BREAKING NEWS: The Gasol brothers are on steroids...

[Twiens]

http://thatnbalotterypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/article-0-1A85EF1D000005DC-203_634x763.jpg

:oldlol:

[PickernRoller]

Pau looking soft and round.

[TheReal Kendall]

That 6 pack! :oldlol:


Just look at those jaw lines:lol

They definitely juicing:facepalm

[ralph_i_el]

Carrying some weight to throw around eh

[Crown&Coke]

I wonder how they know Emmy Rossum?

[tomtucker]

fukking out of shape..........:facepalm

[bluechox2]

fukking out of shape..........:facepalm
thats the requirements for 3 point shooting

[MMKM]

God Pau, Kobe in better shape on one leg.

[LosBulls]

50 years from now ISHers will look at this pic and be like "This is the competition LeBron James faced, fat white guys,weak era"

[DuMa]

catalonian super athletes

[Wally450]

What fa**ot from '06 only has 1,800 posts?

[CavaliersFTW]

weak era, these soft white guys would get owned by HS players from 2030

[Rubio2Gasol]

These 2 better get in shape :rant

[Deuce Bigalow]

weak era, these soft white guys would get owned by HS players from 2030
Both are 7-foot 250+ pounds. Did Wilt face at least one player that matched those qualifications?

[Electric Slide]

http://static.igossip.com/photos_2/july_2010/25500_Photos_lebron_loyalty.jpg

[EnoughSaid]

So what? Let them do them? Gasol was the DPOY and one of the best centers. Pau on the other hand I don't know.

[avonbarksdale]

i have a better looking bod jesus

[rzp]

What fa**ot from '06 only has 1,800 posts?

thats called "something else to do" or "having a job"...

piece of sh!t

[CavaliersFTW]

Both are 7-foot 250+ pounds. Did Wilt face at least one player that matched those qualifications?
Nope he just played 5 foot white scrubs such as:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ig46cL1DZS8/T02V0uZmt-I/AAAAAAAADGE/oSW47JOUj28/s800/Bob_Lanier.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IlubSSwQ0yY/UPzbjLxgbzI/AAAAAAAAEA8/Lz0OunkNBbQ/s800/Nate%2520Thurmond1.jpg

[Done_And_Done]

Zero f*ucks given by the Gasol familia...

[Euroleague]

http://static.igossip.com/photos_2/july_2010/25500_Photos_lebron_loyalty.jpg

Classic HGH and steroid user.

[PizzamanIRL]

Pau looks like the dude from Convos with a 2 year old

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k1qPaDJHOs

[EnoughSaid]

Nope he just played 5 foot white scrubs such as:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ig46cL1DZS8/T02V0uZmt-I/AAAAAAAADGE/oSW47JOUj28/s800/Bob_Lanier.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IlubSSwQ0yY/UPzbjLxgbzI/AAAAAAAAEA8/Lz0OunkNBbQ/s800/Nate%2520Thurmond1.jpg

Nate Thurmond! :bowdown:

[alenleomessi]

Classic HGH and steroid user.
lebron's body isnt anything special really... its achievable even if u have average genetics... though his stamina and atleticism are ridiculous even for a black athlete

[CavaliersFTW]

Classic HGH and steroid user.
Do you think V-Span took steroids in order to achieve his inhuman quickness? (You said he was quicker than Rose/Westbrook combined). Or was he just gifted genetically?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Nope he just played 5 foot white scrubs such as:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ig46cL1DZS8/T02V0uZmt-I/AAAAAAAADGE/oSW47JOUj28/s800/Bob_Lanier.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IlubSSwQ0yY/UPzbjLxgbzI/AAAAAAAAEA8/Lz0OunkNBbQ/s800/Nate%2520Thurmond1.jpg
Googled Thurmond to find height, and came across this funny pic

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Wilt_Chamberlain_Nate_Thurmond.jpg

6'11

[TonyMontana]

lebron's body isnt anything special really... its achievable even if u have average genetics... though his stamina and atleticism are ridiculous even for a black athlete

LeBron has the best body in the history of athletes. 6'8 and pushing 270. You think of a bulky slow guy with those stats, but this guy is also one of the quickest athletes alive, can get his head a foot above a basketball rim, and has the length/wingspan to make it all come together. LeBron is the definition of functional athletisicm.

LeBron NEVER gets tired.

This isn't even taking into account he plays a skill sport, and has the best skills in his respective sport to go along with his elite athletisicm.

You can train all your life and devote yourself to it and you will never be 10% of the physical specimen that LeBron is. This is the top of the top in terms of genetics.

[rzp]

LeBron has the best body in the history of athletes. 6'8 and pushing 270. You think of a bulky slow guy with those stats, but this guy is also one of the quickest athletes alive, can get his head a foot above a basketball rim, and has the length/wingspan to make it all come together. LeBron is the definition of functional athletisicm.

