Josh Smith to Detroit - 4 years, $56M

[ZHAKIDD532]

Via Woj on Twitter


Josh Smith has agreed to a four year, $56 million deal with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.

- @WojYahooNBA

[D-Rose]

Wow. I guess Monroe and Drummond's rebounding numbers are going up with all those clanked jumpers.

[therammingman]

stupid for both sides

[ZHAKIDD532]

Yeah I'm kind of confused. Is he playing the 3? Or is Drummond or Monroe coming off the bench?

[Grinder]

I guess Detroit is determined to lock themselves into 4 years of mediocrity.

Play him at the 4 and hurt Drummond's development; play him at the 3 and have no floor spacing and an anemic offensive lineup.

[KG215]

Well, at least now Rockets fans can quit assuming he's going to Houston.

This is such an odd move and makes almost no sense, but at least Smith got him a $14M/year deal. Good for him.

[KobesFinger]

What's the point? Now the development of the combination of Monroe and Drummond is going to be slowed down unless J-Smoove plays SF

[MTing]

:wtf: Why

[wlee43]

well there goes 4 years of losing for smith

[PJR]

Dumars has potentially a good thing going with the Monroe/Drummond Twin Towers, and now you want to bring in this low IQ player to retard the growth and development? :facepalm

[PickernRoller]

56 Mill.......... a lot of money.

[hawkfan]

Bad move for both.

Smith should have gone to Houston, who should have moved Asik out to sign him. Smith fit well with Harden and Howard - his game complements their games.

Pistons get a guy who is going to get in the way of Drummond/Monroe. Not a good fit. Unless Drummond or Monroe are going to get moved.

[SilkkTheShocker]

For everything good Dumars does, he tends to do something really stupid afterwards.

[longtime lurker]

:roll: :roll: Dumars gonna Dumars. This move makes absolutely no sense, even though 14 mill a year for Josh Smith is a steal.

[loganwadams]

:facepalm

[CTulc]

My gut tells me Monroe is going to the Celtics and Pistons end up with Rondo/Smith/Drummond

[DuMa]

dumars strikes again. another charlie v, ben gordon deal. :lol

pistons staying mediorce

[KG215]

:roll: :roll: Dumars gonna Dumars. This move makes absolutely no sense, even though 14 mill a year for Josh Smith is a steal.
:wtf:

[Myth]

Josh Smith to Detroit?

BREAKING NEWS: Dwight changes his mind again.

[Pra]

Well, Charlie V & Stuckey coming off the books after this season. They will have a crap ton of cap space even with this signing.... they could do something in 2014 I guess lol.

[bagelred]

My standard response:

:roll:

Who else was competing for him? lol....why so much? why so serious? why ask why?

[Done_And_Done]

Was Dumars really the brain power behind the Pistons run in the mid 2000's because some of his signings in the recent past tell me otherwise.

[iamgine]

Perhaps they're going for a rotation of Smith - Drummond - Monroe at the PF/C position with Smith getting a little small forward minutes as well when the matchup is favorable. Easily 32+ minutes for everybody.

[hawkfan]

Drummond and a first round pick plus expirers for Rondo makes sense for Boston and Detroit.

Rondo-Smith-Monroe is a solid Big 3 and they would still have some cap space for Monta Ellis or AK47.

Otherwise, this is a stupid move for the Pistons.

[Shade8780]

My gut tells me Monroe is going to the Celtics and Pistons end up with Rondo/Smith/Drummond


Drummond and a first round pick plus expirers for Rondo makes sense for Boston and Detroit.

Rondo-Smith-Monroe is a solid Big 3 and they would still have some cap space for Monta Ellis or AK47.

Otherwise, this is a stupid move for the Pistons.
OMFG, please please please do this, Danny!

http://blogs.nd.edu/oblation/files/2011/05/praying-the-rosaryimage.jpg

[SCdac]

Had a strong feeling Smith with a take a contract with a team like this. Doesn't seem like a "take less to go to a contender or stacked team" type... Most in the thread don't like it (completely understandable given JS's ceiling), and I doubt Pistons fans are enamored but it, but I think it can work to an extent.

