Dropping Out of College?

[Heilige]

I am thinking about dropping out of college to pursue my goal of getting into the entertainment industry. (acting/singing)


Do you think I should go for it or would it be a bad move to make? I am 27 years old and live with my mom and am unemployed and have lived a pretty sheltered life. I would be finished with college in about 2 years and am getting a degree in Business Management. I would be 29-30 years old before graduating from college if I continued and stayed in college. At the same time, I feel time might be running out for me. Do most people make it in Hollywood/music at 30+ years old? I have no training/experience at all in either acting/music but I at least want to try. If I don't I feel I will always regret it. At the same time if I try and don't make it and don't end up succeeding at it, I feel I will be angry about it and never let go of the pain of not being a success in it.


What should I do?


Anybody here working/trying to get in the entertainment industry and have any advice?

[tmacattack33]

Stay in college.

Just do your entertainment/singing sh*t on the side. Is that really a full time job anyway until you actually get signed somewhere or whatever? I doubt it.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Not sure if serious. :confusedshrug:

Stay in school. In your spare time feel free to pursue whatever.

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[boozehound]

its fine to drop out, but find a more appropriate industry with actual achievable goals.

Do you currently sing in a band? Participate in community or regional theaters? You probably are not as good as you think you are.

I cannot believe you are 27 and think this is a realistic life goal. What did you do with the nearly decade since highschool?

[senelcoolidge]

Stay in school. If you were dropping out and pursuing a trade rather than a college degree than I wouldn't feel as bad. But singing and acting..do that on the side. That's not guaranteed.

[ace23]

drop out yolo

[Swaggin916]

I would stay in school and do it on the side as well... There are classes you can take and things you can do to see if you are ready to make the jump into acting. If you aren't a very motivated person, chances are good that you could drop out, pursue this career, and get absolutely nowhere. Know thyself. If you aren't motivated, stick with safe route and then just add stuff on top of it. If it's something you really want, you will do it despite all the hours you have to put into other things.

[Heilige]

its fine to drop out, but find a more appropriate industry with actual achievable goals.

Do you currently sing in a band? Participate in community or regional theaters? You probably are not as good as you think you are.

I cannot believe you are 27 and think this is a realistic life goal. What did you do with the nearly decade since highschool?


I don't sing in a band and have no theater experience.


I have been floundering around since high school.


Even though I have no experience, do you feel it is something I should try?

[boozehound]

I don't sing in a band and have no theater experience.


I have been floundering around since high school.


Even though I have no experience, do you feel it is something I should try?
I would suggest you either take theater or performance classes in college or get involved with local theater. You are evaluating yourself in a bubble. Go out and see if you are any better than a random theater student at your school or somebody in the local community by direct competition for parts, etc.

Chances are you arent good enough. If you really want to be in the industry, get a degree in the theater arts (or experience) and try and be a grip or other behind the scenes role. Even those jobs are hard to get.

College may not be for you, but you need to have a more realistic aspiration.

[Heilige]

I would suggest you either take theater or performance classes in college or get involved with local theater. You are evaluating yourself in a bubble. Go out and see if you are any better than a random theater student at your school or somebody in the local community by direct competition for parts, etc.

Chances are you arent good enough. If you really want to be in the industry, get a degree in the theater arts (or experience) and try and be a grip or other behind the scenes role. Even those jobs are hard to get.

College may not be for you, but you need to have a more realistic aspiration.


Thanks man.

[Heilige]

I would suggest you either take theater or performance classes in college or get involved with local theater. You are evaluating yourself in a bubble. Go out and see if you are any better than a random theater student at your school or somebody in the local community by direct competition for parts, etc.

Chances are you arent good enough. If you really want to be in the industry, get a degree in the theater arts (or experience) and try and be a grip or other behind the scenes role. Even those jobs are hard to get.

College may not be for you, but you need to have a more realistic aspiration.


All that makes sense, thanks. About singing, how should I go about that?

[nathanjizzle]

finish your degree in business. once you get the degree then you can experiment with the real world, if you fail, you know you have a degree to manage a mcdonalds for 20 dollars an hour.

[enayes]

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[flipogb]

just go part-time or online and keep it going

[Heilige]

Join the Army...

You are probably not good enough to enter the entertainment industry... think you will be competing against people who are younger, and have the talent/looks.. think Justin Bieber and yes looks is a talent.

