The Heat should trade Wade instead of Amnesty M. Miller

[TonyMontana]

Wade
2014: 18.56 million
2015: 20.04 million(player option)

M. Miller
2014: 6.2 million
2015: 6.6 million(player option)

Wade is done. Hes good for one every ten games or so. Unless his mid range game is consistant hes a liability, and rumor is he hasn't even touched a basketball this offseason. :facepalm His knees are only getting worse and this guy can't even shoot. He provides no value to the team except for upping his stats in regular season blowouts via layup lines.

The Heat came back in Game 6 because LeBron, Chalmers, Birdman, M.Miller, and Ray Allen. M. Miller was instrumental to that and this guy is a true professional that plays with heart. He isn't writing books or worrying about what outfit he is going to wear.

With Miller you CANT PACK THE PAINT as easly. Opens the game up for LeBron "Best player in the ****ing world" James

Miami should trade Wade for a center. WADE FOR ASIK. Let them absorb the excess money so Miller stays.

C- Asik
F-Bosh
F-LeBron
G-M. Miller
G-Chalmers
Ray Ray
Battier
Birdman
Haslem
Cole
James Jones
Anthony

threepeat

[PJR]

Ban this fool.

[FLDFSU]

Tony, I generally like your work but :facepalm

[secund2nun]

This would make Miami much better but Miami will never do it and you will be bashed.

[Bandito]

20ppg 5 ast 5 rbs

I wonder who season stats those belongs too?

[scm5]

Ban this fool.

Miami would never do it but Asik over Wade would actually make Miami a better team as long as Allen can stay healthy while playing a lot of minutes.

[WayOfWade]

Dang it Tony!!! You may be one of my favorite posters, but this is pushing it.

[HurricaneKid]

Wade is the face of the Franchise and was still a second team All-NBA player last year. He gets hurt too often but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to leave. But I'm sure plenty of people around here hope you do.

[scm5]

20ppg 5 ast 5 rbs

I wonder who season stats those belongs too?

Given the same minutes, Allen could put up something like 15/4/4 and Asik would be a monster on the defensive end of the floor, not to mention the rebounding which is a weak point for the Heat.

Wade is good, but Allen is a more than suitable replacement if they traded him away for a C.

[Bandito]

Given the same minutes, Allen could put up something like 15/4/4 and Asik would be a monster on the defensive end of the floor, not to mention the rebounding which is a weak point for the Heat.

Wade is good, but Allen is a more than suitable replacement if they traded him away for a C.
If traded for a C like Asik makes sense but just amnestied for nothing? WTF?

[Nash]

Is OP real life?

Wade played with a bum knee in the playoffs and should not have played but he did it for his team. He will work on that knee and return to the real Wade pretty damn soon. There is literally nothing out there better than a healthy Wade.

[FLDFSU]

If we get rid of Wade we can kiss LeBron goodbye. Why the Hell would he stick around an organization that would get rid of its own like that? And it sends a bad message to free agents.

[scm5]

If we get rid of Wade we can kiss LeBron goodbye. Why the Hell would he stick around an organization that would get rid of its own like that? And it sends a bad message to free agents.

I know, but I'm just saying as a team, the Heat would be better.

There is zero chance this happens, but they would improve.

[jzek]

That must be some good pot you just smoked :lol

[Nash]

Lebron will take first plane to New York and sign with the Knicks or Nets if Wade got traded.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Stick to the Kobe posts Tony.

[jzek]

20ppg 5 ast 5 rbs

I wonder who season stats those belongs too?

Yeah but those are regular season stats. Post his playoff stats...

[scm5]

Lebron will take first plane to New York and sign with the Knicks or Nets if Wade got traded.

Cleveland is looking like a much better choice than NY right now.

[Nash]

Cleveland is looking like a much better choice than NY right now.
Bringing Knicks their first championship in 100 years and be the king of New York, the biggest market in the world? You kidding? Or Brooklyn with Prokhorov deep pockets?

[FLDFSU]

I know, but I'm just saying as a team, the Heat would be better.

There is zero chance this happens, but they would improve.

I agree. It would be a short term vast improvement but no a good look long term.

That's why I say we trade Bosh for a big.

