BREAKING: Mavericks close to signing Monta Ellis; 3 years, up to $30 million

[bagelred]

Sam Amick ‏@sam_amick 54m

Can confirm @ESPNSteinLine intel that Monta Ellis is finalizing a three-year deal with Dallas. On financials, I'm told in $28 mil range.

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS 1h

League source confirms the Mavs have reached a three-year agreement with free-agent guard Monta Ellis.

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 3m

Monta Ellis and Mavericks closing in on a three-year deal that could rise to as much as $30 million. Deal on course to be completed today

Why Cuban why....

[Peteballa]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[qrich]

Monta + Dirk :bowdown:

[rwfletch22]

:lol

[Twiens]

That's not a bad deal at all..

[bagelred]

That's not a bad deal at all..
:roll:

[Big Cheese]

THANK YOU CUBAN :bowdown:

[Levity]

not the worst deal in the world. is the last year guaranteed or a player or team option?

Calderon
Ellis
Marion
Dirk
whos their starting center again? possibly oden?

[KG215]

When all else fails, tie-up $10M/yr over the next 3 years in Monta Ellis.

[bagelred]

not the worst deal in the world. is the last year guaranteed or a player or team option?

Calderon
Ellis
Marion
Dirk
whos their starting center again? possibly oden?

Probably Dalembert

The "t" is silent. :pimp:

[longtime lurker]

Calderon and Ellis in the back court = :yaohappy:

[Anticlus]

Would be better if they got Howard too.

[no pun intended]

I keep forgetting that he's only 27...

[STATUTORY]

:roll: this is what happens when plans fall apart

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Good for Cuban to finally land a somewhat big name FA this off-season.

Great for Kings for avoiding Monta Ellis.

[2013 Lakers]

Finally they might get someone :lol

http://i.imgur.com/BNBjRXV.jpg

[D-Rose]

No no no no nooooooooooo!!!!

At least it'll be entertaining I guess.

What was the point of signing all these guards? Mekel, Calderon, Harris, Ellington, Monta. WTF? Not to mention Larkin and Ledo drafted.

That's good depth but not if you don't have any damn frontcourt players...

[hawkfan]

Ellis was offered 3 years, 36 million and now he got 3 year, 30 million.

Oops.

But he has a chance to win.
Maybe playing with Dirk will get him to adjust his game. People thought Crawford was a selfish gunner; came to the Hawks and he adjusted his game and became a top sixth man in the league.

[Optimus Prime]

Poor Dirk. Such a great players last years totally wasted. :(

Dirk for Hill/Blake. Do it before Dirk does something drastic to end his suffering. :(

:kobe:

[hawkfan]

Danny Ferry strikes out again.
Maybe he's going to match Teague.
Or make a trade.

[longtime lurker]

Poor Dirk. Such a great players last years totally wasted. :(

Dirk for Hill/Blake. Do it before Dirk does something drastic to end his suffering. :(

:kobe:

Dirk will join the Lakers and play with his boy hood idol Kobe next season.

[Nastradamus]

Wow this is awful. A backcourt of Elliss,Harris,Larkin,Calderon? You let Mayo, a better fit walk for 8 mil per and then signed the terrible Elliss? Wow!

Not to mention Elliss lose money by not taking the Bucks deal. Its not as bad as AK, but its not good either.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

It is called asset collection. Cubes didn't do that after 2011.... now they can trade Marion for something else.

And the Mavs should have 14 million to spend next year.....

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

No no no no nooooooooooo!!!!

At least it'll be entertaining I guess.

What was the point of signing all these guards? Mekel, Calderon, Harris, Ellington, Monta. WTF? Not to mention Larkin and Ledo drafted.

That's good depth but not if you don't have any damn frontcourt players...
PG - Calderon starts. Harris main back up. Mekel gets scrub mins. Larkin assigned to D-League

SG - Monta starts. Ellington main backup/maybe plays SF in small line-ups if VC is too old and tired to play. Ledo gets scrub mins/assigned to D-League.

Only thing I can guess. :confusedshrug:

But yeah, still need a big or 2...

[hawkfan]

not the worst deal in the world. is the last year guaranteed or a player or team option?

Calderon
Ellis
Marion
Dirk
whos their starting center again? possibly oden?

They're going after Dalembert.

[Rubio2Gasol]

That's a decent deal.

[D-Rose]

Wow this is awful. A backcourt of Elliss,Harris,Larkin,Calderon? You let Mayo, a better fit walk for 8 mil per and then signed the terrible Elliss? Wow!

