Eagles WR: "I will fight every n***** here"

[chosen_one6]

Eagle's WR Riley Cooper at a country concert:

http://youtu.be/-dEQxO8Yuas

http://deadspin.com/eagles-wr-riley-cooper-at-concert-i-will-fight-every-979470075?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

:facepalm :roll:

[Jameerthefear]

damnit he used to play for my gators :banghead: :rant

[Just2McFly]

I bet he wouldn't have said that in the Locker Room tho

[bmulls]

That's gonna be real awkward in the locker room after all his teammates see it

[Rasheed1]

:biggums:


at a country concert? who was he referring to? He had the hard R at the end, but I dont know if there was any black people there :oldlol: He might have been referring to white guys...

either way, bad decision..

[Jailblazers7]

The way he said it makes it way worse too. He sounded super racist lol.

[Jameerthefear]

Eagles have two black qbs too. Ouch

[Jameerthefear]

The way he said it makes it way worse too. He sounded super racist lol.
Yeah he sounded like some of the people where I live.

[-p.tiddy-]

only in Texas...


BUT IT'S NOT IN TEXAS, AND IT'S NOT A COWBOYS PLAYER...IT'S A PLAYER FOR THE FILTHADELPHIA EAGLES!!!

:banana: :banana: :banana:



it's like a small gift from God...for God's team, the Dallas Cowboys

[chosen_one6]

That's gonna be real awkward in the locker room after all his teammates see it

Just wait until he runs slants across the field against other teams.

[DuMa]

Just wait when he has the ball in the open field and his black teammates mistakenly forget to pick up the blind side tackler

[TheMan]

Wierd how if he said niggah, he could say he meant anybody, but when it ends in "er", it's meant as a racist word.

Expect opposing LB's and Safeties to nail him extra hard:lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Hope this ****** gets mollywhopped on the gridiron. :oldlol:

[bagelred]

Im not defending this guy at all.....i couldn't care less....but this country is so obsessed with outing every incident of possible white racism. Any one phrase, joke, comment, of politically incorrect language towards black people and your life/career are over....


Meanwhile, the irony is, black people are easily the most racist and unsympathetic group of any group of people. :oldlol: They'll throw the word "cracka" out on the drop of a hat. I don't believe they care for other groups either....korean, jewish, gays, etc....but that always gets swept under rug....you know, slavery, civil rights and all.

But that WHITE MAN SAID SOMETHING WRONG!!! HUGE HEADLINES!!!!



But anywho....i'm just musing.....that redneck probably deserves what's coming to him anyway.....:oldlol:



I apologize for calling him a redneck. Wrong and insensitive. :no:

[SilkkTheShocker]

brb buying a Riley Cooper jersey

[Rasheed1]

in b4 someone tries to turn it back on blac.... oh wait.. nvm...

[Jameerthefear]

Im not defending this guy at all.....i couldn't care less....but this country is so obsessed with outing every incident of possible white racism. Any one phrase, joke, comment, of politically incorrect language towards black people and your life/career are over....


Meanwhile, the irony is, black people are easily the most racist and unsympathetic group of any group of people. :oldlol: They'll throw the word "cracka" out on the drop of a hat. I don't believe they care for other groups either....korean, jewish, gays, etc....but that always gets swept under rug....you know, slavery, civil rights and all.

But that WHITE MAN SAID SOMETHING WRONG!!! HUGE HEADLINES!!!!



But anywho....i'm just musing.....that redneck probably deserves what's coming to him anyway.....:oldlol:



I apologize for calling him a redneck. Wrong and insensitive. :no:
Context man. N*gger is a lot more offensive then cracker. Would most white people be upset if someone called them a cracker? No...

[bagelred]

Context man. N*gger is a lot more offensive then cracker. Would most white people be upset if someone called them a cracker? No...

Kind of a chicken and egg, thing. N-gger is more offensive because black people TAKE more offense to it.....understand?

I feel black people are easily the most sensitive group...of ANY group in America....to any slights, disrespects, offensive language...whatever. You can pretty much get away of making fun of any group you want except for black people....

[bmulls]

They're talking about it on PTI right now. They are both saying he should be suspended.

Am I wrong in thinking what he said on his own in his free time off the field shouldn't impact his job in the NFL?

[chosen_one6]

Kind of a chicken and egg, thing. N-gger is more offensive because black people TAKE more offense to it.....understand?

I feel black people are easily the most sensitive group...of ANY group in America....to any slights, disrespects, offensive language...whatever. You can pretty much get away of making fun of any group you want except for black people....

And do you have any idea why that is?

[bagelred]

They're talking about it on PTI right now. They are both saying he should be suspended.

Am I wrong in thinking what he said on his own in his free time off the field shouldn't impact his job in the NFL?

Suspension would be ridiculous. It wasn't an NFL interview, or a post on twitter, he was hanging out at a concert and someone recorded his conversation. So now all private conversations are subject to discipline?

[ace23]

Meanwhile, the irony is, black people are easily the most racist and unsympathetic group of any group of people.
That's the irony alright.

[Jameerthefear]

Kind of a chicken and egg, thing. N-gger is more offensive because black people TAKE more offense to it.....understand?

I feel black people are easily the most sensitive group...of ANY group in America....to any slights, disrespects, offensive language...whatever. You can pretty much get away of making fun of any group you want except for black people....
It's more offensive because of the context of the word. Black people take it to be more offensive because they know the history of the word. Cracker is a word that referred to the "crack" of the whip of a slave master I believe. I think the sensitivity is mostly in the U.S.

[Rasheed1]

funny how a white person says the N word and it prompts baglered to go on a rant about how racist black people are :oldlol:

Somehow its black people's fault Riley Cooper said that sh*t..

[Goldrush25]

Kind of a chicken and egg, thing. N-gger is more offensive because black people TAKE more offense to it.....understand?

I feel black people are easily the most sensitive group...of ANY group in America....to any slights, disrespects, offensive language...whatever. You can pretty much get away of making fun of any group you want except for black people....

So saying the n-word is making fun of black people?

[bagelred]

And do you have any idea why that is?

So rise above it. When a white man says, n-gger say "who give a shit" and move on. Make your lives better. Go to school and get better jobs. Be better parents. Stop having teenage pregnancies. Stop having violent crime in your communities. Etc etc etc.

Yet, black people and our American society in general are so obsessed with slights against Black America. It's like, enough already. Every racist phrase isn't the end of the world. It's not 1960, it's 2013. No one cares anymore. Look at every other group in America. They ignore it and make their lives better.

As a Jew, I can tell you, Jews don't really care when someone is "outed" as an Anti-Semite. It makes for good conversation, or just a "that guys an idiot", and that's about it. No media frenzy, no Jewish groups holding rallies, no million Jew marches....just shrug your shoulders, and make your own lives better......


Little bit of a rant....I'm tired. :oldlol: Later.....

