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Flagrant 2
07-01-2013, 07:55 PM
LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDBZr4ie2AE




http://i.imgur.com/BzIii8S.jpg

Flagrant 2
07-01-2013, 08:01 PM
http://www.cityofhawthorne.com/depts/police/contact.asp

https://www.facebook.com/hawthornepolice

Lieutenant Scott Swain: (310) 349-2835

kswain@cityofhawthorne.org

Human Resources: (310) 349-2950

Non Emergency: (310) 675-4443

StocktonFan
07-01-2013, 08:04 PM
Looked justified to me

Also to the OP, there is a difference between detainment and arrest, one insinuates enough probable evidence for conviction. Do you know what that video shows?

ace23
07-01-2013, 08:09 PM
Tyler, the Creator used to live there.

Pretty cool vid.

miller-time
07-01-2013, 08:43 PM
What was the guy doing in the first place is what I want to know. The dog is innocent in all of this, I think that is where the issue lies. But what was that guy trying to gain from filming the cops, he could have just gotten in his car and driven away.

bmulls
07-01-2013, 09:08 PM
What was the guy doing in the first place is what I want to know. The dog is innocent in all of this, I think that is where the issue lies. But what was that guy trying to gain from filming the cops, he could have just gotten in his car and driven away.

I didn't watch the video, I don't need to watch a dog get shot, but nobody should need a reason to film the police. They should be accountable at all times.

miller-time
07-01-2013, 09:16 PM
I didn't watch the video, I don't need to watch a dog get shot, but nobody should need a reason to film the police. They should be accountable at all times.

He was interacting with them too, other people were filming (such as the person filming the video we are watching) but they kept their distance. This guy was driving past and gets out of his car and starts filming and interacting with the cops. You can see the first part here (no dog shooting).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI&feature=player_detailpage#t=77s

OhNoTimNoSho
07-01-2013, 09:32 PM
The cop shooting the dog is just complete carelessness and indifference on this cops' part. That did not at all need to happen. He was just like **** it, I need to look tough.

9erempiree
07-01-2013, 09:40 PM
Police shouldn't be shooting at a dog.

Dog? Really?

Bandito
07-01-2013, 09:53 PM
The cop shooting the dog is just complete carelessness and indifference on this cops' part. That did not at all need to happen. He was just like **** it, I need to look tough.
he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.

Derka
07-01-2013, 09:58 PM
I'm as much an animal lover as anyone, but the officer's actions were entirely within reason. The owner is entirely at fault from what I'm looking at. The owner didn't properly secure the dog in the first place. Then the officer tried to get a handle on the dog's leash, attempted non-lethal force and then resorted to his sidearm when the dog continued being aggressive.

If it comes down to a dog's life or my well being, the dog goes down every single time...and I say this as a responsible dog owner myself who would be absolutely crushed to see my friend and companion die this needlessly. Hell, it hurts to see that video. All that being said, the officer is the absolute last person I blame here.

Calling this police officer a murderer, like some of these halfwits on Facebook are doing, is ridiculous.

miller-time
07-01-2013, 09:59 PM
he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.

Probably better to have the owner calm the dog down.

iamgine
07-01-2013, 10:03 PM
Blood of the dog is in the owner's hand. Didn't secure it properly.

Such a loyal dog too, which got it killed.

daily
07-01-2013, 10:09 PM
Never bring a Rottweiler to a gun fight.

I feel sorry for the dog but his owner is an idiot

9erempiree
07-01-2013, 10:17 PM
The police are a bunch of wimps. If you are trained to serve and protect the public and you are afraid of a dog?

The dog is not going to kill a grown ass man, who is trained, such as that police officer. You're going to tell me a trained man is afraid of a dog bite?

What kind of trained law enforcement is he to be afraid of a dog and a dog bite to have to pull out his gun. A dog is not a life and death situation.

:facepalm

Derka
07-01-2013, 10:20 PM
The police are a bunch of wimps. If you are trained to serve and protect the public and you are afraid of a dog?

The dog is not going to kill a grown ass man, who is trained, such as that police officer. You're going to tell me a trained man is afraid of a dog bite?

What kind of trained law enforcement is he to be afraid of a dog and a dog bite to have to pull out his gun. A dog is not a life and death situation.

:facepalm

:facepalm @ everything you just posted.

miller-time
07-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Never bring a Rottweiler to a gun fight.

I feel sorry for the dog but his owner is an idiot

Agreed. While I don't think the cops handled the situation the best, the owner brought a lot of it on himself (his detainment, not the shooting).

Sees a raid, oh I know what I will do I will start yelling to the cops about civil rights and racism!

9erempiree
07-01-2013, 10:26 PM
:facepalm @ everything you just posted.

Explain to me why the police is justified to shoot the dog? Was his life at stake?

Dog bite? Really?

Obviously you have never been bitten by a dog.

DropStep
07-01-2013, 10:26 PM
Hope the cop doesnt lose his job. Im sure people are calling for his head.

But its still ****ed up to kill a dog, even if it was being the aggressor. Im sure there is better way to deal with a ****ing dog trying to bite you. Being a cop is a thankless and high stress job.

OhNoTimNoSho
07-01-2013, 10:28 PM
he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.
The dog wasn't being that aggressive, it only snapped at him when he aggressively approached it.


Dont get me wrong, the owner practically caused everything himself. But still the cops should have had some concern for the innocent dog.

bmulls
07-01-2013, 10:29 PM
Explain to me why the police is justified to shoot the dog? Was his life at stake?

Dog bite? Really?

Obviously you have never been bitten by a dog.

Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.

PistonsFan#21
07-01-2013, 10:29 PM
he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.

thats so stupid. So cops can shoot and kill anything they are afraid of even if its not a threat to their life? great logic there buddy. hopefully you dont plan on becoming a cop. we dont need any more scums like that.

9erempiree
07-01-2013, 10:31 PM
Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.

Why are so obsessed with me? You are clearly upset with me.

http://youtu.be/xTVTfLfwrrw?t=49s

tpols
07-01-2013, 10:32 PM
Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.
If you watch the video.. its kind of fvcked up. Dog gets shot right in the chest and rolls around while its chest is opened up. Can see why p-eople think it looked cruel

daily
07-01-2013, 10:32 PM
Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.

awww dude why'd you have to go and tell him that?

9erempiree
07-01-2013, 10:32 PM
thats so stupid. So cops can shoot and kill anything they are afraid of even if its not a threat to their life? great logic there buddy. hopefully you dont plan on becoming a cop. we dont need any more scums like that.

Don't worry. He's probably a big reason why hookers should be on birth controls.

9erempiree
07-01-2013, 10:38 PM
How can you shoot these kind of dogs.

http://www.importrottweilers.com/images/forSale/pups_forSale.jpg

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-01-2013, 10:43 PM
This video tore me up. What a stupid ****ing cop.

Derka
07-01-2013, 10:43 PM
Explain to me why the police is justified to shoot the dog? Was his life at stake?

Dog bite? Really?

Obviously you have never been bitten by a dog.

Because their training doesn't say "Oh, take a chance that this dog won't bite you because he totally might not", you twit. Obviously you're a nincompoop if all you have to stand on is "His life wasn't in danger because dog bites aren't dangerous.".

First off, the officer has no way of gauging how dangerous that dog is about to become at a given moment. Also, not sure if you were paying attention but they were already focused on a stand-off situation with an active SWAT presence...this guy decided to not only make himself a distraction in an already tense situation, but he then failed to properly secure the animal he got involved in it as well. The video clear as day shows the officer try several times to restrain the animal without using force. You can quite clearly hear an attempt to taze it. The dog continues to get more aggressive after each attempt while the owner continues berating the police for doing, you know, their jobs. Dogs feed off their owner's aggressive behavior...just like that one was doing.

I ran a paper route at age 12 and volunteer at a local dog/cat rescue when I have time on weekends. I've been bitten by more dogs in one month than most people have scratched behind the ears in their lifetimes. I'm not thrilled that the dog got shot, but if I'm in that officer's shoes I do the exact same thing.

I'm not continuing this any further with you because your point of view is grounded on nothing that resembles reality.

Flagrant 2
07-01-2013, 10:44 PM
I knew ISH was full of morons but wow didn't realize it was this bad -- thanks to all the people that have brains and can think for themselves, help spread this video any way you can.

ALBballer
07-01-2013, 10:47 PM
So people are mad that the guy was filming the cops? Why shouldn't cops be filmed? They are public employees paid with taxpayer monies and you can't justify arresting someone for filming them. THis is your typical power trip by the police officer to show how big he is. And then killing the dog was the last straw for me.

Typical braindead meatheads joining the police force...

Scoooter
07-01-2013, 10:50 PM
The type of people that are attracted to the power of being a police officer are the last people who should have it. Most of the cops I've ever interacted with have been creeps.

ALBballer
07-01-2013, 11:14 PM
It's not illegal to film cops as long as you are not interfering in their duties.

edit:

i guess post was deleted.

PistonsFan#21
07-01-2013, 11:16 PM
StocktonFan felt like a dumbass and had to delete his post. Not its not illegal to film a police officer in California.

G-Funk
07-01-2013, 11:18 PM
thats my hood

StocktonFan
07-01-2013, 11:19 PM
Nope i guess not in Cali, but in 12 states it is.

G-Funk
07-01-2013, 11:22 PM
Stick to posting about Kobe in the NBA forum. At least people might think you're trolling. Right now you're proving you're not a troll, just a straight up dumbass.
what happens in the nba forum stays there, don't bring that shyt here

ballup
07-01-2013, 11:29 PM
Don't all officers have batons?

miller-time
07-01-2013, 11:37 PM
So people are mad that the guy was filming the cops? Why shouldn't cops be filmed? They are public employees paid with taxpayer monies and you can't justify arresting someone for filming them. THis is your typical power trip by the police officer to show how big he is. And then killing the dog was the last straw for me.

Typical braindead meatheads joining the police force...

