The Chicago Bulls

[SilkkTheShocker]

I know every year the Heat are the supposed to be worried about them according to the board. But I just don't see what other people see in them. Their best player is mentally weak. Their coach runs his players into the ground. And all their best players are injury prone. Not to mention their offense is tough to watch. I mean is this really the team thats going to knock the Heat off? Im more cautious of Indiana, personally. I just can't see a Rose led team knocking them off.

[SpecialQue]

they will because Lebron sux lol

[imdaman99]

yet you would be a hardcore bulls fan if lebron chose to be on that team.

give it a rest and find new panty drawers to jack off in

[Le Shaqtus]

I know you constantly put Rose down, but he is a fantastic player and a great point guard. He's not dumb like Westbrook who jacks up mid range shots at the beginning of the shot clock (who everyone likes to compare him to)

Noah is one of the top defensive centers in the league, Jimmy Butler is on the rise as a great defender and can also shoot the 3 decently, Boozer while a defensive liability is still good offensive player and is good rebounder. Deng is also a great player all around (Though not the LeBron stopper people claim him to be).

Their bench isn't great though, but I still think they're a threat in the east.

[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

Bulls aren't getting past Miami unless they get a second scorer who can create for himself and others to compliment Rose.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I know you constantly put Rose down, but he is a fantastic player and a great point guard. He's not dumb like Westbrook who jacks up mid range shots at the beginning of the shot clock (who everyone likes to compare him to)

Noah is one of the top defensive centers in the league, Jimmy Butler is on the rise as a great defender and can also shoot the 3 decently, Boozer while a defensive liability is still good offensive player and is good rebounder. Deng is also a great player all around (Though not the LeBron stopper people claim him to be).

Their bench isn't great though, but I still think they're a threat in the east.

They got a nice squad. I just don't see them taking 4 out of 7 from Miami with Rose leading the charge.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

1. Heat
2. Nets
3. Pacers
4. Bulls

Only 4 contenders in the east.

[DaSeba5]

Bulls aren't getting past Miami unless they get a second scorer who can create for himself and others to compliment Rose.

This unless Miami has a major injury

[SilkkTheShocker]

they will because Lebron sux lol


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[Twiens]

Noah / Nazr
Boozer / Gibson
Deng / Dunleavy
Butler / Hinrich?
Rose / Teague?

A little more firepower off that bench at SG/C and they could beat Miami. Nate Rob coming back?

[SpecialQue]

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Fine. He's pretty good at sucking dick

[SilkkTheShocker]

Fine. He's pretty good at sucking dick


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[STATUTORY]

lets be real, derrick rose is done. Media always has like a 2 year lag before they finally allow the reputation to catchup to the player. So they will pretend he still top tier PG when he gonna be Knicks Steve Franchis

he never gonna fully trust that knee or play with the same reckless abandon. Watch this fool spotting up from 3 like he jj reddick next season.

bulls need to cut bait.

[Kuma]

yet you would be a hardcore bulls fan if lebron chose to be on that team.

give it a rest and find new panty drawers to jack off in

And the Bulls would be a lot better team with Lebron, so he would be unlikely to say they aren't as good as people think because they would clearly be better than they are now (if they had Lebron). A bit of a pointless thing for you to note in the context of this thread.

I honestly don't understand the hype around the Bulls team. I think it's unlikely Rose returns as good as he was (at least not immediately), and even then Lebron and the Heat walked past the Bulls with Rose in 2011 with a team that had a much worse bench than he current one.

[ReturnofJPR]

Bulls aren't getting past Miami unless they get a second scorer who can create for himself and others to compliment Rose.

bS

Heat can't make 4 nba finals in a row, too many minutes

[SilkkTheShocker]

If the Bulls can swing a trade for a LeBron James, I could definitely seem them finally being able to beat the Heat. But that's the only way.

[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

bS

Heat can't make 4 nba finals in a row, too many minutes

So your only argument is that the Heat will be playing too many minutes?

Well it doesn't matter how many minutes they play during the regular season because they can just roll out their bench players when they only have competition from 4 teams in the East (Nets, Bulls, Pacers, Knicks) and every other team outside of that will be cake walk from them.

Oh and even if they do play too many minutes according to you and don't make the finals, Pacers will beat the Bulls if they match up for the same reason the Heat did in 2011. (Put Paul George on Rose and he'll shut him down entirely and the Bulls won't be able to score in crunch time).

[Bandito]

If the Bulls can swing a trade for a LeBron James, I could definitely seem them finally being able to beat the Heat. But that's the only way.
So your argument is that he's so good that nobody can't stop him? Sure tell that to the Spurs in which they stopped him for 5 games and 3 and 3/4 of a quarter.:roll:

I think the Bulls have a chance to beat the Heat depending of how Rose comes back and how he plays. He has to get a better shot and be even more dominant than he was before. This team is better than last year and 2011. Unless Wade is so injured he can't do anything at all or changes his game I don't think the Heat are going to win so easily. Last playoffs the Bulls were a Rose away from wining.

[kshutts1]

So your argument is that he's so good that nobody can't stop him? Sure tell that to the Spurs in which they stopped him for 5 games and 3 and 3/4 of a quarter.:roll:

I think the Bulls have a chance to beat the Heat depending of how Rose comes back and how he plays. He has to get a better shot and be even more dominant than he was before. This team is better than last year and 2011. Unless Wade is so injured he can't do anything at all or changes his game I don't think the Heat are going to win so easily. Last playoffs the Bulls were a Rose away from wining.
I'm a huge Bulls fan, but you can't really be serious, can you? The Bulls played them tough, sure, but the Heat still ended up winning the title. Don't you think that if Rose was healthy that the Heat would've taken the Bulls more seriously?

I just don't buy this notion that health will cure all of the Bulls' problems. As long as both rosters are healthy, which is asking a lot on both counts, the Heat are just flat-out more talented and built better.

[tazb]

Word they're overrated. But since that team has one of the greatest coaches in the NBA in Thibs with one of the greatest defensive schemes in the league, and Jimmy Butler being an above average defender that can 'trouble' LeBron, that makes them kinda scary. Dude could coach the Bobcats into the playoffs. Keep in mind that this has nothing to do with point-fraud Rose, dude is trash.

Also, I agree with the Pacers' being more trouble to the Heat than the Bulls.

[Straight_Ballin]

Wow is this even debateable? No injuries = Pacers in the finals.
Bookmarked thread.

[poido123]

Perfect thread to bump after this season.

Here's something I wrote in the Bulls forum;

2011, Heat had everything go their way, all games were decided by less than 10 points with the exception of game 1 which we blew them out. Boozer and Noah looked injured, none of our shooters were a threat, which allowed the Heat to gamble defensively and force the Bulls team to shoot jumpshots, cut off Rose's driving lanes and protected the key. There's no guarantee that Dunleavy can't go cold like Korver did, however Dunleavy has a higher basketball IQ and has more to his game than just his shooting, he makes good decisions. It helps that we don't have Bogans anymore, Heat didn't have to worry about our outside shot for the most part. We now have Butler who can defend Lebron very well, and contribute offensively too.

