View Full Version : When it's all said and done, all people will remember about Kobe is...
theoneneo
07-08-2013, 12:33 AM
5 Championships
30,000 + points
Third Greatest scorer in NBA history
2 Gold medals
Doesn't that make you mad knowing that no matter how much you hate him, how much you use stats like Per and WS etc, that he's still one of the greatest of all time? How many top 10 of all time players have that on their resume? Two... MJ and Kareem. Yet somehow Kobe is just barely a top 10 player of all time :rolleyes: .... K
KyleKong
07-08-2013, 12:35 AM
http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/shaq-vs-kobe-6.jpg
AintNoSunshine
07-08-2013, 12:40 AM
So what? He was only briefly in the top 10 for 1 or 2 years before Lebron pushed him out again
Fudge
07-08-2013, 12:43 AM
So what? He was only briefly in the top 10 for 1 or 2 years before Lebron pushed him out again
What? I'm no Kobe fan, but dude's still ahead of Bron in the top 10. Sit down bud. :oldlol:
nathanjizzle
07-08-2013, 12:46 AM
kobe > lebron
ripthekik
07-08-2013, 12:49 AM
What? I'm no Kobe fan, but dude's still ahead of Bron in the top 10. Sit down bud. :oldlol:
:oldlol:
only in these delusional lebron tards teenager's lil minds do lebron rank in front of kobe :oldlol:
Dr. Cheesesteak
07-08-2013, 12:50 AM
http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/shaq-vs-kobe-6.jpg
yeah. I'm gonna make sure all the kids I coach know Kobe as a rapist. :rockon:
Electric Slide
07-08-2013, 12:51 AM
1024 Bryant: I didn
I won't lie, most places I go, when someone brings up Kobe, the first thing that comes into discussion is his 6-24 game.:roll:
KyleKong
07-08-2013, 12:56 AM
:oldlol:
only in these delusional lebron tards teenager's lil minds do lebron rank in front of kobe :oldlol:
You still post? Sad day.
Inferno
07-08-2013, 12:57 AM
I won't lie, most places I go, when someone brings up Kobe, the first thing that comes into discussion is his 6-24 game.:roll:
Oh, where you live in Miami right? :lol
Doranku
07-08-2013, 12:58 AM
I won't lie, most places I go, when someone brings up Kobe, the first thing that comes into discussion is his 6-24 game.:roll:
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
Dionysus
07-08-2013, 01:00 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
:roll: :roll:
longtime lurker
07-08-2013, 01:01 AM
I won't lie, most places I go, when someone brings up Kobe, the first thing that comes into discussion is his 6-24 game.:roll:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222360&page=6
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The-Legend-24
07-08-2013, 01:01 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
:oldlol: :oldlol:
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
Prove it.:pimp:
Heavincent
07-08-2013, 01:02 AM
I won't lie, most places I go, when someone brings up Kobe, the first thing that comes into discussion is his 6-24 game.:roll:
I've never heard that brought up in a real life discussion about Kobe/NBA in general. Never heard the "Kobe got carried" argument in real life either. That seems to be strictly an ISH/online thing.
It's weird, because all of the LBJ fans I know in real life actually like Kobe. Then you come on ISH and most of the Lebron fans here hate him.
KyleKong
07-08-2013, 01:02 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222360&page=6
http://replygif.net/i/1049.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Your user handle suits you perfectly.
Inferno
07-08-2013, 01:05 AM
Prove it.:pimp:
Ignoring my post :oldlol:
How's the weather in Miami? I'll give you time to Google it :oldlol:
The-Legend-24
07-08-2013, 01:05 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222360&page=6
Yea, that fakkit and 2010 Splash have been exposed multiple times already. :oldlol: :oldlol:
IllegalD
07-08-2013, 01:07 AM
So what? He was only briefly in the top 10 for 1 or 2 years before Lebron pushed him out again
:no:
False.
Kobe is currently top 5-7 when you take into account: championships, accolades (Finals MVPs, MVPs, All NBA Team selections, All-Star selections, etc), statistical accomplishments, memorable performances/plays, skill-level, longevity, fame, etc.
:bowdown:
Not to mention that Kobe is the greatest LAKER of all time. A franchise that has like 7 players in the top 15 players of all time. (Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, West, Baylor)
:applause:
Only players in the Top 10 who's overall NBA resume is currently, inarguably better than Kobe's are Jordan and Kareem. (Who I have as 1A and 1B respectively in my Top 10 list)
Kobe will most likely end up somewhere in the top 3-5 when all is said and done.