The guy wasn't JUST filming the cops though was he. Dozens of people were filming the cops and weren't detained. Tell me what you think he did differently from the people that were filming him.

The cops handled this poorly, but that guy was a ****ing idiot. He couldn't have known it would end up the way it did, but he should be aware enough to know you don't insert yourself into a situation where there are half a dozen cop cars and an obvious arrest or raid going on.

StocktonFan
07-01-2013, 11:39 PM
You know you're in the hood when blacks all roll in to video tape a situation... MYOB assholes, and more often then not "worldstar" is yelled as if it's going to propel them into stardom.

but maybe that's the hope they need to get out of that shithole they call home.

miller-time
07-02-2013, 12:03 AM
How did he insert himself into the situation when he was 5 feet away from the cop cars, and a good distance from the cops?

You mean like when he is yelling out to the cops, and then puts the dog back in the car and walks towards them? Why did they come up to him and not one of the dozen other people? Consider him inserted...

Go to about 2 minutes, you can hear him yelling but not what he is saying. Video skips a bit forward at 2:03. Just before he puts the dog in the car you can hear him say "civil rights violation."

Watch the other video, before the first one. You see him driving past then get out of his car. Something happens, apparently but I'm not sure, he was told to turn his music down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI

miller-time
07-02-2013, 12:17 AM
So he's an annoying heckler. They had a much bigger problem at hand. 1:53 mark, they walked towards him first before he put his dog in the car. Not sure what the reason was when he was clearly filming like the rest of the people.

So they decided to put out their big guns because a heckler and his dog were annoying them. Weak ass cops!!!!!

Comedians >>> cops when dealing with hecklers.

Well...

http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/michael_richards.jpg

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 12:26 AM
He walked towards them because they were clearly coming over to talk to him or arrest him. What is he supposed to do? run away from them?. Basically all he did was call out the officers on being idiots - which they didn't like - they decided to illegally arrest him and then shoot his dog.

He should sue the department.

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 12:33 AM
he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.

Firing a shot into the air or in whatever safe direction would scare the dog away without even a semblance of a doubt.

9erempiree
07-02-2013, 12:36 AM
again,


He shot the a dog because he thought the dog was going to kill or threaten his life.

:facepalm

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 12:37 AM
again,


He shot the a dog because he thought the dog was going to kill or threaten his life.

:facepalm

Without giving the dog's owner who is standing next to him a chance to calm him down. :wtf:

9erempiree
07-02-2013, 12:42 AM
Without giving the dog's owner who is standing next to him a chance to calm him down. :wtf:

yep.

The dog charged and stopped to sniff the ground. That's not a threat. Then the trained man, who's suppose to fight crime, decides to provoke the dog because he was afraid to get bitten. All this while, there is a real threat behind him in that house.

:facepalm

daily
07-02-2013, 12:42 AM
The plot thickens, now we know why he was yelling out about his civil rights...

This isn't his first run in with Hawthorne police

July 28th 2012 he cites they beat him up during a domestic violence call, hauled him off to jail and beat him some more
July 29th 2011 he accuses them of racial profiling

http://www.scribd.com/doc/151225050/Rosby-Complaint

His facebook
https://www.facebook.com/leon.rosby

Sorry this guy just looks like an asshole looking for trouble

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 12:44 AM
The plot thickens, now we know why he was yelling out about his civil rights...

This isn't his first run in with Hawthorne police

July 28th 2012 he cites they beat him up during a domestic violence callhauled him offto jail and beat him some more
July 29th 2011 he accuses them of racial profiling

http://www.scribd.com/doc/151225050/Rosby-Complaint

His facebook
https://www.facebook.com/leon.rosby

Sorry this guy just looks like an asshole looking for trouble

So he has a history of being victimized by the police?

StocktonFan
07-02-2013, 12:46 AM
So he has a history of being victimized by the police?

Oh, so you're taking his word 100% i see, hopefully he doesn't say gravity doesnt exist.

daily
07-02-2013, 12:47 AM
So he has a history of being victimized by the police? It would seem he's no stranger to handcuffs

9erempiree
07-02-2013, 12:50 AM
Oh, so you're taking his word 100% i see, hopefully he doesn't say gravity doesnt exist.

what you fail to see is that Californians were born and raised victimized by the police. Corrupt police officers have existed our entire lives. A generation have gone through this crap. The police has too much power and give them a gun and that is dangerous.

Hawthorne is in L.A. county, the same county where police officers were shooting innocent people because they thought we were Christopher Dorn.

StocktonFan
07-02-2013, 12:54 AM
what you fail to see is that Californians were born and raised victimized by the police.

Hawthorne is in L.A. county, the same county where police officers were shooting innocent people because they thought we were Christopher Dorn.

Yes i've lived in city terrace, Los angeles... tell me something i don't know *****. Just because there are bad apples doesn't mean everyone's bad. Neither you or I know the full story, so keep your mouth shut or stop running it as if you know the complete situation.

From the facebook page someone posted, this guy sounds like an asshole. What is a ****ing fact is that he has been charged with Domestic violence, that alone that guy loses all ****ing respect and benefit of the doubt from me [not that it matters].

So if you ask me, they should have shot and killed him instead.

daily
07-02-2013, 12:54 AM
what you fail to see is that Californians were born and raised victimized by the police. Corrupt police officers have existed our entire lives. A generation have gone through this crap. The police has too much power and give them a gun and that is dangerous.

Hawthorne is in L.A. county, the same county where police officers were shooting innocent people because they thought we were Christopher Dorn.:roll: :roll: :roll:

miller-time
07-02-2013, 12:55 AM
It would seem he's no stranger to handcuffs

He definitely seemed quite ready and almost willing to have them slapped on him.

He was also asking the cops why there were no black officers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/01/police-shoot-dog_n_3530990.html

HardwoodLegend
07-02-2013, 12:55 AM
You know you're in the hood when blacks all roll in to video tape a situation... MYOB assholes, and more often then not "worldstar" is yelled as if it's going to propel them into stardom.

but maybe that's the hope they need to get out of that shithole they call home.

Sounds like you just have an unshakable disdain for the inner city and would find a way to justify any type of behavior the police display there no matter what they do.

What are your thoughts on the Trayvon Martin case, btw?

StocktonFan
07-02-2013, 12:58 AM
Sounds like you just have an unshakable disdain for the inner city and would find a way to justify any type of behavior the police display there no matter what they do.

What are your thoughts on the Trayvon Martin case, btw?

What i sound like is someone who lives by "mind your own business" the same people that also made "if you go looking for trouble you're going to get it".

daily
07-02-2013, 12:58 AM
He definitely seemed quite ready and almost willing to have them slapped on him.

In July again...lol Bad month for Leon, his attorney is probably not real happy with him tonight, probably just blew up his lawsuit with today's actions

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 01:04 AM
Yes i've lived in city terrace, Los angeles... tell me something i don't know *****. Just because there are bad apples doesn't mean everyone's bad. Neither you or I know the full story, so keep your mouth shut or stop running it as if you know the complete situation.

From the facebook page someone posted, this guy sounds like an asshole. What is a ****ing fact is that he has been charged with Domestic violence, that alone that guy loses all ****ing respect and benefit of the doubt from me [not that it matters].

So if you ask me, they should have shot and killed him instead.

Did you even read the document posted? :biggums:

Allow me to summarize

1. Police called in during a non-violent verbal disagreement during which Mr Rosby was asked to leave his house for the evening by his wife. He complied.

2. Nevertheless - an army of officers swarmed the house and attacked Rosby - because he had earlier complained about a lack of African American officers within the department and a tendency toward racial profiling.

So what the **** are you talking about :confusedshrug:

Bandito
07-02-2013, 01:07 AM
The police are a bunch of wimps. If you are trained to serve and protect the public and you are afraid of a dog?

The dog is not going to kill a grown ass man, who is trained, such as that police officer. You're going to tell me a trained man is afraid of a dog bite?

What kind of trained law enforcement is he to be afraid of a dog and a dog bite to have to pull out his gun. A dog is not a life and death situation.

:facepalm
You obviously have never bitten by a dog.:facepalm


The dog wasn't being that aggressive, it only snapped at him when he aggressively approached it.It doesn't matter, he felt he was in danger and there was a wild animal in front of him. Logical thinking is to defend yourself, so he shot it.



Dont get me wrong, the owner practically caused everything himself. But still the cops should have had some concern for the innocent dog.What do you expect the policeman to do, talk to the dog? The thing is if the dog stayed in the car they would just call animal control and be done with it, but the dog was obviously dangerous and the policeman got scared and defended himself.

StocktonFan
07-02-2013, 01:08 AM
Did you even read the document posted? :biggums:

Allow me to summarize

1. Police called in during a non-violent verbal disagreement during which Mr Rosby was asked to leave his house for the evening by his wife. He complied.

2. Nevertheless - an army of officers swarmed the house and attacked Rosby - because he had earlier complained about a lack of African American officers within the department and a tendency toward racial profiling.

So what the **** are you talking about :confusedshrug:


Actually just read it now, odd he was hauled off in a non-violent confrontation... he probably did or said something to the cops to warrant it.

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 01:10 AM
You obviously have never bitten by a dog.:facepalm

It doesn't matter, he felt he was in danger and there was a wild animal in front of him. Logical thinking is to defend yourself, so he shot it.


What do you expect the policeman to do, talk to the dog? The thing is if the dog stayed in the car they would just call animal control and be done with it, but the dog was obviously dangerous and the policeman got scared and defended himself.

His owner is standing next to him - he could easily cool down the dog if allowed to....he even attempts to before the idiot pulls out the gun.

Also, Is it not common sense these days that dogs are sensitive to noise? There were many sensible alternatives to shooting the dog.

Tough guy, shooting a dog three ****ing times.

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 01:13 AM
Actually just read it now, odd he was hauled off in a non-violent confrontation... he probably did or said something to the cops to warrant it.

Yes - he antagonized them through official complaints alleging a selective bias against employing African American officers and a tendency within the department toward racial profiling.

