Report: Howard expected to re-sign with Lakers

[FiveRings]

http://www.thescore.com/home/articles/1226048-report-howard-expected-to-re-sign-with-lakers

[I]Hearing strongly that Howard will resign with the Lakers.

[Derka]

Gimme Woj or gimme no news at all.

[poido123]

Good from a Lakers POV.

You guys have been through the wringer ever since this child arrived.

[Da_Bulls_23]

[QUOTE=FiveRings]http://www.thescore.com/home/articles/1226048-report-howard-expected-to-re-sign-with-lakers

[I]Hearing strongly that Howard will resign with the Lakers.

[SpecialQue]

They're my favorite team, but Howard had no reason to re-sign with the Lakers. Last season was a fiasco and D'antoni is still there.

[MJ(Mean John)]

Woj:

@WojYahooNBA: Source on Kobe Bryant's message to Dwight Howard in Lakers meeting: "Straight forward. He talked about winning mostly."


That's all I'm seeing now

[brantonli]

Woj:

@WojYahooNBA: Source on Kobe Bryant's message to Dwight Howard in Lakers meeting: "Straight forward. He talked about winning mostly."


That's all I'm seeing now

IMO him and his agent know that whatever goes on in these meetings will be leaked out, so they are trying to go poker faced and probably ask the exact same questions of all the teams, rather than asking team-specific questions and risking the media figuring out where he might go. Sounds exactly like what happened in the Houston meeting tbh, asking lots and lots about winning.

[LosScandalous]

Best news all day from a credible source :pimp:

[bigkingsfan]

8th seed next year must be very convincing.

[TonyMontana]

Nice, I like it.

Looks like Howard will be good enough to keep the Lakers away from Wiggins, but not good enough to make them relevant.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[BasedTom]

Didn't Broussard report the exact opposite of this a few days ago?

So much for his wonderful sources

[ispin69]

Woj:

@WojYahooNBA: Source on Kobe Bryant's message to Dwight Howard in Lakers meeting: "Straight forward. He talked about winning mostly."


That's all I'm seeing now

:lol Cause they won so much last year with all those losing streaks. They can downplay the beef with playful pictures all they want but everyone knows who Kobe and their fans blamed (other than crying injuries).

[jzek]

Not from Woj so I'll take this with a grain of salt.

[rezznor]

Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen

D'Antoni:'The Lakers put on a great presentation. You do what you have to do. Dwight will make his decision."

[rezznor]

Lakers Nation @LakersNation

Easily the shortest meeting of all teams so far - Lakers & Dwight.

[rezznor]

Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne

Nash: "i thought it was a very productive meeting. We talked about last year and how it can be built on"

dwight: "it was a nightmare season" :oldlol:

[kobeef24]

I really hope this is true. We need him to attract other stars in 2014.

[rezznor]

Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina

Dwight left the building. He said "I had a lot of great meetings" before driving off.
6:20 PM - 2 Jul 2013

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

https://twitter.com/EricLadin/status/352213618395316225/photo/1

[K Xerxes]

This crap has gone on for too long. The media, Dwight and all the teams involved are milking this for some reason. I expect published manuscripts of the exact conversations from Dwight's agent soon. :facepalm

What a clown this guy is.

[oh the horror]

I'm B4 he turns around tomorrow and signs with Golden State or some shit.



I take everything coming from this dude with a grain of salt.

[Haymaker]

Kobe is injured, Pau will never stay 100% healthy, Nash is old and injured, Metta has bad knees. What could possibly entice Howard to sign with LA apart of money and fame?

[rezznor]

Guess the meeting b/w @DwightHoward & @Lakers didn't go well. Billboards are coming down pic.twitter.com/KDsYNa6Zaf
6:54 PM - 2 Jul 2013

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BONQa3oCAAIA6Zb.jpg

[IGOTGAME]

Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen

D'Antoni:'The Lakers put on a great presentation. You do what you have to do. Dwight will make his decision."

I'm hurts me everytime I think of DAntoni being the coach.

[SpecialQue]

Guess the meeting b/w @DwightHoward & @Lakers didn't go well. Billboards are coming down pic.twitter.com/KDsYNa6Zaf
6:54 PM - 2 Jul 2013

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BONQa3oCAAIA6Zb.jpg


:lebronamazed:

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Kobe is injured, Pau will never stay 100% healthy, Nash is old and injured, Metta has bad knees. What could possibly entice Howard to sign with LA apart of money and fame?
all them guys coming off the books next year. pay attention.

[PickernRoller]

I'm hurts me everytime I think of DAntoni being the coach.

But you know who's really at fault here....

[LosScandalous]

Kobe is injured, Pau will never stay 100% healthy, Nash is old and injured, Metta has bad knees. What could possibly entice Howard to sign with LA apart of money and fame?

LA is the best city in the world, fact and The Lakers have one of the best front office in the NBA so he can think about what the future holds.

[ispin69]

Kobe is injured, Pau will never stay 100% healthy, Nash is old and injured, Metta has bad knees. What could possibly entice Howard to sign with LA apart of money and fame?

Dat ether. Dwight would be the laughing stock of the league.

[TrueRob]

Dwight can't leave. The Lakers made him an offer he can't refuse. :pimp:

[MVBallin2K]

I don't like the sounds of reports of this meeting being short. I may be wrong but between it being short, Kobe focusing completely on winning and not about chemistry issues (at least from reports) and Dwight saying he had a lot of great meetings, I don't feel this overly positive vibe that Dwight is going to re-sign. I expected this to be a grand presentation with the desperation factor and maybe it was but it sure doesn't sound like it outside of Lakers staff.