[Marchesk]

Lebron will take first plane to New York and sign with the Knicks or Nets if Wade got traded.

1. How will Lebron and Melo work?

2. You're saying Lebron would play with Pierce and Garnett?

Now it was apparent later in the playoffs that Miami with Lebron, one big and shooters on the floor were more effective than when Wade and Lebron played together. Wade's injury hurt his effectiveness, which killed their spacing.

A healthy Wade is a different story. Asik would actually be better than a hurt Wade.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Bringing Knicks their first championship in 100 years and be the king of New York, the biggest market in the world? You kidding? Or Brooklyn with Prokhorov deep pockets?

You're delusional if you really believe he would sign with the Knicks when they have one of the worst owners and front offices in the league.

[Legends66NBA7]

1. How will Lebron and Melo work?.

Not saying they would work and they probably don't even team up, but that would be an impressive duo to watch on offense. So many mismatches and range, it would be just unfair.

[SpurrDurr]

Tony now trolling Heat fans as well :lol

[KingLeBronJames]

Tony Montana's basketball knowledge is really low. His brain is the size of this...

http://www.betterbrainbetterlife.com/welcome/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/homers-shrinking-brain.jpeg

[Nash]

1. How will Lebron and Melo work?

2. You're saying Lebron would play with Pierce and Garnett?

Now it was apparent later in the playoffs that Miami with Lebron, one big and shooters on the floor were more effective than when Wade and Lebron played together. Wade's injury hurt his effectiveness, which killed their spacing.

A healthy Wade is a different story. Asik would actually be better than a hurt Wade.
Knicks would trade Melo for good pieces to build around Lebron.

[Frozen1]

Lebron has exactly zero championships playing in your logic of "give lebron the ball and everyone else camp in the three point line".

[WayOfWade]

Lebron has exactly zero championships playing in your logic of "give lebron the ball and everyone else camp in the three point line".
Has anyone ever won a championship with that logic?

[EnoughSaid]

This is where you need to differentiate between LeBron fans and Miami Heat fans.

[TonyMontana]

If we get rid of Wade we can kiss LeBron goodbye. Why the Hell would he stick around an organization that would get rid of its own like that? And it sends a bad message to free agents.

Your right, and thats what it comes down to. Keeping LeBron long term should be the long term priority. But if the Heat did what I said they would be a MUCH improved team for this upcoming year at least.

LeBron came to Miami to play with his buddies. Because of this Bosh and Wade are untouchables. The only way you see one of them get traded is if Miami is hovering around the .500 mark 30-40 games into the season(not going to happen). LeBron is a loyal guy to those he holds close to him despite what people say. All of his high school buddies still play big parts in his life and now on the Heat you got to keep that family atmosphere hes got with them. Play for your teammates. He'd rather play for and win with his buddies than play on a team that is better. He never had that in Cleveland.

about Mike Miller...

Mike Miller was huge for the Heat and they dont win rings in 2012 OR 2013 if not for his play. Hes one of the best shooters in the league and another hot hand if Allen/Battier/Chalmers are cold. The former two are VERY streaky and prone to being cold. This could put the team in a tight spot. Losing Miller is a ****ing blow. Wades knees are only going to get worse and since their going to prevent him from putting heavy work on his jumpshot your only going to see him decline more and more.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Wtf no D-Wade should play in Miami forever.

[aj1987]

Mike Miller was huge for the Heat and they dont win rings in 2012 OR 2013 if not for his play. Hes one of the best shooters in the league and another hot hand if Allen/Battier/Chalmers are cold. The former two are VERY streaky and prone to being cold. This could put the team in a tight spot. Losing Miller is a ****ing blow. Wades knees are only going to get worse and since their going to prevent him from putting heavy work on his jumpshot your only going to see him decline more and more.
Are you for real? Miami was up 3-1 in the 2012 Finals. They would've won with or without Miller. The same goes for 2013. He had a great game in which he hit 5 3's and Miami lost. Another game in which he scored 8. You're telling me that Miami would've lost if it wasn't for Miller? :facepalm .
Miami would've lost if Wade didn't go ham in Game 4 and 7.:facepalm

Wade scored 21/5/5/2/1 on 52% for the season and 20/5/4/2/1 on 48% in the Finals. You want to trade him for Allen, who's going to turn 38 and have Miller who played around 70-80 games in the past 3 seasons?
Lets see
Lebron
Chalmers
Allen (38 years old)
Asik
Miller (broken back and can't play more than a couple of dozen games a season)
Battier (who actually planned on retiring)
Bosh
I would be surprised if they made it out of the 1st round.