[MTing]

Josh Smith to Detroit?

BREAKING NEWS: Dwight changes his mind again.
LOL:oldlol:

[hawkfan]

Well, Charlie V & Stuckey coming off the books after this season. They will have a crap ton of cap space even with this signing.... they could do something in 2014 I guess lol.

The Hawks could use Stuckey, so the Pistons can send him to Atlanta in a sign and trade.

[longtime lurker]

:wtf:

Considering Josh Smith was looking for a max contract and guys like Rudy Gay is making 17 million this year and 19 million next year yes it's a steal for what Smith brings defensively and on the offensive end.

[ZMonkey11]

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff** *******************************ccccccccccccccccckk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Yeah, I'm thinking this has to be a move to justify trading Drummond or Monroe for Rondo. I hope that is the case. I want the Celts to be real bad - not b/c I dislike them (why I want LAL to be bad), but b/c I want their chances to have a Top 3 pick be near-impossible to avoid.

[Shade8780]

Considering Josh Smith was looking for a max contract and guys like Rudy Gay is making 17 million this year and 19 million next year yes it's a steal for what Smith brings defensively and on the offensive end.
Chucking threes?

[hawkfan]

Considering Josh Smith was looking for a max contract and guys like Rudy Gay is making 17 million this year and 19 million next year yes it's a steal for what Smith brings defensively and on the offensive end.

Drummond-CV (expirer) - first round pick for 2014 for Rondo and Bass.

Boston goes into full scale rebuild, getting a young, developing big in Drummond a first round pick in 2014 and gets rid of 2 big contracts.

Detroit gets Rondo to start at point guard, Bass to start at power forward.

Detroit signs Monta Ellis.

Rondo-Ellis-Smith-Bass-Monroe - not a bad starting trio - should win 48-50 games with this bunch.

[millwad]

Stupid, Josh Smith is wasting the best years of his career for a garbage team.

[ZMonkey11]

;liusf; quw09f uq9[u fpa9wuefoajwef FIRE JOE D!!!!@

[RagaZ]

Mercenary.

[hawkfan]

Stupid, Josh Smith is wasting the best years of his career for a garbage team.

If the Pistons get Rondo and Ellis, he won't be.

[Shade8780]

Yeah, I'm thinking this has to be a move to justify trading Drummond or Monroe for Rondo. I hope that is the case. I want the Celts to be real bad - not b/c I dislike them (why I want LAL to be bad), but b/c I want their chances to have a Top 3 pick be near-impossible to avoid.
I would love Danny forever if we got Monroe :bowdown:

[longtime lurker]

Chucking threes?

He gets you 18 points and 4 assists from the forward position so yeah.....

[EricGordon23]

Thats messed up as a Detroit fan I'm pissed!

[Peteballa]

There's no way they trade Monroe... He's their most valuable asset... If anything, it's Drummond going to Boston for Rondo, even though I don't see that happening either because Drummond showed serious potential this year. I don't know what the **** Detroit is doing.

[KG215]

Considering Josh Smith was looking for a max contract and guys like Rudy Gay is making 17 million this year and 19 million next year yes it's a steal for what Smith brings defensively and on the offensive end.
Meh...I still disagree. Around $14M/year sounds about right, and I think that might even be pushing it. Just because Rudy Gay is severely overpaid doesn't make $14M/year for Josh Smith a steal.

[fpliii]

Horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible signing for both sides. ****ing treadmill teams. Either go for it or tank.

[Shade8780]

There's no way they trade Monroe... He's their most valuable asset... If anything, it's Drummond going to Boston for Rondo, even though I don't see that happening either because Drummond showed serious potential this year. I don't know what the **** Detroit is doing.
I'd be happy with Drummond too :bowdown:

[Pra]

There's gotta be something else in the works for Detroit.

with Smith/Monroe & Drummond you'd need an Ellis like player for instant offense and a little spacing otherwise Smith going to shoot a crap ton of threes :facepalm

They're probably looking to move Monroe if I had to guess. Too bad AI2 was signed since they could play smith @ the 4 with AI2 playing the 3.

