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It's A VC3!!!
06-29-2013, 03:00 PM
I've heard some posters, primarily Laker fans suggest that what the Nets are doing is going to fail like it did for the Lakers. First, let's clear some major disparities between the two.

1) Dwight Howard, the second best player didn't start playing until half way into the year. He missed training camp and was essentially thrown into the fire. All of our players are coming in healthy

2) Steve Nash was injured on and off during the entire year.

3) Mike Dantoni benched Pau for various reasons rather then to work with what he has.

4) We don't have ANY cry babies similar to Dwight's level. Pierce and KG WANT to be here which is why KG broke his no-trade clause to join a division rival.

5) The Nets do not have any cocky egotistical players such as Kobe. Not even on the same galaxy in that regard.

So, with all these differences, how can we even be compared to the Lakers? The Lakers were doomed from the beginning. Nash was non-existant due to Kobe never passing, Dwight was injured and Pau lost all confidence.

Kiddlovesnets
06-29-2013, 03:03 PM
Tbh I aint buying any comments about the Nets until the FA signings are all completed. Lets face it, the Celtics did not build a champion team just with their two trades that brought them Allen and KG. Nor did the Lakers destroy their team with the trade that got them Dwight. Reality is, the Celtics somehow managed to build a roster with top 5 bench in the league even with big three, while the Lakers bench are clearly NBDL caliber. People easily forget the impact of quality FA signings.

Bibby4Three
06-29-2013, 03:03 PM
5 ball hogs and 1 basketball. enough said.

Johnny Jones
06-29-2013, 03:03 PM
5 ball hogs and 1 basketball. enough said.
This.

DaSeba5
06-29-2013, 03:04 PM
Everyone said the Heat fans are scared when LA formed their "super team." I haven't seen anyone say that for the Nets yet.

niko
06-29-2013, 03:05 PM
The Lakers main problem was that they were old and slow. The other stuff was ancilliary, the base problem was that they relied too much on old players who couldn't keep up with other teams. The Nets have some similar issues, you need to see how they address them.

Kiddlovesnets
06-29-2013, 03:06 PM
5 ball hogs and 1 basketball. enough said.

Wonder how Miami made it work?
:rolleyes:

SpecialQue
06-29-2013, 03:07 PM
I've heard some posters, primarily Laker fans suggest that what the Nets are doing is going to fail like it did for the Lakers. First, let's clear some major disparities between the two.

1) Dwight Howard, the second best player didn't start playing until half way into the year. He missed training camp and was essentially thrown into the fire. All of our players are coming in healthy

2) Steve Nash was injured on and off during the entire year.

3) Mike Dantoni benched Pau for various reasons rather then to work with what he has.

4) We don't have ANY cry babies similar to Dwight's level. Pierce and KG WANT to be here which is why KG broke his no-trade clause to join a division rival.

5) The Nets do not have any cocky egotistical players such as Kobe. Not even on the same galaxy in that regard.

So, with all these differences, how can we even be compared to the Lakers? The Lakers were doomed from the beginning. Nash was non-existant due to Kobe never passing, Dwight was injured and Pau lost all confidence.

Wow.

DaSeba5
06-29-2013, 03:07 PM
5 ball hogs and 1 basketball. enough said.

I don't see that being a problem if Pierce doesn't hog the ball. They can work as spot up shooters for D-Will.

Kiddlovesnets
06-29-2013, 03:07 PM
Wow.