[TonyMontana]

Are you for real? Miami was up 3-1 in the 2012 Finals. They would've won with or without Miller. The same goes for 2013. He had a great game in which he hit 5 3's and Miami lost. Another game in which he scored 8. You're telling me that Miami would've lost if it wasn't for Miller? :facepalm .
Miami would've lost if Wade didn't go ham in Game 4 and 7.:facepalm

Wade scored 21/5/5/2/1 on 52% for the season and 20/5/4/2/1 on 48% in the Finals. You want to trade him for Allen, who's going to turn 38 and have Miller who played around 70-80 games in the past 3 seasons?
Lets see
Lebron
Chalmers
Allen (38 years old)
Asik
Miller (broken back and can't play more than a couple of dozen games a season)
Battier (who actually planned on retiring)
Bosh
I would be surprised if they made it out of the 1st round.

Miller doesn't need to score points to do his role. Just him standing at the three point line stretches the defense and opens lanes lanes for LeBron. The team was much better with him out there. Thats why Spo gave him minutes in the Finals. Most of the time Wade is out there, he isn't a threat to do anything. Hes just an athletic utility man out there. But because he can't shoot LeBron can't get inside as effectively.

This team is only going as far as LeBron takes them. Building around him is of the utmost priority, espesically since Wade is 31 and extremely injury prone. Look at 2011 to see what happens when LeBron isn't featured. Wade certainly isn't going to carry them to a ring.

If Wades mid range game is consistant and there on a nightly basis, he is still an elite player in the league. Your problem is when he can't make a jumpshot and he is trying for that lame pump fake EVERY TIME. Defenses catch on, and dare him to shoot. He had no confidence in that shot for most of the playoffs. He can't put the reps in because his knees are bad.

If money is a problem for this team, the 6'3 guard that makes 20 million and can't make a jumpshot is the first thing I would look at.

[aj1987]

Miller doesn't need to score points to do his role. Just him standing at the three point line stretches the defense and opens lanes lanes for LeBron. The team was much better with him out there. Thats why Spo gave him minutes in the Finals. Most of the time Wade is out there, he isn't a threat to do anything. Hes just an athletic utility man out there. But because he can't shoot LeBron can't get inside as effectively.
So, you want Mike Miller instead of Wade, to just stand in the corner for the 30-40 games he plays? Lets not forget that Miller will give up thrice what he scores on the defensive end. Wade is just an athletic "utility man"? Dude scored 20/4/5/2/1 on 48% in the Finals. He was the second highest scorer on the team and played pretty good defense. If Miami didn't have Wade, they would've gotten swept. Miller is 33 with a broken back and can't play defense. He played 70-80 games in the last 3 seasons! Lebron is not going to average 35/8/8 or whatever. They need Wade's scoring and defense.


Look at 2011 to see what happens when LeBron isn't featured. Wade certainly isn't going to carry them to a ring.
I saw Wade about to win his FMVP, only if Lebron did choke so bad. Wade doesn't need to carry the team, but Lebron needs Wade. The heat need his 20/5/5 on 50% and his defense.


If money is a problem for this team, the 6'3 guard that makes 20 million and can't make a jumpshot is the first thing I would look at.
Even without a jumpshot, Wade averaged 21 on 52% (16 shots per game). Wade was a top 7 player in the league.

[TonyMontana]

I saw Wade about to win his FMVP, only if Lebron did choke so bad. Wade doesn't need to carry the team, but Lebron needs Wade. The heat need his 20/5/5 on 50% and his defense.


Miami is 11-0(undefeated) in playoff series in which LeBron scores 20+ PPG.
Miami is 0-1(winless) in playoff series in which LeBron scores less than 20 PPG.

On the other hand, Miami is 5-0 when Wade scores LESS than 20 PPG.

