View Full Version : Bill O'Reilly speaks the TRUTH about black people.
longhornfan1234
07-23-2013, 08:40 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/index.html
:bowdown: :bowdown:
andremiller07
07-23-2013, 08:48 AM
He just zipped up the bodybag, damn that was fire and lol @ some of those statistics jesus I didn't know it was that bad. That guy hit the nail on the head no doubt :applause: The guy went beastmode just telling the truth and actually coming up a reasonable solution to try slow down the problem.
Ass Dan
07-23-2013, 10:24 AM
The problem with children born out of wedlock is hardly groundbreaking, everyone knows that is the biggest problems.
Personally, I stop listening when they blame hip hop/video/games/movies etc. Rambo doesn't make Italians shoot up everyone.
Bill's graphic are really a lot like Colbert's, f*ckin biter... (yeah I know Colbert copied Bill, moron)
kNicKz
07-23-2013, 10:44 AM
Obama has no idea how to deal with the black community....dude grew up in a white household in Hawaii :roll:
nathanjizzle
07-23-2013, 10:49 AM
Obama has no idea how to deal with the black community....dude grew up in a white household in Hawaii :roll:
he worked and served the chicago community for 10+ years.
nathanjizzle
07-23-2013, 10:57 AM
i agree with the points he made. but i dont get how you can expect obama to tell black teenagers to not get pregnant, or to ban gangster rap, when the same people will turn around and call obama a dictator and socialist.
Jameerthefear
07-23-2013, 11:12 AM
"foxnews"
lol nice try
fiddy
07-23-2013, 11:46 AM
"foxnews"
lol nice try
:facepalm
Eric Cartman
07-23-2013, 12:28 PM
I can't believe someone from mainstream media would actually say this. Props to you Bill keep preachin' :applause: :applause: :applause:
HardwoodLegend
07-23-2013, 12:31 PM
I am a liberal black man who is all for the sterilization of young black males in the inner city.
Having kids is pointless and dumb anyway, so they shouldn't feel offended by losing their procreational abilities.
Typical ignorant nonsense from the very racist and close minded right wing extremist that is Bill O'Reilly.
MAC system
07-23-2013, 01:08 PM
Typical ignorant nonsense from the very racist and close minded right wing extremist that is Bill O'Reilly.
How so
Dresta
07-23-2013, 01:30 PM
He was off when he called drug dealers scum. Sure a lot of them are likely scum, but i've known some friendly drug dealers who tell you what you're getting, don't **** you over, and don't want to get people hooked and screw up their lives.
Someone like that provides a very valuable service, and saves people like me from getting mixed up with the scumbag drug dealers.
Take Your Lumps
07-23-2013, 01:30 PM
I liked the part where he fails to mention the decades-long "war on drugs" and imprisonment-for-profit (lobbied for by many of his buddies) that has been one of the primary reasons for the symptoms he's just now acknowledging.
So brave. :applause:
HarryCallahan
07-23-2013, 01:48 PM
he worked and served the chicago community for 10+ years.
pfft, Dudes a Cubs fan...
I am a liberal black man who is all for the sterilization of young black males in the inner city.
Having kids is pointless and dumb anyway, so they shouldn't feel offended by losing their procreational abilities.
Today 02:28 AM
:wtf: If you're for real, you're a scumbag.
I liked the part where he fails to mention the decades-long "war on drugs" and imprisonment-for-profit (lobbied for by many of his buddies) that has been one of the primary reasons for the symptoms he's just now acknowledging.
So brave. :applause:
Testify!