StocktonFan
07-02-2013, 01:16 AM
3 cops armed with guns vs a dog and its owner handcuffed. The real dangerous animal in this situation are the cops.

Right, since the cops are the ones looking aggravated and leaping out of a car and running towards another...

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 01:17 AM
No the cops were calm and collected - arresting someone taking pictures and heckling them.

StocktonFan
07-02-2013, 01:18 AM
No the cops were calm and collected - arresting someone taking pictures and heckling them.

Arrest =/= detain

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 01:19 AM
Arrest =/= detain

Whatever - they acted like little girls.

StocktonFan
07-02-2013, 01:21 AM
Whatever - they acted like little girls.

my opinion:

should they have arrested him? no - not a threat
should the have killed the dog? yes - threat

Rubio2Gasol
07-02-2013, 01:26 AM
There were better alternatives to handing the perceived threat of the dog. Ideally allowing the owner to handle it. But if you're racist and don't feel comfortable with that you could also use common sense and common knowledge of dogs acute sense of hearing to fire a warning shot.

OR - and here's an idea - you can not be impulsively detain the guy for nothing which in effect triggered the entire situation.

Phantom_Blue
07-02-2013, 01:26 AM
Wtf, that cop provoked the dog not once, but twice. You do that to most dogs when you're a complete stranger and they're going to react, its animal AND human nature.

That cop must have some history of getting bitten to react like that. He looked like he shit his pants.

daily
07-02-2013, 01:36 AM
Apparently this isn't the first time that Rosby has had issues with the local police. His prior record includes convictions for resisting arrest, battery and driving under the influence. Rosby, a black man, has filed six complaints alleging mistreatment and racial profiling by the Hawthorn Police.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk

HardwoodLegend
07-02-2013, 01:47 AM
What i sound like is someone who lives by "mind your own business" the same people that also made "if you go looking for trouble you're going to get it".

You didn't answer my question about the Trayvon Martin case. But, going off your above quote, I woud assume you think George Zimmerman was in the wrong because he didn't mind his business and went looking for trouble after being instructed to not follow Trayvon.

PistonsFan#21
07-02-2013, 02:00 AM
my opinion:

should they have arrested him? no - not a threat
should the have killed the dog? yes - threat

so according to you any threat is deserving of death? even if its not life threatening?

Im pretty sure using a baton, pepper spray, tazer or simply letting the owner calm the dog down all would have been better options than unloading 3 gun shots on a dog.

and by the way if you look at the video again the dog wasnt even gonna attack until the cop provoked it

HardwoodLegend
07-02-2013, 02:06 AM
so according to you any threat is deserving of death? even if its not life threatening?

Im pretty sure using a baton, pepper spray, tazer or simply letting the owner calm the dog down all would have been better options than unloading 3 gun shots on a dog.

and by the way if you look at the video again the dog wasnt even gonna attack until the cop provoked it

He was looking for any reason to shoot the dog, so he forced one out of it.

PistonsFan#21
07-02-2013, 02:12 AM
He was looking for any reason to shoot the dog, so he forced one out of it.

yea pretty much. Now he can go brag to his friends that he actually had to use his gun for once while on duty :facepalm

9erempiree
07-02-2013, 02:19 AM
I just don't know how a cop would kill this breed of dog.

http://animalslook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/131.jpg

Graviton
07-02-2013, 02:26 AM
This shit happened around here in Bay Area too few months back, 2 cops for some reason were trying to check out the house of some lady in her 50s when she wasn't even home, got a call about suspicious activity perhaps. The cops apparently went to the backyard and shot her dog after she supposedly "made aggressive gestures". The lady told the reporters that her dog was some 7 year old(basically in her 50s by dog years) female golden retriever that never even hurt anyone and was a "sweet old companion".

These cops we have are just the same psychos they hunt, lot of them bunch of trigger happy rednecks that will look for any excuse to fire their weapon. We saw how they handled the Christopher Dorner situation, shooting at old chinese ladies in their cars. :oldlol:

Seriously, send all these cops to Afghanistan lets see how tough they really are, bunch of power hungry ******* think they are tough shit because of a badge. I was surprised they actually hit that dog from that distance, their aim is usually shit in such dramatic circumstances.

Balla_Status
07-02-2013, 05:02 AM
Only in California

tomtucker
07-02-2013, 05:21 AM
....should have shot the dumb n!gger insted...........don

PistonsFan#21
07-02-2013, 07:29 AM
pics of the dog on the guys facebook page:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/226334_3089980426937_585399641_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/413236_2999790532246_874066673_o.jpg

n00bie
07-02-2013, 07:49 AM
Cop was a ****ing *****. So what if he gets biten by a dog? The bite is not going to kill you. There was no need to kill that dog.

I've been biten by multiple dogs before, and they usually just go for your arm. Hurts like hell, but it's not life threatening.

OhNoTimNoSho
07-02-2013, 08:56 AM
The worst part is that theres no repercussions for this type of behavior. This cop will get flack from the public, but his superiors wont even view this as a negative thing. The cop will go on thinking he did what was right and everything will continue the same.

bmulls
07-02-2013, 09:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDBZr4ie2AE&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DWD BZr4ie2AE&has_verified=1

The whole incident. You can see the SWAT truck in the background and the cops trying to secure the scene. You can also see the cop go for the leash twice before shooting the dog.

This is what could have happened:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2012/mar/22/dog-attacks-police-officers

Also, the guy wasn't "arrested for filming cops", he was being detained for interfering with a fcking SWAT raid.

Completely justified.

bmulls
07-02-2013, 09:16 AM
Apparently it was a hostage situation, this guy drove up blaring music, parked as close as possible to the scene and started antagonizing cops.

miller-time
07-02-2013, 09:43 AM
Apparently it was a hostage situation, this guy drove up blaring music, parked as close as possible to the scene and started antagonizing cops.

The dog is the only victim here. That mans idiocy and a trigger happy cop are both to blame. But hindsight makes it so much easier for us to judge them. I doubt any of them thought it would or wanted it to end the way it did.

MavsSuperFan
07-02-2013, 09:58 AM
Apparently it was a hostage situation, this guy drove up blaring music, parked as close as possible to the scene and started antagonizing cops.

Wow, if that is true, why would anyone do that? what is there to be gained from randomly antagonizing cops? Not that I dont believe it, because sometimes people are stupid, but wow, what a waste.

daily
07-02-2013, 12:29 PM
Wow, if that is true, why would anyone do that? what is there to be gained from randomly antagonizing cops? Not that I dont believe it, because sometimes people are stupid, but wow, what a waste.

If you go back in the thread linked to a couple things, Seems the dogs owner is in a personal war with the Hawthorne PD, he has a lawsuit or two going on, he's been arrested a few times and has various convictions.

It wasn't random he set out to be a pest.

fpliii
07-02-2013, 01:01 PM
Not a dog guy personally, but this is absolutely pathetic and indefensible. Shit.

PistonsFan#21
07-02-2013, 01:39 PM
here's the dog owner interview about the incident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtIR_jUhIc8

ErhnamDjinn
07-02-2013, 02:03 PM
Not a dog guy personally, but this is absolutely pathetic and indefensible. Shit.
I really feel bad for the dog since it was just going by instinct, the dumb sh!ts here where the people, the owner just being a douche and the cops just not showing restraint and just not letting things slide.

MavsSuperFan
07-02-2013, 04:18 PM
I dont know if it is true but I have read that the guy was going up to the cops and criticising them for not having black cops there.

LJJ
07-02-2013, 04:28 PM
What kind of an ignorant ass guy is that? :roll:

The police are obviously in some kind of serious stand-off situation right there. So this guy rolls past, parks his car within a couple of feet from the cops, opens the windows and turns up the volume on his radio as he exits his vehicle to start shouting at the cops and causing a disturbance. And of course he brought along his big ass attack dog.

Is this real life?

Orlando Magic
07-02-2013, 07:55 PM
What kind of an ignorant ass guy is that? :roll:

The police are obviously in some kind of serious stand-off situation right there. So this guy rolls past, parks his car within a couple of feet from the cops, opens the windows and turns up the volume on his radio as he exits his vehicle to start shouting at the cops and causing a disturbance. And of course he brought along his big ass attack dog.

Is this real life?

This. 100 percent this.

Also the only other thing that makes this whole situation even more astonishing is the fact that so many people are on the civilian's side.

Face ****ing palm.

Poor dog but this exclusively the fault of the owner.

Goon Time
07-02-2013, 08:10 PM
What kind of an ignorant ass guy is that? :roll:

The police are obviously in some kind of serious stand-off situation right there. So this guy rolls past, parks his car within a couple of feet from the cops, opens the windows and turns up the volume on his radio as he exits his vehicle to start shouting at the cops and causing a disturbance. And of course he brought along his big ass attack dog.




Yeah, they're obviously very busy since 3 of them have time to come over and arrest someone for a "disturbance". I love that you accuse the guy of turning up his radio as he exits his vehicle, is shouting at the police according to you, and his dog is suddenly an attack dog. As far as I can tell the man did nothing wrong but possibly being a nuisance.

The bottom line is it doesn't require a ****ing firearm to keep a dog back, they could have easily let the man control his dog, they could have used any number of non-lethal methods to deter the animal, and if worst comes to worst, which it didn't, one bullet in the dog's ass is a lot more reasonable than 4 to the body. There is no other story here and no other blame to pass. I'm not one of these young boys who blindly adhere to some "**** the police" mentaility but in this case, **** that police, deserves to lose his job.

daily
07-02-2013, 08:16 PM
Yeah, they're obviously very busy since 3 of them have time to come over and arrest someone for a "disturbance". I love that you accuse the guy of turning up his radio as he exits his vehicle, is shouting at the police according to you, and his dog is suddenly an attack dog. As far as I can tell the man did nothing wrong but possibly being a nuisance.


:lol You haven't read one thing in this thread about the guy have you?