Miami won a championship with Wade averaging 15 PPG on 49.8 TS%(****ing terrible) for an entire playoff run. He can't get to the free throw line, and he can't space the floor.

But when LeBron averages 17.8 PPG 7.2 RPG 6.8 APG on 47.8% shooting, the Heat can't win a single series.

And Wade didn't average 20 PPG in ANY series this year. Stop throwing that shit around.


Even without a jumpshot, Wade averaged 21 on 52% (16 shots per game). Wade was a top 7 player in the league.

Wade is better in the regular season because there are more fastbreak oppurtunities.

My concern isn't the regular season, the Heat are going to get a top seed regardless. The Heat are so much better than most teams they just run up and down the court most nights. Wade shines in these moments when he can get layup after layup.

But in the playoffs when teams slow the game down, he is a liability in the halfcourt. Couldn't do anything against the fcuking Milwaukee Bucks.

The only people that think Wade is a top 7 player in the NBA are Sportscenter fans that dont know the game. You probably got Kobe in your top 3 too. :oldlol:

[Doranku]

First time I ever have agreed with OP.

Wade is washed up, and will only continue to decline. Not to mention he and LeBron are a terrible duo that still haven't learned to coexist.

[bluechox2]

what people will remember in 20 years, "X"-time world champion wade carried lebron to "X-1" world championships

[secund2nun]

Miami is 11-0(undefeated) in playoff series in which LeBron scores 20+ PPG.
Miami is 0-1(winless) in playoff series in which LeBron scores less than 20 PPG.

On the other hand, Miami is 5-0 when Wade scores LESS than 20 PPG.

Miami won a championship with Wade averaging 15 PPG on 49.8 TS%(****ing terrible) for an entire playoff run. He can't get to the free throw line, and he can't space the floor.

But when LeBron averages 17.8 PPG 7.2 RPG 6.8 APG on 47.8% shooting, the Heat can't win a single series.

And Wade didn't average 20 PPG in ANY series this year. Stop throwing that shit around.


Wade is better in the regular season because there are more fastbreak oppurtunities.

My concern isn't the regular season, the Heat are going to get a top seed regardless. The Heat are so much better than most teams they just run up and down the court most nights. Wade shines in these moments when he can get layup after layup.

But in the playoffs when teams slow the game down, he is a liability in the halfcourt. Couldn't do anything against the fcuking Milwaukee Bucks.

The only people that think Wade is a top 7 player in the NBA are Sportscenter fans that dont know the game. You probably got Kobe in your top 3 too. :oldlol:

Classic masterpiece post. Agree with everything. Wade is the biggest burden for Miami.

[KOLBCTEW]

Miami is 11-0(undefeated) in playoff series in which LeBron scores 20+ PPG.
On the other hand, Miami is 5-0 when Wade scores LESS than 20 PPG.

Miami won a championship with Wade averaging 15 PPG on 49.8 TS%(****ing terrible) for an entire playoff run. He can't get to the free throw line, and he can't space the floor.

But when LeBron averages 17.8 PPG 7.2 RPG 6.8 APG on 47.8% shooting, the Heat can't win a single series.

And Wade didn't average 20 PPG in ANY series this year. Stop throwing that shit around.


Wade is better in the regular season because there are more fastbreak oppurtunities.

My concern isn't the regular season, the Heat are going to get a top seed regardless. The Heat are so much better than most teams they just run up and down the court most nights. Wade shines in these moments when he can get layup after layup.

But in the playoffs when teams slow the game down, he is a liability in the halfcourt. Couldn't do anything against the fcuking Milwaukee Bucks.

The only people that think Wade is a top 7 player in the NBA are Sportscenter fans that dont know the game. You probably got Kobe in your top 3 too. :oldlol:
OF course your ignoring the fact he was injured during that stretch which is why he was hampered for much of his series.

Miami is 0-1(winless) in playoff series in which LeBron scores less than 20 PPG.
You're using a one game sample size... Really?!!



Couldn't do anything against the fcuking Milwaukee Bucks. Uh why would he need to exert himself against the Bucks... it's the Bucks....
You don't seem to realize that because he was injured he had to pick his spots and pace himself. So in crucial games he was clearly more aggressive as opposed to other games when he was passive.


