I recommend people to buy a firearm and your permit....

[9erempiree]

With all the crimes that seem to be happening, I suggest many people to get a firearm and apply with your local county sheriff's department and apply for a conceal weapons permit.

Here are some list of guns I recommend for purchase for self defense. Most of these full size models can be had in a compact size. If you're from California, like myself, you may want to check the Department of Justice to see if the gun is available in the state. I'm just going to list weapons of choice and allowable here in Cali.

USP .45 ($1000 - $1200) - very soft shooting gun for a .45, feels good in the hands.
http://themarksman.net/shop/image/cache/data/New%20Guns/Handguns/Pistols/HK/usp45l-1000x800.jpg

Glock 21 ($500-$700) - probably one of the most popular gun in the world. Affordable and it works. Striker fire.
http://www.besthandgunguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/glock-21.jpg

1911 and variants ($900-$5000) this model has many variants from various makers. So the price will vary from cheap to custom made pearl handles.
http://www.ruger.com/products/sr1911/images/6700.jpg

http://blog.wilsoncombat.com/wp-content/uploads/2-ss-classics-002.jpg

[D-Rose]

You stupidity from the NBA forum has permeated here too :facepalm

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with guns...but putting one in the hands of our average citizen is only going to lead to more trouble.

[9erempiree]

You stupidity from the NBA forum has permeated here too :facepalm

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with guns...but putting one in the hands of our average citizen is only going to lead to more trouble.

:facepalm

Trouble for criminals.

You need training to get your permit. They don't just hand them out.

[niko]

Guns are only a good deterrent if the intruder is outside, trying to come in, and as a last resort thing, or something to threaten with. Carrying guns outside to ward off problems is probably more likely to cause a problem than solve it.

[DukeDelonte13]

i know it varies from state to state but at least here those permits are such a waste of F*cking time and money.

You don't need one to own a gun.

You don't need one to transport your guns.

You need to pay for and sit through a boring all day class.

Your license get marked and if you ever get pulled over police treat you like a felon cause you might have a gun on you.

Even if you do get the permit, in many places like bars, libraries, schools, etc. it can be a felony to just have a gun simply on you.

God forbid you have your gun on you and you get into a fight, or get a DUI, any crime with one on you is automatically a felony and carries mandatory time in a lot of instances.


I think to myself, wow is it really worth all that just so you can carry a f*cking gun around in home depot or wall mart?

[9erempiree]

Crime does not seem to be any more or less rampant than before, but yea, concealed carry is fvcking sweet. Can't wait to get my permit. Prolly go with a Desert Eagle 9mm myself, and hopefully get a class III ffl in time....

Good man and congrats when that day comes. Like I mentioned during the Zimmerman case. Once you get a permit to carry, remember, it's you protecting the gun. Avoid using it. Pull it out when you know you are going to use it.

I recommend anything besides a Desert Eagle. They are just too big and don't mess with a 9mm DE. Get it in it's original caliber.

[9erempiree]

i know it varies from state to state but at least here those permits are such a waste of F*cking time and money.

You don't need one to own a gun.

You don't need one to transport your guns.

You need to pay for and sit through a boring all day class.

Your license get marked and if you ever get pulled over police treat you like a felon cause you might have a gun on you.

Even if you do get the permit, in many places like bars, libraries, schools, etc. it can be a felony to just have a gun simply on you.

God forbid you have your gun on you and you get into a fight, or get a DUI, any crime with one on you is automatically a felony and carries mandatory time in a lot of instances.


I think to myself, wow is it really worth all that just so you can carry a f*cking gun around in home depot or wall mart?

You are right but you are missing the point.

When you get a permit to carry, you will be taught not to bring it to you in a drinking establishment or you will lose your permit. You are also taught not to bring it on government property such as schools.

Why are you going to get in a fight when you are carrying? Like I said, you are protecting the gun. You are taught to avoid these situations. DUI? You don't carry when you drink.

Like I said most of these stuff you are taught not to do if you are going to carry. It's also common sense.

You are not worthy to carry my friend.

[AlphaWolf24]

- F the little pea shooters...

- night time = close range...


mini shotty
http://www.outlawgunsandammo.com/images/rsz_serbu_(2).jpg

[9erempiree]

- F the little pea shooters...

- night time = close range...


mini shotty


:applause:

I actually saw a review on that today. It kicks like hell.

[longhornfan1234]

More guns in law abiding citizens hands brings down crime.

[Crystallas]

Obvious troll post. :lol at those who fell for it.

[Rasheed1]

More guns in law abiding citizens hands brings down crime.


yeah, if only those kindergarteners would have had guns that day at Sandy Hook

:rolleyes:

[9erempiree]

Obvious troll post. :lol at those who fell for it.

You're from Chicago, you really don't have an opinion on this. One of the tougher city and state on guns but also high crime.

:facepalm

[StocktonFan]

http://imageshack.us/a/img844/6599/image022a.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img844/6599/image022a.jpg

+ many more

[9erempiree]

yeah, if only those kindergarteners would have had guns that day at Sandy Hook

:rolleyes:

I don't know about kids but the teachers would be great.