I went into watching that video expecting it to be full of ignorance and/or racism. Instead, I found myself agreeing with much of it (not all). I'm torn on the drug dealer part. It is a non-violent crime, but the drugs spread to the community can be quite damning. I think it is important to keep marijuana out of that conversation (hell, legalize the shit and it becomes less of a problem). Also, he said that education is not the problem, but most of preventing pregnancy is education. It is also hard to blame the entertainment industry. Yes, it does influence in a negative way, but people are doing what sells and that has always been the case. If you step back from it, somebody else will step forward and nothing changed except those entertainer's pocket books.
chosen_one6
07-23-2013, 02:02 PM
I went into watching that video expecting it to be full of ignorance and/or racism. Instead, I found myself agreeing with much of it (not all). I'm torn on the drug dealer part. It is a non-violent crime, but the drugs spread to the community can be quite damning. I think it is important to keep marijuana out of that conversation (hell, legalize the shit and it becomes less of a problem). Also, he said that education is not the problem, but most of preventing pregnancy is education. It is also hard to blame the entertainment industry. Yes, it does influence in a negative way, but people are doing what sells and that has always been the case. If you step back from it, somebody else will step forward and nothing changed except those entertainer's pocket books.
I feel the same way. And you're right, Bill is wrong on blaming it on the entertainment industry. Other cultures listen to the same sh*t and don't have the problems black people have. I even listen to it and it doesn't make me want to do anything or emulate the lifestyle.
Part of the problem does stem from education. You have to educate these kids at a young age. Once they get into their teens it's damn near impossible to get them on the right track.
Take Your Lumps
07-23-2013, 02:06 PM
I went into watching that video expecting it to be full of ignorance and/or racism. Instead, I found myself agreeing with much of it (not all). I'm torn on the drug dealer part. It is a non-violent crime, but the drugs spread to the community can be quite damning. I think it is important to keep marijuana out of that conversation (hell, legalize the shit and it becomes less of a problem). Also, he said that education is not the problem, but most of preventing pregnancy is education. It is also hard to blame the entertainment industry. Yes, it does influence in a negative way, but people are doing what sells and that has always been the case. If you step back from it, somebody else will step forward and nothing changed except those entertainer's pocket books.
I know it's tempting to treat marijuana differently than other more dangerous drugs...but in reality they all need to be legalized.
Otherwise, you're still treating the users of these drugs...your fellow human beings...as CRIMINALS for simply choosing to put something in their body.
Many citizens of this country ingest actual poison in their bodies in attempts to seriously hurt themselves.
Do we put them in jails and drag them away from their families for choosing to drink bleach?
You decriminalize the intake of drugs. You regulate the sale of said drugs -- you knock out the black market. You treat chronic users and addicts as sick people, not criminals.
Whether it's pot (mostly harmless) or meth (the polar opposite) is irrelevant, IMO.
Just2McFly
07-23-2013, 02:11 PM
The title of this thread, the way he describes the people is exactly why problems like this exist. Keep disenfranchising your fellow man and diagnosing those problems as "black", " hispanic" ,etc.... problems areas of all kind should be getting remedies regardless of who inhabits them.
the people who can help don't think of it as a problem for them and dont do shit and that's the way it will always be.
oh and bill isnt tell shit about the truth....what i want people to tell is how did all these guns and drugs inundate black communities after centuries of white people in america doing anything under the sun to make sure that blacks weren't armed.
if all these black teens stopped killing each other and waged war against the suburbs, guns in the hood would be gone in a week.
chosen_one6
07-23-2013, 02:11 PM
I know it's tempting to treat marijuana differently than other more dangerous drugs...but in reality they all need to be legalized.
Otherwise, you're still treating the users of these drugs...your fellow human beings...as CRIMINALS for simply choosing to put something in their body.
Many citizens of this country ingest actual poison in their bodies in attempts to seriously hurt themselves.
Do we put them in jails and drag them away from their families for choosing to drink bleach?
You decriminalize the intake of drugs. You regulate the sale of said drugs -- you knock out the black market. You treat chronic users and addicts as sick people, not criminals.
Whether it's pot (mostly harmless) or meth (the polar opposite) is irrelevant, IMO.
I don't think legalizing everything is a good thing...I just have this vision of people getting high and going to the workplace or school. Some of those drugs really alter your reality and could cause a higher crime rate. I could be wrong but...stuff like LSD, meth, or PCP should not be legal ever.
Take Your Lumps
07-23-2013, 02:12 PM
And as far as Bill O is concerned - it's not like his statistics are wrong.
It's the fact that he fails to address many of the primary causes of these symptoms within that community. He's addressing the HOW question and not the WHY.
