Kobe passes Wilt by shot jacking and brick laying

[Round Mound]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtjA5DGP3HA&list=PLsuQLqnitVCH-KGQHW2j_sA4M4jV3xYvK

Facts! :applause:

[Marchesk]

Kobe the GOAT chucker :oldlol:

[IncarceratedBob]

The funny thing is that if Kobe played in Wilts era Kobe would make Wilts accomplishments look like a joke

[BlueCrayon]

The funny thing is that if Kobe played in Wilts era Kobe would make Wilts accomplishments look like a joke

You're going to penalize Wilt for being born earlier?

[coin24]

Wilt. Goat choker and and even bigger piggybacker than bronzey:lol
Kobe>>>>>>>

[Marchesk]

The funny thing is that if Kobe played in Wilts era Kobe would make Wilts accomplishments look like a joke

Would he shoot better than his career 45.4% while averaging more than 50 ppg?

Kobe would make more free throws, but he wouldn't have a three point line. Let's give him 10 pts a game on the line. He's still going to have to jack up 40+ shots a game. But it's a faster pace.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Kobe doesn't get 20+ rebounds a game. Nor does he ever lead the league in assists. Or shoot 72.7% for a season (Wilt's last). He also won't be unofficially blocking 6-8 shots a game.

Kobe also won't have the advantage of palming and carrying the ball. But he's going to have advantages over most of the perimeter players. Guys like Wilt, Russell and Thurmond will still be waiting for him around the rim. So it's not an automatic drive and score for him all the time.

[Segatti]

Kobe career average TS%: .555

This is probably better than the league's average in any year. You have to be retarded to think Kobe was "shot jacking".

[Marchesk]

Wilt. Goat choker and and even bigger piggybacker than bronzey:lol
Kobe>>>>>>>

Even during his chucking days, Wilt was hitting on over 50%, with the exception of his rookie season. And back then, the league average was quite a bit under .500. The year Wilt average 50 a game, then next best FG percentage guy on his team was at 47.4%.

According to the video, Wilt had a lot higher "True Percentage" than Jordan. Of course, Wilt didn't shoot from the outside.

Anyway, Wilt finished at .540 for his career with a 30.1 average. Not bad for a volume scorer.

[Marchesk]

This is probably better than the league's average in any year. You have to be retarded to think Kobe was "shot jacking".

Shot jacking meaning inefficient scorer. Compare him to Lebron, Durant and Jordan, since they are efficient perimeter scorers.

[Jameerthefear]

did op just really link to a bruceblitz video when making an argument? :roll: :roll:

[Segatti]

Shot jacking meaning inefficient scorer. Compare him to Lebron, Durant and Jordan, since they are efficient perimeter scorers.

One of these guys is so efficient that he doesn't even try to hit half-court shots when the time is running out.

[3LiftHeatCurse]

The funny thing is that if Kobe played in Wilts era Kobe would make Wilts accomplishments look like a joke


No, Kobe wouldn't. Because if he was born in Wilt's era, then Michael Jordan wasn't in the NBA yet. And since Kobe is an unoriginal, poor FG% generic vanilla copycat of another player's greatness (MJ), then Kobe wouldn't be able to copycat an MJ that doesn't exist yet.


So, the best Kobe could do is maybe copycat Jerry West? Problem is, Jerry West's 1960's statistics shit all over 2000's Kobe statistics. I find it hard to believe a 1960's Kobe would be able to copycat Jerry West effectively either.

[Derka]

Yeah but he's gonna pass Wilt unless he ends his career early, sooooo...

[Heavincent]

bruceblitz :roll: :roll: :roll:

[OldSkoolball#52]

It's pretty well known that Kobe is the least dominant, most overrated of any "all time great".


Kobe was a selfish, me-first shot jacker who could from time to time put up giant scoring outputs, but it never had any correlation to whether or not his team won. He pretty much did it for his own selfish purposes. His team had a much higher win % on those rare occasions he somehow didnt ballhog all night. This was a well known fact, and yet he still refused to pass 95% of the time, all the time.