[EnoughSaid]

Noooooooooooo. Tired of Lakers getting all the shit. Go to Houston!

[SpecialQue]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 11m

Dwight Howard is leaving California for a few days to mull his free agency choice, league sources tell Y! Sports.

:coleman:

[NASH = BEST]

If Dwight stays with the Lakers then I think Gasol gets amnestied or traded.

Sucks for my boy Nash cause I truly believe the Lakers are a better team with Nash, Kobe, and Gasol at center over Howard at center.

[daily]

I don't like the sounds of reports of this meeting being short. I may be wrong but between it being short, Kobe focusing completely on winning and not about chemistry issues (at least from reports) and Dwight saying he had a lot of great meetings, I don't feel this overly positive vibe that Dwight is going to re-sign. I expected this to be a grand presentation with the desperation factor and maybe it was but it sure doesn't sound like it outside of Lakers staff.The Lakers have had full access to Howard since the end of the season. This wasn't their first meeting

[ShaqAttack3234]

Like other posters, I also don't see why he'd choose LA at this point. D'Antoni is not a good coach and he clearly doesn't like playing for him, plus he's on an old team that only won 45 games last season.

The 2014 Lakers don't look like championship contenders since Nash will be 40 and has had injuries as you'd expect at that age, Kobe will be 35 and coming off the achilles injury, both entering their 18th seasons, Gasol is 33, has clearly declined the last few years, wasn't healthy last year and isn't a natural fit with Howard and even Metta will be 34 and also wasn't healthy.

Sure there's the fact that the Lakers will have cap space, and a history of putting together contending teams and championship teams, but there's no guarantee and does Dwight want to waste another year? I mean this is the same guy who couldn't even wait until after the 2012 season when he was in the final year of his deal.

Houston seems like the logical choice.

[SpecialQue]

The Lakers have had full access to Howard since the end of the season. This wasn't their first meeting

The billboards immediately coming down is more telling than the length of the meeting.

[BasedTom]

LA is the best city in the world, fact and The Lakers have one of the best front office in the NBA so he can think about what the future holds.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[rezznor]

LA is the best city in the world, fact and The Lakers have one of the best front office in the NBA so he can think about what the future holds.
you must not travel much.

[EnoughSaid]

Ehh from my team's standpoint, I'm not worried about the Lakers or the West in general. Only real worries are Indiana and Chicago, but if Miami gets a big guy or two, then I'm not sweating.

[crisoner]

ALL RUMORS

With Dwight you NEVER KNOW.

[ispin69]

Why would he leave to make a decision? If he plans to stay he would stay in LA and re-sign already or at least stay here until he's made the decision --- then leave for a vacation. Then again he's already had plenty of vacation time since the first round exit. Sounds like an excuse to go to one of the other destinations, check out their facilities, look for a new home, have dinner with some of the players wooing him over to their team.

[crisoner]

If Howard does stay all these Laker fans pissed at him will change their tune real quick. Just watch.

[ispin69]

If Howard does stay all these Laker fans pissed at him will change their tune real quick. Just watch.

I would imagine it would be max contract and a long term deal. They would abandon nutriding Kobe cause he's gonna retire in a few years and welcome their new franchise player. :lol

[Bosnian Sajo]

If Howard does stay all these Laker fans pissed at him will change their tune real quick. Just watch.

What makes you think that? Most of us who are pissed at him is a result of his horrible play last season, unless he does a total 180 and becomes the Dwight of the old Magic days, we will forever rue this signing. Stats are not everything boys and girls, don't let his from last season fool you.

[Rondo]

When healthy he's incredible. Good news for the Lakers if true.

[jzek]

https://twitter.com/EricLadin/status/352213618395316225/photo/1

Yes!!! :bowdown:

[Rondo]

Yes!!! :bowdown:

His logic is pretty stupid.

The billboards could be coming down because he's agreed to sign with them...

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

What makes you think that? Most of us who are pissed at him is a result of his horrible play last season, unless he does a total 180 and becomes the Dwight of the old Magic days, we will forever rue this signing. Stats are not everything boys and girls, don't let his from last season fool you.
Lakers need to tank if they lose Dwight. Make Kobe sit out the season without amnestying him. I can't see Lakers tanking mainly because Kobe can will them to an 8th seed. Add that all up, losing Dwight sets back the franchise a few years, maybe longer.

[SpecialQue]

His logic is pretty stupid.

The billboards could be coming down because he's agreed to sign with them...

:lebronamazed:

[YAWN]

ugh, i hope he doesn't get a no trade clause..

[Legends66NBA7]

Dwight would be the laughing stock of the league.

He already is.

[D-Rose]

Mods can we change the title or something? People are actually believing this as true...when in reality it's some random journo and no one else has confirmed it at all. A lot of peeps in here being confused by it.

[SoCalLakersFan1]

Would be nice if true, but Chris Palmer is an idiot and I don't believe anything he says.

[kennethgriffin]

i don't want howard here. but signing him long term is a great bonus and a win/win situation since if it doesnt work out they can flip him for pretty much anyone in the nba


so either the lakers win titles or get someone like andrew wiggins or kyrie erving in a few years


lakers will be be contenders no matter what for the next decade

[TheWalkman]

The billboard at that point said "STAYs" and "STAYD"

Interesting, if nothing but a coincidence.