Not to mention Elliss lose money by not taking the Bucks deal. Its not as bad as AK, but its not good either.
What the hell? give me Monta over Mayo anyday. Far better player.

And I wouldn't mind a Marion + Larkin trade of sorts for a center.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Lots of rumblings that it is a sign and trade involving several mavs + bucks.

[D-Rose]

Lots of rumblings that it is a sign and trade involving several mavs + bucks.
Oh okay...hmmm

WE WANT GUSTAVO AYOOOOOOON

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Lots of rumblings that it is a sign and trade involving several mavs + bucks.
well, Bucks DO got excess bigs. Not sure what Mavs can give up that Bucks want/need...

[ispin69]

Da bes backcourt in da NBA + DIRK :banana: :applause:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdj12LbKj84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6JbB5mgNno

All they need is one scrub center.

[No Evans!]

Monta Ellis have it all or as much as he could buy with $30 million

[D-Rose]

well, Bucks DO got excess bigs. Not sure what Mavs can give up that Bucks want/need...
where did you hear that rumor Locked Up?

And yeah Milwaukee's frontcourt is loaded. Perhaps they'd take Marion and a young guy or a future 2nd.

[Optimus Prime]

Dirk will join the Lakers and play with his boy hood idol Kobe next season.

Dirk is the same age as Kobe.:oldlol:

Don't forget also that Dirk and Nash are BFFs. :kobe:

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

where did you hear that rumor Locked Up?

And yeah Milwaukee's frontcourt is loaded. Perhaps they'd take Marion and a young guy or a future 2nd.
I'm curious where he heard it too ahha.

If memory serves me right, I've read Bucks fans calling for Udoh to either play or get traded so he can play somewhere else. Perhaps Ellis + Udoh + Gooden for Marion + 1st rnd pick?

Mavs then sign Dalembert. Got big corps of Dirk, Dalembert, Udoh, Gooden, Wright, B. James. I doubt Gooden gets mins, but seems solid enough to defend and get some boards around Dirk.

[Bandito]

So after everything after 2011 this is what he came up with? Great signing Cuban!! I hope Dirk leaves...

[Nastradamus]

What the hell? give me Monta over Mayo anyday. Far better player.

And I wouldn't mind a Marion + Larkin trade of sorts for a center.

You're on crack IMO. I'd take Monta in streetball or one on one, but that's about it. Mayo's a better passer, defender and shooter and most importantly can actually play within a team. Elliss is an inefficient blackhole who can't defend either G position.

[DMAVS41]

I like it. Now if we can get a decent big man in....will really like our team.

Marion plus Larkin and a future pick for a guy like Gortat and a bad contract or something?

Really hope Cuban/Nellie are looking to move those two guys.

[D-Rose]

You're on crack IMO. I'd take Monta in streetball or one on one, but that's about it. Mayo's a better passer, defender and shooter and most importantly can actually play within a team. Elliss is an inefficient blackhole who can't defend either G position.
Watching Mayo last year was painful at best. Horrible court vision, no basketball IQ, way overrated. NO THANKS!

Also Stein reporting it's 3 years $25 mill, could be $30 mill with incentives.

Also for S&T, Dalembert's bird rights are owned by Milwaukee so that's possible too.

[shortsoptional]

Dirk is the same age as Kobe.:oldlol:

Don't forget also that Dirk and Nash are BFFs. :kobe:

Dirk has no trade clause... will never play for LA.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

The rumblings come from several Mav rerters. One of them being Coop.

[Optimus Prime]

Dirk has no trade clause... will never play for LA.

A chance to escape this garbage Mavs team and play with his BFF Nash? Never say never. KG waived his clause to play with Atlantic rivals after all. :kobe:

[eklip]

You're on crack IMO. I'd take Monta in streetball or one on one, but that's about it. Mayo's a better passer, defender and shooter and most importantly can actually play within a team. Elliss is an inefficient blackhole who can't defend either G position.

Mayo is a bad passer, bad decision maker and a bad defender. He played horrible once Dirk came back. He is a horrible fit next to Dirk. Post all-star game he averaged something like 10 pts on 10 shots.

[shortsoptional]

A chance to escape this garbage Mavs team and play with his BFF Nash? Never say never. KG waived his clause to play with Atlantic rivals after all. :kobe:


KG had already left his original team. Dirk never has..never will... has said so in many interviews.