[SilkkTheShocker]

So saying the n-word is making fun of black people?
He is just trolling.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Context man. N*gger is a lot more offensive then cracker. Would most white people be upset if someone called them a cracker? No...


HATE this logic.


So because one group is more insecure, we must exempt them from the expectation of a certain standard of behavior?

That's what I hate about political correctness inequality. It basically implies inferiority amongst various groups. Guilty white libtards assign every minority group an amount of "leeway" based on how insecure/inferior these liberals believe those groups SHOULD feel about themselves. By basically holding white american christian males to a standard of "zero percent leniency" they are essentially saying "We know, we know... YOU DA BESS. Just try not to be so obvious about it."


I mean that's the thing. Do we want EQUALITY or do we want special treatment? Because usually people who "fight for equality" are really fighting for special treatment based on nothing other than hypersensitivity to what might hurt someones feelings. Grow up already f@ggots. Enforce the same standards for everyone.

Would I say what Riley Cooper said? No.
Do I care what Riley Cooper said? No.
Would I say what Ice Cube says about white people all the time? No.
Do I still listen to Ice Cube's music because IDGAF? Yes.


People need to be more productive than to whine and cry about words and shit. If words are your biggest fear, check your ****ing vag1na. It's got major sand in it.

[ace23]

Every racist phrase isn't the end of the world. It's not 1960, it's 2013. No one cares anymore. Look at every other group in America. They ignore it and make their lives better.
Nope

[OldSkoolball#52]

And do you have any idea why that is?


Because of events rooted in the PAST.

Christians were once fed to lions brah. That doesn't get them a pass to get people fired, suspended, beaten down, etc. for making a joke about Christians or even flat out disparaging them.

Italians and the Irish have suffered persecution. Jews, gays, hell Catholics are one of the top targets of the Ku Klux Klan.

But no, only blacks can throw major hissy fits, simply because they were once SOLD BY OTHER BLACKS to white people during the era of slavery etc. That means we must all walk on egg shells in our own country, in our own conversations, and if we should say something politically incorrect we must grovel and apologize and beg for forgiveness. Nobody else has to, and it is not required if you offend any other group. But this PC culture looks at black people as "special" (as in the short bus way) and so if we accidentally offend their sensitive sensibilities, we must kiss it and make it better. How much longer do we have to put up with this??


I don't blame black people. Hey, you wanna use the guilt these white liberal f@ggots have as leverage? Power to you, I'd do the same. I blame the loser white kids who sit on their computer and wanna play Martin Luther King to satisfy their own personal delusion of having moral superiority over "rednecks"

[Rasheed1]

People are whining while they tell other people to "grow up"
:oldlol:

[chosen_one6]

So rise above it. When a white man says, n-gger say "who give a shit" and move on. Make your lives better. Go to school and get better jobs. Be better parents. Stop having teenage pregnancies. Stop having violent crime in your communities. Etc etc etc.

Yet, black people and our American society in general are so obsessed with slights against Black America. It's like, enough already. Every racist phrase isn't the end of the world. It's not 1960, it's 2013. No one cares anymore. Look at every other group in America. They ignore it and make their lives better.

As a Jew, I can tell you, Jews don't really care when someone is "outed" as an Anti-Semite. It makes for good conversation, or just a "that guys an idiot", and that's about it. No media frenzy, no Jewish groups holding rallies, no million Jew marches....just shrug your shoulders, and make your own lives better......


Little bit of a rant....I'm tired. :oldlol: Later.....

A lot of people care actually. A lot of people are still alive from the racist times that happened before 1965. A lot of those people have children and grand children. :facepalm

[Real Men Wear Green]

1: Was probably drunk.

2: Lifetime in a locker room. He probably hears that word all day long and subconsciously at least I bet it's no longer a big deal to him. He wasn't referring to black people here. It wasn't a respectful way to use the word (there's no such thing) but does he hate all blacks? I'm not sure about that. He does have to work with them all day as a football player.

Stupid thing to say of course but idiots on message boards like this one say it all the time behind the anonymity of the internet. His mistake was being videotaped.

[OldSkoolball#52]

A lot of people care actually. A lot of people are still alive from the racist times that happened before 1965. A lot of those people have children and grand children. :facepalm


Those people should be THRILLED TO DEATH that the worst experience of racism most of them will endure TODAY is a viral video of Riley Cooper saying "I'll fight any ****** over that fence!"


Personally, I hate discrimination. Good people come from all races. But what I'm sick of is the idea that words are soooo offensive. Only to high schoolers and pu$$ies. Real talk. You got a life to live, stop crying about stuff. There was a "Trayvon march" near me the other day, and that's the sort of stuff that pisses me off. Black people are trying to take advantage of the guilt card and make big deals out of things that had nothign to do with racism. In fact, if that's what was on the other side of this fence Cooper was talking about, if it was some sort of pathetic and ridiculous "trayvon march" I would have absolutely no problem with him saying "I'll fight every one of those ******s." Because they'd be the ones instigating the racial BS first. I'm not gonna only blame the white guy simply because he's white.

[TheMan]

So rise above it. When a white man says, n-gger say "who give a shit" and move on. Make your lives better. Go to school and get better jobs. Be better parents. Stop having teenage pregnancies. Stop having violent crime in your communities. Etc etc etc.

Yet, black people and our American society in general are so obsessed with slights against Black America. It's like, enough already. Every racist phrase isn't the end of the world. It's not 1960, it's 2013. No one cares anymore. Look at every other group in America. They ignore it and make their lives better.

As a Jew, I can tell you, Jews don't really care when someone is "outed" as an Anti-Semite. It makes for good conversation, or just a "that guys an idiot", and that's about it. No media frenzy, no Jewish groups holding rallies, no million Jew marches....just shrug your shoulders, and make your own lives better......


Little bit of a rant....I'm tired. :oldlol: Later.....
OMG, this is some fantasy crap. If someone even hints that what Isreal is doing in the occupied territories against Palestinians is wrong, they get called out as anti-Semites by the Ant-Defamation League :facepalm
Look at what they did to Helen Thomas for example.:rolleyes:

[longtime lurker]

Im not defending this guy at all.....i couldn't care less....but this country is so obsessed with outing every incident of possible white racism. Any one phrase, joke, comment, of politically incorrect language towards black people and your life/career are over....


Meanwhile, the irony is, black people are easily the most racist and unsympathetic group of any group of people. :oldlol: They'll throw the word "cracka" out on the drop of a hat. I don't believe they care for other groups either....korean, jewish, gays, etc....but that always gets swept under rug....you know, slavery, civil rights and all.

But that WHITE MAN SAID SOMETHING WRONG!!! HUGE HEADLINES!!!!



But anywho....i'm just musing.....that redneck probably deserves what's coming to him anyway.....:oldlol:



I apologize for calling him a redneck. Wrong and insensitive. :no:

Someone says a racist remark, blames black people for being black.... it's almost like blaming a shooting victim for getting killed....

oh wait..