LeBron NEVER gets tired.

This isn't even taking into account he plays a skill sport, and has the best skills in his respective sport to go along with his elite athletisicm.

You can train all your life and devote yourself to it and you will never be 10% of the physical specimen that LeBron is. This is the top of the top in terms of genetics.


nope ...

Shaq says hi

[Living Being]

LeBron has the best body in the history of athletes. 6'8 and pushing 270. You think of a bulky slow guy with those stats, but this guy is also one of the quickest athletes alive, can get his head a foot above a basketball rim, and has the length/wingspan to make it all come together. LeBron is the definition of functional athletisicm.

LeBron NEVER gets tired.

This isn't even taking into account he plays a skill sport, and has the best skills in his respective sport to go along with his elite athletisicm.

You can train all your life and devote yourself to it and you will never be 10% of the physical specimen that LeBron is. This is the top of the top in terms of genetics.
Hey LeBron stan, how's LeBron doing today?

[FKAri]

Do you think V-Span took steroids in order to achieve his inhuman quickness? (You said he was quicker than Rose/Westbrook combined). Or was he just gifted genetically?

Probably gifted genetically unlike Nate Thurmond who probably took a few needles and c0cks in his ass. Just look at his wikipedia picture lmao. What a phakkit scrub. I heard he couldn't dribble without looking down. Sounds like Joel Anthony without basketball training. You got any gameplay footage for me? I'm all out of comedies to watch.

[buddha]

50 years from now ISHers will look at this pic and be like "This is the competition LeBron James faced, fat white guys,weak era"

Well white people will be as athletic as black people in 50 years with genetic engineering. So they will probably have a good point.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Im not normally one to tell athletes how to live their lives outside of their job, but I find it disgraceful when professional athletes have utterly sloppy physiques. I dont care how good you are already, any player who is soft and out of shape would be a better player with less blubber rolls and more toned muscle. Have some pride ffs

[Nezty]

50 years from now ISHers will look at this pic and be like "This is the competition LeBron James faced, fat white guys,weak era"


This, I don't think anyone on here even watched Wilt play and they say he only played against small white boys. :facepalm

[Andy Hug]

LeBron has the best body in the history of athletes. 6'8 and pushing 270. You think of a bulky slow guy with those stats, but this guy is also one of the quickest athletes alive, can get his head a foot above a basketball rim, and has the length/wingspan to make it all come together. LeBron is the definition of functional athletisicm.

LeBron NEVER gets tired.

This isn't even taking into account he plays a skill sport, and has the best skills in his respective sport to go along with his elite athletisicm.

You can train all your life and devote yourself to it and you will never be 10% of the physical specimen that LeBron is. This is the top of the top in terms of genetics.


You must not watch the NFL.

[FindingTim]

would you rather have Lebron's physique or Blake Griffins?
http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2011/07/blake-griffin-shirtless-beach.jpg

[buddha]

would you rather have Lebron's physique or Blake Griffins?
http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2011/07/blake-griffin-shirtless-beach.jpg


nobody wants to be a ginger.

[no pun intended]

I wonder how they know Emmy Rossum?
Is that really Emmy?

[FKAri]

LeBron

Griffin doesn't have the quickness, or endurance of LeBron. Hes on par strength wise, but thats it. He also has those short arms which is why he'll never be a good defender in the NBA.

You need to go check what physique means. Lebron's got a mediocre physique.

[plowking]

Shaq has a better body for basketball because so much emphasis is on height and length.

But LeBron is a better overall pure athlete. His combination of size, strength, quickness, and stamina is unrivaled.



If LeBron was in the NFL his training routine would incorporate powerlifting and he would have MUCH more muscle mass. He'd probably play TE and be over 300 pounds. Think of a MUCH better version of Gronkowski.

Do you actually know what basketball players do in the weight room? None of these guys are doing heavy low rep squats/deadlifts. Most of them just do basic movements that don't put a lot of stress on their joints.

What bullshit are you spewing? :oldlol:

Basketballers do plenty of low rep squat and deadlift routines. Its just not a staple like it is for the NFL guys. There is videos of Hibbert deadlifting 480lbs for about 3 reps on the net. Plenty of other too, the one I mentioned being the most recent I saw.

I agree that Lebron is the best athlete on the planet atm, but don't throw out words that aren't true.

[thabisyo]

nobody wants to be a ginger.

:roll:


:oldlol:

[Hittin_Shots]

nobody wants to be a ginger.

On the other hand, **** you

[OldSkoolball#52]

nobody wants to be a ginger.


It's kind weird how he is sort of ginger in the face and neck but his body tan is impeccably flawless. Never seen a "ginger" with such a magnificent tan.