Heat have been hanging on for the most part. Pacers took them to 7 games(We are a better team), Spurs basically won in 6(Ray Allen saved the Heat), so Heat do have troubles with teams that have quality bigmen.

Since 2011 is all we can go by, we have improved as a team defensively and have added some pieces that will be alot more helpful than what we had back then. Sure we lost Asik, but when you're in the playoffs your starting lineup is more important as they play the big minutes. Butler and Dunleavy addition is better than losing Asik, Bogans and Korver IMO. The natural improvement of Noah, Rose(he will have a better jumpshot and rounded game), Butler another year I think is enough to get over the Heat.

Overrated my ass, this team has been playing together and built chemistry over the years. I have no doubt that Miami will have fits trying to beat a healthy Bulls team.


Bump this thread, I'm calling it. Bulls to beat Heat(without injury)

[Dengness9]

The best part of the 2013-2014 season will be the return of Derrick Rose.

Miami hasn't had to deal with him for 2 years now. Bulls are going to be the Heat's top competition next year, period. Not just in the East.

Im not gonna sit here and write an essay on the Chicago Bulls. Everyone just be ready for this team. No other team is hungrier and more united.

It's easy for the ***** hearted trolls to talk shit about Derrick when he is down.

Well he is about to be back and its not gonna be so easy to act tough.

Sillk's a bitch. **** em. Can't forget to say that too.

[poido123]

The best part of the 2013-2014 season will be the return of Derrick Rose.

Miami hasn't had to deal with him for 2 years now. Bulls are going to be the Heat's top competition next year, period. Not just in the East.

Im not gonna sit here and write an essay on the Chicago Bulls. Everyone just be ready for this team. No other team is hungrier and more united.

It's easy for the ***** hearted trolls to talk shit about Derrick when he is down.

Well he is about to be back and its not gonna be so easy to act tough.

Sillk's a bitch. **** em. Can't forget to say that too.

:cheers:

A bulls vs Heat matchup this year will be one of the most anticipated battles in a while. It doesn't take a genious to see that Bulls are their strongest foe.

Time to bring the pain this year Bulls :pimp:

[KyrieTheFuture]

When was the last time a team won a championship with 0 three point threats? That's their biggest problem they need a 2 who can seriously space the floor. Imagine Rose with more space...incredible. Unfortunately, they have a cheap owner and that probably won't happen.

[jzek]

They had their best chance the past couple of years. Their roster isn't as good anymore so I don't see them as a legitimate threat. Bigger threat to MIA right now are in this order:

1 - Indiana
2 - Brooklyn

No other team can beat the Heat in a 7-game series in the East. Only reason the Nets is included is because of Terry, PP, and KG and these three have a combined 445,504,055 playoff experience.

[jzek]

The best part of the 2013-2014 season will be the return of Derrick Rose.

Miami hasn't had to deal with him for 2 years now. Bulls are going to be the Heat's top competition next year, period. Not just in the East.

Im not gonna sit here and write an essay on the Chicago Bulls. Everyone just be ready for this team. No other team is hungrier and more united.

It's easy for the ***** hearted trolls to talk shit about Derrick when he is down.

Well he is about to be back and its not gonna be so easy to act tough.

Sillk's a bitch. **** em. Can't forget to say that too.

Last time these two met with a healthy Rose, didn't MIA beat them in 5 games? And that was with MVP Rose too not this post-injury Rose.

[nathanjizzle]

lebron james will be dethroned this season, and he will dwindle away for the rest of his career being in roses shadow.

[Dengness9]

When was the last time a team won a championship with 0 three point threats? That's their biggest problem they need a 2 who can seriously space the floor. Imagine Rose with more space...incredible. Unfortunately, they have a cheap owner and that probably won't happen.


absolute valid point. But Butler/Deng/Dunleavy has shooting and length.

The wild card of the whole situation is if Nate doesn't get a deal desirable enough to take the Bulls 20% raise on the vet minimum.

FWIW, I don't think Nate comes back to Chicago. BUUTTTTTTTT, if he does....
Heat have two offensive beasts to deal with in Rose/Nate....

and you can play those two together, nate guards Heat's PG and Rose on Wade.

[KyrieTheFuture]

lebron james will be dethroned this season, and he will dwindle away for the rest of his career being in roses shadow.

Your user title is the perfect explanation for this post. Put the bottle down.

[poido123]

Last time these two met with a healthy Rose, didn't MIA beat them in 5 games? And that was with MVP Rose too not this post-injury Rose.

:biggums:

Rose wasn't shutdown by Lebron, that's a myth. We aren't the same team as 2011. The Heat dared our team to shoot jumpers and blocked off the driving lanes and the paint so that Deng and Rose couldn't drive the ball. Now, That worked for that series and proved to be effective, but you can't do that against this team now. You can't sag off Butler as he can hit an outside shot, unlike Bogans. We now have Dunleavy, a very good shooter and decision maker, we had Korver in 2011 who wasn't effective that series and is a liability if his 3's arent hitting. Rose's jump shot will be improved as he comes back, and he's had time to access how the team runs and how he can be effective.

Noah is improved, Rose will be improved, Butler will be improved and unlike 2011, we had nobody to contain Lebron, Deng had a lot of troubles with him.

[Dengness9]

They had their best chance the past couple of years. Their roster isn't as good anymore so I don't see them as a legitimate threat. Bigger threat to MIA right now are in this order:

1 - Indiana
2 - Brooklyn

No other team can beat the Heat in a 7-game series in the East. Only reason the Nets is included is because of Terry, PP, and KG and these three have a combined 445,504,055 playoff experience.


Brooklyn couldn't beat the Bulls w/out Rose, Hinrich, and Deng. So you think that Pierce and KG coming on board makes the Nets a bigger threat than Chicago?

You must have forgot that when the Bulls are healthy they win 50-60 games...we'll see if the Nets can even get 50 next year.

And Indy isn't as good as the Bulls. Dont care about Granger coming back and what happened in the playoffs taking MIA to 7. Bulls will win the division and make it further in the playoffs.

[Dengness9]

Last time these two met with a healthy Rose, didn't MIA beat them in 5 games? And that was with MVP Rose too not this post-injury Rose.


That was Derrick Rose's first time out of the first round. Noah wasn't an all-star(yet), and we are replacing Jimmy Butler for Keith Bogans. If you think Rose will be worse than before, we'll see i guess. I think he will be smarter and a better shooter still having explosive athletic ability.

[KyrieTheFuture]

absolute valid point. But Butler/Deng/Dunleavy has shooting and length.

The wild card of the whole situation is if Nate doesn't get a deal desirable enough to take the Bulls 20% raise on the vet minimum.