[Goldrush25]

Those people should be THRILLED TO DEATH that the worst experience of racism most of them will endure TODAY is a viral video of Riley Cooper saying "I'll fight any ****** over that fence!"


Personally, I hate discrimination. Good people come from all races. But what I'm sick of is the idea that words are soooo offensive. Only to high schoolers and pu$$ies. Real talk. You got a life to live, stop crying about stuff. There was a "Trayvon march" near me the other day, and that's the sort of stuff that pisses me off. Black people are trying to take advantage of the guilt card and make big deals out of things that had nothign to do with racism. In fact, if that's what was on the other side of this fence Cooper was talking about, if it was some sort of pathetic and ridiculous "trayvon march" I would have absolutely no problem with him saying "I'll fight every one of those ******s." Because they'd be the ones instigating the racial BS first. I'm not gonna only blame the white guy simply because he's white.

So you want to tell people how they should feel about words you know nothing about?

[Bucket_Nakedz]

gobb, what are your foughts?

[chosen_one6]

Those people should be THRILLED TO DEATH that the worst experience of racism most of them will endure TODAY is a viral video of Riley Cooper saying "I'll fight any ****** over that fence!"


Personally, I hate discrimination. Good people come from all races. But what I'm sick of is the idea that words are soooo offensive. Only to high schoolers and pu$$ies. Real talk. You got a life to live, stop crying about stuff. There was a "Trayvon march" near me the other day, and that's the sort of stuff that pisses me off. Black people are trying to take advantage of the guilt card and make big deals out of things that had nothign to do with racism. In fact, if that's what was on the other side of this fence Cooper was talking about, if it was some sort of pathetic and ridiculous "trayvon march" I would have absolutely no problem with him saying "I'll fight every one of those ******s." Because they'd be the ones instigating the racial BS first. I'm not gonna only blame the white guy simply because he's white.

So people should just "get over" everything that happened before 1965? Obviously, that's how anyone that isn't a person of color is going to feel because suddenly they feel like they're the oppressed ones in this society :facepalm . Newsflash: y'all still control the majority of the wealth in this country BECAUSE of what you did to oppress colored people before 1965. However, I wouldn't expect you or any other white person to understand because you don't see or hear about any of the things that go on DAILY in our society except for what's portrayed in media.

[Rasheed1]

OMG, this is some fantasy crap. If someone even hints that what Isreal is doing in the occupied territories against Palestinians is wrong, they get called out as anti-Semites by the Ant-Defamation League :facepalm
Look at what they did to Helen Thomas for example.:rolleyes:


Yeah using Jewish people is a bad example... Anybody ever seen Steve (is that his name?) go bonkers on this site? :lol

[Bucket_Nakedz]

only in Texas...


BUT IT'S NOT IN TEXAS, AND IT'S NOT A COWBOYS PLAYER...IT'S A PLAYER FOR THE FILTHADELPHIA EAGLES!!!

:banana: :banana: :banana:



it's like a small gift from God...for God's team, the Dallas Cowboys
lol

[nathanjizzle]

he should have said ninja instead :facepalm

[sunsfan1357]

Apparently it was at a Kenny Chesney concert. A black security guard wouldn't let him backstage and the end result is the video.

Just clarifying for someone earlier in the thread that said they weren't sure who he was speaking to :lol

[red1]

Not really a big deal IMO. The guy was obviously a fool for that but he seems legit remorseful and his teammates will roast him for eternity. He plays in the nfl for f*cks sakes

[Goldrush25]

Not really a big deal IMO. The guy was obviously a fool for that but he seems legit remorseful and his teammates will roast him for eternity. He plays in the nfl for f*cks sakes

Yeah, he's sorry he got caught. I'd respect him more if he didn't apologize and said something to the effect of "Look, I use that word all the time with my teammates. I didn't mean to offend anyone."

I'm from Louisiana, been called the n-word to my face and been hearing it since I can remember. I have more respect for racists that wear it on their sleeve and broadcast their beliefs far more than the ones that hide it. Do I think he's a KKK member? No but that word doesn't just accidentally come out of your mouth. He says he's embarrassed. Why would he be embarrassed if he were using it like he uses it with his teammates?

[OldSkoolball#52]

Holy crap, never seen this dude without a helmet. He's White Kobe!

[PistonsFan#21]

Meanwhile, the irony is, black people are easily the most racist and unsympathetic group of any group of people.




you are just a troll or do you honestly fail to see the racism in your own post?

i always find it funny how they can be so many racist people watching a sport where 90% of the players are black.

[dude77]

he was just drunk and acting out .. people do that shit all the time we just don't hear about it because it's not a professional athlete being filmed .. there are plenty of blacks who will lash out like this when fkd up and drunk and say some stupid shit about 'whitey' .. no big deal

[Goldrush25]

you are just a troll or do you honestly fail to see the racism in your own post?

i always find it funny how they can be so many racist people watching a sport where 90% of the players are black.

I'm not surprised. There are tons of racist LSU football fans. They love their football team and the entertainment they provide for them. Doesn't mean they have to think highly of the athletes that provide that entertainment. It's like "You're fine as long as you're scoring touchdowns, but as soon as you try to date my daughter, you're a n*****."

Same with people saying "How can Riley Cooper be racist, he plays with mostly black people." And? I worked alongside racist people before. I had a platoon sergeant and company commander in the Army that were racist. They were the coward types though, only talked about black people when there weren't any around. I don't see why working alongside black people excludes someone from being racist.

[Im so nba'd out]

im going to laugh when a safety blindsides that cracka azz cracker

[OldSkoolball#52]

you are just a troll or do you honestly fail to see the racism in your own post?

i always find it funny how they can be so many racist people watching a sport where 90% of the players are black.


Thats bc most people who watch nfl/nba dont have any problem, in a vacuum, with strangers who are a different race. They dont judge them by their slin color just for standing there.

But when a specific black guy charges the stands, or shoots someone at a nightclub, or beats his pregnant gf, or does something black people are FAR more prone to doing, then yes, many sports fans will say ":facepalm black people"


The problem is that because we are in an era where "feelings matter most" words and generalizatons, which are ultimately meaningless, are a much BIGGER DEAL than murder, gangs, drug use, teen pregnancy, child neglect, illiteracy and all the other ways in which the black community at large contributes to its OWN downfall.

Only when a white person says a WORD do we have a news story.

Let me attempt to quantify Riley Coopers personal feelings abot race as a factor in the state of the black community:

1/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000000


And yet his comments are what people will discuss for the next week. Not murder, gangs, drug abuse, child neglect, pregnant teens, absentee fathers, illiteracy.....

Riley Cooper saying ****** into a cell phone camera at a kenny chesney concert.

Thats whats holding the brothas down.

[OldSkoolball#52]

It's like "You're fine as long as you're scoring touchdowns, but as soon as you try to date my daughter, you're a n*****."

.

