Who will end up being the better overall player: Andre Drummond or Anthony Davis?

[hawkfan]

Who will end up being the better overall player: Andre Drummond or Anthony Davis?

[WayOfWade]

My heart says Anthony
My head says Andre

[b0bab0i]

I picked Drummond from the start, before they entered college.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Davis. Drummond is a getting a bit overhyped for how raw of an offensive player he is right now. Are people watching him play or just his highlights?

But a large part of me thinks Drummond has more upside. Which is incredible because Davis has amazing upside.

[DukeDelonte13]

Davis.

[STATUTORY]

give me drummond. the upside and ceiling is not even comparable. Davis will be a Camby like player, Drummond has the potential to be shaq lite

[fpliii]

I like Drummond, but give me Davis. Underrated rookie season, and has all the tools to be a super-elite player in this league. I'll take defense over offense any day from a big (not that Drummond is poor on that end, he's pretty good, but he's not Davis).

That being said, Drummond's potential is miles ahead of Monroe. If the Pistons have to part with one of the two, it's a fairly obvious choice.

[Shade8780]

I picked Drummond from the start, before they entered college.
So did I, then I saw his disappointing year at UConn, so I changed my mind to Davis. Then I saw their rookie years......

....I think Drummond has the potential to be better, hell, he has more potential than nearly anyone in this league, but I don't see him reaching it. I think the Brow will end up being the better player. He had a pretty underrated rookie year and he's gonna be very good at his peak.

[RIP CITY]

As of right now I think it's pretty obvious that Davis is much further along offensively, which gives him a significant edge going forward. Because of that, at this moment you have to lean towards Davis.

But I think Drummond has far more potential than Davis. I think Davis is much closer to his ceiling than most people tend to believe. I also think Drummond will be every bit as dominant defensively as Davis. Davis is a dominant finesse defensive big, like Camby or Chandler. Where as Drummond can be more like Duncan or Dwight defensively. I prefer the more physical brand of defense, I think it's more effective and more intimidating. I prefer Drummond's more physical style of defense and I think he will end up being the better man to man post defender because of it while being a similarly effective help defender. Preference aside, I can see these two fighting each other for DPOY's in the future.

They will always be very close in terms of impact defensively, the difference will be whether or not Drummond can reach his potential offensively and I believe he has a much higher ceiling than Davis on the offensive end. He's still very raw offensively so it's hard to tell whether he will reach his potential or not but if he does I definitely think he'll be the better player. But that is a pretty big if, so right now as I said, you have to lean towards Davis. Obviously as a Pistons fan I hope that Drummond reaches his potential and not only closes that gap but surpasses Davis.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Give Drummond a few more years and we will be murdering his competition even if it is mainly due to his strength and athleticism, can't really say the same about Davis (well not on offense)

[Johnny Jones]

I think Davis is much closer to his ceiling than most people tend to believe.
This is really stupid. Davis is not even close to his full potential. When he puts on strength he will be a much better player. Opposing bigs wouldn't be able to shove him around/back him down.

Per 36 his numbers are 16/10/2. Incredible for a weak, raw rookie.

[dbk123]

davis. i dont see drummond breaking out as a star, while i think davis has the potential to do so.

[Nastradamus]

It will be very interesting. Davis is more likely to reach his potential IMO, but Drummond has the higher ceiling. He can be Shaq, Davis can be KG. I love KG, but I want Shaq in the end.

[poido123]

I got flamed hard at the start of the season when I said Drummond would turn out to be the better player and that Drummond has a good chance to be ROY.

I still believe Drummond will be better.

[Pra]

Drummond! I believe he will be the best C in the league in the next couple years. I would build my team around him over AD anyday, lotta serviceable stretch 4's out there, Drummond has the potential to be a franchise true center. By no means am I saying AD is bad or average.

[irondarts]

So did I, then I saw his disappointing year at UConn, so I changed my mind to Davis. Then I saw their rookie years......

....I think Drummond has the potential to be better, hell, he has more potential than nearly anyone in this league, but I don't see him reaching it. I think the Brow will end up being the better player. He had a pretty underrated rookie year and he's gonna be very good at his peak.
This.