You say by the time you finish College you will be 29... nobody will hire you at that age with zero working experience... ive heard of people who by the time they are 30 have 15 years of experience in their field, you are competing against those people.


Appreciate your viewpoint.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

time is not running out for you, and youre still young. if u feel like college aint doin it for u and u want to pursue other goals, then do what u feel.

u need some punani. but i hope u trying to enter the biz is a way for u to snatch up some b!tches. do it for the love, not about losing your virginity

[Randy]

I am thinking about dropping out of college to pursue my goal of getting into the entertainment industry. (acting/singing)

You and 20 million other people.


Do you think I should go for it or would it be a bad move to make? I am 27 years old and live with my mom and am unemployed and have lived a pretty sheltered life. I would be finished with college in about 2 years and am getting a degree in Business Management. I would be 29-30 years old before graduating from college if I continued and stayed in college. At the same time, I feel time might be running out for me. Do most people make it in Hollywood/music at 30+ years old? I have no training/experience at all in either acting/music but I at least want to try. If I don't I feel I will always regret it. At the same time if I try and don't make it and don't end up succeeding at it, I feel I will be angry about it and never let go of the pain of not being a success in it.

Bro, I'm gonna be brutally honest with you: You're a ****ing loser.

That's harsh, and I don't like being so rude about it, but wake the hell up. Are you going to remain unemployed living with mom until 30? You don't get paid to audition or sing open mic at bars. Lessons and classes are expensive, and having zero training you are more than likely going to be TERRIBLE for quite some time and continuous classes will run you into the thousands. Who's going to pay for that? Maybe you have some coin saved up, but it sure doesn't sound like it from your OP.

A sheltered, unemployed, 27 year old who lives at home doesn't sound like someone who can waltz into an audition (which are terrifying by the way, even for the experienced) and nail it in front of five condescending producers. Come on man. Do you have any idea how competitive and cut-throat the entertainment industry is? For every success, there are MILLIONS who spend their entire lives waiting for that break; many of them much more talented than you probably are. You come off as very lazy and unmotivated in the OP, and dropping out of school is somehow going to motivate you to practice and audition EVERY SINGLE DAY despite constant rejections? Don't see it. At least not yet. Work on yourself first, man.


What should I do?

That is for you to decide, no one else. If you were my friend and asking my advice, I would say everything that I wrote up there, then tell you to get the hell out of mommy's house! At the least, get a part-time job and start some lessons. You've never acted before, you may not even like it.

You have no idea what to do with your life, I get it. I'm 27 too and know what it feels like facing a very, very unknown and often scary future. There is not a whole lot out there for our generation right now, but there is certainly more opportunity with a degree than without. Find a way to bring some balance and passion into your life: Stay in school, read self-development material, get a job, take classes, lift weights, and move out if possible. It'll be good for mind, body, and soul. Plus, the ladies like a well rounded and interesting man, and currently, you don't seem to be that.

Sorry for being a dick.

[LilKateMoss]

Heilige are you still as fat as you used to be?

[Heilige]

Heilige are you still as fat as you used to be?


I am 245 lbs at the moment. I used to weigh 275 lbs.



Randy, no offense taken man. I appreciate your points, it seemed very genuine what you said. I do feel like a loser most of the time considering my life up to this point.

[Hoodlum Science]

I am thinking about dropping out of college to pursue my goal of getting into the entertainment industry. (acting/singing)


Do you think I should go for it or would it be a bad move to make? I am 27 years old and live with my mom and am unemployed and have lived a pretty sheltered life. I would be finished with college in about 2 years and am getting a degree in Business Management. I would be 29-30 years old before graduating from college if I continued and stayed in college. At the same time, I feel time might be running out for me. Do most people make it in Hollywood/music at 30+ years old? I have no training/experience at all in either acting/music but I at least want to try. If I don't I feel I will always regret it. At the same time if I try and don't make it and don't end up succeeding at it, I feel I will be angry about it and never let go of the pain of not being a success in it.


What should I do?


Anybody here working/trying to get in the entertainment industry and have any advice?

You're one of the greatest trolls in message board history (and if that's you, mega fist pounds in your direction because you perfectly pull off legitimacy and sincerity in your posts - all the PMs you've sent me, as well as countless others, etc).