You have a point. Kobe Bryant is estranged from his parents because he chose not to marry a black woman.


Two parents who basically disowned their son for years because of the skin color on the woman he chose as his wife.

You wanna go ahead and call Joe Jellybean Bryant a racist?

Somethin tells me you think "thats different" than your example with some imaginary white hillbilly.

#doublestandard

[L.Kizzle]

That's a lot of nighas he wanna fight.

[chosen_one6]

Riley's colleague, WR Jason Avant said: "Some guys accepted (the apology) right away. For some it may take days, weeks, or months"

[Graviton]

Riley's colleague, WR Jason Avant said: "Some guys accepted (the apology) right away. For some it may take days, weeks, or months, years, decades, centuries"
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[-p.tiddy-]

The Eagles JUST lost WR Jeremy Maclin for the year too due to a freak injury in practice a couple days ago.

He should get suspended. ..



Eagles losing WRs left and right.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Whats getting lost in all this is how questionable it is that he was so desperate to get backstage at a dudes concert..

[chosen_one6]

Michael Vick also called a team meeting with Riley and the team and they had an open dialogue for 5 minutes.

Oh if I could have been a fly on the wall for that :eek:

[PistonsFan#21]

Thats bc most people who watch nfl/nba dont have any problem, in a vacuum, with strangers who are a different race. They dont judge them by their slin color just for standing there.

But when a specific black guy charges the stands, or shoots someone at a nightclub, or beats his pregnant gf, or does something black people are FAR more prone to doing, then yes, many sports fans will say ":facepalm black people"



And that is exactly whats wrong here. Why should the whole black race be held accountable for the bad actions of some individuals?

Racist people like to judge black people based on the criminals, gangbangers and the poor people living in the ghetto as if thats a good representation of the average black person.

[Goldrush25]

You have a point. Kobe Bryant is estranged from his parents because he chose not to marry a black woman.


Two parents who basically disowned their son for years because of the skin color on the woman he chose as his wife.

You wanna go ahead and call Joe Jellybean Bryant a racist?

Somethin tells me you think "thats different" than your example with some imaginary white hillbilly.

#doublestandard

It's the same. Racists are racists. Just because you can find a black racist doesn't make the white racist any more acceptable.

[iggy>]

Kind of a chicken and egg, thing. N-gger is more offensive because black people TAKE more offense to it.....understand?

I feel black people are easily the most sensitive group...of ANY group in America....to any slights, disrespects, offensive language...whatever. You can pretty much get away of making fun of any group you want except for black people....
I totally agree.

[ILLsmak]

lol I don't think black people are more prone to doing anything. I do think that if you are in a bad situation, you will be involved with more criminal behavior, but look at trailer parks. There are plenty of white people who do the same stupid shit you say "lol black people."

But yea... unfort, you can usually tell, by a crime who did it (not race but the type of person.)

-Smak

[Goldrush25]

Riley's colleague, WR Jason Avant said: "Some guys accepted (the apology) right away. For some it may take days, weeks, or months"

Having said everything that I've said about this matter, money is money. If I were his teammates I'd just let it go and play football. Whether they like it or not, they will need Cooper this season and he's one piece of the puzzle that can help everyone else make more money. Let's just keep it on a business level.

[bagelred]

you are just a troll or do you honestly fail to see the racism in your own post?

i always find it funny how they can be so many racist people watching a sport where 90% of the players are black.

Not racism. I base my beliefs on my own personal experiences and information....

This is just one example:


http://archive.adl.org/antisemitism_survey/survey_iii.asp

African-Americans continue to be significantly more likely than white Americans to hold anti-Jewish beliefs. As with whites, education level is the most important factor affecting the attitudes of blacks toward Jews.

Confirming the three previous studies, black Americans remain considerably more likely than white Americans to hold anti-Semitic views . In the 1998 survey, blacks (34%) are nearly four times as likely as whites (9%) to fall into the most anti-Semitic category.

The overall level of anti-Semitism among African-Americans (34%) compares to 37% in 1992. This very slight decline in acceptance of anti-Jewish stereotypes has been significantly slower among blacks than among whites, expanding the racial gap in attitudes toward Jews in 1998.

This study is kinda old but.....

Just an example....but that's what I'm saying. I bet if you look at "Anti-Gay" beliefs, blacks would be highest among them as well.....

[Rasheed1]

I think his apologies have been sincere and he just got too drunk and let his "real" self slip a bit.. You dont talk like that even when you are drunk if that isnt who you are.. He has taken all the criticism like a man so far.. props to him for that

But if I was a teammate or an opponent, I would definitely remember it and put a little extra weight into him when I hit him.. :confusedshrug:

It will be interesting to see how the things develop for him

[OldSkoolball#52]

Racist people like to judge black people based on the criminals, gangbangers and the poor people living in the ghetto as if thats a good representation of the average black person.


Of course in an ideal world people wouldnt generalize like that. But this is the real world and peoples brains are evolved to generalize. EVERYONE does it, hundreds or thousands of times a week probably.

If Trayshawn Martin were dressed in Urkel suspenders and glasses, and was skipping like a teletubbie, he probably wouldnt have been profiled. Black folks act like the hoody is some exclusively black clothing article. ALL people look a bit more questionable in hoodies than other items of clothing, BECAUSE criminals are known to wear them to help conceal identity.


If every muslim terrorist is seen wearin a towel on his head, and YOU do it too... Dont go wagging your finger at others when they judge you. Smarten up and realize who your choices affiliate you with.

Believe me, I get the reason for frustration. I know ur a chill dude, dont wanna be lumped in with others you have no ties to based just on skin color. My loint is tho generalizations are part of life. The choices people have is to whine about the fairness of it, which is futile, or try to change the perception of whatever it is. If blacks have a problem with how theyre perceived, they oughtta examine how rampant the BASIS of those perceptions is, and help to change them. Just playing the poltically correct game not only doesnt solve the problem of stereotypes, it doesnt solve the actual PROBLEMS of murder, gangs, teen pregnancy etc

[OldSkoolball#52]

I think his apologies have been sincere and he just got too drunk and let his "real" self slip a bit.. You dont talk like that even when you are drunk if that isnt who you are..


Dude sometimes you just need a place filler word.

He was pissed at a security guard. Thats who he was supposedly really referring to. What if he had said "fat ass"? Or "four eyes" or basically any characterstic he chose to describe someone he knew nothing else about?

This dude could very easily be a "live and let live" type dude with no problems with other races, but when he was drunk and pissed off at someone he knew nothing about other than skin color, thats just how he chose to be insulting. Instead of fatass or f@ggot or big nose he just said ****** cause he was pissed off at a dude who happened to be black.


I mean honestly, bagelred was right, these days it is ONLY a crime to insult black people and nobody else

[Jameerthefear]

Dude sometimes you just need a place filler word.

He was pissed at a security guard. Thats who he was supposedly really referring to. What if he had said "fat ass"? Or "four eyes" or basically any characterstic he chose to describe someone he knew nothing else about?