[ace23]

Horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible signing for both sides. ****ing treadmill teams. Either go for it or tank.
This

[NattyPButter]

this is not horrible at all. They are going to trade one of those bigs. People just wanted to see Smith with Howard that's why a lot of you think it's horrible.

[fragokota]

Stupid, Josh Smith is wasting the best years of his career for a garbage team.

People have to understand that these guys don't just play for the love of the sport or fame or winning.Above all it's about money.If this contract offer is much more above any other offers then it weights more than playing for a winning team

[nbarumorz]

the Rondo-Smith connection would be quite sexy if the pistons can pull it off

[EricGordon23]

this is not horrible at all. They are going to trade one of those bigs. People just wanted to see Smith with Howard that's why a lot of you think it's horrible.

Not the case at all! People are mad because they wanted to see how Monroe and Drummond would develop together since they compliment each other so well.

[Stuckey]

uhhhh

























sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

[fpliii]

Does this mean that Anderson to Houston is a near-certainty?

[DukeDelonte13]

very surprising. Going to be interesting watching Det, Cle, Wash, and Toronto this season.

[atljonesbro]

The salty Rockets fans are hilarious.

But best of luck to Josh he will be missed here in Atlanta :cry:

[ZMonkey11]

this is not horrible at all. They are going to trade one of those bigs. People just wanted to see Smith with Howard that's why a lot of you think it's horrible.

YOU SMOKING CRACK?!??

IT'S BECAUSE HE'S JOSH SMITH! FIRE JOE D!!!!

[KG215]

Does this mean that Anderson to Houston is a near-certainty?
That was all speculation to begin with. I don't remember the exact Tweet, but it's been put out there a few times that the Pelicans aren't even a little bit interested in that trade right now. Doesn't mean they won't change their mind, but whoever was putting that out there to begin with was just speculating I think.

The trade does make too much sense, though, for both sides to at least not entertain the thought, but right now the Pelicans aren't interested.

[PleezeBelieve]

Drummond and Monroe are hugely overrated. If Dumars can get Rondo for either of those guys plus Knight then he's GM of the decade.

Rondo
Georgia SG
Singler
Smith
Drummond/Monroe

That's a 50 win team there.

[Crafty]

Why?

[fpliii]

That was all speculation to begin with. I don't remember the exact Tweet, but it's been put out there a few times that the Pelicans aren't even a little bit interested in that trade right now. Doesn't mean they won't change their mind, but whoever was putting that out there to begin with was just speculating I think.

The trade does make too much sense, though, for both sides to at least not entertain the thought, but right now the Pelicans aren't interested.

Ah okay, thanks.

:cheers:

[PleezeBelieve]

You internet GMs kill me. Pistons making moves while the Cavs sign pedestrian talent that have no position.

I like what they are doing KCP will be the best SG taken in the draft and a Smith + Drummond combo will be lighting rims up for a very long time.

[Fiasco]

Makes sense if the Pistons think they can land Rondo.

[KG215]

You internet GMs kill me. Pistons making moves while the Cavs sign pedestrian talent that have no position.

I like what they are doing KCP will be the best SG taken in the draft and a Smith + Drummond combo will be lighting rims up for a very long time.
Says the guy with a shit track record.

[Hotlantadude81]

The Hawks might just miss the playoffs. They will struggle to score and now rebound.

[atljonesbro]

The Hawks might just miss the playoffs. They will struggle to score and now rebound.
Millsap rebounds more than Smith PER36.

[LBJMVP]

Gotta agree with pb. If the pistons can trade Drummond, 2014 pick, and expirers then this team will look great. While us cleveland fans were promised a very active in agency and we have signed Clark and there really hasn't been word of anything else.