FWIW, I don't think Nate comes back to Chicago. BUUTTTTTTTT, if he does....
Heat have two offensive beasts to deal with in Rose/Nate....

and you can play those two together, nate guards Heat's PG and Rose on Wade.

They're certainly [acceptable 3 point shooters but they aren't elite.
2013/2012- Ray Allen
2011 - Every player on the team besides tyson chandler
2010/2009 - Derek Fisher and Ariza were lights out 3 shooters
2008 - Ray Allen

Then we've got the Robert Horrys and Steve Kerr's of the past.

It's a very very important piece of a great team.

[nathanjizzle]

Your user title is the perfect explanation for this post. Put the bottle down.

i just started my sobriety today:biggums:

[poido123]

When was the last time a team won a championship with 0 three point threats? That's their biggest problem they need a 2 who can seriously space the floor. Imagine Rose with more space...incredible. Unfortunately, they have a cheap owner and that probably won't happen.

Dunleavy .420 last year. He will be that guy.


Deng can hit 3's, Butler can hit 3's and I'm convinced Rose will have improved his jumpshot even more and will be hitting 3's.

I'm telling you, you can't just pack the paint and let Bulls shoot outside anymore, they can make you pay, unlike 2011.

[Dengness9]

I guess people are under estimating the fact that the Bulls are now starting a 6'8 athletic guard in Butler and a 6'9 2 time all-star in Deng.


People can bring up 2011 all they want. This is now.....and werent the Heat better in 2011 with a healthy and younger Wade?

Just sayin'.

[KyrieTheFuture]

i just started my sobriety today:biggums:

If you aren't lying, congratulations and keep it up man. And change your title.

If you're trolling...well okay then.

[Dengness9]

They're certainly [acceptable 3 point shooters but they aren't elite.
2013/2012- Ray Allen
2011 - Every player on the team besides tyson chandler
2010/2009 - Derek Fisher and Ariza were lights out 3 shooters
2008 - Ray Allen

Then we've got the Robert Horrys and Steve Kerr's of the past.

It's a very very important piece of a great team.

I would never dumb down how important it is to have 3 point shooters. But the Bulls have some options, and two of those options are long and extremely capable defenders in Deng.

Bulls defense is possibly better than all those other's teams D. We will find out what type of 3pt shooting team the Bulls are next season.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Dunleavy .420 last year. He will be that guy.


Deng can hit 3's, Butler can hit 3's and I'm convinced Rose will have improved his jumpshot even more and will be hitting 3's.

I'm telling you, you can't just pack the paint and let Bulls shoot outside anymore, they can make you pay, unlike 2011.

See my above post, those are guys who will hit the wide wide open 3. You need true 3 point specialists.

However, I agree packing the paint is slightly less effective now. Although that depends on Rose's game on his comeback


Edit: And Dengness, your defense will be vital to win games but you do need to put the ball in the basket and I like to have more...reliable options I guess is the term I'd use

[poido123]

See my above post, those are guys who will hit the wide wide open 3. You need true 3 point specialists.

However, I agree packing the paint is slightly less effective now. Although that depends on Rose's game on his comeback


Look at it this way, the difference in the entire series was less than 10 points except for one game. The only way Heat stopped us in the end was this stradegy of daring everyone else to score outside and stop Rose driving. Not that easy anymore and I see this as being the key difference.

Just a question, have you watched Dunleavy play?

Thibs has recently said the Rose of old is back and will be ready.

[jzek]

I guess people are under estimating the fact that the Bulls are now starting a 6'8 athletic guard in Butler and a 6'9 2 time all-star in Deng.


People can bring up 2011 all they want. This is now.....and werent the Heat better in 2011 with a healthy and younger Wade?

Just sayin'.

Deng is washed up.

[poido123]

Deng is washed up.

Umm, no he isn't.

[KyrieTheFuture]

All I'm saying is the three point shooting isn't as good as past team in the finals. It's possible your defense can be enough to make up for it and we'll see how improved butler can be

[Graviton]

Umm, no he isn't.
Deng is garbage man, using him as part of the reason they might beat the Heat is retarded. He is useless offensively and his defense is always overrated, he is probably the worst all-star the past 2 years. His stats are exaggerated because he plays like 40mpg but doesn't really make much of an impact against an elite team. He shoots 33% outside the paint and can't do anything without being spoon fed. Butler is already better than him at the fraction of the price.

As long as chokers like Deng and Boozer are on the roster and taking 50% of the cap space Bulls ain't winning shit. Those 2 always disappear against the Heat and are totally useless in playoff games. Noah and Butler have heart and balls, they are the real pieces along with a healthy Rose and merciful Thibs (as long as he doesn't kill everyone by playoff time).

[Kuma]

Perfect thread to bump after this season.

Here's something I wrote in the Bulls forum;

2011, Heat had everything go their way, all games were decided by less than 10 points with the exception of game 1 which we blew them out. Boozer and Noah looked injured, none of our shooters were a threat, which allowed the Heat to gamble defensively and force the Bulls team to shoot jumpshots, cut off Rose's driving lanes and protected the key. There's no guarantee that Dunleavy can't go cold like Korver did, however Dunleavy has a higher basketball IQ and has more to his game than just his shooting, he makes good decisions. It helps that we don't have Bogans anymore, Heat didn't have to worry about our outside shot for the most part. We now have Butler who can defend Lebron very well, and contribute offensively too.

Heat have been hanging on for the most part. Pacers took them to 7 games(We are a better team), Spurs basically won in 6(Ray Allen saved the Heat), so Heat do have troubles with teams that have quality bigmen.

Since 2011 is all we can go by, we have improved as a team defensively and have added some pieces that will be alot more helpful than what we had back then. Sure we lost Asik, but when you're in the playoffs your starting lineup is more important as they play the big minutes. Butler and Dunleavy addition is better than losing Asik, Bogans and Korver IMO. The natural improvement of Noah, Rose(he will have a better jumpshot and rounded game), Butler another year I think is enough to get over the Heat.

Overrated my ass, this team has been playing together and built chemistry over the years. I have no doubt that Miami will have fits trying to beat a healthy Bulls team.


Bump this thread, I'm calling it. Bulls to beat Heat(without injury)

I like that you completely ignored the improvement of the Heat's squad, as well as the fact that Wade and LeBron are no longer taking turns at being the man, which has proved to be crucial to them securing 2 titles.

LeBron willl also continue to add more to his game (post/jumpshot), but again you chose to ignore that.

At least make an analysis that addresses both sides.

[poido123]

I like that you completely ignored the improvement of the Heat's squad, as well as the fact that Wade and LeBron are no longer taking turns at being the man, which has proved to be crucial to them securing 2 titles.

LeBron willl also continue to add more to his game (post/jumpshot), but again you chose to ignore that.

At least make an analysis that addresses both sides.


The OP was calling Chicago overrated. I addressed that.

