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Doctor Rivers
07-17-2013, 11:42 AM
Wiggins response to the NBA player he would want to play 1on1: 'Kobe. he's the closest thing to Jordan & Jordan's the greatest of all time'
https://twitter.com/KP_Rivals/status/357517022839586816

Typical Kobe stan

christian1923
07-17-2013, 11:48 AM
https://twitter.com/KP_Rivals/status/357517022839586816

Typical Kobe stan
Is he wrong?:confusedshrug:

riseagainst
07-17-2013, 11:50 AM
it's just his opinion. No need to get worked up about this.
Inb4 lebron fans belittling Kobe and Wiggins. :oldlol:

branslowski
07-17-2013, 11:56 AM
I said it 20times, I'll say it again...Wiggins is the next Kobe/Jordan/Wade type player...And Wiggins confidence is amazing. And ofcource you would wanna play against Kobe, he's the greatest of his era...Although Brons era is now.

Its like Kobe= Nas
LeBron= Drake
Wiggins= J Cole

Jordan= Biggie

Twiens
07-17-2013, 11:57 AM
Sensitive Lebron fans now on the Jabari Parker bandwagon instead:oldlol:

Inactive
07-17-2013, 11:59 AM
He's too young to have watched Jordan; typical indeed. :D

He's right though.

wang4three
07-17-2013, 12:00 PM
Andrw Wiggins was 3 when Jordan won his last title.

poido123
07-17-2013, 12:02 PM
I think he is pretty talented. Too early to call, but my first thought was he is a bit overrated.

riseagainst
07-17-2013, 12:02 PM
I said it 20times, I'll say it again...Wiggins is the next Kobe/Jordan/Wade type player...And Wiggins confidence is amazing. And ofcource you would wanna play against Kobe, he's the greatest of his era...Although Brons era is now.

Its like Kobe= Nas
LeBron= Drake
Wiggins= J Cole

Jordan= Biggie


Tupac > Biggie, imo.

LikeABosh
07-17-2013, 12:14 PM
Well Kobe has spent his career trying to emulate Jordan. Lebron is a different player

AintNoSunshine
07-17-2013, 12:19 PM
He is tho, in terms of style of play and the drive and what not, best since? heck no, nobody is stupid enough to believe that

Beatlezz
07-17-2013, 12:22 PM
I said it 20times, I'll say it again...Wiggins is the next Kobe/Jordan/Wade type player...And Wiggins confidence is amazing. And ofcource you would wanna play against Kobe, he's the greatest of his era...Although Brons era is now.

Its like Kobe= Nas
LeBron= Nelly
Wiggins= J Cole

Jordan= Biggie

Fixed

DuMa
07-17-2013, 12:24 PM
kids these days dont know shit about basketball history

AlphaWolf24
07-17-2013, 12:25 PM
Fixed


:lol

Timing is everything..well done sir

riseagainst
07-17-2013, 12:26 PM
Fixed

:roll:

Solefade
07-17-2013, 12:36 PM
I said it 20times, I'll say it again...Wiggins is the next Kobe/Jordan/Wade type player...And Wiggins confidence is amazing. And ofcource you would wanna play against Kobe, he's the greatest of his era...Although Brons era is now.

Its like Kobe= Nas
LeBron= Drake
Wiggins= J Cole

Jordan= Biggie

J. Cole is whack and overrated AF. If he really is as good as advertised, he'd be Kendrick Lamar and LeBron would be Kanye for being an innovator of the game :P

branslowski
07-17-2013, 12:36 PM
Fixed

Cold blooded:oldlol:

branslowski
07-17-2013, 12:38 PM
J. Cole is whack and overrated AF. If he really is as good as advertised, he'd be Kendrick Lamar and LeBron would be Kanye for being an innovator of the game :P

You just said J Cole is whack? Please tell me ur not one of those white ppl who only listen to mainstream:facepalm

DaSeba5
07-17-2013, 12:39 PM
Well yah Kobe plays the same way as Jordan.

SilkkTheShocker
07-17-2013, 12:39 PM
Kobe as Nas is a bad comparison. Nas' best album was his first one, Illmatic. Kobe wasn't even good enough to start for the Lakers when he came to LA. Plus who even talks about Nas anymore? Im sure there are way better comparisons.

