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TMacYaoRockets
07-06-2013, 05:11 PM
Full @Shaq quote on @DwightHoward leaving #Lakers for #Rockets: "The Dwight Howard thing, it was expected. We've all been in LA, and not a whole lot of people can handle being under the bright lights. Everybody wants to do it, but when you get there, there are certain pressures. I think it was a safe move for him to go to a little town like Houston. That's right, little town. I said it."

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rl7a25

Shaq needs to shut up.

mattvNJ
07-06-2013, 05:12 PM
shaq putting dwight in his rightfully place as a good talent who will never sniff what shaq brought to the table.

BOSS, u still suck on tv though

All Net
07-06-2013, 05:12 PM
He's an idiot.. Wish he was off TV

MJ(Mean John)
07-06-2013, 05:12 PM
Oh what?

Shaq keeping it raw as F.uck. He's being real.

MMKM
07-06-2013, 05:15 PM
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rl7a25

Shaq needs to shut up.

I don't know why shaq feels threatened by Dwight Howard. He's basically Shaq-Lite, doesn't even come close to Shaq but Shaq still seems insecure about it

DavisWarriorsFan
07-06-2013, 05:19 PM
I don't know why shaq feels threatened by Dwight Howard. He's basically Shaq-Lite, doesn't even come close to Shaq but Shaq still seems insecure about it
Cause Dwight is a mental midget. More so than LeBron is.

SilkkTheShocker
07-06-2013, 05:20 PM
"Little town"? Does he not realize Houston is the fattest city in the country? Im pretty sure even their tooth paste is deep fried

SCdac
07-06-2013, 05:21 PM
I don't know why shaq feels threatened by Dwight Howard. He's basically Shaq-Lite, doesn't even come close to Shaq but Shaq still seems insecure about it

I think the whole "Superman" thing was the last straw for Shaq, but agreed his ego is huge and he should just let it go. Howard is not close to him at all.

KyleKong
07-06-2013, 05:21 PM
"Little town"? Does he not realize Houston is the fattest city in the country? Im pretty sure even their tooth paste is deep fried

:coleman:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Uncle Drew
07-06-2013, 05:21 PM
"Little town"? Does he not realize Houston is the fattest city in the country? Im pretty sure even their tooth paste is deep fried
:roll: :roll:

CelticBaller
07-06-2013, 05:22 PM
"Little town"? Does he not realize Houston is the fattest city in the country? Im pretty sure even their tooth paste is deep fried
:lol

OldSkoolball#52
07-06-2013, 05:24 PM
Didnt Kobe once demand to be traded out of LA when the going got tough?

Shaq wanted to stay at the time he was traded, but they didnt wanna pay him.

I guess Shaq can handle it, Kobe and Dwight not so much.

OldSkoolball#52
07-06-2013, 05:27 PM
"Little town"? Does he not realize Houston is the fattest city in the country? Im pretty sure even their tooth paste is deep fried


Damn Silk, rockin that David Kleinfeld avatar.

Like a boss :bowdown:

Xsatyr
07-06-2013, 05:27 PM
I like how the media keeps talking about the pressure of being in LA as if that was the deciding factor. The Lakers are old and declining; the media is just butt-hurt.



"Little town"? Does he not realize Houston is the fattest city in the country? Im pretty sure even their tooth paste is deep fried

It's not but whatever.

Soundwave
07-06-2013, 05:27 PM
Tying your future to a 35-year-old coming off a ruptured Achilles is not a smart option.

And Jim Buss sucks. Period.

A logo is just a logo, it's nothing without the people behind it, Lakers need to stop thinking they can just live off their past accomplishments and have people impressed by that.

longtime lurker
07-06-2013, 05:27 PM
Shaq is often wrong but not this time. He hit the nail on the head. Howard is a mental midget and wants all the success but can't handle the scrutiny. If he succeeds in Houston then everyone will kiss his ass, if he fails in Houston there won't be as much criticism.

SilkkTheShocker
07-06-2013, 05:30 PM
Damn Silk, rockin that David Kleinfeld avatar.

Like a boss :bowdown:


http://farm1.staticflickr.com/194/443741143_a535a013c9.jpg

DavisWarriorsFan
07-06-2013, 05:32 PM
Didnt Kobe once demand to be traded out of LA when the going got tough?

Shaq wanted to stay at the time he was traded, but they didnt wanna pay him.