Never.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

A chance to escape this garbage Mavs team and play with his BFF Nash? Never say never. KG waived his clause to play with Atlantic rivals after all.

The difference though is Garnett was already someplace else before he got to Boston.

And Dirk just got married and they are having a kid in a couple of months. He likes Dallas. Harder to just uproot all of that at his age. Garnett was only in Boston for 5-6 years.

Dirk's been here for almost triple that.

[DMAVS41]

You're on crack IMO. I'd take Monta in streetball or one on one, but that's about it. Mayo's a better passer, defender and shooter and most importantly can actually play within a team. Elliss is an inefficient blackhole who can't defend either G position.

Mayo can't do so many of those things.

Ellis is a better player and a better fit actually.

This whole thing now hinges on being able to get a quality center or a couple guys to rebound and defend the paint. If that happens...this team will be dangerous if healthy in the playoffs.

If not, they'll win a bunch of regular season games and make no noise in the playoffs.

Does anyone know the deal with Gortat? I'd love to get him and maybe take Beasley off their hands if we had to as well.

[kenny817]

A chance to escape this garbage Mavs team and play with his BFF Nash? Never say never. KG waived his clause to play with Atlantic rivals after all. :kobe:

Lakers are done

[kenny817]

Dirk will join the Lakers and play with his boy hood idol Kobe next season.

They are the same age

Idiot

[SilkkTheShocker]

That backourt is going to get torched. Mavs need to find a center that can defend worth a shit

[Phiology]

Basically i like the ellis sign, but not after what has happened before.

they got: ellis, harris, calderon, lakin (this would be okay) and shitload of other players, and on forward/center they got?

dirk, crowder, wright (did he already resign?), maybe brand, maybe dalembert, marion, carter

surely, they have to trade someone for a decent center/pf player. and as you already say, it will be someone of larkin, marion, carter, crowder. Beaubois is worth shit so no. I'd really hate to see marion go, because eventhough he is getting old, he still is the semi heart of the team and defensively good, which will be absolutely lacking (calderon/ellis, replacement harris; ooooouuuuu..)

But whom are they gonna trade for? Every player capable of shit is already gone. Thinking of taking away Asik from Houston? unfortunately no. Millsap gone, Pekovic gone, damn Jefferson gone. I am already really looking forward, about how the mavs are looking this year.

But I am concerned about the backcourt, because it is so full of players ready to play, wanting to play, and of similar skillset or needing playing time to develop.
I thought they really like Larkin, but it seems they will be trading him away.

But reality may only be this: Considering the abysmal Mike James/Mayo/Collison/scrub backcourt, everybody vomited so much last season, that they wanted to be sure to get that right. Won't win any championchips with these players and ****ing contracts, but will be funny to watch.

Everybody pray to whoever or whatever that Dirk is ready to score like a madmen and that defensively a wonder happens, otherwise there is trouble coming.

[Phiology]

Mayo can't do so many of those things.

Ellis is a better player and a better fit actually.

This whole thing now hinges on being able to get a quality center or a couple guys to rebound and defend the paint. If that happens...this team will be dangerous if healthy in the playoffs.

If not, they'll win a bunch of regular season games and make no noise in the playoffs.

Does anyone know the deal with Gortat? I'd love to get him and maybe take Beasley off their hands if we had to as well.

I would nearly trade anything reasonable for Gortat and would love to see him play in Dallas, but to take on idiot crack/smokehead Beasley and his absolutely toxic contract, no way.

Dallas is not going to win it all next year, no need to cripple yourself with beasley and especially his contract.

basically its a bargain. there is not gonna be a tank until nowitzki is gone, but with this roster, i see 6th seed max, and so no need to take black holes in both game and contract like beasley, eventhough receiving gortat.

[DMAVS41]

Basically i like the ellis sign, but not after what has happened before.

they got: ellis, harris, calderon, lakin (this would be okay) and shitload of other players, and on forward/center they got?

dirk, crowder, wright (did he already resign?), maybe brand, maybe dalembert, marion, carter

surely, they have to trade someone for a decent center/pf player. and as you already say, it will be someone of larkin, marion, carter, crowder. Beaubois is worth shit so no. I'd really hate to see marion go, because eventhough he is getting old, he still is the semi heart of the team and defensively good, which will be absolutely lacking (calderon/ellis, replacement harris; ooooouuuuu..)