[FireMcFailPlease]

Makes sense if the Pistons think they can land Rondo.
Yea. Look out east.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Hotlantadude81]

Millsap rebounds more than Smith PER36.

The year Millsap played 34 minutes (about what Smith plays) he averaged less than 8 rebounds per game. Millsap's rebounding seems to be up and down a bit from year to year. Josh's was obviously boosted a few years ago because of Al not being in the line up. The team is less athletic up front and possibly worse at rebounding. We shall see I guess.

[PickernRoller]

56 Mill for a guy that can hardly guard a 34 year old....:lol

http://youtu.be/Nn2DQNZMyPs?t=5m

[CelticBaller]

Rondo going to detroit :banana:

[NattyPButter]

Gotta agree with pb. If the pistons can trade Drummond, 2014 pick, and expirers then this team will look great. While us cleveland fans were promised a very active in agency and we have signed Clark and there really hasn't been word of anything else.

I rather the team not go crazy with all that money. Just look at all those FA in 2014. A lot of good players to go along with a good draft.

[Noyze]

Dumars looks signing tweeners. This one will also blow up in his face.

[Rik Smits' Hair]

Smith isn't worth that much money. But I welcome Detroit remaining mediocre

[KyleKong]

Why would Josh Smith leave a solid playoff team for a rebuilding team.

In ****ing Detroit?

[CelticBaller]

Smith isn't worth that much money. But I welcome Detroit remaining mediocre
I also welcome the fact that they could persuade Rondo into leaving the Celtics :D
Give us Drummond/Monroe! :banana:

[No Evans!]

The Hawks might just miss the playoffs. They will struggle to score and now rebound.

STFU.....so you're a Josh Smith fan now?

[Qwyjibo]

Another East team clearly not tanking and trying for 1st round exits in the near-future. Excellent!

[atljonesbro]

Another East team clearly not tanking and trying for 1st round exits in the near-future. Excellent!

You can't build a contender over night. Unless you buy success lie the Heat. They are accumulating pieces to build a contender, it takes time. I swear this forum is like a middle school locker room discussing basketball.

[alenleomessi]

why would the pistons trade drummond for rondo and even add a 1st round pick from the best draft in years :roll:

[leopoldstotch]

Cleveland fans after watching this signing

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf120493cr1qf9iofo1_400.jpg

[Trollsmasher]

Makes no sense:facepalm

[ZMonkey11]

He has to be looking to move Monroe for a PG that can push the ball up court and fast. Namely Rondo.

If Pistons call pull off a trade for Rondo, you think this could be a likely starting lineup?

PG - Rondo
SG - Knight
SF -Caldwell-Pope
PF - Josh Smith
C - Drummond

Obvious deficiency in SG defense. Caldwell-Pope would be undersized at the SF on defense, but he is a good defender and will still pester some of the bigger SF in the league. And if the driver beats the perimeter D, two erasers on the inside to swat away shots.

On offense, Lob City v2.0. Throw it up and see how far it can go. Not working on the interior and you have 2 great perimeter shooters to hit the 3s. Knight will still have some ability to put the ball on the floor and make a bucket/play with penetration as well.

I don't see it as tooooooo bad if they get Rondo. If they don't, I'll be really really sad.

[CelticBaller]

why would the pistons trade drummond for rondo and even add a 1st round pick from the best draft in years :roll:
Because they signed Josh Smith for 4 years

[Qwyjibo]

You can't build a contender over night. Unless you buy success lie the Heat. They are accumulating pieces to build a contender, it takes time. I swear this forum is like a middle school locker room discussing basketball.
And signing a 28 year old player whose production is almost entirely dependant on his athleticism to a 4 year deal is an example of "taking your time" to build a contender? For a team that just came off a lottery season? Gotcha!

[hawkfan]

The Hawks might just miss the playoffs. They will struggle to score and now rebound.

Hell freezes over.
This might be the first positive thing Hotatlanta has said about Josh Smith.