You know its true though, sucks for Nash.
:cry:

It's A VC3!!!
06-29-2013, 03:10 PM
The Lakers main problem was that they were old and slow. The other stuff was ancilliary, the base problem was that they relied too much on old players who couldn't keep up with other teams. The Nets have some similar issues, you need to see how they address them.
we have 2 players old and slow. paul and kg. lakers had 2 also but the difference is that kobe and nash were expected to carry the majority of the weight. kg and paul under no circumstances will they carry as much weight as they did in boston or in any years of their careers. kg will just defend, rebound and run a p&r. if kg wanted to boost his stats, he would have stayed with boston or asked to go to a lottery team. he wants to win. yes, we have two very old players and 2 of our starters under 30 and joe is 32 but he will be 38 and give you 15 ppg because all he does is shoot. the lakers had about 10 other problems other then age. coaching, attitude, benching, confidence and a few others. we don't and hopefully won't.

tpols
06-29-2013, 03:10 PM
5 ball hogs and 1 basketball. enough said.
No more avery Johnson who has no idea how to run an offense.. Only defense. And no more pj who pretty much just placated the superstars.

Kidd is all about ball movement and knows offense..

KG is not a ball hog. He's actually a great passer

Brook Lopez isn't even close to a ball hog.. Primarily a finisher and mid/close range shooter.

Pierce can be a ball stopper but in his old age and with deron handling he won't have tons of opportunity.

JJ is going to be spot up shooting like he did in Phoenix.. Iso Joe will be nipped in the bud with all the offensive talent they have.

And deron will handle the ball the most even though he is good at running around screens and freeing himself off the ball

SpecialQue
06-29-2013, 03:11 PM
You know its true though, sucks for Nash.
:cry:

I keep forgetting that people here ignore what actually happened and just stick with their own biases and bullshit.

In case you forgot...Kobe started OVER-passing. He racked more more assists than Nash because he was doing his alpha-dog "I'm better than you" crap.

It's A VC3!!!
06-29-2013, 03:11 PM
I keep forgetting that people here ignore what actually happened and just stick with their own biases and bullshit.

In case you forgot...Kobe started OVER-passing. He racked more more assists than Nash because he was doing his alpha-dog "I'm better than you" crap.
that was slightly after all-star break where he went into magic mode. what about the first half of the season?:facepalm

tpols
06-29-2013, 03:13 PM
The Lakers main problem was that they were old and slow. The other stuff was ancilliary, the base problem was that they relied too much on old players who couldn't keep up with other teams. The Nets have some similar issues, you need to see how they address them.
And they had a terrible defensive coach + a whiny center who was fifty fifty on the effort he would give you night in and night out.
Nets just added KG who will always give max effort on D and anchor/communicate much better

TrueRob
06-29-2013, 03:14 PM
The Nets are going to have great floor spacing with all the shooting on the floor.

Deron Williams: 3-point threat
Joe Johnson: 3-point threat
Paul Pierce: 3-point threat
KG: mid-range threat

Deron can break down the defense and kick out to shooters. The Nets should be really good assuming they stay healthy.

ispin69
06-29-2013, 03:15 PM
2) Steve Nash was injured on and off during the entire year.

KG and Pierce can't get injured on and off all year? They're both one small injury from retiring.

Uncle Drew
06-29-2013, 03:15 PM
I'm liking the Nets transition offense. Fast break points everywhere.

Kiddlovesnets
06-29-2013, 03:16 PM
Also lets not forget that the Lakers were 28-12 after starting 17-25. The four games sweep by the Spurs was frustrating for them, but its still unwise to take away the credits they deserve for the last half of the season.

D12"Magic"
06-29-2013, 03:16 PM
I'm liking the Nets transition offense. Fast break points everywhere.
:lol
Their Half-court game is gonna be amazing though

PickernRoller
06-29-2013, 03:19 PM
that was slightly after all-star break where he went into magic mode. what about the first half of the season?:facepalm

What about it? He had a better first half than second half this season.

It's A VC3!!!
06-29-2013, 03:19 PM
The Nets are going to have great floor spacing with all the shooting on the floor.

Deron Williams: 3-point threat
Joe Johnson: 3-point threat
Paul Pierce: 3-point threat
KG: mid-range threat

Deron can break down the defense and kick out to shooters. The Nets should be really good assuming they stay healthy.

Geez, imagine opposing coaches during the scouting report. What do you do? you can't double. i cannot wait until the season starts.