Also, as far as physique Griffin's is def. better than Lebrons. Doesn't mean Griffin is the better athlete, Lebron is for sure, but from an aesthetic perspective Griffin is in much better shape. Lebron is strong and bulky but he's not cut like Griffin.






















no homo

[plowking]

I've seen the Hibbert video. He did the lift by using one of those ***** bars(don't know what its called), but it wasn't with a legit barbell. And even so 480 for 3 is nothing special. You can find average joes that do that with ease in any respectable gym.

Find me any kind of video/proof of NBA BALLERS(not some low level recreational "bro") doing low rep squat/deadlift routines with a lot of weight. It doesn't happen. Muscle mass isn't the number one goal of basketball players. It puts too much strain on their joints and with all of the games/practices these guys have it would just make them more prone to injury.

:oldlol:

Average Joes doing that? :oldlol:
No. I'd say less than 5% of males on the planet can do that.

You don't know what you're talking about. Heavy/low rep routines aren't just for muscle mass. They're for power as well.

If you think basketball players don't touch heavy weights at all, then :oldlol: at you.

[DCL]

pau gasol got some serious beer gut

[plowking]

I noticed you failed to find any examples of NBA players doing low rep ass to grass Squats and Deadlifts. Don't laugh it off if you can't find ANYTHING supporting the shit you claim.

Since you brought up Hibbert, here is the video you probably saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DVFMlSPp4v0

This is a good example of how an NBA player spends their time in the weight room. You see him doing his "deadlifts" at 6 minute mark and 13:10. That isn't even a ****ing deadlift, look at the bar hes using, not to mention that shit is already elevated 2 feet in the air. :oldlol: Its more like a rack pull with straps :oldlol: , pathetic range of motion. I bet when Hibbert squats, he does half squats.

5% is too high. 1% is still probably too high if your counting EVERY civilian. But thats just because most guys just dont have the knowledge/time/resources of what it takes to get there. You need to know what your doing.

Almost any healthy male has the potential to deadlift 480 for 3 provided you give them the knowledge/time/nutrition to do so.

Running up and down a court not just during the 82 + playoffs games, but during the practices and the skill sessions, it takes a toll on your joints. The heavier you are, the more prone to injuries your going to be. Thats why these guys don't train that way. At a certain point getting bigger becomes more of a hindrance than a strength. Not to mention the heavy lifts themselves take a toll on your joints.

Your welcome to try and find any evidence you want of NBA players doing powerlifting routines, but you wont find it.

Who says their doing powerlifting routines? You're harping on as if they don't touch heavy weights or do low rep routines at all. They do.

Go to one of the NBA FIT videos and you'll see Chris Paul doing a heavy set of bench press for him with 5 reps. What exactly would you classify that as?

Why do you think a lot of powerlifters have 35+ inch verticals? Because it works. NBA players are doing the same thing, just not to the extent. They vary it, but to suggest they don't do low reps with heavy weights at all is flat out wrong.

How exactly do you think they go about building that fast twitch, explosive muscle movement?

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://thatnbalotterypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/article-0-1A85EF1D000005DC-203_634x763.jpg



If I didn't know the guys and you told me they are professional athletes I wouldn't believe it.

[Harison]

Is that really Emmy?

No, but I see why some may think so, she has some resemblance.

I can understand Gasols taking their time off from the gym, its a vacation. Still, if they want to be in the shape when training camp starts, they should start working out like yesterday. :rolleyes:

[SpanishACB]

So you rather have Meta World who doesn't even understand the simple Lakers triangle?

Priorities.

[ChrisPosh]

Nope he just played 5 foot white scrubs such as:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ig46cL1DZS8/T02V0uZmt-I/AAAAAAAADGE/oSW47JOUj28/s800/Bob_Lanier.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IlubSSwQ0yY/UPzbjLxgbzI/AAAAAAAAEA8/Lz0OunkNBbQ/s800/Nate%2520Thurmond1.jpg

That's Nate Thurmond! From Akron, Ohio he ain't even supposed to be here.

[Floppy]

I noticed you failed to find any examples of NBA players doing low rep ass to grass Squats and Deadlifts. Don't laugh it off if you can't find ANYTHING supporting the shit you claim.

Since you brought up Hibbert, here is the video you probably saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DVFMlSPp4v0

This is a good example of how an NBA player spends their time in the weight room. You see him doing his "deadlifts" at 6 minute mark and 13:10. That isn't even a ****ing deadlift, look at the bar hes using, not to mention that shit is already elevated 2 feet in the air. :oldlol: Its more like a rack pull with straps :oldlol: , pathetic range of motion. I bet when Hibbert squats, he does half squats.

5% is too high. 1% is still probably too high if your counting EVERY civilian. But thats just because most guys just dont have the knowledge/time/resources of what it takes to get there. You need to know what your doing.

Almost any healthy male has the potential to deadlift 480 for 3 provided you give them the knowledge/time/nutrition to do so.