When you don't put these things into context, the average FOX News viewer will fill that vacuum with their own pre-conceived racist notions about black people.
As evidenced by many of the replies to this thread...
Horde of Temujin
07-23-2013, 02:19 PM
American society created this problem. I ask you, what about CEO's of corporations who purposely exploit people, poison food, and ruin the environment. Or all those bankers and financiers who robbed this country blind. What's worse?
Ignorant hatemongers such as Bill O'reilly crying about people breaking into house while ignoring those manipulate and scheme to sieze the whole damn thing.
If anything, its a class issue, not race. American society robbed black people of all cultural capital and kept them poor for generations. This whole country is rotten.
Take Your Lumps
07-23-2013, 02:22 PM
I don't think legalizing everything is a good thing...I just have this vision of people getting high and going to the workplace or school.
And you don't think people do this already?
Some of those drugs really alter your reality and could cause a higher crime rate. I could be wrong but...stuff like LSD, meth, or PCP should not be legal ever.
There are a lot of drugs that shouldn't exist. Some drugs are very dangerous. (although LSD does not belong on that list)
But again, you can't legislate morality. People will do what people do.
Did you know that alcohol kills more teens every year than all illicit drugs combined?
I encourage everyone to watch Ken Burns' "Prohibition":
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Ken_Burns_Prohibition/70281600?trkid=2361637
-p.tiddy-
07-23-2013, 02:25 PM
That was one of the best rants ive ever heard on this subject
And it was on FOX News...wow
The black community needs a hard core leader to really get in there and clean shit up "Lean on Me" Morgan Freeman style...just stand up say "enough is enough" and force certain things on people that that it needs to be forced on, and then take all the heat he would get from the black community with his chest out.
chosen_one6
07-23-2013, 02:28 PM
And you don't think people do this already?
There are a lot of drugs that shouldn't exist. Some drugs are very dangerous. (although LSD does not belong on that list)
But again, you can't legislate morality. People will do what people do.
Did you know that alcohol kills more teens every year than all illicit drugs combined?
I encourage everyone to watch Ken Burns' "Prohibition":
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Ken_Burns_Prohibition/70281600?trkid=2361637
I know alcohol is horrible. I don't need statistics or videos to know that. I feel like marijuana being legalized is fine but going further than that is playing with fire...
senelcoolidge
07-23-2013, 02:28 PM
I saw this last night and he was right. It's embarrassing that things have come to this point. Politicians and so called leaders don't address these things. The pervasiveness of drugs, the sexualization of everything, the degradation of the family..so many things that are just wrong. It's hurting society more than some people realize.
I know it's tempting to treat marijuana differently than other more dangerous drugs...but in reality they all need to be legalized.
Otherwise, you're still treating the users of these drugs...your fellow human beings...as CRIMINALS for simply choosing to put something in their body.
Many citizens of this country ingest actual poison in their bodies in attempts to seriously hurt themselves.
Do we put them in jails and drag them away from their families for choosing to drink bleach?
You decriminalize the intake of drugs. You regulate the sale of said drugs -- you knock out the black market. You treat chronic users and addicts as sick people, not criminals.
Whether it's pot (mostly harmless) or meth (the polar opposite) is irrelevant, IMO.
I'm sure that there are other drugs that it would help to legalize, but some really distort decision making and would make our society worse IMO if it was made more easily available by legalizing it. I could be wrong though.
AirFederer
07-23-2013, 02:48 PM
:lol
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308338
Take Your Lumps
07-23-2013, 03:05 PM
I'm sure that there are other drugs that it would help to legalize, but some really distort decision making and would make our society worse IMO if it was made more easily available by legalizing it. I could be wrong though.
Pushing things underground makes them easier to get.
Ask the average teenager what he has a harder time buying: a six pack of beer or some illegal drugs...
TheMan
07-23-2013, 03:15 PM
pfft, Dudes a Cubs fan...
:wtf: If you're for real, you're a scumbag.
Testify!
He's a White Sox fan
-p.tiddy-
07-23-2013, 03:19 PM
Pushing things underground makes them easier to get.
