Is there a more underwhelming title in NBA history than Miami's in 2012-2013?

[Doranku]

I mean honestly...

-3 of the top 10 players in the Eastern Conference all on one team
-Zero 50 win teams played
-Best player faced was a third year Paul George :roll:
-Got taken to 7 games by Paul George and 12/8 Roy Hibbert :facepalm
-Were seconds away from losing in the finals to the ancient Spurs who only made the finals because they got lucky with injuries
-Nearly every other team in the league had a major injury besides the Heat
-Had the easiest first two rounds in NBA history due to competition/injuries


It's crazy, I've heard people call the Spurs an "all-time great team". :roll: Ya'll nikkas kidding me?

Led by retirement home Tim Duncan at a tender 37 years young, these are the same Spurs who were swept in the second round by Phoenix. Same Spurs who became only the 2nd team in NBA history to lose a 7-game series as a #1 seed. Same Spurs who choked and were backdoor swept by a young OKC team.

And all of that is neglecting to mention that arguably their most important player, Tony Parker, injured himself midway through the series. Or the fact that Manu Ginobili is absolutely DONE as a professional basketball player and completely sabotaged his team in 6/7 games of the series.

And please don't put on the injury charade for Wade. Being washed up isn't an injury.

[red1]

why are laker fans so hurt by miami's success?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

How insecure are you that you took the time to write all that crap :facepalm

[OldSkoolball#52]

Too long; didnt read

OP is a ******

[aj1987]

I mean honestly...

-3 of the top 10 players in the Eastern Conference all on one team
-Zero 50 win teams played
-Best player faced was a third year Paul George :roll:
-Got taken to 7 games by Paul George and 12/8 Roy Hibbert :facepalm
-Were seconds away from losing in the finals to the ancient Spurs who only made the finals because they got lucky with injuries
-Nearly every other team in the league had a major injury besides the Heat
-Had the easiest first two rounds in NBA history due to competition/injuries


It's crazy, I've heard people call the Spurs an "all-time great team". :roll: Ya'll nikkas kidding me?

Led by retirement home Tim Duncan at a tender 37 years young, these are the same Spurs who were swept in the second round by Phoenix. Same Spurs who became only the 2nd team in NBA history to lose a 7-game series as a #1 seed. Same Spurs who choked and were backdoor swept by a young OKC team.

And all of that is neglecting to mention that arguably their most important player, Tony Parker, injured himself midway through the series. Or the fact that Manu Ginobili is absolutely DONE as a professional basketball player and completely sabotaged his team in 6/7 games of the series.

And please don't put on the injury charade for Wade. Being washed up isn't an injury.
Meanwhile the Lakers were busy getting swept in the first round, after barely (coughsterncougn) making the playoffs.

[WayOfWade]

And please don't put on the injury charade for Wade. Being washed up isn't an injury.
:facepalm

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/dwyane-wade-actively-moving-kneecap-probably-won-t-180813318.html

http://fansided.com/2013/05/14/dwyane-wade-dealing-with-three-bone-bruises-in-knee/

I don't care how you try and spin it, a shifting kneecap can't be good. Add 3 friggin' bone bruises in and you have a bonafide injury to say the least.

[Nevaeh]

why are laker fans so hurt by miami's success?

Those fools seem to be hurt by any other team having success in the League, but are the first group to b!tch and and cry "weak era" for any other team winning more than one ring within the same decade.

[Electric Slide]

They still won the title so the joke is on you.

[che guevara]

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[red1]

Those fools seem to be hurt by any other team having success in the League, but are the first group to b!tch and and cry "weak era" for any other team winning more than one ring within the same decade.
All of my boys that bandwagon the lakers have had their panties in a bunch the last two finals and they were the first to crack jokes and jizz their pants when the heat lost to the mavs. Laker fans are just threatened by miami, thats all it really is

[Doranku]

They still won the title so the joke is on you.

That's the whole point. Of course they won, look how easy they had it. :oldlol:

Also, to the poster above, why would Lakers fans be threatened by the Heat? Makes no sense.

[PJR]

OP is a******

Well said.

[nathanjizzle]

OP isnt a******

[Derka]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/423/672/667.gif

What in the bloody blue F*CK is that?! :roll:

[Le Shaqtus]

Not sure why you're so insecure, you're a fan of one of, if not the most successful franchise in NBA history. Just let Miami have their few titles, Lakers will be back as contenders in a few years anyway.

[Electric Slide]

That's the whole point. Of course they won, look how easy they had it. :oldlol:

Also, to the poster above, why would Lakers fans be threatened by the Heat? Makes no sense.
Yea

And they still won. So what exactly is your point?