[9erempiree]

Just look at the topics as of late, just too many violent crimes happening.

I'm pretty scared myself and I recommend people to be aware of their surroundings.

[longhornfan1234]

yeah, if only those kindergarteners would have had guns that day at Sandy Hook

:rolleyes:

If the teachers were strapped, the Sandy Hook kids would have never died.

[StocktonFan]

If the teachers were strapped, the Sandy Hook kids would have never died.

He'd rather have black folks like himself strap themselves illegally to kill each other and the white man. They'll then take a long toke and pretend like it never happened - black mentality.

[Rasheed1]

If the teachers were strapped, the Sandy Hook kids would have never died.


right because it is a definite fact that the teachers would have been to stop the guy who had high caliber weapons..

:rolleyes:

do the teachers get rifles?

What if the teachers start packing guns, and it creates incidents where the teachers kill unarmed students?

What if some students decide to sneak attack the teacher and take the gun?


We dont need anymore bright ideas from the NRA.. Thanks to them (and ALEC) we already have people shooting each other in the streets over bullsh*t.. I doubt giving guns to teachers will solve more problems than it causes..

The problem is that American society is simply too damned violent... Too many guns and too many paranoid cowards pulling the triggers

[Rasheed1]

He'd rather have black folks like himself strap themselves illegally to kill each other and the white man. They'll then take a long toke and pretend like it never happened - black mentality.


If that was my mentality? I would just let white kids murder each other in schools like they have been doing... Wouldnt have to lift a finger either.. just let cowards like you do all the work - fake tuff guy showing his guns on the internet mentality

:rolleyes:

[Jailblazers7]

right because it is a definite fact that the teachers would have been to stop the guy who had high caliber weapons..

:rolleyes:

do the teachers get rifles?

What if the teachers start packing guns, and it creates incidents where the teachers kill unarmed students?

What if some students decide to sneak attack the teacher and take the gun?


We dont need anymore bright ideas from the NRA.. Thanks to them (and ALEC) we already have people shooting each other in the streets over bullsh*t.. I doubt giving guns to teachers will solve more problems than it causes..

The problem is that American society is simply too damned violent... Too many guns and too many paranoid cowards pulling the triggers

Well, the only argument that really has any traction is that the gunman would have never attempted the shooting if he knew that the teachers had firearms. I think there is a fairly legitimate case to be made their but I don't necessarily agree with that as a solution to the issue.

[Rasheed1]

Well, the only argument that really has any traction is that the gunman would have never attempted the shooting if he knew that the teachers had firearms. I think there is a fairly legitimate case to be made their but I don't necessarily agree with that as a solution to the issue.

true, but then you pay a price in other ways... Like stupid incidents between teachers and students (and maybe other teachers)

[9erempiree]

true, but then you pay a price in other ways... Like stupid incidents between teachers and students (and maybe other teachers)

When is really the last time their was a teacher incident?

[Jailblazers7]

true, but then you pay a price in other ways... Like stupid incidents between teachers and students (and maybe other teachers)

Yeah, I agree. Something like that makes things more dangerous on average (not specifically talking about teachers). The probability of an event like Sandy Hook is highly improbable. Reducing the probability of a Sandy Hook situation from 1 in 100 million to 1 in 1 billion isn't with the risk.

[Rasheed1]

When is really the last time their was a teacher incident?


thats the point.... there hasnt been one .... because they dont have guns...

teachers deal with alot of sh*t from kids and even from co workers... The last thing we need is to introduce guns into schools..

[StocktonFan]

If that was my mentality? I would just let white kids murder each other in schools like they have been doing... Wouldnt have to lift a finger either.. just let cowards like you do all the work - fake tuff guy showing his guns on the internet mentality

:rolleyes:

which is as common as a black man shooting another black man? Zimmerman 1 Trayvon 0 stay mad

OP suggested we all purchase firearms, i'm a leap and few steps ahead... been so before Obama was president. Again - stay mad

My right to purchase firearms legally is something i take full advantage of, a right most blacks have voided by their own action. stay mad

[Jailblazers7]

Seriously tho, how many people would want to send their kid to a pre/elementary school where all the teachers have guns? I know I would never send my (hypothetical) child there.

[StocktonFan]

thats the point.... there hasnt been one .... because they dont have guns...

teachers deal with alot of sh*t from kids and even from co workers... The last thing we need is to introduce guns into schools..

No one mentioned an incident WITH GUNS, but rather a violent incident in general.

[Rasheed1]

which is as common as a black man shooting another black man? Zimmerman 1 Trayvon 0 stay mad

OP suggested we all purchase firearms, i'm a leap and few steps ahead... been so before Obama was president. Again - stay mad

My right to purchase firearms legally is something i take full advantage of, a right most blacks have voided by their own action. stay mad


You sound a little butthurt right now...

you're coward and your ass would be dead without a gun... stay scared :oldlol:

[StocktonFan]

You sound a little butthurt right now...

you're coward and your ass would be dead without a gun... stay scared :oldlol:

Look who's internet tough guy now...