But whom are they gonna trade for? Every player capable of shit is already gone. Thinking of taking away Asik from Houston? unfortunately no. Millsap gone, Pekovic gone, damn Jefferson gone. I am already really looking forward, about how the mavs are looking this year.

But I am concerned about the backcourt, because it is so full of players ready to play, wanting to play, and of similar skillset or needing playing time to develop.
I thought they really like Larkin, but it seems they will be trading him away.

But reality may only be this: Considering the abysmal Mike James/Mayo/Collison/scrub backcourt, everybody vomited so much last season, that they wanted to be sure to get that right. Won't win any championchips with these players and ****ing contracts, but will be funny to watch.

Everybody pray to whoever or whatever that Dirk is ready to score like a madmen and that defensively a wonder happens, otherwise there is trouble coming.

It won't work unless they get 1...probably 2 centers that can defend and rebound. I think getting Dalembert in is a good step in the right direction, but I think they have to move Marion and Larkin for a big. It just makes sense to do so.

Larkin will not see the floor if the Mavs are healthy. Carlisle already hates playing rookies...so no way is he getting time with Ellis, Calderon, Harris, and Ellington in the backcourt. So Larkin is worthless to us this year and probably next year as well.

While I like Marion as well, he is an expiring contract and if a team like the Suns can get Larkin and maybe something else and Marion for Gortat...I think they'd have to at least think about it. Because they could get a third team involved and send Marion to the third team and get maybe another young player or pick...and could also shed the Beasley contract as well.

This is what I'm really hoping for...something along those lines. Because a starting 5 of Calderon, Ellis, Crowder, Dirk, and Gortat with Harris, Ellington, Carter, and Dalembert on the bench is actually pretty intriguing.

And with Dirk taking the pay cut next year and the ability to sign someone big or fill out that roster...it's actually pretty fun for this year and 2 or 3 more. Then Dirk retires and we blow the whole thing up.

But we have to get a guy like Gortat in here. That is a must or this team is just a run regular season team with no chance to do anything in the playoffs.

[DMAVS41]

I would nearly trade anything reasonable for Gortat and would love to see him play in Dallas, but to take on idiot crack/smokehead Beasley and his absolutely toxic contract, no way.

Dallas is not going to win it all next year, no need to cripple yourself with beasley and especially his contract.

basically its a bargain. there is not gonna be a tank until nowitzki is gone, but with this roster, i see 6th seed max, and so no need to take black holes in both game and contract like beasley, eventhough receiving gortat.

Beasley makes 6 million this year and 6.25 next year. If that is the price we have to pay for Gortat...I think we have to do it. I don't like it either, but it's not crippling at all. Moving an expiring 6.25 milion dollar contract after this year is easy in the climate of the NBA. And with Marion gone...we would need a sf.

[shortsoptional]

It won't work unless they get 1...probably 2 centers that can defend and rebound. I think getting Dalembert in is a good step in the right direction, but I think they have to move Marion and Larkin for a big. It just makes sense to do so.

Larkin will not see the floor if the Mavs are healthy. Carlisle already hates playing rookies...so no way is he getting time with Ellis, Calderon, Harris, and Ellington in the backcourt. So Larkin is worthless to us this year and probably next year as well.

While I like Marion as well, he is an expiring contract and if a team like the Suns can get Larkin and maybe something else and Marion for Gortat...I think they'd have to at least think about it. Because they could get a third team involved and send Marion to the third team and get maybe another young player or pick...and could also shed the Beasley contract as well.

This is what I'm really hoping for...something along those lines. Because a starting 5 of Calderon, Ellis, Crowder, Dirk, and Gortat with Harris, Ellington, Carter, and Dalembert on the bench is actually pretty intriguing.

And with Dirk taking the pay cut next year and the ability to sign someone big or fill out that roster...it's actually pretty fun for this year and 2 or 3 more. Then Dirk retires and we blow the whole thing up.

But we have to get a guy like Gortat in here. That is a must or this team is just a run regular season team with no chance to do anything in the playoffs.

Agree with this.

If nothing else, this team will be fun to watch, and we can at least feel like there is a chance something can happen big.

I do see the writing on the wall for when Dirk retires though.

Dirk will probably sign a 2 year deal after this year.

Devin Harris- 3 year deal
Monta Ellis- 3 year deal
Jose Calderon- 3 year deal

Dirk will retire, everyone will come off the books and the Mavs can re-load through draft/free agency for 2-3 years.

[DirkNowitzki41]

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

I love this signing.

[Xsatyr]

lol poor Mavs.