Ask the average teenager what he has a harder time buying: a six pack of beer or some illegal drugs...
Tobacco and alcohol are gateway drugs because they are legal...
They are far more common than illegal drugs at underage parties...all you need is the friend with an older brother.
-p.tiddy-
07-23-2013, 03:21 PM
When I was a teen, all I needed to get some booz was to look in my own house, parents liquir cabinet
longtime lurker
07-23-2013, 03:29 PM
Oh typical Bill O'Racist rant.
Pushing things underground makes them easier to get.
Ask the average teenager what he has a harder time buying: a six pack of beer or some illegal drugs...
Beer was much easier for me to get as a teenager in the town I was from. Much much easier.
Scoooter
07-23-2013, 03:39 PM
I don't think legalizing everything is a good thing...I just have this vision of people getting high and going to the workplace or school. Some of those drugs really alter your reality and could cause a higher crime rate. I could be wrong but...stuff like LSD, meth, or PCP should not be legal ever.
Alcohol already does that.
Brunch@Five
07-23-2013, 04:09 PM
I surprisingly would agree with Bill O on most of his points as well. Maybe he doesn't stress his own points on how young people from inner city neighbourhoods are extremely vulnerable to all kinds of misgivings. Guns, drugs, alcohol, teen pregnancy, school absenteeism, gangsta-hip-hop culture.
That has been known since forever (anyone remember Dangerous Minds with Michelle Pfeiffer?). But very little has changed for the good.
bmulls
07-23-2013, 04:11 PM
Oh typical Bill O'Racist rant.
:rolleyes:
Any time you disagree with something or someone you play the race card.
ace23
07-23-2013, 04:24 PM
What clothing was Trayvon wearing that "street criminals" usually wear? A hoodie and khaki shorts? :facepalm
This dude is a clown. I'm not even going to waste my time deconstructing his trash.
HardwoodLegend
07-23-2013, 05:15 PM
:wtf: If you're for real, you're a scumbag.
How does that make me a scumbag? Black guys in the hood are terrified of getting women pregnant anyway.
http://i.imgur.com/ZfeV5wT.jpg
Why not just help them out by sterilizing them?
If you pitched it to em like, "say bruh, I know a way you can pipe b*tches raw without ever gettin em pregnant!" A lot of them would be like, "sheeeeit, s*gn me up, n*gga!"
longtime lurker
07-23-2013, 05:43 PM
:rolleyes:
Any time you disagree with something or someone you play the race card.
Lol at you acting like you know me. I didn't even bother because it's Bill O'Racists usual one sided diatribe. He's an out of touch old guy and goes to extremes to get a rise out of people.
I remember a story about him going to Soul Food restaurant in Harlem and being surprised that the black people weren't being loud, hooting and hollering.... the guy was basically shocked that black people act like normal restaurant patrons :wtf:
Dresta
07-23-2013, 06:19 PM
I don't think legalizing everything is a good thing...I just have this vision of people getting high and going to the workplace or school. Some of those drugs really alter your reality and could cause a higher crime rate. I could be wrong but...stuff like LSD, meth, or PCP should not be legal ever.
You are completely wrong, but i guess if you 'have a vision' then it must be worth listening to :roll: .
While do people like you think they have a right to an opinion on the matter without ever examining the history of prohibition and the racist puritanism that drove it.
Alcohol prohibition showed us more than anything the folly of prohibition. In that period alcohol related deaths skyrocketed as people produced things like moonshine, criminals got rich and organized and gained massive power and influence, crime also skyrocketed, and alcohol consumption barely changed.
The same is true with all other drugs: once it is illegal it becomes far more dangerous, and creates a huge demand for crime, while spending billions on tackling that same self-created crime. It is a joke that ruins so many lives both in this country and elsewhere. And it is driven by the ignorance of people like you who say: 'i dunno i could be wrong, but these drugs should be illegal because i think they're too dangerous to let people make their own decision' - please.
I have written 3,000 words on this with detailed evidence, i can post it if you want?