My firearms are a last resort, a SHTF of sort. Lets just say your ape ass would get demolished. But i am smarter then that, i'll let your own race kill you first.

Zimmerman 1 Trayvon 0

stay mad

[Rasheed1]

Seriously tho, how many people would want to send their kid to a pre/elementary school where all the teachers have guns? I know I would never send my (hypothetical) child there.

exactly.... I wouldnt to send my children to any school (pre all the way thru college) where teachers have guns

its simply a dumb idea

[ballup]

Don't worry about me, I have a nerf gun. Ain't nobody messin' with this gansta.

[Rasheed1]

Look who's internet tough guy now...

My firearms are a last resort, a SHTF of sort. Lets just say your ape ass would get demolished. But i am smarter then that, i'll let your own race kill you first.

Zimmerman 1 Trayvon 0

stay mad


http://www.masterjules.net/meltdown.gif

:oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

you guys are really racist :(

[Jameerthefear]

Really Stockton? I saw that post :facepalm

[Rasheed1]

Really Stockton? I saw that post :facepalm


:roll: he took it down... the guy melted faster than ice cream on the stove..

[Crystallas]

You're from Chicago, you really don't have an opinion on this. One of the tougher city and state on guns but also high crime.

:facepalm

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4wjBdOOGaHE/TdjwXXiNrXI/AAAAAAAABSU/sdVbUIIdoYw/s400/orly_155.jpg

[StocktonFan]

Really Stockton? I saw that post :facepalm

Good

Meltdown? i've yet to see it lol

[OldSkoolball#52]

i know it varies from state to state but at least here those permits are such a waste of F*cking time and money.

You don't need one to own a gun.

You don't need one to transport your guns.

You need to pay for and sit through a boring all day class.

Your license get marked and if you ever get pulled over police treat you like a felon cause you might have a gun on you.

Even if you do get the permit, in many places like bars, libraries, schools, etc. it can be a felony to just have a gun simply on you.

God forbid you have your gun on you and you get into a fight, or get a DUI, any crime with one on you is automatically a felony and carries mandatory time in a lot of instances.


I think to myself, wow is it really worth all that just so you can carry a f*cking gun around in home depot or wall mart?



Strong username to post content irony.

[Rasheed1]

Good

Meltdown? i've yet to see it lol


lol.. you took that post down because you knew you were on the fast track to getting banned AGAIN....

Sheed 1 StocktonFan 0 :oldlol:

[Graviton]

It is kind of ironic how the cities/states with the most strict gun laws have one of the highest crime rates. Places like District of Columbia, California, Chicago, New York all have one of the highest violent crimes, especially ones committed with firearms. Yet I don't hear about all these issues in states with less gun restrictions. Common sense would tell me it's much less likely for someone to attempt an illegal activity against people he knows have guns themselves than for the same person to try it against unarmed citizens that have no means of immediate protection.

[COnDEMnED]

right because it is a definite fact that the teachers would have been to stop the guy who had high caliber weapons..

:rolleyes:

do the teachers get rifles?

What if the teachers start packing guns, and it creates incidents where the teachers kill unarmed students?

What if some students decide to sneak attack the teacher and take the gun?


We dont need anymore bright ideas from the NRA.. Thanks to them (and ALEC) we already have people shooting each other in the streets over bullsh*t.. I doubt giving guns to teachers will solve more problems than it causes..

The problem is that American society is simply too damned violent... Too many guns and too many paranoid cowards pulling the triggers
My Family is full of retired Lieutenant Sheriffs, FBI Agents, Internal Affairs, and Marines, we tend to know our guns in my family. What were these "high caliber weapons" you speak of that this guy at Sandy Hook used? If you say Assault rifle, I'm going to unload on you.

[niko]

It is kind of ironic how the cities/states with the most strict gun laws have one of the highest crime rates. Places like District of Columbia, California, Chicago, New York all have one of the highest violent crimes, especially ones committed with firearms. Yet I don't hear about all these issues in states with less gun restrictions. Common sense would tell me it's much less likely for someone to attempt an illegal activity against people he knows have guns themselves than for the same person to try it against unarmed citizens that have no means of immediate protection.
Utter bullshit. NYC is so far down the list of cities of violent crime per pct of people that you'll have trouble finding it on a list. It's been about 15 to 20 years since NYC in the list of cities with the most violent crimes. Check it out, NYC has murder totals that compare to cities with 1/20th the population.

NYC has also had much fewer homicides and gun crimes since the strict rules went into effect.

i'm not sure about the other cities you mentioned but if you are trying to make a point NYC gun laws are failing due to our massive amount of crime, that's utterly false.

[Graviton]

Utter bullshit. NYC is so far down the list of cities of violent crime per pct of people that you'll have trouble finding it on a list. It's been about 15 to 20 years since NYC in the list of cities with the most violent crimes. Check it out, NYC has murder totals that compare to cities with 1/20th the population.

