the other (TT) will be asked to focus a bit more on rebounds and defense. All playing slightly out of position, but it won't matter one bit if they click. The only thing is, we have NO satisfactory center IMO. Zeller won't cut it, and Andy won't be healthy. TT is way too small to play as a serious center in the NBA (6-7 and 3/4 w/o shoes and neither heavily built or exceptionally long enough to make up for it). We will see how Bennet performs but I can see where they can use him. We need his offense.

[sixer6ad]

What the f*ck are the Cavs doing ??????

I need answers RIGHT NOW!

I hope you seriously do go. It would give us instant credibility.

You'll be the first one on Bennett's ---- the first time he comes down and power slams someone through the rim.

Leave us. We want you to go. We like fans who have intelligence.

[sixer6ad]

Clown shut up. Bennet was at least two inches shorter than Battier, maybe three.

Cavs already have Tristan.

Cavs passed on Noel.

Cavs are a laughing stock nationally... again

Do you even realize how much scoring we've picked up in the first round?

[Straight_Ballin]

Cleveland logic:

"Vince Carter once played for a Canadian team and was pretty good, so lets draft Canadian players."

That about somes up the reasoning.

[Inferno]

:lol :lol

I was trying to check realcavsfans for their reactions but the forums are private right now :lol

[Straight_Ballin]

I'll head over there real quick.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

:wtf:

why? They went with a player that has more potential than anyone in this draft. IMO the only player that could become a superstar in this draft.

[dbk123]

why? They went with a player that has more potential than anyone in this draft. IMO the only player that could become a superstar in this draft.
You are dumb. Bennet does not have the most potential. I'd say he's not even in the top 3

[CavaliersFTW]

We needed a scoring forward to take the offensive load off Kyrie and Dion, so we got a scoring forward, I really don't see what the problem is :confusedshrug: time will tell how well he can play/mesh with the Cavs, there's nothing to be upset about yet

[PleezeBelieve]

Bennett is a POWER FORWARD.

He won't even start.

What are you people talking about?

[chips93]

We needed a scoring forward to take the offensive load off Kyrie and Dion, so we got a scoring forward, I really don't see what the problem is :confusedshrug: time will tell how well he can play/mesh with the Cavs, there's nothing to be upset about yet

i thought we needed defense more than anything

what do you think about tristan though?

tristan has gotten thrown in a couple trade proposals recently, maybe the cavs FO isnt that high on tristan, and saw PF as a position of need heading into the draft.

[chips93]

:lol :lol

I was trying to check realcavsfans for their reactions but the forums are private right now :lol

i just skimmed through it, its not as bad as i thought

chris grant has built up a lot of good will with the cavs fans

[bmulls]

We needed a scoring forward to take the offensive load off Kyrie and Dion, so we got a scoring forward, I really don't see what the problem is :confusedshrug: time will tell how well he can play/mesh with the Cavs, there's nothing to be upset about yet

Why not take Otto Porter if you want a scoring F

[Bibby4Three]

I really hope the Cavs are pulling some type of trade or else this pick was a JOKE.

[PleezeBelieve]

Draft Tristan two years ago @ #4 only to take Bennett #1 24 months later.

Awful

[PleezeBelieve]

Who would defend this move?

It's an atrocious personnel move. Can't begin to understand how idiotic this pick was. Even ifthis guy is what they hope he is in offense, he's a complete liability on defense.

SMFH ... dude will be posted up like a .43 cent stamp

[CavaliersFTW]

Who would defend this move?

It's an atrocious personnel move. Can't begin to understand how idiotic this pick was. Even ifthis guy is what they hope he is in offense, he's a complete liability on defense.

SMFH ... dude will be posted up like a .43 cent stamp
stop pretending you know how the future will pan out :oldlol:

[BlazersDozen]

He better have a great work ethic to lose those 20 pounds he's gained so far this offseason...maybe more if the Cavs want him to be a combo forward because he won't be quick enough at 240 to play SF at all. I agree that he's a good shooter and all that but I've been saying weeks leading up to the draft that he reminds me of Rodney Rogers to a tee. Same size, same skill set but Bennett is more athletic.

Rogers Freshman Year @ Wake Forest
16.3 PPG
7.9 RPG
1.5 APG
1.8 SPG
0.6 BPG
57% FG
29% 3PT (Got it to 36% in his Junior season)
67% FT

Anthony Bennett Freshman Year @ UNLV
16.1 PPG
8.1 RPG
1.0 APG
0.7 SPG
1.2 BPG
53% FG%
38% 3PT
70% FT

I stand pat on my Rodney Rogers comparison

[I<3NBA]

you're done with this pick yet you weren't when the Cavs FO lost Lebron? :lol

[d.bball.guy]

They took a scoring forward, something Thompson isn't. I'm not sure what the rotation will be but if Bennett plays the 3, he better improve his quickness to play against quick SFs. I still would've liked them to pick Porter or Noel, though.

