View Full Version : Al Jefferson and Bobcats agree to 3 yrs $41 million
D-Rose
07-04-2013, 01:49 PM
@ESPNSteinLine 1m
Al Jefferson is heading to Charlotte on three-year deal worth estimated$41 million with opt out after Year 2, sources tell ESPN
#Steinbomb
HylianNightmare
07-04-2013, 01:51 PM
Wowowow dudes gonna make out like a bandit
leMVP
07-04-2013, 01:53 PM
Bobcats will fight over the 8th seed next season?
they got a very good lineup there, Backcourt of Kemba and Ben, Frontcourt of Zellar and big Al.
Shade8780
07-04-2013, 01:53 PM
If he could defend or rebound, he'd be worth that much. Too bad he can't.
ConanRulesNBC
07-04-2013, 01:56 PM
Wow... where were the Spurs on this one? Instead of re-signing Splitter or at least for that much they could have signed Al Jefferson. Then sign Ginobili for less and sign Jarrett Jack.
What happens to Gerald Henderson? Still going to resign?
Done_And_Done
07-04-2013, 02:02 PM
This wasn't the move to a make in a Draft year that's thicker than Al Jeff's protein turds. His presence alone is surely to ascend them a few notches hire in the standings. Horrible timing to make a splash signing imo...
D-Rose
07-04-2013, 02:03 PM
I'm guessing gerald will be back.
I don't see any harm in this for the Cats. It's only 13.7 mill a year for 3 years. He has an opt out after two as well. He'll help with a guy like Zeller being there. They can also market him as a star and help to sell jerseys,etc.
chazzy
07-04-2013, 02:03 PM
Good lord
SpurrDurr
07-04-2013, 02:04 PM
Al and Zeller, score on them at will
Johnny Jones
07-04-2013, 02:05 PM
If he could defend or rebound, he'd be worth that much. Too bad he can't.
He averaged 9 rebounds in 33 minutes.
D-Rose
07-04-2013, 02:05 PM
This wasn't the move to a make in a Draft year that's thicker than Al Jeff's protein turds. His presence alone is surely to ascend them a few notches hire in the standings. Horrible timing to make a splash signing imo...
Bobcats have been in so many damn drafts...who cares anyway? No one even knows how many of those guys will pan out or will even declare for the draft. I'm sure they're tired of putting the same shit on the court on offense and decided Al would be worth it.
Dr. Cheesesteak
07-04-2013, 02:05 PM
Guess $$ is #1 on his priority list. Nothing wrong w/ that. I just feel bad for anyone who goes to the Bobcats...
D-Rose
07-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Speculation is that Tyrus Thomas will be amnestied to make room.
Crafty
07-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Kemba, Ben, Al and Zeller
Ancient Legend
07-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Seems like MJ likes to throw his money away.
FlawlessVictory
07-04-2013, 02:10 PM
Good news for Celtics fans. Looking like another team who is likely to build up more wins than them this season.
Done_And_Done
07-04-2013, 02:13 PM
Bobcats have been in so many damn drafts...who cares anyway? No one even knows how many of those guys will pan out or will even declare for the draft. I'm sure they're tired of putting the same shit on the court on offense and decided Al would be worth it.
And I grasp that as well as the growing irrelevancy of a franchise that is often sought upon as an incessant laughing stock in the league. But this team was destined for the lottery yet again in my opinion, in a Draft year that's more loaded than an F1 vehicle...
I know timing is everything, but if I were calling the shots I would have swallowed defeat for another season and make a splash of this ilk at the end of next...
LAZERUSS
07-04-2013, 02:15 PM
I became numb to these ridiculous salaries years ago. When below average players are making $10+ mil per season, it just boggles the mind. And many of those players will be injured, or complete busts the rest of their careers.
Speaking of boggling the mind, what would players like a prime KAJ, or Moses, or Oscar, or Russell, or McAdoo, or Dr.J, or Bird, or Magic, or Wilt, be worth in today's game?
CLTHornets4eva
07-04-2013, 02:18 PM
:bowdown:
Speculation is that Tyrus Thomas will be amnestied to make room.
There is more than enough room $ wise even before that. I don't see how this is a bad deal at all.
I do kinda wish that they tanked again, but it is still luck and they might get a top three. Plus we still have 3 firsts potentially next year.
He will score more than 20+ per game next year.
Celtic_Pride
07-04-2013, 02:20 PM
Good news for Celtics fans. Looking like another team who is likely to build up more wins than them this season.