NYC has also had much fewer homicides and gun crimes since the strict rules went into effect.

i'm not sure about the other cities you mentioned but if you are trying to make a point NYC gun laws are failing due to our massive amount of crime, that's utterly false.
Yea I was thinking more 90s lol. New York has gotten that much better?

I know District of Columbia has like the most strict gun laws in the country, and it's one of the worst when it comes to violent crime. I have no idea how the city that the damn president lives in can be so shitty.

[niko]

Yea I was thinking more 90s lol. New York has gotten that much better?

I know District of Columbia has like the most strict gun laws in the country, and it's one of the worst when it comes to violent crime. I have no idea how the city that the damn president lives in can be so shitty.
Yep, the crime stats in NY in mid 90's were high but have gone down every year since 1998 except for 2012 which was slightly up 2011. Nothing like DOC as you mentioned which is shit. I love the surrounding area's (there are some awesome places to live down there) but in DOC there are neighborhoods that are horrendous and are ridiculously bad.

[COnDEMnED]

Anyway here is a list of what I own at the moment.
Semi Auto Banelli Shotgun (hunting).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BTw4mZ2Llw
Semi Auto Banelli M2 Tactical (home defense)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSxlSmUaC_4
Ruger .357 Magnum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BulT3h_V6F4
S&W Police Issued 9MM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtT0GkY25J4&noredirect=1
S&W M&P .22 Handgun (my cheap soda can plinker)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXamdDJPRPY

Also a handful of things like 410 shotgun, over/under barrel double trigger 10gauge shotgun, Winchester 12 Gauge and Mossberg 12 Gauge. :pimp:

[Graviton]

Yep, the crime stats in NY in mid 90's were high but have gone down every year since 1998 except for 2012 which was slightly up 2011. Nothing like DOC as you mentioned which is shit. I love the surrounding area's (there are some awesome places to live down there) but in DOC there are neighborhoods that are horrendous and are ridiculously bad.
Watching videos of DC of the neighborhoods literally right outside the White House is so depressing, I see empty streets with trash everywhere and nobody around. It looks like the next Detroit. How the **** does that happen, if the President can't even improve his own city how can he be trusted with the country? Kinda ridiculous there are no riots there when the King is living large in his castle while the surrounding area is dying. :oldlol:

[Rasheed1]

My Family is full of retired Lieutenant Sheriffs, FBI Agents, Internal Affairs, and Marines, we tend to know our guns in my family. What were these "high caliber weapons" you speak of that this guy at Sandy Hook used? If you say Assault rifle, I'm going to unload on you.


:kobe:

Thats why I ask what kinds of guns the teachers will get to use... Will they get to matchup against what the sandy hook murder had?

Where does it stop? thats the point of the post.. I wont take the bait and argue the semantics of an assault rifle ... Nobody said the weapons were fully automatic..

Its a bad idea period..

[Graviton]

Anyway here is a list of what I own at the moment.
Semi Auto Banelli Shotgun (hunting).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BTw4mZ2Llw
Semi Auto Banelli M2 Tactical (home defense)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSxlSmUaC_4
Ruger .357 Magnum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BulT3h_V6F4
S&W Police Issued 9MM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtT0GkY25J4&noredirect=1
S&W M&P .22 Handgun (my cheap soda can plinker)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXamdDJPRPY

Also a handful of things like 410 shotgun, over/under barrel double trigger 10gauge shotgun, Winchester 12 Gauge and Mossberg 12 Gauge. :pimp:

No 1911? Wtf man? Were you not a fan of John Woo movies growing up? :(

[ILLsmak]

You are right but you are missing the point.

When you get a permit to carry, you will be taught not to bring it to you in a drinking establishment or you will lose your permit. You are also taught not to bring it on government property such as schools.

Why are you going to get in a fight when you are carrying? Like I said, you are protecting the gun. You are taught to avoid these situations. DUI? You don't carry when you drink.

Like I said most of these stuff you are taught not to do if you are going to carry. It's also common sense.

You are not worthy to carry my friend.

lol when else would you want to conceal carry, tho? No gov property, no drinking, no fighting... sounds like a pretty boring life.

Keep in mind, if you have a gun you have to shoot someone. And once you shoot them, who knows what will happen. You could still go to jail. You might think pulling out a gun and pointing it like uh BACKOFFBRO is a good idea, but I don't.

If I had a gun (and only gave thought to getting one for a short while) it would only be seen as it was being pulled and the person was being shot. Otherwise, it's stupid. Learn martial arts and the ability to read people by their body language (so you can know before someone tries to move on you), makes more sense.

Edit: Not to mention, having a gun gives someone else the right to shoot you.

-Smak

[Psycho]

:lol These are straight out of Call of Duty. OP knows nothing about guns :lol

[COnDEMnED]

:kobe:

Thats why I ask what kinds of guns the teachers will get to use... Will they get to matchup against what the sandy hook murder had?

Where does it stop? thats the point of the post.. I wont take the bait and argue the semantics of an assault rifle ... Nobody said the weapons were fully automatic..