And this isn't some media-induced fabrication. The greatest players of all time have said as much. Barkley has Kobe in the 5-6 spot. Dr. J said Kobe is Top 5 all time. Most of the Laker greats (including Magic, Kareem, West, etc.) have said Kobe is the greatest Laker ever. Jordan has said that Kobe is the only one that has warranted the comparisons to him. Bird picked Kobe as the guy he would have on his team from the current crop of players, and the only one that could start on the original dream team. And so on and so on. I'd rather take these ex-player/all-time greats opinion on the matter than some random dude typing biased hate on a keyboard on a bball msg board.
Straight_Ballin
07-08-2013, 01:08 AM
Anyone can get as good as Kobe if you base your life on being a copy cat. Any other player watch every key game Jordan ever played in and then spend countless hours trying to mimic his play style? Every single advantage from medical to technological playing in a new era and he still couldn't out do Jordan. Now that is just plain sad to watch someone try that damn hard and still come up short.
At least he didn't give a ring to Shawn Marion tho....
Jameerthefear
07-08-2013, 01:09 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
DAMN :roll: :roll:
Jameerthefear
07-08-2013, 01:11 AM
I've never heard that brought up in a real life discussion about Kobe/NBA in general. Never heard the "Kobe got carried" argument in real life either. That seems to be strictly an ISH/online thing.
It's weird, because all of the LBJ fans I know in real life actually like Kobe. Then you come on ISH and most of the Lebron fans here hate him.
It is. To me Kobe is the best player I've ever seen play basketball (i was born in 1998, bite me). The kind of shots he made, owning my team in the playoffs. I used to be a big Kobe hater, but it seems like I can finally recognize his skill and greatness.
IllegalD
07-08-2013, 01:12 AM
Anyone can get as good as Kobe if you base your life on being a copy cat. Any other player watch every key game Jordan ever played in and then spend countless hours trying to mimic his play style? Every single advantage from medical to technological playing in a new era and he still couldn't out do Jordan. Now that is just plain sad to watch someone try that damn hard and still come up short.
At least he didn't give a ring to Shawn Marion tho....
Jordan was naturally athletically superior to Kobe and had freakishly bigger hands. No amount of modern medicine and technology can make up for god-given. Even guys like Carter, McGrady, Wade, etc are superior athletically to Kobe. But Kobe worked harder to push what he had to the limits.
Straight_Ballin
07-08-2013, 01:19 AM
Jordan was naturally athletically superior to Kobe and had freakishly bigger hands. No amount of modern medicine and technology can make up for god-given. Even guys like Carter, McGrady, Wade, etc are superior athletically to Kobe. But Kobe worked harder to push what he had to the limits.
And he worked harder at being a copy cat as well. Carter, Tmac, Wade etc had their own style.
Ignoring my post :oldlol:
How's the weather in Miami? I'll give you time to Google it :oldlol:
Real nice, why do you ask?
Yea, that fakkit and 2010 Splash have been exposed multiple times already. :oldlol: :oldlol:
For the one millionth time, that wasn't me. But keep posting it if it makes you guys happy. :pimp:
Jameerthefear
07-08-2013, 01:20 AM
tazb looking shook :lol :lol
oh the horror
07-08-2013, 01:22 AM
yeah. I'm gonna make sure all the kids I coach know Kobe as a rapist. :rockon:
So basically you'll spread rumors based
Off no conviction to kids where all you should be discussing as a coach is ball?
Sounds ridiculous dude.
oh the horror
07-08-2013, 01:23 AM
Prove it.:pimp:
Your lack of any social endearing personality would indicate so.
jimmy77x
07-08-2013, 01:23 AM
Tazb gettin dat ass rocked once again :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
tazb looking shook :lol :lol
Care to explain how?:confusedshrug:
I<3NBA
07-08-2013, 01:27 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
damn! :lol
you got burned man.
Straight_Ballin
07-08-2013, 01:32 AM
Prove it.:pimp:
Post a pic of your chair with a piece of paper that says ISH on it. I bet it's worn as shit.
longtime lurker
07-08-2013, 01:34 AM
Post a pic of your chair with a piece of paper that says ISH on it. I bet it's worn as shit.
I'll save him the time
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Jameerthefear
07-08-2013, 01:44 AM
I'll save him the time
http://pinchmysalt.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/computer-nerd-jpg.gif
:roll: :roll:
daily
07-08-2013, 02:10 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
oh sh*t :lol
PickernRoller
07-08-2013, 02:18 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
:lol :lol :roll: :roll:
Tazb done.
Fudge
07-08-2013, 03:46 AM
:roll: :roll:
Bump
Tazb got rocked tho.
coin24
07-08-2013, 03:58 AM
I won't lie, most places I go, when someone brings up Kobe, the first thing that comes into discussion is his 6-24 game.:roll:
At the pizzeria across from the TD GARDEN??