[kobeef24]

What makes you think that? Most of us who are pissed at him is a result of his horrible play last season, unless he does a total 180 and becomes the Dwight of the old Magic days, we will forever rue this signing. Stats are not everything boys and girls, don't let his from last season fool you.

Dwight was coming off injury last season. I expect him to come back healthier and stronger next season. If he signs with another team he's going to put up good numbers and everyone's going to regret writing him off. The Lakers need him, otherwise we'll be rebuilding for a bit even with a good draft pick in 2014 since that player will need to develop.

[kennethgriffin]

i hope to god we can flip him for andrew wiggins and filler


praying to god on this one.. and i'm an atheist

[crisoner]

What makes you think that? Most of us who are pissed at him is a result of his horrible play last season, unless he does a total 180 and becomes the Dwight of the old Magic days, we will forever rue this signing. Stats are not everything boys and girls, don't let his from last season fool you.

I'm not happy with the way the season as well. But to not want him back at all is dumb. I think we will be fine if he leaves...but come on we will be in it to win it all the next couple of years if we keep him and add.

[TheBigVeto]

If he signs with the Lakers and destroys them from inside, it would be a great thing.

But really, it's a stupid move for him. Like I said before, centers don't get respect in LA. All respect go to the 'tards favorites (Kobe, Magic). But centers do get respect in Houston - Dwight should go there if he's interested in respect and legacy.

[KyleKong]

If Dwight stays in L.A. not only will the team suffer but so will his legacy.

Dwight is the best center in the NBA and MDT runs an offense that has little to no love for big men.

[bagelred]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 3m

Sources close to Dwight Howard insist the Charlotte Bobcats are current frontrunners to get him.



:wtf:

[MVBallin2K]

If he signs with the Lakers and destroys them from inside, it would be a great thing.

But really, it's a stupid move for him. Like I said before, centers don't get respect in LA. All respect go to the 'tards favorites (Kobe, Magic). But centers do get respect in Houston - Dwight should go there if he's interested in respect and legacy.

Yeah, you're right. It's not like Shaq gets any respect for what he brought to LA :facepalm

[daily]

Yeah, you're right. It's not like Shaq gets any respect for what he brought to LA :facepalm

I know and all Kareem got was a lousy statue and season long going away party.


Wilt had his jersey retired but he pissed LA off when he left, took sometime for people to come around. Mater of fact it was Buss who retired Wilts Jersey, not Jack Kent Cooke who was probably still angry at Wilt when he died.

[BlazerRed]

:wtf:
:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

[wakencdukest]

If he signs with the Lakers and destroys them from inside, it would be a great thing.

But really, it's a stupid move for him. Like I said before, centers don't get respect in LA. All respect go to the 'tards favorites (Kobe, Magic). But centers do get respect in Houston - Dwight should go there if he's interested in respect and legacy.



The fact that you've said this more than once is evidence that you are the dumbest Motherf*#ker on ISH.

[alanLA92]

Good if they can re-sign him, that way FA next year will be attracted to come to the Lakers. Or else it's rebuilding time.

[talkingconch]

Good if they can re-sign him, that way FA next year will be attracted to come to the Lakers. Or else it's rebuilding time.
this was probably what was pitched to him during the meeting. That and a Gasol amnesty or trade (for perimeter probably) to relieve things for the upcoming season. i don't expect us to do much this upcoming season (unless we somehow load up again with Howard). 2014-15 season is what im curious to see

[kenuffff]

d'anotini isn't going to change his system, that fool thinks he can actually win a championship like that so i really don't see why dwight would stay if he was serious about winning rings.

[daily]

Personally I think it's still up in the air where he goes. So far this weeks we've heard Houston was the favorites from a Houston based beat writer, Dallas got the nod from a Dallas sports writer and now LA. ALL quoted sources close to Howard.

[daily]

d'anotini isn't going to change his system, that fool thinks he can actually win a championship like that so i really don't see why dwight would stay if he was serious about winning rings.
D'Antoni already did change his system during the season as Howard became healthier and was able to carry more of the load.

Lakers went 30-12 in second half of the season despite having to install a turnstile at the trainers table

[talkingconch]

D'Antoni already did change his system during the season as Howard became healthier and was able to carry more of the load.

Lakers went 30-12 in second half of the season despite having to install a turnstile at the trainers table

This. still not a fan of dantoni tho

[daily]

This. still not a fan of dantoni thoI'm not either but it can work if everyone is on the same page. It's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. He was Kobe's choice for Brown's replacement

Coach K like Kobe loves D'Antoni, turned team USA's offense over to D'Antoni for a reason.

[TheBigVeto]

The fact that you've said this more than once is evidence that you are the dumbest Motherf*#ker on ISH.

You must be one of the 'tards.

[Lakers Legend#32]

MDT will get fired soon enough. All Dwight has to do is wait him out and the team will be built around him.

[buddha]

D'Antoni already did change his system during the season as Howard became healthier and was able to carry more of the load.

Lakers went 30-12 in second half of the season despite having to install a turnstile at the trainers table

they went 30-12 thanks to the refs.

[disel]

lool not one legit person has confirmed this clown Palmers supposed fact.

[WayOfWade]

I feel like the Lakers are screwed either way.

[nevetslc88]

they went 30-12 thanks to the refs.

Thanks refs :cheers:

[All Net]

Palmer is the only one saying this...