Its a bad idea period..
The reason I said what I did is because a majority of the population are under the assumption that the sandy hook psychopath killed all those children with an assault rifle, or even a rifle, he did not, he used 4 handguns. That's my beef with the liberal media. Agenda completed if they wanted to scare the population into thinking this was an assault rifle issue. Obama parading the sandy hook family members around the country to push his new found anti rifle beliefs is a crock of shit. Obama had his chance to change gun laws in his first term, he chose to stick with the laws Bush set in place. Why the change of heart now? Sandy hook surely isn't the first school shooting.

More to the point.

"Whether or not the mainstream media are intentionally spreading disinformation about the Sandy Hook elementary tragedy, there is one thing for certain: not only are violent crime rates at a modern low and going down, but only 323 homicides were committed by rifles in 2011. That includes hunting rifles, assault rifles, military style rifles, semi-automatic rifles and whatever label one comes up with, regardless of magazine or clip capacity.

In a nation of 311 million people, the odds of being killed by a rifle is about one homicide per million people, which is far less than the odds of being murdered by a blunt object. But we don

[COnDEMnED]

No 1911? Wtf man? Were you not a fan of John Woo movies growing up? :(
There's a whole bunch of guns I'd love to have, 1911 being one of them, problem being sometimes its hard for me to stop purchasing once I start. I'm absolutely an out of control spender, sometimes I have to prioritize things like bills and food before I allow myself to buy a new toy. Otherwise I wouldn't have electricity or food. Just splurged on a PS4, in a few months ill probably pick up a new gun, if we still live in a free country that is. :cheers:

[COnDEMnED]

exactly.... I wouldnt to send my children to any school (pre all the way thru college) where teachers have guns

its simply a dumb idea
I have a solution to this problem if anyone wants to start a grassroots campaign. As I stated before, I have many family members in law enforcement and the military. Many of them have trained dogs that go on the job with them, highly trained and highly skilled dogs. I propose since not everyone can agree to give teachers or just school administrators firearms, we create a task force of highly trained officers accompanied with highly trained dogs to patrol the school grounds. Every school I went to had 2 police officers on duty, on campus, everyday, all day. Why not just up the ante and train them for disaster situations like school shootings? Give them a dog each, train the dogs to work in a pack, teach them to go for the shooting hand. You have a dog/police officer team per 1,000 students.

Students don't have to fear their teachers have guns.
Parents don't have to fear their children are in a dangerous environment.
It probably wouldn't cost too much money to implement.
In case of an emergency, fatality levels will be low, with maybe a dead dog.
Everybody wins?

[KevinNYC]

With all the crimes that seem to be happening,

Confirmation bias? Non objective news sources? Why do you believe something that is not true. Crime in the US has been going down very steadily for a while.

http://www.decisionsonevidence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Estimated-Violent-Crime-Rate-US-Total-1960-2009.png

Number of gun owners is going down.
The General Social Survey (GSS), conducted roughly every two years by the independent research organization NORC at the University of Chicago, with principal funding from the National Science Foundation, provides a widely-used look at the rate of gun ownership over time. The GSS data show a substantial decline in the shares of both households and individuals with guns. When the GSS first asked about gun ownership in 1973, 49% reported having a gun or revolver in their home or garage. In 2012, 34% said they had a gun in their home or garage.

Gun manufacturers know this. They also know that gun sales are mainly driven by gun owners buying more guns. So they have a vested interest in creating a climate of fear.

[Bandito]

Guns are expensive in the US. I can probably get that same $ 1000 USP for 20 bucks.

[KevinNYC]

Yea I was thinking more 90s lol. New York has gotten that much better?

New York has gotten much, much better. We have 8.2 million people (and workday population that is much higher when people commute to work) and we have had less than a murder a day for the first half of this year. 2012 set a record and 2013 is expected to be 25% below that. (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/nyregion/city-homicides-drop-sharply-again-police-cite-new-antigang-strategy.html?_r=0) I don't think New York has seen those numbers since the 1950's.

Wikipedia's got the stats for 2011 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate)up and you would be more likely to be murdered in Charlotte, Whichita, Sacramento or Minneapolis.

New York's murder rate peaked in 1990 the first year Dinkins was mayor and then came down every year under Dinkins. Dinkins got a special tax passed that allowed NYC to hire thousands more cops. Giuliani likes to pretend he crime only started coming down once he took office but it started under Dinkins. Rudy inherited a falling crime rate. One thing he deserves credit for is realizing that with all these extra cops you now had the manpower to devise new policing strategies. That was actually his Police Chief Bratton's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Bratton#Los_Angeles) idea and when people started to give him credit Rudy ran him out of town. Bloomberg hired Dinkins' chief of police back and crime has continued falling for 12 years now. So, I'm little skeptical about Rudy's claims.

Also as I pointed out the national trend has been going downward, so they are large demographic forces at work here.

[bmulls]

Guns are expensive in the US. I can probably get that same $ 1000 USP for 20 bucks.

Not a real one you can't

:lol

[Bandito]

lol when else would you want to conceal carry, tho? No gov property, no drinking, no fighting... sounds like a pretty boring life.