Pretty sure you were a die hard celtics fan until Lebron signed in miami:lol :facepalm
SpurrDurr
07-08-2013, 04:01 AM
:lol @ him claiming that another dude was using his account back in 2011
bdreason
07-08-2013, 04:05 AM
You mean all "casual" fans will remember. Students of the sport will remember everything about Kobe, the good and the bad.
KyleKong
07-08-2013, 04:06 AM
DAMN :roll: :roll:
JAMEER IS UNBANNED!
sportjames23
07-08-2013, 05:00 AM
http://lakerholicz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/shaq-vs-kobe-6.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
sportjames23
07-08-2013, 05:02 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Lakers2877
07-08-2013, 05:06 AM
So what? He was only briefly in the top 10 for 1 or 2 years before Lebron pushed him out again
Do you have a link to this top 10 list? I'd like to see it. Thanks
Lakers2877
07-08-2013, 05:11 AM
Anyone can get as good as Kobe if you base your life on being a copy cat. Any other player watch every key game Jordan ever played in and then spend countless hours trying to mimic his play style? Every single advantage from medical to technological playing in a new era and he still couldn't out do Jordan. Now that is just plain sad to watch someone try that damn hard and still come up short.
At least he didn't give a ring to Shawn Marion tho....
" Anybody can be as good as Kobe if you base your life on being a copy cat "
That comment might actually be the dumbest thing I've ever read. I mean wow.
PickernRoller
07-08-2013, 05:14 AM
:lol @ him claiming that another dude was using his account back in 2011
:lol :lol :lol :facepalm
jstern
07-08-2013, 05:26 AM
How past players are remembered is always an interesting topic two me. Things get complicated by the player not being in the light while others are shinning, and also by new kids who never saw the player play having a stronger voice.
Jason Kidd was an amazing point guard, yet the new kids when comparing him to other point guards latch on to his FG % and don't let go from it. The person gets a tunnel vision where every great thing about the player gets completely ignored, except for the flaw they can latch on to. And with that tunnel vision and just wanting to win an argument, they will never come close to knowing players they never saw, but will definitely have an opinion that they consider to be the right answer.
I was thinking about this yesterday about Anderson Silva. That no matter how great you are, how close to perfect you are, a person who doesn't like you is going to find one thing and run away with it.
Mr. Jabbar
07-08-2013, 05:33 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
tazb sent to ish early retirement :lol
Genaro
07-08-2013, 05:39 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
:lol :lol :lol
Such a shame there isn't a like button.
sportjames23
07-08-2013, 05:57 AM
tazb sent to ish early retirement :lol
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Doctor Rivers
07-08-2013, 06:33 AM
tazb sent to ish early retirement :lol
haha
SilkkTheShocker
07-08-2013, 06:42 AM
Are there still people that people believe Kobe will retire higher on the all time list than Lebron? :oldlol:
Lakers2877
07-08-2013, 07:57 AM
Are there still people that people believe Kobe will retire higher on the all time list than Lebron? :oldlol:
Yeah there are Kobe homers who think that.
I personally believe Lebron will end up 2nd or 3rd. I think Kobe will end up in the 9-12 range
I don't get why people can't appreciate both players though. I don't get why so many people pick sides. It's silly. And by doing so people miss out on appreciated 2 of the best of all time.
:no:
False.
Kobe is currently top 5-7 when you take into account: championships, accolades (Finals MVPs, MVPs, All NBA Team selections, All-Star selections, etc), statistical accomplishments, memorable performances/plays, skill-level, longevity, fame, etc.
:bowdown:
Not to mention that Kobe is the greatest LAKER of all time. A franchise that has like 7 players in the top 15 players of all time. (Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, West, Baylor)
:applause:
Only players in the Top 10 who's overall NBA resume is currently, inarguably better than Kobe's are Jordan and Kareem. (Who I have as 1A and 1B respectively in my Top 10 list)
Kobe will most likely end up somewhere in the top 3-5 when all is said and done.
And this isn't some media-induced fabrication. The greatest players of all time have said as much. Barkley has Kobe in the 5-6 spot. Dr. J said Kobe is Top 5 all time. Most of the Laker greats (including Magic, Kareem, West, etc.) have said Kobe is the greatest Laker ever. Jordan has said that Kobe is the only one that has warranted the comparisons to him. Bird picked Kobe as the guy he would have on his team from the current crop of players, and the only one that could start on the original dream team. And so on and so on. I'd rather take these ex-player/all-time greats opinion on the matter than some random dude typing biased hate on a keyboard on a bball msg board.
I literally cant add a thing to this. You are correct, and this will be exactly how people will view him several years from now.
SilkkTheShocker
07-08-2013, 08:09 AM
Yeah there are Kobe homers who think that.