[poido123]

Deng is garbage man, using him as part of the reason they might beat the Heat is retarded. He is useless offensively and his defense is always overrated, he is probably the worst all-star the past 2 years. His stats are exaggerated because he plays like 40mpg but doesn't really make much of an impact against an elite team. He shoots 33% outside the paint and can't do anything without being spoon fed. Butler is already better than him at the fraction of the price.

As long as chokers like Deng and Boozer are on the roster and taking 50% of the cap space Bulls ain't winning shit. Those 2 always disappear against the Heat and are totally useless in playoff games. Noah and Butler have heart and balls, they are the real pieces along with a healthy Rose and merciful Thibs (as long as he doesn't kill everyone by playoff time).

He is not washed up is what I'm saying. I'm fine with people saying he is overrated or not that great etc etc. He is still handy and puts up offense that the team needs. He is more than a handy defender and is a glue guy for this team. He isn't flashy, he isn't great at anything, but he does a bit of everything at an above average standard and we are better off with him than not.

If you are gonna knock him for playing big minutes to get his stats, well I guess you don't value players who are tough and play hard for longer. I would rather of seen Deng traded for something better, but since he isn't and he has value to the team, you have to live with that.

[Rose'sACL]

The OP was calling Chicago overrated. I addressed that.
no, you didn't. read what you are writing. Every bulls fan in this thread is basically writing that heat were better in 2011 than they are now which is not the truth even though wade's health is getting worse.
Wade and LeBron are not confused anymore about who is the best player on the team.
If rose comes back and plays well then i will not bet on either team if they fact each other in the playoffs. I think series will go to 6/7 games and either team can win it. According to me the best teams in the east in regular season will be :
1. bulls
2. heat
3. nets
4. pacers
during playoffs, i see miami more scared of facing pacers than bulls as bulls get as much rattled as heat when the other team starts committing hard fouls on them. Noah and a few other bulls players have to keep their cool other wise they will lose again to pacers or heat.

[poido123]

I like that you completely ignored the improvement of the Heat's squad, as well as the fact that Wade and LeBron are no longer taking turns at being the man, which has proved to be crucial to them securing 2 titles.

LeBron willl also continue to add more to his game (post/jumpshot), but again you chose to ignore that.

At least make an analysis that addresses both sides.

Wade is another year older and troublesome knees. Heat still play with sporadic urgency and nearly paid the price on two occasions. Its not matter of IF the HEAT played with sustained urgency they would crush anybody, they have shown a history of lacking urgency and that is a weakness.

Neither title run has been convincing, the first was in a weak eastern conference then played an inexperienced and outmatched OKC. The second title run they had more adversity, but only for a big shot from Allen did they avoid the scrutiny and Lebron certainly wouldn't have recieved the kind of praise he is getting now. Lebron can and will improve for another year or two, but what about the rest of the Heat team? He still has major lapses in playoffs series, and he won't have that luxury this year with the vast improvement of the eastern conference and to some extent the western conference.

As sceptical as people are of Chicago and calling them overrated, I feel the same about Miami and their title runs.

[All Net]

Wade is another year older and troublesome knees. Heat still play with sporadic urgency and nearly paid the price on two occasions. Its not matter of IF the HEAT played with sustained urgency they would crush anybody, they have shown a history of lacking urgency and that is a weakness.

Neither title run has been convincing, the first was in a weak eastern conference then played an inexperienced and outmatched OKC. The second title run they had more adversity, but only for a big shot from Allen did they avoid the scrutiny and Lebron certainly wouldn't have recieved the kind of praise he is getting now. Lebron can and will improve for another year or two, but what about the rest of the Heat team? He still has major lapses in playoffs series, and he won't have that luxury this year with the vast improvement of the eastern conference and to some extent the western conference.

As sceptical as people are of Chicago and calling them overrated, I feel the same about Miami and their title runs.

doesn't matter

TITLES ARE TITLES

Doesn't matter how easily or hard it was.

[(e)]

Luol Deng is a top 5 rebounding 3 man, who also has a nice mid range game.

He lacks the athleticism as other All-Star SFs, (outside of a Paul Pierce at this point) but he is a very smart player who doesn't make many mistakes. Plus, the guy is a solider. He plays a big role in the defense, and is still relied on to score. His All-Star appearances have been well deserved, people would realize that if they actually watched him play.

The thing that hurt Chicago (outside of injuries) was 3 point shooting. Getting Rose back doesn't fix that, but I think he'll have a more consistent shot post injury, so that with his play making abilities should net Chicago better looks, if nothing else.

The other thing, who is Chicago's second scoring option? I'm sure Rose can get back to being a 20+ point a night guy. Then there is Butler, Deng, and Boozer. Noah isn't special in terms of scoring, but his energy and activity on the offensive glass still gets the team second chance opportunities/hustle points.

I'm not sure there is enough to take down Miami, but Chicago is one of the few teams that actually have a chance of doing so.

[Kuma]

Wade is another year older and troublesome knees. Heat still play with sporadic urgency and nearly paid the price on two occasions. Its not matter of IF the HEAT played with sustained urgency they would crush anybody, they have shown a history of lacking urgency and that is a weakness.

Neither title run has been convincing, the first was in a weak eastern conference then played an inexperienced and outmatched OKC. The second title run they had more adversity, but only for a big shot from Allen did they avoid the scrutiny and Lebron certainly wouldn't have recieved the kind of praise he is getting now. Lebron can and will improve for another year or two, but what about the rest of the Heat team? He still has major lapses in playoffs series, and he won't have that luxury this year with the vast improvement of the eastern conference and to some extent the western conference.

As sceptical as people are of Chicago and calling them overrated, I feel the same about Miami and their title runs.

Oh so now it's about the Heat's title runs? Rather than the Heat v the Bulls? Why do you keep chopping and changing? First you fail to address key aspects of the Heat, then you sort of do that, but move away from the Bulls.

Miami has bounced Chicago with ease on both occasions. Since 2011 is your selected point of judgement, would you care to apply the improvements of the Heat to your original analysis as you did with the Bulls?

[poido123]

Oh so now it's about the Heat's title runs? Rather than the Heat v the Bulls? Why do you keep chopping and changing? First you fail to address key aspects of the Heat, then you sort of do that, but move away from the Bulls.

Miami has bounced Chicago with ease on both occasions. Since 2011 is your selected point of judgement, would you care to apply the improvements of the Heat to your original analysis as you did with the Bulls?

:rolleyes:

They were valid points, I think you are overlooking what I just said and putting back on me to analyse the Heat. In a way I did that? The Heat are more experienced and play better basketball as a team than they have since 2011, but for me to make a point of that seems irrelevant since I'm sure Chicago has done the same thing. But what I did point out was, Bulls have room for improvement from more players, than I could say about the Heat. The very thing the Heat beat us on in 2011, is not going to work this time round. Not worried about the Heat shooters, we have very good perimeter defense to cope with Miami's shooters, and great rebounders to prevent second chance points which they had with other teams. Birdman won't be doing many putbacks either (a key for Heat last year) with Noah defending the paint.