Keep in mind, if you have a gun you have to shoot someone. And once you shoot them, who knows what will happen. You could still go to jail. You might think pulling out a gun and pointing it like uh BACKOFFBRO is a good idea, but I don't.

If I had a gun (and only gave thought to getting one for a short while) it would only be seen as it was being pulled and the person was being shot. Otherwise, it's stupid. Learn martial arts and the ability to read people by their body language (so you can know before someone tries to move on you), makes more sense.

Edit: Not to mention, having a gun gives someone else the right to shoot you.

-SmakOMG, this is the most ridiculous stuff I heard from you. Learn martial arts? How is that going to prevent you from getting shot? Do you think is like the movies where the bad guy is going to be pointing the gun next to your arm and you are just going to jump and take it away? In real life the bad guy is going to be farther than arms length and if you make a move that make him even more nervous he is going to shoot you. Reading people by their body language...next thing you are going to tell me is that you can evade bullets by listening to the finger pulling on the trigger.:roll:

[9erempiree]

Anyway here is a list of what I own at the moment.
Semi Auto Banelli Shotgun (hunting).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BTw4mZ2Llw
Semi Auto Banelli M2 Tactical (home defense)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSxlSmUaC_4
Ruger .357 Magnum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BulT3h_V6F4
S&W Police Issued 9MM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtT0GkY25J4&noredirect=1
S&W M&P .22 Handgun (my cheap soda can plinker)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXamdDJPRPY

Also a handful of things like 410 shotgun, over/under barrel double trigger 10gauge shotgun, Winchester 12 Gauge and Mossberg 12 Gauge. :pimp:

You must have a 1911 in every collection.

[johndeeregreen]

Right now I actually only have one firearm, my hunting rifle, a Remington 700 SPS, .30-06. My step dad has Browning over-unders, Wingmasters, .22s, etc., so if we are ever shooting clays or just plinking I generally use his guns. I certainly don't need anything for personal defense, luckily I live in a country that isn't a war zone.

[Balla_Status]

exactly.... I wouldnt to send my children to any school (pre all the way thru college) where teachers have guns

its simply a dumb idea

And you haven't provided any reasons as to why it's dumb. There are college campuses in the US right now that allow concealed carry. How come we're not hearing about gun shootings happening daily on them? Cus that's what everyone on ISH seems to say would happen.

[pauk]

You can have your pea shooters ill go with:

http://media.vorotila.net/items/d/8/7/t1@d87563e0-609e-48d2-8c39-286fd067e59f.jpg


....in call of duty blackops...

[9erempiree]

You can have your pea shooters ill go with:

http://media.vorotila.net/items/d/8/7/t1@d87563e0-609e-48d2-8c39-286fd067e59f.jpg


....in call of duty blackops...

Too bad a video game doesn't depict how bad that gun is in real life. That's a novelty item in the real world of guns.

It's almost $1 per round to shoot as well.

[9erempiree]

Another good gun is the Glock 23, in .40 caliber, a little bit cheaper to shoot and as much stopping power as .45 caliber.

[kNicKz]

yeah, if only those kindergarteners would have had guns that day at Sandy Hook

:rolleyes:

You realize that you are using NRA tactics for your own cause? clown?

[9erempiree]

You guys can go the cheaper route and get a Mossberg for protection.

[Rasheed1]

And you haven't provided any reasons as to why it's dumb. There are college campuses in the US right now that allow concealed carry. How come we're not hearing about gun shootings happening daily on them? Cus that's what everyone on ISH seems to say would happen.

I did give reasons why its dumb...

secondly I work in a school district and I can tell you from experience that teachers guns would be a bad idea. Students get in fights and teachers are often called upon to break them up.. Introducing guns into that mix would make a bad situation much worse..

Having guns around kids is a bad idea.. More opportunity for bad things to happen..

and also nobody said there would be shootings every day :facepalm



You realize that you are using NRA tactics for your own cause? clown?

NRA tactics? WTF does that mean? did the NRA invent sarcasm? clown?

what a stupid question

[AlphaWolf24]

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sten-gun-560x266.jpg


come ....at.....me....bro.

[MMM]

nothing wrong with owning a gun but it is a simplistic solution to a complex crime problem.

[TheReal Kendall]

In Bama you just gotta pay like $20 and a background check to get a permit.

Easy to get a gun to cause you don't need a permit to buy one.

I had 2 guns cause where I grew up was rough but I sold them because if you got one them you gotta be prepared to use it.

I also don't think the teachers should have guns in school cause that causes a lot of other problems like someone mentioned.

I say just hire on duty police or armed security guards at schools to prevent shootings and stuff.

[niko]

I remember in JHS we had one girl who was just an evil evil bitch and just endlessly called the teacher who let the kids in the school in the morning nasty things (called everyone nasty things). One day i don't know what she said but the woman responded and they were brawling. Just having a huge nasty fistfight. A gun in that situation would have been a huge problem, the student could grab it, the teacher could completely lose her cool and use it, teacher could have pulled it out cause she felt threatened, etc. And it was a situation the teacher was threatened, something probably not ridiculous could happen, and a situation that if you add a gun to would be horrific.