[PJR]

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[Peteballa]

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[PickernRoller]

Heat fans jumping on OP like mad b1tches. Dat circle jerk is glorious.

Lebron fans, majority in the first page, absolutely HATE the truth.

This shouldn't even be seen as a diss, cause it's just the f'cking truth.

[red1]

That's the whole point. Of course they won, look how easy they had it. :oldlol:

Also, to the poster above, why would Lakers fans be threatened by the Heat? Makes no sense.
It is something that I have observed over years now. It is your right not to like them but to be or at least act insecure is another thing. I cant give you an exact reason why many laker fans have been like this but truthfully I know that on some level it all comes down to what espn built up with kobe vs lebron and laker fans just cant seem to root for the other guy

[PJR]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/409/810/97d.gif

[PickernRoller]

It is something that I have observed over years now. It is your right not to like them but to be or at least act insecure is another thing. I cant give you an exact reason why many laker fans have been like this but truthfully I know that on some level it all comes down to what espn built up with kobe vs lebron and laker fans just cant seem to root for the other guy

Lol cut the bullshit, the only reason you're posting here is because you're an insecure Lebron stan. Take that bullshit to some other dumb poster.

[SilkkTheShocker]

OP killed just have had a nervous breakdown after game 6 :oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

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[Electric Slide]

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[HoopsFanNumero1]

Lol cut the bullshit, the only reason you're posting here is because you're an insecure Lebron stan. Take that bullshit to some other dumb poster.
:confusedshrug: He's right. I've noticed Kobe stans (i.e. you) are some of the most insecure posters on this site. Not that Lebron stans aren't, but you guys are on another level.

[Fresh Kid]

tha answer is no, but here's tha other teams thats close to them:

2012
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo126/theybf/June%202012/acf7a0d0.jpg

2008
http://www.theipinionsjournal.com/uploaded_images/nabaa-716489.jpg
2006
http://www.posternation.com/image/view/2006-heat-nba-champions-team-celebration-35-228146
1999
http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/spurs-1999.jpg
FOR OBVIOUS REASONS:facepalm

[KNOW1EDGE]

what is the point of this thread?

OP, you are a f@gboy.

[PickernRoller]

:confusedshrug: He's right. I've noticed Kobe stans (i.e. you) are some of the most insecure posters on this site. Not that Lebron stans aren't, but you guys are on another level.

No he's not and he's full of bullshit and he knows it. Not that argument over the fact is necessary.

Lol at you labeling me as insecure when I have bitch slapped every dumb troll and Lebron/fake Heat fan I have encountered in this forum. Including you btw, which is nothing but a self reflection at how insecure you guys are. First page is enough evidence - the circle jerk my god.

BTW you're a Lebron stan. Talking shit like you aren't one has got to be one of the most comical things I have ever seen here. It's common for Lebron d1ck riders to deny such association - helps with the cred am I rite? Kids. There is only one place where you can be found and that's in in Lebron or Kobe threads.

I am just here supporting the truth. You guys getting so riled up was expected, comical and pathetic.

So what's next, "OP is a phagg0t".......insecure bunch. The facts hurt I know.

[red1]

Lol cut the bullshit, the only reason you're posting here is because you're an insecure Lebron stan. Take that bullshit to some other dumb poster.
where is the bullshit? that was straight truth

[Doranku]

Lots of "OP is a ph@ggots", no actual answers to the question posed.







ISH in a nutshell. :lol

[HoopsFanNumero1]

No he's not and he's full of bullshit and he knows it. Not that argument over the fact is necessary.

Lol at you labeling me as insecure when I have bitch slapped every dumb troll and Lebron/fake Heat fan I have encountered in this forum. Including you btw, which is nothing but a self reflection at how insecure you guys are. First page is enough evidence - the circle jerk my god.

BTW you're a Lebron stan. Talking shit like you aren't one has got to be one of the most comical things I have ever seen here. It's common for Lebron d1ck riders to deny such association - helps with the cred am I rite? Kids. There is only one place where you can be found and that's in in Lebron or Kobe threads.

I am just here supporting the truth. You guys getting so riled up was expected, comical and pathetic.

So what's next, "OP is a phagg0t".......insecure bunch. The facts hurt I know.

So it's not insecurity when a poster constantly makes thread to undervalue a team's accomplishment. Most of the stuff the OP wrote are bs. You can say the same shit about Kobe's 2009 and 2010 rings. Garnett injured, Perkins injured, refs, Gasol carried Kobe, etc. And why is it that Lakers fans are the ones that are always making these thread? Simple answer. Insecurity and jealousy.