If forever ago and since the beginning it's all been 100% you and honestly looking for honest help with your threads/PMs such as this one going back many years, then I honestly do apologize and would like to share perhaps some RL worthwhile advice. (LOL, but I'm not buying it; I'm with RBA on this one - he was the one who originally called you out several years ago)

It's going to be difficult to make it in the entertainment industry, but certainly not impossible. Playing it by the numbers, you'd be much better off finishing your education. Finish your education, then take a couple of years off, and during those years, strongly pursue your Hollywood dream. See what happens, and if things don't work out for you, all good, you have your higher education to fall back on.

The last thing you want to do is pull some LD shit sucking endless weiner in hopes of being the "next big thing" ... when the only "next big thing" is being DP'd (booty + mouf in LD's case) by such mammoth ... instruments. What I'm saying is, you'd be much better off living in the REAL WORLD *COUGH COUGH* and not LIVING THE DREAM *COUGH COUGH* where you're nothing more than one of the millions of others chasing such bullshit. If said individual had actual talent, star-power, magic-eye or whatever the hell you're supposed to have to "make it" in that field of work, then OK, but no offense dude, I don't see you having anything that would surpass LD, and that should set off alarms in your mental that Hollywood bound is a NO NO NO! Let the failure of others fuel the success beast within you.

Finish university (I'm assuming that's where you are, since you're already in college and said two more years to finish?), and do something practical plus productive with your life. LOL, but for real dude, I think you're just one of the best gimmicks in message board history, much less ISH. If that's you man, mad respect.

:oldlol:

[Randy]

I am 245 lbs at the moment. I used to weigh 275 lbs.

My man. Keep doing it! The small victories build momentum for larger ones.


Randy, no offense taken man. I appreciate your points, it seemed very genuine what you said. I do feel like a loser most of the time considering my life up to this point.

Make a vow to yourself, right now, that this negative self talk you're involved in ends. RIGHT NOW. Start seeing yourself in a more positive light. I know my post didn't help that at all, but use it as a wake up call!

Sit down with a pen and paper and have a real conversation with yourself. What are you good at? Where do you want to go? What kinds of people do you want to be around? Etc, etc, etc. Know where you want to go, and start making small daily strides towards becoming that person. To be honest, acting probably is not your calling, but perhaps I'm wrong. Only YOU know that, so you better sit down and figure out what the hell you're going to do with your life. You're 27, there is no more "when I grow up", you are grown up and it's time to take charge. You're not gonna know all the answers and your self-doubt habit is going to immediately kick in, but KEEP GOING.

You better not ****ing let me down :coleman:

[Heilige]

My man. Keep doing it! The small victories build momentum for larger ones.



Make a vow to yourself, right now, that this negative self talk you're involved in ends. RIGHT NOW. Start seeing yourself in a more positive light. I know my post didn't help that at all, but use it as a wake up call!

Sit down with a pen and paper and have a real conversation with yourself. What are you good at? Where do you want to go? What kinds of people do you want to be around? Etc, etc, etc. Know where you want to go, and start making small daily strides towards becoming that person. To be honest, acting probably is not your calling, but perhaps I'm wrong. Only YOU know that, so you better sit down and figure out what the hell you're going to do with your life. You're 27, there is "when I grow up", you are grown up and it's time to take charge. You're not gonna know all the answers and your self-doubt habit is going to immediately kick in, but KEEP GOING.

You better not ****ing let me down :coleman:



Thanks man, I appreciate it. How often are you on these boards? I can PM you in the future if you like to update how I am progressing.

[ace23]

Use the internet to get famous if you're doing music. That's the easiest way to go about things. Spam your shit enough places and eventually someone important will see it. Network with other artists, and you'll be on in no time.

That's what I've done. I've developed a following, but I don't have the means to record anything high quality at the moment so I don't want to put anything new out. When I do, it'll be epic tho

[Hoodlum Science]

Use the internet to get famous if you're doing music. That's the easiest way to go about things. Spam your shit enough places and eventually someone important will see it. Network with other artists, and you'll be on in no time.

Tru dat, tru dat. Tell us, how's that high school drop out turned rapper route working out?

:oldlol:

I'm just kiddin' man. Honestly, I haven't heard enough of your flow to really give an opinion ... but the beats I've heard that you've made from scratch on your own, I was noddin' my head to that shit. Especially that one that sounded like some old school Super Nintendo role playing game Final Fantasy or Zelda type shit. Maybe not fire, but dope. Dope nonetheless.