[ballup]

I'd like to see someone come up with a financially feasible plan that would supply teachers with guns. The education department usually doesn't have enough money to get good textbooks for all of its classes. What makes people think that they can afford guns? :oldlol:

[Rasheed1]

I remember in JHS we had one girl who was just an evil evil bitch and just endlessly called the teacher who let the kids in the school in the morning nasty things (called everyone nasty things). One day i don't know what she said but the woman responded and they were brawling. Just having a huge nasty fistfight. A gun in that situation would have been a huge problem, the student could grab it, the teacher could completely lose her cool and use it, teacher could have pulled it out cause she felt threatened, etc. And it was a situation the teacher was threatened, something probably not ridiculous could happen, and a situation that if you add a gun to would be horrific.


Could you imagine the lawsuit that would occur if a teacher shot a child? There would be a huge domino effect of repercussions.

if its one thing school districts fear more than anything, it is lawsuits.

[9erempiree]

Here are a few holsters to get, if you decide to carry. Remember, it's concealed. Nobody is going to try to grab it out from you.

These are my favorites.
http://www.defensereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/DC_Holsters_IWB_Concealment_Holster_5.jpg

http://n82tactical.com/n82store/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Holster-on-Nate.jpg


If you guys decide on a smaller gun for comfort, there are these pocket holsters. These won't print on your pants so it doesn't look like you got a gun in your pocket.
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/dressed-to-defend-left-both-pocket-holsters.jpg
http://www.concealthis.com/Articles/Holsters1/holsters8.jpg

[9erempiree]

If a teacher is armed, the student will definitely think twice about attacking the teacher.

Should we take guns away from cops? I mean a teen can clearly attack a police officer and take their gun.

Like I said, an armed authority figure like a teacher will get kids to respect them more as an authority figure.

[niko]

Could you imagine the lawsuit that would occur if a teacher shot a child? There would be a huge domino effect of repercussions.

if its one thing school districts fear more than anything, it is lawsuits.
It's NY. If the kid had a bazooka, the teacher pulled a gun and defused the situation, there would be a lawsuit.

NY when i grew up was different than it is now, but we had full fledged riots when i was in JHS and the teachers somehow managed to survive without firearms.

[bdreason]

The guy who beats up homeless people for fun carries a gun for self-protection?

I really hope you're just a troll and not a real person.

[9erempiree]

The guy who beats up homeless people for fun carries a gun for self-protection?

I really hope you're just a troll and not a real person.

No surprise there are a lot of idiots on this site and I normally don't resort to name calling.

Please read the thread and see where I beat up a homeless.

Reading comprehension.

:facepalm

[Rasheed1]

It's NY. If the kid had a bazooka, the teacher pulled a gun and defused the situation, there would be a lawsuit.

NY when i grew up was different than it is now, but we had full fledged riots when i was in JHS and the teachers somehow managed to survive without firearms.

I hear you...

I once grabbed a kid by his shirt for roaming the halls when he was supposed to be in detention.. He was tough talkin and wild belligerent..

He went home and told his momma I hit him, and the school principal panicked over the possibility of a lawsuit..

She told me to fix the situation or she would have to throw me under the bus to avoid any further problems.. The kid was the worst kid in the school and nobody disciplined the kid because they were afraid of what happened to me happening to them..

I called his mom and we met.. I was able to convince her that there was no problem, but I had no help from any of the school officials.. they were busy shaking in their boots over a lawsuit from her..

:facepalm

[Hazard]

Suppose someone follows you home for a gang initiation and blows your top off from behind as you're approaching your house, what good will a gun do you? Just admit it, you're gonna sit at home watching porn playing with your gun till you accidentally shoot your dick off. But it wouldn't matter cause you're overcompensating anyway. Would hate to be you.

At OP btw.

[SCdac]

Everybody owns guns in Texas. Men, women, tons of my college friends, patrons who come into the coffee shop I work at, my neighbors, and so on. Normal people in other words. It's so common, that the current vilification of guns/gun owners is just laughable.

Teachers on average probably have a higher IQ than the average cop, I think it's insulting to insinuate they're incapable or too incompetent to carry around a concealed weapon.

Some of y'all are so damn pussified and PC. I'd much rather law abiding citizens who're willing to take a class, pass a background check, fire off rounds at a shooting range, and put themselves further on the grid carry around a gun than the increasing militarization of our police combined with restrictive gun laws.

More cops at schools is not something I'm opposed to, but it's naive to think cops are anything more than regular people with a uniform and badge. Regardless of their experience with a weapon, which I don't deny they have, so many cops I've come across are dumb as ****, bloated with power, or not to be trusted for one reason or another.

[9erempiree]

Everybody owns guns in Texas. Men, women, tons of my college friends, patrons who come into the coffee shop I work at, my neighbors, and so on. Normal people in other words. It's so common, that the current vilification of guns/gun owners is just laughable.

Teachers on average probably have a higher IQ than the average cop, I think it's insulting to insinuate they're incapable or too incompetent to carry around a concealed weapon.