Blue&Orange
07-23-2013, 07:40 PM
Stop listening on "Trayvon Martin was scrutinized because of his clothes not skin color"
:roll: :lol
Lakers Legend#32
07-24-2013, 12:16 AM
Watching FOX News is waterboarding for intellectuals.
Patrick Chewing
07-24-2013, 01:05 AM
This dude is a clown. I'm not even going to waste my time deconstructing his trash.
You're in denial, bro. You'll die an old man always thinking you've been oppressed since day one and a victim of your skin color.
I just hope you don't have kids and then grandkids and pollute their minds with your excuses for your ignorance.
Patrick Chewing
07-24-2013, 01:08 AM
He was off when he called drug dealers scum. Sure a lot of them are likely scum, but i've known some friendly drug dealers who tell you what you're getting, don't **** you over, and don't want to get people hooked and screw up their lives.
Someone like that provides a very valuable service, and saves people like me from getting mixed up with the scumbag drug dealers.
So you do drugs??? :lol
Weak, bitch.
Scoooter
07-24-2013, 02:25 AM
What's wrong with doing drugs? I enjoy a nice scotch every now and then.
Dresta
07-24-2013, 02:38 AM
So you do drugs??? :lol
Weak, bitch.
Of course. Life is too boring not to, and none of the traditional recreational drugs can harm you if you take them sensibly and know what you're doing.
ace23
07-24-2013, 02:39 AM
You're in denial, bro. You'll die an old man always thinking you've been oppressed since day one and a victim of your skin color.
I just hope you don't have kids and then grandkids and pollute their minds with your excuses for your ignorance.
What the **** are you rambling about? :biggums:
fiddy
07-24-2013, 02:48 AM
Dude is spot on IMO. Sad to see so many people living in denial.
oh the horror
07-24-2013, 10:50 AM
So you do drugs??? :lol
Weak, bitch.
And you don't? Smoke a joint and have a beer. It won't kill you. I promise.
Rasheed1
07-24-2013, 11:23 AM
Cenk destroys Bill Oreilly and the right wing for pretending they actually care about black issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcYi8kt9Zk0&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ
I just posted the other day plenty programs and initiatives that exist to stop the violence in Chicago and cities across the country. If people really care about black on black crime (strange term because studies show that majority of crime against any race is done by people of the same race) they would simply google it and you find plenty of efforts underway to prevent it.. even the boogeyman Sharpton and jesse Jackson & the black caucus have a multitude of projects aimed at crime specifically in chicago... So Oreilly is being dishonest when he pretends there isnt any...
Crime in the city is a big problem and some of it is a personal choice issue, but as usual with some people B.O. simply misrepresents it and tries to use it to bash folks..
Dresta
07-24-2013, 01:11 PM
Not sure what this has to do with BO...
Overdrive
07-24-2013, 01:31 PM
I know it's tempting to treat marijuana differently than other more dangerous drugs...but in reality they all need to be legalized.
Otherwise, you're still treating the users of these drugs...your fellow human beings...as CRIMINALS for simply choosing to put something in their body.
Many citizens of this country ingest actual poison in their bodies in attempts to seriously hurt themselves.
Do we put them in jails and drag them away from their families for choosing to drink bleach?
You decriminalize the intake of drugs. You regulate the sale of said drugs -- you knock out the black market. You treat chronic users and addicts as sick people, not criminals.
Whether it's pot (mostly harmless) or meth (the polar opposite) is irrelevant, IMO.
I'm totally on your site here. Illegality doesn't prevent people from taking drugs. It's a decision you make yourself and it doesn't matter where it comes from.
Legality would drastically change drugrelated crime and health issues from laced drugs instantly.
People won't go to work high on meth, coke or H. Why should they start that? I'm mean they very same people could go to work drunk drunk right now.
Regarding the OP: What alot people fail to see imo is that those problems aren't problems of ethnicity(we've got no "blacks" problem here, but issues regarding immigration) but of poverty. Alot of inner city black might be poor, but that's not because they're black. Your education system doesn't really help underprivileged people to improve their status within society. If the outview on life of those kids wouldn't be as bleak there wouldn't be as many teenage pregnancies, drug related crimes etcetc.