[Peteballa]

Cleveland fans after watching this signing

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf120493cr1qf9iofo1_400.jpg

:roll: Those two videos are HILARIOUS

[Qwyjibo]

why would the pistons trade drummond for rondo and even add a 1st round pick from the best draft in years :roll:
I think the Pistons are feeling guilty about the 2012 draft and are going to be correcting a major error.

Lowry, Gay, Ross for Drummond + shit contracts

You owe us this Detroit!

[atljonesbro]

And signing a 28 year old player whose production is almost entirely dependant on his athleticism to a 4 year deal is an example of "taking your time" to build a contender? For a team that just came off a lottery season? Gotcha!
You play way to much 2k13. Teams don't just sign players 24 years old or younger. This move puts them in a better position to go after Rondo giving them the ability to trade a big man. Players don't just magically get bad when they are 30 despite what nba 2k tells you. Smith will still be a good player for the next 4 to 5 years.

But hell what do I know you're on THE INTERNET giving your insight while their is a REAL GM OUT THERE making moves. You are much more qualified than him and will probably will executive of the year tbh.

[embersyc]

Drummond ain't going anywhere calm down people.

[hawkfan]

I think the Pistons are feeling guilty about the 2012 draft and are going to be correcting a major error.

Lowry, Gay, Ross for Drummond + shit contracts

You owe us this Detroit!

Toronto gets

Drew Gooden

Milwaukee gets

Rudy Gay

The Raptors get rid of 13 million dollars in salary for this year and next to help them rebuild.

The Bucks get a scorer at small forward.

[HomieWeMajor]

Dumars looks signing tweeners. This one will also blow up in his face.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/9a1e7d94a81bf017cc63cff2bca9c0d8/tumblr_mi1he1dhav1r9yup6o1_400.gif

[veilside23]

why? Not unless they arent done yet.... i guess we will soon find out

[Spaulding]

Pistons? Dafuq?

[Qwyjibo]

You play way to much 2k13. Teams don't just sign players 24 years old or younger. This move puts them in a better position to go after Rondo giving them the ability to trade a big man. Players don't just magically get bad when they are 30 despite what nba 2k tells you. Smith will still be a good player for the next 4 to 5 years.

But hell what do I know you're on THE INTERNET giving your insight while their is a REAL GM OUT THERE making moves. You are much more qualified than him and will probably will executive of the year tbh.
You are posting on the internet too. Why are you giving your opinion about moves then? I wouldn't be attacking your argument because of that. That would make no sense. I'd be attacking it because it's idiotic.

Players do get worse once they enter their 30's. They may not be bad but their best years are behind them so expect at the very least a gradual decline. There is no magical cut-off date but expect the player to only get worse at that point. This is a proven fact (Google some studies). Go look at decades of data about players and their production in years 30+ compared to the standard prime years. And Josh Smith came out of high school playing relatively big minutes. Age-wise he's reaching the end of his "prime" but he also has quite a bit of mileage on him.

If the Pistons make other moves to get them into serious contention then sure, not a bad move. If they just get Smith and the rest is waiting on Monroe and Drummond then the timing doesn't match up. A 2nd round appearance is their ceiling.

[alenleomessi]

I think the Pistons are feeling guilty about the 2012 draft and are going to be correcting a major error.

Lowry, Gay, Ross for Drummond + shit contracts

You owe us this Detroit!
yeah man would be nice but aint gonna happen

even if you guys finish the season with zero wins and have like 95% to win the draft lottery you probably still wont get the first pick ( wiggins ) and end up getting a bust 2nd pick while the 3rd 4th and 5th pick are all upcoming stars

[Qwyjibo]

yeah man would be nice but aint gonna happen

even if you guys finish the season with zero wins and have like 95% to win the draft lottery you probably still wont get the first pick ( wiggins ) and end up getting a bust 2nd pick while the 3rd 4th and 5th pick are all upcoming stars
Don't care about just the 1st pick. It would be great, obviously, but this will be a deep draft assuming everyone declares. Getting a top 3 or even top 5 pick would be great. It's all on the management to make the right choice at that point.