Orlando Magic
07-02-2013, 08:20 PM
Yeah, they're obviously very busy since 3 of them have time to come over and arrest someone for a "disturbance". I love that you accuse the guy of turning up his radio as he exits his vehicle, is shouting at the police according to you, and his dog is suddenly an attack dog. As far as I can tell the man did nothing wrong but possibly being a nuisance.

The bottom line is it doesn't require a ****ing firearm to keep a dog back, they could have easily let the man control his dog, they could have used any number of non-lethal methods to deter the animal, and if worst comes to worst (which it didn't), one bullet in the dog's ass is a lot more reasonable than 4 to the body. There is no other story here and no other blame to pass. I'm not one of these young boys who blindly adhere to some "**** the police" mentaility but in this case, **** that police, deserves to lose his job.

You ungrateful immature little shit.

No story other than the dog getting shot? You kidding?

Do you know the details of the situation in the house or do you think that SWAT and 5+ street cops were there for fun for a cat trapped in a tree?

There appears to have been at least a dozen onlookers and this guy is the only one they paid attention to because he made an ass of himself for no reason whatsoever and his dog died as a result.

We can argue all day long on if the officer was justified in using lethal force but what you CAN'T argue is that the civilian's presence was 100 avoidable if he used any brainpower whatsoever.

Goon Time
07-02-2013, 08:20 PM
:lol You haven't read one thing in this thread about the guy have you?


show me where it says he turned his radio up as he got out of the car. show me where anything is written about the dog being an "attack dog".

Goon Time
07-02-2013, 08:26 PM
Do you know the details of the situation in the house or do you think that SWAT and 5+ street cops were there for fun for a cat trapped in a tree?

do you know the details of the situation? you're not from LA so seeing several police cars together is probably a big deal to your podunk small town ass. Yes, this guy rolled up at the most volatile moment of an armed standoff, you can tell from the video :hammerhead:



There appears to have been at least a dozen onlookers and this guy is the only one they paid attention to because he made an ass of himself for no reason whatsoever and his dog died as a result.

the dog died as a result of disgusting police work, nothing more. Nothing about that was a RESULT of the guy not acting right.



We can argue all day long on if the officer was justified in using lethal force but what you CAN'T argue is that the civilian's presence were 100 avoidable if he used any brainpower whatsoever.

We can argue all day long? I'm not sure what you're argument would be you dumb ass.

ace23
07-02-2013, 08:27 PM
this exclusively the fault of the owner.
Yes, because the owner pulled the trigger. :oldlol:

Goon Time
07-02-2013, 08:30 PM
Yes, because the owner pulled the trigger. :oldlol:


He might as well have, he pulled up right when the police were about to open fire on terrorists... he starting shouting about "jihad" and threatening them with his attack dog and concealed weapons. Cops were obviously just doing their job which is above scrutiny according to Orlando Magic's disney ass

Orlando Magic
07-02-2013, 08:30 PM
do you know the details of the situation? you're not from LA so seeing several police cars together is probably a big deal to your podunk small town ass. Yes, this guy rolled up at the most volatile moment of an armed standoff, you can tell from the video :hammerhead:



the dog died as a result of disgusting police work, nothing more. Nothing about that was a RESULT of the guy not acting right.



We can argue all day long? I'm not sure what you're argument would be you dumb ass.

Go through life antagonizing people and playing the victim when they respond in a way you disagree with. Hope it gets you far. Good luck with that.

Goon Time
07-02-2013, 08:33 PM
Go through life antagonizing people and playing the victim when they respond in a way you disagree with. Hope it gets you far. Good luck with that.


I make no attempts to antagonize the police. And while that may have been this man's motive, you talking out of your ass about the situation and trying to justify their despicable "response" is a joke. You're an idiot, good luck with that.

bdreason
07-02-2013, 08:35 PM
I'm fine with the guy being arrested, but the officer should be punished for recklessly opening fire in a public area.

bmulls
07-02-2013, 08:50 PM
There are 2 types of people in this thread.

Those who are capable of logical analysis of the situation

And those who are controlled by their emotions

StocktonFan
07-02-2013, 08:55 PM
There are 2 types of people in this thread.

Those who are capable of logical analysis of the situation

And those who are controlled by their emotions

:applause:

omg poor dog he died... he just wanted to play... **** that shoot it out of its misery,

sommervilleCdn
07-02-2013, 09:12 PM
puuuhlease..do some of you, really believe. that Just putting "one" bullet in the dogs ass will defuse the situation?, that sound like" monday morning quarterbacking to me". And what if that made the dog only angrier??

And why would the police have the owner, to settle down his dog. -History tells us the police have no reason to trust dood. What if he got the dog to attack them instead? shouldn't have been out there in the first place. All that said though, they've reached a point of no return already. Dog was out of the car already and it. It was fight or flight time for the cops.

Dumbass owner lacked the most common sense...why is there no black cops. he says to them? How could he have known, did he take count? Should of never lead to this in the first place. Owner should of minded his own business. Waited until the operation was done -didn't he see the swat car?? ... Men at work brah.

/common sense is in short supply these days
//agreed some of you are just getting caught up, and being emotional. Facts shows that the antagonist was being a straight up dumbass.

Goon Time
07-02-2013, 09:41 PM
puuuhlease..do some of you, really believe. that Just putting "one" bullet in the dogs ass will defuse the situation?, that sound like" monday morning quarterbacking to me". And what if that made the dog only angrier??


are you the world's biggest *****? it's one dog. kick it, punch it, baton it, taze it, try to soothe it with your voice and body language like a normal human being? there's a thousand things you can do to keep ONE dog off three grown men other than shooting it four times. You think dude in handcuffs is going to say "sic em boy!"? And you're the one talking about a lack of common sense. :facepalm



And why would the police have the owner, to settle down his dog. -History tells us the police have no reason to trust dood.

history tells us that? or the police did in their attempt to rationalize the actions taken by officer **** face? they have no reason to trust him to secure his dog before he's taken to jail? you really think those officers thought he was somehow a threat to them in that situation? you have to be ****ing shitting me

sommervilleCdn
07-02-2013, 09:57 PM
way to miss the point. i suspect the cop[s were just going to hold the guy..than releae him after.

youuu must really like taking rabies shots in the stomach, than to allow the dog to bite them or worse maul him. Judgement call. its also, my oppinion they were at the point of no return

/we see things different than.

OhNoTimNoSho
07-02-2013, 10:02 PM
:applause:

omg poor dog he died... he just wanted to play... **** that shoot it out of its misery,
I can tell you're a good human being.

sommervilleCdn
07-02-2013, 10:04 PM
Its possible there could've been a hundred different outcomes, if we go along with your scenario. The cop only had a split second to act. yeeesh.

Let not forget that the owner shoulda rolled up his window, him having not done that, lead to the dog jumping outta window. Like I said dog owner shoulda waitetd until swat team left. IF he wanted to make gentlemanly inquiries. ..yeah i feel bad for the dog in hindsight but not for the owner.

Goon Time
07-02-2013, 10:26 PM
youuu must really like taking rabies shots in the stomach, than to allow the dog to bite them or worse maul him. Judgement call. its also, my oppinion they were at the point of no return


Rabies? You have to be shitting me.

sommervilleCdn
07-02-2013, 10:30 PM
:lol you're a barrel of laughs man. Fine whatever. Cop didn't wanted to get bitten. Blame cop

see yousa guys in the next thread. where theres another outrage..to scream at.

HardwoodLegend
07-02-2013, 11:23 PM
:applause:

omg poor dog he died... he just wanted to play... **** that shoot it out of its misery,

Still waiting to read your take on the Trayvon Martin situation and how you apply your "mind your own business, don't go looking for trouble and you won't find it" philosophy to it.

Got your racist ass backed into a corner, don't I? LOL

daily
07-02-2013, 11:39 PM
The shooting occurred about 7:15 p.m. Sunday at 137th Street and Jefferson Avenue about two hours after police surrounded a house where a gunman had robbed two people inside. A crowd of spectators gathered in response to the large police response, which included several police cars and the department's Bearcat armored vehicle.

As some, including resident Gabriel Martinez, aimed their cellphones at the scene to record it, Rosby drove up in his rented black Mazda. Swain said Rosby stopped in the intersection with music blaring from his windows. Officers told him to turn down the music because they were trying to hear what was happening down the street. Rosby pulled forward, parked and got out with his dog, but left the music still playing loudly.

"It's distracting the officers," Swain said. "It's interfering with what they are able to hear. It's not just a party call. It's an armed robbery call. The officers need to hear what's going on with the people being called out of the residence. That music in

Rosby, who pulled out his own cellphone to record the police activity, did not lower the volume.

"I do apologize if I didn't immediately comply. The music may have been a little loud but I was complying," Rosby said. "I said, 'Sir, I want to make sure nobody's civil rights were being violated.'

A neighbor, who asked not to be identified, said the officers asked him to turn the music down, but he refused. Rosby, she said, responded, "It's my (expletive) radio!"

He said Monday he believed police were retaliating against him because of previous run-ins and struggles with officers. Court records show he has previous convictions for resisting, battery and driving under the influence. Rosby, who is black, said he has filed six complaints (in the past) against the Hawthorne Police Department, alleging mistreatment and racial profiling.

Rosby filed a lawsuit against the city of Hawthorne and two police officers in March, contending officers broke one of his ribs when they responded to a domestic violence disturbance at his house, not far from the dog shooting scene.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_23578147/hawthorne-police-kill-dog-during-arrest-owner

GOBB
07-03-2013, 12:37 AM
Cops have maced and tasered people often without WARNING. Postal workers do this do prevent, fend off dog attacks. This was a classic case of the cops STICKING it to the guy they disliked for challenging their authority. Period.

What a joke.