[PickernRoller]

30 mill for 3 years ain't bad. 10 mill per year for Monta - a decent SG/PG combo, relatively young is not bad.

Whether Mav fans see him as a bad fit is another thing.

[04mzwach]

Ellis was offered 3 years, 36 million and now he got 3 year, 30 million.

Oops.

But he has a chance to win.
Maybe playing with Dirk will get him to adjust his game. People thought Crawford was a selfish gunner; came to the Hawks and he adjusted his game and became a top sixth man in the league.
How about AK47? He opted out of his contract at 10 million and signed for 3.18 million elsewhere.

[Droid101]

Pretty much guarantees Dirk signs with a contender this coming offseason.

[shortsoptional]

Pretty much guarantees Dirk signs with a contender this coming offseason.


Laker fans only hope.

But he won't...

[Levity]

but I think they have to move Marion and Larkin for a big. It just makes sense to do so.



Would the mavs be interested in Jordan Hill(great rebounder and plays better as a 5 than a 4) and filler(for contract reasons) for those two? Marion's expiring, correct? Larkin could learn from nash this season, and possibly be part of the lakers upcoming future.

[bdreason]

8-9m per isn't bad for Monta. Mavs needed to sign somebody. Not a big fan of their moves so far, but you never know.

[Shade8780]

So basically, the Mavericks traded OJ Mayo to the Bucks for Monta Ellis?

[Phiology]

Beasley makes 6 million this year and 6.25 next year. If that is the price we have to pay for Gortat...I think we have to do it. I don't like it either, but it's not crippling at all. Moving an expiring 6.25 milion dollar contract after this year is easy in the climate of the NBA. And with Marion gone...we would need a sf.

Answering on both your replies: I also think Dalembert would be a step in the right direction, because he can score and has at least shown to be able to minimally defend. But he is noone to change anything in case of general results or defensive behavior.

On Guard situation you are correct, seeing the way the Mavs signed guards this offseason (and dont get me wrong: i love calderon, the way he plays and his attitude, but contract is dubious and shortcomings are obvious; harris comes back and his first stint became stinky in the finals vs miami and is certainly think he has not become better, still he is a capable player; and ellis: good slasher, good scorer, but no defense) there is nearly no way to let the rookies play, and possibly be surprised.

See Crowder last year, we had nobody really on SF, and i think either one of Ellington or Larkin is going to pan out. I just dont see, how investing in so many guards (moneywise, without having shit on ANY forward position) is gonna result in something good.

And dont plan too far ahead. Dirk commited to resign to a low price, but who will sign? We absolutely MUST NOT wait for LeBron, because he will not come, same as Deron and Howard (luckily). Just put a talented squad together, that plays together and has some upside. This roster here has few upside in my opinion, and might hinder tank or development process however you may call it.

Coming to beasley: we might need a SF, but i think it is bettere that anyone plays this position, except for him. Also, you say he might be worth something when he expires next year. While you are right, that expirings are worth more and more under new CBA, he still ONLY :D has a 6-7 Million contract, and so is not a massive expierer. What is Dallas supposed to get for him? Late first, second round pick, heavily protected pick, submediocer player? I just dont see the benefit, eventhough Gortat would be a dream of a player to join Dallas.

[Phiology]

Would the mavs be interested in Jordan Hill(great rebounder and plays better as a 5 than a 4) and filler(for contract reasons) for those two? Marion's expiring, correct? Larkin could learn from nash this season, and possibly be part of the lakers upcoming future.

Jordan Hill maybe. But who else would the lakers give? There is nobody of interest for dallas. For the Lakers, sure it would be nice.


So basically, the Mavericks traded OJ Mayo to the Bucks for Monta Ellis?

basically, and jugdes only on this trade, it probably was/and or will be a good one.

[PickernRoller]

Laker fans only hope.

But he won't...

We hope he signs with the Lakers. Nash, Kobe, Dirk and Gasol. BFF's forever doe.

[shortsoptional]

Would the mavs be interested in Jordan Hill(great rebounder and plays better as a 5 than a 4) and filler(for contract reasons) for those two? Marion's expiring, correct? Larkin could learn from nash this season, and possibly be part of the lakers upcoming future.

I would see that as a possibility to consider.

Hill would need to be healthy.

[shortsoptional]

We hope he signs with the Lakers. Nash, Kobe, Dirk and Gasol. BFF's forever doe.


Right.. but it's silly, because if Dirk and Nash were such BFF's who wanted to play together, then Nash could have come to Dallas last year and played with Dirk.