[talkingconch]

Looks like we'll know this Friday

https://twitter.com/LakersNation/status/352297386162397184


Dwight Howard's decision will reportedly be made this Friday, July 5th. And so we wait.

inb4 Decision Part II

[Shade8780]

Looks like we'll know this Friday

https://twitter.com/LakersNation/status/352297386162397184



inb4 Decision Part II
He's staying in LA.

[wakencdukest]

You must be one of the 'tards.


Your mother's a retard.

[Magic 32]

they went 30-12 thanks to the refs.


http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lim02wyP3r1qz7lxdo1_500.gif

[NBASTATMAN]

they went 30-12 thanks to the refs.
:applause:

[chosen_wun]

Laker fans will grow to like Howard, just like Knick fans stopped bashing Melo once the team started winning. (in the regular season)

[3peated]

I think with the time off D'Antoni has had, he can create an offense that works for Howard. He was thrown into the team and didn't really have much time to prepare. This season will be teh true testament if Dantoni is a good offensive coach / coach at all like some think, or if he truly is a garbage coach who just knows how to make PGs look good.

i personally don't like him, but we'll see.

[rezznor]

In the hours after Dwight Howard listened to the final pledges and pitches out of Kobe Bryant and Mitch Kupchak, Dirk Nowitzki and Mark Cuban, the most recruited basketball star on the planet promises to be 30,000 feet in the air, flying to a retreat outside California to consider the possibilities of his free-agent decision.

Soon, Howard will make a choice on where he'll sign his free-agent contract, and three years of stops and starts, indecision and insecurities, will finally leave him with his own choice, his own consequences on his career.

Dwight Howard met with five teams during his free-agent courtship. (USA Today Sports)The Los Angeles Lakers and the Dallas Mavericks were the final two teams to make presentations to Howard and his representatives on Tuesday, five teams marching into a room and selling visions to the franchise center. Golden State, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston and Los Angeles were invited to make bids for Howard.

The Rockets remain frontrunners for Howard, but Howard is still giving consideration to remaining with the Los Angeles Lakers, sources said.

"The Rockets have put themselves in position to pull this off," one source with knowledge of Howard's decision-making process said. "If he wants to win right now – and be set up to keep winning – it's hard to make a case for anyone but Houston."

Howard planned to climb aboard a private plane with his representatives in the Relativity Sports Group – Dan Fegan and Happy Walters – and leave Los Angeles for the solitude of the outdoors these next few days, sources told Y! Sports.

There could be a decision by Friday, or perhaps Howard could let it bleed into the weekend. Whatever he chooses promises to have an immense impact on the NBA – from the glorious Lakers franchise, to the final years of Kobe Bryant's career, to the transformation of the Rockets into an NBA power again.

For now, Howard will leave the frenzy of Los Angeles and disappear into the quiet several states away. When he returns back to his mansion in the hills, he'll be considered a conquering hero or something far, far less in Southern California. This is the moment that Howard's been pursuing for several years, back to his Orlando Magic days, and it's finally here: sweet freedom and choice. Only everything hangs upon in it in this NBA.

-per woj this morning

[chazzy]

Palmer is one of the worst NBA writers in the game, can't take him seriously

[rhythmic]

-per woj this morning

:roll: At this stupidiity.
Houston? Really?!
Do you people seriously ****ing believe that Harden, Howard, Lin & Parson will ever win a title. My god. :facepalm They might win 50+ games and maybe reach the WCF but that team is no where near the current healthy Laker squad (Gasol, Nash, Bryant & Howard). People love to overreact and pretend like LA are done because they were injured all year, but they still managed to do better then Houston last season. :oldlol: Despite having every single player on their roster go down with an injury at some point. Plus they somehow finished the year 28-12 while still missing key players during that stretch. Howard would be an absolute idiot to pick Houston over LA for his future, especially with all the financial flexibility LA will have in 2014. They still have a damn good team if they can stay healthy, far moer talented then what Houston currently has. People seriously are losing perspective here...

I really could care less at this point about what he does. I like him as a player and would like if he stayed; but he's an attention seeking drama queen. If he doesn't want to be with us, then get lost.

We don't beg, teams like Houston do.

[Bandito]

Laker fans will grow to like Howard, just like Knick fans stopped bashing Melo once the team started winning. (in the regular season)
Dwight might be a whiny ho but he's not the problem, is the coach. Same thing happened in the Knicks 2011 and after the coach left everyone started to love Melo again.

[Bandito]

If he signs with the Lakers and destroys them from inside, it would be a great thing.

But really, it's a stupid move for him. Like I said before, centers don't get respect in LA. All respect go to the 'tards favorites (Kobe, Magic). But centers do get respect in Houston - Dwight should go there if he's interested in respect and legacy.
Man why do you hate the Lakers so much? I thought it was Kobe but you seriously hate the Lakers. Did they rape you or something?

[spiegel]

Acording to Worji is a line ball maybe with the Rockets slightly ahead. I don't know this Chris Palmer chap, but I sure as hell trust Worji over any other Insider.

[LA Lakers]

He going to Montana to meet with Phil?

[rezznor]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[9erempiree]

Man why do you hate the Lakers so much? I thought it was Kobe but you seriously hate the Lakers. Did they rape you or something?

yes, he did.

[Funnyfuka]

The funny is that wether he stays or leave, lakers are not a contender for a chip for a long, long time. Kobe is toast, gasoft softer than ever and not caring anymore... howard will never improve, turn into a leader... they just want him so people keeps injecting money in the franchise and products...

