The #1 Pick in 2014 will be Julius Randle, NOT Wiggins

[LosBulls]

Bookmark this thread. Wiggins is a good player and he has all-star written all over him but whenever he has matched up against Julius Randle or Jabari Parker they have gotten the upper hand on him.

All you have to do is watch the HighSchool All Star Games, the McDonalds All-Americans, ect.

Julius Randle is guaranteed to be a household name soon. Infact if the college rule wasn't there, he could of come in straight out of HighSchool and be a starter at the NBA level just due to his size and skillset.

Great motor,Excellent rebounder, Can finish with both hands, Solid NBA Body, 7 foot wingspan, can spread the floor all the way out to the 3 point line.

Expect to see this face a lot very soon, you can also expect alot of 20/20 games from him in his prime.

http://images.maxpreps.com/site_images/editorial/article/a/7/1/a71635dc-4633-4260-839b-fdc8d5c2dee2/c499607d-27b1-e111-8395-002655e6c45a_original.jpg

[PleezeBelieve]

5-star thread.

Perfect thread. You are absolutely right.

[PleezeBelieve]

Bookmark this thread. Wiggins is a good player and he has all-star written all over him but whenever he has matched up against Julius Randle or Jabari Parker they have gotten the upper hand on him.

All you have to do is watch the HighSchool All Star Games, the McDonalds All-Americans, ect.

Julius Randle is guaranteed to be a household name soon. Infact if the college rule wasn't there, he could of come in straight out of HighSchool and be a starter at the NBA level just due to his size and skillset.

Great motor,Excellent rebounder, Can finish with both hands, Solid NBA Body, 7 foot wingspan, can spread the floor all the way out to the 3 point line.

Expect to see this face a lot very soon, you can also expect alot of 20/20 games from him in his prime.

http://images.maxpreps.com/site_images/editorial/article/a/7/1/a71635dc-4633-4260-839b-fdc8d5c2dee2/c499607d-27b1-e111-8395-002655e6c45a_original.jpg
Randle >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anthony Bennett

[dbk123]

Actually, they went head to head twice. And Wiggins owned him both times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpwWYw7lvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA8SdrRo-k8

[LosBulls]

Actually, they went head to head twice. And Wiggins owned him both times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpwWYw7lvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA8SdrRo-k8
I wouldn't consider any of those games "owning". Randle fouled out in the first game and even with Randle out Wiggins' team only won by 1 point.

[dbk123]

I wouldn't consider any of those games "owning". Randle fouled out in the first game and even with Randle out Wiggins' team only won by 1 point.
well i wouldnt consider any of these games showing "Julius having the upperhand against wiggins":lol

[Twiens]

Actually, they went head to head twice. And Wiggins owned him both times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpwWYw7lvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA8SdrRo-k8

BOOM.


Using all-star games as comparison :facepalm

[WayOfWade]

Jabari Parker!

[LosBulls]

BOOM.


Using all-star games as comparison :facepalm
Highschool AllStar games aren't the same as NBA All-Star games, there are scouts watching and the outcome of these games affect your ranking unlike NBA All-Star games that mean nothing.

Nice way of showing how you pin an opinion on something you know nothing about. :facepalm

[dbk123]

Highschool AllStar games aren't the same as NBA All-Star games, there are scouts watching and the outcome of these games affect your ranking unlike NBA All-Star games that mean nothing.

Nice way of showing how you pin an opinion on something you know nothing about. :facepalm
you are retarded. Wiggins and Randle were on the SAME team in the all star games.
So tell me, where did you see Randle having the upperhand during a match up with wiggins?

[LosBulls]

you are retarded. Wiggins and Randle were on the SAME team in the all star games.
So tell me, where did you see Randle having the upperhand during a match up with wiggins?
Randle got the MVP, Wiggins didn't.

[dbk123]

Randle got the MVP, Wiggins didn't.
That doesnt answer the question.

[D-Rose]

Randle got the MVP, Wiggins didn't.
This is the biggest load of horse shit I've ever read. Reminds me of Wade getting MVP over LBJ in the ASG at Cowboy Stadium and people actually making a deal about it.

[noob cake]

Did Jabari Parker die or something?

[Johnny Jones]

Did Jabari Parker die or something?
Duke curse.

[travelingman]

Randle got the MVP, Wiggins didn't.