I guess Shaq can handle it, Kobe and Dwight not so much.
Lakers weren't doing anything to improve the roster 3 years after the Finals. Kobe had to do something to get the GM's ass off his seat.

che guevara
07-06-2013, 05:33 PM
Shaq is often wrong but not this time. He hit the nail on the head. Howard is a mental midget and wants all the success but can't handle the scrutiny. If he succeeds in Houston then everyone will kiss his ass, if he fails in Houston there won't be as much criticism.
Uh, no, this has nothing to do with why Howard signed with Houston. Dwight would be a complete moron if he resigned with the Lakers, their core players are all in their mid 30s or later, and they're not getting any better in the near future. Houston is a young, up and coming team with better shooters, better management (lol @ Jim Buss), and a better superstar. Harden's only 23 and is already better than Kobe was last season, and that's before his Achilles injury. It was a no-brainer for Dwight to leave LA, that team isn't doing anything for the next 3-4 years.

che guevara
07-06-2013, 05:35 PM
Lakers weren't doing anything to improve the roster 3 years after the Finals. Kobe had to do something to get the GM's ass off his seat.
:cry: OMG, poor Kobe, not having a championship caliber cast for 3 seasons out of his 17 year career. What an injustice.

TMacYaoRockets
07-06-2013, 05:35 PM
Uh, no, this has nothing to do with why Howard signed with Houston. Dwight would be a complete moron if he resigned with the Lakers, their core players are all in their mid 30s or later, and they're not getting any better in the near future. Houston is a young, up and coming team with better shooters, better management (lol @ Jim Buss), and a better superstar. Harden's only 23 and is already better than Kobe was last season, and that's before his Achilles injury. It was a no-brainer for Dwight to leave LA, that team isn't doing anything for the next 3-4 years.
I disagree. Kobe is still better than James Harden.

ispin69
07-06-2013, 05:36 PM
I don't get why Cryant fans are so insecure about Shaq and Dwight.

Crafty
07-06-2013, 05:36 PM
"Little town"? Does he not realize Houston is the fattest city in the country? Im pretty sure even their tooth paste is deep fried
i missed this guy

Lebron23
07-06-2013, 05:36 PM
:cry: OMG, poor Kobe, not having a championship caliber cast for 3 seasons out of his 17 year career. What an injustice.


that guy is an idiot, and mentally retarded. kobe had a good supporting cast. Way better than cleveland lebron.

Scoooter
07-06-2013, 05:37 PM
He's absolutely right. Even with this line-up, no one will care if the Rockets don't win a championship.

AngelEyes
07-06-2013, 05:37 PM
I disagree. Kobe is still better than James Harden.

Going in to next season? Hell no. He's a 35 year old shooting guard with an insane amount of mileage coming off a torn achilles.

Lebron23
07-06-2013, 05:39 PM
I disagree. Kobe is still better than James Harden.


another dumb @$$.

lakerspng
07-06-2013, 05:39 PM
honestly it's better for the Lakers and for Dwight and for Houston.

Lakers don't have to try and build around a guy that clearly doesn't want to be here and is wrong for the franchise long term, even though he's a easy and safe choice short term.

Dwight gets a scenario that works for him with young talent and less pressure.

Houston has an exciting product for their fans.

everyone just move on.

lakerspng
07-06-2013, 05:41 PM
that guy is an idiot, and mentally retarded. kobe had a good supporting cast. Way better than cleveland lebron.

Kobe had a terrible cast.

And I can't believe anyone would fault any player who wanted a better chance to win and got angry when management didn't do everything it could to make it so. If I was in the league and wasn't on a contender 17 out of my 17 season I'd be pissed. that's what it means to be competitive. You want to win every single time if you can.

KingsFan416
07-06-2013, 05:41 PM
Lakers weren't doing anything to improve the roster 3 years after the Finals. Kobe had to do something to get the GM's ass off his seat.
Lakers were lazy!

ZHAKIDD532
07-06-2013, 05:42 PM
Houston isn't exactly a little town...

longtime lurker
07-06-2013, 05:43 PM
Uh, no, this has nothing to do with why Howard signed with Houston. Dwight would be a complete moron if he resigned with the Lakers, their core players are all in their mid 30s or later, and they're not getting any better in the near future. Houston is a young, up and coming team with better shooters, better management (lol @ Jim Buss), and a better superstar. Harden's only 23 and is already better than Kobe was last season, and that's before his Achilles injury. It was a no-brainer for Dwight to leave LA, that team isn't doing anything for the next 3-4 years.

