Kobe

[Sharmer]

Let's be real D12 left LA largely because he would have been second filddle behind Kobe. Another few years playing second fiddle to Kobe would be too much.

I'm no D12 fan but let''s not forget Kobe took twice as many FG attempts through out the year.

It's easier to say that he didnt like the MDA system, but the truth is that no other star can play with a ball hog like Kobe. Only a soft Gasol can fill that role.

[Kews1]

true story

[Rysio]

Let's be real D12 left LA largely because he would have been second filddle behind Kobe. Another few years playing second fiddle to Kobe would be too much.

I'm no D12 fan but let''s not forget Kobe took twice as many FG attempts through out the year.

It's easier to say that he didnt like the MDA system, but the truth is that no other star can play with a ball hog like Kobe. Only a soft Gasol can fill that role.
uhh because he's about a 100x better offensively than him.

[HelterSkelter]

http://distilleryimage2.ak.instagram.com/f1069ae8e5e711e291bd22000a1fbf1d_6.jpg

via Kobe's instagram.


He loves Gasol 'cause he would take any shyt from Kobe. Dwight wouldn't

[Doranku]

Maybe Dwight would get more shot attempts if he could,

A.) Keep the ball up high and not get stripped every other time he catches the ball down low
B.) Have more post moves than a running hook shot in the lane
C.) Have the ability to make more FTs than he misses

[Sharmer]

:roll:

No star wants to play with Kobe now, only a washed up Gasol and a bunch of scrubs, plus a almost 40 yo Nash.

[Anfernee]

Even if Dwight got more touches, I still couldn't see them working as teammates. Kobe takes the game seriously, Dwight does not. It was never going to work.

[JBrizzy]

Dwight had like 6 children with 8 different women. If he can be that prolithic on the court it will be LIGHTS OUT.

[Sharmer]

http://distilleryimage2.ak.instagram.com/f1069ae8e5e711e291bd22000a1fbf1d_6.jpg

via Kobe's instagram.


He loves Gasol 'cause he would take any shyt from Kobe. Dwight wouldn't


yeah Gasol would take it up the A hole for Kobe.

[Lamar Doom]

WHAT?!? bad mouthing kobe? NO! NO NO NO NO NO. Kobe is one of the greatest ever, he's above scrutiny! How dare you!?!? KOBE RULEZ SCHOOLZ AND YOU DROOLZ HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH LOL ROFL LMAO


I wish everyone who had even the simplest twist on a re-hashed thought would create their own thread to share... oh wait, they do! Thanks ISH. Elementary analysis and trolling really make for a great read. Go f*ck yourself everybody, you're almost all retarded, I mean that, I'd be ashamed to be human if I wasn't so sure that I'm part of an evolved species and you're all inbred monkey types. Never have kids, die in a fire, g'night.

[Magic 32]

http://distilleryimage2.ak.instagram.com/f1069ae8e5e711e291bd22000a1fbf1d_6.jpg

via Kobe's instagram.


He loves Gasol 'cause he would take any shyt from Kobe. Dwight wouldn't

It must be hard to win multiple championships. Poor Pau.

0-16 in the PO without Kobe.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_76kelMJYGYs/TG3oIeeX-lI/AAAAAAAAARs/AkynVlZEVa0/s1600/Pau+Gasol+kisses+the+Larry+O_Brien+trophy.jpg

[HelterSkelter]

^^I wouldn't be anyone's punching bag just to win a championship..

[Magic 32]

^^I wouldn't be anyone's punching bag just to win a championship..

Congratulation, anonymous message board user.

[coin24]

Maybe Dwight would get more shot attempts if he could,

A.) Keep the ball up high and not get stripped every other time he catches the ball down low
B.) Have more post moves than a running hook shot in the lane
C.) Have the ability to make more FTs than he misses

This:applause:

He's painful to watch on offense:facepalm
Only complete idiots (heat bandwagoners) would say dwight should shoot more than Kobe.

[Human Error]

Let's be real D12 left LA largely because he would have been second filddle behind Kobe. Another few years playing second fiddle to Kobe would be too much.

