if Lebron was caught using roids

[chairman]

How bad would this hurt his all time ranking?

[9erempiree]

He falls out of the top 25.

[WayOfWade]

He'd be GOAT for sure.

[Rose'sACL]

That would mean that pretty much all the top players since the 90s have been using. His all time ranking would take as much hit as Jordan and kobe would as compared to players who played before the 90s. There is a reason no athlete ever snitches on other athletes unless he is caught. For decades now athletes in other sports have been using some kind of PEDs, it wouldn't surprise me if NBA players were using given that even bad player who are on the bench make millions.

[MP.Trey]

It would be very bad. Especially if he was the first and/or biggest of a string of busts. There would be a whole lot of asterisks in the record books and it would taint the image of the league as a whole if their best player/poster boy was on roids.

I can't say for sure what it would do to his ranking, I'm sure some would keep him where he is, maybe with an asterisk. Some would bump him down 10-20, some would probably choose to never mention him in any sort of ranking discussion.

But I can say that his legacy, along with the league's would be tarnished, and it would be a lot of negative press and a lot of recovery to get over a scandal of the sort.

[KyrieTheFuture]

You say steroids, I know you have no clue what you're talking about.

[Is He Ill]

:party: Ahhh, I can't wait. Hopefully the last two Heat titles will be revoked. :banana:

[Magic 32]

That would mean that pretty much all the top players since the 90s have been using. His all time ranking would take as much hit as Jordan and kobe would as compared to players who played before the 90s. There is a reason no athlete ever snitches on other athletes unless he is caught. For decades now athletes in other sports have been using some kind of PEDs, it wouldn't surprise me if NBA players were using given that even bad player who are on the bench make millions.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/33za4he.jpg
http://www.telefilmaddicted.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/07-puke1.gif

[funnystuff]

If he were on steroids he'd look like Iggy.

[Flash31]

That would mean that pretty much all the top players since the 90s have been using. His all time ranking would take as much hit as Jordan and kobe would as compared to players who played before the 90s. There is a reason no athlete ever snitches on other athletes unless he is caught. For decades now athletes in other sports have been using some kind of PEDs, it wouldn't surprise me if NBA players were using given that even bad player who are on the bench make millions.


see thats where youd be wrong,
Lance Armstrong was snitching on everybody and getting lawyers whatever he could do to out people while he himself was the biggest user and he was trying to cover that up,
He sued hundreds of people who tried to out him,he had several people blackballed from cycling,
anything to get an advantage he did

Carl Lewis did the same thing only he had the backing of the US Government on his side

[Nick Young]

It would get covered up, or ignored, like how Messi has been on HGH since he was 13 but no one talks about it

[Flash31]

If he were on steroids he'd look like Iggy.

hed look like JJ Redick,a tank

Redick went from 180 pounds to 230 pounds
and hes only 5'10

Redick is bigger than most players in the league
230 and youre only 5'10,damn

[Myth]

They need punishments like they have in college where they retroactively remove awards (MVP, championships, etc). They also need to do playoffs suspensions like college does bowl suspensions.

[Fudge]

hed look like JJ Redick,a tank

Redick went from 180 pounds to 230 pounds
and hes only 5'10

Redick is bigger than most players in the league
230 and youre only 5'10,damn
The **** you talking about 5'10"... Dude's 6'4, 190.

[KyrieTheFuture]

They need punishments like they have in college where they retroactively remove awards (MVP, championships, etc). They also need to do playoffs suspensions like college does bowl suspensions.

That is a horrendous idea. Yea let's take a horrible system and implement it in even more areas :facepalm retroactive punishments punish everyone but who actually committed the wrong doing. How is it fair to the fans, management, and other players to be banned from the post season if one player is on PEDs?

[DaSeba5]

It would be bad for the NBA just like it's bad for the MLB, so you're a fool if you want that to happen.

[FreezingTsmoove]

hed look like JJ Redick,a tank

Redick went from 180 pounds to 230 pounds
and hes only 5'10

Redick is bigger than most players in the league
230 and youre only 5'10,damn

:facepalm

[Magic 32]

It would be bad for the NBA just like it's bad for the MLB, so you're a fool if you want that to happen.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2lcqr7QJf1qihztbo1_500.gif

[DaSeba5]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2lcqr7QJf1qihztbo1_500.gif

Pretty much shows why the ignore list is garbage here.

[tikay0]

That is a horrendous idea. Yea let's take a horrible system and implement it in even more areas :facepalm retroactive punishments punish everyone but who actually committed the wrong doing. How is it fair to the fans, management, and other players to be banned from the post season if one player is on PEDs?

Let me translate his post.

"If Lebron gets caught with PEDs, that means EVERY NBA player in the history was using, and no doubt, every current NBA player is guilty as well."

The stans would find a way to make it seem like it's not a big issue.