Solefade
07-17-2013, 12:43 PM
You just said J Cole is whack? Please tell me ur not one of those white ppl who only listen to mainstream:facepalm


No I am not, J. Cole is boring as hell. Dude's been talking about the struggle and it's the only thing he's rapped about since his first two mix tapes (which were way better than any of his albums). OVERRATED.

Kobe is more like Eminem...raised by Dre (Shaq) :roll:

chosen_one6
07-17-2013, 12:45 PM
Kobe tries to emulate Jordan in literally every facet of his life, right down to his mannerisms and voice tone. So of course the little kids are going to say something like this.

BoutPractice
07-17-2013, 12:57 PM
If Wiggins turns out to be J.Cole, then he certainly won't live up to the next Jordan, or even next Kobe, comparison... J.Cole is great, but Kendrick Lamar is on a different level. His rap feels more sincere, spontaneous... he's deeper without trying as hard, and manages to touch something beyond himself. The classic definition of a genius, whereas J.Cole is "only" someone who does his job really, really well.

Jordan would be Nas or maybe Tupac, and LeBron Kanye. Kobe as Eminem works well too.

But anyway, back on topic, it's not like Wiggins is saying anything blasphemous, really... It's pretty much consensus opinion that Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan we've seen, regardless of what one thinks about him.

Solefade
07-17-2013, 12:59 PM
If Wiggins turns out to be J.Cole, then he certainly won't live up to the next Jordan, or even next Kobe, comparison... J.Cole is great, but Kendrick Lamar is on a different level. His rap feels more sincere, spontaneous... he's deeper without trying as hard, and manages to touch something beyond himself. The classic definition of a genius, whereas J.Cole is "only" someone who does his job really, really well.

Jordan would be Nas or maybe Tupac, and LeBron Kanye. Kobe as Eminem works well too.

But anyway, back on topic, it's not like Wiggins is saying anything blasphemous, really... It's pretty much consensus opinion that Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan we've seen, regardless of what one thinks about him.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

I<3NBA
07-17-2013, 01:01 PM
"closest thing" is still TOO FAR AWAY.

that's how good Jordan was.

chosen_one6
07-17-2013, 01:20 PM
If Wiggins turns out to be J.Cole, then he certainly won't live up to the next Jordan, or even next Kobe, comparison... J.Cole is great, but Kendrick Lamar is on a different level. His rap feels more sincere, spontaneous... he's deeper without trying as hard, and manages to touch something beyond himself. The classic definition of a genius, whereas J.Cole is "only" someone who does his job really, really well.

Jordan would be Nas or maybe Tupac, and LeBron Kanye. Kobe as Eminem works well too.

But anyway, back on topic, it's not like Wiggins is saying anything blasphemous, really... It's pretty much consensus opinion that Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan we've seen, regardless of what one thinks about him.

:biggums:

RRR3
07-17-2013, 01:26 PM
Big L and Big pun tho>>>>
2Pac is best to me but those two had maybe most ability

kamil
07-17-2013, 01:31 PM
Typical Kobe stan

What a dumbass comment. Wiggins will be closer to being the next Jordan than you will ever be close to getting laid.

Doctor Rivers
07-17-2013, 01:43 PM
What a dumbass comment. Wiggins will be closer to being the next Jordan than you will ever be close to getting laid.

lol i guess my sarcasm didn't come across well

ThaRegul8r
07-17-2013, 01:45 PM
https://twitter.com/KP_Rivals/status/357517022839586816

Typical Kobe stan

He's 18 years old. He never even saw Jordan play.

Unbiased_one
07-17-2013, 01:47 PM
https://twitter.com/KP_Rivals/status/357517022839586816

Typical Kobe stan

How the **** would he know who the closest to Jordan if he never watched Jordan...but he's right that kobe is the most similar recent player to jordan

waseem780
07-17-2013, 03:01 PM
He's 18 years old. He never even saw Jordan play.
there's something called video's..... And if he said "Kobe's the best player ever" you would be bashing him for not saying Jordon..... Idiot.

sportjames23
07-17-2013, 03:02 PM
:oldlol: How did I know this clown would respond


You've been lurking here long enough to know. :oldlol:

RoundMoundOfReb
07-17-2013, 03:03 PM
He's 18 years old. He never even saw Jordan play.
Exactly. Typical Kobe Stan

STATUTORY
07-17-2013, 03:05 PM
How the **** would he know who the closest to Jordan if he never watched Jordan...but he's right that kobe is the most similar recent player to jordan

they had something called VHS even back when Jordan played. You might wanna look that up.