All of this is a complete joke. It s about time the economic collapse happen so all these stupidities stop. These morons are way overpaid, and the more they re paid, the less they produce / are interesting to watch.

[hawkfan]

Will Howard take all summer to decide?

[crisoner]

The funny is that wether he stays or leave, lakers are not a contender for a chip for a long, long time. Kobe is toast, gasoft softer than ever and not caring anymore... howard will never improve, turn into a leader... they just want him so people keeps injecting money in the franchise and products...

All of this is a complete joke. It s about time the economic collapse happen so all these stupidities stop. These morons are way overpaid, and the more they re paid, the less they produce / are interesting to watch.

I guess you have no idea that the Lakers have only Nash on the books in 2014.
And that the free agent market in 2014 includes the like of Paul George, LeBron, John Wall etc.

Stupid LeBron generation kids.

[PJR]

I guess you have no idea that the Lakers have only Nash on the books in 2014.
And that the free agent market in 2014 includes the like of Paul George, LeBron, John Wall etc.

Stupid LeBron generation kids.

I guess you have no idea that John Wall and Paul George will be restricted free agents in 2014. And that there isn't a chance in hell LeBron is signing with the Lakers.

Stupid Kobe generation kids.

[crisoner]

I guess you have no idea that John Wall and Paul George will be restricted free agents in 2014. And that there isn't a chance in hell LeBron is signing with the Lakers.

Stupid Kobe generation kids.

Really no chance in hell for LeBron...Mister I want to be the first player to make 1 billion? Take a look at the list of player in 2014.

Lakers will pull them like they always do.

[Legends66NBA7]

And that there isn't a chance in hell LeBron is signing with the Lakers.

Off course he would. If the Lakers have the cap room, as well as any other team in 2014, James has to at least listen to the offers. Don't see why he wouldn't if the deal is right.

[Funnyfuka]

I guess you have no idea that the Lakers have only Nash on the books in 2014.
And that the free agent market in 2014 includes the like of Paul George, LeBron, John Wall etc.

Stupid LeBron generation kids.


the **** are you talking about, everything I said is true. Wether he stays or leave, lakers arent winning a chip anytime soon, that's a fact. Kobe has had a carrer ending injury even if he comes back he ll be lucky to be 50% of what he was pre injury. It can only get worse from now on, nothing beats time, ask celtics.
Lebron leaving miami? are you retarded or something?

[PJR]

I love how Laker fans continue to push the 2014 cap flexibility as if it's guaranteed to materialize into any thing.

After Miami's big three, which ofcourse will all be re-upping in Miami, the list of unrestricted free agent sucks ass.

The new CBA is ****ing the Lakers in the ass with no lubricant right now. :oldlol:

[PJR]

Really no chance in hell for LeBron...Mister I want to be the first player to make 1 billion? Take a look at the list of player in 2014.

Lakers will pull them like they always do.

LeBron is going to leave Miami, Pat Riley & Micky Arison for the Lakers who are ran by Jim Buss aka Fredo?

:roll: :roll:

Get real.

[tpols]

I love how Laker fans continue to push the 2014 cap flexibility as if it's guaranteed to materialize into any thing.

After Miami's big three, which ofcourse will all be re-upping in Miami, the list of unrestricted free agent sucks ass.

The new CBA is ****ing the Lakers in the ass with no lubricant right now. :oldlol:
:oldlol: at you trusting Lebron's loyalty.

Dude took a dump on his own hometown, anythings possible

[PJR]

Off course he would. If the Lakers have the cap room, as well as any other team in 2014, James has to at least listen to the offers. Don't see why he wouldn't if the deal is right.

What in the world makes you think LeBron is leaving Miami? And do you have any idea of the economics within the new CBA? Because anyone who does knows the likelihood of LeBron going to the Lakers is slim to none.

[PJR]

:oldlol: at you trusting Lebron's loyalty.

Dude took a dump on his own hometown, anythings possible

Um, I trust Pat Riley. I also trust these back to back titles that the Heat provided the platform for LeBron to accomplish such.

And Cleveland isn't LeBron's hometown. Nor did he ever CHOSE to play there. LeBron CHOSE to play in Miami.

[DJ Leon Smith]

LeBron is going to leave Miami, Pat Riley & Micky Arison for the Lakers who are ran by Jim Buss aka Fredo?

:roll: :roll:

Get real.

You're right. The Lakers don't have enough help for LeBron to leave.

He needs someone to bail him out for when Jason Terry outscores him in the NBA Finals.

[OG LeeTSkeeT]

Whatever happens, Lakers are still doomed cause MDT is still coach. If Dwight resigns...then Kobe says he might play 3 more seasons so he'll get a new deal, not sure if it'll be a max or just like Iggy numbers. Overall I just hope they can get Wigguns if not rebuild with Dwight and free agency in 14' with Kobe, Pau, Metta, maybe Nash off the books.

[PJR]

You're right. The Lakers don't have enough help for LeBron to leave.

He needs someone to bail him out for when Jason Terry outscores him in the NBA Finals.

That's all you got sucka? You gotta come harder than that.

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[DJ Leon Smith]

That's all you got sucka? You gotta come harder than that.

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What do you mean is that all I've got? Name one other GOAT candidate who was outscored by a bench player in his second NBA Finals?

I'm waiting.

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Thank you.

[DJ Leon Smith]

PJR I'm waiting. Thank you sir.