Dirk has said countless time that if he didn't have a ring, he might consider leaving, but that this is his home, he does have a ring, and Cuban has been loyal to him over the years. That means something. Dirk will not ring chase with LA or anyone else.

[Clifton]

I'll give the Mavs this: Ellis is a better fit on that team than he'd be on any other.

San Antonio might have done well to go after him, too, but other than that...

The Mavs at least can't be worse than they were last season. Could be back in the playoffs at least. But, really, they needed to land Bynum or Howard. Let's be real. Dirk will never make the finals again as a marquee player and it's a shame.

[anthonyRandolph]

Tyreke Evans was a bargain..

[bagelred]

Seems like it's official.....Monta Elle have it all.

It's amazing how certain guys always managed to get paid. Except for AK47 of course, who suspiciously gave up $7 million for no reason. :coleman:

[DMAVS41]

Answering on both your replies: I also think Dalembert would be a step in the right direction, because he can score and has at least shown to be able to minimally defend. But he is noone to change anything in case of general results or defensive behavior.

On Guard situation you are correct, seeing the way the Mavs signed guards this offseason (and dont get me wrong: i love calderon, the way he plays and his attitude, but contract is dubious and shortcomings are obvious; harris comes back and his first stint became stinky in the finals vs miami and is certainly think he has not become better, still he is a capable player; and ellis: good slasher, good scorer, but no defense) there is nearly no way to let the rookies play, and possibly be surprised.

See Crowder last year, we had nobody really on SF, and i think either one of Ellington or Larkin is going to pan out. I just dont see, how investing in so many guards (moneywise, without having shit on ANY forward position) is gonna result in something good.

And dont plan too far ahead. Dirk commited to resign to a low price, but who will sign? We absolutely MUST NOT wait for LeBron, because he will not come, same as Deron and Howard (luckily). Just put a talented squad together, that plays together and has some upside. This roster here has few upside in my opinion, and might hinder tank or development process however you may call it.

Coming to beasley: we might need a SF, but i think it is bettere that anyone plays this position, except for him. Also, you say he might be worth something when he expires next year. While you are right, that expirings are worth more and more under new CBA, he still ONLY :D has a 6-7 Million contract, and so is not a massive expierer. What is Dallas supposed to get for him? Late first, second round pick, heavily protected pick, submediocer player? I just dont see the benefit, eventhough Gortat would be a dream of a player to join Dallas.


We are on a 3 or 4 year plan. Dirk has this year remaining and then I bet he signs a 2 year deal with maybe a third year as an option or something. So I don't think any of the signings so far are bad at all.

In terms of the guards...I really like what the Mavs did. Calderon, Ellis, Harris, and Ellington is fantastic and really is exactly what we needed. Obviously we are lacking as sf and c. I think carter and crowder can fill that void at sf reasonably well if need be, but would also like to add someone.

Center is clearly where this team needs to go now and it's vital because defensively we are going to be weak and need rim protection/rebounding.

If we can get Gortat...we have to do it. Simple as that. I don't see your point about getting something for Beasley in the future. We wouldn't need to. He's just an expiring contract we could shed next year and a sf that actually might help us this year.

I think the Mavs do everything they can with Marion/Larkin to get a guy like Gortat and if we have to take on a bad contract that expires after next year...no big deal.

Totally agree about Lebron. He's not coming here so it doesn't matter. But we will be able to fill out that roster very well next summer regardless of whether or not we get a star player.

So...obviously it's not what we all wanted, but this team should be competitive for the next 3 or 4 years with the potential to improve a lot next summer if we get lucky in free agency.

[BoutPractice]

Ellis is a better player than Mayo, but I'm worried about lack of outside shooting in the backcourt. To win in the playoffs having numerous 3 point threats other than Dirk is a must.

Would definitely dig a trade for Gortat. Otherwise with Dalembert they should be good enough for a playoff appearance.

[ihatetimthomas]

Mavs are heading to a place where I never thought they would go. The land of mediocrity. Signing mediocre players to multi year contracts. They are going no where. I guess they felt they needed to do something but man did they strike out the last few years. The allure of playing with a old Dirk has no luster anymore. I bet Dirks getting frustrated now.