[fsvr54]

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n291/aznpaolo234/opmisc.gif

[PickernRoller]

So it's not insecurity when a poster constantly makes thread to undervalue a team's accomplishment. Most of the stuff the OP wrote are bs. You can say the same shit about Kobe's 2009 and 2010 rings. Garnett injured, Perkins injured, refs, Gasol carried Kobe, etc. And why is it that Lakers fans are the ones that are always making these thread? Simple answer. Insecurity and jealousy.

Most of the stuff OP wrote is the truth. LBJ/ fake Heat fans seeing it at as a diss is to be expected. I just look at it objectively and only find truth. I have said OP was an overreaction prima dona before - kinda, but he's saying nothing but the truth here. I wouldn't necessarily agree with the title - but it's definitely up there as one most underwhelming in modern history.

You wanna make a count and see which group of poster makes dumber threads - dissing a team accomplishment or Kobe Bryant?

How about a lifetime ban bet? Boy please you would lose at the first 30 pages of this forum if it goes that far. Tony's output alone is enough, if you include electric slide and thibsyou - all the same person - it's not even a contest.

Anyway, nothing more to say. Insecurity and jealousy fits here pretty well. Good luck OP.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Most of the stuff OP wrote is the truth. LBJ/ fake Heat fans seeing it at a diss is to be expected. I just look at it objectively and only find truth. I have said OP was an overreaction prima dona before - kinda, but he's saying nothing but the truth here. I wouldn't necessarily agree with the title - but it's definitely up there as one most underwhelming in modern history.

You wanna make a count and see which group of poster makes dumber threads - dissing a team accomplishment or Kobe Bryant?

How about a lifetime ban bet? Boy please you would lose at the first 30 pages of this forum if it goes that far. Tony's output alone is enough, if you include electric slide and thibsyou - all the same person - it's not even a contest.

Anyway, nothing more to say. Insecurity and jealousy fits here pretty well. Good luck OP.

That's to be expected since the Heat just repeated. What do you think the majority of posts here would have been like if they lost? Hell, I can remember so many Lakers and Bulls fans that were ready to troll before game 6 even ended.

[PickernRoller]

That's to be expected since the Heat just repeated. What do you think the majority of posts here would have been like if they lost? Hell, I can remember so many Lakers and Bulls fans that were ready to troll before game 6 even ended.

I remember fake Heat fans, LBJ stans quitting on Lebron after game 5 if I remember. Making threads about it. I remember those threads carrying over with new ones flooding the forum before the third quarter of game 6 by LBJ fans, not Kobe stans :roll: :roll:

Now you're trying to explain numbers and bla bla bla. Irrelevant, even then the output of fake Heat fans, LBJ trolls greatly outpace that of Laker/Kobe fans in this forum greatly. Before the win, after the win, throughout the year, throughout last year, any year, any month since the 2012 Finals. You making that suggestion was stupid to say the least. Trying to explain the numbers is even more stupid.

[LongLiveTheKing]

D-Wade was injured.
/thread

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I remember fake Heat fans, LBJ stans quitting on Lebron after game 5 if I remember. Making threads about it. I remember those threads carrying over with new ones flooding the forum before the third quarter of game 6 by LBJ fans, not Kobe stans :roll: :roll:

Now you're trying to explain numbers and bla bla bla. Irrelevant, even then the output of fake Heat fans, LBJ trolls greatly outpace that of Laker/Kobe fans in this forum greatly. Before the win, after the win, throughout the year, throughout last year, any year, any month since the 2011 Finals. You making that suggestion was stupid to say the least. Trying to explain the numbers is even more stupid.

Your post makes no sense. You don't think Kobe stans were making troll posts after winning the 2009 and 2010 championship? Or after the Heat lost in the Finals? You don't think most of the Lebron trolls would have left if they lost this year?

Anyway, you've gone off on a tangent. My point was that its mostly Lakers fans on this board that are insecure over the Heat's accomplishments. You won't see other fans constantly making posts to devalue the Heat's accomplishments, certainly not to the extent many Lakers fans do here. I don't want to group all Lakers fans in that category because there are a lot of cool Lakers fans here but you and the OP certainly belong in the category I'm talking about.

[tazb]

So we gon' act like LeBron AND Bosh didn't tweak their ankles severely in Game 4 @ Indiana, but they kept on playing through it? And :facepalm @ Wade's injury being cause he's washed up, ****ing idiot. :oldlol: Two can play this game.