[alanLA92]

Um, I trust Pat Riley. I also trust these back to back titles that the Heat provided the platform for LeBron to accomplish such.

And Cleveland isn't LeBron's hometown. Nor did he ever CHOSE to play there. LeBron CHOSE to play in Miami.

Yeah like players NEVER leave teams that provided them titles. That has NEVER happened. :lol

[Ne 1]

Um, I trust Pat Riley. I also trust these back to back titles that the Heat provided the platform for LeBron to accomplish such.

And Cleveland isn't LeBron's hometown. Nor did he ever CHOSE to play there. LeBron CHOSE to play in Miami.

Then why did he play himself up as a hometown hero to the fan base?

[DJ Leon Smith]

Still waiting for PJR.

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[PJR]

PJR I'm waiting. Thank you sir.



Name me another "GOAT candidate" that had 4 League MVP's and won back to back Finals MVPs by the time he was 28.




Then why did he play himself up as a hometown hero to the fan base?

Chalk that up to being young and na

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Pjr is a fraud. It's easy to talk shit when you switch teams every couple years.

[schyza]

Basketball is a business and as much as people like to say that Kobe ran Shaq out of LA I think the Lakers brass saw an aging Shaq and a young Kobe. They wanted Kobe to resign so they didn't offer Shaq a max extension knowing he would most likely demand a trade which he did and Kobe resigned. I think if Howard comes back it

[DJ Leon Smith]

[QUOTE=PJR]Name me another "GOAT candidate" that had 4 League MVP's and won back to back Finals MVPs by the time he was 28.





Chalk that up to being young and na

[TonyMontana]

Name me another MVP who left his team in his prime as a free agent to team up with an NBA Finals MVP in his prime.

You can't because it had never happened before.

We can play this game all day.

P.S. Name another GOAT candidate who was outscored by an opposition bench player in the NBA Finals.

Was Jordan outscored by Danny Ainge? No.

Was Magic outscored by ML Carr? No.

Was Kobe outscored by Leon Powe? No.

Was Shaq outscored by Antonio Davis? No.

Was Hakeem outscored by Herb Williams? No.

Was Tim Duncan outscored by Darvin Ham? No.

Was Paul Pierce outscored by Jordan Farmar? No.

Was Dwyane Wade outscored by Marquis Daniels? No.

Was LeBron outscored by Jason Terry?

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BONUS ROUND. Was LeBron also outscored by his own teammate Chris Bosh?

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Good night xoxo.

(Yep, you're mad.)

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Back to back titles. You are mad.

[DJ Leon Smith]

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Back to back titles. You are mad.

Thank you for ignoring questions/proving points.

[TheCalmInsanity]

Name me another MVP who left his team in his prime as a free agent to team up with an NBA Finals MVP in his prime.

You can't because it had never happened before.

We can play this game all day.

P.S. Name another GOAT candidate who was outscored by an opposition bench player in the NBA Finals.

Was Jordan outscored by Danny Ainge? No.

Was Magic outscored by ML Carr? No.

Was Kobe outscored by Leon Powe? No.

Was Shaq outscored by Antonio Davis? No.

Was Hakeem outscored by Herb Williams? No.

Was Tim Duncan outscored by Darvin Ham? No.

Was Paul Pierce outscored by Jordan Farmar? No.

Was Dwyane Wade outscored by Marquis Daniels? No.

Was LeBron outscored by Jason Terry?

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BONUS ROUND. Was LeBron also outscored by his own teammate Chris Bosh?

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Good night xoxo.

(Yep, you're mad.)

Wait, I don't understand this (and no, I'm not a Heat fan. I'm a Clipper fan).

What does being outscored by someone have to do with anything? Who the hell cares, he's been in the last 3 NBA finals. Terry is known to have random great games. He's a sparkplug off the bench. What was more important was the win that the Mavericks had. I don't think any of them (Terry included) give a flying fcuk what the dumb little things like that were. If they had lost that game, I guarantee you there would be bigger things to worry about than who outscored Lebron.

Everyone has off nights. Kobe was 6-27 in game 7 of the NBA finals and had to get carried by Gasol. Yet Kobe fans insist it didn't happen, like a secret genocide denial. It's completely erased from their brains. Chris Bosh scored 0 (that's right, 0) points in the finals clincher this year. Yet the more important thing is they won the championship.

Bottom line is, it's so funny that people bring up stats while other people have championship wins in their argument. Especially Lakers fans, who have LIVED on the argument (it's been their bread and butter) about how Kobe has 5 championships and the Lakers have 16 championships and blah blah blah.

[DJ Leon Smith]

I can't stand Kobe but his performance in 2010 was nothing like LeBron in 2011. And if you're comparing Bosh's impact to LeBron's, then you've just proven my point.

[TheCalmInsanity]

I can't stand Kobe but his performance in 2010 was nothing like LeBron in 2011. And if you're comparing Bosh's impact to LeBron's, then you've just proven my point.

I'm saying why bring it up? There's absolutely no point. Personal stats are meaningless. He's been in the finals the last 3 years... That's the important "stat".

I'm no Heat fan at all but I'm not a hater either, I see it how it is from outside the bubble. Just being honest, seems you're going out of your own way to find something to criticize him for.

[Doranku]

Wait, I don't understand this (and no, I'm not a Heat fan. I'm a Clipper fan).