This is a 100% why he signed in Houston. Dwight is scared of the pressure. If he loses in Houston then he can at least say hey I have fun playing with my friends. Must I remind you LA has cap space next season. So it doesn't matter what you think about the next 3-4 years because it's irrelevant. They'd get better players and possibly even better players than Harden. Harden wasn't a better player than a 34 year old Kobe last year and the Rockets were worse than the Lakers despite all their injuries. Dwight didn't see the big picture and he couldn't handle the criticism that comes with being in a big market. LA's management was able to trade for Chris Paul and Howard the last 2 seasons despite not supposedly having any assets that any team wanted. Dwight was just scared plain and simple and Shaq rightly called him out. He's someone who's been in the exact same situation so you can't say he doesn't know what he's talking about.

KingsFan416
07-06-2013, 05:43 PM
:cry: OMG, poor Kobe, not having a championship caliber cast for 3 seasons out of his 17 year career. What an injustice.
Actually, it was more than that. They didn't do much to improve the roster even during the 3peat era. The 3peat Lakers bench sucked.

Heavincent
07-06-2013, 05:44 PM
Didnt Kobe once demand to be traded out of LA when the going got tough?

Shaq wanted to stay at the time he was traded, but they didnt wanna pay him.

I guess Shaq can handle it, Kobe and Dwight not so much.

Do you ever stop thinking about Kobe?

DuMa
07-06-2013, 05:48 PM
It appears Shaq has let me down. I thought he would take this opportunity to rag on Kobe and the Lakers organization a bit.

major let down, Shaquille

step_back
07-06-2013, 05:48 PM
I'm not a fan of Dwight. I think he's over rated and a total liability on the offensive end but why do Laker fans think it's because he couldn't handle the pressure of being a Laker? Your team is old and your coach ****ing sucks!

LeBron has never played in historic franchises. He snubbed my Bulls to go to Miami. It turned out to be the best decision for him and as unpopular as it made him he now has two chips because of it. No one said it was because he couldn't handle playing on the "big" stage.

I think some Laker fans have a bruised ego that not everyone wants to play for your beloved franchise.

wang4three
07-06-2013, 05:57 PM
That little town once swept Shaq from a title in '95.

Goldrush25
07-06-2013, 06:03 PM
Can Howard handle the "bright lights" or whatever? I don't know.

I don't know why that's the reason everyone wants to point to as to why he didn't go back to L.A. Why can't it be because he doesn't want to play for a stubborn, overrated coach (and D'Antoni is awful by everyone's estimation)? Why can't it be that he feels that the Lakers future is bleak at best? That's what most everyone else outside of Lakers' nation can see.

Is it just that Lakers' followers find it more palatable to blame it on him shying away from the bright lights, rather than to come to grips that the Lakers aren't going to be very good in the coming years?

Lakers are acting like the past-her-prime hot girl that finally is getting rejected. It can't be because she doesn't have it anymore, so something must be wrong with the guy. And I'm not saying that there is nothing wrong with Dwight. There clearly is, but the Lakers are headed for some tough times. Howard would be blind to not see that.

NASH = BEST
07-06-2013, 06:11 PM
This is a 100% why he signed in Houston. Dwight is scared of the pressure. If he loses in Houston then he can at least say hey I have fun playing with my friends. Must I remind you LA has cap space next season. So it doesn't matter what you think about the next 3-4 years because it's irrelevant. They'd get better players and possibly even better players than Harden. Harden wasn't a better player than a 34 year old Kobe last year and the Rockets were worse than the Lakers despite all their injuries. Dwight didn't see the big picture and he couldn't handle the criticism that comes with being in a big market. LA's management was able to trade for Chris Paul and Howard the last 2 seasons despite not supposedly having any assets that any team wanted. Dwight was just scared plain and simple and Shaq rightly called him out. He's someone who's been in the exact same situation so you can't say he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Agree with Shaq and this post.

Dwight was intimidated of living up to the expectations that came with being a Laker. Its daunting specially when the first question that was asked when he got to LA was if "he is the next great big man" to play for the Lakers. Its big shoes to fill when everyone is counting on you to be the next all-time great.

I read an article today about Dwight calling himself a winner already cause he was in the NBA and didn't need to win a championship to be one. :facepalm

But now he doesn't have to worry about any of that cause he's going to have "Fun". Lol

Pacquiao
07-06-2013, 07:15 PM
Houston is a bigger city and have larger TV market revenue than Miami Florida

TheFan
07-06-2013, 07:18 PM
I don't know why shaq feels threatened by Dwight Howard. He's basically Shaq-Lite, doesn't even come close to Shaq but Shaq still seems insecure about it

yeah, Shaq always bad mouthing Howard, leave the guy alone.
They are not even the same type of player... heck Bynum(healthy) was closer to Shaq than Howard... Howard is more like Alonzo Morning...