That statement about bouncing Chicago with ease on 2 occasions is the most shortsighted and convenient statement without any context in it whatsoever. 2011 was close, if not for a plan that was carried out that worked on Rose at that time. Can't do that now to the Bulls. And are you going to make a point of that about last year? Really man, we had our second team out there :lol

[thabisyo]

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[Kuma]

:rolleyes:

They were valid points, I think you are overlooking what I just said and putting back on me to analyse the Heat. In a way I did that? The Heat are more experienced and play better basketball as a team than they have since 2011, but for me to make a point of that seems irrelevant since I'm sure Chicago has done the same thing. But what I did point out was, Bulls have room for improvement from more players, than I could say about the Heat. The very thing the Heat beat us on in 2011, is not going to work this time round. Not worried about the Heat shooters, we have very good perimeter defense to cope with Miami's shooters, and great rebounders to prevent second chance points which they had with other teams. Birdman won't be doing many putbacks either (a key for Heat last year) with Noah defending the paint.

That statement about bouncing Chicago with ease on 2 occasions is the most shortsighted and convenient statement without any context in it whatsoever. 2011 was close, if not for a plan that was carried out that worked on Rose at that time. Can't do that now to the Bulls. And are you going to make a point of that about last year? Really man, we had our second team out there :lol

The reason I suggested you don't refer so much to the title runs is because your original point analysed the situation of the Bulls with reference to the 201 ECF. Analysing the title run (and series against different teams) is not keeping with the line of the argument.

You say that you didn't mention the Heat's improvement because it goes without saying, but in the context of your argument, it's a requirement because you are discussing the improvement of the Bulls (their opponent) in relation to a previous series between the two.

I think it's also convenient for you to forget that what makes this Bulls side so good is the fact that they have a very good system. It's the primary reason why they topped the East in 11-12 without Rose for long periods, it's also a big factor in why they made the 2nd round last season.

I think the Bulls are a very good team (obviously), but I don't think they're better than Miami. My main problem here is that your argument is missing crucial evidence for both sides, which makes it inaccurate and bias.

[poido123]

The reason I suggested you don't refer so much to the title runs is because your original point analysed the situation of the Bulls with reference to the 201 ECF. Analysing the title run (and series against different teams) is not keeping with the line of the argument.

You say that you didn't mention the Heat's improvement because it goes without saying, but in the context of your argument, it's a requirement because you are discussing the improvement of the Bulls (their opponent) in relation to a previous series between the two.

I think it's also convenient for you to forget that what makes this Bulls side so good is the fact that they have a very good system. It's the primary reason why they topped the East in 11-12 without Rose for long periods, it's also a big factor in why they made the 2nd round last season.

I think the Bulls are a very good team (obviously), but I don't think they're better than Miami. My main problem here is that your argument is missing crucial evidence for both sides, which makes it inaccurate and bias.

I don't think I missed anything.

Again, please explain your comment about bouncing us with ease in the last two seasons? You want to call me out for bias, yet you say such a trolling comment without any context or explanation.

People like you are fustrating, I point some things out to you, instead you throw curveballs at me then ignore key points that already address what you asked for :rolleyes:

No point calling out bias, you're on the Heats side here and its clear that you have an agenda in this. Innacurate? Well from what I write, I'd like you to address each point and tell me where I'm wrong here, because I think the reason you deflected everything I said is that you cannot refute it.

[Kuma]

I don't think I missed anything.

Again, please explain your comment about bouncing us with ease in the last two seasons? You want to call me out for bias, yet you say such a trolling comment without any context or explanation.

People like you are fustrating, I point some things out to you, instead you throw curveballs at me then ignore key points that already address what you asked for :rolleyes:

No point calling out bias, you're on the Heats side here and its clear that you have an agenda in this. Innacurate? Well from what I write, I'd like you to address each point and tell me where I'm wrong here, because I think the reason you deflected everything I said is that you cannot refute it.

I don't have an agenda, I'm not a Heat fan. I just think you need to be fair with the way you make points. Unlike you, I'm not a massive homer of either team.

From the start I have been saying you need to add analysis of the improvements in the Heat side to make it a fair analysis. I'm still saying that now, so what's so hard to understand about that?

[poido123]

The reason I suggested you don't refer so much to the title runs is because your original point analysed the situation of the Bulls with reference to the 201 ECF. Analysing the title run (and series against different teams) is not keeping with the line of the argument.

You say that you didn't mention the Heat's improvement because it goes without saying, but in the context of your argument, it's a requirement because you are discussing the improvement of the Bulls (their opponent) in relation to a previous series between the two.

I think it's also convenient for you to forget that what makes this Bulls side so good is the fact that they have a very good system. It's the primary reason why they topped the East in 11-12 without Rose for long periods, it's also a big factor in why they made the 2nd round last season.

I think the Bulls are a very good team (obviously), but I don't think they're better than Miami. My main problem here is that your argument is missing crucial evidence for both sides, which makes it inaccurate and bias.


Yes it is. Bulls are a better team healthy than Pacers and I'd find most would agree with that. That line of argument suggests that we would be a big show against the Heat and a good chance to beat them. My original point was in response to another poster saying thata Rose led team were beat by the Heat in 5, so why any different? without any kind of analysis or explanation.

Let's get this straight, OP is suggesting Bulls are overrated, others here have suggested that 2011 will repeat itself again without factoring in any changes since then.

To suggest that I don't have crucial evidence is laughable :oldlol: I can't read into the future? However I have made clear points of why I think the Bulls will beat the Heat this year. I'm still waiting for you to address my points, without deflecting it off with nonense.

[Kuma]

Yes it is. Bulls are a better team healthy than Pacers and I'd find most would agree with that. That line of argument suggests that we would be a big show against the Heat and a good chance to beat them. My original point was in response to another poster saying thata Rose led team were beat by the Heat in 5, so why any different? without any kind of analysis or explanation.

Let's get this straight, OP is suggesting Bulls are overrated, others here have suggested that 2011 will repeat itself again without factoring in any changes since then.

To suggest that I don't have crucial evidence is laughable :oldlol: I can't read into the future? However I have made clear points of why I think the Bulls will beat the Heat this year. I'm still waiting for you to address my points, without deflecting it off with nonense.

I don't disagree that the Bulls have gotten better outside of Rose. That's not up for debate with me. What I would like though, is for you to give the same sort of analysis for the Heat that you originally did with the Bulls. Is that so hard?

You had an opportunity, but chose to discuss the Heat's title runs, with a focus on their finals opponents. All I originally asked was for an analysis on both sides. I don't believe talking up the Bull's strengths and improvements does much unless you can contrast it to a relevant opponent. So far, you've failed to do that.

I've asked for the same thing over and over, but you have continued to avoid doing so. I'm not the one with something to prove here as I wasn't the one coming out with the claim you did.