[andremiller07]

Draymond Green played a lot @ the 3 this season off the bench and is the same body type and half the athlete Bennett is. Although Green has that edge to him I'm not really sure when Bennett is mentally like but people are making way to much about how he can't defend the 3, if Green can do it so can Bennett (if he wants).

[LBJMVP]

cavs havent gotten one pick wrong in the last two years and your done with the team.

i never really liked you as a cleveland fan anyway... you talk shit about everyone we pick and then once there good you claim that you called it.


:lol

[PleezeBelieve]

Draymond Green played a lot @ the 3 this season off the bench and is the same body type and half the athlete Bennett is. Although Green has that edge to him I'm not really sure when Bennett is mentally like but people are making way to much about how he can't defend the 3, if Green can do it so can Bennett (if he wants).
Lol @ you bringing up Green.

Man, you people are clueless.

This guy is a POWER FORWARD. Why would you want him to be on the perimeter anyway?

[andremiller07]

Lol @ you bringing up Green.

Man, you people are clueless.

This guy is a POWER FORWARD. Why would you want him to be on the perimeter anyway?

Green was a PF as well and he did ok dropping a bit of weight and adjusting to being able to defend SF's

[LBJMVP]

Green was a PF as well and he did ok dropping a bit of weight and adjusting to being able to defend SF's

yes, and bennet is a much much better prospect than green.

[tpols]

He better have a great work ethic to lose those 20 pounds he's gained so far this offseason...maybe more if the Cavs want him to be a combo forward because he won't be quick enough at 240 to play SF at all. I agree that he's a good shooter and all that but I've been saying weeks leading up to the draft that he reminds me of Rodney Rogers to a tee. Same size, same skill set but Bennett is more athletic.

Rogers Freshman Year @ Wake Forest
16.3 PPG
7.9 RPG
1.5 APG
1.8 SPG
0.6 BPG
57% FG
29% 3PT (Got it to 36% in his Junior season)
67% FT

Anthony Bennett Freshman Year @ UNLV
16.1 PPG
8.1 RPG
1.0 APG
0.7 SPG
1.2 BPG
53% FG%
38% 3PT
70% FT

I stand pat on my Rodney Rogers comparison
You want your first overall pick to be about as good as Rodney rogers:roll:

Hopefully your later first round pick becomes the next bobby Simmons. You guys are going places

[3LiftHeatCurse]

So Bennett is a SF right?

I thought Cavs hoped to recruit LeBron again

[no pun intended]

So Bennett is a SF right?

I thought Cavs hoped to recruit LeBron again
Hiring Mike Brown was the nail in the coffin.

[TonyMontana]

At least your team didn't draft Cody Zeller 4th overall.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif

[SpurrDurr]

At least your team didn't draft Cody Zeller 4th overall.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif

I was about to post the same thing here.

Seriously, this draft seems like one of the weakest so far.... Zeller at 4th :roll:

[DCL]

don't be mad at the cavs.

be excited that they have a great chance to get the #1 pick for the draft again next year.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Kiddlovesnets]

Its a good choice actually, to think that it will be Decision v2.0 with Irving in a few years, some things never change.

[senelcoolidge]

Cavs wanted desperately to trade that first pick. They couldn't and just said "fu#k it". Mike Brown liked Bennett they drafted him. Bennett looked shocked himself. Lots of pressure on that kid. Good luck to him. Bennett is a tweener. Not sure how he will pan out.

[NumberSix]

Calm down people. Nobody knows the future. Lottery picks are just guesses.

[GOBB]

Dont worry when the new season arrives you will be on the Anthony Bennett bandwagon hardcore.

[chips93]

cavs GM chris grant said today that bennett is a power forward, as in they arent gonna try turn him into a SF

[Jailblazers7]

Cavs can now play a really interesting small ball line-up.

[Joey3000]

lol Bennett is already out of shape and he is a rookie. lol dude is gunna be fat as hell on that bench.

Shoulda taken Noel. I know his injury is a risk, but this is a gamble. Take the one with the most potential.

[Take Your Lumps]

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[PleezeBelieve]

Starting for the Cavs...

Kyrie 6'3
Waiters 6'4
No one
Bennett 6'6
Tristan 6'8


Welcome the Golden State Warriors of the Eastern Conference, folks. Whooopie!!

[Carbine]

Going to be funny if Bennett turns into an all-star and Noel a bench player.