StocktonFan
07-06-2013, 07:20 PM
Houston isn't exactly a little town...

It was relative you morons....

PickernRoller
07-06-2013, 07:20 PM
I like how the media keeps talking about the pressure of being in LA as if that was the deciding factor. The Lakers are old and declining; the media is just butt-hurt.



It's the same media saying the Lakers are old, Jim Buss is incompetent and that Kobe and D'Antoni drove him off.....

What makes those factors any more relevant? Cause it might seem like a more convincing idea? LoL noone and I mean noone is inside Dwight's head.

It's all opinions in the end. No need to get salty with the media. Rumor mill journalism at its finest.

niko
07-06-2013, 07:36 PM
Calling Houston a little town is stupid but clearly some of this was Dwight running off to a city that had softer media and lower expectations. The way Shaq said it was full of hyperbole like everything he says, but theres truth in there.

The-Legend-24
07-06-2013, 07:38 PM
Shaq is that nikka. :applause:

MiseryCityTexas
07-06-2013, 07:40 PM
Even if the Lakers have cap space for next year with a high draft pick, they're only gonna be a decent play-off team because Kobe is old and now injury prone. Might as well sit next season out cause his team gonna be garbage. might as well resign smush parker again and let him play at the 2. at least that way they would be guaranteed the number 1 pick if they did that shit.

ShoeGuy
07-06-2013, 07:41 PM
yeah, Shaq always bad mouthing Howard, leave the guy alone.
They are not even the same type of player... heck Bynum(healthy) was closer to Shaq than Howard... Howard is more like Alonzo Morning...

The reason why Shaq hounds on Howard is because they are similar. Not in style of play, but the fact that both are so dominant. Shaq, was, by far, the most dominant big man of his era and he took advantage of it every night on the floor. Nobody even came close. Howard is the same. He has the perfect combination of strength, agility and athleticism, that is unmatched by any center in the NBA. As much as a I find him annoying to listen to on TNT, I have to agree with Shaq always criticizing Howard for his inability to take over games and dominate like he's supposed to.

Bandito
07-06-2013, 07:43 PM
"Little town"? Does he not realize Houston is the fattest city in the country? Im pretty sure even their tooth paste is deep friedOh how right you are. Everything in TX has fat on it, even the fat.:lol

TheFan
07-06-2013, 08:02 PM
The reason why Shaq hounds on Howard is because they are similar. Not in style of play, but the fact that both are so dominant. Shaq, was, by far, the most dominant big man of his era and he took advantage of it every night on the floor. Nobody even came close. Howard is the same. He has the perfect combination of strength, agility and athleticism, that is unmatched by any center in the NBA. As much as a I find him annoying to listen to on TNT, I have to agree with Shaq always criticizing Howard for his inability to take over games and dominate like he's supposed to.

Yup, but Howard cannot dominate the offense like Shaq used to.. Because Howard is not as tall as Shaq which makes a difference... Howard dominates by playing and all around game on both sides... It is like(hypothetically) Jordan calling out Chris Paul for not scoring 40 points per game and carrying his team. Im not saying the gap between Howard and Shaq is as big as the gap between Paul and Jordan, Im just saying that both have different ways of contributing to their respective teams.

EllEffEll
07-06-2013, 08:24 PM
Lakers weren't doing anything to improve the roster 3 years after the Finals. Kobe had to do something to get the GM's ass off his seat.

Damn straight. That appeared to be the catalyst that ignited a fire under Kupchak's culo to get D. Fish back in a Laker uniform, and then acquire Pau Gasol and get the L-train back on the tracks. Pissed me off at the time because of the manner in which it was done, but he was right. The Laker front office was on cruise control until Kobe got their attention with his arguably immature outburst.

SpecialQue
07-06-2013, 08:32 PM
Shaq saying retarded shit? Who'd have though it?