[funnystuff]

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andre+Iguodala+gREf5WuvIbJm.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4014/4224386794_8b97bb4fd3.jpg


Lebron must be on some roids right? :rolleyes:

[tikay0]

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andre+Iguodala+gREf5WuvIbJm.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4014/4224386794_8b97bb4fd3.jpg


Lebron must be on some roids right? :rolleyes:

This genius uses a pic of Iggy full on flexing and Lebron just sitting there talking to reporters.

Ignorance is bliss.

[sic]

How did raping effect kobes all time ranking?

[therammingman]

How bad would this hurt his all time ranking?

wouldnt even consider him for a spot anywhere

[therammingman]

lbj doesnt look all jacked up normally, but on the court he is a monster

[HylianNightmare]

How did raping effect kobes all time ranking?


http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/you+would+need+this+_7768d2c894321c6960f264153df28 ae1.jpeg

[funnystuff]

This genius uses a pic of Iggy full on flexing and Lebron just sitting there talking to reporters.

Ignorance is bliss.
Regardless, the margin size is huge. Im just merely pointing out that youre calling out Lebron for using because hes a winner not because he actually looks like hes on roids.

[Magic 32]

Regardless, the margin size is huge. Im just merely pointing out that youre calling out Lebron for using because hes a winner not because he actually looks like hes on roids.

Same reason you are defending him.

[funnystuff]

Same reason you are defending him.
Wrong, if you actually understood what sterioids do to you, you might understand.

[tikay0]

Regardless, the margin size is huge. Im just merely pointing out that youre calling out Lebron for using because hes a winner not because he actually looks like hes on roids.

#1. I didn't even call him out. I pointed out how naive you must think we are to use those pics.

#2. Size margin? You know how fast I can find a pic where Lebron is looking roid raged out?

Do you really think that's hard?

[PickernRoller]

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/14f/682/8c5/resized/lebron-hgh-meme-generator-yes-it-s-scientifically-possible-my-jaw-line-can-grow-12-inches-after-20-yrs-old-without-peds-ac589e.jpg?1366147099.jpg

On topic: Wouldn't be any more overrated as he's today. Top 15 today, I can hardly put him on top 10 even with 4 rings.

[Myth]

That is a horrendous idea. Yea let's take a horrible system and implement it in even more areas :facepalm retroactive punishments punish everyone but who actually committed the wrong doing. How is it fair to the fans, management, and other players to be banned from the post season if one player is on PEDs?

It puts responsibility on management to monitor their players. It puts it on fans to not support cheaters. Also, before the playoffs or Finals, they should do drug screenings and eliminate any players caught.

[funnystuff]

#1. I didn't even call him out. I pointed out how naive you must think we are to use those pics.

#2. Size margin? You know how fast I can find a pic where Lebron is looking roid raged out?

Do you really think that's hard?
Go for it, but if it doesnt match Iggy or look close. Sit down.

[tikay0]

Go for it, but if it doesnt match Iggy or look close. Sit down.

#1. It does.

#2. Iggy looks like a super hero. Even being near that physique is crazy.

#3. You're mad.

[tikay0]

Iggy clearly looks like a being from another planet, while Lebron looks like a regular Joe off the streets. :rolleyes:

http://pisforprops.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nba_g_kingjames_576.jpg

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Andre+Iguodala+Los+Angeles+Lakers+v+Denver+4JToQTw r2_ql.jpg

[tikay0]

:eek:

http://blog.gtbets.eu/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/andre-iguodala-1.jpg

[tikay0]

Lebron needs to workout bro.

http://tattootribalpictures.com/wp-content/gallery/lebron-james-tattoos/lebron%20james%20tattoos%20on%20his%20arms.jpg

[funnystuff]

Hate to break it to you, but those are old and irrelevant pictures.

[kamil]

It would get covered up, or ignored, like how Messi has been on HGH since he was 13 but no one talks about it

Just like Nike confiscated the video of LeBron* getting dunked on by a highschooler?

[kennethgriffin]

i think its pretty obvious in this case lebron would be treated like barry bonds

kobe would be treated like ken griffey jr



no one would assume a skinny 205 pound kid who just shoots all day is gonna take roids

everyone would assume a 270 pound train who runs over people all day is definitely on roids



the guys who are named will be guilty and anyone else with assumptions will be guilty without even any evidence ( either way guys like lebron and wade will be assumed guilty )


lebrons all time status would be stripped. no hall of fame.

[MP.Trey]

Hate to break it to you, but those are old and irrelevant pictures.
Says the guy who's first picture he posted was of Iggy in a 76ers jersey. :roll:

[KyrieTheFuture]

How do you guys not realize that pictures are a horrendous way to test for PEDs? Go look at a picture of rashard lewis or hedo turkoglu they look super ripped

[tikay0]

How do you guys not realize that pictures are a horrendous way to test for PEDs? Go look at a picture of rashard lewis or hedo turkoglu they look super ripped

Guess you weren't paying attention to our discussion...:confusedshrug:

[funnystuff]

Says the guy who's first picture he posted was of Iggy in a 76ers jersey. :roll:
Yeah, because Iggy was on the 6ers so long ago. :rolleyes:

Morons.