Tking714
07-17-2013, 03:15 PM
You dont get as good as Wiggins without knowing or seeing film of the greatest who has ever played your respective sport or activity. The same way an upcoming heavyweight boxer would watch film of Ali, Tyson, Foreman, Frazier, etc. People acting like its impossible in the Youtube era

LBJ 23
07-17-2013, 03:20 PM
lol i guess my sarcasm didn't come across well


It did. It's just that he's a bit slow

Legends66NBA7
07-17-2013, 03:21 PM
I like how that even though Wiggins was too young to have watched Jordan play out live and understand the time (what people were saying about Jordan in his prime, etc...) that he considers him the GOAT, but he's got the "well I've watched tape of him" card used by some posters on here.... who will then turn it around on other ISH posters on here and say that "it doesn't count" for posters on here who have watched Jordan of YouTube, VHS tapes, etc... because they are too young.

Talk about double standards on here when your actually a "name" or not.

Unbiased_one
07-17-2013, 03:30 PM
they had something called VHS even back when Jordan played. You might wanna look that up.

If you don't live in the same time as a player, then you can't possibly understand how good they are...you have to understand the era. It's one reason I am loathe to make judgements on Russell, wilt and kaj.

Tking714
07-17-2013, 03:43 PM
I like how that even though Wiggins was too young to have watched Jordan play out live and understand the time (what people were saying about Jordan in his prime, etc...) that he considers him the GOAT, but he's got the "well I've watched tape of him" card used by some posters on here.... who will then turn it around on other ISH posters on here and say that "it doesn't count" for posters on here who have watched Jordan of YouTube, VHS tapes, etc... because they are too young.

Talk about double standards on here when your actually a "name" or not.

It's different for a soon to be #1 pick who is perfecting said craft and actually studying/taking context and sport history/shot clock situation/ on court demeanor/ defensive strategy into account, than a fat homer stan trying to win a Kobe/Lebron/Jordan argument.

WolfGang
07-17-2013, 03:45 PM
Hasn't this thread been made like 100, 000, 000 times. Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan. How many times must we hear this?

Legends66NBA7
07-17-2013, 03:56 PM
It's different for a soon to be #1 pick who is perfecting said craft and actually studying/taking context and sport history/shot clock situation/ on court demeanor/ defensive strategy into account, than a fat homer stan trying to win a Kobe/Lebron/Jordan argument.

Outside of saying "studying the craft", what makes you say that a certain "homer" hasn't been studying the history of the game, basketball rules, situations, etc... ? Besides, it wasn't just them, but the younger generation coming up. I bet there are kids right now who were born in 2004 who will say Jordan is the best too right now and if they really want to be a great basketball player, their view will get held highly.

Magic Johnson is also a former #1 overall pick and he's been blasted on here for his "flip-flopping" and otherwise lukewarm basketball understanding.

It's good Wiggins has an opinion. Lot of people would agree with it. But I think he's saying what he's saying from what he's seen and heard, not that that's a bad thing. Who wouldn't want to emulate Jordan ? There's much tape out there on the Wilt's, Kareem's, Russell's, Magic's and Bird's... Jordan is usually accumulated as the best and he's probably seen a lot of Kobe Bryant and other greats. It's only natural he would view them as the best that he's seen/heard.

For me personally, I like to formulate an opinion with what I can gather (factual, little to no bias in an opinion from quotes, etc...). It could be an opinion just like Wiggins or different.

KyleKong
07-17-2013, 04:04 PM
Wiggins will be a bigger bust than Len Bias.

Holy shit Silkk.

Inferno
07-17-2013, 04:20 PM
Kobe as Nas is a bad comparison. Nas' best album was his first one, Illmatic. Kobe wasn't even good enough to start for the Lakers when he came to LA. Plus who even talks about Nas anymore? Im sure there are way better comparisons.