MJ(Mean John)
07-06-2013, 08:56 PM
This is a 100% why he signed in Houston. Dwight is scared of the pressure. If he loses in Houston then he can at least say hey I have fun playing with my friends. Must I remind you LA has cap space next season. So it doesn't matter what you think about the next 3-4 years because it's irrelevant. They'd get better players and possibly even better players than Harden. Harden wasn't a better player than a 34 year old Kobe last year and the Rockets were worse than the Lakers despite all their injuries. Dwight didn't see the big picture and he couldn't handle the criticism that comes with being in a big market. LA's management was able to trade for Chris Paul and Howard the last 2 seasons despite not supposedly having any assets that any team wanted. Dwight was just scared plain and simple and Shaq rightly called him out. He's someone who's been in the exact same situation so you can't say he doesn't know what he's talking about.


Damn what a post.
Good shit

Haymaker
07-06-2013, 09:11 PM
Have anybody considered that Dwight had a real bad experience playing with Kobe and he wasn't too excited about being in that situation again?

Kyon
07-06-2013, 09:39 PM
I notice that the vast majority of the people agreeing with Shaq's unfavorable assessment of Dwight's motivations are upset Lakers fans, trying to discredit the guy that rejected them. It's understandable, but Shaq's idea is only once piece of the truth, if it's correct at all.

Lakers fans should be able to understand that just because LA was attractive in the past, doesn't mean it's still seen that way now and going forward into the foreseeable future. Combine that with Kobe, the sub-par coaching, and Buss, and I feel that goes much further in explaining Dwight's decision than wanting to escape pressure or other explanantions that ignore the Lakers' role in forcing him out and place all of the blame of Dwight's perceived flaws.

Solid Snake
07-06-2013, 09:39 PM
Yup, but Howard cannot dominate the offense like Shaq used to.. Because Howard is not as tall as Shaq which makes a difference... Howard dominates by playing and all around game on both sides... It is like(hypothetically) Jordan calling out Chris Paul for not scoring 40 points per game and carrying his team. Im not saying the gap between Howard and Shaq is as big as the gap between Paul and Jordan, Im just saying that both have different ways of contributing to their respective teams.


Lmao Dwight's height has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with footwork and offensive skills. Do you realize what you just said is essentially blaming Howard's physical attributes as to why he's not good on offense. Physical attributes is the ONE THING he does have. It's EVERYTHING else he lacks.

KB824
07-06-2013, 09:44 PM
Have anybody considered that Dwight had a real bad experience playing with Kobe and he wasn't too excited about being in that situation again?

Problem was that Kobe is to serious for Dwight. All dwight really wanted was some team so he can joke around and go around with Harden and find more women to impregnat. Kobe's not all about that it's about the game and getting better and winning. Kobe was basically telling Dwight to grow up and be accountable. To be honest I think slim thug tweets really got Dwight thinking. I can see it know Dwight and Harden in all the strip clubs making it rain.

Dwight's not after the ring. He's about just having fun and playing and joking around. Look at Lebron he was doing all that pre game stuff with Cleveland taking pictures and fooling around. But once Lebron decided to take the game serious and forget about all that childish stuff. He started winning championships

Jacks3
07-06-2013, 09:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOh-XrFCcAEPlYa.jpg

Xsatyr
07-06-2013, 09:49 PM
It's the same media saying the Lakers are old, Jim Buss is incompetent and that Kobe and D'Antoni drove him off.....

What makes those factors any more relevant? Cause it might seem like a more convincing idea? LoL noone and I mean noone is inside Dwight's head.

It's all opinions in the end. No need to get salty with the media. Rumor mill journalism at its finest.

I'm referring to LA based media in general...

d.bball.guy
07-06-2013, 10:16 PM
What caused Dwight to leave was pretty much D'Antoni. They tried adjusting his system to fit Dwight but it never worked. Glad he left because it's best for both sides. I'm even surprised he gave the Lakers a chance of signing him back because of the money.

Scholar
07-06-2013, 10:16 PM
Tying your future to a 35-year-old coming off a ruptured Achilles is not a smart option.



No but tying your future to the GOAT sports franchise that has proven to be a perennial winner is a smart choice.

KB824
07-06-2013, 10:33 PM
No but tying your future to the GOAT sports franchise that has proven to be a perennial winner is a smart choice.
Exactly u really think the lakers ain't going to try and win at any cost lol. Lakers have always paid the extra money when they are winning or trying to build something for the future. Like I said earlier Dwight just left so he can chop it up with Harden in the Clubs and laugh and joke and play around. Lol Harden gives u a better chance to win then Kobe. The same Harden that disappeared in the finals. Ok Dwight

Solid Snake
07-06-2013, 10:54 PM
That little town once swept Shaq from a title in '95.