I personally believe Lebron will end up 2nd or 3rd. I think Kobe will end up in the 9-12 range
I don't get why people can't appreciate both players though. I don't get why so many people pick sides. It's silly. And by doing so people miss out on appreciated 2 of the best of all time.
I have Kobe in the top 10 also. I just find it funny when some posters can't get around the fact LeBron is going to pass him when all is said and done.
You mean all "casual" fans will remember. Students of the sport will remember everything about Kobe, the good and the bad.
No they wont. What bad do you remember about drexler? D robinson? Payton? Pippen? Wilt??? (Before the google searches???). They all had negative things that people didnt like, bad shots, horrible games etc... the longer retired the less bad u remember.
in 15 years, there will never be a conversation had about 6/24. Mattrr of fact they may only remember that he had 23 and 16 not the bad percentage
I have Kobe in the top 10 also. I just find it funny when some posters can't get around the fact LeBron is going to pass him when all is said and done.
I am a kobe fan and have no problem with lebron passing him. At the end of the day, they will both be too 5 players. The only players that have a lock on their spots is Jordan and kareem. Magic, wilt, and russell, have a case but kobe and lebron will be superior when its said and done
Jameerthefear
07-08-2013, 10:41 AM
JAMEER IS UNBANNED!
:pimp:
Scholar
07-08-2013, 10:45 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
:oldlol: Ether.
xoracle55
07-08-2013, 11:03 AM
Originally Posted by SilkkTheShocker
Are there still people that people believe Kobe will retire higher on the all time list than Lebron?
Yeah there are Kobe homers who think that.I personally believe Lebron will end up 2nd or 3rd. I think Kobe will end up in the 9-12 rangeI don't get why people can't appreciate both players though. I don't get why so many people pick sides. It's silly. And by doing so people miss out on appreciated 2 of the best of all time.
This!
It's good to hear from a sensible Laker fan like yourself for a change. :applause:
Kobetardism is really getting old. :(
riseagainst
07-08-2013, 11:36 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
:roll:
omg
dat ether
riseagainst
07-08-2013, 11:37 AM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222360&page=6
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C'mon maaaaaaaaayne. Bulls have the same D that was setup in Boston but are YOUNGER, HEALTHY, STRONGER, ... Heat have no chance how much can Lebrick and Migrainewade really going to bring?
Ain't no one stopping Rose on Mia... Bibby Chalmers? :roll:
:roll: :roll:
andgar923
07-08-2013, 11:43 AM
When its all said and done, Kobe will be remembered as Jordan lite.
And that is NOT a diss.
If you think abou the hundreds of players, he may be the closest to MJ in some ways.
Bron IS indeed a unique player of sorts, he shouldn't be compared to any other player in history. Not Magic, not Bird, not MJ, not Malone, not anybody. Bron is as unique as Barkley was.
Bandito
07-08-2013, 11:43 AM
That's because the only place you "go" is to your computer chair to post on ISH.
http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/1102/suicide-watch-sucicide-popcorn-demotivational-posters-1298427526.jpg
chosen_wun
07-08-2013, 11:55 AM
Originally Posted by tazb
C'mon maaaaaaaaayne. Bulls have the same D that was setup in Boston but are YOUNGER, HEALTHY, STRONGER, ... Heat have no chance how much can Lebrick and Migrainewade really going to bring?
Ain't no one stopping Rose on Mia... Bibby Chalmers?:biggums: xspozed.
Lakers2877
07-08-2013, 11:56 AM
I am a kobe fan and have no problem with lebron passing him. At the end of the day, they will both be too 5 players. The only players that have a lock on their spots is Jordan and kareem. Magic, wilt, and russell, have a case but kobe and lebron will be superior when its said and done
I have no problem with it either. It doesn't make Kobe less of a player. It doesn't take away how lucky Laker fans have been to be able to watch him for so long. Besides these top 10 lists are just opinions anyways. People seem to act like they are real and important or something. It's just message board fodder
andgar923
07-08-2013, 12:19 PM
Kobe top 5? :roll:
longtime lurker
07-08-2013, 01:10 PM
Kobe top 5? :roll:
I'm a Lakers fan and it makes even my heard hurt when I read people posting Kobe in top 5. I don't think people realize just how insanely accomplished the top 5 players were and how much they won. Kobe has zero chance at top 5 and Lebron shouldn't even be in the conversation as of now.
Fudge
07-08-2013, 01:11 PM
Tazb nowhere to be found tho. :oldlol:
grantz
07-08-2013, 01:41 PM
Lebron has a solid championship to go before I would put him over Kobe but Lebron surpassing Kobe is nothing to be upset about. That's some pretty elite company up there. Lebron is a once-a-generation physically gifted player.
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