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Dionysus
07-08-2013, 12:57 PM
1. LeBron James
2. Blake Griffin
3. Vince Carter
4. Jason Richardson
5. Shawn Kemp



Honarable mention: Dominique Wilkins, Desmond Mason, Jerald Green, Kobe Bryant.

We can all agree with this.

It's A VC3!!!
07-08-2013, 12:59 PM
LeBron is not even top 10, not even top 15. What does he do to even deserve a mention? He never does any 360, windmills, reverse dunks or posters. Just delete this thread. OP was born 11 years ago and has no idea how to talk basketball.

TheReal Kendall
07-08-2013, 01:00 PM
1. LeBron James
2. Blake Griffin
3. Vince Carter
4. Jason Richardson
5. Shawn Kemp



Honarable mention: Dominique Wilkins, Desmond Mason, Jerald Green, Kobe Bryant.

We can all agree with this.

:biggums:

Are you serious? Is this in order?

I don't agree

lakerspng
07-08-2013, 01:03 PM
Dr J
Jordan
VC
Kobe
'Nique

Not in order

kamil
07-08-2013, 01:06 PM
1. LeBron James
2. Blake Griffin
3. Vince Carter
4. Jason Richardson
5. Shawn Kemp



Honarable mention: Dominique Wilkins, Desmond Mason, Jerald Green, Kobe Bryant.

We can all agree with this.

Oh fantastic, another LeBron* dickrider... :rolleyes:

Dionysus
07-08-2013, 01:06 PM
Did this idiot say LeBron doesn't have any posters?:facepalm

Ask Delonte West, Damon Jones, Jason Terry and Tim Duncan if he does.

TheReal Kendall
07-08-2013, 01:09 PM
Dr J
Jordan
VC
Kobe
'Nique

Not in order

You think Kobe is a top 5 dunker?


VC
MJ
Nique
J.Rich
Blake Griffin/Dr.J

riseagainst
07-08-2013, 01:11 PM
first Lebron is the best pure shooter after Larry Bird, now Lebron is the greatest dunker. Come on OP, do better trolling. :oldlol:

TheReal Kendall
07-08-2013, 01:11 PM
Did this idiot say LeBron doesn't have any posters?:facepalm

Ask Delonte West, Damon Jones, Jason Terry and Tim Duncan if he does.

:facepalm


Those are all guards except for Duncan.

He suppose to dunk on smaller guys.

32jazz
07-08-2013, 01:11 PM
Dr J

Nique
Carter
Shawn Kemp

and the rest.

Rose'sACL
07-08-2013, 01:11 PM
I don't know if i will put LeBron there but LeBron does catch some really bad lobs and turns them into dunks.

TMT
07-08-2013, 01:12 PM
Lebron doesn't deserve to be within 100 miles of this discussion.

It's A VC3!!!
07-08-2013, 01:14 PM
Did this idiot say LeBron doesn't have any posters?:facepalm

Ask Delonte West, Damon Jones, Jason Terry and Tim Duncan if he does.
everyone in the thread is calling you an idiot. get the hint

Fudge
07-08-2013, 01:28 PM
:roll:

VC will always be the best dunker of all time to me, some may have MJ. It's definitely one of those two. Deal wid it.

hateraid
07-08-2013, 01:29 PM
VC
Dr.J
Nique
Kemp
All a blend of balance, power, timing, and showmanship. Blake is on the cusp, but I think needs to do more to solidify a top 5 all-time list

I don't think anyone should bash suggesting Kobe, Lebron, or Jordan on these lists. They are previous dunk champions (Admit it, Lebron would have won if he entered). Their reputations launches them in this category because they've ganrered more opportunity to showcase this talent. Maybe if Darvin Ham had 50-60 touches a game he'd be the greatest dunker?

DStebb716
07-08-2013, 01:33 PM
Somebody started watching the NBA yesterday.

pegasus
07-08-2013, 01:35 PM
Answer: Lebron!:bowdown:























Question: Who has no business being on this list?:no:

SilkkTheShocker
07-08-2013, 01:36 PM
Definitely LeBron

QuebecBaller
07-08-2013, 01:38 PM
1. LeBron James --> WRONG
2. Blake Griffin --> WRONG
3. Vince Carter
4. Jason Richardson
5. Shawn Kemp
.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

avonbarksdale
07-08-2013, 01:41 PM
my man vince

SilkkTheShocker
07-08-2013, 01:41 PM
LeBron is not even top 10, not even top 15. What does he do to even deserve a mention? He never does any 360, windmills, reverse dunks or posters. Just delete this thread. OP was born 11 years ago and has no idea how to talk basketball.


Hilarious coming from you. :oldlol:

SilkkTheShocker
07-08-2013, 01:42 PM
:facepalm at people saying Carter>>>>LeBron

kamil
07-08-2013, 01:43 PM
VC
Dr.J
Nique
Kemp
All a blend of balance, power, timing, and showmanship. Blake is on the cusp, but I think needs to do more to solidify a top 5 all-time list

I don't think anyone should bash suggesting Kobe, Lebron, or Jordan on these lists. They are previous dunk champions (Admit it, Lebron would have won if he entered). Their reputations launches them in this category because they've ganrered more opportunity to showcase this talent. Maybe if Darvin Ham had 50-60 touches a game he'd be the greatest dunker?

Uh, no it doesnt. Their dunks from games does. Watch some old school MJ clips with his best dunks and he's easily one of the best. Kobe as well, especially since he won the dunk contest. LeBron* hasn't done much to be put in the same league with dunks. He's all power and no finesse.

memetherapy
07-08-2013, 01:44 PM
If we're considering in-game dunks...

...Vince...

....MJ, Nique, Kemp, Griffin...
....J-Rich, Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Francis, Mcgrady...

Anyone missing worth mentioning?

memetherapy
07-08-2013, 01:45 PM
:facepalm at people saying Carter>>>>LeBron

I understand that dunking awesomeness is subjective, but are you effin retarded brah?

TheReal Kendall
07-08-2013, 01:46 PM
I understand that dunking awesomeness is subjective, but are you effin retarded brah?


Been wondering this since I joined ISH

SilkkTheShocker
07-08-2013, 01:48 PM
I understand that dunking awesomeness is subjective, but are you effin retarded brah?

LeBron's one handed slam is arguably the most aesthetically the NBA has seen. The way he cuts through the air like a knife.....you can almost feel the rim shaking in your own living rim when he dunks it

grantz
07-08-2013, 01:48 PM
VC

DR. J
Kemp
'Nique






Blake

kamil
07-08-2013, 01:49 PM
Not that this guy deserves to be in the top 5 all time, but this dunk alone stands out as one of the most impressive EVER in a game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOzo4pHTZ-M

Jailblazers7
07-08-2013, 02:09 PM
Pippen doesn't get enough credit as a dunker. He wasn't a creative dunker but his collection of posters probably beats everyone.

pauk
07-08-2013, 02:15 PM
Lebron may not be the best dunk contest dunker, we havent seen him there afterall to determine his full creativity... but INGAME....? Very dangerous to say the least... :)

He is definitely at the top in my list (Jordan, Dominique, Lebron, Kemp, Carter).

wakencdukest
07-08-2013, 02:19 PM
IMO, the best dunkers are the guys who will go up in heavy traffic and posterize anybody, big or small, with an angry dunk, that ain't LeBron.

Carter
Nique
Kemp
Jordan
Blake
Dr. J

kshutts1
07-08-2013, 02:19 PM
It would be fun to have some sort of vote on this, with video "evidence" to back it up.

But...

Carter, Kemp, Griffin, Desmond Mason, Gerald Green, Jordan, Wilkins, Dr. J, Darvin Ham, Jordan

All deserve mention. I may have forgotten some pretty obvious ones, too. I'm not sold on Kobe, TMac, Francis, Wade, though Kobe was pretty good.

Twiens
07-08-2013, 02:20 PM
Anyone that doesn't have Vince #1 is wrong, it's not even that close. He did things that noone else could.

pauk
07-08-2013, 02:24 PM
IMO, the best dunkers are the guys who will go up in heavy traffic and posterize anybody, big or small, with an angry dunk, that ain't LeBron.