Are the 2012-2013 Lakers the most underachieving super-team in NBA history?

- Were expected to have a better record than the 72-10 Bulls, failed miserably.
- Were expected to be the champions way before the season even started, almost missed the playoffs.
- They have a top 10 player for each position, for some, even top 5.
- One of the greatest offensive coaches ever.
- Few teams choked during the last few regular season games, they were lucky to make the playoffs.
- Got swept by the ancient Spurs.

[LikeABosh]

Is there a more butt hurt fa.ggot in Ish history than OP?

[PickernRoller]

Your post makes no sense. You don't think Kobe stans were making troll posts after winning the 2009 and 2010 championship? Or after the Heat lost in the Finals? You don't think most of the Lebron trolls would have left if they lost this year?

Anyway, you've gone off on a tangent. My point was that its mostly Lakers fans on this board that are insecure over the Heat's accomplishments. You won't see other fans constantly making posts to devalue the Heat's accomplishments, certainly not to the extent many Lakers fans do here. I don't want to group all Lakers fans in that category because there are a lot of cool Lakers fans here but you and the OP certainly belong in the category I'm talking about.

You go off on a tangent every time you make a post son. The initial derail which was to me very obvious and which was easy to debunk was created by you. Your point is irrelevant, the facts remain the way they are. "Hypothetically" arguing is a kids game.

You could throw me in whatever category you chose. First rule of the book is to discredit the poster, person you argue with. Nothing new I haven't seen tried before - novice stuff. Even thou, then again, there is no sort of argument when the argument never had any base so I am in a predicament to understand any of your points or the relevance of them. I should have dismissed you as a straight up moron, like I have done surely in the past but paid you some of my time for nothing today. You have always been irrelevant, like most LBJ fans in this forum.

Op has had to deal with a lot of phagotry hehe....I am sure he can handle 10 LBJ fans repeating the MO.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

You go off on a tangent every time you make a post son. The initial derail which was to me very obvious and which was easy to debunk was created by you. Your point is irrelevant, the facts remain the way they are. "Hypothetically" arguing is a kids game.

You could throw me in whatever category you chose. First rule of the book is to discredit the poster, person you argue with. Nothing new I haven't seen tried before - novice stuff. Even thou, then again, there is no sort of argument when the argument never had any base so I am in a predicament to understand any of your points or the relevance of them. I should have dismissed you as a straight up moron, like I have done surely in the past but paid you some of my time for nothing today. You have always been irrelevant, like most LBJ fans in this forum.

Op has had to deal with a lot of phagotry hehe....I am sure he can handle 10 LBJ fans repeating the MO.

It seems that you take a lot of pride in your "position" on ISH and spend the majority of your time working on it so I'll leave you to it.

[Jameerthefear]

So we gon' act like LeBron AND Bosh didn't tweak their ankles severely in Game 4 @ Indiana, but they kept on playing through it? And :facepalm @ Wade's injury being cause he's washed up, ****ing idiot. :oldlol: Two can play this game.

Are the 2012-2013 Lakers the most underachieving super-team in NBA history?

- Were expected to have a better record than the 72-10 Bulls, failed miserably.
- Were expected to be the champions way before the season even started, almost missed the playoffs.
- They have a top 10 player for each position, for some, even top 5.
- One of the greatest offensive coaches ever.
- Few teams choked during the last few regular season games, they were lucky to make the playoffs.
- Got swept by the ancient Spurs.
Bold is bullshit you made up. On your last point, Miami got taken to 7 and barely squeaked out a win. Don't underestimate the Spurs like that you fvcking imbecile.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Bold is bullshit you made up. On your last point, Miami got taken to 7 and barely squeaked out a win. Don't underestimate the Spurs like that you fvcking imbecile.

No he didn't...

MWP himself said they can go 73-9, and D'Antoni is considered one of the best offensive coaches. Did you ever watch the Suns play? Stick to watching anime.

[thabisyo]

No he didn't...

MWP himself said they can go 73-9, and D'Antoni is considered one of the best offensive coaches. Did you ever watch the Suns play? Stick to watching anime.

Pointless being reasonable with the lakers fans :facepalm

[strifed169]

Its sad how prone ISH posters are to trolling

The 2013 Heat Championship is the most memorable finals ever

[thabisyo]

Its sad how prone ISH posters are to trolling

The 2013 Heat Championship is the most memorable finals ever

:cheers:

[Jameerthefear]

No he didn't...