:cheers:
Now the only teams that can have worse record than Cs are - Sixers, Magic and Bucks
irondarts
07-04-2013, 02:20 PM
Not a bad signing.
After years and years of horrible teams and horrible draft picks, the Bobcats needed to do something to encourage their fan base before they lost their entire fan base.
DMAVS41
07-04-2013, 02:22 PM
Wanted to see him go to a contender, but that contract isn't bad at all in reality.
Not sure why the Bobcats are adding wins like this in the best draft in a decade probably...but trying to figure out what they are doing makes my head hurt.
SpurrDurr
07-04-2013, 02:24 PM
What about Henderson? Last season he was the best player, he's gonna get a new contract?
Anyway they should start trading their picks cause so far they have been dredful at drafting. I still can't figure out why they drafted Zeller at 4.
D-Rose
07-04-2013, 02:30 PM
Rick Bonnell of Charlotte Observer:
Tyrus Thomas will be amnestied. Jefferson will average $13.5 million 1st 3 seasons. Player option for 4th season.
Not sure if he made a mistake on saying it's 4 years instead of 3. They're getting a 20/10 center at age 28...best FA signing of their history and one that goes a long way with their fans.
Nastradamus
07-04-2013, 02:40 PM
They simply cannot put the ball in the bucket in Charlotte. Great move for them, they need to try and be somewhat respectable. Then again, it might cost them Wiggins and they'll be pissed. What can ya do?
Better hope MKB,Kemba,Biyombo and maybe even Henderson work out. Zeller,Jefferson and BB complement each other's games well at least.
Nastradamus
07-04-2013, 02:41 PM
What about Henderson? Last season he was the best player, he's gonna get a new contract?
Anyway they should start trading their picks cause so far they have been dredful at drafting. I still can't figure out why they drafted Zeller at 4.
I'd guess because all the analytics had him as a top 5 guy. NOt saying I agree or disagree, but I wouldn't be surprised if they turned to analytics heavily.
I don't understand these crap teams. Why would you ruin your 2014 draft chances?
Dbrog
07-04-2013, 03:02 PM
Wow... where were the Spurs on this one? Instead of re-signing Splitter or at least for that much they could have signed Al Jefferson. Then sign Ginobili for less and sign Jarrett Jack.
EXACTLY. Wtffff spurrsssss!! :lol
1~Gibson~1
07-04-2013, 03:03 PM
What the heck is an amnesty? Someone please explain :rant
Bobcats should still try to tank for Wiggins.
Kemba
Wiggins
MKG
Zeller
Al Jeff
MJ will teach Wiggins to become the next Jordan.
What the heck is an amnesty? Someone please explain :rant
:wtf:
It's a form of waivers that wouldn't effect salary cap.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Amnesty_clause
First thought: The Kanter-Favors Era has begun! :rockon:
Second thought: Good luck, Al! Enjoy that $40 million.
Seems like he cares more about money than winning. No wonder he gave up on the Jazz vs the Spurs after just 2-3 games into their series.
Dr. Cheesesteak
07-04-2013, 03:12 PM
MJ will teach Wiggins to become the next Jordan.
You mean MJ would sabotage Wiggins' career?
Big Cheese
07-04-2013, 03:13 PM
the bobcats defense will be bad enough to still tank.
hawkfan
07-04-2013, 03:15 PM
#Steinbomb
Bad move for Jefferson, bad move for the Hawks, bad move for the Bobcats.
Jefferson now has to spend 3 years of his career not making the playoffs, when he could have headed to some other better team. Why on earth didn't the Hawks or Bucks offer him this year? WTF?????
Bad move for the Hawks - 13.7 million and get Smith back - Smith, Horford, Jefferson is a potent front court. Rebounding-wise we would be as good as anyone.
Bad move for Bobcats - why not tank again and get Wiggins, but add some younger, quicker wings to make the team fun. For God's sake, trade for Jeremy Lin to run the point guard and then sign a shooter - Anthony Morrow.
alenleomessi
07-04-2013, 03:19 PM
watch out for enes kanter now
14/10 at least
Nanners
07-04-2013, 03:21 PM
I'm guessing gerald will be back.
I don't see any harm in this for the Cats. It's only 13.7 mill a year for 3 years. He has an opt out after two as well. He'll help with a guy like Zeller being there. They can also market him as a star and help to sell jerseys,etc.