Carter
Nique
Kemp
Jordan
Blake
Dr. J

I am really not sure if you are serious?


EDIT: Ah, Laker fan (Kobe fan?)... i see... you guys need to stop hating eventually...

Fudge
07-08-2013, 02:26 PM
If Carter isn't #1 on your list, please die slow mfk***

Twiens
07-08-2013, 02:36 PM
Top 100 VC dunks...enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHG1g8IFbQk

kshutts1
07-08-2013, 02:38 PM
Serious question, because unfortunately I don't get to watch as much NBA as I'd like.

But how many dunk-types does Lebron have? He has the soaring one-handed alley. And the fast break look-how-high-I-can-jump dunk. And then some iterations of the same dunks with little people in his way. Am I missing any? Oh, I think he did a reverse dunk once, too.

My point is just that... while his dunks look nice, because he's so fast and powerful, there aren't many different types of dunks. He does the same couple things, over and over. That does not qualify him for a top dunker list, IMO.

pegasus
07-08-2013, 02:42 PM
Serious question, because unfortunately I don't get to watch as much NBA as I'd like.

But how many dunk-types does Lebron have? He has the soaring one-handed alley. And the fast break look-how-high-I-can-jump dunk. And then some iterations of the same dunks with little people in his way. Am I missing any? Oh, I think he did a reverse dunk once, too.

My point is just that... while his dunks look nice, because he's so fast and powerful, there aren't many different types of dunks. He does the same couple things, over and over. That does not qualify him for a top dunker list, IMO.
Yep. No creativity. And instead of dunking over bigs, he's more like "let me try to lay it in and miss".

It's A VC3!!!
07-08-2013, 02:42 PM
There are three lebron fans in this thread and all three have lebron on the list. All you three drink bleach because your stupid. All of the unbiased people had LeBron no where near the top 5. Those are the opinions that matter. Pauk and silkthe two worst posters in tis thread.

RoundMoundOfReb
07-08-2013, 02:43 PM
Lebron doesn't belong on that list and #1 is VC hands down.

WayOfWade
07-08-2013, 02:43 PM
I'd say an undisputable three are:
MJ
VC
Dr. J
Without these guys, your list is jacked up.

kshutts1
07-08-2013, 02:46 PM
I'd say an undisputable three are:
MJ
VC
Dr. J
Without these guys, your list is jacked up.

I've never watched Dr. J play; I'm too young. So I have him on my list from reputation only. But does he have his reputation from being the first player to really do flashy dunks? Or because his dunks were actually that good? The only video clips I've seen of him he's ridiculously smooth but, similar to Lebron, he seems to have a limited variety. Again, I never watched him, so just wondering.

Thorpesaurous
07-08-2013, 03:45 PM
I've seen a ton of basketball in my life. I have no issue with Lebron making someone's top ten or so. But there are a handfull of guys who are just definitively better, first and foremost being VC.

I was a little older during his breakout first couple years, like in college (in fact I played against him I like to say, even though I never saw the court), so I was old enough to know it wasn't just youthfull fancy. The guy was like a shooting star. He was doing things every night in game that were just absurd. The reverse along the baseline in Indiana I still can't figure out. He was hands down the best I've ever seen.

I'm not the world's biggest Jordan fan. But it's crazy how of all the legend that has carried on about him, his in game dunking has almost not lived on the way it should. Jordan was rediculous in game. I just watched some top 100 Jordan moments on youtube, and once you get past the moments everyone remembers, you'll see things that are just rediculous happening on a random Wednesday night, for some reason often in Atlanta. Remember, it wasn't that long ago, but we weren't getting round the clock access to highlights on ESPN or TNT, or at the touch of a button online to see this stuff. You either caught it or you didn't. And obviously the lack of footage affects Dr. J even more, but it wasn't that long ago that you could just not have seen a play.

And all that said, I remember actively liking Nique better as a dunker in game. Although looking back that's probably just wrong.

Shawn Kemp is the next that comes to mind.

I'm a little young to have seen a ton of Dr. J, but enough to know that his stuff was rediculous.

And just to throw a name out there that hasn't been mentioned that goes back some, Larry Nance.

TheReal Kendall
07-08-2013, 03:50 PM
Top 100 VC dunks...enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHG1g8IFbQk

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


VC is the GOAT dunker!

lakerspng
07-08-2013, 03:52 PM
You think Kobe is a top 5 dunker?


VC
MJ
Nique
J.Rich
Blake Griffin/Dr.J

He has as many in-game posters on top quality players (bigs & smalls) as anyone I can recall. And the variety of dunks he's thrown down on guys, is really on par with anyone.

Just this past year in his 17th season, he had two of the top 5 dunks (posters) of the year.

vegasbigshots
07-08-2013, 03:55 PM
The OP should have titled it "The Official Top 5 Dunkers All-Times from an 11 year old". :lol

My top 3. No particular order.
-VC
-MJ
-Dominique

*Note: LBJ and Kobe don't belong on the top 5.

*Special nomination for Spud Webb*

HoopsFanNumero1
07-08-2013, 03:58 PM
How can someone not have Carter at number one?

PickernRoller
07-08-2013, 03:59 PM
Lebron really? :roll: :roll: Might as well include Shaq...:lol

Twiens
07-08-2013, 04:00 PM
If we're talking IN-GAME, then Kobe is probably top 5. The amount of variety, and posters he's had is unreal. Just below Jordan/Nique/Vince but above Blake/Jrich and Lebron "One-handed power dunk" James

Rake2204
07-08-2013, 04:02 PM
I've never watched Dr. J play; I'm too young. So I have him on my list from reputation only. But does he have his reputation from being the first player to really do flashy dunks? Or because his dunks were actually that good? The only video clips I've seen of him he's ridiculously smooth but, similar to Lebron, he seems to have a limited variety. Again, I never watched him, so just wondering.Yeah, rating dunkers on an all-time scale can get a little funny after extending past 1985 or so, just because the dunk is in a constant state of evolution, so many fellows from the past just didn't really know what was possible to pull off.

That said, Julius seems to have a fair amount of dunks that stand the test of time. Like, David Thompson is another dunker I tend to see thrown about on all-time lists but from the very sparse amount of highlights, it's been really tough to see which of his slams I'm supposed to be really impressed with (it always seems to be that two hand tip dunk).

With Julius though, some of his slams just seem like the straight swoopers you speak of, but he was also cuffing the rock, jumping from the free throw line, and crushing of folks until the day he retired.

The Cradle (age 33): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzq7e86m_W4

Free Throw Line: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYrjX5pihgI

Crushing on Mark Eaton as a mid 30 year old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds-OyyL-aCY

But as you've said, his clips can be tough to come by. The majority of them tend to be from his late NBA years, past his true athletic prime (as a 30+ year old). So it can tough to imagine exactly what he was doing as a 22 year old with the Squires. If nothing else, I've always thought the '77 Finals provided at least a glimpse of what he brought to the table, dunking wise. His dunk on Bob Gross is still kind of astounding for me to watch, in terms of the sudden rise, distance, and fearlessness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sydqhxpN2ms

All that said, I'm not really sure where I rank Dr. J because there's so much I don't know, but he's one of those guys that transcends dunking generations to me.

PAOK
07-08-2013, 04:10 PM
Vince by far... he had both creativity and power in his dunks

honorable mentions Wilkins and Dr J

Dro
07-08-2013, 04:15 PM
1. LeBron James
2. Blake Griffin
3. Vince Carter
4. Jason Richardson
5. Shawn Kemp



Honarable mention: Dominique Wilkins, Desmond Mason, Jerald Green, Kobe Bryant.

We can all agree with this.
Lol @ the bolded...Vince Carter is number 1 easily. LoL @ Jordan being nowhere to be found...Jordan has the most facials in the history of the league for a guard and more than anybody not named Shaq or Vince Carter. And he probably has more facials than Vince actually. The rest of your list isn't bad. Iguodala deserves a mention also. He had some great dunks in the dunk contest. And by the way its Gerald Green, not Jerald.