MWP himself said they can go 73-9, and D'Antoni is considered one of the best offensive coaches. Did you ever watch the Suns play? Stick to watching anime.
MWP also says sht like this:

Well, I'm just happy that Jesus Christ, um, did not let me lose my teeth when I was 20 years old. 'Cause I was wondering, like, what if you kept your baby teeth until the age of 18 or 20, and then you lose 'em? That would look pretty bad. So I just think he's really brilliant that you lose your teeth when you're a baby rather than you lose them when you're, like, 30 or 20. That has nothing to do with your question, but that was definitely on my mind.

I was, um, just thinking about it. And I was just like, wow, what if I lost my teeth, like, today? And I'm 32. You know? And then my new teeth would grow back in. You know? I was just thinking about that. And I was like, that's really pretty brilliant; he actually thought about like people's image and, you know, persona and things like that. 'Cause you would be pretty ugly with no teeth at the age of 20, 18, you know? So not only did he build the world in seven days, seven nights, he also said, OK, let them lose their teeth early, rather than late.
D'antoni is a one-dimensional coach btw.

[Jameerthefear]

Pointless being reasonable with the lakers fans :facepalm
Not a Lakers fan. Read my user title fakkit

[deja vu]

Spurs gave the title away more than Miami won it. :roll:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

MWP also says sht like this:

The point is that there were very high expectations of the Lakers.


D'antoni is a one-dimensional coach btw.

Which is why he said D'Antoni is one of the best offensive coaches.

[Jameerthefear]

The point is that there were very high expectations of the Lakers.



Which is why he said D'Antoni is one of the best offensive coaches.
It doesn't matter what his "point" was. It was stupid to say that there were people who thought they'd break the record.

I phrased that wrong. D'Antoni is a one-dimensional system coach.

[tazb]

Bold is bullshit you made up. On your last point, Miami got taken to 7 and barely squeaked out a win. Don't underestimate the Spurs like that you fvcking imbecile.

:wtf:

HoopsFanNumero already addressed you, so I won't. But did you read the first post? OP is the one the who called them ancient you idiot.

[Jameerthefear]

:wtf:

HoopsFanNumero already addressed you, so I won't. But did you read the first post? OP is the one the who called them ancient you idiot.
Yes. We have already addressed that the op is a fvcking moron. That doesn't give you a pass since you said it also.

[Unbiased_one]

I mean honestly...

-3 of the top 10 players in the Eastern Conference all on one team
-Zero 50 win teams played
-Best player faced was a third year Paul George :roll:
-Got taken to 7 games by Paul George and 12/8 Roy Hibbert :facepalm
-Were seconds away from losing in the finals to the ancient Spurs who only made the finals because they got lucky with injuries
-Nearly every other team in the league had a major injury besides the Heat
-Had the easiest first two rounds in NBA history due to competition/injuries


It's crazy, I've heard people call the Spurs an "all-time great team". :roll: Ya'll nikkas kidding me?

Led by retirement home Tim Duncan at a tender 37 years young, these are the same Spurs who were swept in the second round by Phoenix. Same Spurs who became only the 2nd team in NBA history to lose a 7-game series as a #1 seed. Same Spurs who choked and were backdoor swept by a young OKC team.

And all of that is neglecting to mention that arguably their most important player, Tony Parker, injured himself midway through the series. Or the fact that Manu Ginobili is absolutely DONE as a professional basketball player and completely sabotaged his team in 6/7 games of the series.

And please don't put on the injury charade for Wade. Being washed up isn't an injury.

What about the lakers in 2002 who required obvious and excessive ref help?

[BoutPractice]

How about Miami's 2006 title?

[Lebron23]

They beat 3 of the top 5 defensive teams in the NBA in the playoffs. The 2013 Spurs are one of the best teams who never won an NBA Championship. They swept a very good Memphis Grizzlies team.

[#number6ix#]

It's not the heat fault the other teams aren't on their level they only can play who they're matched up with... As for the spurs they only lost two games before the finals and was well rested while Miami had to battle with Indy...

[SilkkTheShocker]

It's seriously funny how bad the 2013 finals mentally destroyed Heat haters. They still haven't recovered...

[Crafty]

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[Doranku]

It's seriously funny how bad the 2013 finals mentally destroyed Heat haters. They still haven't recovered...

fakkit this is the second shit post you've made in my thread. Hopefully now that someone has acknowledged your unfortunate existence you'll stop pleading for someone to notice you.