Guys like Barkley and Dirk were actually more efficient and consistently dominant from game-to-game. Kobe had tons of clunkers, which got ignored because on the nights when his excessive shot heaving was actually going in the basket, his style of play "looked really cool".


Kobe is absolutely, positively, not even REMOTELY a top 15 impact player in the NBA on an in-game, game-by-game basis. Kobe defines the word volume. You take more shots than any other player by far, some statistics will add up over time in your favor and make you look good. He's basically a very determined and very green-lighted Jamal Crawford or Carmelo Anthony. Calling him Top 10 is so silly its laughable.

[Round Mound]

Would he shoot better than his career 45.4% while averaging more than 50 ppg?

Kobe would make more free throws, but he wouldn't have a three point line. Let's give him 10 pts a game on the line. He's still going to have to jack up 40+ shots a game. But it's a faster pace.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Kobe doesn't get 20+ rebounds a game. Nor does he ever lead the league in assists. Or shoot 72.7% for a season (Wilt's last). He also won't be unofficially blocking 6-8 shots a game.

Kobe also won't have the advantage of palming and carrying the ball. But he's going to have advantages over most of the perimeter players. Guys like Wilt, Russell and Thurmond will still be waiting for him around the rim. So it's not an automatic drive and score for him all the time.

:applause:

[Round Mound]

It's pretty well known that Kobe is the least dominant, most overrated of any "all time great".


Kobe was a selfish, me-first shot jacker who could from time to time put up giant scoring outputs, but it never had any correlation to whether or not his team won. He pretty much did it for his own selfish purposes. His team had a much higher win % on those rare occasions he somehow didnt ballhog all night. This was a well known fact, and yet he still refused to pass 95% of the time, all the time.

Guys like Barkley and Dirk were actually more efficient and consistently dominant from game-to-game. Kobe had tons of clunkers, which got ignored because on the nights when his excessive shot heaving was actually going in the basket, his style of play "looked really cool".


Kobe is absolutely, positively, not even REMOTELY a top 15 impact player in the NBA on an in-game, game-by-game basis. Kobe defines the word volume. You take more shots than any other player by far, some statistics will add up over time in your favor and make you look good. He's basically a very determined and very green-lighted Jamal Crawford or Carmelo Anthony. Calling him Top 10 is so silly its laughable.

:applause:

[ispin69]

Kobetards = wut are facts? nah nah let's deflect and change the subject

[coin24]

Kobetards = wut are facts? nah nah let's deflect and change the subject

Stat nerds. Ruining basketball since forever:facepalm

[Nashty]

Everyone should know that Kobe is just an overrated chucker who got carried to 5 rings.

[no pun intended]

Opened the link. Saw it was Bruce Blitz. Closed the link.

[TheBigVeto]

It's pretty well known that Kobe is the least dominant, most overrated of any "all time great".


Kobe was a selfish, me-first shot jacker who could from time to time put up giant scoring outputs, but it never had any correlation to whether or not his team won. He pretty much did it for his own selfish purposes. His team had a much higher win % on those rare occasions he somehow didnt ballhog all night. This was a well known fact, and yet he still refused to pass 95% of the time, all the time.

Guys like Barkley and Dirk were actually more efficient and consistently dominant from game-to-game. Kobe had tons of clunkers, which got ignored because on the nights when his excessive shot heaving was actually going in the basket, his style of play "looked really cool".


Kobe is absolutely, positively, not even REMOTELY a top 15 impact player in the NBA on an in-game, game-by-game basis. Kobe defines the word volume. You take more shots than any other player by far, some statistics will add up over time in your favor and make you look good. He's basically a very determined and very green-lighted Jamal Crawford or Carmelo Anthony. Calling him Top 10 is so silly its laughable.

You are correct sir

[Sharmer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtjA5DGP3HA&list=PLsuQLqnitVCH-KGQHW2j_sA4M4jV3xYvK

Facts! :applause:


well known fact :cheers:

[eSOL]

:roll:


Kobe stans getting tore up!