[Johnny Jones]

I still believe Drummond will be better.
Why?

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

Who will end up being the better overall player: Andre Drummond or Anthony Davis?

Anthony Davis' ceiling = Garnett

Drummond's ceiling = Tyson Chandler or better DeAndre Jordan

I don't think Drummond's will have much of a offensive game

[RIP CITY]

This is really stupid. Davis is not even close to his full potential. When he puts on strength he will be a much better player. Opposing bigs wouldn't be able to shove him around/back him down.

Per 36 his numbers are 16/10/2. Incredible for a weak, raw rookie.

You took what I said alittle further than I meant it. My point really was, people expecting Davis to be the next KG are going to be disappointed, I don't think his ceiling is that high.

[Burgz V2]

Davis. As much as said about Anthony Davis' defensive ability coming into the league, I really think Drummond will be much more dominant defensively.

AD's versatility and skill level at his age and position are too hard to ignore, he's going to be really good. Combined with his ability to block shots, overall he will be the better player.

[boozehound]

This is really stupid. Davis is not even close to his full potential. When he puts on strength he will be a much better player. Opposing bigs wouldn't be able to shove him around/back him down.

Per 36 his numbers are 16/10/2. Incredible for a weak, raw rookie.
and drummonds per 36 were..... 14/14/3 with 2 steals

pretty incredible for an even rawer rookie with poor conditioning (and younger).

both are among the best young bigs in the league. I do think drummond's size and freak athleticism may set them apart by the time they are 5 years deep in the league

[b0bab0i]

Bumping this.

[GOBB]

Anthony Davis.

[veilside23]

a. Davis ...

[SpurrDurr]

So far it's Davis. Drummond is a great athlete but Davis is a nature freak with skills. He's bulking up, i expect him to sodomize Howard in a couple of years.

[Aussie Dunker]

You can definitely argue either way, but all I know is that Drummond was an absolute steal with pick #9 right?...

:rockon:

[BankShot]

Drummond needs to learn how to shoot free-throws before this is even a question.

If you can't play someone at the end of the game, he belongs nowhere in a "who's better" comparison with someone legitimate.

[BankShot]

Drummond needs to learn how to shoot free-throws before this is even a question.

If you can't play someone at the end of the game, he belongs nowhere in a "who's better" comparison with someone legitimate.

... this is coming from someone very excited about Monroe/Drum'

[Sarcastic]

Drummond: only player to put up 20 PER as a teenager :bowdown:

[2LeTTeRS]

Drummond: only player to put up 20 PER as a teenager :bowdown:

This is great and all, but look up Javale McGee and Andray Blatche's stats and then tell me how useful PER is for measuring the effectiveness of a big man.

I take Dravis all day. I've seen flashes from Drummond, but I've seen one too many raw athletic bigs never develope the fundamentals needed to dominate to really buy in. Hopefully he proves me wrong.

[andremiller07]

I take Dravis all day. I've seen flashes from Drummond, but I've seen one too many raw athletic bigs never develope the fundamentals needed to dominate to really buy in. Hopefully he proves me wrong.
I normally never a fan of these types of players (athletic low skilled bigs hate em), but where Drummond differs from your DeAndre Jordans, Kwame Browne's and so on and other athletic stiffs is he actually has a elite pair of hands which you can't teach so that right there easily separates him from those types. Normally players with good hands can develop a offensive game much easier imo due to having excellent natural feel.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Davis will have a longer career since he has already developed a jumpshot

[Johnny Jones]

Drummond: only player to put up 20 PER as a teenager :bowdown:
Davis did it too.

[Dave3]

give me drummond. the upside and ceiling is not even comparable. Davis will be a Camby like player, Drummond has the potential to be shaq lite
Camby like player putting up 25/10/2/2/3 on 58% FG.

Interesting to read some of these responses. I feel like most of the people saying Drummond were doing it just to be contrarian.

[Miss Bella]

Camby like player putting up 25/10/2/2/3 on 58% FG.

Interesting to read some of these responses. I feel like most of the people saying Drummond were doing it just to be contrarian.