[L.Kizzle]

do you write your own tunes, either lyrics/notes are both?
Can you play an instrument(s)?
Can you produce a music track?

[ace23]

do you write your own tunes, either lyrics/notes are both?
Can you play an instrument(s)?
Can you produce a music track?
You can't do any of this tho

Tru dat, tru dat. Tell us, how's that high school drop out turned rapper route working out?

:oldlol:

I'm just kiddin' man. Honestly, I haven't heard enough of your flow to really give an opinion ... but the beats I've heard that you've made from scratch on your own, I was noddin' my head to that shit. Especially that one that sounded like some old school Super Nintendo role playing game Final Fantasy or Zelda type shit. Maybe not fire, but dope. Dope nonetheless.
love, LOJ :cheers:

[Heilige]

You're one of the greatest trolls in message board history (and if that's you, mega fist pounds in your direction because you perfectly pull off legitimacy and sincerity in your posts - all the PMs you've sent me, as well as countless others, etc).

If forever ago and since the beginning it's all been 100% you and honestly looking for honest help with your threads/PMs such as this one going back many years, then I honestly do apologize and would like to share perhaps some RL worthwhile advice. (LOL, but I'm not buying it; I'm with RBA on this one - he was the one who originally called you out several years ago)



I am not a troll man. You either believe me or you don't. I am looking for advice that is why I made this thread. If you think I am a troll, please don't post in my thread since you don't believe me anyway.





It's going to be difficult to make it in the entertainment industry, but certainly not impossible. Playing it by the numbers, you'd be much better off finishing your education. Finish your education, then take a couple of years off, and during those years, strongly pursue your Hollywood dream. See what happens, and if things don't work out for you, all good, you have your higher education to fall back on.



Yeah, I am going to finish college up. Who knows what will happen two years from now. I still need to work on myself first and foremost. If two years later I am still interested in the entertainment industry, I will pursue it. If I fail, at least I will have something to fall back on.




The last thing you want to do is pull some LD shit sucking endless weiner in hopes of being the "next big thing" ... when the only "next big thing" is being DP'd (booty + mouf in LD's case) by such mammoth ... instruments. What I'm saying is, you'd be much better off living in the REAL WORLD *COUGH COUGH* and not LIVING THE DREAM *COUGH COUGH* where you're nothing more than one of the millions of others chasing such bullshit. If said individual had actual talent, star-power, magic-eye or whatever the hell you're supposed to have to "make it" in that field of work, then OK, but no offense dude, I don't see you having anything that would surpass LD, and that should set off alarms in your mental that Hollywood bound is a NO NO NO! Let the failure of others fuel the success beast within you.


Who is LD?




Finish university (I'm assuming that's where you are, since you're already in college and said two more years to finish?), and do something practical plus productive with your life. LOL, but for real dude, I think you're just one of the best gimmicks in message board history, much less ISH. If that's you man, mad respect.

:oldlol:



Like I said earlier, I am not a troll.

[L.Kizzle]

You can't do any of this tho
:biggums:

[ace23]

Can you show us something you've done? Singing, acting, whatever


:biggums:

...

[Heilige]

do you write your own tunes, either lyrics/notes are both?
Can you play an instrument(s)?
Can you produce a music track?



No to all of the above.

After going through this thread, I am starting to realize how delusional I might have been regarding this. At 27, starting from absolute scratch.

[ace23]

No to all of the above.
:biggums: What drew you to the entertainment business? What makes you think you can do it?

[eriX]

You know there is a reason the voice, xfactor and idols exists... even the got talent shows...

[L.Kizzle]

No to all of the above.

After going through this thread, I am starting to realize how delusional I might have been regarding this. At 27, starting from absolute scratch.
If you sing or want to be a singer, you should be able to at least write a song? Do you just sing cover tunes? It's good to start of that way, but sooner or latter you are gonna want to try something yourself, right?

Same with playing. Most players start out with cover tunes but eventually they begin to pluck, strum, bang, some notes of there on and before you know it, you got a Melodie you created all on your own.

[Jameerthefear]

Why did LOJ switch accounts.
Also, I wish you the best of luck op :cheers:

[Hoodlum Science]

Why did LOJ switch accounts.
Also, I wish you the best of luck op :cheers:

The Legend of Josh account was perma-banned. Bunch of crybaby ninjas.

[Jameerthefear]

The Legend of Josh account was perma-banned. Bunch of crybaby ninjas.
What reason?