Life is Good, the album Nas released 18 years into his career, sold 150k first week :facepalm :facepalm

Tking714
07-17-2013, 04:20 PM
Outside of saying "studying the craft", what makes you say that a certain "homer" hasn't been studying the history of the game, basketball rules, situations, etc... ? Besides, it wasn't just them, but the younger generation coming up. I bet there are kids right now who were born in 2004 who will say Jordan is the best too right now and if they really want to be a great basketball player, their view will get held highly.

Magic Johnson is also a former #1 overall pick and he's been blasted on here for his "flip-flopping" and otherwise lukewarm basketball understanding.

It's good Wiggins has an opinion. Lot of people would agree with it. But I think he's saying what he's saying from what he's seen and heard, not that that's a bad thing. Who wouldn't want to emulate Jordan ? There's much tape out there on the Wilt's, Kareem's, Russell's, Magic's and Bird's... Jordan is usually accumulated as the best and he's probably seen a lot of Kobe Bryant and other greats. It's only natural he would view them as the best that he's seen/heard.

For me personally, I like to formulate an opinion with what I can gather (factual, little to no bias in an opinion from quotes, etc...). It could be an opinion just like Wiggins or different.

I agree with everything especially the bolded. The difference between us and him is always going to be that he was successful in putting it into practice. Actions will always hold heavier. Opinions are opinions, but I like to believe that you don't get that good without copying the absolute greatest(which is subject to opinion); while taking into account that every other great has something just as valuable if not more valuable in their games to emulate.

I'm not gonna be too long winded here. Because the truth of the matter is. You can get a board of 50 experts, hall of famers, and extremely knowledgeable fans. Have them come to a decision and at the end of the day it will be "wrong" as long as one person thinks that. You put this argument on the path to becoming really meta lol.

ThaRegul8r
07-18-2013, 12:27 AM
there's something called video's..... And if he said "Kobe's the best player ever" you would be bashing him for not saying Jordon..... Idiot.

Ad hominems are truly the mark of an intelligent mind.

And the second sentence illustrates that you've never actually read any posts of mine and that you made a statement without knowing what you're talking about.

Shocker.

KOBE143
07-18-2013, 12:37 AM
Wiggins is a very smart kid.. Wish him to follow Kobe's path and not LeBron if he want to be more successful and a great player..

Fresh Kid
07-18-2013, 12:38 AM
Wiggins is right.

G-Funk
07-18-2013, 10:29 PM
Wiggins knows basketball.

Jacks3
07-18-2013, 10:32 PM
Kobe shot 70% at the rim in 2013 AND had the best shooting numbers in the mid-range area. Very Jordan-esque indeed. :applause:

G-Funk
07-18-2013, 10:32 PM
I said it 20times, I'll say it again...Wiggins is the next Kobe/Jordan/Wade type player...And Wiggins confidence is amazing. And ofcource you would wanna play against Kobe, he's the greatest of his era...Although Brons era is now.

Its like

Kobe= Nas
LeBron= Wayne
Wiggins= Kendrick

Jordan= 2pac

fixed

waseem780
07-18-2013, 10:49 PM
He said that Iverson is his fav player ever

PickernRoller
07-18-2013, 10:49 PM
The committee has arrived to a decision.

When concerning recent comments made by Sir Andrew Wiggins with regards to Jordan and Kobe:

The Lebron committee hereby decrees that Sir Andrew Wiggins opinions are ignorant, naive and not to be taken seriously.

The committee advices the masses to avoid from publicly acknowledging Sir Andrew Wiggins or face charges for blasphemy against LeGawd almighty.

The committe informs the public that as of this very moment, a warrant for the arrest of Sir Andrew Wiggins has been issued. Sir Andrew Wiggins faces charges that among others include blasphemy, and violation of the state's first amendment.

With regards to any potential worship of Sir Andrew Wiggins:

The Lebron committee hereby declares that any worship of Sir Andrew Wiggins is considered a crime against the state and punishable by death.

The Lebron committee finds any worship of any player other than the almighty Lebron James a violation of the first amendment of Lebron's constitution.

First amendment states: No citizen under any circumstance shall worship any player other than Lebron James. The act, or acts of worship are exclusive rights to followers of Lebron. Violation of this right is punishable by death.