Dro
07-08-2013, 04:24 PM
Pippen doesn't get enough credit as a dunker. He wasn't a creative dunker but his collection of posters probably beats everyone.
You're overstating this. Yes, I agree Pippen has some great posters, plenty actually. But it still pails in comparison to his own teammate...

kshutts1
07-08-2013, 04:43 PM
Yeah, rating dunkers on an all-time scale can get a little funny after extending past 1985 or so, just because the dunk is in a constant state of evolution, so many fellows from the past just didn't really know what was possible to pull off.

That said, Julius seems to have a fair amount of dunks that stand the test of time. Like, David Thompson is another dunker I tend to see thrown about on all-time lists but from the very sparse amount of highlights, it's been really tough to see which of his slams I'm supposed to be really impressed with (it always seems to be that two hand tip dunk).

With Julius though, some of his slams just seem like the straight swoopers you speak of, but he was also cuffing the rock, jumping from the free throw line, and crushing of folks until the day he retired.

The Cradle (age 33): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzq7e86m_W4

Free Throw Line: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYrjX5pihgI

Crushing on Mark Eaton as a mid 30 year old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds-OyyL-aCY

But as you've said, his clips can be tough to come by. The majority of them tend to be from his late NBA years, past his true athletic prime (as a 30+ year old). So it can tough to imagine exactly what he was doing as a 22 year old with the Squires. If nothing else, I've always thought the '77 Finals provided at least a glimpse of what he brought to the table, dunking wise. His dunk on Bob Gross is still kind of astounding for me to watch, in terms of the sudden rise, distance, and fearlessness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sydqhxpN2ms

All that said, I'm not really sure where I rank Dr. J because there's so much I don't know, but he's one of those guys that transcends dunking generations to me.

Props for this post. I appreciate the info/clips. :cheers:

Dionysus
07-08-2013, 04:43 PM
Lebron really? :roll: :roll: Might as well include Shaq...:lol

:facepalm Why do you blokes hate LeBron so much? His head is over the rim on every dunk. Have you seen him in pre game warmups? He does 360's and between the legs with no sweat at all. Blind arse yanking wankas need to freaking get shot I swear.:facepalm

AirFederer
07-08-2013, 04:44 PM
VC
MJ
.
.
.
Nique
Dr J
Kemp
Tmac
Steve Francis
.
.
.
.


Honourable mentions to Pippen for his facials. The Ewing Dunk is imho the best poster of all time.

kamil
07-08-2013, 04:46 PM
:facepalm Why do you blokes hate LeBron so much? His head is over the rim on every dunk. Have you seen him in pre game warmups? He does 360's and between the legs with no sweat at all. Blind arse yanking wankas need to freaking get shot I swear.:facepalm

OMG! HIS HEAD IS ABOVE THE RIM! THE GOAT DUNKER!

:rolleyes:

riseagainst
07-08-2013, 04:51 PM
OMG! HIS HEAD IS ABOVE THE RIM! THE GOAT DUNKER!

:rolleyes:

:oldlol:

Rake2204
07-08-2013, 05:00 PM
I've seen a ton of basketball in my life. I have no issue with Lebron making someone's top ten or so. But there are a handfull of guys who are just definitively better, first and foremost being VC.

I was a little older during his breakout first couple years, like in college (in fact I played against him I like to say, even though I never saw the court), so I was old enough to know it wasn't just youthfull fancy. The guy was like a shooting star. He was doing things every night in game that were just absurd. The reverse along the baseline in Indiana I still can't figure out. He was hands down the best I've ever seen.

I'm not the world's biggest Jordan fan. But it's crazy how of all the legend that has carried on about him, his in game dunking has almost not lived on the way it should. Jordan was rediculous in game. I just watched some top 100 Jordan moments on youtube, and once you get past the moments everyone remembers, you'll see things that are just rediculous happening on a random Wednesday night, for some reason often in Atlanta. Remember, it wasn't that long ago, but we weren't getting round the clock access to highlights on ESPN or TNT, or at the touch of a button online to see this stuff. You either caught it or you didn't. And obviously the lack of footage affects Dr. J even more, but it wasn't that long ago that you could just not have seen a play.

And all that said, I remember actively liking Nique better as a dunker in game. Although looking back that's probably just wrong.

Shawn Kemp is the next that comes to mind.

I'm a little young to have seen a ton of Dr. J, but enough to know that his stuff was rediculous.

And just to throw a name out there that hasn't been mentioned that goes back some, Larry Nance.Well said. I have the same thoughts on Carter. I'm a big fan of his because of his dunking (as opposed to favoring his dunking because I was a fan of his). I didn't pay too close attention to him while he was in college (seemed Jamison was the primetime guy on that team) but the moment I saw that reverse against Indiana his rookie year, Carter became must see TV. And as you said, for a while there, it was something new and amazing almost every night. I had that feeling for a very brief moment of time with Blake Griffin a few years ago, but it pales in comparison.

I agree regarding Jordan as well. Strangely, I think his dunking lore sometimes suffers from his prominence. All his famous dunks seem to take precedent, suggesting they're accurate representations of the whole package. It's kind of similar how Magic Johnson was always represented by the same NBA Superstars music video package (sky hook, buzzer beater, bounce pass from butt, look away to Rambis). In truth, there's so much more to the story (like Magic's NPZ YouTube mix).

wakencdukest
07-08-2013, 07:31 PM
I am really not sure if you are serious?


EDIT: Ah, Laker fan (Kobe fan?)... i see... you guys need to stop hating eventually...


Not a Kobe ******ger dude. Find how many posts I've made about Kobe, you might find 2 if you're lucky, and they might be bashing Kobe. Just saying Lebron gets a lot of wide open dunks and rarely rises up in traffic to posterize someone, that's all. He's a great player, but don't take it personally that he's not among the greatest dunkers the game has seen.

jjayfive
07-08-2013, 07:36 PM
VC
jordan
Wilkens
DR. J

not in any order


Than everyone else

ThickassGlasses
07-08-2013, 07:44 PM
No one should be upset at LeBron being towards the top of the list based on his Cleveland days and a few rare dunks while being in a Heat jersey..

But, he is not top 5. Everyone is getting their panties in a bunch because he isn't creative? Who the hell cares when he puts as much power, speed, and height into his dunks then anyone else has? Dunks don't always have to be spinning, reverse, windmilling showboat baskets, power dunks still get 2 points.


Vince is obviously one by a mile, then Dr. J, then a small group of folk like MJ, Kemp, Nique, but LeBron and Kobe could very easily come in the next tier.

AllenIverson3
07-08-2013, 07:47 PM
If anyone has someone other than Vince Carter as their number one, you should be banned....

kshutts1
07-08-2013, 08:11 PM
No one should be upset at LeBron being towards the top of the list based on his Cleveland days and a few rare dunks while being in a Heat jersey..

But, he is not top 5. Everyone is getting their panties in a bunch because he isn't creative? Who the hell cares when he puts as much power, speed, and height into his dunks then anyone else has? Dunks don't always have to be spinning, reverse, windmilling showboat baskets, power dunks still get 2 points.


Vince is obviously one by a mile, then Dr. J, then a small group of folk like MJ, Kemp, Nique, but LeBron and Kobe could very easily come in the next tier.

When discussing best dunkers of all time, I care.

jzek
07-08-2013, 08:28 PM
In order:

Vince Carter
Jason Richardson
'Nique
Jordan
Brent Barry (obligatory white guy)

Rockets(T-mac)
07-08-2013, 08:30 PM
You could put Lebron in the top 10 if you want, but saying he's top 5 is just retarded. Lebron is not creative as a dunker. He can jump out of gym, and has incredible power, but he is not that creative. Carter had probably the fullest and smoothest windmills ever and his 360s were smooth too. There really is no argument for Lebron over guys like Carter.

iggy>
07-08-2013, 08:31 PM
Vc is the goat, doc is a close 2nd.

jzek
07-08-2013, 08:33 PM
Vc is the goat, doc is a close 2nd.