[boozehound]

I dont get a backcourt of him and calderon. Talk about terrible defense and no size. at least calderon is an efficient scorer

[DMAVS41]

Mavs are heading to a place where I never thought they would go. The land of mediocrity. Signing mediocre players to multi year contracts. They are going no where. I guess they felt they needed to do something but man did they strike out the last few years. The allure of playing with a old Dirk has no luster anymore. I bet Dirks getting frustrated now.

Yea. After everything fell through...this was the only choice really. It was either this or trade Dirk and start over.

I really don't mind this so far. I just hope we aren't done yet. Marion and Larkin should be able to fetch something we need badly. Then going into next summer we have a pretty good team and will be able to improve the roster quite a bit in the offseason.

Again...not what anyone was hoping for, but it was either sign all of our old players to terrible contracts after 11 and be mediocre...or risk it and try to get a superstar. Unfortunately...neither option would have worked out. And this is the best we can do.

Sucks, but hopefully we make the playoffs next year. It's not going to be easy.

[ihatetimthomas]

Yea. After everything fell through...this was the only choice really. It was either this or trade Dirk and start over.

I really don't mind this so far. I just hope we aren't done yet. Marion and Larkin should be able to fetch something we need badly. Then going into next summer we have a pretty good team and will be able to improve the roster quite a bit in the offseason.

Again...not what anyone was hoping for, but it was either sign all of our old players to terrible contracts after 11 and be mediocre...or risk it and try to get a superstar. Unfortunately...neither option would have worked out. And this is the best we can do.

Sucks, but hopefully we make the playoffs next year. It's not going to be easy.


Yeah, there kind of really was no other option unless they wanted to tank for next years draft. Just not enamored by the signings. Calderon is ok i guess, dont really like Ellis much. Feels like they are just prolonging the inevitable rebuild but with Dirk still in the mix, Cuban trying to give him something to work with.

[DMAVS41]

Yeah, there kind of really was no other option unless they wanted to tank for next years draft. Just not enamored by the signings. Calderon is ok i guess, dont really like Ellis much. Feels like they are just prolonging the inevitable rebuild but with Dirk still in the mix, Cuban trying to give him something to work with.

Yea. We should probably scrap it all and rebuild now, but with Dirk only having likely 3 years left...it's ok to prolong it and see Dirk end his career on what should at least be a competitive team with the chance to actually be really good after next summer with some luck.

I like Ellis for this team. I think he does a lot of things we need and I think Dirk and Carlisle can get him to play the way we need to. Also love Calderon with him and Dirk as well...on offense at least.

The big problem is of course defense. Which is why we have to find a way to get a reliable center in here. Gortat with Dalembert at center actually makes this team potentially very scary if healthy.

[boozehound]

Yea. We should probably scrap it all and rebuild now, but with Dirk only having likely 3 years left...it's ok to prolong it and see Dirk end his career on what should at least be a competitive team with the chance to actually be really good after next summer with some luck.

I like Ellis for this team. I think he does a lot of things we need and I think Dirk and Carlisle can get him to play the way we need to. Also love Calderon with him and Dirk as well...on offense at least.

The big problem is of course defense. Which is why we have to find a way to get a reliable center in here. Gortat with Dalembert at center actually makes this team potentially very scary if healthy.
pretty sure you guys have been saying the same first sentence for the last 3 seasons. Lets face it, there is no guarantee you will get anyone to build around dirk. just like howard, just like dwill. I think its smarter to take the boston route. Dirk still has hella value in trade. 3 years from now, he retires and doenst bring you anything

[It's A VC3!!!]

Dirk, Monta and Andrew would have been a solid big 3. Just getting Monta doesn't make the Mavericks a threat but I'm sure Mark has a move or two up his sleeve. I would say to get rid of Marion and his large contract if possible.

[Wally450]

In b4 Mavs make the playoff in the West

[ALBballer]

Why not take a chance on Bynum instead? Cleveland gav him 6 mill guarnteed first year and 12 million team option.

[D-Rose]

The rebuilding route is nice and all but we have never had a player as good as Dirk in Dallas. Rebuilding and tanking is WAY harder than it sounds.

Cuban has made mistakes and whiffed on FAs but there is a mutual feeling between him and Dirk to keep Dirk there. Dirk isn't going to want to go ring chase..he's already won a ring, FMVP, MVP. Dallas is his home and the Mavs want to keep him until he retires.

Again, we've never had a guy that good and he can be good for another 3 years...I'm all for surrounding him with as much talent and trying to win. The pieces on this roster are a mess but a few trades here and there and it wouldn't look too different from the 2011 roster.