[PleezeBelieve]

Going to be funny if Bennett turns into an all-star and Noel a bench player.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Pointguard]

He's a Baby Bron that will never mature into adolescent Lebron. But some Bron is better than no Bron, heck even bronchitis is better than no Bron.

[toneloc103]

Its a good choice actually, to think that it will be Decision v2.0 with Irving in a few years, some things never change.

A few years? try 5 sir. Kyrie can certainly leave, but it wont be for a while. Pleeze, come on dude. Step off the ledge. I have no problem with this pick. Dude can and will be a 3. He can score. While he is not a great defender, tell me what 3 outside of LBJ is? He will be fine. Lets let him play 1 game before the crap starts. i was totally against the Waiters pick last year. I wanted Barnes. I have no problem admitting I was wrong. We still need a rim defender though. We also still need some post scoring. Maybe we can sign Al Jeff, for the post work, but not sure who to get for the defense.

If you look at the Cavs last year, outside of Kyrie and Waiters at times, who could they count on to score? Already Bennett is an upgrade over Gee on the offensive end. TT is a garbage man, and Andy isnt a scorer either. Noel wouldnt have been either. Len is soft. Mclemore didnt fit a need. Porter would have been fine, but he has holes in his game too. Bottom line is no matter who the pick was, someone was gonna complain.

[kentatm]

PB is :mad: :mad: :mad:

:lol

[toneloc103]

Starting for the Cavs...

Kyrie 6'3
Waiters 6'4
No one
Bennett 6'6
Tristan 6'8


Welcome the Golden State Warriors of the Eastern Conference, folks. Whooopie!!

You claim to be a Cavs fan, and dont even know the lineup. If he would have gone with that lineup, which he wont, Gee would start at sf. You do remember we have Varejao right? If they were the Warriors of the East, which they arent, would that be a bad thing?

[PleezeBelieve]

You claim to be a Cavs fan, and dont even know the lineup. If he would have gone with that lineup, which he wont, Gee would start at sf. You do remember we have Varejao right? If they were the Warriors of the East, which they arent, would that be a bad thing?
Gee = no one

And Bennett is a small forward. Why do you think otherwise?

[PJR]

If the Cavs wanted a non defending tweener forward, they could have just traded for Derrick Williams or Michael Beasley. :oldlol:

[RedBlackAttack]

Gee = no one

And Bennett is a small forward. Why do you think otherwise?
Grant said in his presser last night Bennett is a power forward, who can play small forward in spots. The franchise was obviously going for the best player available regardless of position. They felt Bennett was the best guy there. I didn't personally agree, but I can live with it. I was deathly afraid it would be either Len or a guard. I wanted Noel and I could live with Porter or Bennett.

Grant has also been very good at evaluating talent since he came here, so I'll defer to him on this one. The kid obviously has a lot of upside. He's a talented offensive player. Now, defensively? Mike Brown has his work cut out for him.

[KyrieTheFuture]

The only thing I can think of here is that the Cavs are drafting for people who they think can score without the benefit of plays/good coaching because they know Mike Brown can't do that. He won't draw up a system that maximizes players offensive abilities, especially if they're limited. What he can do is draw up a defense to mask players who are bad at it which is what we need for pretty much everyone on our team. Hopefully we can scrape a top 15/top 10 D together somehow and I think the offense will take care of itself.

[DukeDelonte13]

The only thing I can think of here is that the Cavs are drafting for people who they think can score without the benefit of plays/good coaching because they know Mike Brown can't do that. He won't draw up a system that maximizes players offensive abilities, especially if they're limited. What he can do is draw up a defense to mask players who are bad at it which is what we need for pretty much everyone on our team. Hopefully we can scrape a top 15/top 10 D together somehow and I think the offense will take care of itself.


The offense certainly will now that the cavs have 3 guys that can create for themselves. Those same three guys can spot up as well.

[toneloc103]

Grant said in his presser last night Bennett is a power forward, who can play small forward in spots. The franchise was obviously going for the best player available regardless of position. They felt Bennett was the best guy there. I didn't personally agree, but I can live with it. I was deathly afraid it would be either Len or a guard. I wanted Noel and I could live with Porter or Bennett.

Grant has also been very good at evaluating talent since he came here, so I'll defer to him on this one. The kid obviously has a lot of upside. He's a talented offensive player. Now, defensively? Mike Brown has his work cut out for him.


RBA I feel you, but didnt people say the same thing about Waiters last year? He never turned up defensively, but he wasnt an embarrasment as far as i can remember. I was curious about that Grant statement. in my opinion, he is a SF, not even a tweener. Isnt LBJ 6'8"? Isnt Melo? Isnt Jeff Green? I dont understand what the problem with him being the SF is. Maybe he will be a milsap -type..