[unbreakable]

i dropped out of college for 2 yrs to do the same thing... went back and finished my 1st degree thank goodness because the music didnt work out.

finish school. if youre good enough to make it big while in school, youll get noticed eventually. otherwise you definitely want a back up plan. finish school as fast as you can.. take summer classes if you have to if youre very serious about pursuing your goals. good luck. :cheers:

[Heilige]

:biggums: What drew you to the entertainment business? What makes you think you can do it?


What drew me to the business was seeing how actors and musicians can elicit great emotions from people that watch them perform their craft; those that are the best in both fields (acting/musicianship/singing). That is what really drew me in. I want to be able to perform to the degree where I can touch people that way from an emotional standpoint the way the greats do. There are songs that have made me cry and breakdown and there have been scenes that actors have performed that have made me do the same. I have always been fascinated and inspired by people that can perform so well they get those types of responses from people. The entertainment business gives someone the largest platform from which to do that I feel.

[Heilige]

If you sing or want to be a singer, you should be able to at least write a song? Do you just sing cover tunes? It's good to start of that way, but sooner or latter you are gonna want to try something yourself, right?

Same with playing. Most players start out with cover tunes but eventually they begin to pluck, strum, bang, some notes of there on and before you know it, you got a Melodie you created all on your own.


I haven't written a song before and never really sang at all. It is still something I want to try at least.

How can I go from where I am at to at least being able to write my own song?

[intrinsic]

I haven't written a song before and never really sang at all. It is still something I want to try at least.

How can I go from where I am at to at least being able to write my own song?
Meet people. Talk to them. Develop your interests.

[L.Kizzle]

I haven't written a song before and never really sang at all. It is still something I want to try at least.

How can I go from where I am at to at least being able to write my own song?
You got a pen, you got some paper ... start writing.

[Heilige]

You got a pen, you got some paper ... start writing.


How do you become a good writer when it comes to writing songs?

[eriX]

You got a pen, you got some paper ... start writing.

i assume he wants to do more than just writing lyrics... do you know how to play any instruments? If not buy a cheap guitar and learn it. If you have no musical knowledge at all, it would take at least 3 - 4 months before becoming familiar with reading/playing a guitar.

And honestly writing music is something you have to be talented in, just like how some are meant for sports, some are made for music. Same with singing, everyone can sing if you hit the right notes, but not everyone have that quality to their voice or power to become a great singer.

[L.Kizzle]

How do you become a good writer when it comes to writing songs?
When Berry Gordy first met Smokey Robinson in 1957, Berry Gordy was then known as a hit songwriter this was pre-Motown, he had written Jackie Wilson's first few hits. Smokey had a book of songs, hundreds and gave it to Berry and told Berry to get back in touch with him. He hated every song but one, he said they were all terrible except this one. That one told a story and his other songs were all over the place. What Gordy did like was his love for songwriting. To write hundreds of songs, you have to love the art. He worked with Smokey on his songwriting approach, started Motown (or Tamla at that time) with Smokey about a year and a half later.

The Miracles: A Fork In The Road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx2XjXCZRJ0)

[DukeDelonte13]

I am thinking about dropping out of college to pursue my goal of getting into the entertainment industry. (acting/singing)


Do you think I should go for it or would it be a bad move to make? I am 27 years old and live with my mom and am unemployed and have lived a pretty sheltered life. I would be finished with college in about 2 years and am getting a degree in Business Management. I would be 29-30 years old before graduating from college if I continued and stayed in college. At the same time, I feel time might be running out for me. Do most people make it in Hollywood/music at 30+ years old? I have no training/experience at all in either acting/music but I at least want to try. If I don't I feel I will always regret it. At the same time if I try and don't make it and don't end up succeeding at it, I feel I will be angry about it and never let go of the pain of not being a success in it.



What should I do?


Anybody here working/trying to get in the entertainment industry and have any advice?


Get on with your life and work. Get a damn job. The problem with this generation is everybody wants a dream job. Everybody wants to have a job they love. 99% of the people in the world hate their jobs. Sometimes you just gotta be a man and work for a living.

[Heilige]

When Berry Gordy first met Smokey Robinson in 1957, Berry Gordy was then known as a hit songwriter this was pre-Motown, he had written Jackie Wilson's first few hits. Smokey had a book of songs, hundreds and gave it to Berry and told Berry to get back in touch with him. He hated every song but one, he said they were all terrible except this one. That one told a story and his other songs were all over the place. What Gordy did like was his love for songwriting. To write hundreds of songs, you have to love the art. He worked with Smokey on his songwriting approach, started Motown (or Tamla at that time) with Smokey about a year and a half later.