But when LeBron averages 17.8 PPG 7.2 RPG 6.8 APG on 47.8% shooting, the Heat can't win a single series.
On the other hand, Miami is 5-0 when Wade scores LESS than 20 PPG. As the primary ball handler and leader in FGA its not exactly surprising that if Lebron has a subpar game they would likely lose, especially if Wade is unable to help consistently with the scoring load and Bosh being inexplicably absent for a lot of the series.



Wade is the biggest burden for Miami. An injured Wade maybe, as would any injury to one of their star players...

[Goliath Uterus]

Yeah but those are regular season stats. Post his playoff stats...


23ppg 5rb 5ast 1st 1blk ....

[SilkkTheShocker]

what people will remember in 20 years, "X"-time world champion wade carried lebron to "X-1" world championships

How many titles does Melo have?

[SilkkTheShocker]

23ppg 5rb 5ast 1st 1blk ....

I don't think he should be amnesty'ed. But Wade averaged 15ppg last postseason.

[SpecialQue]

http://i.qkme.me/3t5o96.jpg

[Magic 32]

The mutiny would be complete.

[aj1987]

Miami is 11-0(undefeated) in playoff series in which LeBron scores 20+ PPG.
Miami is 0-1(winless) in playoff series in which LeBron scores less than 20 PPG.

On the other hand, Miami is 5-0 when Wade scores LESS than 20 PPG. /

Miami won a championship with Wade averaging 15 PPG on 49.8 TS%(****ing terrible) for an entire playoff run. He can't get to the free throw line, and he can't space the floor.
Once again, Lebron needs Wade. There's a reason he came to Miami and it's not the weather. I'd take Wade on one leg over Allen and Miller combined. Miller total points in the Finals is about the same as what Wade scored in Game 4. If Wade didn't score 20/4/5/2/1 on 48% in the Finals, the Heat would've lost. Miller and Allen SUCK on the defensive end and neither can sustain a full season of playing 36+ MPG.

Since when did you start using TS%, BTW? Aren't you one of the idiots, who calls Kobe a chucker because he's a career 46% shooter and completely disregard his TS%?


But when LeBron averages 17.8 PPG 7.2 RPG 6.8 APG on 47.8% shooting, the Heat can't win a single series.
8 point game. Got outplayed by Jason Terry. Got outscored by the Jet. Shat his pants during the 4th quarters. Should I go on?


And Wade didn't average 20 PPG in ANY series this year. Stop throwing that shit around.
My bad. Wade averaged 19.6 in the Finals.:facepalm


Wade is better in the regular season because there are more fastbreak oppurtunities.

My concern isn't the regular season, the Heat are going to get a top seed regardless. The Heat are so much better than most teams they just run up and down the court most nights. Wade shines in these moments when he can get layup after layup.
Wade is actually one of the better playoff performers and one of the best Finals performers. He was hurt and hence he played like crap till the Finals. 2006 Finals >>>>>> anything that Lebron has EVER done. You would know this if you watched Miami pre 2012 championship.


But in the playoffs when teams slow the game down, he is a liability in the halfcourt. Couldn't do anything against the fcuking Milwaukee Bucks.
Lebron is the one who plays like a passive bitch when defenses clamp down on him. Do you just watch Lebron play and close your eyes when others are playing? Wade had the midrange going for him and had a great post game for a couple of months. He was averaging 24/5/6 for a while, after the slow start. He got hurt during the end of the season and yet he scored 20/4/5 in the Finals. Who gives a shit about the Bucks. Miami would've swept them without Wade AND Bosh. Try watching the games for a change and not just Lebron highlights on YouTube.


The only people that think Wade is a top 7 player in the NBA are Sportscenter fans that dont know the game. You probably got Kobe in your top 3 too. :oldlol:
Holy crap, you're retarded.
Lebron
Durant
CP3
Kobe
Melo
and who else? Wade is better than Curry and Harden, who are complete liabilities on defense. Any non Lebron nut rider (people who are over 12 and actually know basketball) know this.

[Nuff Said]

I'd rather them get rid of Bosh. Wade could have both legs amputated and I still wouldn't want to get rid of him. He brought us our FIRST championship. No way any true miami fan would want him ousted. Shit, I'd rather amnesty lebron before we get rid of Wade. Wade County!