Some of y'all are so damn pussified and PC. I'd much rather law abiding citizens who're willing to take a class, pass a background check, fire off rounds at a shooting range, and put themselves further on the grid carry around a gun than the increasing militarization of our police combined with restrictive gun laws.

More cops at schools is not something I'm opposed to, but it's naive to think cops are anything more than regular people with a uniform and badge. Regardless of their experience with a weapon, which I don't deny they have, so many cops I've come across are dumb as ****, bloated with power, or not to be trusted for one reason or another.

Great post and thanks for participating. I agree with everything you said. Some of these people that are anti-guns don't know the criteria that you have to go through before obtaining a permit to carry. They go through extensive background checks. They act like getting a permit to carry is easy, well, in certain states but you have to go through that training.

Like you mentioned earlier, I was going to say it but someone mentioned that if a teacher and a kid got into a dispute, what's stopping the teacher from shooting the kid? More intelligence. Yes, we know cops shoot and ask questions later but a person cannot compare a dumb cop to a intelligent teacher/professor.

The funny thing is, he's a teacher himself and he's indirectly saying his profession is dumb as law enforcement. He should have known better than that.

[niko]

You have to be ten degrees of stupid to think that OP has or will have a gun. This is internet bullshit, he's just trolling and he found a topic he can be totally obtuse about and get replies. Someone who just wanted to get a gun wouldn't post endlesly on the net about it.

[COnDEMnED]

I get the feeling many people in this topic suspect the teacher would be walking around the classroom, pointing her stick at the chalkboard, reading out of her textbook, packing with a shoulder strap gun holster.....

I introduce the fingerprint quick access gun safe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILVjeNGnljU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl2-ccCEGC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dalQahq-990

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrfsvyI-luQ

One can't but help feel some individuals in here are somewhat slightly undereducated when it comes to everyday, modern gun safety. A teacher isn't going to be charging a group of fighting students with a colt .45 on her hip, a mac 10 strapped to her thigh, a .357 snub nose in her waste band and a bazooka hanging off her left shoulder. The gun would be locked in a finger print sensitive lock box, collecting dust under (or in) her teachers desk in the classroom. It will be tightly secured with a cable, as shown in the first video.

[9erempiree]

I wanted to make an OFFICIAL gun thread but this can be it.

[ThePhantomCreep]

More guns in law abiding citizens hands brings down crime.

The percentage of households with a firearm was higher during Reagan's America. The crime rates were horrible.

[9erempiree]

Has anyone on here have an AR15 build?

[9erempiree]

God I love this combo.

AR with the HK USP that I spoke of and mentioned.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s28/drtp7/gogreen.jpg

[senelcoolidge]

I'm thinking about buying a firearm. If some idiot decides to break into my home or tries to hurt my loves ones I will blow their head off. Plus if I'm out and someone commits a crime than I can stop them.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why should I buy a gun and get a permit?

According to gun nuts on here, they're so easy to get that even if they were illegal I could walk down the street and buy one.


LOL...oh geez. You don't need a permit to buy a weapon. You can buy one anywhere and at any time you want.

[NumberSix]

LOL...oh geez. You don't need a permit to buy a weapon. You can buy one anywhere and at any time you want.
I swear, people don't understand what a right is. Would this same guy also think he needs a free speech permit or a prayer permit?

[Patrick Chewing]

I swear, people don't understand what a right is. Would this same guy also think he needs a free speech permit or a prayer permit?


It's like they're already living in a police state :oldlol:

[ThePhantomCreep]

I swear, people don't understand what a right is. Would this same guy also think he needs a free speech permit or a prayer permit?

What well-regulated militia are you in, Skippy?

[tomtucker]

I plan to mount my gun on the back of my toyota truck
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http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1352771583_6ph0j5z.gif
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http://www.julienpoker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Rambo4-MachineGunrampage.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

God damn, how retarded are you? I was blatantly talking about a gun.


I don't think you know what you're talking about. What about a gun?

Are you under the assumption that you need some kind of permit to purchase a gun??

[BigNBAfan]

Has anyone on here have an AR15 build?

I've build many AR15s...

[Patrick Chewing]

Bring the conversation over here boys: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387007


Even you, Professor.

[NumberSix]

What well-regulated militia are you in, Skippy?
District of Columbia v. Heller

The Supreme Court held:[44]

(1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2

[Patrick Chewing]

It's truly astounding that you're this out of the loop.


LOL. Show me where you need a permit. I'll wait.

[ballup]

LOL. Show me where you need a permit. I'll wait.
4 states it appears (https://www.google.com/search?q=states+require+gun+permit)

[LikeABosh]

.45s are for guys with small *****

[Patrick Chewing]

4 states it appears (https://www.google.com/search?q=states+require+gun+permit)


That's it? CA and MA being two of them. Go figure.

[Lebron23]

OP is so fat and ugly. I hope you buy a gun, and shoot your dick so that an imbecile like you won't procreate.

[lil jahlil]

OP is the last person who should have a gun. He is unstable. He'd probably shoot somebody for not being a Kobe fan or for being Muslim.