And when is it illegal to film cops so long as you are not preventing them from doing their duty? Cops think its illegal but its not. They got upset and reacted locking up someone for no reason then killing his dog. Hope the owner sues the f*ck out of them and gets paid. Expensive bullets idiot cops

gts
07-03-2013, 01:30 AM
Cops have maced and tasered people often without WARNING. Postal workers do this do prevent, fend off dog attacks. This was a classic case of the cops STICKING it to the guy they disliked for challenging their authority. Period.

What a joke.

And when is it illegal to film cops so long as you are not preventing them from doing their duty? Cops think its illegal but its not. They got upset and reacted locking up someone for no reason then killing his dog. Hope the owner sues the f*ck out of them and gets paid. Expensive bullets idiot copsHey GOBB,

I read he already is suing them. Once for something that happened in 2011, once for something that happened in 2012 and now he can add 2013. Hat Trick!

HardwoodLegend
07-03-2013, 01:33 AM
This was a classic case of the cops STICKING it to the guy they disliked for challenging their authority. Period.

Exactly. And, the ones defending the cop's actions are simply people who are "tired of blacks playing the victim card" and want to stick it to the inner city community.

You can find them in the Trayvon Martin thread fighting tooth and nail for Zimmerman's acquittal.

iamgine
07-03-2013, 02:02 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2z71hg7.gif

Dog did a pretty funny dance :lol

cleveland
07-03-2013, 02:17 AM
ya thats a funny dance. tryna sound tough over a message board asshole lemme see u get shot in a spine n do a "funny dance" as ur nerves in ur legs r giving away n making ur legs do "funny dance" shit. fukin *****
anyways, this cop needs to get 5 yrs for animal cruelty. coulda just fired a shot in air n scared the shit out the dog. coulda just kicked him, whatever. no need to shoot right at a animal. fuq him, hope he gets what he got comming for him. and once he in the pen, i hope they stick him in general population and not protective custody (which they will) just so somebody can shank him for the fuq of it...cause he a cop :lol

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 03:30 AM
The officers clearly saw the animal in the car. They should have recognized the potential threat and asked the individual to roll up the windows prior to questioning him. This was neglect and predatory behavior in tragic combination on the part of these officers. They handled the situation so wrong, and those saying he was reaching out to grab his leash, why would you attempt to this if you have his owner in handcuffs....He could have just pulled out a tazer or mase, although the situation should have never even got that far. Although I agree the black guy is a moron for doing what he did, there is no reason he should have been in cuffs.

tomtucker
07-03-2013, 03:40 AM
Hey GOBB,

I read he already is suing them. Once for something that happened in 2011, once for something that happened in 2012 and now he can add 2013. Hat Trick!

that

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 03:42 AM
There is no amount of money you could give me for me to watch my dog being shot in front of me...but I am a dog person.

SpurrDurr
07-03-2013, 04:03 AM
It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?

tomtucker
07-03-2013, 04:04 AM
There is no amount of money you could give me for me to watch my dog being shot in front of me...but I am a dog person.

of course not, no normal person would do this................but this case can

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 04:17 AM
It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?

Because he's a black guy with a Rottweiler?

fiddy
07-03-2013, 04:30 AM
Owner's fault.

jamal99
07-03-2013, 04:39 AM
Owner's fault.
This.
I feel very sorry for the dog tho...

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 05:23 AM
This is why I enjoy paying taxes, to feel safe from rottweilers while there is an armed robbery behind them with a hostage. I am glad they decided to cuff someone that did nothing wrong (it is legal to record police officers in California) all while right behind them a series crime is still going on. That poor dog, RIP.

fiddy
07-03-2013, 05:28 AM
This is why I enjoy paying taxes, to feel safe from rottweilers while there is an armed robbery behind them with a hostage. I am glad they decided to cuff someone that did nothing wrong (it is legal to record police officers in California) all while right behind them a series crime is still going on. That poor dog, RIP.
Calm the **** down.

stallionaire
07-03-2013, 08:34 AM
**** the police

bmulls
07-03-2013, 08:58 AM
It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?

He was not arrested, he was detained for interfering with a fcking hostage situation. There is a SWAT truck in the background and a dozen parked police cars. They just entered that house and were trying to secure the area when this jackass rolls up blaring music. He then parks as close as possible to the crime scene, gets out and starts antagonizing cops over imaginary civil rights bullshit.

There were a dozen other people there filming the police and none of them had any problems whatsoever.He brought the entire situation upon himself.

The only pity here is for the dog who had the misfortune to have such a fcking retarded owner.

rhythmic
07-03-2013, 11:19 AM
This video tore me up. What a stupid ****ing cop.

Uhm, the photographer was the idiot.
I feel for the dog, it looked like a loyal companion but this is completely on the guy's hands. The cop didn't immediately shoot the dog, they even attempted to restrain him but he continued to be aggressive and was shot.

It wasn't a damn poodle either, it was a rotty.
The actions were justified, in my opinion.

rhythmic
07-03-2013, 11:20 AM
He was not arrested, he was detained for interfering with a fcking hostage situation. There is a SWAT truck in the background and a dozen parked police cars. They just entered that house and were trying to secure the area when this jackass rolls up blaring music. He then parks as close as possible to the crime scene, gets out and starts antagonizing cops over imaginary civil rights bullshit.

There were a dozen other people there filming the police and none of them had any problems whatsoever.He brought the entire situation upon himself.

The only pity here is for the dog who had the misfortune to have such a fcking retarded owner.

The guy had a problem with them parking 4 vehicles on the road (blocking the road), guy is a moron.

Myth
07-03-2013, 11:24 AM
he was scared the dog was going to bite him. What did you expect him to do? Wait to get bitten? I would have done the exact same thing. It's me or the dog. It was completely justified.

Why'd he keep moving towards the dog then? If you are scared a dog is going to bite you, you don't move towards it.

rhythmic
07-03-2013, 11:26 AM
Cops have maced and tasered people often without WARNING. Postal workers do this do prevent, fend off dog attacks. This was a classic case of the cops STICKING it to the guy they disliked for challenging their authority. Period.

What a joke.

And when is it illegal to film cops so long as you are not preventing them from doing their duty? Cops think its illegal but its not. They got upset and reacted locking up someone for no reason then killing his dog. Hope the owner sues the f*ck out of them and gets paid. Expensive bullets idiot cops

They didn't kill the dog on purpose. The dog ATTACKED the police and they had to put him down AFTER trying to restrain the dog initially. That moron looked like he wanted to be arrested, carefully analyze the guys body language. The way he was walking towards them looked like he was ready to punch them or something.

He then locked his dog in the car, with windows wide open.
The definition of an idiot.

Phantom_Blue
07-03-2013, 12:33 PM
[QUOTE=rhythmic

bluechox2
07-03-2013, 12:43 PM
dog didnbt deserve it, but owner did

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 01:10 PM
I think most of us can agree that the guy sucks as an owner, but I still don't see why the dog had to be shot.

The dog did not have to die, not to mention you approach any dog like that and they're not going to react in a friendly manner. He approached it once and it reactedly negatively, then the guy goes back in to try it a second time, wtf was he thinking.
Well I think it is obvious he wasn't thinking and he needs to be punished for that. Completely uncalled for.

MavsSuperFan
07-03-2013, 01:48 PM
Generally speak I support recording the police, but there is a time and place for everything. An armed robbery situation isn't the time to go harass police officers about the lack of diversity on the force and blare your music loudly at them. If you want to make this complaint at almost any other time I would support you, but during an armed robbery situation maybe don't go over and start stuff with police officers already busy and stressed.

Now with that said it is tragic the dog had to die. But I understand why the cop did that. The dog was a threat, probably not a mortal threat, but a dog bite could have seriously wounded an officer. I put 70% of the blame on the owner, and 30% on the cop.

MavsSuperFan
07-03-2013, 01:56 PM
It's not illegal to record the police.
Why did he get arrested in the 1st place?

Armed robbers barricaded themselves in their victims house

This guy drives up to them blares his radio loudly making it harder for them to hear what's going on inside the house and communicate.

Guy starts to question why there are no black cops.

I think the guy acted totally unreasonably. I don't think it was ridiculous to arrest the guy in that situation. There were lots of people recording the cops. He is the only one that got arrested, because he insisted on inserting himself into the situation.

MavsSuperFan
07-03-2013, 02:01 PM
Because he's a black guy with a Rottweiler?

You wouldn't have arrested him in that situation?
-your outside a victim's house where the armed robbers have barricaded themselves in the house
-random guy comes up and blasts loud music, thereby hindering your communication and ability to hear what is going on in the house.
-He walks close to you
-refuses to turn down his music and go away.
-starts to criticise you for the lack of diversity

Its a stressful situation already, and he was being an irritant on purpose in order to get attention.

Scholar
07-03-2013, 05:28 PM
People mentioning that the cops were already in a stressful situation need to realize these guys are paid to handle stressful situations. It's not the dog's fault he encountered a trigger happy piece of shit.

Dbrog
07-03-2013, 09:26 PM
Cops are the sickest animals on this planet and it's sad how protected they are by society. Absolutely sickening above the law ****s

AintNoSunshine
07-03-2013, 09:51 PM
Never bring a Rottweiler to a gun fight.

I feel sorry for the dog but his owner is an idiot


That's all there is to this story, loyal dog, dumbazz owner

miller-time
07-03-2013, 10:02 PM
People mentioning that the cops were already in a stressful situation need to realize these guys are paid to handle stressful situations. It's not the dog's fault he encountered a trigger happy piece of shit.

There are two faults here. Just because the police are at fault for shooting the dog doesn't mean the owner is justified in his behaviour.

Do you know what handling a stressful situation means? It includes the category - making sure people passing by don't interject themselves into the situation because it might compromise it. Their job is as much to handle the immediate situation as it is to make sure that other people are not interfering in it. Dozens of people were filming, yet this guy drew their attention because of his behaviour.

The dog is the victim in the story, just because the guy owned the dog doesn't make him a victim too. Unless you call him a victim of his own reckless and stupid behaviour.

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 10:29 PM
The cops should have never messed with the guy to begin with. THAT'S what caused the dog to get shot.