The Miracles: A Fork In The Road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx2XjXCZRJ0)


:cheers:


Gotta hand it to you, I feel you really know your shit when it comes to music!


I was wondering what type of career do you have? Also, sort of off topic, but what do you think about Frank Sinatra as a singer, performer, etc?

[CeltsGarlic]

I thought dude wants to be an actor, why the fvck you all give him music related stuff?

edit: checked the OP/ my bad. No way youre making in music with nothing.

[Heilige]

I thought dude wants to be an actor, why the fvck you all give him music related stuff?


I said acting and singing from my op.

[ace23]

I was wondering what type of career do you have?
lol this should be good.

[L.Kizzle]

:cheers:


Gotta hand it to you, I feel you really know your shit when it comes to music!


I was wondering what type of career do you have? Also, sort of off topic, but what do you think about Frank Sinatra as a singer, performer, etc?
I'm still taking classes right now (see don't drop out.) I work for a judge. Career goal is similar to yours, to be in the music industry. I write, produce, play and am currently in the process of stating a publishing company.


Frank Sinatra is a great singer, has a great voice though I don't really get into his music.


#ace23

[Heilige]

I'm still taking classes right now (see don't drop out.) I work for a judge. Career goal is similar to yours, to be in the music industry. I write, produce, play and am currently in the process of stating a publishing company.


Frank Sinatra is a great singer, has a great voice though I don't really get into his music.


#ace23


That's awesome. Good luck man!


Maybe we can work together on something if I ever get good/it becomes something I am passionate about? What do you think?

[ace23]

That's awesome. Good luck man!


Maybe we can work together on something if I ever get good/it becomes something I am passionate about? What do you think?
Go start taking piano lessons now.

[Heilige]

Go start taking piano lessons now.


Gonna need a part time job while I finish college. I am unemployed right now and have no money.


Are piano lessons expensive? Gonna need piano and singing lessons. Randy said singing lessons are expensive can run in the thousands annually.



Regarding acting, my school has a theater/drama department and they put on plays every semester. Gonna check that out and see where that takes me this coming fall semester.

[L.Kizzle]

Go start taking piano lessons now.
Really you don't need piano lessons (as a beginner.) If you're just starting, you really just need to know a few chords. If you can work your way around those handful of chords you'll be good for now.

[ace23]

Never taken private lessons but I've taken a couple piano classes where I've learned how to play. Can't really play well, I just apply the music theory I've learned in making beats since I just rap.

Singing lessons seem kind of pointless to me, but idk.

[L.Kizzle]

Never taken private lessons but I've taken a couple piano classes where I've learned how to play. Can't really play well, I just apply the music theory I've learned in making beats since I just rap.

Singing lessons seem kind of pointless to me, but idk.
Singing lessons are very important, more so than piano/instrument lessons.

Like you, never had personnel lessons, but learned in courses I've taken during school. I took a music business class, record company class, songwriting class, music theory class, a orchestra class and music production courses.

[intrinsic]

Meet people. Talk to them. Develop your interests.

I've changed my mind after reading this:


That's awesome. Good luck man!


Maybe we can work together on something if I ever get good/it becomes something I am passionate about? What do you think?

If you don't take yourself seriously, neither will anyone else. Shelve the pipe dreams about what it's going to be like when you make it.

You may not have money, but you have both time and opportunity.

[Heilige]

I've changed my mind after reading this:



If you don't take yourself seriously, neither will anyone else. Shelve the pipe dreams about what it's going to be like when you make it.

You may not have money, but you have both time and opportunity.


I am confused by your post. What did I say that makes you think I am not taking myself seriously?

[mlh1981]

Good luck man. I can somewhat relate to your situation. Though I don't live at home and have had career work, I'm at the point in my life where I'm at a crossroads and need to make some big decisions. That's one of the things about being an adult that you notice, is that the ramifications for your choices get larger at time goes on.

[intrinsic]

I am confused by your post. What did I say that makes you think I am not taking myself seriously?

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Thanks man, I appreciate it. How often are you on these boards? I can PM you in the future if you like to update how I am progressing.