[poido123]

I don't have an agenda, I'm not a Heat fan. I just think you need to be fair with the way you make points. Unlike you, I'm not a massive homer of either team.

From the start I have been saying you need to add analysis of the improvements in the Heat side to make it a fair analysis. I'm still saying that now, so what's so hard to understand about that?


You have made it clear that you think the Heat are the better team. You said that. You haven't addressed or made points as to why you think that is the case. Have you told me anything about Ray Allen? Battier? Chalmers? Nope. Have you told me why you think Wade will keep to the standard of last year and not drop off even more? Nope. Can you refute that Heat have been hanging on up to this point, playing a weak eastern conference, or that Lebron and co weren't convincing in winning last year? Nope.

To start with, I wasn't addressing you or what you were asking of me. Wasn't my job, the OP had already made his point that Bulls are overrated. I addressed that. Te

Again I have already stated that Lebron will improve for a year or two in his prime, but I pointed out, what about the rest of the team? Is that enough to overcome Wade's decline? Will they be able to do the same thing against a healthy Bulls team as they did in 2011? All these things you haven't addressed and that I have made clear to you.

[Kuma]

You have made it clear that you think the Heat are the better team. You said that. You haven't addressed or made points as to why you think that is the case. Have you told me anything about Ray Allen? Battier? Chalmers? Nope. Have you told me why you think Wade will keep to the standard of last year and not drop off even more? Nope. Can you refute that Heat have been hanging on up to this point, playing a weak eastern conference, or that Lebron and co weren't convincing in winning last year? Nope.

To start with, I wasn't addressing you or what you were asking of me. Wasn't my job, the OP had already made his point that Bulls are overrated. I addressed that. Te

Again I have already stated that Lebron will improve for a year or two in his prime, but I pointed out, what about the rest of the team? Is that enough to overcome Wade's decline? Will they be able to do the same thing against a healthy Bulls team as they did in 2011? All these things you haven't addressed and that I have made clear to you.

The burden of proof is on you because you make a claim which strays from the norm. The evidence for me is that the Heat have beaten Chicago 4-1 both times they've met in the playoffs. You are obligated to point out how this will be different in the coming season(s), with use of evidence.

You originally used 2011 as a reference point, but chose not to address both side's improvements. To me, that is insufficient evidence to back up your claims.

How hard is it for you to understand?

[poido123]

The burden of proof is on you because you make a claim which strays from the norm. The evidence for me is that the Heat have beaten Chicago 4-1 both times they've met in the playoffs. You are obligated to point out how this will be different in the coming season(s), with use of evidence.

You originally used 2011 as a reference point, but chose not to address both side's improvements. To me, that is insufficient evidence to back up your claims.

How hard is it for you to understand?

Again, I addressed that. You say this statement without any valid concession that Bulls did in fact have their second team playing out there last year. It's not even worth mentioning and scews any type of logic.

Burden of proof? Other than putting up reasons and explaining the change in team and personnel, how do you suppose I do that? :rolleyes: Do you expect me to reach into my bag for a crystal ball and come back to you with the evidence of how the Bulls beat the Heat this year? That is completely ridiculous.

2011 was brought up by another poster, I simply explained the change of personnel, your narrow-minded statement about heat bouncing bulls with ease is such a stupid statement to make and totally inaccurate with all facts attached to it.

I explained the Bulls personell changes and how that affects and will influence the result this year. I also made it clear Lebron will improve, but made a valid question about Heat's ability to improve as a team, outside of Lebron's improvement. That also relates to Heat's performances in the last two years, the lack of dominance or winning in convincing fashion is something to be concerned about and that Bulls(a superior team to Pacers) have a very solid chance to beat the Heat, based on last year in particular and how the Heat went about it's run.

Again, sounds like I'm talking to a brick wall here, I've done my part.

[eeeeeebro]

according to statistics when Rose deng boozer noah play we win 85% of our games

Last year when Hinrich played bulls won 65% of games
When hinrich did not play and he did get injured we won less than 50% of games during season and 25% of games during play-offs

We challenged LeBron and company last year with-out Rose - Hinrich - Deng

Deng is 20 points 7 rebounds with rarely anything run through him...
Hinrich runs the team well and guards passing lanes even better
Derrick rose is the only person in the NBA in the past 4 years to take an MVP title from Lebron

So you make absolutely no sense to me... Remember this last time deng boozer noah was healthy we stopped Miami's 27 game win streak...

[SilkkTheShocker]

Bulls are currently a pathetic 0-3 against LeBron in the playoffs. Just sayin

[Soundwave]

They need a reliable 1B option on the offense and to retain Noah at the same time and they're in business.

Without that though ... it's hard for them match up against the firepower of Miami's big 3.

[Chicago Brawls]

Bulls are currently a pathetic 0-3 against LeBron in the playoffs. Just sayin

Lebron is currently a pathetic 2-6 against the Bulls in Championships. Just sayin.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Lebron is currently a pathetic 2-6 against the Bulls in Championships. Just sayin.

You know its bad when you have to put your franchise up against a single player to make yourself feel better.

[(e)]

You know its bad when you have to put your franchise up against a single player to make yourself feel better.
How about 6 to 3?

[Da_Bulls_23]

That's ok we've never minded being the underdog and thrive when people count us out.

Bulls always bring it and will bring it this year just like any other year, All-Star or no All-Star & healthy or not.

I'm not sure why everyone thinks the Heat are invincible and unbeatable. Fact is LeBron is that team. Put him on any NBA team (except CHA) and he can elevate them to a contender or make a deep run.

Everyone knows If Ray Allen didn't hit that 3 (which came after a LeBron brick) the Spurs would be champs right now and everyone would be singing a different tune and talking about trading Bosh, Wade or revamping the team, etc..

Either way Heat got tested and looked vulnerable in the ECF and Finals. So things can go either way next year.

But anyone who says Rose is done and mentally weak don't know anything about him or basketball.

Yes the Bulls could use another offensive option who can create but anyone with a conscience mind knows you never give up defense for offense. It all comes down to health and execution.

Bulls are built on chemistry and hard nosed basketball. Not going to say how things will turn up next year as a lot can happen but Bulls have what it takes to go all the way. All I know it's going to be a great season if everyone stays healthy. After all every year is a new year.

[poido123]

Bulls are currently a pathetic 0-3 against LeBron in the playoffs. Just sayin

It's pathetic when you have to include last year :rolleyes:

[Rondo]

bS

Heat can't make 4 nba finals in a row, too many minutes

Horrible logic.

[FLDFSU]

:cheers:

A bulls vs Heat matchup this year will be one of the most anticipated battles in a while. It doesn't take a genious to see that Bulls are their strongest foe.

Time to bring the pain this year Bulls :pimp:

Too bad it's not going to happen as the Pacers will eliminate the Bulls and face the Heat in the ECF

[SilkkTheShocker]

How about 6 to 3?