Don't you understand this isn't so much a indictment against Houston as it is against Dwight?

Mr Exlax
07-06-2013, 10:55 PM
How this bitch ass nicca gonna take a swipe at Houston like that? My nicca we swept your fuggin team in the Finals bro!

d.bball.guy
07-06-2013, 10:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOh-XrFCcAEPlYa.jpg
Whoever photoshopped that is a god :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

spiegel
07-06-2013, 11:31 PM
Shaq dosent know squat about Houston.

Dr. Cheesesteak
07-06-2013, 11:34 PM
Shaq needs to shut up.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

And not even just about Dwight or Houston. About everything pretty much.

oh the horror
07-06-2013, 11:36 PM
I don't see why people here get so fired up. Shaq is one of the most dominant centers ever. He had an opinion on the matter.



It is what it is.

DMV2
07-06-2013, 11:45 PM
Can somebody tell me why Shaq dislikes Dwight so much? They're not even in the same generation.

Is Dwight's fault that Orlando picked him over Okafor?
DC Comics owns rights to the Superman name, so why is he mad at that?
Dwight wanted out of Orlando, and the Lakers thought they'd can add another potential big to their line of HOF bigs that they've accustomed to seeing over the decades.

HannibalKid
07-06-2013, 11:50 PM
Shaq don't like Dwight cuz they are very similiar. Plus that ***** tried ripping shaqs nickname. The difference between the two is Shaq has balls. He's not afraid of a challenge. It's not like Shaq won his first year in LA. Took him 3 years and a Phil.

Dwight wants to try to pull a Lebron and get that instant gratifciation. Problem is, he ain't no LeBron.

PickernRoller
07-06-2013, 11:52 PM
Shaq don't like Dwight cuz they are very similiar. Plus that ***** tried ripping shaqs nickname. The difference between the two is Shaq has balls. He's not afraid of a challenge. It's not like Shaq won his first year in LA. Took him 3 years and a Phil.

Dwight wants to try to pull a Lebron and get that instant gratifciation. Problem is, he ain't no LeBron.

+ Harden ain't no Wade and Dwight got no smooth jumper. Lets not talk about that Heat supporting cast. They alone eat the rest of the Rockets while jacking at porn.

sc19
07-06-2013, 11:54 PM
I'd rather move to "little town" than stay in Mexico City. Dwight has seen how overrated that city is anyways. #moveon

HannibalKid
07-06-2013, 11:57 PM
+ Harden ain't no Wade and Dwight got no smooth jumper. Lets not talk about that Heat supporting cast. They alone eat the rest of the Rockets while jacking at porn.

This

That ***** ain't winning shit. Even if Bobo made it out of the West, LolBron and company shitting on these Betas.

oh the horror
07-06-2013, 11:59 PM
I'd rather move to "little town" than stay in Mexico City. Dwight has seen how overrated that city is anyways. #moveon



Hey, a-hole...Houston also has a ton of Mexicans. :oldlol:

bdreason
07-07-2013, 12:00 AM
Shaq would know. He won 3 titles for that franchise and the Lakers fans and management (and Kobe) still ran him out of town.


It was a lose - lose situation for Dwight in LA. Win and Kobe gets the credit, lose and Howard gets the blame. I mean, the guy was crucified last season, and he led the league in rebounding, while scoring 17ppg on 58%... coming off back surgery.

TheBigVeto
07-07-2013, 12:01 AM
Shaq is still behaving like a 13 year old girl. Nothing new here folks.

Heavincent
07-07-2013, 12:06 AM
Win and Kobe gets the credit

Because he's the best player on the team :confusedshrug:

longtime lurker
07-07-2013, 12:35 AM
LOL at all you little fakkits saying that Shaq doesn't know what he's talking about, yet if he said anything negative about Kobe you'd be kissing his ass like it's candy.

If anyone has the right idea it's Shaq because he went through it. It was 4 years before he won a championship as a Laker. He faced tons of criticism questioning whether he was about movies or championships, suffered through a worse coach than D'Antoni and lost despite playing with all star teammates.4 years! Dwight went through a lot less in 9 months and couldn't handle it. That's why he bitched out and ran to Houston. Shaq and Kobe dislike each other more than Dwight could ever understand, yet at the end of the day Shaq respects Kobe because he knows he's all about hanging up those championship banners in staples.

Magic 32
07-07-2013, 01:11 AM
:cry: OMG, poor Kobe, not having a championship caliber cast for 3 seasons out of his 17 year career. What an injustice.

but those 3 years were in his prime (at his peak actually).