Running up and down a court not just during the 82 + playoffs games, but during the practices and the skill sessions, it takes a toll on your joints. The heavier you are, the more prone to injuries your going to be. Thats why these guys don't train that way. At a certain point getting bigger becomes more of a hindrance than a strength. Not to mention the heavy lifts themselves take a toll on your joints.

Your welcome to try and find any evidence you want of NBA players doing powerlifting routines, but you wont find it.
http://www.onlyfoods.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/filbert-nuts-1.jpghttp://globalgenes.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/undiagnosed_rare_disease_mouth_ulcers.jpghttp://media.prleap.com/image/5754/full/VAC-U-MAX_New_1050_Continuous_Duty_vacuum_cleaner.jpg

[Scholar]

Man, Pau is seriously getting paid nearly $20 million per season to look like that? Where do I sign up?!

In all honesty, though, he may look like shit, but he's got some impressive skills (when he's actually mentally into the game) for someone who looks like he spends more time sitting on a couch than playing basketball.

[andremiller07]

In the case of the Gasol brothers skills pay the bills

[devin112]

Gasol brothers' summer vacation= world class locations, beautiful women, and amazing food... > Op's summer vacation= living at home in a basement waiting for his allowance to go to Popeye's and jerking off to porn.

[LAZERUSS]

Both are 7-foot 250+ pounds. Did Wilt face at least one player that matched those qualifications?

How about 7-0 265 Tom Boerwinkle, and using TRB%, arguably one of the better rebounders of all-time...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/sports/basketball/tom-boerwinkle-bulls-center-dies-at-67.html?_r=0


Tom Boerwinkle, a stalwart center for the Chicago Bulls in the 1970s who once used his 7-foot frame to grab 37 rebounds in a game known both for that feat — a team record that still stands — and for the frigid conditions in which it was played, died on Tuesday at his home near Chicago. He was 67.

He played all 10 of his seasons for the Bulls, often alongside stars like Matt Guokas, Jerry Sloan and Chet Walker, and ranks second on the team’s career rebound list. His 5,745 are behind only Jordan’s 5,836, yet Jordan played 35,887 minutes for the Bulls over 13 seasons while Boerwinkle played 14,387, according to Basketball-Reference.com. Boerwinkle also ranks eighth on the team in assists with 2,007. (Jordan is first with 5,012.)

Although Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell had more than 40 rebounds in a game many times before that night — Chamberlain holds the single-game record, 55 — no one has had more than 37 since that night in Chicago, according to NBAHoopsOnline.com. Moses Malone had 37 in a game in 1979.



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/remembering-tom-boerwinkle-video-210027100--nba.html



Boerwinkle quietly averaged a double-double two seasons and was among the league’s top rebounders in 1970 and had himself a 37-rebound game on a snowy January night that season in 35 minutes. His teammates tried to get him to go back in as there was ample time left for more stats. He declined. Boerwinkle was the ultimate team guy, as he was as a friend and colleague, always sacrificing for the group to be better, to succeed as well as it could.




http://www.suntimes.com/19133362-761/long-time-bulls-center-tom-boerwinkle-dies-at-67.html




Lew Alcindor was just as imposing as LeBron James is today and the Milwaukee Bucks were even more dominant than the Miami Heat when the Bucks brought an NBA-record 20-game winning streak to the Chicago Stadium on March 9, 1971.


And Tom Boerwinkle helped put an end to it.

One day after Joe Frazier took down Muhammad Ali in the ‘‘Fight of the Century,’’ Boerwinkle and the Bulls took down Alcindor, Oscar Robertson and the mighty Bucks. Going head-to-head with the great Alcindor — who at 22 was averaging 31 points a game and well on his way to his first MVP award and NBA championship — Boerwinkle grabbed 33 rebounds and scored 21 points to lead the Bulls to a 110-103 overtime victory that ended the longest single-season winning streak in NBA history.


Boerwinkle’s yeoman performance typified the gritty, gutty effort that turned Dick Motta’s Bulls into championship contenders in the 1970s. Alcindor scored 39 points in that 1971 game. But the 7-foot, 270-pound Boerwinkle made him earn every point with a determined effort that prevented the Bucks from taking the lead.




Oh, and how about the 7-2 Artis Gilmore (listed at his rookie weight of 240, but close to 300 by the time he retired)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1utx7OxiaoU

[Technical Lead]

What fa**ot from '06 only has 1,800 posts?
Yeah, what a bum!

[ZenMaster]

I noticed you failed to find any examples of NBA players doing low rep ass to grass Squats and Deadlifts. Don't laugh it off if you can't find ANYTHING supporting the shit you claim.

Since you brought up Hibbert, here is the video you probably saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DVFMlSPp4v0

This is a good example of how an NBA player spends their time in the weight room. You see him doing his "deadlifts" at 6 minute mark and 13:10. That isn't even a ****ing deadlift, look at the bar hes using, not to mention that shit is already elevated 2 feet in the air. :oldlol: Its more like a rack pull with straps :oldlol: , pathetic range of motion. I bet when Hibbert squats, he does half squats.