What does being outscored by someone have to do with anything? Who the hell cares, he's been in the last 3 NBA finals. Terry is known to have random great games. He's a sparkplug off the bench. What was more important was the win that the Mavericks had. I don't think any of them (Terry included) give a flying fcuk what the dumb little things like that were. If they had lost that game, I guarantee you there would be bigger things to worry about than who outscored Lebron.

Everyone has off nights. Kobe was 6-27 in game 7 of the NBA finals and had to get carried by Gasol. Yet Kobe fans insist it didn't happen, like a secret genocide denial. It's completely erased from their brains. Chris Bosh scored 0 (that's right, 0) points in the finals clincher this year. Yet the more important thing is they won the championship.

Bottom line is, it's so funny that people bring up stats while other people have championship wins in their argument. Especially Lakers fans, who have LIVED on the argument (it's been their bread and butter) about how Kobe has 5 championships and the Lakers have 16 championships and blah blah blah.

Wait, are you really trying to defend Bron being outscored by JASON F*CKING TERRY in a 6 game finals series?!? :roll:

Also, Kobe was 6-24. Pau was 6-17, which is just as bad considering he's a 7 foot big. Pau had 18 rebounds, but Kobe had 15 of his own. Pau certainly didn't carry anyone in that game. If anyone "carried" someone, it was MWP. He was HUGE and by far the best player of the game.

Yeah, Bron has been in the finals the last 3 years. You know why? Because he's a puzzy who paired up with (at the time) the 2nd best player in the world and another top 10 player.

Not to mention, the competition in the East is a JOKE. The best team they've played were the old ass Celtics on their last legs in '12.

I mean just look at the other teams, especially this year. Zero 50 win teams this year. The Brandon Jennings led Bucks and the Nate Robinson led Bulls in the first two rounds. :roll:

Then we have the trash 76ers in the first round of '11, Wade taking out Rondo in '11 against the Celtics, and the Derrick Rose led (we've seen his true character come out following his injury) Bulls.

The only other team that's even respectable that they beat were the Pacers last year and this year, and they weren't that great last year and nothing special for a Conference Finals opponent this year.

This is on top of the fact that they're easily the most STACKED team in the Conference. It's simply not impressive that they've made three straight finals when you take all of this into account. It should just be expected.

[2010splash]

I come into this thread expecting to read about the latest gossip involving Dwight to *insert name of random team* from one of the countless unreliable "sources" of ESPN, Yahoo, CBS, etc and I end up reading about LeBron and Kobe? WTF.

Anyway, on the subject of Kobe/LeBron, there is simply no comparison anymore, not that I even believe there ever was one. When ranking anything, something is either better or worse than something else. In basketball, a player is either better than another player or he is worse.

LeBron and Kobe played in the same league together when Kobe bore witness to LeBron grabbing 4 MVPs in 5 seasons in near unanimous landslides. That means, at the very LEAST, the followers of this sport felt that LeBron was head and shoulders above his competition in 4 separate seasons. On the other hand, Kobe's only won this honor once in his career.

Then you have the fact that LeBron needed much less help than Kobe to win his rings. Kobe had the support of prime O'Neal, a rebounding menace of a frontline of Odom/Gasol/Bynum, and one of the most ridiculously stacked teams in history in Nash/Gasol/Howard (and led them to a 7th seed + first round exit). LeBron led a struggling and/or injured Wade and Bosh who respectively averaged 16/5/5/49.8 TS% and 12/7/2/52.4 TS% in the playoffs all the way to the title. Not to mention LeBron is immeasurably better on defense.

LeBron is probably one of the 2-3 most dominant players to ever live. Kobe is anywhere from the 11th to 15th most dominant player ever.

[2010splash]

And as for LeBron leaving for LA in 2014... :oldlol: :roll:

Almost as funny as the idea that he's going back to Cleveland. Where do you guys come up with this? Too funny. LeBron and the Heat have ruled the East in the only 3 seasons he has been in Miami. They've won 2 straight titles and have the opportunity to win several more. Why the shiet would he leave a dynasty with his two Olympic buddies to go back to the dump 20-win team he already left (Cavs) or a dysfunctional non-contender (Lakers)? There's nowhere for him to go. Miami his easily is best and only option.

[Doranku]

Unfortunately 2010splash, nobody cares what a bandwagon, flip flopping f@ggot like yourself has to say.

[2010splash]

Unfortunately 2010splash, nobody cares what a bandwagon, flip flopping f@ggot like yourself has to say.
Obviously you cared enough to respond and I've clearly struck a nerve. Didn't mean to offend you, but it's not my fault the truth hurts your feelings. :cry:

[Droid101]

Unfortunately 2010splash, nobody cares what a bandwagon, flip flopping f@ggot like yourself has to say.
:applause:

[branslowski]

So Bynum (who isn't even on a team) and Odom (who hasn't been talked about since he left the Lakers) are considered stacked, while playing with Wade and Bosh isn't considered stacked? 2010splash, I know u trolling, but it got from being entertaining to being legally retarded and unbearable to read.

By ur MVP logic, Steve Nash (2 mvps) meant he was more dominant than Shaq with 1?..anyway, nvm...ignored.

[branslowski]

Name me another MVP who left his team in his prime as a free agent to team up with an NBA Finals MVP in his prime.

You can't because it had never happened before.

We can play this game all day.

P.S. Name another GOAT candidate who was outscored by an opposition bench player in the NBA Finals.

Was Jordan outscored by Danny Ainge? No.

Was Magic outscored by ML Carr? No.

Was Kobe outscored by Leon Powe? No.