Just for clarification, here's the timeline of events:

1. Guy is on the street corner, dog on leash, recording the cops.
2. Two cops half a block up start discussing his presence.
3. They begin to walk towards him after staring at him.
4. The guy puts his dog in the car and walks toward the cops.
5. The cop motions for him to turn around, and detains him.
6. The two cops then assault the man, and the dog starts barking and gets out of the car.
7. The dog goes over to the cops and starts barking for his owner.
8. The cop reaches out for the dog, but not for the leash.
9. When the dog bucks up at the officer, he shoots him four times.

Since it is not illegal to film public servants in the commission of their duties, nor is it illegal to have a dog on a leash, the cops instigated the actions that took place, and are fully responsible for the results.

Simply put, those cops who assaulted him, arrested him, and shot his dog are all engaged in criminal acts, to which this department is doing it's very best to tap dance away from and cover up.

There were extra cops (the ones involved) why didn't they set up a perimeter?

iamgine
07-03-2013, 10:35 PM
The cops should have never messed with the guy to begin with. THAT'S what caused the dog to get shot.

Just for clarification, here's the timeline of events:

1. Guy is on the street corner, dog on leash, recording the cops.
2. Two cops half a block up start discussing his presence.
3. They begin to walk towards him after staring at him.
4. The guy puts his dog in the car and walks toward the cops.
5. The cop motions for him to turn around, and detains him.
6. The two cops then assault the man, and the dog starts barking and gets out of the car.
7. The dog goes over to the cops and starts barking for his owner.
8. The cop reaches out for the dog, but not for the leash.
9. When the dog bucks up at the officer, he shoots him four times.

Since it is not illegal to film public servants in the commission of their duties, nor is it illegal to have a dog on a leash, the cops instigated the actions that took place, and are fully responsible for the results.

Simply put, those cops who assaulted him, arrested him, and shot his dog are all engaged in criminal acts, to which this department is doing it's very best to tap dance away from and cover up.

There were extra cops (the ones involved) why didn't they set up a perimeter?
What about blaring his music so loud and refuse to cooperate when they told him to turn it down and not be too close to the area?

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 10:38 PM
Why didn't they put a perimeter up? There was a swat team handling the situation plus how many extra cops? How hard it is to put a barricade or tape up? The irony of the whole story is they arrest him for video taping, and after all this bullshit happened they are now asking the community to send in their videos so they can see what happened... What a ****ing joke of a police department.

daily
07-03-2013, 10:40 PM
What about blaring his music so loud and refuse to cooperate when they told him to turn it down and not be too close to the area?Or blocking the intersection to begin with and having to be told to move the car. Then he moves the car to the curb gets out but leaves music blaring. Tells cops to "f*ck off it's my radio" when they ask him to turn it down. tells cops he's there to protect people's civil rights.

iamgine
07-03-2013, 10:40 PM
Why didn't they put a perimeter up? There was a swat team handling the situation plus how many extra cops? How hard it is to put a barricade or tape up? The irony of the whole story is they arrest him for video taping, and after all this bullshit happened they are now asking the community to send in their videos so they can see what happened... What a ****ing joke of a police department.
So if they didn't put up a perimeter it's okay to just waltz in with a boombox. Even after told otherwise by a policeman. :facepalm

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 10:41 PM
Meh I am not saying the dog owner wasn't at fault of course he was, but most civilians are ****ing retarded, cops have more power than any regular civilian therefore should have better judgement.

They executed the dog.

iamgine
07-03-2013, 10:51 PM
Meh I am not saying the dog owner wasn't at fault of course he was, but most civilians are ****ing retarded, cops have more power than any regular civilian therefore should have better judgement.
I think they handled it like it should be handled. Detain the troublemaker. Kill a hostile dog.

If the dog had jumped the police, the discussion would be "why didn't the police shoot it beforehand when they see it's very hostile. What retarded cops."

daily
07-03-2013, 10:55 PM
I think they handled it like it should be handled. Detain the troublemaker. Kill a hostile dog.

If the dog had jumped the police, the discussion would be "why didn't the police shoot it beforehand when they see it's very hostile. What retarded cops." Or if he bit the owner while handcuffed, People forget that once a person is cuffed they are the responsibility of the PD to be kept safe.

And everyone spare me the why would the dog bite it's owner questions. Dogs are odd and can react to stress in odd ways

I still feel bad for the dog. I still think the owner is an idiot but now that I've read up on him I think he's an assh*le and an idiot, this situation was 100% provoked on his part. He just didn't get the outcome he was hoping for.

brandonislegend
07-03-2013, 11:00 PM
Or if he bit the owner while handcuffed, People forget that once a person is cuffed they are the responsibility of the PD to be kept safe.

And everyone spare me the why would the dog bite it's owner questions. Dogs are odd and can react to stress in odd ways

I still feel bad for the dog. I still think the owner is an idiot but now that I've read up on him I think he's an assh*le and an idiot, this situation was 100% provoked on his part. He just didn't get the outcome he was hoping for.

Meh I say 70% his fault 30% cops...both were morons that day.

iamgine
07-03-2013, 11:15 PM
Meh I say 70% his fault 30% cops...both were morons that day.
Nah just the owner

Jello
07-03-2013, 11:27 PM
Meh I am not saying the dog owner wasn't at fault of course he was, but most civilians are ****ing retarded, cops have more power than any regular civilian therefore should have better judgement.

They executed the dog.
Do you know what an execution is? Did the police officer have full control of the dog? Seriously, bunch of idiots on this board.

9erempiree
07-04-2013, 01:55 AM
The police officer was supposedly going for the leash? Let me ask why he was going for the leash. It's not like having a leash would effectively stop the dog, if the dog was indeed dangerous.

From the video, I see the police officer provoking the dog. Again, what makes one think that he was grabbing the leash? There's a reason why dog catchers have one of these.

http://blog.al.com/pets/2008/07/large_animal-control.jpg

It was provocation. The dog already backed off and sniffing the ground. The cop aggressively approaches the dog with gun in hand and ready to shoot.

They were tired of the dog owner and to get him back for all his trash talking was to shoot his dog.

d.bball.guy
07-04-2013, 02:15 AM
Both sides made mistakes. I mean the guy provoked the cops by filming them and not doing what he should be doing. He didn't even secure the dog inside his car. The cops have the right to do what they did to the guy and the killing of the dog was just the result of the carelessness of the owner.

And about the killing of the dog, it's completely justified. What would you do if a hostile dog tried to attack you and you can't just run but you have a gun? Just let it bite you? No. You shoot it for your own or other people's safety. I was just wondering why they don't have a taser to use or let the owner get his pet calmed, though. The cops hold some of the blame but it's mostly the owner's fault. Still, I feel bad for the dog, and for the cops who are now in the hot seat because the general public blame them for the killing of them dog when it was the owners fault that his pet got killed.

KNOW1EDGE
07-04-2013, 02:27 AM
Did you guys watch the video?

The police shot the mans dog, not the dogs owner.

The police had no reason to even approach the man, he wasn't doing anything illegal. They illegally detained him.

Instead of killing an innocent dog I would have either simply brushed it away, uncuff the man and allow him to detain his dog, or at the most SEVERE I would have tazed the dog.

But the cops in this video are pieces of sh1t, like most cops.

9erempiree
07-04-2013, 02:34 AM
Trained in combat, armed and dangerous.

-vs-

A dog.


Do you guys not see what's wrong here? A trained and armed man is afraid of a dog? They executed the dog. If the dog wanted to bite, it would have did it the first time. They don't stop in their tracks. This particular dog stopped and went sniffing. Till the officer approached it with a foreign object, unknown to the dog.

Ancient Legend
07-04-2013, 03:54 AM
The whole situation derived from an illegal detention, so the cops are most at fault. However if a huge dog was lunging at me as a civilian, specially a Rottie, and I was packing heat, I would have shot it without hesitation. The black dude didn't listen to his grandma though: don't go looking for trouble or trouble will find you.

If you found someone taking pictures of your little daughter at a public park, and you told him to stop and he wouldn't because he's not doing anything illegal, you would still try to to kick his ass. What I'm saying is the dude could have avoided the situation by not being so overtly daring while filming them and having the loud music on.

brandonislegend
07-04-2013, 04:14 AM
The awkward moment UPS, FedEx, Post Office employees, and others across the country handle dogs more effectively, and far less violently, than trained officers...

iamgine
07-04-2013, 04:44 AM
The awkward moment UPS, FedEx, Post Office employees, and others across the country handle dogs more effectively, and far less violently, than trained officers...
I'd say they handled it very effectively other than maybe they could waste less bullets and work on their aim so it's a one shot kill next time.

NuggetsFan
07-04-2013, 04:50 AM
I sincerely hope that police officer has a huge date with karma. Hopefully something newsworthy so I can get some satisfaction out of it. Hopefully that photographer is a connected gangbanger or some shit :oldlol:

NuggetsFan
07-04-2013, 04:55 AM
If you found someone taking pictures of your little daughter at a public park, and you told him to stop and he wouldn't because he's not doing anything illegal, you would still try to to kick his ass. What I'm saying is the dude could have avoided the situation by not being so overtly daring while filming them and having the loud music on.

What a retarded connection. Some random taking pictures of a little girl vs a guy filming police(INCREDIBLY POPULAR BTW) in a hectic situation. Yeah really similar, really it's almost like painting free candy on a van and abducting children. I wouldn't stand for that, so would why the police stand for getting filmed :oldlol:

Dude put himself in the situation, agreed. He didn't do it against a civilian who follows his own personal beliefs but against the Police department. They don't exactly follow the same set of rules. Just because there annoyed or upset doesn't mean they can go off book, it's why we have the system in place.

I wouldn't want to be a cop for that reason. Have people fcking with you constantly would suck but it's what you sign up for.