32jazz
07-24-2013, 01:53 PM
Cenk destroys Bill Oreilly and the right wing for pretending they actually care about black issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcYi8kt9Zk0&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ
I just posted the other day plenty programs and initiatives that exist to stop the violence in Chicago and cities across the country. If people really care about black on black crime (strange term because studies show that majority of crime against any race is done by people of the same race) they would simply google it and you find plenty of efforts underway to prevent it.. even the boogeyman Sharpton and jesse Jackson & the black caucus have a multitude of projects aimed at crime specifically in chicago... So Oreilly is being dishonest when he pretends there isnt any...
Crime in the city is a big problem and some of it is a personal choice issue, but as usual with some people B.O. simply misrepresents it and tries to use it to bash folks..
Loudmouth bigots like this guy are the same ones on the Right attacking sex education, Contraception, Planned Parenthood,etc.........& other programs that assist these communities. This 72% 'fatherless' is a bogus number as I know many couples with kids who live together.
I never heard the term "white on White" crime although the Chicago murder rate in 1930(peak of prohibition) was roughly the same as Chicago today. There were running machine gun battles through the streets of Chicago in the 20's/30's.
When leaders saw the Irish & Italian gangs( "white on white" crime) they addressed the root cause head on; the War on Drugs(alcohol) & also banned machine guns.
Today they refuse to seriously consider even discussing the War on Drugs especially(which affects Hispanic nations even worse) & gun control.
Lakers Legend#32
07-24-2013, 06:19 PM
And who better to speak on race relations than a crusty, old, white, conservative, multi-millionaire like Bill O'Reilly? :rolleyes:
Immortal Bum
07-24-2013, 06:44 PM
"they should've never gave you ****** money!"
reppy
07-24-2013, 06:46 PM
Bill O'Reilly must be torn. Who is responsible for Detroit's bankruptcy: blacks or unions?
crisoner
07-24-2013, 08:48 PM
Cenk destroys Bill Oreilly and the right wing for pretending they actually care about black issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcYi8kt9Zk0&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ
I just posted the other day plenty programs and initiatives that exist to stop the violence in Chicago and cities across the country. If people really care about black on black crime (strange term because studies show that majority of crime against any race is done by people of the same race) they would simply google it and you find plenty of efforts underway to prevent it.. even the boogeyman Sharpton and jesse Jackson & the black caucus have a multitude of projects aimed at crime specifically in chicago... So Oreilly is being dishonest when he pretends there isnt any...
Crime in the city is a big problem and some of it is a personal choice issue, but as usual with some people B.O. simply misrepresents it and tries to use it to bash folks..
Great video...
God O'Reilly is an arrogant ignorant f*ck. He is creating so many clones...not good.
Jailblazers7
07-24-2013, 08:51 PM
Not sure how O'Reilly is gonna blame black people for the culture of hip hop and entertainment when those industries are largely controlled and run by white people. Gangster rap culture is huge because white people love it. We are the ones feeding the industry which makes it an appealing opportunity for poor black teens who want to rap.
longtime lurker
07-24-2013, 09:11 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/chris-hayes-bill-oreilly_n_3645291.html?utm_hp_ref=media
Bill O'Racist once again called out for his bullshit
Rasheed1
07-24-2013, 09:39 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/chris-hayes-bill-oreilly_n_3645291.html?utm_hp_ref=media
Bill O'Racist once again called out for his bullshit
The best part is when Chris Hayes says
"I don't know if Bill Oreilly is aware that everything he is saying is easily debunked with about 20 minutes of googling, but that's not really the point. The real reason Bill Oreilly peddles this stuff is because it gives a cheap "crack" like high to the old fearful white audience that watches Bill Oreilly and gives Fox News its power also known as the Republican base. These are the folks Bill Oreilly is feeding when he laments not being able to criticize Black culture"
Good stuff.. Then he plays a ridiculous clip from Oreilly who is surprised when he goes to a black restaurant (sylvia's) and his racist stereotypes aren't shown to be true.. he is shocked.. :oldlol:
the guy is a jack ass
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