5% is too high. 1% is still probably too high if your counting EVERY civilian. But thats just because most guys just dont have the knowledge/time/resources of what it takes to get there. You need to know what your doing.

Almost any healthy male has the potential to deadlift 480 for 3 provided you give them the knowledge/time/nutrition to do so.

Running up and down a court not just during the 82 + playoffs games, but during the practices and the skill sessions, it takes a toll on your joints. The heavier you are, the more prone to injuries your going to be. Thats why these guys don't train that way. At a certain point getting bigger becomes more of a hindrance than a strength. Not to mention the heavy lifts themselves take a toll on your joints.

Your welcome to try and find any evidence you want of NBA players doing powerlifting routines, but you wont find it.

All NBA players have done heavy lifting, but you have to do all kinds of physical work to get to NBA level athleticism. During a season you will obviously mostly do "maintain" workouts. Also you'd be stupid to ask people who are 6-7 feet tall to do an excessive load of "ass to grass" squats, the strain it puts on the lower back of tall athletes I don't want to think about. I mostly have my guys use either the hex bar(what Hibbert uses in the video" or by doing front squats with thighs getting parallel to the ground.


Anyways just to show players will do heavy lifting in getting to NBA level athleticism, here's some strength exercises from Oak Hill Academy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lCMCwzqexk&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KkCjh6zIw

[AussieG]

Jesus and his chubbier brother.

[thefatmiral]

they are cultivating mass.

[tomtucker]

all the pictures :

http://thatnbalotterypick.com/pau-and-marc-gasol-go-yachting-in-spain/

[Kingwillball]

50 most Jacked NBA players..

http://www.muscleprodigy.com/the-top-50-most-jacked-nba-basketball-players-part-2-arcl-2672.html

[madmax]

50 years from now ISHers will look at this pic and be like "This is the competition LeBron James faced, fat white guys,weak era"

:lol

[QuebecBaller]

50 most Jacked NBA players..

http://www.muscleprodigy.com/the-top-50-most-jacked-nba-basketball-players-part-2-arcl-2672.html

http://bigbluehistory.net/bb/Graphics/Players/eric_bledsoe3.jpg

:eek: :eek:

http://www.x17online.com/krishumphries02.jpg

:lol :lol

[SpecialQue]

I swear, Lebron could walk up to Tony, put his dick in his mouth and take a piss, and Tony wouldn't brush his teeth for a month.

[Take Your Lumps]

Look at the work ethic on Marc - taking time away from his vacation to do some crunches :bowdown:

http://thatnbalotterypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/article-0-1A85F410000005DC-973_634x554.jpg

[jimmy77x]

I swear, Lebron could walk up to Tony, put his dick in his mouth and take a piss, and Tony wouldn't brush his teeth for a month.

http://i.minus.com/iSpxXFnwJh21z.gif

[ZenMaster]

Genetics.

Most guys that get to the NBA are doing windmills by the 9th grade, before ever even touching a weight.



Oak Hill Academy is a high school, where the guys frames arn't nearly as big as NBA guys. There is also MUCH less games. You said it yourself, nba guys arn't going to do ass to grass squats. Too much strain on their joints and ligaments when they need to be ready to play games, practices, and work on skills.

See what I Said to the other guy. These guys are born with the explosive genetics required for the NBA. What they do in the weight room doesn't have a big effect on that, and the stuff they do isn't that taxing. More or less just to keep them active with the basic movements. These guys are dunking with force by the time their 15 without ever touching a weight.


Kids work out in 8th and 9th grade and even younger. You are born with your genetics, but you have to work out in order to reach your athletic potential.

And even if players don't do as much during the season, they all do explosive work.

My point was to show you have to do this kind of work in order to gain NBA level athleticism.

Here's some they do at Kansas Jayhawks, as you can see there's plenty of low volume high intensity explosive lifts.

http://www.training-conditioning.com/SampleWorkouts.png

[Magic 32]

I swear, Lebron could walk up to Tony, put his dick in his mouth and take a piss, and Tony wouldn't brush his teeth for a month.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvnictVbZP1r1y9xo.gif

[CavaliersFTW]

they are cultivating mass.
If that's true than it's time to start harvesting already :lol

[Electric Slide]

Kids work out in 8th and 9th grade and even younger. You are born with your genetics, but you have to work out in order to reach your athletic potential.
People don't want to believe this because people don't want to work hard. It's simple.

They just rationalize and say it's all genetics and luck when there is certainly more to it.

Reminds me of kids that workout a lot but when people ask them if they workout, they say they barely do. For some reason, people are more interested in bragging about their genetics than about their hard work and it makes no sense to me.