:bowdown:

[Ron Jeremy]

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/11279544/img/Gifs-Animados-de-Animes/13219---animated-gif-pokemon-tagme.gif

[KOBE143]

Kobe >>>>> Barkley

umad?

[Magic 32]

You could literally take a screenshot of any bruceblitz video, and it could be used as a "loser in basement" meme. :oldlol:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

bruceblitz = f@ggot

[poido123]

While I tend to agree that he has a tendancy to overshoot sometimes and shoot bad shots, if he wasn't doing what he does his team would be that much worse.

It's a bit disrespectful to Kobe, he brings passion and commitment to the game like no other currently playing in the league.

[Sharmer]

:roll:


Kobe stans getting tore up!

:bowdown:

:applause:

[Human Error]

OP nailed it. A 5 star thread.

[Magic 32]

:roll:


Kobe stans getting tore up!

:bowdown:

But it's bruceblitz.

That's a non sequitur.

[Doranku]

Aye yo OP, how many rings Barkley got? :roll:

[Unbiased_one]

One of these guys is so efficient that he doesn't even try to hit half-court shots when the time is running out.

It's a pity the facts disagree with that particular opinion...

Guess which one of lebron and Kobe took more half court or more shots this year? The former. Check basketball reference if you don't believe me.

[Psileas]

Would he shoot better than his career 45.4% while averaging more than 50 ppg?

Kobe would make more free throws, but he wouldn't have a three point line. Let's give him 10 pts a game on the line. He's still going to have to jack up 40+ shots a game. But it's a faster pace.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Kobe doesn't get 20+ rebounds a game. Nor does he ever lead the league in assists. Or shoot 72.7% for a season (Wilt's last). He also won't be unofficially blocking 6-8 shots a game.

Kobe also won't have the advantage of palming and carrying the ball. But he's going to have advantages over most of the perimeter players. Guys like Wilt, Russell and Thurmond will still be waiting for him around the rim. So it's not an automatic drive and score for him all the time.

Correct. Not to mention that having a guard average anywhere near 50 with average scoring efficiency wouldn't likely lead the team very high. All his teammates would have become spot shooters, with all the consequences that follow this.
Anyway, Kobe making Wilt's records a joke is a joke by itself.

[Vienceslav]

Came in expecting Bruce Blitz, saw that it indeed is Bruce Blitz, wrote unnecessary post, left thread.
KG>Barkley btw.

[BBallZen83]

You could literally take a screenshot of any bruceblitz video, and it could be used as a "loser in basement" meme. :oldlol:
Insightful counterpoint.

[Magic 32]

Insightful counterpoint.

Once you get into a debate with Bruce....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnkFYTSeT_U

[branslowski]

Aww, so cute how Kobe haters gather together:oldlol:

5 rings 2 finals MVPs
10+All defensive teams
10+AllNBA Teams
10+Allstar games

28career gamewinners
Top 5 in Total playoff points

The greatest scorer this generation has witnessed (with scoring being the most important part of the game).

Already generally accepted by majority of the world to be top 10. Most have him in that 7-9 range.

:lol We ain't got no worries.


Meanwhile, Barkley, no rings.:roll:

[LAZERUSS]

Longevity records are fine, as long as they are taken in proper context. For example, Don Sutton won over 300 games in his career, while Sandy Koufax only won 165. But, Sutton only had had one 20 win season (and that was just barely), while Koufax had three of 25+. And Sutton was seldom even the best pitcher on his own team's, and in fact, was well down the rotation in some. Meanwhile, Koufax just dominated the league from '63 thru '66. I always marvel at Koufax pitching consecutive complete game shutouts in the '65 World Series, and on only two days rest. In any case, no one in their right mind would ever take Sutton over Koufax in any pitching discussions.