This dude could very easily be a "live and let live" type dude with no problems with other races, but when he was drunk and pissed off at someone he knew nothing about other than skin color, thats just how he chose to be insulting. Instead of fatass or f@ggot or big nose he just said ****** cause he was pissed off at a dude who happened to be black.


I mean honestly, bagelred was right, these days it is ONLY a crime to insult black people and nobody else
...
so he's not racist, he just speaks like one? okay.

[Goldrush25]

Dude sometimes you just need a place filler word.

He was pissed at a security guard. Thats who he was supposedly really referring to. What if he had said "fat ass"? Or "four eyes" or basically any characterstic he chose to describe someone he knew nothing else about?

This dude could very easily be a "live and let live" type dude with no problems with other races, but when he was drunk and pissed off at someone he knew nothing about other than skin color, thats just how he chose to be insulting. Instead of fatass or f@ggot or big nose he just said ****** cause he was pissed off at a dude who happened to be black.


I mean honestly, bagelred was right, these days it is ONLY a crime to insult black people and nobody else

You know, there are white people out there that would never say the n-word no matter how drunk they get.

And you see what you want to see. If you are of another race and choose not to be offended by a racial slur towards your race, well that's your preference. But you're not in any place to tell black people how they should feel about racial slurs towards them.

And if it was just a "place filler" word, he should just man up and say that's what it was. Don't wear a dress and put up some bogus apology about how you're "embarrassed." I don't see why you and a couple of others are coming to his defense when he's not even coming to his own defense.

[Heavincent]

The Eagles have accepted their scumbag dog killer QB, so this shouldn't be much of an issue.

[Budadiiii]

Shout out to Herm Edwards. He summed it up very well.

[Rasheed1]

Dude sometimes you just need a place filler word.

He was pissed at a security guard. Thats who he was supposedly really referring to. What if he had said "fat ass"? Or "four eyes" or basically any characterstic he chose to describe someone he knew nothing else about?

This dude could very easily be a "live and let live" type dude with no problems with other races, but when he was drunk and pissed off at someone he knew nothing about other than skin color, thats just how he chose to be insulting. Instead of fatass or f@ggot or big nose he just said ****** cause he was pissed off at a dude who happened to be black.


I mean honestly, bagelred was right, these days it is ONLY a crime to insult black people and nobody else

baglered is not right ... he's an idiot .. ... White guy uses a racial slur and he goes on a rant about how black people are at fault...

I dont think Riley is a racist.. I dont know him personally though..

Its not a crime, but he needs to just man up and accept the consequences (like he has been doing).. No whining (like some of the posters on this board) about how blacks get to say it and how come he cant say it too.. :facepalm

I hear alot about personal responsibility from posters on this board and he just needs to take the heat, move on and dont let it happen again..

There alot of things I cant say, but I dont go around whining about why not.. I just dont say them..

I know alot of Italians. some call each other dagos as a personal thing.. I would never say it and whine about not being able to say it.. It would be an insult to them and I understand that..

just dont say it unless you know you are in a situation where it is OK to say..

its that simple

[PJR]

Bagelred is a certified moron.

[PistonsFan#21]

Not racism. I base my beliefs on my own personal experiences and information....

Just an example....but that's what I'm saying. I bet if you look at "Anti-Gay" beliefs, blacks would be highest among them as well.....

rac

[longtime lurker]

I mean honestly, bagelred was right, these days it is ONLY a crime to insult black people and nobody else

Oh I bet you long for the days of when you could get away with calling someone a ****** without hiding behind a computer.

[OldSkoolball#52]

baglered is not right ... he's an idiot .. ... White guy uses a racial slur and he goes on a rant about how black people are at fault...

I dont think Riley is a racist.. I dont know him personally though..

Its not a crime, but he needs to just man up and accept the consequences (like he has been doing).. No whining (like some of the posters on this board) about how blacks get to say it and how come he cant say it too.. :facepalm

I hear alot about personal responsibility from posters on this board and he just needs to take the heat, move on and dont let it happen again..

There alot of things I cant say, but I dont go around whining about why not.. I just dont say them..

I know alot of Italians. some call each other dagos as a personal thing.. I would never say it and whine about not being able to say it.. It would be an insult to them and I understand that..

just dont say it unless you know you are in a situation where it is OK to say..

its that simple


I hear ya and Im not trying to be a prick to you or anyone in this thread, I think its just carried over Trayshron Martin fatigue. The rhetoric from many in the black community regarding that whole ordeal has been very agitating. They basically INJECTED race into a story where it didnt really exist, in order to simply use it as a convenient platform to blow off some general saltiness. In other words they were just making shit up in order to complain. And when you read the paper, watch the news, walk through downtown etc and see stories of violence and murder etc etc every damn day, almost always being caused by black folks, and then THEYRE complaining? Its like dude you live in America in 2013. If you cant do any better than this, maybe its time for a divorce. I mean point blank, black people as a demographic (not all ofthem individually of course) cause a LOT of problems in America. So to hear them complain about stuff today, in ultra PC 2013? Its just too much. And if thy think "the man" is holdin em down, then go back to Africa! Seriously! If you blame the man, then dont be here. Otherwise, take advantage of whats being offered today in 2013, and shut up unless you have a real legitimate beef about discrimination. And trayvron martin or riley coopers potty mouth are not it.

[Dictator]

Ever since the the Trayvon Martin case 50% of ISH threads have turned into racial wars.

How many times do you hear famous black people saying "I'm gonna fight every cracker here!".

There's no bias, once you get into these jobs you have an image to promote and maintain.



Edit: lol at the post above. :coleman:

[ace23]

Ever since the the Trayvon Martin case 50% of ISH threads have turned into racial wars.
Thank you. Let's move on, fellas.

[Jameerthefear]

I hear ya and Im not trying to be a prick to you or anyone in this thread, I think its just carried over Trayshron Martin fatigue. The rhetoric from many in the black community regarding that whole ordeal has been very agitating. They basically INJECTED race into a story where it didnt really exist, in order to simply use it as a convenient platform to blow off some general saltiness. In other words they were just making shit up in order to complain. And when you read the paper, watch the news, walk through downtown etc and see stories of violence and murder etc etc every damn day, almost always being caused by black folks, and then THEYRE complaining? Its like dude you live in America in 2013. If you cant do any better than this, maybe its time for a divorce. I mean point blank, black people as a demographic (not all ofthem individually of course) cause a LOT of problems in America. So to hear them complain about stuff today, in ultra PC 2013? Its just too much. And if thy think "the man" is holdin em down, then go back to Africa! Seriously! If you blame the man, then dont be here. Otherwise, take advantage of whats being offered today in 2013, and shut up unless you have a real legitimate beef about discrimination. And trayvron martin or riley coopers potty mouth are not it.
really...?

[OldSkoolball#52]

Ever since the the Trayvon Martin case 50% of ISH threads have turned into racial wars.