In the Jordan Brand Classic, they had nearly identical stat lines:

Wiggins: 19 points, 5 rebounds, 1 block, 1 steal, 2 turnovers, 1 assist

Randle: 19 points, 7 rebounds, 1 steal, 3 turnovers

and their stat lines in the MAA game were also very similar.

So what exactly does Randle have on Wiggins?

[tikay0]

LosBulls, proving once again why he's the worst poster on ISH. :facepalm

[Twiens]

Highschool AllStar games aren't the same as NBA All-Star games, there are scouts watching and the outcome of these games affect your ranking unlike NBA All-Star games that mean nothing.

Nice way of showing how you pin an opinion on something you know nothing about. :facepalm

Have you even seen Wiggins break a sweat in an all-star game? He doesn't give a ****, he already knows no one in high school can touch him.

[PleezeBelieve]

It's very obvious that Randle will be a better than Wiggins. That may show itself as soon as next year in college.

Wiggings has limited handle, average jumpsuit and passing skills. He has a good athleticism and length but Ranfle has all that plus premier power + motor combination.

[IGotACoolStory]

Wiggins barely gives any effort in those games. He has a tendency to do that in meaningless events which is why some scouts have questioned his motor/alpha mentality in the past. I have seen him turn it on in AAU tournaments and he wasn't close to that level in the allstar games. He can take over games (particularly on defense) and has done so against the best competition. Actually, the best example of this was against Julius Randle in the semis of the Peach Jam. Completely took it to another level in the second half+OT and played some incredible defense on a guy who outweighs him by, probably, 30 pounds.

Anyway, my scouting on Randle...
-Randle plays below the rim for the most part. Mainly in traffic.
-He overpowers high school kids, as he's built like an NBA player while the majority of his competition is built like... Hmm, high school kids...
-Randle's mindset is too perimeter oriented right now. And supposedly his attitude isn't great either. His on court demeanor is appalling, or was last spring.
-He basically has one move that is extremely effective. He puts his head down and then goes straight to the rim (a la Lance Stephenson in high school) and he often spins when he meets a defender. While extremely effective, it's also extremely predictable. I feel like I keep posting this, but I have seen Randle foul out of games with almost all offensive fouls. There was a game on ESPNU against E1T1 where that happened. Not sure why he kept doing the same thing after the second and third charge call.
-And if he doesn't get called for the charge, he ends up turning it over. A lot.
-Which is a problem because as a PF, he also is only effective with the ball in his hands at this moment. That combines with the perimeter oriented game comment.

Mainly, though, what to watch for as an NBA prospect are: he overpowers high school kids (he won't have anywhere near that advantage in the NBA), the combination of a questionable attitude with a less than ideal concept of the direction of his game, and that he plays below the rim.

I've used this comparison before and I still like it. He's a below the rim Josh Smith, with less athletic gifts = less defensive prowess.

Don't get me wrong, as I realize that reads negatively. Randle should go top 4-5 and he will be a beast in his one college season. Mostly because college kids are normally built like high school/college kids and he is a prefect fit for Cal's dribble drive. It's as an NBA prospect where I believe his ceiling is a bit limited. However, if he decides to play in the paint more, he could be something like ZBo on speed. Not nearly as skilled.

[PleezeBelieve]

Wiggins barely gives any effort in those games. He has a tendency to do that in meaningless events which is why some scouts have questioned his motor/alpha mentality in the past. I have seen him turn it on in AAU tournaments and he wasn't close to that level in the allstar games. He can take over games (particularly on defense) and has done so against the best competition. Actually, the best example of this was against Julius Randle in the semis of the Peach Jam. Completely took it to another level in the second half+OT and played some incredible defense on a guy who outweighs him by, probably, 30 pounds.

Anyway, my scouting on Randle...
-Randle plays below the rim for the most part. Mainly in traffic.
-He overpowers high school kids, as he's built like an NBA player while the majority of his competition is built like... Hmm, high school kids...
-Randle's mindset is too perimeter oriented right now. And supposedly his attitude isn't great either. His on court demeanor is appalling, or was last spring.
-He basically has one move that is extremely effective. He puts his head down and then goes straight to the rim (a la Lance Stephenson in high school) and he often spins when he meets a defender. While extremely effective, it's also extremely predictable. I feel like I keep posting this, but I have seen Randle foul out of games with almost all offensive fouls. There was a game on ESPNU against E1T1 where that happened. Not sure why he kept doing the same thing after the second and third charge call.
-And if he doesn't get called for the charge, he ends up turning it over. A lot.
-Which is a problem because as a PF, he also is only effective with the ball in his hands at this moment. That combines with the perimeter oriented game comment.