Like I said, what is Chicago's record against LeBron led teams? Are Chicago fans that desperate they have to go back to the 90s just try and make an argument? Because last time I checked, Jordan doesn't play for the Bulls anymore. Your best player on the other hand is mentally soft PG that shoots 6% against LeBron. Slight difference.

[SilkkTheShocker]

That's ok we've never minded being the underdog and thrive when people count us out.

Bulls always bring it and will bring it this year just like any other year, All-Star or no All-Star & healthy or not.

I'm not sure why everyone thinks the Heat are invincible and unbeatable. Fact is LeBron is that team. Put him on any NBA team (except CHA) and he can elevate them to a contender or make a deep run.

Everyone knows If Ray Allen didn't hit that 3 (which came after a LeBron brick) the Spurs would be champs right now and everyone would be singing a different tune and talking about trading Bosh, Wade or revamping the team, etc..

Either way Heat got tested and looked vulnerable in the ECF and Finals. So things can go either way next year.

But anyone who says Rose is done and mentally weak don't know anything about him or basketball.

Yes the Bulls could use another offensive option who can create but anyone with a conscience mind knows you never give up defense for offense. It all comes down to health and execution.

Bulls are built on chemistry and hard nosed basketball. Not going to say how things will turn up next year as a lot can happen but Bulls have what it takes to go all the way. All I know it's going to be a great season if everyone stays healthy. After all every year is a new year.

I didn't read this post, but im assuming its not another excuse thread for the Bulls. Going on to year 4 of how the Bulls are suppose to beat the Heat. I can't wait to hear the next batch of excuses we get from Bulls fans.

0-3.

[FLDFSU]

Lebron is currently a pathetic 2-6 against the Bulls in Championships. Just sayin.

Now you know that this response is pathetic right?

[Doranku]

Bulls will lose in 5 again if they even end up playing each other. Rose will probably be "injured" again.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Now you know that this response is pathetic right?

I almost feel bad for them. But its always the same song and dance with Bulls fans every season. Just a whole lot of talk but nothing to back it up.

[Dengness9]

I didn't read this post, but im assuming its not another excuse thread for the Bulls. Going on to year 4 of how the Bulls are suppose to beat the Heat. I can't wait to hear the next batch of excuses we get from Bulls fans.

0-3.


This post is exactly why you are the worst poster here.

You aren't even a Heat fan. And it wasn't an excuse post. It was objective and fair.

You are so obsessed with the Bulls you had to make a thread about them. If a thread title has anything about Rose in it, you clear your schedule in your pathetic life to post all day about Rose your favorite player.

Sillk is pretty pumped about the Heat beating the Bulls last year. Huge win for him personally. What a ****in homo.

[Dengness9]

I almost feel bad for them. But its always the same song and dance with Bulls fans every season. Just a whole lot of talk but nothing to back it up.

You almost feel bad for fans who actually have supported their team during the good and bad and you have no idea what that is about because Lebron jumped on Wades dick in Miami and you are in the middle waiting for their leftover jizz?

You didn't even like the Heat before LBgay went there. Stop fronting. I don't feel bad for you either, but clearly you are a bandwagon fairweather bitch. That's what makes up the Heat "fan" base.

We'll see what team you jump to after the heat. It will happen.

[Dengness9]

Sillk where are you even from?

I won't get an honest answer but I figured I'd at least get a shot at calling you out on that too.

Where you from p u s s y?

[Chicago Brawls]

Now you know that this response is pathetic right?

I like to respond to pathetic with pathetic and with pathetic.

[FLDFSU]

You almost feel bad for fans who actually have supported their team during the good and bad and you have no idea what that is about because Lebron jumped on Wades dick in Miami and you are in the middle waiting for their leftover jizz?

You didn't even like the Heat before LBgay went there. Stop fronting. I don't feel bad for you either, but clearly you are a bandwagon fairweather bitch. That's what makes up the Heat "fan" base.

We'll see what team you jump to after the heat. It will happen.

And you didn't hate the heat until lebron came to Miami

[Dengness9]

I like to respond to pathetic with pathetic and with pathetic.


What's even more pathetic is that dude you are talking about, has a Jordan avy but speaks endless crap about the Bulls.

Hypocrite.

[ballinhun8]

Silk and April 2013 teaming up........makes sense now.


Idiots led by an Idiot.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Bulls deflecting like crazy because they know im right.

[FLDFSU]

What's even more pathetic is that dude you are talking about, has a Jordan avy but speaks endless crap about the Bulls.

Hypocrite.

The only thing I have said about Chicago is that they are not our rivals and that next year the Pacers will eliminate them.

Most Heat fans have tremendous respect for Jordan as evidenced by the number 23 being retired.

[nathanjizzle]

The only thing I have said about Chicago is that they are not our rivals and that next year the Pacers will eliminate them.

Most Heat fans have tremendous respect for Jordan as evidenced by the number 23 being retired.

the bulls cant beat the heat because we lost to them 2 years ago but the pacers should beat the bulls because they lost to the bulls 2 years ago. makes sense

bulls only had one fair chance at the heat in 2011 and rose shot terribly, if he played better then the series would have been won by the bulls

2012 we swept them in the regular season, everyone had us favorites out of the east, then d rose got injured.

2013 we still shat on them in the regular season. playoffs come and loul deng and hinrich are injured again.

2014 bulls will shit on the heat and it wont even be fair.

[Dengness9]

The only thing I have said about Chicago is that they are not our rivals and that next year the Pacers will eliminate them.

Most Heat fans have tremendous respect for Jordan as evidenced by the number 23 being retired.


Pat Riley retired that number. Claim to be a heat fan like the rest and you don't know about "your" teams retired numbers.

It has nothing to do with the fans and why that number is retired. Way to try and prop up the idiots you associate with as fake bandwagon fans. None of you watched the nba 5 years ago.

[Dengness9]

And you didn't hate the heat until lebron came to Miami


Oh you mean when this site was flooded with newbs who don't know shit about basketball and ruined the site?

Yea I remember.

Miami Heat is the gayest thing that has ever happened in sports. Did you see Bosh swallowing *** in the locker room with it all over his face?

Heat are a bunch of guys who were scared of losing and the competition that other greats were never scared of.

**** yourself.

[Dengness9]

**** you Sillk. P u s s y.


Your mom's a bigger whore than Lebron's mom.

[Dengness9]

He can't even answer me as to where he is from or located because it will show he hopped on this heat shit at the gay club.

[FLDFSU]

the bulls cant beat the heat because we lost to them 2 years ago but the pacers should beat the bulls because they lost to the bulls 2 years ago. makes sense

bulls only had one fair chance at the heat in 2011 and rose shot terribly, if he played better then the series would have been won by the bulls

2012 we swept them in the regular season, everyone had us favorites out of the east, then d rose got injured.

2013 we still shat on them in the regular season. playoffs come and loul deng and hinrich are injured again.

2014 bulls will shit on the heat and it wont even be fair.