[sfballa13]

Monroe, Knight, Stuckey, Charlie V, Jerebko
for
Rondo, Green, Bass, Lee

Pistons sign Chauncey and a veteran C

Rondo / Billups
KCP / Lee
Green / Singler
Smith / Bass
Drummond / Vet C

Boston saves 25M AND gets Monroe and Knight... would say it's a fair deal on both sides.

[Nash]

Is that all he gets?

[teddytwelvetoes]

Monroe, Knight, Stuckey, Charlie V, Jerebko
for
Rondo, Green, Bass, Lee

Pistons sign Chauncey and a veteran C

Rondo / Billups
KCP / Lee
Green / Singler
Smith / Bass
Drummond / Vet C

Boston saves 25M AND gets Monroe and Knight... would say it's a fair deal on both sides.lol not getting Rondo unless Drummond is involved

[RIP CITY]

I don't love the contract and Josh Smith obviously has flaws in his game but you have to remember this is the Detroit Pistons, no one wants to come here. Even in the early 2000's when we were one relatively small piece away from winning multiple Championships we couldn't get anyone to come here. To get even a player like Josh Smith to come here is an accomplishment, sad as that may sound to some of you. It's not a perfect fit but I disagree with people who think he's only a PF, he was a PF in Atlanta because that team was built poorly. Horford and Smith both played out of position because they either couldn't or refused to get any Center worthy of starting. Seems to me that their previous GM was committed to small ball, which doesn't work most of the time unless you have some extra ordinarily talented players (Like Miami).

Josh Smith's natural position to me, is and always has been SF. He's a slasher/finisher not a shooter but he's a SF nonetheless. He can play PF, you might even want to call him a hybrid, that makes sense but he'll be fine at SF in my opinion.

He won't hinder the development of Drummond/Monroe, that's up to them to work to become better players and Smith isn't taking either of their spots he'll be playing next to them at SF and when one of them goes to the bench he can slide over and play some PF. He provides positional versatility because of his ability to play PF as well.

I hear alot of people saying this is a commitment to mediocrity and in the end they may end up being the case but this team was not mediocre yesterday, it was awful. This move makes us mediocre and this move is not the last move to be made. The Pistons still have 7-9 million in cap space and another 19 million coming off the books next offseason, they still have alot of flexibility, a couple expirings to offer in trades and some young players that aren't untouchable that can be moved if the deal is right.

It's not perfect but it's a step in the right direction. The contract isn't great but it doesn't cripple the team financially. It's market value for Smith whether you agree with it or not, he'll be making slightly more than he made last year. What it does do is give the Pistons a frontline of Drummond/Monroe and Smith. It's not going to be easy to score on that frontline, that frontline should make the Pistons one of the better rebounding teams in the League. The team had no slasher, Josh gives us that. The team lacked athleticism, Smith adds that. The team needed someone on the wing that can score, Smith can score and despite the dumb 3's he jacks up he still shoots 47% from the field and he's been trending down in 3 point attempts, he seems to be alittle smarter with his shot selection. I know he's still going to shoot them but it's not like the guy is shooting 5 of them a game. He still knows his game is finishing and slashing.

This team has been rebuilding for 5 years already, this might not be the greatest signing of all-time but it's time to start moving forward. The Pistons were never winning the Lottery and getting Wiggins, hell, they weren't even guaranteed to have a Pick next year. They owe Charlotte a Pick and it's only Top 8 protected, no matter what the Pistons did in Free Agency there was a pretty good chance they would finish alittle higher than that and have to give that Pick up. Tanking really wasn't an option.

I'm fine with the signing, would have been better for 12 Million per but I knew all along if the Pistons were going to get anyone they would have to overpay. It's a pretty significant talent upgrade to a team that really only has 3-4 talented players. It could be alot worse, it has been alot worse the last 5 years.

[Peteballa]

RIP CITY :applause: Better analysis than the ones I see on ESPN or anyone else on ISH. I'm glad you're happy with the signing, Pistons have had a rough few years.