No, that was not the case. I can't speak for everyone in here but Drummond showed tremendous potential in HS and his hype carried on to college. He was ahead of Davis in the mock drafts for several months before people saw he had next to no offensive game.

His second year was also really good for someone as raw as him. Minute to minute better than Dwight's second year. I thought he would breakout this year, get 20/14 just on his athletic ability especially with Stan as his coach but thus far he has been limited and been disappointing.

I still think he has the potential to be the best center in the league but for that to happen he has to be able to finish a game, therefore a 40% ft is unacceptable.

On of the most noteworthy thing I noticed while looking at his stats was his FG % has plummeted from low 60s to 48%. That has a lot to do with playing with a new coach and a new system. I also noticed while watching one of his games that he made a consorted effort of using hook shots as a go to weapon, it did not look good and missed a lot of them and I do not know if it was a isolated event, but it was nice to see that he is trying to add offensive weapons to his repertoire.

With that said I think we can move away from the Davis/Drummond comparison, they don't have the same playing style and even though it is early Davis is way ahead already playing at a level Drummond would have to work hard season after season to reach. That does not take anything away from Drummond though, for a ninth pick he is the franchise player Pistons should build around. Not bad when you see the player that were picked ahead of him.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Drummond still has a lot of potential, but it's safe to say anyone in this thread who said they'd pick him over Davis was dead wrong.

[atljonesbro]

Lmao. Y'all are no where near as smart as you think you are.

[navy]

Damn.

[Budadiiii]

Drummond. LMFAO at the idiots who picked Davis. :facepalm

[dubeta]

Damn.. This thread


Even comparing Durant to Davis is a huge insult to Davis


Best players since MJ


Shaq - TMac - Duncan - LeBron- and in the future Davis

[Budadiiii]

Damn.. This thread


Even comparing Durant to Davis is a huge insult to Davis


Best players since MJ


Shaq - TMac - Duncan - LeBron- and in the future Davis
You can't even troll right. Why does T-Mac come before Duncan?

[Phenith]

What it really came down to was a buttload of potential and size, who needed/needs a lot of seasoning (Drummond) vs. a buttload of potential who was ready to play now.

By no means is this argument over, but at this point, Drummond will be lucky to get to the point where Davis is currently at.

Bottom line is, Davis is establishing himself as a next tier player who has few equal peers and will be a force to be reckoned with for years, pretty sure Drummond won't get there(but he is still really young for a big).

[Rake2204]

I still think he has the potential to be the best center in the league but for that to happen he has to be able to finish a game, therefore a 40% ft is unacceptable.

On of the most noteworthy thing I noticed while looking at his stats was his FG % has plummeted from low 60s to 48%. That has a lot to do with playing with a new coach and a new system. I also noticed while watching one of his games that he made a consorted effort of using hook shots as a go to weapon, it did not look good and missed a lot of them and I do not know if it was a isolated event, but it was nice to see that he is trying to add offensive weapons to his repertoire.His field goal percentage drop has a lot to do with the post-game you mentioned. He is awful in the post, but Van Gundy is attempting to get him looks there - so he's failing a lot. Whereas in previous years, coaches saw he was terrible in the post and more or less said, "Well, how about you just concentrate on tip-dunks and alley-oops?"

After his initial back-to-the-basket failings, I also think there was a confidence issue for a stretch of games, leading him to miss even more inside shots that he normally would, hence the giant drop in percentage.

And yeah, his free throw shooting is still awful.

[fpliii]

I like Drummond, but give me Davis. Underrated rookie season, and has all the tools to be a super-elite player in this league. I'll take defense over offense any day from a big (not that Drummond is poor on that end, he's pretty good, but he's not Davis).

That being said, Drummond's potential is miles ahead of Monroe. If the Pistons have to part with one of the two, it's a fairly obvious choice.
:rockon:

[smoovegittar]

My heart says Anthony
My head says Andre
Agree. I worry about Anthony's health... that kid grew up too damn quick.

[Cocaine80s]

Drummond wont even be as good as Davis in his rookie year

[Collie]

Drummond at this point is a one trick pony: he's an elite rebounder, but not much else.