Phantom_Blue
07-04-2013, 05:15 AM
Both sides made mistakes. I mean the guy provoked the cops by filming them and not doing what he should be doing. He didn't even secure the dog inside his car. The cops have the right to do what they did to the guy and the killing of the dog was just the result of the carelessness of the owner.

And about the killing of the dog, it's completely justified. What would you do if a hostile dog tried to attack you and you can't just run but you have a gun? Just let it bite you? No. You shoot it for your own or other people's safety. I was just wondering why they don't have a taser to use or let the owner get his pet calmed, though. The cops hold some of the blame but it's mostly the owner's fault. Still, I feel bad for the dog, and for the cops who are now in the hot seat because the general public blame them for the killing of them dog when it was the owners fault that his pet got killed.

Again, there were so many other ways, some that you listed that this could have been handled. I don't blame the cop if he just got scared shitless and he regrets it and gets suspended, but for people to say its "Justified" wtf lol.

That's like saying we should all pack some heat, next time we go to pet a dog and it barks at us, just pump it full of bullets. Not even shoot a warning shot, just put it out its misery for defending itself. It's self defense for us and its justified. That dog shouldn't be mean and should be more understanding of my intentions.

Holy **** there's some dumbasses on this forum lol.

iamgine
07-04-2013, 05:25 AM
Again, there were so many other ways, some that you listed that this could have been handled. I don't blame the cop if he just got scared shitless and he regrets it and gets suspended, but for people to say its "Justified" wtf lol.

That's like saying we should all pack some heat, next time we go to pet a dog and it barks at us, just pump it full of bullets. Not even shoot a warning shot, just put it out its misery for defending itself. It's self defense for us and its justified. That dog shouldn't be mean and should be more understanding of my intentions.

Holy **** there's some dumbasses on this forum lol.
If you are doing police work and a random rottweiler is being very hostile towards you and interrupting your work. Then yeah pump it full of bullets.

People forget this is a rottweiler. That breed is very protective.

aj1987
07-04-2013, 05:54 AM
9er isn't a troll? I was just hoping for his sake that he was a troll. Damn!

Anyways, that guy should get his ass kicked for putting his dog in that situation. He's the reason why the dog is dead. Not gonna blame the cops for this one.

GOBB
07-04-2013, 09:07 AM
[QUOTE=rhythmic

GOBB
07-04-2013, 09:09 AM
The awkward moment UPS, FedEx, Post Office employees, and others across the country handle dogs more effectively, and far less violently, than trained officers...

Yup. We should be allowed to carry guns now and shoot dogs for interrupting our work.

Just2McFly
07-04-2013, 11:03 AM
i've never had a pet, not a dog person at all, but f*ck every one who is giving the blame to the owner in this thread. i dont what kind of world you live in, but this whole "if he wasnt there, his dog wouldn't have been shot" mentality is retarded.

keep making excuses for trigger happy cops like they don't reside in your area, what a bunch of f*ck tards. its getting so bad out here, n*ggas are going to have to buy bulletproof vests for their dogs man.. god damn.

What's next? Cops letting off a clip into someone's fish tank? :biggums:

fact is they are trained to handle pressure packed situations, yet they are blasting away dogs when they could have just had the owner calm down and restrain his own pet?

Rasheed1
07-04-2013, 11:20 AM
Not shocked to see cops do something like that. They can be very reckless at times.. tasing old women and children... Punching females in the face.. Shooting dogs.. just acting like idiots

Cops are generally out of control.. Its ridiculous.. There are many ways to handle the situation without killing the dog, but cops are like that nowadays. Not all cops are out of control, but way too many of them are.

People in here defending them wont get it until their reckless behavior affects you

rhythmic
07-04-2013, 11:48 AM
If you say so

Well, I didn't see the cops shoot a dog that was simply walking on the street or even just barking at them. I saw a dog trying to attack cops that were detaining the idiot who wasn't careful enough to prevent this incident from escalating.

I agree, cops are scum and they have done a lot of ****ed up shit recently but this incident is not one of them. I do agree that the cop could have simply tazzed the dog or tried to restrain it I guess, but at the same time he was just protecting himself. You guys are acting like the cop came to the car opened the door and shot the dog for no reason.

Did the dog not try to attack the cops while they were doing their job?
How the hell can you blame the cop in this situation and not the owner is beyond me. You can say it was excessive and I'd agree but I don't think it's unnecessary. Cop was protecting himself and they never asked that idiot to provoke them. They didn't even pay attention to him until he started to instigate them further.

rhythmic
07-04-2013, 11:53 AM
i've never had a pet, not a dog person at all, but f*ck every one who is giving the blame to the owner in this thread. i dont what kind of world you live in, but this whole "if he wasnt there, his dog wouldn't have been shot" mentality is retarded.

keep making excuses for trigger happy cops like they don't reside in your area, what a bunch of f*ck tards. its getting so bad out here, n*ggas are going to have to buy bulletproof vests for their dogs man.. god damn.

What's next? Cops letting off a clip into someone's fish tank? :biggums:

fact is they are trained to handle pressure packed situations, yet they are blasting away dogs when they could have just had the owner calm down and restrain his own pet?

A good cop probably would have done that.
I don't agree with the rest of your post.

If you were being attacked by a rottweiler and had a gun, and you felt like your life was in danger, would you not protect yourself by shooting it? You guys are angry because you're speculating the cops motives; and I'd agree if his motive was just to be trigger happy then I'd blame the cop but from that video maybe we should leave speculations out of it. The situation does seem like the cop was protecting himself from an angry dog.

The owner was an idiot, end of story.

Just2McFly
07-04-2013, 12:03 PM
your whole reasoning is retarded. a cop is going to run into idiots and knuckleheads, that's expected going into the damn job.

keep giving these guys a pass and blame people like the dog's owner....that's expected but if something should ever happen to you because you step out of pocket....remember this.

im still trying to figure out what he did that would ever allow you to blame him for his dog getting shot. what if it was his child? what would you say then?

its so sad...using LETHAL FORCE is considered protecting himself now? as if there aren't any measures to keep safe in between doing nothing and killing people/dogs?

come on man

wish i could live without accountability like some of these cops

iamgine
07-04-2013, 12:14 PM
your whole reasoning is retarded. a cop is going to run into idiots and knuckleheads, that's expected going into the damn job.

keep giving these guys a pass and blame people like the dog's owner....that's expected but if something should ever happen to you because you step out of pocket....remember this.

im still trying to figure out what he did that would ever allow you to blame him for his dog getting shot. what if it was his child? what would you say then?

its so sad...using LETHAL FORCE is considered protecting himself now? as if there aren't any measures to keep safe in between doing nothing and killing people/dogs?

come on man

wish i could live without accountability like some of these cops
If it's his child then it's not okay. Simple as that. :confusedshrug:

It's not protecting himself. If you are doing police work and a random rottweiler is being very hostile towards you and interrupting your work as well as compromising the safety of the people around it, then kill it. That should be standard protocol.

rhythmic
07-04-2013, 12:20 PM
your whole reasoning is retarded. a cop is going to run into idiots and knuckleheads, that's expected going into the damn job.

keep giving these guys a pass and blame people like the dog's owner....that's expected but if something should ever happen to you because you step out of pocket....remember this.

im still trying to figure out what he did that would ever allow you to blame him for his dog getting shot. what if it was his child? what would you say then?

its so sad...using LETHAL FORCE is considered protecting himself now? as if there aren't any measures to keep safe in between doing nothing and killing people/dogs?

come on man

wish i could live without accountability like some of these cops

So my reasoning is retarded but comparing a hostile rotty to a baby isn't?

oh the horror
07-04-2013, 12:39 PM
To some people their pet are their children. You don't have to agree with that but it's the truth.

K
07-04-2013, 12:39 PM
I have the sensation there is a lot of cat lover ******* in this thread. :facepalm

MavsSuperFan
07-04-2013, 12:49 PM
Not shocked to see cops do something like that. They can be very reckless at times.. tasing old women and children... Punching females in the face.. Shooting dogs.. just acting like idiots

Cops are generally out of control.. Its ridiculous.. There are many ways to handle the situation without killing the dog, but cops are like that nowadays. Not all cops are out of control, but way too many of them are.

People in here defending them wont get it until their reckless behavior affects you

Yeah but they guy kind of bought it on himself. Who when they see armed robbers barricade themselves in their victims house and surrounded by cops drives close to the cops and blares loud music at them. Then gets out and asks the cops about the lack of diversity (a legitimate question almost any other time). Then he refuses to leave or turn down his music. I am sorry I dont think a reasonable person does that, in that situation.

To the people saying he got arrested because he was filming the cops, well why weren't other people filming arrested?

I know people who are cops, they aren't superhuman mixed martial artists who can handle anything. Die hard/Super Cop/Lethal weapon/etc are just movies. Cops get scared all the time, they are human. When confronting armed robbers they are going to be super tense no matter what (you would be too). Also cops don't want to get bitten by a rottweiler. If that bit hits nerves/tendons, it could change a persons life.

There are lots of cases where cops behave unreasonably (Eg that cop in that beat a latino kid for saying he needed a warrant to enter his car), this wasn't one of them.

MavsSuperFan
07-04-2013, 12:52 PM
To some people their pet are their children. You don't have to agree with that but it's the truth.

I am a dog person, but that shouldn't matter under the law.

To some people the inanimate objects are super important, it's irrelevant under the law. Humans>>>Dogs under the law.

PistonsFan#21
07-04-2013, 01:19 PM
Well, I didn't see the cops shoot a dog that was simply walking on the street or even just barking at them. I saw a dog trying to attack cops that were detaining the idiot who wasn't careful enough to prevent this incident from escalating.

I agree, cops are scum and they have done a lot of ****ed up shit recently but this incident is not one of them. I do agree that the cop could have simply tazzed the dog or tried to restrain it I guess, but at the same time he was just protecting himself. You guys are acting like the cop came to the car opened the door and shot the dog for no reason.