Again, being competitive and helping Dirk retire with dignity is the ultimate goal here.

[DMAVS41]

pretty sure you guys have been saying the same first sentence for the last 3 seasons. Lets face it, there is no guarantee you will get anyone to build around dirk. just like howard, just like dwill. I think its smarter to take the boston route. Dirk still has hella value in trade. 3 years from now, he retires and doenst bring you anything

we most likely will not win the title, but that doesn't mean you just trade the best player in franchise history.

we don't know what is going to happen, but as a fan...I'd rather us do this over the next 3 years and give it a go and delay rebuilding.

[D-Rose]

Stein points out it's 3 yrs $25 mill and not a S&T.

[Jomo23]

Marc Stein: ESPN sources: Toe injury forces Mavs to shelve plan to re-sign fan favorite Devin Harris. Sides mutually agree to scrap three-year, $9M deal


Dwain Price: Shane Larkin out 2-3 months (ankle). And Devin Harris (toe) won't be signing with the Mavs, a source said. That's why they got Monta Ellis.

:biggums:

[poido123]

They were better off not signing him at all.

Calderon Ellis backcourt on D? Yuck.

They have old ass marion and dirk to defend as well, this isnt goign to be pretty for the Mavs.

I like Cuban and Dirk, but these decisions are atrocious and desparate.

[poido123]

Yea. After everything fell through...this was the only choice really. It was either this or trade Dirk and start over.

I really don't mind this so far. I just hope we aren't done yet. Marion and Larkin should be able to fetch something we need badly. Then going into next summer we have a pretty good team and will be able to improve the roster quite a bit in the offseason.

Again...not what anyone was hoping for, but it was either sign all of our old players to terrible contracts after 11 and be mediocre...or risk it and try to get a superstar. Unfortunately...neither option would have worked out. And this is the best we can do.

Sucks, but hopefully we make the playoffs next year. It's not going to be easy.


Your team won't be making palyoffs as is. No D and old core.

[KG215]

Wait? How is Shane Larkin not signing? First rounders get a guaranteed contract, right?

And what's going to happen to Devin Harris? Just go back into the FA pool?

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Wait? How is Shane Larkin not signing? First rounders get a guaranteed contract, right?

if you were referring to that Dwain Price thing, there's a period after Larkin's info. He's still signing.

[KG215]

if you were referring to that Dwain Price thing, there's a period after Larkin's info. He's still signing.
Yep, you're right. Missed that.

[ElPigto]

The rebuilding route is nice and all but we have never had a player as good as Dirk in Dallas. Rebuilding and tanking is WAY harder than it sounds.

Cuban has made mistakes and whiffed on FAs but there is a mutual feeling between him and Dirk to keep Dirk there. Dirk isn't going to want to go ring chase..he's already won a ring, FMVP, MVP. Dallas is his home and the Mavs want to keep him until he retires.

Again, we've never had a guy that good and he can be good for another 3 years...I'm all for surrounding him with as much talent and trying to win. The pieces on this roster are a mess but a few trades here and there and it wouldn't look too different from the 2011 roster.

Again, being competitive and helping Dirk retire with dignity is the ultimate goal here.

The Mavs organization definitely owe it to Dirk. He's been loyal to them now it is their turn to be loyal to him. It sucks prolonging the re-build process for a franchise that is going nowhere but mediocrity. During Hakeem's last few years, I wanted the Rockets to keep him until he retired regardless if we were no longer contenders. If I were the Mavs fan, I'd definitely would feel the same about Dirk even if the next few years are going to pretty much suck as far as being competitive.

[Clifton]

As for the SF spot, they still have Marion and Carter, right? (Side note: it's amazing, to a guy who grew into an NBA fan around 2002-05, that Marion and Carter are on the same non-playoff team and are afterthoughts on it.) That's good enough. They're both strong, good on D, hit shots. What they need is a center. As for Ellis, he shot nearly 52% his last year on the Warriors. If the offense is good, he'll be much more efficient than you'd expect. He's money from midrange.


Mavs are heading to a place where I never thought they would go. The land of mediocrity. Signing mediocre players to multi year contracts.
That's what they've been almost since we've known them. Remember when they had Antoine Walker and Antawn Jamison at the same time?

[Take Your Lumps]

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo 6h
Monta Ellis had the worst FG pct (32.3) on jumpers off the dribble last season (min. 250 FGA).

:biggums:

[tpols]

could be worse.. Nets gave travis outlaw 35 mil 3 years ago.:facepalm