13.7 over 3 years for 28 year old al jefferson is an absolute steal imo. jefferson has some issues with defense but he is up there with ZBO and Cousins as one of the absolute best interior scorers in the NBA.
a team with weak interior presence like the blazers would have been happy to give him this same contract.
East_Stone_Ya
07-04-2013, 03:27 PM
Acquired by Utah from Minnesota in a July, 2010 trade, Jefferson could be the kind of acquisition for Charlotte that Vlade Divac was for Sacramento in 1998, when he left the Charlotte Hornets for the Kings in a free agent deal
:biggums:
Qwyjibo
07-04-2013, 03:36 PM
Great news for any team in the East that is tanking.
The Bobcats will still likely be bad but having an established post scorer like Jefferson will lead them to a couple extra meaningless wins. A strange move that I assume is being pressure by ownership to accelerate whatever rebuilding plans the management had.
hawkfan
07-04-2013, 03:38 PM
The Bucks or Hawks should have signed Jefferson.
Jefferson and Ilyasova would have been a good duo, plus the Bucks would head back to the playoffs.
UConnCeltics
07-04-2013, 04:28 PM
Bobcats should be in the playoffs next year, might even finish over .500!
Kemba/Sessions
Henderson/Gordon
MKG/Taylor
Zeller/Biyombo
Al Jeff/Haywood
rufuspaul
07-04-2013, 04:34 PM
Bad move for Bobcats - why not tank again and get Wiggins,
Because tanking that last 3 seasons has not gotten us the #1 pick. Anyways adding AJ is not going to take us out of the lottery. 10 more wins this season will still put us around 10th in the conference.
As for Henderson, he was tendered an offer (not sure of the amount) so he is a restricted FA. The Cats can match any other offer and keep him, which I think they will do.
Kemba/Sessions
Hendo/Gordon
MKG/Taylor
Zeller/McRoberts?
Jefferson/Biyombo
:rockon: Can't wait for the season to start!
hawkfan
07-04-2013, 04:37 PM
Because tanking that last 3 seasons has not gotten us the #1 pick. Anyways adding AJ is not going to take us out of the lottery. 10 more wins this season will still put us around 10th in the conference.
As for Henderson, he was tendered an offer (not sure of the amount) so he is a restricted FA. The Cats can match any other offer and keep him, which I think they will do.
Kemba/Sessions
Hendo/Gordon
MKG/Taylor
Zeller/McRoberts?
Jefferson/Biyombo
:rockon: Can't wait for the season to start!
Anthony Morrow as a shooter off the bench.
rufuspaul
07-04-2013, 04:37 PM
Bobcats should be in the playoffs next year, might even finish over .500!
Kemba/Sessions
Henderson/Gordon
MKG/Taylor
Zeller/Biyombo
Al Jeff/Haywood
I think we'll see Zeller and AJ playing some at 4 but Biz is better at the 5.
All Net
07-04-2013, 04:38 PM
Dude got paid..
UConnCeltics
07-04-2013, 05:04 PM
I think we'll see Zeller and AJ playing some at 4 but Biz is better at the 5.
Yeah, they could use a real backup 4. Just wanted to get their 10 best players in the 2 deep. As I said before, Zeller is going to surprise people. This Zeller/AJ combo may be a great one.
BoutPractice
07-04-2013, 05:13 PM
The Bobcats have done it again :applause:
If it's any consolation:
- they would've screwed up the 2014 draft anyway... even with the number one spot, they'd most likely have drafted a senior 5'11 PG who can't shoot but played for North Carolina over Wiggins
- Al Jefferson is probably the best player to have ever played for the Charlotte Bobcats... whatever that's worth
Bosnian Sajo
07-04-2013, 05:17 PM
Wow... where were the Spurs on this one? Instead of re-signing Splitter or at least for that much they could have signed Al Jefferson. Then sign Ginobili for less and sign Jarrett Jack.
You obviously have no idea how the salary cap and free agency work.
JimmyMcAdocious
07-04-2013, 05:25 PM
Damn, there goes my ROY pick. Jeff going to steal all the shots.
longtime lurker
07-04-2013, 05:27 PM
Good for Al Jefferson. 41 million just to lead the Bobcats to the 10th pick in the lottery.
rufuspaul
07-04-2013, 05:27 PM
Yeah, they could use a real backup 4.
Tyler Hansbrough? :D
KG215
07-04-2013, 05:31 PM
Wanted to see him go to a contender, but that contract isn't bad at all in reality.