[derb2k2]

lmao Doranku you've got some issues to work out there man. :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[riseagainst]

everything the said OP is true. I think even the most idiotic Heat fans/lebron stans know this. Problem is, the more threads you make about it, the more it will be about the OP being butthurt and the less it will be about the Heat playing against weak teams. Just leave it alone and several years down the line people will finally come out of their shells and admit openly that Heat had it easy.

[PJR]

everything the said OP is true. I think even the most idiotic Heat fans/lebron stans know this. Problem is, the more threads you make about it, the more it will be about the OP being butthurt and the less it will be about the Heat playing against weak teams. Just leave it alone and several years down the line people will finally come out of their shells and admit openly that Heat had it easy.

Actually fool,

It isn't true.

The 1987 Lakers, who went thru the incredibly paltry Western Conference at the time faced two sub .500 teams on their way to an NBA Finals match up with the Celtics. And ironically, they are historically recognized as this all time great team despite the fact that they faced weak in conference competition.

Just goes to show you that 20 years from now, no one will ever remember who the Heat played, but the fact that they won. And only the fact that they won.

But by all means, you and the OP can continue on with your sore assholes. Don't let facts get in the way here.

[DMAVS41]

They won...and essentially that is all that matters.

However, the fact that people still think this Heat team was as good as the previous two years is laughable to me. They slumped their way to the title and nearly lost to a Spurs team in which their supposed best player (Parker) had a brutal series. They faced extremely weak competition and didn't look dominant at all.

Clearly....12 Heat > 11 Heat >>>> 13 Heat

[Lakers2877]

why are laker fans so hurt by miami's success?
why do people always read a post from on person and conclude that its now an entire fan base thinks?

im a laker fan and I disagree with the OP as any title is great. no such thing as underwhelming

[Lakers2877]

Actually fool,

It isn't true.

The 1987 Lakers, who went thru the incredibly paltry Western Conference at the time faced two sub .500 teams on their way to an NBA Finals match up with the Celtics. And ironically, they are historically recognized as this all time great team despite the fact that they faced weak in conference competition.

Just goes to show you that 20 years from now, no one will ever remember who the Heat played, but the fact that they won. And only the fact that they won.

But by all means, you and the OP can continue on with your sore assholes. Don't let facts get in the way here.
im pretty sure that Laker team is considered great because they had Magic Johnson, Kareem and James Worthy, all while being coached by Pat Riley. beating the Celtics in the finals is reason enough to acknowledge their greatness

[r15mohd]

im pretty sure that Laker team is considered great because they had Magic Johnson, Kareem and James Worthy, all while being coached by Pat Riley. beating the Celtics in the finals is reason enough to acknowledge their greatness

as is beating this years Spurs...a team with 3 HoF players (2 of which had all-star seasons) and a HoF coach, which won 58 games this season and basically dominated the west coast playoffs by losing only 2 games in total prior to the championship series.

[riseagainst]

Actually fool,

It isn't true.

The 1987 Lakers, who went thru the incredibly paltry Western Conference at the time faced two sub .500 teams on their way to an NBA Finals match up with the Celtics. And ironically, they are historically recognized as this all time great team despite the fact that they faced weak in conference competition.

Just goes to show you that 20 years from now, no one will ever remember who the Heat played, but the fact that they won. And only the fact that they won.

But by all means, you and the OP can continue on with your sore assholes. Don't let facts get in the way here.

calm your moist ******. This ain't even that serious.
:oldlol:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

calm your moist ******. This ain't even that serious.
:oldlol:

You know you've been defeated when you resort to petty insults. All that smiley does is show your insecurity.

[riseagainst]

You know you've been defeated when you resort to petty insults. All that smiley does is show your insecurity.

defeated in what? I wasn't wrong in saying the competition the Heat faced was weak. No one's said anything to counter that yet. Defeated? pfff. I didn't b1tch about how they won. All i said was that the OP is correct about the weak path and that he should stop making threads about it because insecure Heat and Lebron fans are just going to insult you, your team, and something about Kobe if all else fails.

yeah... defeated
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[Lakers2877]

So we gon' act like LeBron AND Bosh didn't tweak their ankles severely in Game 4 @ Indiana, but they kept on playing through it? And :facepalm @ Wade's injury being cause he's washed up, ****ing idiot. :oldlol: Two can play this game.

Are the 2012-2013 Lakers the most underachieving super-team in NBA history?