Did the dog not try to attack the cops while they were doing their job?
How the hell can you blame the cop in this situation and not the owner is beyond me. You can say it was excessive and I'd agree but I don't think it's unnecessary. Cop was protecting himself and they never asked that idiot to provoke them. They didn't even pay attention to him until he started to instigate them further.

You said earlier that they didnt kill the dog on purpose. Clearly they did since they shot at it 4+times. Or maybe it was accidental?

and also even if the dog tried to attack lets not act like 5+ police officers couldnt stop it with tazers, pepper spray or batons. Or even let the owner take care of it. They clearly were trigger happy and saw no problem whatsoever with killing it. Bunch of pu$$ies deserve to get a beatdown when they are off duty.

Rasheed1
07-04-2013, 01:23 PM
Yeah but they guy kind of bought it on himself. Who when they see armed robbers barricade themselves in their victims house and surrounded by cops drives close to the cops and blares loud music at them. Then gets out and asks the cops about the lack of diversity (a legitimate question almost any other time). Then he refuses to leave or turn down his music. I am sorry I dont think a reasonable person does that, in that situation.

None of that is an excuse for the cops killing the dog.. Detain the guy and either have him calm the dog, or tase it...

Blowing the dog away is just a dumb thing to do, and you cant really blame the owner for what the cop did..

To me, it silly to try and take all the responsibility away from the person who actually killed the dog... The owner didnt shoot the dog, the cop did. He didnt have to do that. Like I said, cops do the same sh*t when it comes to people too. This is just another example of it.. They tase women & children, shoot unarmed homeless people, and you can usually find some people who will try to defend their behavior..




I know people who are cops, they aren't superhuman mixed martial artists who can handle anything. Die hard/Super Cop/Lethal weapon/etc are just movies. Cops get scared all the time, they are human. When confronting armed robbers they are going to be super tense no matter what (you would be too). Also cops don't want to get bitten by a rottweiler. If that bit hits nerves/tendons, it could change a persons life.

I know some cops too.. Alot of them are good people, But I also know their mentality.. The authority they have sometimes goes to their heads and they do things without thinking them through totally.. People (and in this case a dog) suffer for the bad decisions cops make and people shouldnt make excuses for cops when they make bad decisions. Their job is to handle these situations professionally, especially since people can die or be killed if they dont.

Nothing wrong with detaining and arresting the owner, but killing the dog was uncalled for.. cant blame the owner because the cop shot his dog... He didnt sicc the dog on the cops.. Cop just took the easy way out and killed it


There are lots of cases where cops behave unreasonably (Eg that cop in that beat a latino kid for saying he needed a warrant to enter his car), this wasn't one of them.


Agree to disagree.. I think this is just another example of a cop blasting away and not being more prudent with his power.. This is why people dont respect the police.

WWRWestbrookDo?
07-04-2013, 01:42 PM
seriously fckin terrible that the dog pays for his dumb owners mistake.

The police asks the dude to turn down his music because they are in the middle of a standoff and this @sshole leaves the music on and starts taking pictures.

Then we find out this idiot has a lawsuit against the police department already. So obviously his intention was to make a scene then he was hoping the police would rough him up since there were cameras everywhere. He wanted to use that moment to try to win a lawsuit but instead he lost his dog and looks like an absolute moron.

The dog never deserved to die and yes a taser would have been better.

Fck his owner.

WWRWestbrookDo?
07-04-2013, 01:45 PM
i've never had a pet, not a dog person at all, but f*ck every one who is giving the blame to the owner in this thread. i dont what kind of world you live in, but this whole "if he wasnt there, his dog wouldn't have been shot" mentality is retarded.

keep making excuses for trigger happy cops like they don't reside in your area, what a bunch of f*ck tards. its getting so bad out here, n*ggas are going to have to buy bulletproof vests for their dogs man.. god damn.

What's next? Cops letting off a clip into someone's fish tank? :biggums:

fact is they are trained to handle pressure packed situations, yet they are blasting away dogs when they could have just had the owner calm down and restrain his own pet?

how can you defend the owner? that moron didn't listen to the police when they told him to turn the music down. HE was there to cause a scene because he had a lawsuit pending already against the police department.

his intentions are so clear. Stop being a jackass and defending the moron.

Draz
07-04-2013, 01:49 PM
Honestly it looked justified. I love animals and I don't like the harm of any. We have to be human sometime and maybe it was the officers gut response to that dog, nothing more. It's wrong but what can we do? Perhaps a taser would be better but instant reaction and fear could of caused a gunshot. Idk what more to say.

brandonislegend
07-04-2013, 01:50 PM
There are a lot of mentally unstable people in this thread.

Just2McFly
07-04-2013, 02:37 PM
how can you defend the owner? that moron didn't listen to the police when they told him to turn the music down. HE was there to cause a scene because he had a lawsuit pending already against the police department.

his intentions are so clear. Stop being a jackass and defending the moron.
If his intentions are so clear to an idiot like you, who wasn't there to begin with, how did the cops STILL fall for it? Obviously there is a problem with these cops.

aj1987
07-04-2013, 06:07 PM
If his intentions are so clear to an idiot like you, who wasn't there to begin with, how did the cops STILL fall for it? Obviously there is a problem with these cops.
When there's a SWAT team and about a dozen cop cars (cops with MP-5's and shit) you don't mess with them. Just imagine if your loved one was involved in the hostage situation.

The guy was trying to be a little bitch. There were a butt load of other people around the scene, who were recording. Yet, the dumbass (guy in the video) decides to move about as close to the scene as possible. That's why he got detained. He doesn't even have the common sense to raise the windows. Grade A dumbass. Hope people like him don't pollute the gene pool.

d.bball.guy
07-04-2013, 06:44 PM
Again, there were so many other ways, some that you listed that this could have been handled. I don't blame the cop if he just got scared shitless and he regrets it and gets suspended, but for people to say its "Justified" wtf lol.

That's like saying we should all pack some heat, next time we go to pet a dog and it barks at us, just pump it full of bullets. Not even shoot a warning shot, just put it out its misery for defending itself. It's self defense for us and its justified. That dog shouldn't be mean and should be more understanding of my intentions.

Holy **** there's some dumbasses on this forum lol.
I should've picked a better word than justified, but you get the point. That's why I said the cop holds some of the blame, but not all. He could've handled it a lot better than just shoot the dog. Still, the owner could've prevented everything from happening if we wasn't being an idiot. That's what most people(specifically on Facebook and other social media sites) don't see.

Stempel, HERB
07-05-2013, 11:34 AM
If his intentions are so clear to an idiot like you, who wasn't there to begin with, how did the cops STILL fall for it? Obviously there is a problem with these cops.

not surprising to find you in this thread behaving like a racist moron.

MavsSuperFan
07-05-2013, 02:08 PM
When there's a SWAT team and about a dozen cop cars (cops with MP-5's and shit) you don't mess with them. Just imagine if your loved one was involved in the hostage situation.

The guy was trying to be a little bitch. There were a butt load of other people around the scene, who were recording. Yet, the dumbass (guy in the video) decides to move about as close to the scene as possible. That's why he got detained. He doesn't even have the common sense to raise the windows. Grade A dumbass. Hope people like him don't pollute the gene pool.

Was it a hostage situation?

I heard the armed robbers barricaded themselves in the victims house, but were the victims still in there?

If it was a hostage situation thats even worse, what Leon Rosby did.

Cops do plenty of things wrong, Eg. stop and frisk, trying to get there "stats up" with drug convictions, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0atL1HSwi8

The house I live in talks about this.

Nothing the cops did in this situation was unreasonable or wrong.
Rosby deserved to be arrested for his actions. That is a critical situation where lives are at risk and he decides to make the situation worse. Everybody else was standing much further back and videotaping it. He was the only civilian that inserted himself into the situation. After refusing to turn down his music and go away he deserves to be arrested in that situation (which was an armed robbery stand off).

His dog attacks the police officer arresting him, understandable since his dog probably thought his owner was being attacked and wanted to help. The police officers react to a rottweiler about to bite him and shoots the rottweiler. Personally I think this was the wrong action, but its understandable.

Rosby was the only person that behaved unreasonably and beyond comprehension. Who goes up to police officers during an armed standoff with robbers and blares music, at them refusing to turn down the music, and criticising them for a lack of racial diversity? Who in that situation behaves that way? I am being generous to Rosby in saying the cop was 30% at fault.

daily
08-13-2013, 04:58 PM
Looks like Mr. Rosby has been busy.

[I]POSTED: 08/13/13, 1:24 PM PDT |
The owner of a Rottweiler that was fatally shot by Hawthorne police, prompting protests and threats against the department when a video of the shooting was circulated online, was expected to be arraigned Tuesday on a series of felonies, including dissuading a witness and making criminal threats.

Leon Cordell Rosby, 52, was charged Friday with two felony counts each of dissuading a witness from prosecuting a crime, intimidation of a witness and making criminal threats, along with one misdemeanor count of resisting arrest.

Rosby was expected to surrender for arraignment sometime Tuesday at the Airport Branch Courthouse, according to the District Attorney

9erempiree
08-13-2013, 05:02 PM
[QUOTE=daily]Looks like Mr. Rosby has been busy.

[I]POSTED: 08/13/13, 1:24 PM PDT |
The owner of a Rottweiler that was fatally shot by Hawthorne police, prompting protests and threats against the department when a video of the shooting was circulated online, was expected to be arraigned Tuesday on a series of felonies, including dissuading a witness and making criminal threats.

Leon Cordell Rosby, 52, was charged Friday with two felony counts each of dissuading a witness from prosecuting a crime, intimidation of a witness and making criminal threats, along with one misdemeanor count of resisting arrest.

Rosby was expected to surrender for arraignment sometime Tuesday at the Airport Branch Courthouse, according to the District Attorney

TheSilentKiller
08-13-2013, 05:09 PM
that was disgusting

daily
08-13-2013, 11:57 PM
The woman didn't press any charges, did she? Probably just the police doing here.

LA Times is saying he showed up at her house and started threatening her, she called the police on him.