[branslowski]

Longevity records are fine, as long as they are taken in proper context. For example, Don Sutton won over 300 games in his career, while Sandy Koufax only won 165. But, Sutton only had had one 20 win season (and that was just barely), while Koufax had three of 25+. And Sutton was seldom even the best pitcher on his own team's, and in fact, was well down the rotation in some. Meanwhile, Koufax just dominated the league from '63 thru '66. I always marvel at Koufax pitching consecutive complete game shutouts in the '65 World Series, and on only two days rest. In any case, no one in their right mind would ever take Sutton over Koufax in any pitching discussions.

True, but this ain't baseball and Don Sutton wasn't a world Icon like Kobe, Jordan, and LeBron...Also personally watching an NBA player score 81pts in a game, and even 62pts in 3quarters on another occasion is sheer dominance. It's like watching Barry Bonds hit 4 homers in a game and you say "hes on another level than his counterparts.

[chazzy]

You guys get so caught up in your hate for a player, that you need to step back and realize you're wasting all this effort to criticize someone for scoring 30 THOUSAND POINTS! :oldlol:

[chazzy]

And of all people, you're gonna use the shotjacker label in comparison to WILT?? :oldlol: Multiple seasons over 30 shots a game.. and efficiency wise:

Kobe 55.5 TS%
Wilt 54.7 TS%

So a guy who takes 3 less shots on a per game basis, AND is more efficient, is supposedly the "inefficient shot jacker" in this comparison? :oldlol:

[LAZERUSS]

And of all people, you're gonna use the shotjacker label in comparison to WILT?? :oldlol: Multiple seasons over 30 shots a game.. and efficiency wise:

Kobe 55.5 TS%
Wilt 54.7 TS%

So a guy who takes 3 less shots on a per game basis, AND is more efficient, is supposedly the "inefficient shot jacker" in this comparison? :oldlol:

TS% is a flawed stat for a variety of reasons.

Let me give you a quick example...

Tyson Chandler in 2011-12. He shot .679 from the field, .689 from the line, and went 0-2 from the arc (obviously .000). How the hell does that add up to .708 TS%? It doesn't. It is a ridiculous formula that can't be explained.

I understand that 3pt shooting affects TS%. A player going 2-6 from the arc shoots the same as a player who shoots 3-6 from inside it. It can be accounted for. But when a player doesn't make one 3pt attempt, and his FT% and FG%'s are lower than his TS%, there is something very flawed in that stat.

Secondly, TS% doesn't take into account the fact that Chamberlain, along with Shaq, were, by far, the two greatest players to get "and-one" shots. Or essentially "bonus" FTs.

Furthermore, Kobe has averaged 466 made FTs per season in his NBA career, while Wilt averaged 432 in his. AND, because of WILT, Chamberlain's TEAMs routinely led the NBA in FTAs. And in his '67 season they obliterated the league in that department. Conversely, after Shaq's departure, LA has never been even close to the leaders, and in fact, have been less than the league average on occasion.

And finally, Kobe has played in an era, because of the 3pt shot, in which the leagues have shot a considerably higher eFG% than when Wilt played. In Chamberlain's era, he played in leagues that had eFG%'s of as low as .395, and many below .441, with a high .460. Kobe has played in an era of as high as .498.

And eFG% takes into account 3pt shooting. Wilt's career eFG% is .540. Kobe's is .487. And here again, in leagues that shot far worse than Kobe's.

[kennethgriffin]

kind of a dumb video when you factor in kobe took 4 times as many three pointers as michael jordan

kobe averaged 4 less shots per game than michael jordan

kobe played his 1st 2 years on the bench

kobe played his first 8 years with shaq

kobe plays farther from the basket. wilt was beside the net. jordan mid range. and kobe long range. all different types of shooters


a longevity record does exactly that. shows longevity. kobe has it. wilt and mj never put up huge scoring seasons after their 13th seasons..