Not sure why the Bobcats are adding wins like this in the best draft in a decade probably...but trying to figure out what they are doing makes my head hurt.
Yeah, if you spend too much time trying to figure out what the Bobcats, Bucks, and Raptors are doing, you could give yourself a migraine. It's best to just let them do their thing and laugh.
UConnCeltics
07-04-2013, 05:35 PM
Tyler Hansbrough? :D
That would be good for the Cats any way you slice it. Having one of the best players in UNC history play for the local team is good, he actually fills a need, and he is a good locker room guy that won't cost too much. Makes a lot of sense.
2LeTTeRS
07-04-2013, 06:54 PM
I see this as a very good signing for the Cats. Think about this: accounting their draft pick(s) and Hendo (who I'm assuming will be re-signed) the Bobcats should still have the cap space for a near max deal next year when Gordon and Sessions expire next summer.
For those who say we are wrong for not tanking, I'll say you have to consider these 2 things --- 1) losing breeds bad habits and Charlotte has been one of the losingest franchises in the league in the last 3 years or so. Getting rid of guys like Tyrus and Mullens will help but I say the best environment to develop young talent is a winning one; and 2) the Cats are the most recent franchise in the NBA and are hampered by the fact that previous ownership alienated their fans from the start (including a horrible TV deal that made it almost impossible for most of the state to even see Bobcats games on Tv). Combine that with the quality of the team for the majority of its existence and you get a fanbase that feels very little connection to the team.
Just think about this, at best I'd say they are a distant 3rd or 4th (after the basketball programs from UNC, Duke and maybe NC State) in terms of interest among basketball fans in a basketball crazy state. The only way to start changing that is to put out a better product.
Do I think Jefferson and Zeller are enough by themselves to make this team contenders or even take them to the playoffs? No but they are talented offensive players on a team that had absolutely no interior scoring last year and should compliment Biyombo's game perfectly. Add that to a talented young group of guards and wings (Kemba, MKG, Hendo, and Taylor) and mix in a few vets (Gordon, Sessions, Haywood, and possibly McRoberts) and I see a solid 30 win team. That would at least be a step in the right direction and give the fan-base a little hope.
So I say lets bet on our young guys developing and hope we get some good finds in the draft (besides our pick we own picks from Detroit and Portland in the near future) and who knows what happens. Not expecting miracles or anything but for the first time in....possibly ever I can try to think positively and say things are looking up a bit.
Not saying we get LeBron or anythign, but at least we shouldn't be a laughingstock of the league next year. I for one will take that.
DMAVS41
07-04-2013, 06:59 PM
I see this as a very good signing for the Cats. Think about this: accounting their draft pick(s) and Hendo (who I'm assuming will be re-signed) the Bobcats should still have the cap space for a near max deal next year when Gordon and Sessions expire next summer.
For those who say we are wrong for not tanking, I'll say you have to consider these 2 things --- 1) losing breeds bad habits and Charlotte has been one of the losingest franchises in the league in the last 3 years or so. Getting rid of guys like Tyrus and Mullens will help but I say the best environment to develop young talent is a winning one; and 2) the Cats are the most recent franchise in the NBA and are hampered by the fact that previous ownership alienated their fans from the start (including a horrible TV deal that made it almost impossible for most of the state to even see Bobcats games on Tv). Combine that with the quality of the team for the majority of its existence and you get a fanbase that feels very little connection to the team.
Just think about this, at best I'd say they are a distant 3rd or 4th (after the basketball programs from UNC, Duke and maybe NC State) in terms of interest among basketball fans in a basketball crazy state. The only way to start changing that is to put out a better product.
Do I think Jefferson and Zeller are enough by themselves to make this team contenders or even take them to the playoffs? No but they are talented offensive players on a team that had absolutely no interior scoring last year and should compliment Biyombo's game perfectly. Add that to a talented young group of guards and wings (Kemba, MKG, Hendo, and Taylor) and mix in a few vets (Gordon, Sessions, Haywood, and possibly McRoberts) and I see a solid 30 win team. That would at least be a step in the right direction and give the fan-base a little hope.
So I say lets bet on our young guys developing and hope we get some good finds in the draft (besides our pick we own picks from Detroit and Portland in the near future) and who knows what happens. Not expecting miracles or anything but for the first time in....possibly ever I can try to think positively and say things are looking up a bit.
Not saying we get LeBron or anythign, but at least we shouldn't be a laughingstock of the league next year. I for one will take that.