And if Wade plays better the Heat would have made 2011 more of a cake walk. And the Bulls did not sweep the Heat in 2012. And in 2013 we split. What delusional world are you living in?

Chicago fans are not saying anything different from what Boston and NYC fans said last year. And I knew then that we probably won't even face them because of the Pacers.

History will repeat itself as the Bulls won't get past the Pacers.

[FLDFSU]

Pat Riley retired that number. Claim to be a heat fan like the rest and you don't know about "your" teams retired numbers.

It has nothing to do with the fans and why that number is retired. Way to try and prop up the idiots you associate with as fake bandwagon fans. None of you watched the nba 5 years ago.

No shat dumb@ss. I brought that up to show Heat and Bulls are not rivals.

Try to keep up. We would never accept the retiring of a knick's number.

And I have been watching Miami since the Heat and knicks brawl in the playoffs.

[Solefade]

lol @ Bulls fans getting mad and salty in this thread. There is nothing that indicates the Bulls are better than the Heat even with Rose based on the past two meetings in the playoffs. You say the Bulls team now is better than they were in 2011 but the Heat have gotten better too? It's arguable that the roster from 2011 and Rose were better then than now.

[FLDFSU]

Oh you mean when this site was flooded with newbs who don't know shit about basketball and ruined the site?

Yea I remember.

Miami Heat is the gayest thing that has ever happened in sports. Did you see Bosh swallowing *** in the locker room with it all over his face?

Heat are a bunch of guys who were scared of losing and the competition that other greats were never scared of.

**** yourself.

It is far more gayier to go around hating on one player than hating one's team rival. What you going back to bashing Cleveland if Bron leaves to go back? Pathetic.

Especially in the case when Bulls fans were blowing their collective loads when they just swore that Bosh and James were signing up to play for Chicago in 2010. Bulls fans were ready to throw Noah under the bus and back over him to let James sign.

Now all of sudden they're gay. Stop acting like little school girls.

And I have said this a thousand times, you can thank Boston for unfairly stacking the deck and attempting to eliminate eastern competition.

[Solefade]

It is far more gayier to go around hating on one player than hating one's team rival. What you going back to bashing Cleveland if Bron leaves to go back? Pathetic.

Especially in the case when Bulls fans were blowing their collective loads when they just swore that Bosh and James were signing up to play for Chicago in 2010. Bulls fans were ready to throw Noah under the bus and back over him to let James sign.

Now all of sudden they're gay. Stop acting like little school girls.

And I have said this a thousand times, you can thank Boston for unfairly stacking the deck and attempting to eliminate eastern competition.

I love how everyone completely ignores this and thinks that Heat started all of this. Lol.

[Dengness9]

There it is folks....


2 puss boys think the celtics joining up in their 30's past their prime is the same as Lebron and Wade both top 3 players at the time in their 20's as the same thing.


Idiots. And making up fake shit about watching the Heat before 2010.

Not buying it. Suck it.

[Solefade]

There it is folks....


2 puss boys think the celtics joining up in their 30's past their prime is the same as Lebron and Wade both top 3 players at the time in their 20's as the same thing.


Idiots. And making up fake shit about watching the Heat before 2010.

Not buying it. Suck it.

What? You're saying you don't think they had Boston in mind as the team to beat when they teamed up in Miami? Was Boston some sort of team to sneeze at? You're the idiot if you don't think that.

[Dengness9]

Bulls world champs 2014-3014....book it....

You guys will all be on the bandwagon.

[Solefade]

Bulls world champs 2014-3014....book it....

You guys will all be on the bandwagon.


Should change your user title to "Dumbass Bulls Fan" IMO :lol

[Dengness9]

What? You're saying you don't think they had Boston in mind as the team to beat when they teamed up in Miami? Was Boston some sort of team to sneeze at? You're the idiot if you don't think that.

Lebron didn't have to team up in Miami to eventually beat Boston.

All he had to do was not quit on his team like he clearly did in his last run with Cleveland. He didn't believe in himself enough to overcome competition and he jumped to another dudes team, which no great in their prime has ever done.

Idiot.

[Dengness9]

Should change your user title to "Dumbass Bulls Fan" IMO :lol


One of the least funny things I read in awhile.

Which bandwagon is next for you?

Idiot.

[Solefade]

Lebron didn't have to team up in Miami to eventually beat Boston.

All he had to do was not quit on his team like he clearly did in his last run with Cleveland. He didn't believe in himself enough to overcome competition and he jumped to another dudes team, which no great in their prime has ever done.

Idiot.


So you're saying the right thing LeBron should do is stay in Cleveland and remain ringless right now because it's more honorable? :facepalm

Pretty ironic you're calling everyone that argues against you an idiot.

[FLDFSU]

There it is folks....


2 puss boys think the celtics joining up in their 30's past their prime is the same as Lebron and Wade both top 3 players at the time in their 20's as the same thing.


Idiots. And making up fake shit about watching the Heat before 2010.

Not buying it. Suck it.

Yet Chicago was about to give their right nut for a chance at Bron Bosh to go along with Rose.

[FLDFSU]

So you're saying the right thing LeBron should do is stay in Cleveland and remain ringless right now because it's more honorable? :facepalm

Pretty ironic you're calling everyone that argues against you an idiot.

He doesn't really believe that. He thinks what LeBron did was great. He's just mad that it's happening in Miami and not Chicago.

[Dengness9]

So you're saying the right thing LeBron should do is stay in Cleveland and remain ringless right now because it's more honorable? :facepalm

Pretty ironic you're calling everyone that argues against you an idiot.

Those were not my words. Never said anything about honor. He actually stopped competing in an nba playoff game, he quit and then jumped ship in the most disrespectful way possible. I don't care he left, that's what FA is for, it's how he left like a bitch. Then got punked by the Mavs for acting like a front runner chump. Not hard to see. From the preseason championship ceremony to Wade and Lbj disrespecting Dirk.


And I'm not calling people idiots, only trolls. Basically every heat poster but 1 or 2 is a troll. Whatever

[97 bulls]

The Bulls have a great shot at beating the Heat. Even though the 2011 series onky went five games. All games were hotly contested. Except game 1. And that was a Bulls win. The fact is the Bulls on paper have improved much more than the Heat.

Hinrich is a big upgrade over Watson

Dunleavy brings more to the table than Korver

And Butler is twice the player Bogans was.

We miss Asik though

The Heat bringing in Birdman was big. But aside from James and Bosh. Theyre getting older. And these deep playoff runs do take tolls on the players body.

[RRR3]

Lebron didn't have to team up in Miami to eventually beat Boston.

All he had to do was not quit on his team like he clearly did in his last run with Cleveland. He didn't believe in himself enough to overcome competition and he jumped to another dudes team, which no great in their prime has ever done.

Idiot.
Dwight has done it two years in a row. Carmelo did it, so did Vince Carter.
For what it's worth, the year b4 KG came to Boston he put up 22/13/4/1/2.