Agree on Vince being the GOAT dunker... it's not even debatable.

Doc's dunks are so... ordinary. :confusedshrug:

During his time it was "amazing" but any black athlete nowadays can do his dunks.

iggy>
07-08-2013, 08:35 PM
T mac is underrated

Frozen1
07-08-2013, 08:47 PM
Lebron stans think he is the best in everything. The only thing he is not the best is stat padding. Because when your FG% drops from 56% in the regular season to 42% in the nba finals it does not show anything.

But back on the topic subject, lebron is just an average dunker, and that

Rockets(T-mac)
07-08-2013, 08:54 PM
[quote=Frozen1]Lebron stans think he is the best in everything. The only thing he is not the best is stat padding. Because when your FG% drops from 56% in the regular season to 42% in the nba finals it does not show anything.

But back on the topic subject, lebron is just an average dunker, and that

kennethgriffin
07-08-2013, 08:54 PM
kobes a way more creative dunker with more style than lebron james is

QuebecBaller
07-08-2013, 08:55 PM
VC
MJ
'Nique
Kemp
Dr J

honorable mention to : Gerald Green, Desmond Mason, Harold Miner, J-Rich

Frozen1
07-08-2013, 08:57 PM
kobes a way more creative dunker with more style than lebron james is


Yeah, old ass kobe pullig the dunk of the year in my opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQOGbAVMeB4

Very fluid and great plastic in this dunk.

JimmyMcAdocious
07-08-2013, 09:03 PM
Top 100 VC dunks...enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHG1g8IFbQk

No one does a better windmill than Carter. I'm not exactly sure why his windmill dunks look so much better than everyone else, but it does... And his body control is unbelievable on most of the reverse dunks. Completely goes against the momentum and just sticks.

btw you watch that and he had so many ridiculous posters just off of one or two dribbles in a halfcourt set. Insane.

The JKidd Kid
07-08-2013, 09:04 PM
Dr J
Vince Carter
Shawn Kemp
Prime Amare Stoudamire
Young Kobe

Its nice to see 2 former Nets on the list and I'm sure that a prime Kenyon Martin isnt far behind these guys.

dobbins66
07-08-2013, 09:06 PM
I'd say an undisputable three are:
MJ
VC
Dr. J
Without these guys, your list is jacked up.

I agree and would add Dominique as a fourth. Too many young guys think the NBA started 10 years ago and never saw Doc in his prime.

Svendiggity
07-08-2013, 09:16 PM
Kobe had the flexibility and contortion in the air to make amazing dunks even when a defender was in his way. MJ and Vince were better explosive athletes but the amount of times Kobe posterized people and dunked alley oops that would have been layups for anyone else was always impressive to me.

Jameerthefear
07-08-2013, 09:19 PM
You Lebron stans are fvcking ridiculous. Tell me when he does insane stuff like this:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mapovsGXqk1rolwo1o1_500.gif

http://i.imgur.com/n7xJjCl.gif

Peteballa
07-08-2013, 09:24 PM
Probably not top 5, but Jason Richardson was a beast when it came to dunking.

Lebron23
07-08-2013, 09:26 PM
Probably not top 5, but Jason Richardson was a beast when it came to dunking.


He's the most creative dunker of all time. Desmond Mason also belongs in this list.

eliteballer
07-08-2013, 09:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvWy9liwC7U

Lakers2877
07-08-2013, 09:53 PM
1. LeBron James
2. Blake Griffin
3. Vince Carter
4. Jason Richardson
5. Shawn Kemp



Honarable mention: Dominique Wilkins, Desmond Mason, Jerald Green, Kobe Bryant.

We can all agree with this.
Lol at no Jordan and Nique not in the top 5. And Vince > Lebron and Blake all day, everyday

kaiteng
07-08-2013, 09:59 PM
Until LeBron putting his name in at least one NBA dunk contest, his name should never be mentioned in this list.

memetherapy
07-08-2013, 10:13 PM
Until LeBron putting his name in at least one NBA dunk contest, his name should never be mentioned in this list.

Even though Lebron shouldn't even be involved in the conversation of top 5 dunkers, you're reasoning sucks. In-game dunks is more important than dunk contest dunks...and amongst in-game dunks, open fastbreak windmill or 360s are just a cherry on top. Facials/in traffic dunks is what really matters.

tgan3
07-08-2013, 10:16 PM
NBA players only or what?

If non-nba guys like

T-Dub, Air Up There, Golden Child...Basically most of TFB and

College dunkers: Doug Anderson, DJ Stephens and James Justice

hateraid
07-08-2013, 10:21 PM
Uh, no it doesnt. Their dunks from games does. Watch some old school MJ clips with his best dunks and he's easily one of the best. Kobe as well, especially since he won the dunk contest. LeBron* hasn't done much to be put in the same league with dunks. He's all power and no finesse.

I ain't no youngin so don't think I haven't seen my fair footage of any of these players. I'm even ranking Doc and Nique by my personal experience and not reputation.
I wasn't degrading these players. I did state that I have no problem with any of them in a top five. The reason I posted what I did is because let's say for example what seperates those 3 from players like Jason Richardson, David Thompson, or Tracy McGrady? It's their exposure and frequency of highlights. In terms of ability they're at that level. In fact based on a level sense of frequency I may have J-Rich and DT ahead. The reason I compiled my list is:

1- VC goes without say
2- Docs combination of height, length and big ass hands had the ability to move the ball in several different directions before throwing it down
3- Kemp and his crazy ass control after catching a lob and "did you see that?" in your face moments
4- Nique with his superior control and throw down power similar to Kenyon Martin

The rest of Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, DT, and J-Rich I have no problem rounding out my list

Element
07-08-2013, 10:38 PM
Vince
Kemp
Nique
MJ
Kobe

LMAO at any list:

- With LeBron anywhere near the top 10
- With MJ out of the Top 5
- With Vince not as GOAT

As far as Superstars of the post MJ era:

VC>Kobe>T-Mac>Wade>LeBron

LeBron's dunks are entertaining and they're breathtaking when you're watching them live at an arena. But he lacks flare, creativity, posters on legit bigs (lmao@ that JET dunk being hyped up so much)...Kobe used to spin to split a double team, then go for a freaking 360 seemingly every couple of nights. Or reverse dunk on the likes of KG, serve up multiple facials on Timmy and D-Rob in the same game (and countless times throughout that series), do some crazy sh.it mid air while catching alleys that weren't even meant to be dunked etc.

VC is easily GOAT. But Kobe is the best after him of his generation. LeBron doesn't even compare to Prime Tracy in that regard who had tons of nasty facials and three sixty dunks, windmills etc himself.

Dionysus
07-08-2013, 10:46 PM
Lol at no Jordan and Nique not in the top 5. And Vince > Lebron and Blake all day, everyday

Jordan?:oldlol:

Jordan is the second most overrated dunker All-time only behind Dr J.

Ill Will
07-08-2013, 10:52 PM
the fact that lebron and blake griffin are above VC (let alone even on the list) is an insult to the art. vince epitomized american bball dominance and dunking prowess with his olympic dunk.

http://www.studzsports.com/photos/Basketball/vince-carter-olympic-dunk.jpg

arguably the best in-game dunk the world's ever seen

SilkkTheShocker
07-08-2013, 10:55 PM
Best Dunkers Of All-Time:

1. LeBron
2. Blake Griffin



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the rest

Johnny Jones
07-08-2013, 10:58 PM
Best Dunkers Of All-Time:

1. LeBron
2. Blake Griffin



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the rest How old are you? 12?

iggy>
07-08-2013, 11:13 PM
Jordan?:oldlol:

Jordan is the second most overrated dunker All-time only behind Dr J.
The doc dunked on alot of great centers. The centers in todays game are trash. The two best dunks last year were on little guys, brandon knight and jason terry.