For their sake...hopefully they'll still suck and get a top pick next year...because of all the years to try and be decent...this is literally the worst year you guys could have picked.
The franchise is just a mess...it boggles the mind that people who are supposed to do this shit for a living can continually make flat out wrong and idiotic decisions.
I honestly don't get it...
chips93
07-04-2013, 07:16 PM
Bobcats will fight over the 8th seed next season?
they got a very good lineup there, Backcourt of Kemba and Ben, Frontcourt of Zellar and big Al.
adding zeller and jefferson to the second worst team in the conference, doesnt turn that team to a playoff team
Locked_Up_Tonight
07-04-2013, 07:18 PM
I'm thankful the Mavs did not get him.
2LeTTeRS
07-04-2013, 07:21 PM
2012 - 2013: 21-61; 2nd worst record - pick 4 (Cody Zeller)
2011 - 2012: 7-59; worst winning% league history - pick 3 (MKG)
2010 - 2011: 34-48; 9th worst record - pick 9 (Kemba Walker)
2009 - 2010: 44-38; made playoffs
2008 - 2009: 35-47; 12th worst record - pick 12 (Gerald Henderson)
2007 - 2008: 32-50; 8th worst record - pick 9 (D.J. Augustin)
2006 - 2007: 33-49; 8th worst record (tied) - pick 8 (traded for Jason Richardson)
2005 - 2006: 26-56; 4th worst record - pick 3 (Adam Morrison)
2004 - 2005: 18-64; 2nd worst record (tied) - pick 5 (Raymond Felton)
2004 Draft: Traded 4th pick (Shaun Livingston) and 33rd overall pick (Lionel Chalmers) to Clippers for 2nd pick (Emeka Okafor)*
* Up until right before the draft Emeka Okafor was expected to be picked by Orlando with that #1 pick. In fact the selection of Dwight Howard by the Magic was reportedly a large part of T Mac demanding to be traded. If Orlando had went with conventional wisdom and drafted the big man with the championship pedigree from a winning program Dwight would have been a Bobcat.
13.7 over 3 years for 28 year old al jefferson is an absolute steal imo. jefferson has some issues with defense but he is up there with ZBO and Cousins as one of the absolute best interior scorers in the NBA.
a team with weak interior presence like the blazers would have been happy to give him this same contract.
Who are the floor spacers in Charlotte?
D-Rose
07-04-2013, 07:52 PM
I totally agree 2Letters. The draft next year is being way overhyped by people...what if some of those guys don't even declare? What if some don't pan out in college? Seriously...no need to completely give up your season if you've already been losing for so long.
This brings in a fresh face and a star to the franchise. Get people interested, sell jerseys, put butts in the seats. They don't have a stellar draft record either.
2LeTTeRS
07-04-2013, 08:10 PM
For their sake...hopefully they'll still suck and get a top pick next year...because of all the years to try and be decent...this is literally the worst year you guys could have picked.
The franchise is just a mess...it boggles the mind that people who are supposed to do this shit for a living can continually make flat out wrong and idiotic decisions.
I honestly don't get it...
Just check a few posts back to see our draft history which shows that a) having a poor season does not guarantee that you get one of the top 2 picks and b) that sometimes talent at the back of the lottery can be just as good as that in the front of it. Can't lie to you man, I'm tired of seeing other teams mop the floor with us every night.
And we're still in good position going forward just look at our projected payroll:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/kaotik03/CharlotteBobcatsPayroll_zps265cfb86.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kaotik03/media/CharlotteBobcatsPayroll_zps265cfb86.jpg.html)
WWRWestbrookDo?
07-04-2013, 09:01 PM
:facepalm
I totally agree 2Letters. The draft next year is being way overhyped by people...what if some of those guys don't even declare? What if some don't pan out in college? Seriously...no need to completely give up your season if you've already been losing for so long.
This brings in a fresh face and a star to the franchise. Get people interested, sell jerseys, put butts in the seats. They don't have a stellar draft record either.
Aint no one buying jerseys and going to games because they signed Al Jefferson. Atleast not anything signficant.
DMAVS41
07-04-2013, 09:18 PM
Just check a few posts back to see our draft history which shows that a) having a poor season does not guarantee that you get one of the top 2 picks and b) that sometimes talent at the back of the lottery can be just as good as that in the front of it. Can't lie to you man, I'm tired of seeing other teams mop the floor with us every night.