I'm no D12 fan but let''s not forget Kobe took twice as many FG attempts through out the year.

It's easier to say that he didnt like the MDA system, but the truth is that no other star can play with a ball hog like Kobe. Only a soft Gasol can fill that role.
This is an accurate post, I am disappointed that Dwight did not straightup address it, but who cares when everyone already knows it. It was a lose-lose situation for Dwight in LA, when he does well the Lakers fans say Kobe helped him do that, when he doesn't do well the Lakers fans say he isn't even a top 10 center in the league. Dwight had his reasons to take time considering the amount that he was going to leave on the table(actually it's net $9 million, not $30 because there's no state income tax in Texas, still huge money though), but I think that Dwight made the right decision.

[Soundwave]

Kobe can't defer and be the no.2 option. He just can't, even if it would be better for the team. Once he was free of Shaq he was never going to go back to doing that.

[Rysio]

Kobe can't defer and be the no.2 option. He just can't, even if it would be better for the team. Once he was free of Shaq he was never going to go back to doing that.
why would a proven number 1 option defer to a guy who most the time last year was a 2nd and 3rd option to pau and artest?

[Soundwave]

why would a proven number 1 option defer to a guy who most the time last year was a 2nd and 3rd option to pau and artest?

The Lakers had to know that Dwight was the future of the franchise, they should've given him more of an opportunity to take the reigns, and Kobe should've accepted being the no.2 option more often.

[Magic 32]

Kobe can't defer and be the no.2 option.

Neither can Lebron.

[Kews1]

Neither can Lebron.

that wouldnt be better for the team though, would it

[Magic 32]

The Lakers had to know that Dwight was the future of the franchise, they should've given him more of an opportunity to take the reigns, and Kobe should've accepted being the no.2 option more often.

Force feed an injured players to make them feel better.


Right. :hammerhead:

[Soundwave]

Neither can Lebron.

LeBron isn't 34 years old.

[Magic 32]

that wouldnt be better for the team though, would it

I don't know. Wade could have used a second option in the 2011 finals.

[Kews1]

I don't know. Wade could have used a second option in the 2011 finals.

Shaq could have used on in 2004

[coin24]

The Lakers had to know that Dwight was the future of the franchise, they should've given him more of an opportunity to take the reigns, and Kobe should've accepted being the no.2 option more often.

And how did dwight play in the playoffs in that role???
Shut down by Duncan and was an all around embarrassment to the laker franchise. Good riddance:cheers:

[Soundwave]

And how did dwight play in the playoffs in that role???
Shut down by Duncan and was an all around embarrassment to the laker franchise. Good riddance:cheers:

I wouldn't say 17/11 on 62% shooting is exactly terrible.

The Spurs were just the (far) better team.

[Magic 32]

Shaq could have used on in 2004

You mean the guy who had swallowed his pride and ambitions for 4 years and helped make Shaq a legend? (without getting any credit from hardcore basketball fans by the way).

Lebron never had ONE successful year as a second option, and he sabotaged the one series where he was asked to be one.

[Rysio]

The Lakers had to know that Dwight was the future of the franchise, they should've given him more of an opportunity to take the reigns, and Kobe should've accepted being the no.2 option more often.
future of the franchise? dwight might never be as athletic as he was before his surgery again. and his game is 100% athleticism. even if he gets back to his old athletic self he has 5 years at best before his athleticism declines for good.

the lakers might as well pay a 40 year old kobe 30 mil a year for the next 5 years and have bigger chance of success than paying this scrub around the same money while not getting even close to the same profits they would make from jersey sales and what not that they would from kobe.

[coin24]

I wouldn't say 17/11 on 62% shooting is exactly terrible.

The Spurs were just the (far) better team.

Are those turnover and missed free throw numbers?:lol
Considering the lineup the lakers had out there, he should have put up a LOT better numbers considering he feels he's a legit 1st scoring option :oldlol:

[Kews1]

You mean the guy who had swallowed his pride and ambitions for 4 years and helped make Shaq a legend? (without getting any credit from hardcore basketball fans by the way).