Mainly, though, what to watch for as an NBA prospect are: he overpowers high school kids (he won't have anywhere near that advantage in the NBA), the combination of a questionable attitude with a less than ideal concept of the direction of his game, and that he plays below the rim.

I've used this comparison before and I still like it. He's a below the rim Josh Smith, with less athletic gifts = less defensive prowess.

Don't get me wrong, as I realize that reads negatively. Randle should go top 4-5 and he will be a beast in his one college season. Mostly because college kids are normally built like high school/college kids and he is a prefect fit for Cal's dribble drive. It's as an NBA prospect where I believe his ceiling is a bit limited. However, if he decides to play in the paint more, he could be something like ZBo on speed. Not nearly as skilled.
Really the part I bolded is laugh out loud funny.

You have no clue.

[dbk123]

It's very obvious that Randle will be a better than Wiggins. That may show itself as soon as next year in college.

Wiggings has limited handle, average jumpsuit and passing skills. He has a good athleticism and length but Ranfle has all that plus premier power + motor combination.
:oldlol:

[IGotACoolStory]

Really the part I bolded is laugh out loud funny.

You have no clue.

Care to refute? Anyway, you are hyping Julius Randle and you bolded the positive part of my post about him.

[JtotheIzzo]

Actually, they went head to head twice. And Wiggins owned him both times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpwWYw7lvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA8SdrRo-k8

Zinger!

LOL, OP fails at life.

[k0kakw0rld]

In the Jordan Brand Classic, they had nearly identical stat lines:

Wiggins: 19 points, 5 rebounds, 1 block, 1 steal, 2 turnovers, 1 assist

Randle: 19 points, 7 rebounds, 1 steal, 3 turnovers

and their stat lines in the MAA game were also very similar.

So what exactly does Randle have on Wiggins?
So what exactly does Wiggins have on Randle?

[LosBulls]

So what exactly does Wiggins have on Randle?
This.

[Inferno]

Did Jabari Parker die or something?

This :lol

He's the most polished out all three.

[LosBulls]

This :lol

He's the most polished out all three.
I'm from Chicago, Randle>Jabari=Wiggins

Think of it as LeBron-Wade-Melo in 2003 (in terms of the gap between how good they are, not comparing them)

[veilside23]

what does wiggins have over randle DEFENSE ... igota cool story is correct... although he might improve his defense is shitty ...

he falls inlove with the 3 ala josh smith and sometimes he look like zbo ver2.0 but he has limited post moves ...

wiggins has weak handles? are you kidding me its not exceptional at all ...

imho if wiggins gives his best every ball game no one in this draft class will touch him.

[MMKM]

I feel like everyone underrates Randle as an athlete a little bit. He has some pretty nice dunks on YouTube, I definitely wouldn't call him a "below the rim" athlete. Saying he overpowers his opponents in high school....that's a good thing in my book. As a PF you need to have a great "ground game." If you can't bang for position as a PF you just end up getting punked like Blake griffin gets punked every time by zbo. So instead of calling randle a less athletic josh smith, why not compare him to a more athletic zbo

[DStebb716]

Zero chance. Even if Randle has a way better college season, there's no way anybody passes on the potential of Wiggins.

[MMKM]

Zero chance. Even if Randle has a way better college season, there's no way anybody passes on the potential of Wiggins.

So it sounds like we have our Lebron and Carmelo for 2014...who's gonna be next years Darko Milicic?

[Johnny Jones]

So it sounds like we have our Lebron and Carmelo for 2014...who's gonna be next years Darko Milicic?
Aaron Gordon

[MMKM]

Aaron Gordon

I don't think he'll go 2014

[Dave3]

Aaron Gordon
I don't see him becoming a Darko - he showed he has quite a motor in the all star game this year when he had something to prove. I think he has a solid career in the league. There's no telling how much skill he'll build over the next few years, but he has the work ethic and athleticism to be a good player.