[Euroleague]

lebron's body isnt anything special really... its achievable even if u have average genetics... though his stamina and atleticism are ridiculous even for a black athlete

So you are saying that is not a classic HGH and steroid body? Because it is. Notice how bloated his abdomen is.

His whole chest from below the pecs is muscular and cut, yet it is bloated.

If you just eat right and train, you are lean and muscular in this part of the body but NOT bloated. Even a big natural water gain does not do that.

What causes that is the unnatural water gain that comes from HGH abuse and the growth of organs from HGH use, as well as the steroid use that causes the organs to enlarge.

That's why his abdomen looks bloated and fat, even though it's not fat and is muscle. Because of the HGH and steroids side effects.

[Euroleague]

:oldlol:

Average Joes doing that? :oldlol:
No. I'd say less than 5% of males on the planet can do that.

You don't know what you're talking about. Heavy/low rep routines aren't just for muscle mass. They're for power as well.

If you think basketball players don't touch heavy weights at all, then :oldlol: at you.

480 from your legs, back, shoulders, etc? Dude, lots of men can do that.

[TonyMontana]

Kids work out in 8th and 9th grade and even younger.

Sure, but their extent of "working out" is doing some pushups, situps, and practicing/playing basketball. Maybe jumping some rope?

These guys are definetly being active since they dominate their age group from a very young age and it becomes a big part of who they are, but no middle schoolers are doing Squats/deadlifts dude. Their size/athletisicm/explosiveness is pretty much entirely from genetics. As long as thier doing some kind of activity and not overweight/living an extremely sedentary lifestyle, then it will be on display.

And I dont care about your college program, this is the NBA forum. None of those guys are doing heavy deadlifts/ATG squats anyway which was my original comment that led to plowking disagreeing with me. Show me the video of the Kansas players doing their squats. I'm willing to bet we got a bunch of half squatters.


People don't want to believe this because people don't want to work hard. It's simple.

They just rationalize and say it's all genetics and luck when there is certainly more to it.

Reminds me of kids that workout a lot but when people ask them if they workout, they say they barely do. For some reason, people are more interested in bragging about their genetics than about their hard work and it makes no sense to me.

So according to you whoever practices the most should be the best right?

Thats not how it works. Basketball is a game where if you have athleticism, height, and length you are at a monstrous advantage. You can work on your shooting. You can work on your endurance. You can work on your strength. But you can never get taller or longer, except for genetics.

You can increase your athleticism to a certain degree, but the best athletes are always guys that were still getting way up there despite having little or no training. These guys can do the same training too so that natural advantage that they were born with will always be there.

[secund2nun]

I think that Tony's point was that if Lebron was in the NFL he would be heavier and a tight end, which is true. Currently he is 6'8 265 or possibly even 270. He definitely could gain weight if he wanted to and get near 300.

[TheCorporation]

Both are 7-foot 250+ pounds. Did Wilt face at least one player that matched those qualifications?
:lol

[plowking]

480 from your legs, back, shoulders, etc? Dude, lots of men can do that.

Of course they can. :oldlol:

I've been working out for 4 years now, and I only just hit 500lbs deadlift for 1 rep about 3 or 4 months ago. But sure, everyone can do it. :oldlol:
And I'm 6'3, not 7'2 like Hibbert, so obviously my range of motion isn't going to be as much as his, so its even more impressive he can do it.

In fact, make a thread and poll the posters on here, and ask them how many can deadlift 480lbs. I guarantee you'd get less than 3 posters saying they do. In fact, half who lift probably don't even do deadlifts.

[andgar923]

50 years from now ISHers will look at this pic and be like "This is the competition LeBron James faced, fat white guys,weak era"

More like 10 years from now.

[plowking]

Genetics.

Most guys that get to the NBA are doing windmills by the 9th grade, before ever even touching a weight.



That goes away after you put on weight the incorrect way through muscle building.

I was windmilling by 11th grade, at about 175lbs. That didn't last long as I did the typical routines most gym guys do to gain weight. I'm 220lbs now, and the best I can do is a 2 hander off one foot. If I actually did the right explosive, heavy movements from the get go, I could have kept that jump with the increased weight.

These athletes are taught heavy, explosive compound movements from the get go. And they do them in order to retain their athletic abilities.

[miller-time]

More like 10 years from now.

Yeah, people around here already act like Jordan was only ever defended by Ehlo.

[Ron Jeremy]

http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BLAKE-PAU-GASOL.gif

[andgar923]

My man... :cheers:

Thats what I was saying. NFL and NBA training methods are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT because the sports demand different things. If LeBron was in the NFL he'd be over 300 pounds; he would be doing powerlifting movements, eat everything in sight, and do short burst movements such as sprints. LeBrons got a lot of room to add muscle on his frame even now and if that was his primary goal he could do it easily.