And we're still in good position going forward just look at our projected payroll:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/kaotik03/CharlotteBobcatsPayroll_zps265cfb86.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kaotik03/media/CharlotteBobcatsPayroll_zps265cfb86.jpg.html)
I get it, but adding Jefferson just seems pointless.
Of course being bad doesn't mean you get a top pick...but that is just the fault of the franchise you support...they have picked horribly in those drafts.
If the only goal is to try and not be terrible...then the Bobcats seem to be doing okay. But in terms of actually building a quality franchise...it looks like they are "high as ****" every time they make a decision.
UtahJazzFan88
07-04-2013, 09:58 PM
Al is a very clutch player, can get you a lot of buckets even though at times it can be in a ballstopping way, I think the Bobcats will be significantly better on offense, but their defense is going to be atrocious like it was last year unless Zeller can step it up and cover for Al's bad pick and roll defense and foot speed.
However this seems like a very pointless move for the Bobcats. I could understand a team like Houston or Dallas wanting Al because they lose out on the Dwight sweepstakes, I guess the Bobcats want to win, but they're better off not signing Al. Although I think they're still top 10 lottery bad even with Al.
coin24
07-04-2013, 10:01 PM
Great move for the bobcats IMO..
Time to start signing players and clean up that shit roster. They need to add more offense now...
Anyone saying they should tank again is a complete retard:facepalm overhyping the 2014 draft like crazy, especially with the bobcats/mjs drafting history:lol
At least they're going to try and compete, they owe it to the fans they have left, you know, the people that attend games/buy merchandise etc. not the forum GMs:facepalm
Bobcats fans after learning theyre not attempting to tank this year:
http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/yTG0R.gif
B-Easy8
07-04-2013, 10:54 PM
I like the deal.
No one wants to be bad for that long.
Bobcats could potentially sneak into the 8th spot.
El Kabong
07-04-2013, 11:04 PM
Al is a very clutch player, can get you a lot of buckets even though at times it can be in a ballstopping way, I think the Bobcats will be significantly better on offense, but their defense is going to be atrocious like it was last year unless Zeller can step it up and cover for Al's bad pick and roll defense and foot speed.
I'm guessing they want someone with an offensive game to put next to Biyombo.
Bobcats have two 1sts coming to them from Portland and Detroit this year while still owing one to Chicago. At least if they make the playoffs they'll finally get the final part of that terrible Tyrus Thomas trade out of the way.
Meticode
07-04-2013, 11:22 PM
It's a waste of money. Jefferson is probably worth that much on the NBA market today just becuase everyone is seemingly overpaid, but he's not worth it to the Bobcats. This is the type of player you sign to make a run. Unless they're trying to make a run at the 8th seed?
kraze94
07-04-2013, 11:56 PM
No way the Bobcats will be over .500 with their lack of defense. Opposing teams will score at will and take it to the hole easily. Only player who has somewhat of a defensive presence is MKG.
Also, why are people lauding that the Cats have Ben Gordon. Ben freaking Gordon? Dude is washed up, oft injured, and plays zero defense. Ben Gordon is nothing to brag about if you're trying to talk up the Cats.
Beastmode88
07-05-2013, 12:12 AM
Big Al knows he's never gonna win a ring with utah.. take easy money.
irondarts
07-05-2013, 12:13 AM
No way the Bobcats will be over .500 with their lack of defense. Opposing teams will score at will and take it to the hole easily. Only player who has somewhat of a defensive presence is MKG.
Also, why are people lauding that the Cats have Ben Gordon. Ben freaking Gordon? Dude is washed up, oft injured, and plays zero defense. Ben Gordon is nothing to brag about if you're trying to talk up the Cats.
I'd say Biyombo has a pretty big defensive presence.
bdreason
07-05-2013, 12:15 AM
Guess I can't hate on the Cats for trying to add talent... but an aging Jefferson wouldn't have been my first choice to give big money.
El Kabong
07-05-2013, 12:16 AM
Big Al knows he's never gonna win a ring with utah.. take easy money.
More like Big Al knows Utah weren't going to pay him the (any) money, so he had to get it elsewhere.
irondarts
07-05-2013, 12:16 AM
Guess I can't hate on the Cats for trying to add talent... but an aging Jefferson wouldn't have been my first choice to give big money.
He's only 28.
kraze94
07-05-2013, 12:16 AM
^ I agree, but I was referring to the starters only. With Big Al probably playing around 36 minutes, Biyombo won't see the floor much.