Follow the committe on twitter @datagenda

Fresh Kid
07-18-2013, 10:50 PM
He said that Iverson is his fav player ever
And whats wrong with that?

waseem780
07-19-2013, 12:11 AM
And whats wrong with that?
nothing , but the OP said he's a kobe stan

Fresh Kid
07-19-2013, 12:16 AM
nothing , but the OP said he's a kobe stan
Oh I see.

crisoner
07-19-2013, 02:50 AM
Kobe tries to emulate Jordan in literally every facet of his life, right down to his mannerisms and voice tone. So of course the little kids are going to say something like this.
Oh stfu with that crap. Really did Kobe get his pops killed over his gambling debts???

Any how with all respect to Wiggins....he was not around really with Jordan in his prime. Though info think his opinion is right.

Unbiased_one
07-19-2013, 06:50 AM
Kobe had the best shooting numbers in the mid-range area.

You know, kobe overall fg% was below the midrange % of LeBron, so this is clearly crap :lol

sportjames23
07-19-2013, 07:10 AM
"closest thing" is still TOO FAR AWAY.

that's how good Jordan was.


:cheers:


And MJ would be Rakim. Ya'll young niqqas don't know, but ya betta learn.

sportjames23
07-19-2013, 07:16 AM
Oh stfu with that crap. Really did Kobe get his pops killed over his gambling debts???

Any how with all respect to Wiggins....he was not around really with Jordan in his prime. Though info think his opinion is right.


Niqqa are you serious with this shit? His pops was killed on the side of the road by two kids in NC. :facepalm

Did MJ rape a girl? Yeah, that shit sounds stupid, right?

HiphopRelated
07-19-2013, 07:22 AM
How would he know though?

Shade8780
07-19-2013, 07:35 AM
Kobe - Jay-Z / Everybody knows him, and from how popular he is you'd think he's a Top 3 All-Time at what he does, when he really isn't. People thought he was done, but proved the haters wrong this year.

LeBron - Drake / Hated by lots of hip-hop/basketball fans when they really shouldn't be.

Wiggins - Kendrick Lamar / The leader of the next generation.

-------

MJ - 2Pac / GOAT

Trollsmasher
07-19-2013, 07:44 AM
You know, kobe overall fg% was below the midrange % of LeBron, so this is clearly crap :lol
ether:applause:

SwayDizzle
07-19-2013, 07:52 AM
loool, when Kobe wins his 6th ring, then there will be a legit argument for him being right behind Jordan as 2nd GOAT. Lebronytes will throw a fit.

HiphopRelated
07-19-2013, 02:00 PM
loool, when Kobe wins his 6th ring, then there will be a legit argument for him being right behind Jordan as 2nd GOAT. Lebronytes will throw a fit.
:coleman:

branslowski
07-19-2013, 02:07 PM
loool, when Kobe wins his 6th ring, then there will be a legit argument for him being right behind Jordan as 2nd GOAT. Lebronytes will throw a fit.

Agreed. If Kobe wins another title and Finals MVP making it 6 titles 3 finals MVPs, Along with More Allstar, All NBA, All Defensive teams than Jordan, and if in 3 seasons if he scores more in the league than Jordan and reaches 40,000 points, if you aren't a hater, it would be hard factually to deny Kobe that 2nd Spot.

Yet this is ISH, where they ignore Larry Bird saying Kobe is top 5, but listen to Nelly..smh.

Unbiased_one
07-19-2013, 02:14 PM
Agreed. If Kobe wins another title and Finals MVP making it 6 titles 3 finals MVPs, Along with More Allstar, All NBA, All Defensive teams than Jordan, and if in 3 seasons if he scores more in the league than Jordan and reaches 40,000 points, if you aren't a hater, it would be hard factually to deny Kobe that 2nd Spot.

Yet this is ISH, where they ignore Larry Bird saying Kobe is top 5, but listen to Nelly..smh.

Larry Bird also said that LeBron was well on his way to overtaking Jordan, so I'm not sure I trust his judgement. Past greats have shown very little aptitude for analyzing the game (exhibit one being MJ's GMing :lol)

grantz
07-19-2013, 02:23 PM
I'd do a Jordan = Common, Black Thought, Talib Kweli, or KRS One comparison.

Biggie was aight, but ripped off Pac's style, not that I was crazy about Pac -- except for "I get around." That shit was hot.

There is no current Hip Hop artist period. Sh*t's been deader than dead for over a decade.