[DeuceWallaces]

I'm not in love with it, but it's not nearly as bad people here are saying; even if they don't make another move. Pistons have been terrible for 4-5 years and it's unbearable. I'll gladly take a 5th series and a close first round playoff series.

The spacing won't be too bad. Monroe operates in the mid post anyway, and then Drummond down low with Smith attacking the basket and shooting a low percentage from 3. You just hope Pope and Knight provide solid outside shooting.

[Asiantastic]

PG: Knight
SG: KCP
SF: Smith
PF: Monroe
C: Drummond

Not a bad lineup imo. Knight and KCP can definitely spread the floor around the 3. Monroe has somewhat of a mid range and a great inside game. The paint could be occupied by Smith/Monroe/Drummond.

As long as Smith doesn't get used to taking too many jumpers, then it should work. I don't see the need to trade for Rondo, especially if they have to give up Monroe/Drummond.

[goldenryan]

I've come outta retirement to say I like this deal. Even if we don't get Rondo you can give 3 bigs 96 mins. The lakers did it with Bynum,Gasol,Odom. Detroit hasn't done shit since 2008, let it play out.

[che guevara]

I'm not in love with it, but it's not nearly as bad people here are saying; even if they don't make another move. Pistons have been terrible for 4-5 years and it's unbearable. I'll gladly take a 5th series and a close first round playoff series.

The spacing won't be too bad. Monroe operates in the mid post anyway, and then Drummond down low with Smith attacking the basket and shooting a low percentage from 3. You just hope Pope and Knight provide solid outside shooting.
The spacing will definitely suck. Even 10 years ago you could've gotten away with 3 non-shooters, but that really just doesn't work anymore, teams are just too smart, too quick defensively. Look at what happened to the Grizzles for example, their spacing was awful, but even they had better spacing and talent than the Pistons (Randolph and Gasol can both step out and hit the long 2 at a good percentage, Conley is better than any guard on the Pistons, good backup in Bayless, etc). The lane is going to be clogged nearly 100% of the time with Smith/Monroe/Drummond on the floor, no team is going to be afraid of them 15+ feet from the basket. There won't be any space for the frontcourt to operate. If this team makes the playoffs, it's going to be because they're really good defensively. I can't imagine them even being average on offense.

Don't like this move at all by the Pistons. It means that either they're going to trade Monroe (bad move), have one of the 3 bigs come off the bench (a waste of talent), or have all 3 on the floor for big chunks of time (lane will be perpetually clogged, no space at all to operate for the bigs). Not a single playoff team this season had such little shooting, aside from maybe the Lakers. Perplexing signing by Joe D.

[Awkrewen]

I think that Detroit may be still planning a Trade for Gay or perhaps both Gay and Lowry. I dont think they are done adding pieces.

[Qwyjibo]

I think that Detroit may be still planning a Trade for Gay or perhaps both Gay and Lowry. I dont think they are done adding pieces.
I love your line of thinking.

[UConnCeltics]

Gay and Lowry? Please. Celtics will give you Rondo and Green for Villanueva, Stuckey, and Drummond! Hell, Detroit can have Sully too.

Rondo/Knight
KCP/Singler
Green/scrub
Smith/Maxiell
Monroe/scrub

[hawkfan]

If Boston moves Rondo, Wallace will most likely be attached.

Pistons get

Rajan Rondo
Gerald Wallace
Jordan Crawford
MarShon Brooks

Celtics get

Greg Monroe
Brandon Knight
Charlie Villanueva (expirer)
Rodney Stuckey (expirer)

[Kujo]

Another East team clearly not tanking and trying for 1st round exits in the near-future. Excellent!

This just furthers the Raptors chances to be one of the worst 3 teams in the East. I ain't mad. Tank for Wiggins!

[spiegel]

That's a lot of money for Josh Smith.Glad we didn't get him. I guess the rumors about Morey wanting Asik back were true.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Would love to watch Smoove and Gay on the same team.