How many times do you hear famous black people saying "I'm gonna fight every cracker here!".

There's no bias, once you get into these jobs you have an image to promote and maintain.



Edit: lol at the post above. :coleman:


I agree it was a stupid thing to say. You are that guy, have that dream job, theres literally one ****ing word you cant say, and you look INTO THE CAMERA AND SAY IT??? Lmfao. Hilariously stupid.

My point is that objectively its not a big deal that a person did this. I mean who ****ing cares, its a word, he was at a concert, not up at a podium in front of a congregation. But some black folks frankly live for these momets so they can say "Aha! THIS is why our community is in shambles!" and then feel some piece of satisfaction watching Cooper or Kramer or whoever it is squirm.

Its just annoying to have to go through this every week now. Especially with cameras and recordings everywhere... We really gonna start makin news stories everytime someone says n1gger in todays world where all things are recorded??? We're in for a long long headache if thats the case folks...

[longtime lurker]

Ever since the the Trayvon Martin case 50% of ISH threads have turned into racial wars.

How many times do you hear famous black people saying "I'm gonna fight every cracker here!".

There's no bias, once you get into these jobs you have an image to promote and maintain.



Edit: lol at the post above. :coleman:

The Trayvon Martin case pretty much allowed all the ISH racists to come out of hiding. Which is weird because some of these guys literally suck the dick of black athletes

[-p.tiddy-]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/07/marcus-vick-brother-of-eagles-qb-puts-bounty-on-riley-cooper/

Marcus Vick put a bounty out on Cooper via Twitter.


This is fcking awesome, I love this

[GOBB]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/988285_10201692255176291_51852707_n.jpg

:roll:

[Jameerthefear]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/988285_10201692255176291_51852707_n.jpg

:roll:
osht :roll: :roll:

[Rasheed1]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/07/marcus-vick-brother-of-eagles-qb-puts-bounty-on-riley-cooper/

Marcus Vick put a bounty out on Cooper via Twitter.


This is fcking awesome, I love this


Something is seriously wrong with Marcus Vick.. Why would he do something like that? his brother plays for the Eagles

he's been attention whoring for a minute now and its ridiculous..

He prolly doesnt even have enough doe to pay off a bounty

[GOBB]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/07/marcus-vick-brother-of-eagles-qb-puts-bounty-on-riley-cooper/

Marcus Vick put a bounty out on Cooper via Twitter.


This is fcking awesome, I love this

He has alot of nerve. Dude needs to sit his ass down. What team does he playt for again? :oldlol:

Take notes from your brother...


Riley is my friend and our relationship has always been about mutual respect. He looked me in the eyes and apologized to me and my teammates. I believe in forgiveness and I believe in him.

[dude77]

Riley's colleague, WR Jason Avant said: "Some guys accepted (the apology) right away. For some it may take days, weeks, or months"

a lot of sensitive fggts on that team :oldlol:

[dude77]

Whats getting lost in all this is how questionable it is that he was so desperate to get backstage at a dudes concert..

:roll: best post in the thread

[OldSkoolball#52]

Something is seriously wrong with Marcus Vick.. Why would he do something like that? his brother plays for the Eagles

he's been attention whoring for a minute now and its ridiculous..

He prolly doesnt even have enough doe to pay off a bounty


A minute? Marcus Vick has always been a living abortion. I feel bad for Mike who genuinely got his shit together after the prison sentence and has to continue to be associated with this parasite.

Marcus Vick is exactly who Im talkin bout when I say go the **** back to africa. /No Cooper

[Jameerthefear]

Marcus Vick is exactly who Im talkin bout when I say go the **** back to africa.
:biggums:

[irondarts]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/07/marcus-vick-brother-of-eagles-qb-puts-bounty-on-riley-cooper/

Marcus Vick put a bounty out on Cooper via Twitter.


This is fcking awesome, I love this
Marcus Vick is a special kind of stupid.

[Rasheed1]

:biggums:


yeah he takes it overboard just a bit... the vitriol put him on the level of Marcus Vick..

[ace23]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/07/marcus-vick-brother-of-eagles-qb-puts-bounty-on-riley-cooper/

Marcus Vick put a bounty out on Cooper via Twitter.


This is fcking awesome, I love this
Lol, came in expecting it to be a bounty to have him dead. It's just 1 k for the next person who hits him. People overreacting. I like this. :oldlol:

[dude77]

Oh I bet you long for the days of when you could get away with calling someone a ****** without hiding behind a computer.

stfu .. if I had a nickel for everytime someone said something offensive about whites I would be rich .. of course, that's never a headline .. ever .. people just laugh those off .. gtfoh

[OldSkoolball#52]

:biggums:


Yeah go ahead make it racist bro.

You remember Bush's midterm election when all the grandstanding celebrities and liberals said theyd leave if he got elected? Well he did get elected and conservatives called out liberals and told them to leave.

After this trayvon martin thing, people like Akon were saying "lets go back to africa!"

And im sayin yeah, go do it if youre gonna say it. Marcus Vick is scum. I absolutely DO want him to go to Africa, if not just simply drop dead. You might be used to making other people tap dance on egg shells, but not me. Not gonna be intimidated out of my own opinion. Good job good effort tho

[Replay32]

The Trayvon Martin case pretty much allowed all the ISH racists to come out of hiding. Which is weird because some of these guys literally suck the dick of black athletes

This. Several "closet" racist who have no perspective on the world we leave in, have a lot to say regarding the "Black" community. They really need to STFU and keep it movin'.

Anyway...

This guy was drunk and wasn't capable of filtering his comments at the time. He may be a closet racist too. Hopefully the team can have true dialog and everybody involved can learn from this.

[GOBB]

Lol, came in expecting it to be a bounty to have him dead. It's just 1 k for the next person who hits him. People overreacting. I like this. :oldlol:

Overreacting? Are you Marcus Vick aka Stuck on Stupid? Did you not read his tweets? They are moronic. No one cares about the bounty per say "omg he wishes Riley to be hurt! :( ". Its the fact that a guy who (what team does he play for again? anyone?) has the nerve to even talk give his RAP SHEET is longer than his football career. He's done and said stupid things repeatedly and continues to embarrass Michael Vick who will forever be linked to his idiot brother.

I dont see for the life of me why you couldnt figure this out? Or is your agenda to go against the grain for f*cks sake? Be different? Sometimes you are dumb as shyt.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Lol, came in expecting it to be a bounty to have him dead. It's just 1 k for the next person who hits him. People overreacting. I like this. :oldlol:


Damn!

I got fooled as well. I mean, I still think the dudes a parasite in general of course, but if its just for a big hit then im totally cool with it.

Funny thing is Michael probably is the one secretly puttin up the money :oldlol:

[GOBB]

The Trayvon Martin case pretty much allowed all the ISH racists to come out of hiding. Which is weird because some of these guys literally suck the dick of black athletes

Yeah dude, pun intended

[GOBB]

.