[TonyMontana]

Once again, Lebron needs Wade. There's a reason he came to Miami and it's not the weather. I'd take Wade on one leg over Allen and Miller combined. Miller total points in the Finals is about the same as what Wade scored in Game 4. If Wade didn't score 20/4/5/2/1 on 48% in the Finals, the Heat would've lost. Miller and Allen SUCK on the defensive end and neither can sustain a full season of playing 36+ MPG.

Since when did you start using TS%, BTW? Aren't you one of the idiots, who calls Kobe a chucker because he's a career 46% shooter and completely disregard his TS%?

This isn't 2011 Wade. This is 2013 Wade. Two years in basketball is a long time and a lot can change. And Wade didn't average 20 PPG in a single series this postseason, stop throwing that shit around.

Just because some dicksucker who has a Wade avatar on a forum would take him over Ray Allen and Mike Miller doesn't mean everyone would.

Wades FG% is now on par with Kobes, but Kobe at least gets to the free throw line and can hit threes. Thats what the TS% is showing. Wade used to, but at this stage of his career he can't even do that. Defenders know what hes going to do and since they know their not going to get caught and have to foul. The lame pump fake and drive....EVERY time. :facepalm



My bad. Wade averaged 19.6 in the Finals.:facepalm


And for Wade these days thats considered a good series. :oldlol:

LeBron averaged 17.8 PPG(only 1.8 off) and everyone is on his nuts.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:



Wade is actually one of the better playoff performers and one of the best Finals performers. He was hurt and hence he played like crap till the Finals. 2006 Finals >>>>>> anything that Lebron has EVER done. You would know this if you watched Miami pre 2012 championship.


Wades 2006 series is the best individual series of any player ever.

But that doesn't have ANYTHING to do with 2013, where he is a liability,overpaid, and sucks. Stop trying to act like hes the same player.

15 PPG and 49 TS% for one of the best playoff performers all-time eh? It will only get worse from here. Wait til next years playoffs.



Lebron is the one who plays like a passive bitch when defenses clamp down on him. Do you just watch Lebron play and close your eyes when others are playing? Wade had the midrange going for him and had a great post game for a couple of months. He was averaging 24/5/6 for a while, after the slow start. He got hurt during the end of the season and yet he scored 20/4/5 in the Finals. Who gives a shit about the Bucks. Miami would've swept them without Wade AND Bosh. Try watching the games for a change and not just Lebron highlights on YouTube.

This shit isn't even worth a response.

Talking shit about LeBron and propping up Wade despite LeBron being the one who carries the Heat to wins. This is the epitome of a stan. One who ignores facts and what actually happens just to argue for their favorite player. Pathetic.



Holy crap, you're retarded.
Lebron
Durant
CP3
Kobe
Melo
and who else? Wade is better than Curry and Harden, who are complete liabilities on defense. Any non Lebron nut rider (people who are over 12 and actually know basketball) know this.

You think the Warriors would accept Wade for Curry? The Rockets would accept Wade for Harden?

:oldlol:

Just look in the mirror to see who the real retard is kid.

[LikeABosh]

Come back when Wade averages 22+ on 50+% shootinf next season

[TonyMontana]

Come back when Wade averages 22+ on 50+% shootinf next season

I dont care what he averages in the regular season.

If he can average that in next years playoffs sign me up. :cheers:

[Doranku]

Come back when Wade averages 22+ on 50+% shootinf next season

22 minutes on 50% of games played?

[KOLBCTEW]

This isn't 2011 Wade. This is 2013 Wade. Two years in basketball is a long time and a lot can change. In 2013, Just a few months ago Wade was playing much like his old self... not sure what you're talking about.
And Wade didn't average 20 PPG in a single series this postseason, stop throwing that shit around. Rounded up its 20ppg..


Just because some dicksucker who has a Wade avatar on a forum would take him over Ray Allen and Mike Miller doesn't mean everyone would. No one with sense would take an over-the-hill Ray Allen and a Mike Miller who happens to be substantially more injury prone that Wade and think they could adequately supplant his minutes and his role over an entire season.