KOBE143
07-09-2013, 02:01 AM
Unbiased/Real Top 5 Dunkers of All Time

1. Vince Carter
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Michael Jordon
4. Shawn Kemp
5. Dominique Wilkins

Honorable mention: DR. J, Jrich, Blake Griffin, Daryl Dawkins, David Thompson

Anyone who disagree are idiot or kids who only watch basketball since The DECISION..

:applause:

DaHeezy
07-09-2013, 02:21 AM
Unbiased/Real Top 5 Dunkers of All Time

1. Vince Carter
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Michael Jordon
4. Shawn Kemp
5. Dominique Wilkins

Honorable mention: DR. J, Jrich, Blake Griffin, Daryl Dawkins, David Thompson

Anyone who disagree are idiot or kids who only watch basketball since The DECISION..

:applause:

And which decision did you start watching? Dwight Howard's?

Jameerthefear
07-09-2013, 02:28 AM
Best Dunkers Of All-Time:

1. LeBron
2. Blake Griffin



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the rest
Why the hell were you unbanned? Like honestly.

PickernRoller
07-09-2013, 02:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvWy9liwC7U

Style points 10/10.

Swag 10/10.

Creativity 9/10.

Variaty 9/10.

Power 6/10.

d.bball.guy
07-09-2013, 02:46 AM
LeBron #1 :roll: :facepalm VC not being #1 is a cardinal sin.

TonyMontana
07-09-2013, 02:47 AM
1. Shaq
2. LeBron
3. Dr. J
4. Vince Carter
5. Blake Griffin

kamil
07-09-2013, 02:52 AM
1. Shaq
2. LeBron
3. Dr. J
4. Vince Carter
5. Blake Griffin

Holy dumbass batman!

KG215
07-09-2013, 03:00 AM
You know some of those cheese dunks in 2K guys like LeBron, Iggy, Westbrook, Howard, etc. pull-off? The ones where they'll catch the ball 10-15 feet from the basket, take a dribble or two while kinda sorta trying to just run through their man, and end up just elevating and throwing down a nasty dunk? I'm talking about the bullshit unrealistic ones...

Yeah, Vince Carter actually pulled off dunks like that in his prime with regularity. In the halfcourt, 15 or so feet from the basket, he'd take a dribble and you're thinking know way in hell he can do anything but shoot a runner, layup, or pull-up jumper, then he'd just explode in a crowd and throw down a vicious dunk.

havoc33
07-09-2013, 05:26 AM
1. Shaq
2. LeBron
3. Dr. J
4. Vince Carter
5. Blake Griffin
Lol, that's the worst top 5 I've seen in a while.

Magic 32
07-09-2013, 06:14 AM
1. VC
2. Dominique
3. Jordan
4. Blake
5. Kemp


Dr. J is overrated. Even more than with Jordan, most of his dunks only look special because of his freakishly large hands.

dgnr8
07-09-2013, 06:23 AM
Vince Carter says.. HELLO..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHG1g8IFbQk

:bowdown:






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PickernRoller
07-09-2013, 06:39 AM
Vince Carter says.. HELLO..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHG1g8IFbQk

:

10/10 in every category. Dude's the best plain and simple.

mugiwara
07-09-2013, 09:19 AM
Its VC, Lebron can in no way be considered as GOAT dunker. Dude never dunks in traffic, in the finals opting for safe layups over small guards and then complaining about contact to refs FFS lebron dunk the ball! The Greatest dunkers are looking to put you on a poster any chance they get! Has lebron ever even dunked on a big man? or does he just jump over midget scrubs and on ageing guards?

shallehalle
07-09-2013, 09:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvWy9liwC7U
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

8:42 :cheers:

unknowns8
07-09-2013, 12:19 PM
if we're talking in-game then in no particular order its gotta be:

Vince
MJ
Kemp
Nique
Shaq


but if we're adding the dunk contests/street/and1 type dunks then add in no particular order:

stacey augmon
isiah ryder
nate robinson
jerald green
dwight howard

LBJ 23
07-09-2013, 01:06 PM
Well, of course VC is the GOAT dunker and those saying Lebron is above him are clearly just trolling or started watching NBA yesterday. But, it's almost identical stupid to see posters saying that Lebron is nowhere close to the best dunkers.

He may not be in the top 5, but he's certainly somewhere in the top 10 range when in comes to dunking. I mean, the guy literally jumped over a player or dunked almost from a free throw line like it's some regular dunk in a freakin NBA game. He did dunks in games which were attempted or done by other all time great dunkers(minus Carter and McGee:lol) only in a dunk-contest.

Like one poster before me said, rating dunks it's also subjective so one may like crazy finnese and creativity while other will prefer long-jumping or high-flying power dunks. Also, people here acting like Lebron has no creativity, of course he's not as fluid as other smaller two-feet jumping players, but for his size he is creative. In NBA games he has done almost all kinds of dunks which other have done, indeed not as fluidly or gracefully.

Look at this dunk, no creativity at all but it's like he's walking on the air. How can someone not like these kind of dunks also? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDwkLIHKYCs

TheReal Kendall
07-09-2013, 01:28 PM
Well, of course VC is the GOAT dunker and those saying Lebron is above him are clearly just trolling or started watching NBA yesterday. But, it's almost identical stupid to see posters saying that Lebron is nowhere close to the best dunkers.

He may not be in the top 5, but he's certainly somewhere in the top 10 range when in comes to dunking. I mean, the guy literally jumped over a player or dunked almost from a free throw line like it's some regular dunk in a freakin NBA game. He did dunks in games which were attempted or done by other all time great dunkers(minus Carter and McGee:lol) only in a dunk-contest.

Like one poster before me said, rating dunks it's also subjective so one may like crazy finnese and creativity while other will prefer long-jumping or high-flying power dunks. Also, people here acting like Lebron has no creativity, of course he's not as fluid as other smaller two-feet jumping players, but for his size he is creative. In NBA games he has done almost all kinds of dunks which other have done, indeed not as fluidly or gracefully.

Look at this dunk, no creativity at all but it's like he's walking on the air. How can someone not like these kind of dunks also? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDwkLIHKYCs


:facepalm

He's not top 10 either bro not in dunks.

That youtube clip weak also. Deng didn't jump he moved out the way.

You Lebron stans are ridiculous :facepalm

LBJ 23
07-09-2013, 01:42 PM
:facepalm

He's not top 10 either bro not in dunks.

That youtube clip weak also. Deng didn't jump he moved out the way.

You Lebron stans are ridiculous :facepalm


Quality poster right here.

Only counter argument he brings is that Deng moved out of the way when my initial point when posting that link was clearly not Lebron posterizing or dunking on someone. I would post a different link if that was my point. So even when you try to counter-argument something, you fail badly.

Dro
07-09-2013, 01:46 PM
:facepalm Why do you blokes hate LeBron so much? His head is over the rim on every dunk. Have you seen him in pre game warmups? He does 360's and between the legs with no sweat at all. Blind arse yanking wankas need to freaking get shot I swear.:facepalm
Well since doing nice dunks in pre-game warmups gets you on the list, we might as well put Darvin Ham and Harold Miner up there too:rockon:

TheReal Kendall
07-09-2013, 01:47 PM
Quality poster right here.

Only counter argument he brings is that Deng moved out of the way when my initial point when posting that link was clearly not Lebron posterizing or dunking on someone. I would post a different link if that was my point. So even when you try to counter-argument something, you fail badly.

My bad I read the youtube title and though you said that in your post.

He does that dunk all the time though. He has no creativity. He has like 2 dunks he always does.

There are so many dunkers in the history of basketball that are clearly better than him in that area.

andgar923
07-09-2013, 01:48 PM
I'd take Kobe>> LBJ

Why no mention of Eddie Jones?

Better than Kobe and LBJ

Some people have Griffin over Kemp and Nique? yes he has some nice dunks, but some of his best dunks aren't even real dunks.

Yes I'm an MJ stan but some of you are really underrating how vicious he was. This was before the new rims, so his dunks didn't appear to be as powerful as they do now, but they were. The rim bends differently than pre-Shaq, gives the illusion that a dunk is more powerful than before.