Funny thing is Michael probably is the one secretly puttin up the money :oldlol:

Mike Vick supports Riley Cooper. So that's wrong.

[Jameerthefear]

Yeah go ahead make it racist bro.

You remember Bush's midterm election when all the grandstanding celebrities and liberals said theyd leave if he got elected? Well he did get elected and conservatives called out liberals and told them to leave.

After this trayvon martin thing, people like Akon were saying "lets go back to africa!"

And im sayin yeah, go do it if youre gonna say it. Marcus Vick is scum. I absolutely DO want him to go to Africa, if not just simply drop dead. You might be used to making other people tap dance on egg shells, but not me. Not gonna be intimidated out of my own opinion. Good job good effort tho
I didn't make anything racist. You literally said in two posts that you wanted black people to go back to Africa...

[-p.tiddy-]

Oh god even Marcus Vick is smart enough not to tweet out bounty for actual murder lol

[-p.tiddy-]

Mike Vick supports Riley Cooper. So that's wrong.
We both know Vicks words on this matter are all business and no heart

[GOBB]

We both know Vicks words on this matter are all business and no heart

How do you know how he really feels?

[OldSkoolball#52]

We both know Vicks words on this matter are all business and no heart


This, plus the fact that I was joking.

[SCREWstonRockets]

I actually think he meant it to say the "ah" but the "er" came out. It's the accent LOL

Don't even thinks there were any blacks at that concert

[OldSkoolball#52]

I didn't make anything racist. You literally said in two posts that you wanted black people to go back to Africa...


No, I said the black folks who always complain. Just like I said all the celebrities who threw a tantrum and said theyd leave if Bush were reelected should gtfo.

Its not a race thing dude. Sorry to disappoint. I have no racial preferences, which is not to say I dont have certain cultural preferences. I judge a person by who they are as a person. that doesnt mean I have to give the standard PC opinion on broad racial ISSUES.
Sorry if that disappoints you.

[Rasheed1]

I actually think he meant it to say the "ah" but the "er" came out. It's the accent LOL

Don't even thinks there were any blacks at that concert


He said he was referring to security guards.. They probably were black....

like I said, I give Riley Cooper credit for being a man about the incident... his attitude will make it go away faster than if he was whining about other people saying it and ll the other excuses you hear

[GOBB]

He said he was referring to security guards.. They probably were black....

like I said, I give Riley Cooper credit for being a man about the incident... his attitude will make it go away faster than if he was whining about other people saying it and ll the other excuses you hear

Pretty much

[Electric Slide]

Good thing there are no black guys in the NFL.

[NuggetsFan]

I can definitely be a little insensitive when it comes to race stuff but anybody saying anything other than that's really wrong is out to lunch. That was a vicious N bomb, like fck your people type shit :oldlol: . NFL is a business so I'm sure it'll blow over at the end of the day but gotta think there will be a few guys remembering that come the start of the season, rightfully so too.

Props to him for taking the heat but jesus christ unprovoked really and snaps and calls a black dude a n*gger? that's awful. Jokingly, if the security guard brought race into it first or something than ok you can try and make some sense of it but clearly not Coopers first rodeo. Don't just decide to do that at 25, clearly drunk and let him self go abit.

[COnDEMnED]

Maybe he meant to say naggers?
Case in point, Exhibit A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDbZham_3c

[-p.tiddy-]

Cooper was already fined and maybe suspended...what he did was clearly racist...but I am wondering if it is a bit of a double standard that if a black player says the exact same words no one even blinks

[iggy>]

Attending a kenny chesney concert is unforgivable in my eyes.

[Godzuki]

he's screwed. that footage is as taboo as you can get these days. he might as well fake a acl and retire now.

i agree with bagelred but why you would say that here i don't know :lol . and the answer is thats the way the world is. it may be a huge double standard with a lot of things, there are a lot of other races that have suffered too, but like it or not thats the way it is and its not changing anytime soon.

[GOBB]

Cooper was already fined and maybe suspended...what he did was clearly racist...but I am wondering if it is a bit of a double standard that if a black player says the exact same words no one even blinks

Vick did time, lost millions and people to this day despise the guy over dog fighting. Riley Cooper will be ok

[OldSkoolball#52]

Cooper was already fined and maybe suspended...what he did was clearly racist...but I am wondering if it is a bit of a double standard that if a black player says the exact same words no one even blinks

Josh Howard once said about the singing of the national anthem "I dont celebrate that shit. Im black."

Which I have no problem with. It was a minor blip on the radio. But imagine if a white guy had said "Black people dont celebrate that shit.." Itd have been a major outrage and Al and Jesse would be marching down the street waving gigantic American flags just to make the white guy look bad. But if Josh Howard says it? Whatever :confusedshrug:

[Goldrush25]

Cooper was already fined and maybe suspended...what he did was clearly racist...but I am wondering if it is a bit of a double standard that if a black player says the exact same words no one even blinks

No it's not a double standard. I know people want to say a word is a word, but there is such a thing as context. That doesn't mean black people saying it to each other is ok. In this particular context, Cooper was clearly using the word to be hurtful. That's not why black people use it to each other.

And all of us know this of course. I just assume people here are playing Devil's advocate or just being willfully ignorant.

[DropStep]

Some of you guys must idealize dolts like Sean Hannity and Anthony Cumia.

This country still has a major problem with race and im not sure if any of us will be alive to see the day where this shit finally gets fixed.

I hope Cooper doesnt lose his job and becomes the scapegoat, obviously what he said was wrong and shows how vile people can get in the heat of the moment but we should calm down a bit when someone says something offensive. We give these things power because of our reactions.

[GOBB]

Josh Howard once said about the singing of the national anthem "I dont celebrate that shit. Im black."

Which I have no problem with. It was a minor blip on the radio. But imagine if a white guy had said "Black people dont celebrate that shit.." Itd have been a major outrage and Al and Jesse would be marching down the street waving gigantic American flags just to make the white guy look bad. But if Josh Howard says it? Whatever :confusedshrug:

You want Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to fight for whites. :rolleyes:

And dont worry you have Bill O'Reilly.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Vick did time, lost millions and people to this day despise the guy over dog fighting. Riley Cooper will be ok


I despised Vick before the dog fighting, because of his attitude and actions.

I defended him, when that ludicrous dog fighting sentence was handed down.


Most first time DUI offenders dont get a jail sentence, let alone a PRISON sentence. That shit actually kills PEOPLE. This dude did hard time because he killed some ****ing dogs? Like its that different than hunting for sport? Absurd.

Dont get me wrong it should still be illegal. But a first time offender? Being put in prison for a year? Actually the more I even think about it now the more outrageous it continues to seem.

And I dont think it was race at all. Judge would have given that sentence to a white guy, especially if he were famous. High n mighty son of a bitch. What a joke.