El Kabong
07-05-2013, 12:19 AM
^ I agree, but I was referring to the starters only. With Big Al probably playing around 36 minutes, Biyombo won't see the floor much.
It probably wouldn't hurt defensively to play them together. At least Biyombo might be able to make up for Jefferson's poor defense. Jefferson can handle the inside scoring, so you'd only need to worry about Biyombo getting putbacks and that's it.
secund2nun
07-05-2013, 12:47 AM
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Not sure why the Bobcats are adding wins like this in the best draft in a decade probably...but trying to figure out what they are doing makes my head hurt.
Jordan adding to his WOAT owner legacy :roll:
andgar923
07-05-2013, 12:54 AM
As a Clippers fan any move in the right direction is a good move. Even if it's adding Al only equates to 5 more wins. Even if the team doesn't win any more or any less, you want them to be competitive, that's the most you can ask from a team. If Al gives them a chance to be competitive that's what a fan can only ask for. YOu can build a fanbase around a core of players that are competitive, that go out and bust their ass every night and play with pride, wear that Cats jersey for the fans.
Sounds corny, but as a fan that's what you can hold on too.
Some of us hardcore Clip fans always maintained that loyalty and got our hopes up when Odom, Mcginnis, QRich and company wore the jersey with pride. I still remember rookie Odom PROUD of being a Clipper, that shit meant alot to us and the foundation for winning was established.
This also shows the fans that the organization isn't tanking to get draft picks. You need to fill the seats NOW! If you're a fan and it becomes obvious that they're purposely tanking the season it's like spitting on their face, a HUGE insult. The players feel it and won't give it their all, won't play with pride.
How can you support a team like that?
If you're a free agent how can you sign to a team like that?
Step by step
Props to all true team fans that stay loyal.
HarryCallahan
07-05-2013, 01:06 AM
Wow... where were the Spurs on this one? Instead of re-signing Splitter or at least for that much they could have signed Al Jefferson. Then sign Ginobili for less and sign Jarrett Jack.
Ever heard of chemistry or fitting in to the system.... or DEFENSE? Jack and Jefferson would ruin the Spurs they're both no defence playing ball-stoppers and oh yeah there this thing called a salary cap...
Can you just focus on the Bulls or something? It'd be much better than you proving how little your obese ass knows about the game of basketball.
veilside23
07-05-2013, 01:13 AM
i dont get it that people still try to bash jordan for the moves he is making ... hat is quite a decent team that they have ...
i wont be surprise if big AL will be an all star next year...
lets be positive and think that the cats are trying to win now.
because they know that the lottery is rigged why not just pay people this time the right way..
jordan has paid scrubs before and now that he is paying a guy that is worth of it people still bash him... i guess thats what you get when you are the GOAT...
Quizno
07-05-2013, 02:29 AM
this is a great signing imo. al jefferson could put up 20/10 on that team and we'll see how kemba, henderson, MKG and biyombo continue to develop and how zeller turns out (and i think he'll be good). the bobcats should have two legit low post threats and a point guard who can really create for himself and others. this is gonna be an exciting team and they have potential to be legit
El Kabong
07-05-2013, 02:30 AM
this is a great signing imo. al jefferson could put up 20/10 on that team and we'll see how kemba, henderson, MKG and biyombo continue to develop and how zeller turns out (and i think he'll be good). the bobcats should have two legit low post threats and a point guard who can really create for himself and others. this is gonna be an exciting team and they have potential to be legit
Get outta here with your optimism, we're trying to be negative here.
Quizno
07-05-2013, 02:44 AM
Guess I can't hate on the Cats for trying to add talent... but an aging Jefferson wouldn't have been my first choice to give big money.
dude he's only 28 lol. and it's only a 3 year deal
Quizno
07-05-2013, 02:47 AM
Get outta here with your optimism, we're trying to be negative here.
i understand. here, let me try
bobcats need to tank for the 4th season in a row to get a 4th overall pick again! it's better for them to be terrible! bobcats new management has been sssssoooooo bad by addressing their biggest need this offseason which is low post scoring while letting some of their other young backcourt players develop somewhere, a backcourt that nobody really noticed was pretty damn good last season with a healthy henderson and kemba walker.
for real, this team could end up being surprisingly nasty. especially if MKG develops into a lockdown perimeter defender and an efficient slasher
LilEddyCurry
07-05-2013, 02:47 AM
Large salary and long vacation for Jefferson :rockon: But Bobcats should of drafted Mclemore, no need for Zeller, plus Mclemore has much more potential.