TonyMontana
06-29-2013, 03:26 PM
Deron Williams > Nash. Nash is small and old, and I think overrated all time. He was great on Phoenix where the offense was entirely catered to his strengths, but he never played on that level anywhere else.

Joe Johnson > Kobe. He is a better shooter than Kobe and better at playing off ball. Hopefully BRK features Lopez more as the primary scorer so that Johnson doesn't have to create for his own. Also younger

Paul Pierce > Metta World Peace. lol

KG > Gasol. At least in how Gasol was used. KG was still a top ten player in the NBA last year. Hopefully he can conserve himself now that there are 5 high profile players on the team.

Lopez < Dwight. Dwight is way better, but Lopez is really good offensively.

Other than the bigmen, this BRK team is way better in the backcourt. And their bigmen are pretty good to start with too with KG/Lopez.

I predict them losing in the 2nd round, much better than the 7th seed first round sweep for LA.

tpols
06-29-2013, 03:27 PM
The Nets are going to have great floor spacing with all the shooting on the floor.

Deron Williams: 3-point threat
Joe Johnson: 3-point threat
Paul Pierce: 3-point threat
KG: mid-range threat

Deron can break down the defense and kick out to shooters. The Nets should be really good assuming they stay healthy.
Biggest problem is brook lopez is also more comfortable shooting 15 or so feet away than banging down low in the paint. On a lot of his post ups he gets pushed out and ends up starting 15+ feet from the hoop.

They're going to be very crowded on the perimeter with little inside presence

1~Gibson~1
06-29-2013, 03:42 PM
5 ball hogs and 1 basketball. enough said.Deron Williams is a point guard. Not sure if I would call him a point guard.

With D Will at point Joe Johnson and Paul Pierce will feed off of one another coming off of the wings.

Brook Lopez and Kevin Garnett will be asked to play back to basket every now and then but for the most part just play solid D and rebound the basket.

Jason Terry off the bench has another shot at winning 6th man of the year........ okay maybe not, but he's still a damn good 6th man. I expect them to it to the second round at worst. And I think they get all the way to the Eastern Conference Finals and play against Indiana/Miami depending on how the rest of the teams do.

1~Gibson~1
06-29-2013, 03:47 PM
Biggest problem is brook lopez is also more comfortable shooting 15 or so feet away than banging down low in the paint. On a lot of his post ups he gets pushed out and ends up starting 15+ feet from the hoop.

They're going to be very crowded on the perimeter with little inside presenceWell its not like the players are only limited to shooting jumpshots. On offense once Deron/Johnson/Pierce penetrates, KG/Lopez should come running from the weakside or crashing into the lane for an easy layup or close up shot.

This team should see a lot of open looks/jumpshots but if those don't fall they should be able to score points in the paint easily with the way this team Is put together.

The JKidd Kid
06-29-2013, 04:04 PM
Biggest problem is brook lopez is also more comfortable shooting 15 or so feet away than banging down low in the paint. On a lot of his post ups he gets pushed out and ends up starting 15+ feet from the hoop.

They're going to be very crowded on the perimeter with little inside presence

Did you actually watch games?!?! Lopez took less than 100 mid-range jumpers the ENTIRE season. Lopez was allways in the paint and KG can get in the paint too. No inside presence?:lol

PJR
06-29-2013, 04:07 PM
This Nets team transition D is going to flat out suck. They have no athletes.

It's A VC3!!!
06-29-2013, 04:12 PM
This Nets team transition D is going to flat out suck. They have no athletes.
good thing they wont be missing a lot of shots then.:lol

HomieWeMajor
12-26-2013, 10:22 AM
good thing they wont be missing a lot of shots then.:lol
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R.I.P.
12-26-2013, 10:24 AM
Seems he was right. Did he specify whether they

RRR3
12-26-2013, 11:36 AM
OP was right. They make the 13 Lakers look the 96 Bulls.

imdaman99
12-26-2013, 11:40 AM
this delusional douche makes us Knicks fans likeable.