You're a grown man -- 27 years old. No one is going to show more than a passing interest in your life. That's reality. From my limited perspective, this whole thread reads like a device you're using to feel like people care about you.

Randy also brought up something very important . Attitude. A good first step would be to honestly ask why you have such a low opinion of yourself.

[Heilige]

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You're a grown man -- 27 years old. No one is going to show more than a passing interest in your life. That's reality. From my limited perspective, this whole thread reads like a device you're using to feel like people care about you.

Randy also brought up something very important . Attitude. A good first step would be to honestly ask why you have such a low opinion of yourself.


I have a low opinion of myself because I am 27 and haven't really accomplished anything of significance of my life. I am obese but am working on it. I am a virgin and have never been in a relationship. I have high social anxiety and timidity issues. I am broke and unemployed. I am getting a degree in Business Management and heard that is a very oversaturated degree so if I don't make it in the entertainment industry, I will have a crappy degree to fall back on. For the most part, these are the reasons I have a low opinion of myself. Randy said it himself, I am a loser for the most part. At the same time, I know wallowing in self-pity isn't going to change my situation and most of my problems can be fixed if I work hard enough.

[ace23]

I have a low opinion of myself because I am 27 and haven't really accomplished anything of significance of my life. I am obese but am working on it. I am a virgin and have never been in a relationship. I have high social anxiety and timidity issues. I am broke and unemployed. I am getting a degree in Business Management and heard that is a very oversaturated degree so if I don't make it in the entertainment industry, I will have a crappy degree to fall back on. For the most part, these are the reasons I have a low opinion of myself. Randy said it himself, I am a loser for the most part. At the same time, I know wallowing in self-pity isn't going to change my situation and most of my problems can be fixed if I work hard enough.
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[DeuceWallaces]

I am not opposed to dropping out, I did it myself for two years, but you are really lost and this won't help you.

[intrinsic]

I have a low opinion of myself because I am 27 and haven't really accomplished anything of significance of my life. I am obese but am working on it. I am a virgin and have never been in a relationship. I have high social anxiety and timidity issues. I am broke and unemployed. I am getting a degree in Business Management and heard that is a very oversaturated degree so if I don't make it in the entertainment industry, I will have a crappy degree to fall back on. For the most part, these are the reasons I have a low opinion of myself. Randy said it himself, I am a loser for the most part. At the same time, I know wallowing in self-pity isn't going to change my situation and most of my problems can be fixed if I work hard enough.

It's safe to say everyone in this thread has been called a loser by someone on the internet.

You're focused on failure, but you have to prepare a soft landing. (Example: broke and unemployed with high social anxiety.) You're broke and unemployed because it was easier to quit on yourself using high anxiety for an excuse.

[mlh1981]

While trying to keep an eye on the long term, also try to control the next 5 minutes. Dwelling on everything all at once, past/present/future won't get you anywhere. Try to break up your day into small segments, savor the small victories, and honestly, it sounds like you have a good thing going with the weight loss, so keep it up. Little successes will make you feel better about yourself, and lead to bigger things.

[Bugz]

All I'm gonna say is this: The people that are really successful are the ones that don't let others tell em what they can or can't achieve.

It's all up to you man. If you want it, believe in yourself, and work extra hard, you can make it.

[Bugz]

I have a low opinion of myself because I am 27 and haven't really accomplished anything of significance of my life. I am obese but am working on it. I am a virgin and have never been in a relationship. I have high social anxiety and timidity issues. I am broke and unemployed. I am getting a degree in Business Management and heard that is a very oversaturated degree so if I don't make it in the entertainment industry, I will have a crappy degree to fall back on. For the most part, these are the reasons I have a low opinion of myself. Randy said it himself, I am a loser for the most part. At the same time, I know wallowing in self-pity isn't going to change my situation and most of my problems can be fixed if I work hard enough.

You have the right mentality. Keep at it.

[Boris Pen]

Update on Heilige Hitler?

[Gougou]

yeah man just drop out, too many people doing business management anyways.

[Jasper]

we need more drop outs to compete with the college degree kids that work at Arbi's and Mac's making republican minimum wage of under $10 ======
GOOD MOVE

[Axe]

Why would you drop out when you can now pass in your online classes nowadays as long as you're present?

[GOBB]

Finish school = increase your debt in student loan = yikes.

Take a leap of faith and follow what you want to do. It’s that simple. You situation reads like a troll post though.