Lebron never had ONE successful year as a second option, and he sabotaged the one series when he was asked to be one.

The better played is always #1.

At the time...

Shaq > Kobe

Lebron > Wade

Dwight > Kobe

[Magic 32]

The better played is always #1.

At the time...

Shaq > Kobe

Lebron > Wade

Dwight > Kobe

2011 Wade > Lebron

2013 Kobe > Dwight

Any sane person would admit this.

[JellyBean]

Let's be real D12 left LA largely because he would have been second filddle behind Kobe. Another few years playing second fiddle to Kobe would be too much.

I'm no D12 fan but let''s not forget Kobe took twice as many FG attempts through out the year.

It's easier to say that he didnt like the MDA system, but the truth is that no other star can play with a ball hog like Kobe. Only a soft Gasol can fill that role.


:facepalm Let's be real here, D12 left LA because he is soft. S-O-F-T!!!! He could not handle the pressure.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

WHAT?!? bad mouthing kobe? NO! NO NO NO NO NO. Kobe is one of the greatest ever, he's above scrutiny! How dare you!?!? KOBE RULEZ SCHOOLZ AND YOU DROOLZ HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH LOL ROFL LMAO


I wish everyone who had even the simplest twist on a re-hashed thought would create their own thread to share... oh wait, they do! Thanks ISH. Elementary analysis and trolling really make for a great read. Go f*ck yourself everybody, you're almost all retarded, I mean that, I'd be ashamed to be human if I wasn't so sure that I'm part of an evolved species and you're all inbred monkey types. Never have kids, die in a fire, g'night.


Location : Venice Beach, LA

[Derka]

Haters wanna hate.
Lovers wanna love.
I don't even want
None of the above
I want to piss on youuuu

[Kews1]

2011 Wade > Lebron

2013 Kobe > Dwight

Any sane person would admit this.

:oldlol:

[Magic 32]

:oldlol:

Why would Lebron not follow a proven winner(unlike himself), still in his prime and the original leader of the team?

Seems stange to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEV0enDt2B8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgE2JG1k0Fg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOZtt2vqD5s

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Haters wanna hate.
Lovers wanna love.
I don't even want
None of the above
I want to piss on youuuu

drip drip drip

[Doctor Rivers]

Why would Lebron not follow a proven winner(unlike himself), still in his prime and the original leader of the team?

Seems stange to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEV0enDt2B8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgE2JG1k0Fg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOZtt2vqD5s

amazing stuff

[AintNoSunshine]

well he shouldn't need to say something that's clear as daylight. When was the last time kobe took any blame for losing or not took all the glory when they did something right? Just look at the bitsh that is Gasol, definition of a bitsh, kobe's personal scapegoat:facepalm

[Magic 32]

well he shouldn't need to say something that's clear as daylight. When was the last time kobe took any blame for losing or not took all the glory when they did something right? Just look at the bitsh that is Gasol, definition of a bitsh, kobe's personal scapegoat:facepalm

http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/MjAxMi00ZjkwNWRiMmQwYjU3OWI4.png

[WhySoInsecure?]

Same thing that happened with Shaq.

[HelterSkelter]

Congratulation, anonymous message board user.

ok. :oldlol: i wasn't talking to you, you were the one who replied to my post..

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LAKER FANS

[razzredazzre]

Maybe Dwight would get more shot attempts if he could,

A.) Keep the ball up high and not get stripped every other time he catches the ball down low
B.) Have more post moves than a running hook shot in the lane
C.) Have the ability to make more FTs than he misses

This end thread.

[Magic 32]

ok. :oldlol: i wasn't talking to you, you were the one who replied to my post..

http://www.rs-wd.com/templates/history_channel_aliens_meme.jpg
LAKER FANS

Same idiotic argument.

[gengiskhan]

Let's be real D12 left LA largely because he would have been second filddle behind Kobe. Another few years playing second fiddle to Kobe would be too much.