Wades FG% is now on par with Kobes, but Kobe at least gets to the free throw line Thats what the TS% is showing. Wade used to, but at this stage of his career he can't even do that. Again... just a few months ago he was doing Just that.






And for Wade these days thats considered a good series. :oldlol:

LeBron averaged 17.8 PPG(only 1.8 off) and everyone is on his nuts.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: Uh difference is Wade has become the second option, Lebron is the the first meaning he plays more minutes, has the ball more and takes the most shots...



15 PPG and 49 TS% for one of the best playoff performers all-time eh? It will only get worse from here. Wait til next years playoffs. So what you're officially predicting he'll do worse next year.

[red1]

How can someone be an lbj fanboy yet hate on dwade? This shit is beyond obnoxious. Has it not occurred to you that your mancrush would be ringless without dwade da gawd? Any real heat fan would respect dwade and realize that he will come back stronger than these past two seasons.

[KG215]

Look at 2011 to see what happens when LeBron isn't featured. Wade certainly isn't going to carry them to a ring.
pauk...is that you?

[305Baller]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/923112/heat.gif

[GrapeApe]

I hate LeBron stans masquerading as Heat fans. Wade was excellent last season and his playoff struggles are overblown. The Bucks and Bulls had no chance to beat Miami. He struggled against the Pacers but still made some huge plays and had a strong game 7. He was very good in the Finals. People also forget that his midrange jumper was outstanding prior to him getting hurt, particularly during the win streak. I expect him to have another 20/5/5/2/1 50% season and if healthy, a vintage playoff run. Real Heat fans have learned not to doubt him and I won't start now.

[DaSeba5]

I'm so tired of these fake Heat fans.

[poido123]

Your right, and thats what it comes down to. Keeping LeBron long term should be the long term priority. But if the Heat did what I said they would be a MUCH improved team for this upcoming year at least.

LeBron came to Miami to play with his buddies. Because of this Bosh and Wade are untouchables. The only way you see one of them get traded is if Miami is hovering around the .500 mark 30-40 games into the season(not going to happen). LeBron is a loyal guy to those he holds close to him despite what people say. All of his high school buddies still play big parts in his life and now on the Heat you got to keep that family atmosphere hes got with them. Play for your teammates. He'd rather play for and win with his buddies than play on a team that is better. He never had that in Cleveland.

about Mike Miller...

Mike Miller was huge for the Heat and they dont win rings in 2012 OR 2013 if not for his play. Hes one of the best shooters in the league and another hot hand if Allen/Battier/Chalmers are cold. The former two are VERY streaky and prone to being cold. This could put the team in a tight spot. Losing Miller is a ****ing blow. Wades knees are only going to get worse and since their going to prevent him from putting heavy work on his jumpshot your only going to see him decline more and more.


Stop dumbing down ISH, take your hands off the keyboard and go do something else. ANYTHING.

[Bigsmoke]

give the **** would continue to pay an injury prone player 6 million dollars a year to average 4ppg and 3rbp?

I don't know ISH is making a big deal about this. He is over the hill and expensive especially since the Heat already have a bunch of 3 point shooters in their roster already.

I understand he's white and loveable and all that but the big picture is cap space and Mike isn't cutting it for what he is worth.

[poido123]

I'm so tired of these fake Heat fans.

It's bound to happen.

Fans often mirror favourite player's personalities.

Lebron being the jerkoff diva that he is, I can certainly see some Heat fans like that in real life too.

Look no further than Tony Montana and Silktheshocker

[SpecialQue]

I'm so tired of these fake Heat fans.

As a Laker fan, believe me when I say I feel your pain.

[Bigsmoke]

Holy crap, you're retarded.
Lebron
Durant
CP3
Kobe
Melo
and who else? Wade is better than Curry and Harden, who are complete liabilities on defense. Any non Lebron nut rider (people who are over 12 and actually know basketball) know this.

I respect Wade for giving my city tons of money for schools and libraries and that kind of stuff but I think Curry is currently a better player until otherwise. James Harden is also a better player and I love Wade a lot more. "no homo"

[secund2nun]

Holy crap, you're retarded.
Lebron
Durant
CP3
Kobe
Melo
and who else? Wade is better than Curry and Harden, who are complete liabilities on defense. Any non Lebron nut rider (people who are over 12 and actually know basketball) know this.