kobes put up over his career average in his 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th and soon to be 18th, 19th, 20th seasons

he will never average under 26-27ppg till hes finished

thats greatness

[LAZERUSS]

kind of a dumb video when you factor in kobe took 4 times as many three pointers as michael jordan

kobe averaged 4 less shots per game than michael jordan

kobe played his 1st 2 years on the bench

kobe played his first 8 years with shaq

kobe plays farther from the basket. wilt was beside the net. jordan mid range. and kobe long range. all different types of shooters


a longevity record does exactly that. shows longevity. kobe has it. wilt and mj never put up huge scoring seasons after their 13th seasons..

kobes put up over his career average in his 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th and soon to be 18th, 19th, 20th seasons

he will never average under 26-27ppg till hes finished

thats greatness

And Wilt had to wait until his college class graduated before he could join the NBA. Give him another four years in his NBA career, and he likely would have put up anothe 8000 points.

[kennethgriffin]

And Wilt had to wait until his college class graduated before he could join the NBA. Give him another four years in his NBA career, and he likely would have put up anothe 8000 points.


no one cares about wilt or jordan... its kareem who kobes worried about

:lol

besides.. lol@ 1960's scoring records.. if kobe played back then he'd be at 50k right now

[Marchesk]

no one cares about wilt or jordan... its kareem who kobes worried about

Yeah, because Kobe will never finish ahead of them in the GOAT list. He can try for Kareem, but that's pretty doubtful. He should just be happy Shaq didn't keep in shape.

[SCdac]

Kobe is a brick laying extraordinaire obsessed with scoring records.

http://www.easymemes.com/uploads/memes/0362_UkHFcm9rP1hnSGm.jpg

[Doranku]

TS% is a flawed stat for a variety of reasons.

Let me give you a quick example...

Tyson Chandler in 2011-12. He shot .679 from the field, .689 from the line, and went 0-2 from the arc (obviously .000). How the hell does that add up to .708 TS%? It doesn't. It is a ridiculous formula that can't be explained.

I understand that 3pt shooting affects TS%. A player going 2-6 from the arc shoots the same as a player who shoots 3-6 from inside it. It can be accounted for. But when a player doesn't make one 3pt attempt, and his FT% and FG%'s are lower than his TS%, there is something very flawed in that stat.

Secondly, TS% doesn't take into account the fact that Chamberlain, along with Shaq, were, by far, the two greatest players to get "and-one" shots. Or essentially "bonus" FTs.

Furthermore, Kobe has averaged 466 made FTs per season in his NBA career, while Wilt averaged 432 in his. AND, because of WILT, Chamberlain's TEAMs routinely led the NBA in FTAs. And in his '67 season they obliterated the league in that department. Conversely, after Shaq's departure, LA has never been even close to the leaders, and in fact, have been less than the league average on occasion.

And finally, Kobe has played in an era, because of the 3pt shot, in which the leagues have shot a considerably higher eFG% than when Wilt played. In Chamberlain's era, he played in leagues that had eFG%'s of as low as .395, and many below .441, with a high .460. Kobe has played in an era of as high as .498.

And eFG% takes into account 3pt shooting. Wilt's career eFG% is .540. Kobe's is .487. And here again, in leagues that shot far worse than Kobe's.

So using a stat that completely omits FT shooting is better than using a stat that takes FT shooting into account but has a weird anomaly for players that don't make 3s?

Obviously Wilt was more efficient from the field; 9 times out of 10, big men are more efficient scorers from the field than perimeter players.

We're talking about overall scoring though, which includes free throws. Why do you want to completely ignore FT shooting as if it doesn't exist?

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe is a brick laying extraordinaire obsessed with scoring records.

http://www.easymemes.com/uploads/memes/0362_UkHFcm9rP1hnSGm.jpg

kobe won 5 championships and carved out atleast a top 6-7 all time ranking playing as a high volume shooter

so if it aint broke. "____ ___ __" ?

[intrinsic]

TS% is a flawed stat for a variety of reasons.

Let me give you a quick example...

Tyson Chandler in 2011-12. He shot .679 from the field, .689 from the line, and went 0-2 from the arc (obviously .000). How the hell does that add up to .708 TS%? It doesn't. It is a ridiculous formula that can't be explained.