VIntageNOvel
07-05-2013, 03:01 AM
while half of the league tank for 2014 draft,
the bobcats ready to contending for the playoff for the first time :lol
ukballer
07-05-2013, 03:10 AM
I like this, I like this a lot.
Yeah, Al is definitely a Bobcat for money reasons, but when you look at it from the team's point of view, it's addressed an absolutely huge need for this team. I'm very happy that Tyrus Thomas has gone too. The guy is such a waste of talent and money. I remember when he first came to the team and finally looked like he was going to deliver on some of his touted 'potential'. Then unsurprisingly it just fell away, he picked up some injuries, and would just sulk on the bench the whole time. Glad that bum has gone.
while half of the league tank for 2014 draft,
the bobcats ready to contending for the playoff for the first time :lol
They made the playoffs in 2009-2010 Season.
andremiller07
07-05-2013, 04:28 AM
For me it's always a joy to watch Big Al in the post and for the Bobcats he will be getting plenty of touches so from a fan perspective I like it.:applause:
poido123
07-05-2013, 05:01 AM
I'm wondering why Bulls weren't onto this and looked to trade away Deng to get back Al and amnesty Boozer...
I guess Bulls didn't rate Al that highly.
JohnnySic
07-05-2013, 08:38 AM
Good for Big Al.
Xiao Yao You
07-05-2013, 09:34 AM
I hope it works out for Al. I'm not sure his game fits anywhere though. Sure he has nice looking post moves but they don't come in the flow of the offense. He completely ruined one of the best offensive systems in basketball in Utah and turned it into Al ball. Get Al ball. Watch Al shoot ball. Watch Al miss over half of his shots. Watch Al not get to the line. Watch Al not pass to the open man.
Looking forward to the return of Jazz basketball hopefully after 3 painful ones watching Al Ball.
rufuspaul
07-05-2013, 11:08 AM
Also, why are people lauding that the Cats have Ben Gordon. Ben freaking Gordon? Dude is washed up, oft injured, and plays zero defense. Ben Gordon is nothing to brag about if you're trying to talk up the Cats.
Gordon is a huge expiring contract. He's worth keeping until the Feb. trade deadline for that reason alone. We traded Maggette and got Gordon's huge expiring plus a draft pick. Not a bad deal.
Guess I can't hate on the Cats for trying to add talent... but an aging Jefferson wouldn't have been my first choice to give big money.
:oldlol: How many other big time free agents want to come to Charlotte? When you're the Bobcats and a consistent 17/9 big is available and actually wants to come play for you, you jump on it.
MJ and Cho were smart in that it's only 2 yrs with a 3rd year player option. Big Al will be an expiring just when Kemba is gonna want to be paid. Did the Cats overpay? Yes, but what legit big in the NBA isn't overpaid? Did the Cats screw up their capspace moving forward? Not in the least.
HarryCallahan
07-05-2013, 11:46 AM
Gordon is a huge expiring contract. He's worth keeping until the Feb. trade deadline for that reason alone. We traded Maggette and got Gordon's huge expiring plus a draft pick. Not a bad deal.
:oldlol: How many other big time free agents want to come to Charlotte? When you're the Bobcats and a consistent 17/9 big is available and actually wants to come play for you, you jump on it.
MJ and Cho were smart in that it's only 2 yrs with a 3rd year player option. Big Al will be an expiring just when Kemba is gonna want to be paid. Did the Cats overpay? Yes, but what legit big in the NBA isn't overpaid? Did the Cats screw up their capspace moving forward? Not in the least.
Yeah I thought it was a good move too. With all the tanking, the Cats will be in a good position to make a run to the p/o's. Ben gordons (13mil?) expirer could net them some more pieces.
I really like the core of this team, should get rid of the "loser culture" they have.
Kemba/Sessions
Hendo
MKG/Taylor
Big Al/Zeller
Biyombo/Haywood
Should be a 30+win team in the East, with Bucks/Hawks/Celtics probably moving out of the eight, looks like Cavs/Wiz/Cats/Pistons will be fighting for their spots (maybe Toronto, but it looks like they're trying really hard to tank).
Bandito
07-05-2013, 11:51 AM
The Bobcats need someone to put butts in the seats. Hopefully Al could be that guy. Who knows maybe the Cats will luck out and get someone really good in 2014 FA.
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