LOL Melo, Kobe, and Wade are not top 10 players. Howard, Duncan and even KG are easily better than those 3. Stop underrated big men just because the media does not hype them up.

Don't fall for the overrated media hype chucker perimeter player hype (though Wade isn't a chucker but still not top 10).

[Bigsmoke]

LOL Melo, Kobe, and Wade are not top 10 players. Howard, Duncan and even KG are easily better than those 3. Stop underrated big men just because the media does not hype them up.

Don't fall for the overrated media hype chucker perimeter player hype (though Wade isn't a chucker but still not top 10).

KG?

[secund2nun]

KG?

KG at this stage is still a border line top 10 player it can be argued. I'd take him over Melo, Wade, and Kobe. He is still a damn good post anchor, but health and age limit his minutes.

[Bigsmoke]

KG at this stage is still a border line top 10 player it can be argued. I'd take him over Melo, Wade, and Kobe. He is still a damn good post anchor, but health and age limit his minutes.

Marc, Roy Hibbert, PG, Lee.... there are SOO many guys I would pick over KG right now that aren't top 10 material.

KG is maybe top 30 right now

[GrapeApe]

LOL Melo, Kobe, and Wade are not top 10 players. Howard, Duncan and even KG are easily better than those 3. Stop underrated big men just because the media does not hype them up.

Don't fall for the overrated media hype chucker perimeter player hype (though Wade isn't a chucker but still not top 10).

Melo, Kobe, and Wade were easily top 10 players last year. If you want to argue they won't be next year due to age/injuries that's fine, but all three were outstanding last year.

[Frozen1]

I think we should stop feeding the troll, Tonymontana is the worst poster here, only make arguments and looks at the side that fit his agenda.

I think most people here do not have a problemem with lebron, but do have with his extremists stans.

By the way, if it wasn

[secund2nun]

Melo, Kobe, and Wade were easily top 10 players last year. If you want to argue they won't be next year due to age/injuries that's fine, but all three were outstanding last year.


None were even close to top 10 players. Kobe was one of the worst defensive players in the NBA and does nothing but score, and it's not like he scores super efficient like Durant or Lebron. Also he is a ball stopper on offense and doesn't help much on the boards.

Wade was good, but definitely top 10 good. No way Wade was better than players Hibbert, Duncan, Gasol etc. The playoffs against the better Ds further exposed how far Wade has fallen.

And Melo...don't get me started on Melo. At no point in his career has he ever been a top 10 player and he never will. He can't defend, he can't pass and is a black hole. He will give you like 6 rpg and usually give you shot jacking inefficient scoring.

[secund2nun]

Marc, Roy Hibbert, PG, Lee.... there are SOO many guys I would pick over KG right now that aren't top 10 material.

KG is maybe top 30 right now

I'd take Gasol, Hibbert and some others over KG as well, but i'd still take KG over Wade, Kobe, and Melo. KG overall may not be top 10 anymore bc he is limited with mins from age, injury, but when he plays he is very good.

[Bigsmoke]

I'd take Gasol, Hibbert and some others over KG as well, but i'd still take KG over Wade, Kobe, and Melo. KG overall may not be top 10 anymore bc he is limited with mins from age, injury, but when he plays he is very good.

I can see why you are not hired as an NBA GM

[Jacks3]

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[Heavincent]

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[b1imtf]

Besides being retarded enough to want to trade Wade, you want to send him to the same team as Harden? ****ing retard

[Fresh Kid]

TonyMontana is one of the most unintelligent delusional unfunny posters on this board.. wade is the 2nd best player on the heat since 2011, he might Been 20% hurt, but he still help that team won their 2nd title in 2 years, without wade= no titles.

[Doctor Rivers]

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[Jacks3]

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[Blue&Orange]

He provides no value to the team except for upping his stats in regular season blowouts via layup lines.

Lebron did this in the finals while Wade kept the Heat alive.

[Jacks3]

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[Young X]

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[Fresh Kid]

This is one of the most retarded threads that I seen in my life.

[Le Shaqtus]

Says he's a Heat fan. Says they should trade Wade.

Slowly approaching Euroleague in terrible trolling standards.