I'll explain it to you in one sentence: TS% is not restricted to [0,1.00] the same way FG%/3P%/FT% are

[oh the horror]

So using a stat that completely omits FT shooting is better than using a stat that takes FT shooting into account but has a weird anomaly for players that don't make 3s?

Obviously Wilt was more efficient from the field; 9 times out of 10, big men are more efficient scorers from the field than perimeter players.

We're talking about overall scoring though, which includes free throws. Why do you want to completely ignore FT shooting as if it doesn't exist?



because it doesnt work for his bs?

[PHILA]

Kobe 55.5 TS%
Wilt 54.7 TS%

Let us look at their prime playoff scoring and efficiency relative to league average.


Wilt (1960-68): 29.3 PPG, 47.7 MPG, +4.2 TS% (*Excluding 1963)



From another forum below:


Playoffs when they averaged at least 20 PPG


Kobe 27.7 PPG, 41.5 MPG, +1.2 TS%
Jordan 33.5 PPG, 41.7 PPG, +3.1 TS%
Shaq 27.2 PPG, 40.4 MPG, +4.3 TS%
Hakeem 27.3 PPG, 40.7 MPG, +3.8 TS%
LeBron 28.1 PPG, 43.1 MPG, +2.9 TS%

[LAZERUSS]

So using a stat that completely omits FT shooting is better than using a stat that takes FT shooting into account but has a weird anomaly for players that don't make 3s?

Obviously Wilt was more efficient from the field; 9 times out of 10, big men are more efficient scorers from the field than perimeter players.

We're talking about overall scoring though, which includes free throws. Why do you want to completely ignore FT shooting as if it doesn't exist?

I am not omittig FT%. But, there are a number of variables that are involved.

You can't simply look at total FT% and say that a player is more impactful from the line. Steve Kerr was a marvelous FT shooter. He also had several SEASONS in which he made less FTs than what Wilt made in ONE GAME.

Shaq shooting 18-39 from the line is far more impactful than another player going 4-4. Why? Because he is not only getting himself into the bonus sooner, he is also getting his teammates into the bonus, as well.

Wilt has been ripped for his playoff FT shooting, but his team's were generally taking, and making, more FTs (and sometimes by huge margins), than their opponents.

You want a great example? In Wilt's 68-69 season, the Lakers led the NBA in FTAs. Early on in the 69-70 season, in game nine, Chamberlain shredded his knee, and missed 70 games. The Lakers dropped to 12th, in a 14 team league, in FTAs. BUT, Chamberlain returned for the playoffs, and they shot 200 more FTAs than the next best team, and made 93 more than the next best team.

As you can see, Chamberlain's IMPACT went well beyond his own FTAs. Not only that, but how many of the opposing players were either sitting on the bench, or playing "matador" defense because of foul trouble? Wilt and his teammates benefitted from that.

And once again, Wilt (and Shaq) were easily the most dominant "and-one" players in NBA history. They could still dunk the ball with three players draped all over them. So, those FTs were bonus FTs. Even if they missed them, they had already scored two points.

So, granted Kobe was a significantly better FT shooter than Chamberlain, but on a seasonal basis, Kobe has been making 466 to Wilt's 432. That is not a dramatic difference. And once again, Wilt's IMPACT at the line was considerably greater than the mere FT%'s.

[JellyBean]

And? U act like that is a bad thing or something. The history books don't care how you passed a legend. They just post who you are ahead of and who is front of you. No more no less. This other junk "shot jacking" and "brick laying" ...who cares.

[b1imtf]

did op just really link to a bruceblitz video when making an argument? :roll: :roll:
This LOL

[PickernRoller]

Damn, taking notes from Blitz agenda....

OP is more retarded than I though. You have to be a moron to lower yourself and digest Bruce. But hey, if you're not, you're salty. Damn I love salt.