- Were expected to have a better record than the 72-10 Bulls, failed miserably.
- Were expected to be the champions way before the season even started, almost missed the playoffs.
- They have a top 10 player for each position, for some, even top 5.
- One of the greatest offensive coaches ever.
- Few teams choked during the last few regular season games, they were lucky to make the playoffs.
- Got swept by the ancient Spurs.

nobody expected the Lakers to be better than the 96 bulls. thats just silly

if they were expected to be champions why were the heat favored to win the title going into the year?

top 10 player for each position? really? ron artest, top 10 player? and I dont know if you followed the nba last season but im pretty sure Gasol missed 2 months, nash missed 2 months, kobe tore his achillies. Im not sure why people just ignore the fact the team was ravaged by injuries. Lost Jordan Hill for the year. Dwight was coming off major back surgery and played most of the year with a torn labrum

they were lucky to make the playoffs because some other teams lost? thats retarded. And the Lakers finished strong, I believe something like 28-12 in the last 40.

yes, the lakers got swept by the Spurs while starting 2, d leaguers in the backcourt


I understand why people dont like the Lakers but you can at least try to be somewhat objective

[Lakers2877]

as is beating this years Spurs...a team with 3 HoF players (2 of which had all-star seasons) and a HoF coach, which won 58 games this season and basically dominated the west coast playoffs by losing only 2 games in total prior to the championship series.
the spurs were solid but they werent a great team by any stretch of the imagination. The team of hall of famers with the hall of fame coach just came off 5 straight years of not even making the finals and probably made the finals because of the Westbrook injury. Many, many people consider the 86 celtics to be the greatest team of all time. They were still a great team just one year later

[DuMa]

09 and 10 titles are tainted by Perkins and KG's knee injuries as well. but funny how no Laker fans ever want to bring that up.

[Twiens]

09 and 10 titles are tainted by Perkins and KG's knee injuries as well. but funny how no Laker fans ever want to bring that up.
We could say the same thing about Bynum being injured...

[DMAVS41]

We could say the same thing about Bynum being injured...

I thought Bynum sucked and was not necessary? Oh...and Bynum was healthy in 11 and 12.

Put up;

14/10 in 11
17/11/2 in 12

[Lakers2877]

09 and 10 titles are tainted by Perkins and KG's knee injuries as well. but funny how no Laker fans ever want to bring that up.
I guess that means Bostons 08 title is tainted as well

and whose to say Boston would have even made the finals in 09 with a healthy KG?

[MastaKilla]

in this thread it's 2 Lakers fans vs 15 HEAT fans... Who's really insecure here?

[tomtucker]

That's the whole point. Of course they won, look how easy they had it. :oldlol:

Also, to the poster above, why would Lakers fans be threatened by the Heat? Makes no sense.

they had it easy ? .......then please name another team that could have defeated San Antonio !

[PJR]

im pretty sure that Laker team is considered great because they had Magic Johnson, Kareem and James Worthy, all while being coached by Pat Riley. beating the Celtics in the finals is reason enough to acknowledge their greatness

That's nice. I never said they weren't great. The point is that the path to the title doesn't diminish the accomplishment or the caliber of the team.

[Twiens]

I thought Bynum sucked and was not necessary? Oh...and Bynum was healthy in 11 and 12.

Put up;

14/10 in 11
17/11/2 in 12

I was responding to the Celtics fan about 09 and '10... One finals in which Bynum didn't play at all and another in which he played through a ton of injuries. Meaning the Lakers very well might've three-peated if he was healthy.

[r15mohd]

the spurs were solid but they werent a great team by any stretch of the imagination. The team of hall of famers with the hall of fame coach just came off 5 straight years of not even making the finals and probably made the finals because of the Westbrook injury. Many, many people consider the 86 celtics to be the greatest team of all time. They were still a great team just one year later

we can play what-if's...Spurs missed finals opportunities because of injuries as well during those 5-years.

and lets not forget that this Miami team is three years in the Finals, and ona back-to-back championship run. that, in itself, it greatness.

[Overdrive]

we can play what-if's...Spurs missed finals opportunities because of injuries as well during those 5-years.

and lets not forget that this Miami team is three years in the Finals, and ona back-to-back championship run. that, in itself, it greatness.

Not to take away from the Heat. I think they are a very talented squad. Not on the level of the best teams ever, but still better than quite some championship teams, BUT they win by default. I think they(the '12 version much much more than the '13) could compete with the teams after the three peat Lakers and most of the 70s teams. The 90s Bulls, the 80s Lakers, the three-peat Lakers, the '67 '76ers, 60s Celtics and 80s Celtics are absolutely out of range imo.

[DMAVS41]

they had it easy ? .......then please name another team that could have defeated San Antonio !