Speaking of Shaq

Dro
07-09-2013, 01:49 PM
Well said. I have the same thoughts on Carter. I'm a big fan of his because of his dunking (as opposed to favoring his dunking because I was a fan of his). I didn't pay too close attention to him while he was in college (seemed Jamison was the primetime guy on that team) but the moment I saw that reverse against Indiana his rookie year, Carter became must see TV. And as you said, for a while there, it was something new and amazing almost every night. I had that feeling for a very brief moment of time with Blake Griffin a few years ago, but it pales in comparison.

I agree regarding Jordan as well. Strangely, I think his dunking lore sometimes suffers from his prominence. All his famous dunks seem to take precedent, suggesting they're accurate representations of the whole package. It's kind of similar how Magic Johnson was always represented by the same NBA Superstars music video package (sky hook, buzzer beater, bounce pass from butt, look away to Rambis). In truth, there's so much more to the story (like Magic's NPZ YouTube mix).
You summed up the exact reason I keep bumping my thread. Because there's so much stuff on there that I KNOW people haven't seen. I got tired of seeing the same highlights from Come Fly With Me, the same layup vs. the Lakers, the same dunk on Ewing, the same crossover on Russell, etc.

Dro
07-09-2013, 02:02 PM
[QUOTE=andgar923]I'd take Kobe>> LBJ

Why no mention of Eddie Jones?

Better than Kobe and LBJ
Some people have Griffin over Kemp and Nique? yes he has some nice dunks, but some of his best dunks aren't even real dunks.

Yes I'm an MJ stan but some of you are really underrating how vicious he was. This was before the new rims, so his dunks didn't appear to be as powerful as they do now, but they were. The rim bends differently than pre-Shaq, gives the illusion that a dunk is more powerful than before.

Speaking of Shaq

LBJ 23
07-09-2013, 02:06 PM
He does that dunk all the time though. He has no creativity. He has like 2 dunks he always does.
.


That's also an interesting myth I keep reading on here. It's like people are trying to make something true by repeating it over and over again even if it's a lie. Communist leaders tactic and Kobe fans tactic when it comes to Lebron.

It's true that Lebron MOSTLY does only like 2 different dunks in games. But I bet he's also somewhere at the top when it comes to most dunks per game ratio. So he dunks a lot of times in games and of course he will do the same and the easiest dunk over and over again.

Having said that, if you think about it, there are really not many dunks which other great dunkers have done in games that Lebron hasn't. He has done one handed windmills, left handed windmills, two-handed windmills, reverse double pump dunks and alley oops,360(not many), off the backboard dunks, between the legs(not in game though), almost from a free throw line in-game dunk, some huge poster dunks and there are probably more I can't remember right now.

So this ''Lebron is not creative, has only like 2 dunks'' which keeps getting posted on here is really just a myth and nothing more.

branslowski
07-09-2013, 02:09 PM
You ppl need to go to youtube or somethin and research Kobe:oldlol:

Dudes posterized the following:

Hakeem Olajuwon
Dwight Howard
Duncan
Dirk
Nash
Yao

Not even including the bodies he caught this past season. And he's way better than LeBron...Not to mention that he has a slamdunk title under his belt.

Stay classy ISH..:oldlol:

TheReal Kendall
07-09-2013, 02:45 PM
That's also an interesting myth I keep reading on here. It's like people are trying to make something true by repeating it over and over again even if it's a lie. Communist leaders tactic and Kobe fans tactic when it comes to Lebron.

It's true that Lebron MOSTLY does only like 2 different dunks in games. But I bet he's also somewhere at the top when it comes to most dunks per game ratio. So he dunks a lot of times in games and of course he will do the same and the easiest dunk over and over again.

Having said that, if you think about it, there are really not many dunks which other great dunkers have done in games that Lebron hasn't. He has done one handed windmills, left handed windmills, two-handed windmills, reverse double pump dunks and alley oops,360(not many), off the backboard dunks, between the legs(not in game though), almost from a free throw line in-game dunk, some huge poster dunks and there are probably more I can't remember right now.

So this ''Lebron is not creative, has only like 2 dunks'' which keeps getting posted on here is really just a myth and nothing more.

Where's the footage of all these dunks you speak of?

VC has crazy video game type dunks on big men.

Like I said there are so many other dunkers that are better than Lebron.

Check out that vid of VC and then comeback and say Lebron is even remotely close.

Lebron isn't even close to J.Rich or Kobe. I'd say maybe Top 15-20 all time dunkers

LBJ 23
07-09-2013, 03:44 PM
Where's the footage of all these dunks you speak of?


Mostly on youtube...


Or did you expect from me to post a vid of every dunk I mentioned?

TheReal Kendall
07-09-2013, 03:51 PM
Mostly on youtube...


Or did you expect from me to post a vid of every dunk I mentioned?

Yeah.:oldlol:

I'm not about to search for Lebron James dunks when I already know there are only like 2 with different variations

shallehalle
07-09-2013, 04:04 PM
Yeah.:oldlol:

I'm not about to search for Lebron James dunks when I already know there are only like 2 with different variations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZY75UC8m0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG6alkIT7RE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnKTCYwulAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKCAk9zzXU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KTj5yYyc90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIpzWvvD550

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM01tXJgAtY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UpyYLwSoR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey2kIvhwN28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPd5AlLyZa8

:banghead:

LBJ 23
07-09-2013, 04:07 PM
Yeah.:oldlol:

I'm not about to search for Lebron James dunks when I already know there are only like 2 with different variations


If you really know that then I'm not sure what you doing on NBA forum. It really seems like you are following NBA very closely with statements like this.

LBJ 23
07-09-2013, 04:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZY75UC8m0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG6alkIT7RE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnKTCYwulAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKCAk9zzXU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KTj5yYyc90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIpzWvvD550

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM01tXJgAtY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UpyYLwSoR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey2kIvhwN28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPd5AlLyZa8

:banghead:

Include that one below and he did pretty much all kinds of windmill dunk possible except 360+windmill. But yeah he's not creative at all and can do only 2 dunks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmKZRhlhwM

Sham
07-09-2013, 04:14 PM
10 dunkers better than Lebron:

1. VC
2. KB
3. MJ
4. Jason Richardson
5. Dominique Wilson
6. Gerald Green
7. Blake Griffin
8. Shawn Kemp
9. Dr. J
10. Stromile Swift

TheReal Kendall
07-09-2013, 04:27 PM
Include that one below and he did pretty much all kinds of windmill dunk possible except 360+windmill. But yeah he's not creative at all and can do only 2 dunks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmKZRhlhwM

:biggums:

Are you serious bro? :facepalm

Same freaking dunks over and over and over again.

No creativity and they are all on fastbreaks.

Like I said Top 15-20 and that's being generous

You stans are loco

Sham
07-09-2013, 05:13 PM
Lebron gets dunked on by then high schooler Jordan Crawford.....the video that Nike tried to cover up LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sL3KDhhUZ0

LBJ 23
07-09-2013, 05:20 PM
Lebron gets dunked on by then high schooler Jordan Crawford.....the video that Nike tried to cover up LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sL3KDhhUZ0


Oh look, another quality poster. Other player dunking on Lebron tells us soo much about Lebron as a dunker :applause:

Scholar
07-09-2013, 06:07 PM
:facepalm @ any top 5 dunkers list that doesn't mention Dr. J. GTFO here with that nonsense.

JMT
07-09-2013, 06:14 PM
:facepalm @ any top 5 dunkers list that doesn't mention Dr. J. GTFO here with that nonsense.

No kidding. Greatest dunkers who played in the last 10 years.

Dro
07-09-2013, 06:14 PM
No kidding. Greatest dunkers who played in the last 10 years.
Basically....

memetherapy
07-09-2013, 06:17 PM
:facepalm @ any top 5 dunkers list that doesn't mention Dr. J. GTFO here with that nonsense.