[red1]

All of you posters thinking that lebron must be on steroids or thinking that he looks too deezed are just showing your immaturity and lack of knowledge on the subject. The issue has never been steroids, if nba players use peds it would be hgh if anything. The guy is not even that muscular. He just has a stocky frame and bulky shoulders, nothing else is too impressive let alone suspect

[Heavincent]

I wouldn't care at all.

[tikay0]

All of you posters thinking that lebron must be on steroids or thinking that he looks too deezed are just showing your immaturity and lack of knowledge on the subject. The issue has never been steroids, if nba players use peds it would be hgh if anything. The guy is not even that muscular. He just has a stocky frame and bulky shoulders, nothing else is too impressive let alone suspect

:biggums:

Wrong. If NBA players were using, they'd be using EPOs.

Why would they be taking supplements that Sylvester Stallone uses?

[red1]

:biggums:

Wrong. If NBA players were using, they'd be using EPOs.

Why would they be taking supplements that Sylvester Stallone uses?
Are you serious? It helps you recover from injuries and minimizes wear and tear - two of the major issues plaguing all nba players. Basketball is a young man's game and hgh helps you neutralize that disadvantage as you progress in your career. Players go through all this trouble icing their knees and taping their ankles every game, why wouldnt they do something as simple as taking the odd hgh injection? Wade lebron and kobe all have a ton of wear and tear, hgh is like a miracle for them. Something like EPO is too much of a hassle for basketball players, that shit is strictly for biking

[Straight_Ballin]

How bad would this hurt his all time ranking?

Many 16 year olds on ISH would cry.

[deja vu]

I don't think they will revoke/void his two titles. It's a team sport after all.

Maybe they will void his MVPs. His awards and records will be erased. Don't think they will even put his name in the record books even with an asterisk. :lol

But the NBA will protect its superstars at all costs. The league will lose so much prestige and money if sh*t hits the fan.

Only time this will happen is when the government become really serious about this issue. So far, they don't give a damn as long as American athletes are winning medals left and right. It's only the USADA or some other agency doing the chasing.

Sooner or later though, an NBA superstar will get caught, though. You can't hide these things forever.

[zass]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h5kg5f8Im0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9YL04v-J5U

Bill Burr has a point:lol

[tikay0]

Are you serious? It helps you recover from injuries and minimizes wear and tear - two of the major issues plaguing all nba players. Basketball is a young man's game and hgh helps you neutralize that disadvantage as you progress in your career. Players go through all this trouble icing their knees and taping their ankles every game, why wouldnt they do something as simple as taking the odd hgh injection? Wade lebron and kobe all have a ton of wear and tear, hgh is like a miracle for them. Something like EPO is too much of a hassle for basketball players, that shit is strictly for biking

Not a steroids expert. You're probably right.

I just figured EPOs was more of an energy enhancer, and HGH was more of a bodybuilding type PED. I wasn't factoring in the healing agencies in HGH.

Sorry for using the Chappelle face on you. :oldlol:

[KDthunderup]

You have to suspect someone like to Lebron to of used PED's , this guy seems to of never had an injury before

[kamil]

Many 16 year olds on ISH would cry.

It would sound like a Justin Bieber concert.

[dgaras]

most of you need to go learn what steroids are and their uses. just because someone isnt big doesnt mean theyre not on steroids.

[KNOW1EDGE]

lol @ funnystuff getting ethered in this thread.

[tikay0]

most of you need to go learn what steroids are and their uses. just because someone isnt big doesnt mean theyre not on steroids.

Yes, that's clearly evident with most cyclists and boxers.

The thing about the NBA is, its an anaerobic sport. One would be hard pressed to find someone that travels and plays basketball for 82 game stretches and still looking like they were carved out of wood, and maintaining such a physical frame.

Obviously they have nutritionists and training regimens, but PEDs would definitely aid in the recovery and maintenance of size, speed, energy levels, etc.

You have to imagine some of these college or fresh out of highschool players going to PEDs to adjust to the faster pace and longer scheduling of the NBA. That's not a shocker at all. The access to PEDs would be there in the blink of an eye.

The amount of money these guys make. They can buy the newest and the most undetectable stuff on the market, and no one would know about it.

[SpurrDurr]

EVERYONE in the league uses illegal substances.

The only difference is that someone (the richest, most famous or just well connected) might use the cutting edge ones while the vast majority is stuck with steroids or outdated stuff.

Stars will always be protected while i feel sorry for the scrubs that will get caught in the next years.

[funnystuff]

lol @ funnystuff getting ethered in this thread.
Oh yeah totally. Because he posted that 5 year old picture of Lebron and began to push his opinion that hes on steroids.


A 5 year old picture. :roll:

[bluechox2]

Espn is gona do a 360 and jump on rose's c@ck