NBA players don't care about getting as strong as possible though. Once you get past the "noob gains" of strength you have to start eating like a horse to continue to make those gains(which means more mass, both fat and muscle). For basketball players this weight is unneeded. It just slows them down and makes them more prone to injury with the additional damage to their joints(since their heavier). Their game involves 82+ games a year combined with even more practices and skill sessions. You can't go through that being heavy, you WILL get hurt.

100% on point

A perfect example is MJ (god I feel like such a stan :facepalm

[iznogood]

http://bigbluehistory.net/bb/Graphics/Players/eric_bledsoe3.jpg

invisible drum kit?

[midatlantic09]

I don't think either one of them would land any chicks without the NBA contract and (moderate) fame.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Look at the work ethic on Marc - taking time away from his vacation to do some crunches :bowdown:

http://thatnbalotterypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/article-0-1A85F410000005DC-973_634x554.jpg
:oldlol: :oldlol:


I don't think either one of them would land any chicks without the NBA contract and (moderate) fame.
ahh, the benefits of being a pro athlete...

(though they could probably still land chicks. Maybe just not as much quantity or quality)

[Euroleague]

Of course they can. :oldlol:

I've been working out for 4 years now, and I only just hit 500lbs deadlift for 1 rep about 3 or 4 months ago. But sure, everyone can do it. :oldlol:
And I'm 6'3, not 7'2 like Hibbert, so obviously my range of motion isn't going to be as much as his, so its even more impressive he can do it.

In fact, make a thread and poll the posters on here, and ask them how many can deadlift 480lbs. I guarantee you'd get less than 3 posters saying they do. In fact, half who lift probably don't even do deadlifts.

So you are weak as hell. So what? Besides, the bigger you are the more leverage you have, making lifts easier.

And the smaller you are, the more compact the lift is, making it less weight to move.

So just spare me the bullshit. The average guy that works at a moving company can lift that without even one day of training. Not to mention pretty much any naturally strong man can do it.

[alenleomessi]

So you are weak as hell. So what? Besides, the bigger you are the more leverage you have, making lifts easier.

And the smaller you are, the more compact the lift is, making it less weight to move.

So just spare me the bullshit. The average guy that works at a moving company can lift that without even one day of training. Not to mention pretty much any naturally strong man can do it.
:oldlol:

alright i think its enough internet for today

[Dr.J4ever]

50 years from now ISHers will look at this pic and be like "This is the competition LeBron James faced, fat white guys,weak era"
:lol :roll:

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BLAKE-PAU-GASOL.gif

:lol

[plowking]

So you are weak as hell. So what? Besides, the bigger you are the more leverage you have, making lifts easier.

And the smaller you are, the more compact the lift is, making it less weight to move.

So just spare me the bullshit. The average guy that works at a moving company can lift that without even one day of training. Not to mention pretty much any naturally strong man can do it.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

First time in my life I've heard that moving 500lbs for a deadlift is weak as hell. :oldlol:

Maybe we're not all in the great position to be extremely genetically gifted furniture moving men like you, but I've yet to see anyone in my gym lift 500lbs for a deadlift.

You got laughed at by another poster for this ridiculously idiotic post, and you'll continue to get laughed at, by me, and others who stumble across this idiocy. Nothing new for you though.

LOL at anyone moving that amount of weight without a day of training. People dedicate 5 days a week in the gym to this type of stuff, and some never see anything over 600lbs.

PS - You're a giant idiot.

[tomtucker]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

First time in my life I've heard that moving 500lbs for a deadlift is weak as hell. :oldlol:

Maybe we're not all in the great position to be extremely genetically gifted furniture moving men like you, but I've yet to see anyone in my gym lift 500lbs for a deadlift.

You got laughed at by another poster for this ridiculously idiotic post, and you'll continue to get laughed at, by me, and others who stumble across this idiocy. Nothing new for you though.

LOL at anyone moving that amount of weight without a day of training. People dedicate 5 days a week in the gym to this type of stuff, and some never see anything over 600lbs.

PS - You're a giant idiot.

most furniture moving men i have come across were drunken bums and/or ex. convicts..........was i just unluckly, or is that the norm ? :confusedshrug: and it was expensive companys too

[VIntageNOvel]

50 years from now ISHers will look at this pic and be like "This is the competition LeBron James faced, fat white guys,weak era"

No worry :no: , 50 years from now, a 62 years old TonyMontana will still havent come out of the basement and will defend lebron like crazy

[FireMcFailPlease]

Look at the work ethic on Marc - taking time away from his vacation to do some crunches :bowdown:

http://thatnbalotterypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/article-0-1A85F410000005DC-973_634x554.jpg
:roll:
Two things..

sweet plumbers crack, Pau...and why the hell is Marc still wearing his socks?

[Bandito]

:roll:
Two things..

sweet plumbers crack, Pau...and why the hell is Marc still wearing his socks?
Same thing I was wondering...