How many all-time top 10 players were on a bad team during their peak?

Shaq? (2000-2002) ...nope
Lebron? (2011-13) ...nope
Jordan? (1991-1993) ...nope
Bird? (1984-87) ...nope
Magic? (1986-89) ...nope
Russell? (62-65) ...nope
Duncan? (03-05) ...nope

Only Kareem, Wilt, Hakeem and Kobe were able to carve out the legacy required for a top 10 spot, while wasting their best years with scrubs.

And Kobe has never gotten credit for the first part of his career. So how lucky is he really?

All Net
07-07-2013, 01:12 AM
LOL at all you little fakkits saying that Shaq doesn't know what he's talking about, yet if he said anything negative about Kobe you'd be kissing his ass like it's candy.

If anyone has the right idea it's Shaq because he went through it. It was 4 years before he won a championship as a Laker. He faced tons of criticism questioning whether he was about movies or championships, suffered through a worse coach than D'Antoni and lost despite playing with all star teammates.4 years! Dwight went through a lot less in 9 months and couldn't handle it. That's why he bitched out and ran to Houston. Shaq and Kobe dislike each other more than Dwight could ever understand, yet at the end of the day Shaq respects Kobe because he knows he's all about hanging up those championship banners in staples.

Doesn't matter what Shaq did he talks crap all the time that makes him look like a fool time and time again. Great player but is clueless about talking about the game.

longtime lurker
07-07-2013, 01:18 AM
Doesn't matter what Shaq did he talks crap all the time that makes him look like a fool time and time again. Great player but is clueless about talking about the game.

Shaq talks a lot of crap, but in this instance he's right.

All Net
07-07-2013, 01:22 AM
Shaq talks a lot of crap, but in this instance he's right.
what is he right about? he says Dwight is leaving due to the bright lights which is idiotic. He's leaving because this Laker team as much as it pains me to say is a joke with no chance at competing for a title...hell even making the playoffs seems a long shot. Why should he stay on a team that has a poor coach and nothing but slow and old players. At age 27 why should he stay on a team like that when he can go to a young team with a bright future? he made the right decision as much as I wanted him to stay

longtime lurker
07-07-2013, 01:30 AM
what is he right about? he says Dwight is leaving due to the bright lights which is idiotic. He's leaving because this Laker team as much as it pains me to say is a joke with no chance at competing for a title...hell even making the playoffs seems a long shot. Why should he stay on a team that has a poor coach and nothing but slow and old players. At age 27 why should he stay on a team like that when he can go to a young team with a bright future? he made the right decision as much as I wanted him to stay

I have a hard time believing you're a Laker fan you do nothing but rip on the team. Next season the Lakers will have cap space and the D'Antoni will be gone. Long term the Lakers are setup to be looking very good moving forward. Dwight's problem is that he can't see the forest through the trees. Houston still plays in the West and there are still 3 teams that are definitely better than them, maybe even 4. Shaq's right because he waited 4 seasons before he could win a championship, faced scrutiny and had a shitty coach. Dwight couldn't handle it for one. Dwight talks a good game when he came to the Lakers how he's going to follow in the foot steps of legends like Kareem and Wilt, then he proceeds to bitch and piss off everyone in the process. It's fine he went to Houston, that's his decision, but lets not bullshit about his reasons, he didn't even want to go to Houston this time last year.

All Net
07-07-2013, 01:50 AM
I have a hard time believing you're a Laker fan you do nothing but rip on the team. Next season the Lakers will have cap space and the D'Antoni will be gone. Long term the Lakers are setup to be looking very good moving forward. Dwight's problem is that he can't see the forest through the trees. Houston still plays in the West and there are still 3 teams that are definitely better than them, maybe even 4. Shaq's right because he waited 4 seasons before he could win a championship, faced scrutiny and had a shitty coach. Dwight couldn't handle it for one. Dwight talks a good game when he came to the Lakers how he's going to follow in the foot steps of legends like Kareem and Wilt, then he proceeds to bitch and piss off everyone in the process. It's fine he went to Houston, that's his decision, but lets not bullshit about his reasons, he didn't even want to go to Houston this time last year.

So you want me to be a homer and say everything is good? we stink RIGHT NOW...that is just being honest. I've had season tickets for the past 3-4 years...so don't question wether I'm a real fan or not. 2014 is a different ball game but why should Dwight gamble on what might happen next year? he has the chance to compete for a top seed NOW...Where Dwight went wrong was before he came to L.A with all the crap he talked in Orlando and leading up to the trade thats where he deserves to be killed for not his decision this summer.