Most of us haven't seen Dr.J play during his prime years... in fact, I've only seen the same footage everyone else has seen since I'm only 27. I think it's a little more ridiculous to take it as fact that he's the best dunker without actually having seen that much... I mean, people like to glorify the good ol' days all the time. Apparently NBA players fought mountain lions in the good ol' days too.

Dro
07-09-2013, 06:22 PM
Most of us haven't seen Dr.J play during his prime years... in fact, I've only seen the same footage everyone else has seen since I'm only 27. I think it's a little more ridiculous to take it as fact that he's the best dunker without actually having seen that much... I mean, people like to glorify the good ol' days all the time. Apparently NBA players fought mountain lions in the good ol' days too.
But see, there is other footage out there, you just have to really search for it. Again, this is one of the reason's I keep bumping my Jordan thread because everybody has seen the same highlights over and over again and over half of that video is full of stuff that many people have never seen. I understand what you're saying though, its hard to just claim somebody is great without ever having seen them play.

Rake2204
07-09-2013, 06:35 PM
Well, of course VC is the GOAT dunker and those saying Lebron is above him are clearly just trolling or started watching NBA yesterday. But, it's almost identical stupid to see posters saying that Lebron is nowhere close to the best dunkers.

He may not be in the top 5, but he's certainly somewhere in the top 10 range when in comes to dunking. I mean, the guy literally jumped over a player or dunked almost from a free throw line like it's some regular dunk in a freakin NBA game. He did dunks in games which were attempted or done by other all time great dunkers(minus Carter and McGee:lol) only in a dunk-contest.

Like one poster before me said, rating dunks it's also subjective so one may like crazy finnese and creativity while other will prefer long-jumping or high-flying power dunks. Also, people here acting like Lebron has no creativity, of course he's not as fluid as other smaller two-feet jumping players, but for his size he is creative. In NBA games he has done almost all kinds of dunks which other have done, indeed not as fluidly or gracefully.

Look at this dunk, no creativity at all but it's like he's walking on the air. How can someone not like these kind of dunks also? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDwkLIHKYCsYeah, that's always been one of the funny things about James' dunking. I can't entirely put my finger on it. I used to be amazed by a fair amount of his jams but at some point, it all began to feel a little monotonous.

He's still an all-time great dunker. I don't know if that means he's top 10, top 20 or top 50. But even with that in mind, and even acknowledging the different types of dunks he's pulled off in-game, I think there's something about his jams that makes people feel as though they've seen it all before. Maybe we can chalk it up to style or flavor. He dunks hard, but it just feels like 99% of his jams are one-handers off one foot or some kind of reverse with no hang.

It sounds funny, but even his flashiest dunks seem to feel a little... routine. The home crowd's always going to love them and they're going to be good and strong, but I just don't have that wonder and anticipation when he breaks into the open floor. Even when he pulled off a 360, it all felt kind of plain and anti-climatic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSHQFryWTNM).

You mentioned a lack of fluidity and grace and I think you may be on to something there. He's in this strange middle world where his slams don't look as fantastic as a VC or J-Rich, but then they're also not as raw as a Kenyon Martin or Shawn Kemp. A lot of times, his dunks are just... there.

ThaRegul8r
07-09-2013, 06:47 PM
Most of us haven't seen Dr.J play during his prime years... in fact, I've only seen the same footage everyone else has seen since I'm only 27. I think it's a little more ridiculous to take it as fact that he's the best dunker without actually having seen that much...

I must point out again that "All Time" means All Time. It doesn't care what you or anyone else has seen and hasn't seen, as "All Time" is independent of any individual poster.

Again, I must bring up something I've talked about over and over again, is the concept of GIESS (Greatest I've Ever Seen). Talk about "Top 5 Dunkers I've Ever Seen rather than "All Time." I don't know why what most people talk about is GIESS, yet they still cling to "All Time." What is it, a blind adherence to tradition? Because "everyone else is doing it?" An inability to do something new (despite the fact that they're actually doing GIESS lists but still slapping the label of GOAT on it)? What?

memetherapy
07-09-2013, 06:57 PM
I must point out again that "All Time" means All Time. It doesn't care what you or anyone else has seen and hasn't seen, as "All Time" is independent of any individual poster.

Again, I must bring up something I've talked about over and over again, is the concept of GIESS (Greatest I've Ever Seen). Talk about "Top 5 Dunkers I've Ever Seen rather than "All Time." I don't know why what most people talk about is GIESS, yet they still cling to "All Time." What is it, a blind adherence to tradition? Because "everyone else is doing it?" An inability to do something new (despite the fact that they're actually doing GIESS lists but still slapping the label of GOAT on it)? What?

It's one thing to argue about this about the 80s, considering there's a lot of footage one can get his hands on. But before that... well, wtf do you want us to do? So you have to be at least 50 years old to have an objective opinion? Based on what I've seen of Dr.J, I think Michael and Vince were better dunkers. Vince, I can say, objectively was a better dunker than MJ because I've watched a lot of their primes... Dr.J, I just don't have that information at my disposal. And I'm personally not into judging greatest of all time depending on context, like there can't ever be a better dunker than the dunker who broke the mold of his generation... that's bullocks. Imagine what the deals going to be like in 1000 years from now with way too much information at our disposal. Do you really think people will buy the argument that Dr.J must be one of the greatest because people have always said so? What are the odds one of the greatest dunkers of all time existed during the infancy of the history of the sport... oh and no one has footage of these dunks btw. That argument wouldn't fly.

So...even though you're right that most people are implicitly substituting "i've ever seen" for "all time", what the **** do you think would be more objective? To take it on faith?

ThaRegul8r
07-10-2013, 01:27 AM
I must point out again that "All Time" means All Time. It doesn't care what you or anyone else has seen and hasn't seen, as "All Time" is independent of any individual poster.

Again, I must bring up something I've talked about over and over again, is the concept of GIESS (Greatest I've Ever Seen). Talk about "Top 5 Dunkers I've Ever Seen rather than "All Time." I don't know why what most people talk about is GIESS, yet they still cling to "All Time." What is it, a blind adherence to tradition? Because "everyone else is doing it?" An inability to do something new (despite the fact that they're actually doing GIESS lists but still slapping the label of GOAT on it)? What?

It's one thing to argue about this about the 80s, considering there's a lot of footage one can get his hands on. But before that... well, wtf do you want us to do? So you have to be at least 50 years old to have an objective opinion? Based on what I've seen of Dr.J, I think Michael and Vince were better dunkers. Vince, I can say, objectively was a better dunker than MJ because I've watched a lot of their primes... Dr.J, I just don't have that information at my disposal. And I'm personally not into judging greatest of all time depending on context, like there can't ever be a better dunker than the dunker who broke the mold of his generation... that's bullocks. Imagine what the deals going to be like in 1000 years from now with way too much information at our disposal. Do you really think people will buy the argument that Dr.J must be one of the greatest because people have always said so? What are the odds one of the greatest dunkers of all time existed during the infancy of the history of the sport... oh and no one has footage of these dunks btw. That argument wouldn't fly.

So...even though you're right that most people are implicitly substituting "i've ever seen" for "all time", what the **** do you think would be more objective? To take it on faith?

The bolded portion is the only thing relevant to what I actually said in my post, and you ignored the question that was specifically asked at the end.

Ultimately

red1
07-10-2013, 01:30 AM
op, even kobe is clearly a better dunker than lebron

aburre21
07-10-2013, 08:04 AM
LeBron has some crazy, monstrous dunks that require extreme athleticism that really get slept on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk7rn6a561o



the one he did against the Mavs in like 06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgKUIqmYUIc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP0_mDhn2RA


check a few of those first dunks out when he double pumps it, etc.