[Dave3]

This.
1. Size - They're about the same height/length while being a swingman instead of power forward. Randle in shoes is 6'9 with a 6'11 wingspan. Wiggins is a swingman with a larger wingspan and is only 1 inch shorter. That right there is a huge advantage. It's easier being 6'8 and defended by players like Iguodala or Melo, than it is being 6'9 and defended by the opposing team's best defensive big man in the post.

2. Athleticism - like someone already said, Randle at the high school level is a below the rim player (compared to Wiggins or Gordon at least). Yeah he's got the strength to bully high school players in the post at 250, but even the strongest players in the NBA need size and length to play the way he bangs in the post. We don't know how strong Randle will be against players like Zach Randolph or Blake Griffin. As for Wiggins, it's not only clear he has quickness and speed at the NBA level, it's measurable how he stacks up in terms of vertical (44 inches) and size (6'8 with a 7' wingspan - that's Tmac size almost, and on the perimeter).

3. Game flow/court awareness - Wiggins is more able to do his work in the flow of the game than Randle. Randle when you watch him, he sometimes goes into black hole mode where everytime he touches the ball, it's not going to anyone else for any reason. His tendency to force things might alienate teammates, but also results in his getting swatted sometimes because the defense knows he's going to shoot no matter what.

4. Defense - Wiggins (for now) tries harder on defense and plays better. He's no stopper or anything, but he steps up to challenges.

5. Transition play - just the advantage of being a perimeter player vs. a post player.

[LosBulls]

1. Size - They're about the same height/length while being a swingman instead of power forward. Randle in shoes is 6'9 with a 6'11 wingspan. Wiggins is a swingman with a larger wingspan and is only 1 inch shorter. That right there is a huge advantage. It's easier being 6'8 and defended by players like Iguodala or Melo, than it is being 6'9 and defended by the opposing team's best defensive big man in the post.

2. Athleticism - like someone already said, Randle at the high school level is a below the rim player (compared to Wiggins or Gordon at least). Yeah he's got the strength to bully high school players in the post at 250, but even the strongest players in the NBA need size and length to play the way he bangs in the post. We don't know how strong Randle will be against players like Zach Randolph or Blake Griffin. As for Wiggins, it's not only clear he has quickness and speed at the NBA level, it's measurable how he stacks up in terms of vertical (44 inches) and size (6'8 with a 7' wingspan - that's Tmac size almost, and on the perimeter).

3. Game flow/court awareness - Wiggins is more able to do his work in the flow of the game than Randle. Randle when you watch him, he sometimes goes into black hole mode where everytime he touches the ball, it's not going to anyone else for any reason. His tendency to force things might alienate teammates, but also results in his getting swatted sometimes because the defense knows he's going to shoot no matter what.

4. Defense - Wiggins (for now) tries harder on defense and plays better. He's no stopper or anything, but he steps up to challenges.

5. Transition play - just the advantage of being a perimeter player vs. a post player.

1. You like to leave out how much they weigh. Randle has 50 pounds on Wiggins. Then you say Wiggins will be guarded by guards like Melo, okay but he will also be guarded by the defensive specialist on the team, guys like Butler,Paul George,LeBron ect. On the other hand, Randle is going to have a field day overpowering guys like Gasol,Amare,Bargnani,Boozer,Griffin ect.
He will draw double teams and he will create mismatches because people compare him to Zbo yet Randle is more athletic and has 3 point range.

2. Even the strongest players in the NBA need size and length? Ever heard of a guy named Charles Barkley? Size is overrated at the PF position and even then Randle is at a good size.

3. Its Highschool, most of the time players like Randle have reasons to hog the ball, would it be to show off or prove something or maybe he doesn't have trust in his highschool teammates but there is always valid reasons for superstar highschool players.

4. Randle is big and athletic, defense will come naturally.

5. Randle isn't a strict post player, its offensive to call him that.

[TheReturn]

1. You like to leave out how much they weigh. Randle has 50 pounds on Wiggins. Then you say Wiggins will be guarded by guards like Melo, okay but he will also be guarded by the defensive specialist on the team, guys like Butler,Paul George,LeBron ect. On the other hand, Randle is going to have a field day overpowering guys like Gasol,Amare,Bargnani,Boozer,Griffin ect.
He will draw double teams and he will create mismatches because people compare him to Zbo yet Randle is more athletic and has 3 point range.