[PleezeBelieve]

http://www.hulkshare.com/fssbno9g6cjk

[PleezeBelieve]

6500+ views on my opinion.

And ya'll doubt who I am? :cheers:


"I ain't asked for this
But when you keep doing dumb sh!t
This the answer you get!!"

[JtotheIzzo]

semi-annual reminder bump

[Meticode]

semi-annual reminder bump
I'm not sure why you waste the energy on him.

[DukeDelonte13]

A couple of interesting things have surfaced since draft night:

[East_Stone_Ya]

[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]A couple of interesting things have surfaced since draft night:

[PleezeBelieve]

This thread has nearly 8000 views off one of my comments.

Yes, a single comment. :eek:

Reminds me of my retirement thread years back that a hatin-ass MOD deleted because it was too big... bigger than the board. Nearly 21,000 views in FIVE DAYS.

I am amazing.

[kurple]

Why didnt you retire?

[HEAT111]

This thread has nearly 8000 views off one of my comments.

Yes, a single comment. :eek:

Reminds me of my retirement thread years back that a hatin-ass MOD deleted because it was too big... bigger than the board. Nearly 21,000 views in FIVE DAYS.

I am amazing.


Pleeze Believe in your retirement.

[PleezeBelieve]

Why would I retire when I am a walking, breathing Legend?

What I say matters. People genuinely find me captivating.

Fukk retiring. Bump more of my classic threads like this one.

[DukeDelonte13]

Why would I retire when I am a walking, breathing Legend?

What I say matters. People genuinely find me captivating.

Fukk retiring. Bump more of my classic threads like this one.


Silk and TonyMontana wish they could reach PB's level.

[NumberSix]

Cavs > dog-shit..... But only slightly.

[MP.Trey]

has there been a number 1 draft pick that didn't start in his rookie season?
I'm curious
2007: Greg Oden but that's not really fair.
2001: Kwame Brown only started 3 games his rookie season, 20 the next.
1977: Kent Benson. Can't find specific start stats but only played 18.7 mpg his first season and 26.0 his second.
1972: LaRue Martin played 4 full seasons never averaging more than 17 mpg.

I'm sure there is some back in the 50's and 60's but that's as far as I bothered to go researching. I'm a big Bennet fan but that's not a good track record lol.

[DukeDelonte13]

2007: Greg Oden but that's not really fair.
2001: Kwame Brown only started 3 games his rookie season, 20 the next.
1977: Kent Benson. Can't find specific start stats but only played 18.7 mpg his first season and 26.0 his second.
1972: LaRue Martin played 4 full seasons never averaging more than 17 mpg.

I'm sure there is some back in the 50's and 60's but that's as far as I bothered to go researching. I'm a big Bennet fan but that's not a good track record lol.


he's not going into a situation where the cavs aren't relying on him to do big things, plus Tristan Thompson.

Orl, Wash, Phx, Charlotte all would have probably had him starting.

[East_Stone_Ya]

2007: Greg Oden but that's not really fair.
2001: Kwame Brown only started 3 games his rookie season, 20 the next.
1977: Kent Benson. Can't find specific start stats but only played 18.7 mpg his first season and 26.0 his second.
1972: LaRue Martin played 4 full seasons never averaging more than 17 mpg.

I'm sure there is some back in the 50's and 60's but that's as far as I bothered to go researching. I'm a big Bennet fan but that's not a good track record lol.

thanks for the research :applause:

[Kblaze8855]

1977: Kent Benson. Can't find specific start stats but only played 18.7 mpg his first season and 26.0 his second.


He elbowed Kareem 2 minutes into his first NBA game then Kareem punched him...breaking Bensons Jaw and Kareems hand. I suspect he started since it was literally 2 minutes into the game so he must have started as a rookie. Then Kareem broke his face.

Just a little trivia for you.

[Legends66NBA7]

He elbowed Kareem 2 minutes into his first NBA game then Kareem punched him...breaking Bensons Jaw and Kareems hand. I suspect he started since it was literally 2 minutes into the game so he must have started as a rookie. Then Kareem broke his face.

Just a little trivia for you.

Do you know why Kareem wasn't an all-star in 1977-78 ? Was it because of injuries early on that kept him out of the voting ?

[kshutts1]

He elbowed Kareem 2 minutes into his first NBA game then Kareem punched him...breaking Bensons Jaw and Kareems hand. I suspect he started since it was literally 2 minutes into the game so he must have started as a rookie. Then Kareem broke his face.

Just a little trivia for you.
I knew I recognized the name Kent Benson.