I'm no D12 fan but let''s not forget Kobe took twice as many FG attempts through out the year.

It's easier to say that he didnt like the MDA system, but the truth is that no other star can play with a ball hog like Kobe. Only a soft Gasol can fill that role.

Finally someone said the truth.

Dwight was not gonna complain about touches for long time.

once & done. good work d-12.

screw the chucking that loses game after game.

[Magic 32]

Finally someone said the truth.

Dwight was not gonna complain about touches for long time.

once & done. good work d-12.

screw the chucking that loses game after game.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/769259/kobe-scores-table-5-rings-o.gif

[chosen_wun]

Is Kobe gonna spend last few years in mediocrity while still getting payed like a franchise player...or will Lakers front office weigh their options..hmm

Me thinks that all the fake Laker fans are about to be exposed next summer. Just watch.

[Sharmer]

Kobe can't defer and be the no.2 option. He just can't, even if it would be better for the team. Once he was free of Shaq he was never going to go back to doing that.

This is why Wade is a better team player than Kobe.

[Magic 32]

This is why Wade is a better team player than Kobe.

And why Lebron is not.

Kobe did it for 8 years at least.

[OldSkoolball#52]

It must be hard to win multiple championships. Poor Pau.

0-16 in the PO without Kobe.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_76kelMJYGYs/TG3oIeeX-lI/AAAAAAAAARs/AkynVlZEVa0/s1600/Pau+Gasol+kisses+the+Larry+O_Brien+trophy.jpg


What is Kobes playoff record without Derek Fisher there to save the game after Kobe laid brick after brick when it mattered at the end?

And you can count four losses from last year toward Kobe record, bc he was on the verge of getting swept but faked an injury instead to avoid humiliation.

[Sharmer]

Lebron averages a lot more assists per game than Kobe.

I' m predicting Kobe takes chucking to entire new level next year when he returns.

Kobe's already worked out how to chuck on one leg.

[ispin69]

https://static.ylilauta.org/files/qe/orig/1367118025926408.jpg/das%20it%20mane.jpg

[Magic 32]

And you can count four losses from last year toward Kobe record, bc he was on the verge of getting swept but faked an injury instead to avoid humiliation.

Bitter much?

[longtime lurker]

So Kobe forced D12 out of LA yet Howard was defending him......right

[Deuce Bigalow]

If only Kobe missed the playoffs, which would have allowed Dwight to dominate and lead the Lakers to wins.

[Droid101]

And you can count four losses from last year toward Kobe record, bc he was on the verge of getting swept but faked an injury instead to avoid humiliation.
:facepalm Another addition to my ignore list. It's getting damn long.

[MastaKilla]

If only Kobe missed the playoffs, which would have allowed Dwight to dominate and lead the Lakers to wins.

This. All these trolls were saying the Lakers would be better w/o Kobe..

Dwight was the clear cut #1 option in the playoffs and they looked worse than they had all year

Haters will ignore this

[Yao Ming's Foot]

This. All these trolls were saying the Lakers would be better w/o Kobe..

Dwight was the clear cut #1 option in the playoffs and they looked worse than they had all year

Haters will ignore this

DAT TWIN TOWER DOMINANT OFFENSE

http://i.imgur.com/si4eFit.png

[Deuce Bigalow]

DAT TWIN TOWER DOMINANT OFFENSE

http://i.imgur.com/si4eFit.png
85.3 PPG

Lowest Postseason PPG in Franchise history :bowdown:

[The-Legend-24]

Kobe averaged 6 apg last season, and was averaging like 9 apg for a stretch of games too. But yea, Kobe never passed.

:facepalm

[ispin69]

This. All these trolls were saying the Lakers would be better w/o Kobe..

Dwight was the clear cut #1 option in the playoffs and they looked worse than they had all year

Haters will ignore this

Yes he was the only option because kobe is sitting on the bench collecting a 30 MILLION dollar salary and useless Gasol taking in 20 Million. For 30-50 Mil you could get CP3 and a 3rd option (young athletic, not on the way to retirement).