Was Shaq outscored by Antonio Davis? No.

Was Hakeem outscored by Herb Williams? No.

Was Tim Duncan outscored by Darvin Ham? No.

Was Paul Pierce outscored by Jordan Farmar? No.

Was Dwyane Wade outscored by Marquis Daniels? No.

Was LeBron outscored by Jason Terry?

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BONUS ROUND. Was LeBron also outscored by his own teammate Chris Bosh?

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Good night xoxo.

(Yep, you're mad.)

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[TheCalmInsanity]

Wait, are you really trying to defend Bron being outscored by JASON F*CKING TERRY in a 6 game finals series?!? :roll:

Also, Kobe was 6-24. Pau was 6-17, which is just as bad considering he's a 7 foot big. Pau had 18 rebounds, but Kobe had 15 of his own. Pau certainly didn't carry anyone in that game. If anyone "carried" someone, it was MWP. He was HUGE and by far the best player of the game.

Yeah, Bron has been in the finals the last 3 years. You know why? Because he's a puzzy who paired up with (at the time) the 2nd best player in the world and another top 10 player.

Not to mention, the competition in the East is a JOKE. The best team they've played were the old ass Celtics on their last legs in '12.

I mean just look at the other teams, especially this year. Zero 50 win teams this year. The Brandon Jennings led Bucks and the Nate Robinson led Bulls in the first two rounds. :roll:

Then we have the trash 76ers in the first round of '11, Wade taking out Rondo in '11 against the Celtics, and the Derrick Rose led (we've seen his true character come out following his injury) Bulls.

The only other team that's even respectable that they beat were the Pacers last year and this year, and they weren't that great last year and nothing special for a Conference Finals opponent this year.

This is on top of the fact that they're easily the most STACKED team in the Conference. It's simply not impressive that they've made three straight finals when you take all of this into account. It should just be expected.

Yes you're damn right I am. just because LeBron is known as a good player doesn't mean he's expected to outscore every single other person on the court and benches 100% of the games he plays. So he got outscored by Jason Terry. Who cares? He's had 3 conference championships and two championships in the last 3 years. Not to mention 4 mvps. And seeing all that, you still dare to bring up stupid stats (not just stats, a SINGLE STAT, scoring)? Funnier thing is, what's you're sample size for LeBron getting outscored by Terry? Care to compare their scoring totals season by season? Or career? Or do you want to just lice in that tiny space in time?

I should find a quarter in a Laker game where a scrub scores more than Kobe, and then laugh about how Kobe got outscored in those 12 minutes.

First it was ”he has no rings”. Now you ignore his rings and devalue them, and bring up a stupid meaningless stat about getting outscored? Isn't basketball a competition? Terry had a great series, Lebron had a bad one. So focusing on the one thing you are grasping for straws for and look at the long term and real accomplishments.

Again, I'm not a heat fan. I'm a proud Clippers fan but it annoys me the length these Laker fans go to desperately find things to bring Lebron down so they can deny and lie to themselves that someone is not going to be better than their hero. Its like when children make excuses to convince themselves Santa exists.

[2010splash]

So Bynum (who isn't even on a team) and Odom (who hasn't been talked about since he left the Lakers) are considered stacked, while playing with Wade and Bosh isn't considered stacked? 2010splash, I know u trolling, but it got from being entertaining to being legally retarded and unbearable to read.

By ur MVP logic, Steve Nash (2 mvps) meant he was more dominant than Shaq with 1?..anyway, nvm...ignored.
Preaching the truth = trolling nowadays? :wtf:

I already posted the pedestrian numbers of Wade and Bosh in the playoffs this year. If 16/5/5 and 12/7 on terrible efficiency is "stacked" to you, then you are beyond help.

Nash was never the consensus best player when he won his MVPs and there was always some discord with his MVP selections. Furthermore, there's a huge difference between 2 MVPs and 4 MVPs anyway. AND Kobe wasn't even the runaway best player when he won his ONLY MVP. LeBron and Wade both were better but didn't get any votes because their teams sucked. Nobody in their right mind disputed LeBron's FOUR MVP selections. It was so obvious he was supposed to win all FOUR of those years. Sorry, but those are the facts.

[DMAVS41]

So Bynum (who isn't even on a team) and Odom (who hasn't been talked about since he left the Lakers) are considered stacked, while playing with Wade and Bosh isn't considered stacked? 2010splash, I know u trolling, but it got from being entertaining to being legally retarded and unbearable to read.

By ur MVP logic, Steve Nash (2 mvps) meant he was more dominant than Shaq with 1?..anyway, nvm...ignored.

What Odom or any player from the 09 and 10 Lakers are doing now is not relevant. It's about what they did those years. They were clearly stacked.

But the Heat are even more stacked...so anyone claiming the Heat aren't stacked is absurd. This year actually proved it...they essentially slumped their way to the title. Very few teams in NBA history could have their 2nd and 3rd best players struggle like Wade and Bosh did and still win. It speaks to the greatness of Lebron, relatively weak competition, how good Wade/Bosh are just by being on the court, and overall team strength.

This year the Heat weren't that good in the playoffs though. Actually kind of poor and to speak to some of the other posts...that absolutely should factor in when we reflect on this title. Team slumped and still won the title...kind of meh for me when I think of the Heat. Not to mention they were less than 1% to win game 6 with 30 seconds left.

[PickernRoller]

LBJ fans coming down to crash the thread and now running for the stands...damn :lol

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