2. Even the strongest players in the NBA need size and length? Ever heard of a guy named Charles Barkley? Size is overrated at the PF position and even then Randle is at a good size.

3. Its Highschool, most of the time players like Randle have reasons to hog the ball, would it be to show off or prove something or maybe he doesn't have trust in his highschool teammates but there is always valid reasons for superstar highschool players.

4. Randle is big and athletic, defense will come naturally.

5. Randle isn't a strict post player, its offensive to call him that.
:biggums:

[STATUTORY]

1. You like to leave out how much they weigh. Randle has 50 pounds on Wiggins. Then you say Wiggins will be guarded by guards like Melo, okay but he will also be guarded by the defensive specialist on the team, guys like Butler,Paul George,LeBron ect. On the other hand, Randle is going to have a field day overpowering guys like Gasol,Amare,Bargnani,Boozer,Griffin ect.
He will draw double teams and he will create mismatches because people compare him to Zbo yet Randle is more athletic and has 3 point range.

2. Even the strongest players in the NBA need size and length? Ever heard of a guy named Charles Barkley? Size is overrated at the PF position and even then Randle is at a good size.

3. Its Highschool, most of the time players like Randle have reasons to hog the ball, would it be to show off or prove something or maybe he doesn't have trust in his highschool teammates but there is always valid reasons for superstar highschool players.

4. Randle is big and athletic, defense will come naturally.

5. Randle isn't a strict post player, its offensive to call him that.

weight is not a plus when you are in high school. if that's your main attribute against other high schoolers then you have very limited upside.

charles barkley had insane athleticism, randle ain't no where near that.

randle is not big or athletic by nba standard.

Josh smith, beasley, and griffin are about where Randle's ceiling is at and chances are he will materialize to be worse than all 3, on par with beasley probably.

[Shade8780]

weight is not a plus when you are in high school. if that's your main attribute against other high schoolers then you have very limited upside.

charles barkley had insane athleticism, randle ain't no where near that.

randle is not big or athletic by nba standard.

Josh smith, beasley, and griffin are about where Randle's ceiling is at and chances are he will materialize to be worse than all 3, on par with beasley probably.
Beasley's as good as Griffin and JSmoove?! :wtf:

[iDunkOreo]

Beasley's as good as Griffin and JSmoove?! :wtf:
He could be if he wasn't and idiot, or high all the time.

But on topic, Parker will be the better of the 3. While he isn't the flashy athlete that Wiggins is, he isn't too shabby himself, plus he is lightyears ahead if him in terms of basketball IQ and skill. Not very often that a player with true point-forward potential comes out, and he has the potential to be a great one. I feel that if Wiggins underwhelms, and Parker, Randle, or Gordon even, ball out in college, he could lose that No. 1 pick status, even though it is unlikely.

[rhythmic]

Do you people ever consider defense, something Wiggins is really good at and can literally take over games defensively?

Kid is the best prospect since LeBron, just stop.
Randle and Jabari are great talent and the 2014 draft is very deep, but Wiggins will be the undisputed #1 pick.

[WolfGang]

None of you phags would be saying this if your team got the number one pick next year. You'd be ranting about getting Wiggins. Don't forget that they are power forwards while he is a small. Their roles will be different.

I will say this. If Wiggins fails to show people that he has the heart to be the star of the show then his stock will drop.

[veilside23]

:banghead: wiggins is not a power forward ...

[rhythmic]

None of you phags would be saying this if your team got the number one pick next year. You'd be ranting about getting Wiggins. Don't forget that they are power forwards while he is a small. Their roles will be different.

I will say this. If Wiggins fails to show people that he has the heart to be the star of the show then his stock will drop.

He's a 6'8 small forward.

[Maniak]

i've heard randle becomes too ball-dominant and thus turnover prone. never watched him much so i'm not going to pretend like im an expert like all the people in this thread.

we'll see how the college season goes. i honestly have major doubts in kentucky because i have no faith in either of the harrisons. andrew makes me think of a far less talented westbrook with a worse attitude.

[WhySoInsecure?]

Nothing like an undersized forward that can bully his way to the rim against high school kids.