Monta / Joe / Gay / Smoove / McGee would be the dream.

[Funnyfuka]

What's the point? Now the development of the combination of Monroe and Drummond is going to be slowed down unless J-Smoove plays SF


MONEY?

[3LiftHeatCurse]

Not a good sign when a player takes money over winning.

From the Hawks, a treadmill playoff team, to the Pistons, an even worse borderline playoff team.

[coin24]

Dumars:facepalm :facepalm

Why would anyone sign smith to a big contract he sucks:lol
Even if they make other moves he's a bonehead

[Nastradamus]

Monroe,Stuckey,Knight and Jerebko for Rondo,Green and Lee.

[bdreason]

I tell you what, a Smith - Monroe - Drummond front-court would be devastating defensively.

I think they plan on bringing Drummond off the bench. Move his minutes up from 20 to 30 mpg, and play him along side Monroe or Smith through stretches of the game, or depending on matchups.

[DeuceWallaces]

Monroe,Stuckey,Knight and Jerebko for Rondo,Green and Lee.

THey're not getting Monroe and Knight for Rondo.

[Hotlantadude81]

Al wishes Josh well:

https://twitter.com/Al_Horford

Again, no mention of Millsap. I bet Al hates the idea of playing center some more.

[Meticode]

I think this is a mistake on the Pistons part. I just don't see that offense fitting together well.

[SourGrapes]

THey're not getting Monroe and Knight for Rondo.

Are you overrating knight or Monroe or underrating rondo?

[hawkfan]

Hawks should have kept Josh and signed Al Jefferson = 3 20 ppg scorers at the bigs.

[Rocastle]

Good analysis RIP CITY. I like the move for us, we desperately needed pure talent upgrades.

[Nastradamus]

People need to understand that Drummond is untouchable, period.

IMO, Monroe should have more trade value than Rondo. 23 year old big who's 17,11 and 3 per 36 compared to a 27 year old PG coming off an ACL injury while being an athleticism based player who can't shoot. Oh, and has a shitty attitude. JMO

[Nastradamus]

THey're not getting Monroe and Knight for Rondo.

Well we get Green too, which I think would be huge. A true SF who can defend the position and shoot 3s would complement the rest of our frontcourt well

[Nash]

Do not touch Monroe, he's the next elite PF.

[Orlando Magic]

True beginning of the end for Dumars.

[Orlando Magic]

Another East team clearly not tanking and trying for 1st round exits in the near-future. Excellent!

This.

[J-Futuristic]

When it comes to Smoove people love to talk about what he can't do rather than what he's good at. He is good enough to elevate the Pistons to a playoff spot, which is better than what they have been doing these past years. People forget 2 years ago when Joe Johnson and Al were hurts most the season it was Josh who was carrying the Hawks to that 4th seed.

[UConnCeltics]

There are 96 minutes available at the 4 and 5, surely it could work.

Drummond: 30 at center (+10 mpg from last year)
Monroe: 18 at center, 15 at PF (same average minutes as last year)
Smith: 33 at PF (think he would be playing one minute less per game)

[Just2McFly]

wtf why didnt the hawks do a sign and trade

[Orlando Magic]

When it comes to Smoove people love to talk about what he can't do rather than what he's good at. He is good enough to elevate the Pistons to a playoff spot, which is better than what they have been doing these past years. People forget 2 years ago when Joe Johnson and Al were hurts most the season it was Josh who was carrying the Hawks to that 4th seed.

You're right. He's just good enough to keep them out of the lottery and just good enough to take up too much cap space and just bad enough to keep them from contending.

Aka great news for the rest off the league. Thanks again Dumars... lol

[hawkfan]

You're right. He's just good enough to keep them out of the lottery and just good enough to take up too much cap space and just bad enough to keep them from contending.

Aka great news for the rest off the league. Thanks again Dumars... lol

They traded away one of their first round picks - might be 2014.
So no point in Detroit being in that particular lottery.