A lot of times, people move out of Bron's way when he has a running start and he doesn't really dunk in traffic because he's a one legged jumper and doesn't jump on two feet and that's why his dunks don't look as aesthetically pleasing. A windmill when jumping off two feet looks way better than when you jump off one foot



LeBron's best dunks are on his season mixes in cleveland and you have to watch those videos to see them

aburre21
07-10-2013, 08:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNyJKLsRvG0



Here's one of those Cleveland mixes. Look at those dunks he does in traffic. The lil windmill in traffic. This guy used to perform aerial assaults in Cleveland. It's crazy how people undermine this guy

Aussie Dunker
07-10-2013, 08:34 AM
Not top 5, but very honorable mention to Desmond Mason...

aburre21
07-10-2013, 08:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgL50wYF7X4


thus another dunk that was crazy :eek:





It's crazy how you have to really search to find these dunks. I seriously hope this man's leaping/dunking ability does not get criminally overlooked in the future

BoutPractice
07-10-2013, 08:47 AM
- Vince Carter
- Dr. J
- Dominique Wilkins
- Shawn Kemp
- Darryl Dawkins
Honourable mention: J-Rich

I'll also throw in some heresy: Shaq is my favourite in-game dunker. There's no technique, no flair... just pure savagery. Currently, my favourite is Westbrook, who always dunks like he's angry at the rim or something.

kshutts1
07-10-2013, 09:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZY75UC8m0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG6alkIT7RE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnKTCYwulAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKCAk9zzXU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KTj5yYyc90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIpzWvvD550

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM01tXJgAtY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UpyYLwSoR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey2kIvhwN28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPd5AlLyZa8

:banghead:

I LOLed at the first 4-5 links. All basically the exact same dunk.

Mind you, I'm not saying Lebron is a bad dunker. He's great. But we're talking All Time (or GIES) and he's just not there. I may even be slightly blinded by how EASY he makes it look. In a way, that both helps, and hurts, his case. Helps it because only a great athlete can make it look so incredibly easy, but hurts it because I get the "ho-hum" feeling, and again.. athlete does not necessarily equal top 5-10 dunker of all time.

And people keep throwing out some older players.... someone whose game I'm unfamiliar with, but I believe he was a flier... Connie Hawkins. Anyone have any dunkinfo on him?

Rake2204
07-10-2013, 09:36 AM
I LOLed at the first 4-5 links. All basically the exact same dunk.

Mind you, I'm not saying Lebron is a bad dunker. He's great. But we're talking All Time (or GIES) and he's just not there. I may even be slightly blinded by how EASY he makes it look. In a way, that both helps, and hurts, his case. Helps it because only a great athlete can make it look so incredibly easy, but hurts it because I get the "ho-hum" feeling, and again.. athlete does not necessarily equal top 5-10 dunker of all time.

And people keep throwing out some older players.... someone whose game I'm unfamiliar with, but I believe he was a flier... Connie Hawkins. Anyone have any dunkinfo on him?Good call on James. He's a great dunker and he's had some all-timers, but that ho-hum feeling tends to pervade these days. Whether it's due to ease or the fact that most of his dunks involve no hang and barely touching the rim (or if it's just a matter of him repeating a dunk all the time that's generally unexciting), they don't give an all-time feeling to most non-Heat fans watching.

Regarding Hawkins, I've really struggled to find footage over the years that showed anything besides really plain, super palm one handers. His overall game seemed unique because he had that Dr. J hand size that allowed him to swoop and move the ball all about in mid-air but from the very few dunking clips that exist, there wasn't a lot of above the rim creativity there.

It's worth noting Hawkins didn't make his NBA debut until 26 or 27 but even then, he'd have seemed young enough to showcase something special yet, from what I've tried to research, it all looks terribly standard. He'd dunk the sure things but he'd opt for a swooping layup for anything slightly contested. I actually think he has a lot more style on his layups than his jams. Here's a quick reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp3UXNVqR9E

Almost all of his dunks looked like this:

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/connie_hawkins_dunk.jpg

I'd say he's a pioneer of the dunk, but it'd be tough to call him one of the all-time best.

kshutts1
07-10-2013, 10:07 AM
Thanks, Rake.

I checked out a Youtube video of him myself and had basically the same conclusion. I wonder how much of an affect the lack of dunking in the league (at the time) had on him. He probably could have been one of the greats. But then again, I guess that's the story of his career in all facets, so he stays true to that.

3 things I really wish had happened that could have altered the NBA landscape:
1) Connie Hawkins played in the L for his entire career (and not joining around 28)

2) Len Bias

3) Jordan never "retires" for baseball

Note -- In doing research on Len Bias, I saw another name that I want to throw into the dunk discussion... Darryl Dawkins. Edit -- Nevermind. Just watched a clip and he is all power. Nothing special. Just named them, which is why I knew his name and connected it to dunking.

Dro
07-10-2013, 10:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNyJKLsRvG0



Here's one of those Cleveland mixes. Look at those dunks he does in traffic. The lil windmill in traffic. This guy used to perform aerial assaults in Cleveland. It's crazy how people undermine this guy
LoL, are you guys serious with this? Like 80% of those dunks are the same one handed finish off one leg that he always does and there are NO posters in that mix...NONE...The best dunk was the one against ATL in which he barely made the dunk although it was still very nice and difficult and he did jump off the wrong leg. He caught a couple of alley oops, there's a few basic 2 handed finishes and thats it. Are we really comparing this the stuff that Kobe, J Rich, MJ, Dr. and Vince? Really?

Dro
07-10-2013, 10:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgL50wYF7X4


thus another dunk that was crazy :eek:





It's crazy how you have to really search to find these dunks. I seriously hope this man's leaping/dunking ability does not get criminally overlooked in the future
Its not THAT crazy bro, you're really overrated his dunks. Yes thats a nice dunk but he's done that dunk a few times and thats basically his most creative type of in-game dunk when he double pumps it.

vinsanity2756
07-10-2013, 10:31 AM
:facepalm at people saying Carter>>>>LeBron

I really suggest you look at a youtube video titled vince carter top 100 dunks. I haven't even seen lebron do a basic 360. Him and t-mac in those toronto raptor days, amazing entertainment.

Dro
07-10-2013, 10:39 AM
I really suggest you look at a youtube video titled vince carter top 100 dunks. I haven't even seen lebron do a basic 360. Him and t-mac in those toronto raptor days, amazing entertainment.
He's just trolling bro, he's not serious.

Just2McFly
07-10-2013, 10:48 AM
:facepalm at people saying Carter>>>>LeBron
ban worthy shit right here

uber
07-10-2013, 11:07 AM
1. LeBron James
2. Blake Griffin
3. Vince Carter
4. Jason Richardson
5. Shawn Kemp



Honarable mention: Dominique Wilkins, Desmond Mason, Jerald Green, Kobe Bryant.

We can all agree with this.

So your Official Top 5 Dunkers All-Time List has Lebron @ #1 and no Dr. J?

Are you somehow retarded?

memetherapy
07-10-2013, 11:11 AM
[QUOTE=ThaRegul8r]The bolded portion is the only thing relevant to what I actually said in my post, and you ignored the question that was specifically asked at the end.

Ultimately

Stringer Bell
12-23-2013, 10:36 PM
1) Vince Carter
2) Dominique Wilkins
3) Michael Jordan

Not sure about 4 and 5. Shawn Kemp is up there. I grew up a big Dr. J fan, his dunk on Michael Cooper is one of my favorites ever. Loved his dunks in the 1977 Finals, especially the one over Walton. Not sure if he cracks top 5 though.

Black and White
12-23-2013, 10:39 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: at OPs list

Legends66NBA7
12-23-2013, 10:51 PM
:oldlol: @ OP and some of the people suggesting James, Griffin, or anybody else over Carter.

Good laugh, fellas.

Derka
12-23-2013, 11:07 PM
I give it a 4/10 on the Troll Scale. People will take this serious :lol

Go Getter
12-23-2013, 11:49 PM
1. LeBron James
2. Blake Griffin
3. Vince Carter
4. Jason Richardson
5. Shawn Kemp



Honarable mention: Dominique Wilkins, Desmond Mason, Jerald Green, Kobe Bryant.

We can all agree with this.

NO ORDER:

Darryl Dawkins
Shaw Kemp
Dominique Wilkins
Vince Carter
Blake Griffin

CavaliersFTW
12-23-2013, 11:51 PM
Any list that doesn't include Dr. J is made by a dumbass