Probably one of the main reasons he was willing to be traded to LA was that Kobe was on his way out. He said he would retire after this current contract, then afterwards changed his mind and now wants to play 2-4 more years. Definitely a big reason he didn't come back. He would be stuck with old ass players and an old ballhogging chucker for YEARS.

[Jacks3]

DAT TWIN TOWER DOMINANT OFFENSE

http://i.imgur.com/si4eFit.png
Wow. Dwight as the #1 option and you get a offense that's far, far worse than the Bobcats.

Amazing.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[PickernRoller]

Yes he was the only option because kobe is sitting on the bench collecting a 30 MILLION dollar salary and useless Gasol taking in 20 Million. For 30-50 Mil you could get CP3 and a 3rd option (young athletic, not on the way to retirement).

Probably one of the main reasons he was willing to be traded to LA was that Kobe was on his way out. He said he would retire after this current contract, then afterwards changed his mind and now wants to play 2-4 more years. Definitely a big reason he didn't come back. He would be stuck with old ass players and an old ballhogging chucker for YEARS.

Irrelevant to the fact. Aka you're a lost stray.

[Bandito]

Dwight was too scared to admit not wanting to play with Kobe...riiight...

[tazb]

D12 is not the only one who Kobe forced out of LA.

[Jacks3]

Hey clowns.

5 rings.

No matter what you morons say, them rings will never go away.

Idiots.

:oldlol:

[TheBigVeto]

true story

Indeed.

[HelterSkelter]

Same idiotic argument.

the irony :facepalm

[Sharmer]

Is Kobe gonna spend last few years in mediocrity while still getting payed like a franchise player...or will Lakers front office weigh their options..hmm

Me thinks that all the fake Laker fans are about to be exposed next summer. Just watch.

Amnesty the ultimate chucker, that would be priceless.

[longtime lurker]

Amnesty the ultimate chucker, that would be priceless.

You seriously have brain damage.

[Doctor Rivers]

http://s12.postimg.org/qus9puh7x/Capture.png

Interesting... I wonder what Dwight told her about Kobe...

The tweet has since been deleted.

[ThatsGame]

Nobody wants an asshole for a teammate. Kobe is an complete asshole.

[riseagainst]

DAT TWIN TOWER DOMINANT OFFENSE

http://i.imgur.com/si4eFit.png

:roll:

this should end thread.

[COnDEMnED]

Let's be real D12 left LA largely because he would have been second filddle behind Kobe. Another few years playing second fiddle to Kobe would be too much.

I'm no D12 fan but let''s not forget Kobe took twice as many FG attempts through out the year.

It's easier to say that he didnt like the MDA system, but the truth is that no other star can play with a ball hog like Kobe. Only a soft Gasol can fill that role.
Didn't Kobe make and break his own personal best assist record sometime midway through last year? Doesn't that kinda shit all over you?

[indiefan24]

http://s12.postimg.org/qus9puh7x/Capture.png

Interesting... I wonder what Dwight told her about Kobe...

The tweet has since been deleted.

prob said he's an a-hole

[ihatetimthomas]

He is and always will be a shoot first scorer. That is in his nature. But we did see him adjust his game in a major way in the 2nd part of the season. There was a stretch where he was almost having a triple double every night and was making a conscious effort to get it done by facilitating. If anyone tried to adjust his game to the personnel, it was Kobe. I mean, you are basically asking a NBA champ and all time great who was a score first player for 16 years to become a player he really is not accustomed to be. So the fact that he was willing to change up his game, and do it successfully for stretches, is a testament to him. To me, Dwight never got it. As big a ego Kobe has, Dwight's is up there with him as well. All he needs to do is be a defensive anchor, grab boards and block shots. He shouldn't worry about his touches on offense bc quite frankly, he wasn't very good in the post last year.

Im not trying to sit here and say Kobe had no part of Dwight departure. Obviously their games didn't mesh well and probably their personalities as well. I am trying to say it was a 2 way street, and a lot of Dwight's shortcomings in LA had to do with him as well.