[Bandito]

Of course they can. :oldlol:

I've been working out for 4 years now, and I only just hit 500lbs deadlift for 1 rep about 3 or 4 months ago. But sure, everyone can do it. :oldlol:
And I'm 6'3, not 7'2 like Hibbert, so obviously my range of motion isn't going to be as much as his, so its even more impressive he can do it.

In fact, make a thread and poll the posters on here, and ask them how many can deadlift 480lbs. I guarantee you'd get less than 3 posters saying they do. In fact, half who lift probably don't even do deadlifts.
You can lift 500 lbs? Not bad. I can do barely 3 sets, 10 reps of 400 and after that it takes everything to move to next thing.:roll:

[m y t i n]

So you are weak as hell. So what? Besides, the bigger you are the more leverage you have, making lifts easier.

And the smaller you are, the more compact the lift is, making it less weight to move.

So just spare me the bullshit. The average guy that works at a moving company can lift that without even one day of training. Not to mention pretty much any naturally strong man can do it.

:facepalm

[tmacattack33]

Damn, sh*t like that kills my motivation to stay on my exercize plan.


I mean these two guys exercise daily, and do it pretty intensely 82 times a year, but they still look like that?

Fukk, so that means that even if i did kill myself in the gym and worked out almost daily (which will likely never happen...the most i can do is 3 times a week), I still wouldn't be guaranteed to look good.

[Trollsmasher]

Look at the work ethic on Marc - taking time away from his vacation to do some crunches :bowdown:

http://thatnbalotterypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/article-0-1A85F410000005DC-973_634x554.jpg
Bathing in socks?:coleman:

[FKAri]

Damn, sh*t like that kills my motivation to stay on my exercize plan.


I mean these two guys exercise daily, and do it pretty intensely 82 times a year, but they still look like that?

Fukk, so that means that even if i did kill myself in the gym and worked out almost daily (which will likely never happen...the most i can do is 3 times a week), I still wouldn't be guaranteed to look good.

But I'm guessing you're not 7' +. It's alot harder to put on mass at that height.

[alenleomessi]

Damn, sh*t like that kills my motivation to stay on my exercize plan.


I mean these two guys exercise daily, and do it pretty intensely 82 times a year, but they still look like that?

Fukk, so that means that even if i did kill myself in the gym and worked out almost daily (which will likely never happen...the most i can do is 3 times a week), I still wouldn't be guaranteed to look good.
well if you eat like crazy and have shit genetics, what do you expect..

[tmacattack33]

But I'm guessing you're not 7' +. It's alot harder to put on mass at that height.

That is true, but it's not really the mass i'm worried about. It's the fat. Marc has the mass, but he's still an average Joe with all of his body fat.

Like I can go hard as an NBA center in terms of exercise (which can never really happen due to my schedule), and there is still a chance that I'll look like Marc Gasol there when I'm done. Sh*tttttttttttt.

[kshutts1]

This thread was so much fun to read that my workout was terrible... 90 second rests in between sets kills my momentum, lol.

But it is quite clear who lifts and who does not...

And as for the Gasol brothers, not everyone that lifts nonstop will look like Blake. The definition one gets from lifting/cutting is genetic (to a point) similar to athleticism, skillset, etc.

[sc19]

Their women are in a better shape than them. And they don't have access to million dollar gyms and trainers...:facepalm

[ILLsmak]

So you are saying that is not a classic HGH and steroid body? Because it is. Notice how bloated his abdomen is.

His whole chest from below the pecs is muscular and cut, yet it is bloated.

If you just eat right and train, you are lean and muscular in this part of the body but NOT bloated. Even a big natural water gain does not do that.

What causes that is the unnatural water gain that comes from HGH abuse and the growth of organs from HGH use, as well as the steroid use that causes the organs to enlarge.

That's why his abdomen looks bloated and fat, even though it's not fat and is muscle. Because of the HGH and steroids side effects.

Well it's true these guys are on PEDs. They probably start taking them in HS, too, some of them. Like dude said, they don't lift for power? Well, then, there's no way they would have put on weight. No way KD would have bulked up. He'd be doing cardio and high rep weighs and just get more cut.

I'd argue that in most cases lifting less than 3 reps is bad for your body, period. So it's obvious why they don't do that. Doing 3-5 is still gonna get you stronger and bigger.

Lastly, the main point is... playing devil's advocate (cuz i believe Bron is on PEDs), they had a pic of melo and they were like HE FAT, and he was looking about the same. If dude drank or especially smoked a lot of weed (just saying from personal experience), he would look like that even if he was in shape. So it's not 100% from that pic that he's on PEDs. It could mean he was beasting on weed/beer.

Edit: BTW I was bench pressing/lifting @ age 14. I did it because I wanted to. That's 9th grade. The people who are bout it would. That's not even that early to lift, assuming you're not prepubescent.

-Smak