KB824
07-07-2013, 02:01 AM
Yeah Dwight just was looking for that instant love that lebron when he won his first championship. Problem is your at best the 4th - 5th best team in the west. Yeah we all know Dantoni sucks but the guy never got a fair shake. No training camp, injury after injury things came together at the end but kobe got hurt. Dwight was talking about Dantoni's uptempo and pick and roll offense but if I'm not mistaken isn't that the type of offense that Houston played. So I want to see how Houston is going to change there whole offense to make one player happy while shutting out the other players where that offense made they thrive. And don't give me all this he's going to work out with The Dream and McChale dude is 27 years old he aint learning nothing new if he Hadn't learned it early. His whole offensive game is based on athleticism. Once that's gone it's over for him

ScalabrineStan
07-07-2013, 02:05 AM
I can see where Shaq is coming from about 50%.

The issue I have with the statement is "little town".

Has he been to Houston? Its like the 4th biggest city in the US. Their economy is rapidly growing due to the US oil. It all goes through H-Town.

And then you add the Asian Factor. Asians love the rockets. Every Chinese person I know loves them. What happened was they all became NBA fans when Yao came around. When he left, the fans remained and most of them stuck with Houston. The residual Yao effect makes the Rockets arguably the world's favorite team in terms of Fan population.

If anything, Howard went to a bigger market.

Houston was better than LA in every conceivable way.

longtime lurker
07-07-2013, 02:30 AM
More from Shaq on Dwight to LA.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2013/07/07/20130706-gt-shaq-on-howard.nba/index.html

The Choken One
07-07-2013, 02:54 AM
He's right. I see no problem with his comments.:confusedshrug:

Nick Young
07-07-2013, 02:58 AM
I can see where Shaq is coming from about 50%.

The issue I have with the statement is "little town".

Has he been to Houston? Its like the 4th biggest city in the US. Their economy is rapidly growing due to the US oil. It all goes through H-Town.

And then you add the Asian Factor. Asians love the rockets. Every Chinese person I know loves them. What happened was they all became NBA fans when Yao came around. When he left, the fans remained and most of them stuck with Houston. The residual Yao effect makes the Rockets arguably the world's favorite team in terms of Fan population.

If anything, Howard went to a bigger market.

Houston was better than LA in every conceivable way.
media pressure in houston is nowhere near the size of what it is in LA. That's what shaq meant by calling Houston a little town.

tomtucker
07-07-2013, 03:02 AM
I can see where Shaq is coming from about 50%.

The issue I have with the statement is "little town".

Has he been to Houston? Its like the 4th biggest city in the US. Their economy is rapidly growing due to the US oil. It all goes through H-Town.

And then you add the Asian Factor. Asians love the rockets. Every Chinese person I know loves them. What happened was they all became NBA fans when Yao came around. When he left, the fans remained and most of them stuck with Houston. The residual Yao effect makes the Rockets arguably the world's favorite team in terms of Fan population.

If anything, Howard went to a bigger market.

Houston was better than LA in every conceivable way.

oh, now i get it.......dwight has babymamas in allmost all colors, except yellow............ he still needs some asian mammas i guess............he

Im so nba'd out
07-07-2013, 03:10 AM
little town?if shaq ever come to houston i got something for him cuh he dont know me im a crip ill kill em

oh the horror
07-07-2013, 05:57 AM
If anything, Howard went to a bigger market.

Houston was better than LA in every conceivable way.


Just stop.

INDI
07-07-2013, 07:20 AM
Uh, no, this has nothing to do with why Howard signed with Houston. Dwight would be a complete moron if he resigned with the Lakers, their core players are all in their mid 30s or later, and they're not getting any better in the near future. Houston is a young, up and coming team with better shooters, better management (lol @ Jim Buss), and a better superstar. Harden's only 23 and is already better than Kobe was last season, and that's before his Achilles injury. It was a no-brainer for Dwight to leave LA, that team isn't doing anything for the next 3-4 years.

Lol than y did kobe finish first team??? You do know fans are not allowed to vote right???

KobeRules24
07-07-2013, 07:33 AM
Lol than y did kobe finish first team??? You do know fans are not allowed to vote right???

Che Guevara's views and beliefs got him killed, luckily for the user with his name no one will kill him for thinking Harden is better than Kobe.