[Dave3]

1. You like to leave out how much they weigh. Randle has 50 pounds on Wiggins. Then you say Wiggins will be guarded by guards like Melo, okay but he will also be guarded by the defensive specialist on the team, guys like Butler,Paul George,LeBron ect. On the other hand, Randle is going to have a field day overpowering guys like Gasol,Amare,Bargnani,Boozer,Griffin ect.
He will draw double teams and he will create mismatches because people compare him to Zbo yet Randle is more athletic and has 3 point range.

2. Even the strongest players in the NBA need size and length? Ever heard of a guy named Charles Barkley? Size is overrated at the PF position and even then Randle is at a good size.

3. Its Highschool, most of the time players like Randle have reasons to hog the ball, would it be to show off or prove something or maybe he doesn't have trust in his highschool teammates but there is always valid reasons for superstar highschool players.

4. Randle is big and athletic, defense will come naturally.

5. Randle isn't a strict post player, its offensive to call him that.
1. Because weight/strength is the one thing that every high schooler develops as they age. Not many (if any) get faster or quicker or jump higher, but all of them get stronger. McGrady came into the league about 190 (same as Wiggins), Kobe was scrawny, Durant was a stick, etc. etc. All those guys gained strength as they matured, Weight is much less of a commodity for young talents than length of athleticism, because weight can be gained and those things can't be.

Randle will overpower people sure, but he won't be close to the level of overpowering he can do in high school, whereas Wiggins' quickness will still be one of the quickest in the league.

2. Length is overrated? You're going to use an NBA legend that last played in the league over 15 years ago to prove a point? Exceptions don't prove points. The best players at their positions are usually a good size for the position, and for their respective positions, Wiggins is easily better than Randle.

3. Yet Wiggins is able to showcase his talent (everyone expects him to be top 1 or at worst top 3 draft pick in 2014) without playing like a black hole. Even Aaron Gordon and Jabari Parker mix it up throughout the game. Randle holds onto the ball way more than those guys.

4. And Wiggins is big and athletic and already plays defense. He gets no credit for that?

5. No one used the word strictly. The advantage still stands though that Wiggins is the much better open court player, regardless of which adjectives I used to make my point.

[Inferno]

Wow Parker's been forgotten here...

[WayOfWade]

Wow Parker's been forgotten here...
Yeah, I want him to do good, but since when has a Duke player gone on to have a truly "Great" NBA career? If I remember correctly, Shane Battier is only the second Duke player ever to get a ring. I hope Jabari can break the streak, but given Duke's history with players going pro, it doesn't bode well for him.

[Dave3]

Yeah, I want him to do good, but since when has a Duke player gone on to have a truly "Great" NBA career? If I remember correctly, Shane Battier is only the second Duke player ever to get a ring. I hope Jabari can break the streak, but given Duke's history with players going pro, it doesn't bode well for him.
Kyrie went to Duke. So did Boozer and Deng.

[WayOfWade]

Kyrie went to Duke. So did Boozer and Deng.
Alright, that's pretty good from Duke. Kyrie could become something great if he can get by his injuries. Boozer won't really amount to anything, but he's still decent. Deng... he's good, but will never be great.

[WhySoInsecure?]

Alright, that's pretty good from Duke. Kyrie could become something great if he can get by his injuries. Boozer won't really amount to anything, but he's still decent. Deng... he's good, but will never be great.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/grant_hill/career_stats.html
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/elton_brand/career_stats.html

[WayOfWade]

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/grant_hill/career_stats.html
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/elton_brand/career_stats.html
Yeah, these guys had potential. Grant was derailed by injuries, and Brand toiled away on teams that would never accomplish much. Wouldn't call either of them "Great."

[jzek]

Actually, they went head to head twice. And Wiggins owned him both times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYpwWYw7lvc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA8SdrRo-k8

These are high schoolers? What are they feeding kids these days?

[WhySoInsecure?]

These are high schoolers? What are they feeding kids these days? If you think that's bad, here's a bunch of 14 and 15 yr olds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugr6bGq6iXA

[Shade8780]

Randle has All-Star potential, but if he was just an inch or two taller, he'd be the next Chris Webber.

[LoneyROY7]

The 2014 draft is so stacked.

[Hizack]

Wrong.

[Black and White]

:oldlol:

[VIntageNOvel]

Lakers get the #1 with #7 :rockon:

but seriously lakers and celtic is two teams that you dont need to worry about whos theyre drafting, itve been proven