That isn't a fair assessment. You would compare the Spurs to other finals teams of the last few years.

only the 09 Magic were worse over the last 10 years or so.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Title is a Title.

[r15mohd]

Not to take away from the Heat. I think they are a very talented squad. Not on the level of the best teams ever, but still better than quite some championship teams, BUT they win by default. I think they(the '12 version much much more than the '13) could compete with the teams after the three peat Lakers and most of the 70s teams. The 90s Bulls, the 80s Lakers, the three-peat Lakers, the '67 '76ers, 60s Celtics and 80s Celtics are absolutely out of range imo.

more/less agree...they have flaws that are widely shown during their runs but in the end, all those teams you mentioned are considered great teams (3peat Lakers, 70s teams, etc)

I wouldn't really go so far back to compare tho. if it was era specific, yes those 60's squad leading up into the early 70's were great at their time but today's players would own them handedly IMO. Athletes today are just too skilled as opposed to back then.

[KyrieTheFuture]

How is wade simultaneously a top ten player and washed up?

[Overdrive]

more/less agree...they have flaws that are widely shown during their runs but in the end, all those teams you mentioned are considered great teams (3peat Lakers, 70s teams, etc)

I wouldn't really go so far back to compare tho. if it was era specific, yes those 60's squad leading up into the early 70's were great at their time but today's players would own them handedly IMO. Athletes today are just too skilled as opposed to back then.

Uh, I even meant they would fare great against most 70s Finals teams. I really don't wanna go into that generational thing, because I think genius thrives under any circumstances and those who are the greats at the time just have the talent to be the greats at any time. Basically if Lebron trained to become a basketball player in the late fifties he'd be as good or better than Baylor and same the other way round.

I think for example the championship Sonics(one of my favourite franchises in the NBA though)weren't as talented as the '12 Heat relative to their competition.

[Lakers2877]

That's nice. I never said they weren't great. The point is that the path to the title doesn't diminish the accomplishment or the caliber of the team.
And if you've read the thread I agreed champ

[Replay32]

This Miami team had an injured wade in the playoffs.

But the bottom line is that this heat team has gone to 3 straight finals, had a season where they won 27 games in a row, and won back to back titles. I think as time passes, this Heat team will be looked at different. I feel they will get more respect years from now.

I mean... They won 27 games in a row and a NBA title. Let that sink in for a moment and realize how rare that is in NBA history.

[Lakers2877]

we can play what-if's...Spurs missed finals opportunities because of injuries as well during those 5-years.

and lets not forget that this Miami team is three years in the Finals, and ona back-to-back championship run. that, in itself, it greatness.

I agree completely about the heat. I disagree that the spurs were a great team

[PJR]

This Miami team had an injured wade in the playoffs.

But the bottom line is that this heat team has gone to 3 straight finals, had a season where they won 27 games in a row, and won back to back titles. I think as time passes, this Heat team will be looked at different. I feel they will get more respect years from now.

I mean... They won 27 games in a row and a NBA title. Let that sink in for a moment and realize how rare that is in NBA history.

Yeah. Longest win streak in NBA History post the merger, and championship.

But they're "underwhelming". :oldlol: The characters that frequently post on this forum are comedy.

[Doranku]

Yeah. Longest win streak in NBA History post the merger, and championship.

But they're "underwhelming". :oldlol: The characters that frequently post on this forum are comedy.

They beat 3 sub-50 win teams in the Eastern Conference and a 37 year old Duncan in the finals while EASILY being the most talented team in the league. Yet they still got taken to 7 games by two vastly inferior teams and were a Ray Allen miracle 3 away from losing in the finals.

Do you need a definition of underwhelming?

[Doranku]

09 and 10 titles are tainted by Perkins and KG's knee injuries as well. but funny how no Laker fans ever want to bring that up.
:roll: Scrubdrick Scrubkins? His absence for 1.5 games means the title is "tainted"?

Talk about reaching.

[#number6ix#]

They beat 3 sub-50 win teams in the Eastern Conference and a 37 year old Duncan in the finals while EASILY being the most talented team in the league. Yet they still got taken to 7 games by two vastly inferior teams and were a Ray Allen miracle 3 away from losing in the finals.

Do you need a definition of underwhelming?
Bucks was the only sub .500 team bro... That's the advantage of being the number 1 seed u get to play a weaker team in the first round

[Blue&Orange]

between finding two other stars willing to take a paycut to be his lapdogs, competition getting injured left and right, and coaches making unbelievable mistakes (vogel & Pop) i'm petty sure Lebron made a pact with the Devil...

Wins for his hairline.


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