[jongib369]

kobe won 5 championships and carved out atleast a top 6-7 all time ranking playing as a high volume shooter

so if it aint broke. "____ ___ __" ?



Now it is...

[imdaman99]

brucebutch has no reason to be insecure about kobe one day being greater than mj, because that train passed years ago. yet he continues the insecurity issues because right now, kobe gets more attention than mj does. talk about a complex :facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

brucebutch has no reason to be insecure about kobe one day being greater than mj, because that train passed years ago. yet he continues the insecurity issues because right now, kobe gets more attention than mj does. talk about a complex :facepalm

you act like its an impossibility for kobe to pass mj still

hes only 34 years old.

kobe could get a few guys next offseason with that 50 mill in cap space and run off 3 more titles before hes finished. you never know

one thing for sure is he's gonna pass kareem for all time scoring

he's not out of it just yet


this is how a conversation would go if kobe passed mj in rings

"jordans better..."

"no kobes better"

"jordan has more ppg"

"kobe is all time leading scorer though"

"jordan has more mvps"

"kobe has more rings though"

"jordan .... has...... a movie with bugs bunny"

"kobe has the all time record for 1st team all nba's, 1st team defense's, playoff scoring, allstar games, three pointers in a game and dropped 81 points"

"jordan.... has ... a free throw dunk"

"kobe has more rings and the all time scoring record bro.... give up

"ok"

[KG215]

you act like its an impossibility for kobe to pass mj still

hes only 34 years old.

kobe could get a few guys next offseason with that 50 mill in cap space and run off 3 more titles before hes finished. you never know

one thing for sure is he's gonna pass kareem for all time scoring

he's not out of it just yet


this is how a conversation would go if kobe passed mj in rings

"jordans better..."

"no kobes better"

"jordan has more ppg"

"kobe is all time leading scorer though"

"jordan has more mvps"

"kobe has more rings though"

"jordan .... has...... a movie with bugs bunny"

"kobe has the all time record for 1st team all nba's, 1st team defense's, playoff scoring, allstar games, three pointers in a game and dropped 81 points"

"jordan.... has ... a free throw dunk"

"kobe has more rings and the all time scoring record bro.... give up

"ok"
Go ahead and keep being delusional. It's entertaining as hell during the slow days in the dead of summer.

[VIntageNOvel]

hey guys, breaking news: centre shoot better percentage than perimeter player :rolleyes:

ISH :facepalm getting dumber and dumber every second

[Round Mound]

kind of a dumb video when you factor in kobe took 4 times as many three pointers as michael jordan

kobe averaged 4 less shots per game than michael jordan

kobe played his 1st 2 years on the bench

kobe played his first 8 years with shaq

kobe plays farther from the basket. wilt was beside the net. jordan mid range. and kobe long range. all different types of shooters


a longevity record does exactly that. shows longevity. kobe has it. wilt and mj never put up huge scoring seasons after their 13th seasons..

kobes put up over his career average in his 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th and soon to be 18th, 19th, 20th seasons

he will never average under 26-27ppg till hes finished

thats greatness

:roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :no:

[B]Playing With Shaq Getting Doubled and Tripled Leaves Open Shooters For Easier Shots, Where Kobe The Chucker Fits In. Kobe

[Vienceslav]

[QUOTE=Round Mound]:roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :no:

[B]Playing With Shaq Getting Doubled and Tripled Leaves Open Shooters For Easier Shots, Where Kobe The Chucker Fits In. Kobe

[andgar923]

Why do you seem like a reasonable poster and all of the sudden turn into a 8 year old, speaking of 8 years when it comes to Kobe.
I hope you don't feel like Barkley has a case over him all time and you want o bring him down, that would be unfortunate.

He brings up a very legit statement, don't see why he has to be accused of being an 8 year old.

It is YOUR response that is immature.

[branslowski]

[QUOTE=Round Mound]:roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :no:

[B]Playing With Shaq Getting Doubled and Tripled Leaves Open Shooters For Easier Shots, Where Kobe The Chucker Fits In. Kobe