[ace23]

Overreacting? Are you Marcus Vick aka Stuck on Stupid? Did you not read his tweets? They are moronic. No one cares about the bounty per say "omg he wishes Riley to be hurt! :( ". Its the fact that a guy who (what team does he play for again? anyone?) has the nerve to even talk give his RAP SHEET is longer than his football career. He's done and said stupid things repeatedly and continues to embarrass Michael Vick who will forever be linked to his idiot brother.

I dont see for the life of me why you couldnt figure this out? Or is your agenda to go against the grain for f*cks sake? Be different? Sometimes you are dumb as shyt.
What's wrong with him tweeting? He can do whatever he wants. I tweet, too. I have no football career. :confusedshrug:

He does tweet some stupid shit, but this bounty should be fun.

[longtime lurker]

stfu .. if I had a nickel for everytime someone said something offensive about whites I would be rich .. of course, that's never a headline .. ever .. people just laugh those off .. gtfoh

Yes because whites are obviously face more racism in America than minorities. Please tell us the plight of being white. So far the only thing that I've heard in this thread about how hard it is for white people is that you can't use racist language with impunity.

[tpols]

What's wrong with him tweeting? He can do whatever he wants. I tweet, too. I have no football career. :confusedshrug:

He does tweet some stupid shit, but this bounty should be fun.
Who the hell is going to stick their neck out for 1000 dollars.. from Marcus Vick. These guys make at least a mil a year and for <1% of their salary their going to risk huge punishment[if caught]?


Makes no sense.. these guys get fined 10x that bounty amount and dont even blink..

[OldSkoolball#52]

What's wrong with him tweeting? He can do whatever he wants. I tweet, too. I have no football career. :confusedshrug:

He does tweet some stupid shit, but this bounty should be fun.


I actually agree that the big hit bounty should actually end up bein pretty fun. Every week defenders are just gonna line up to crush this dude. Not for the 1k bounty, just for the comments. Its too bad they dont do JACKED UP on the pregame anymore, since big hits are apparently taboo in footbal now. For people who like big hits though, the Eagles will be the team to watch.

But as far as Marcus Vick, why are you tweeting? Who are you? A punk who leeches off your brothers name? Dude should be mindful of his brothers position and keep his mouth shut, just because marcus has nothing to lose doesnt mean he should constantly run his mouth like an idiot and embarrass the rest of his family

[-p.tiddy-]

What's wrong with him tweeting? He can do whatever he wants. I tweet, too. I have no football career. :confusedshrug:

He does tweet some stupid shit, but this bounty should be fun.
You don't have a brother in the NFL playing QB either

Marcus is on there saying "who woukd want to play with these guys"...his brother IS playing with them. Marcus is a fckin retard.

[Heavincent]

The Vick brothers have never been known for their intelligence.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yes because whites are obviously face more racism in America than minorities. Please tell us the plight of being white. So far the only thing that I've heard in this thread about how hard it is for white people is that you can't use racist language with impunity.

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

[dude77]

Yes because whites are obviously face more racism in America than minorities. Please tell us the plight of being white. So far the only thing that I've heard in this thread about how hard it is for white people is that you can't use racist language with impunity.

there are whites who've been bullied/attacked/killed/raped for being white .. it happens NOW ...

there are plenty of blacks who go around saying stupid shit about whites .. people just laugh it off .. it happens more often than people think ..

I've had blacks walking by me talk shit to me because I'm white or do other stupid shit .. this guy was just drunk and acting a fool .. I say get over it .. people say dumb, offensive things all the time .. now if it becomes a pattern then he's a fkn idiot and deserves whatever he gets .. but getting outraged over these isolated incidents is a little ridiculous

[dude77]

yeah vick's brother isn't the brightest bulb .. your brother throws to this guy but you're calling for a bounty on him .. maybe him and vick aren't on good terms ?

[GOBB]

:oldlol: called it, you had bad experiences with black people that left you sour

[bagelred]

Can you imagine if a black guy said a racist word.....and then some white athlete called for a bounty on the black guy's head?

woooooooooooo wee......the media would be all over that.

"WHITE GUY CALLS FOR VICIOUS ATTACK ON BLACK ATHLETE!":eek:

[NuggetsFan]

I've had blacks walking by me talk shit to me because I'm white or do other stupid shit .. this guy was just drunk and acting a fool .. I say get over it .. people say dumb, offensive things all the time .. now if it becomes a pattern then he's a fkn idiot and deserves whatever he gets .. but getting outraged over these isolated incidents is a little ridiculous

It's the opposite. If the black guy was being an idiot or bringing race into it than whatever, you can make sense of it even if it's stupid. If the security guard calls Cooper a cracker and he turns around and drops an N bomb, I wouldn't give a shit. I'm not a sensitive dude and white tho.

This instance? Cooper was unprovoked and said those comments in anger. Drunk or not that was pretty gross and as an insensitive white dude I'll laugh when he gets jacked up. I can understand in this case making a big deal out of the situation. He sounded like a straight up racist backwoods redneck.

[JMT]

Kind of a chicken and egg, thing. N-gger is more offensive because black people TAKE more offense to it.....understand?

I feel black people are easily the most sensitive group...of ANY group in America....to any slights, disrespects, offensive language...whatever. You can pretty much get away of making fun of any group you want except for black people....

There is a group of prominent black people who have discovered that perpetuating outrage is a lucrative cottage industry. As long as they are rewarded, this will continue.

To your first point, there was never a time where black people legally, systematically beat and abused white people while shouting "cracker".

[ace23]

You don't have a brother in the NFL playing QB either

Marcus is on there saying "who woukd want to play with these guys"...his brother IS playing with them. Marcus is a fckin retard.
Yes, I saw that. I still think people are overreacting, but whatever.

[GOBB]

I like how lil Wayne responds. It's funny when certain guys wanna address things. Wayne same guy who disrespect Emitt Till family. Disrespect Bosh wife. Yet you are gonna comment on this? Pfft



What's wrong with him tweeting? He can do whatever he wants. I tweet, too. I have no football career. :confusedshrug:

He does tweet some stupid shit, but this bounty should be fun.

As mentioned the stupid things he says goes back to his brother who has been trying to repair his image for some time. Whether you believe it or not his brother has to now answer defend and hear about what his retarded brother is saying. You don't think that's unfair?

If Marcus Vick last name was Doe. Zero f*cks are given.

Also his reputation from college to trying to be an NFL pro exists. That plays into this all as well. Again I don't think anyone at least myself is overreacting or cares about the bounty. I just don't see why Marcus continues to run his big mouth. Like I said he has some nerve to try and take a stance on this issue.

[bagelred]

T

To your first point, there was never a time where black people legally, systematically beat and abused white people while shouting "cracker".

Sure there is.....That time is 2013. :yaohappy: Look at the crime statistics. :eek:

[ace23]

Sure there is.....That time is 2013. :yaohappy: Look at the crime statistics. :eek:
I don't know if you're retarded or whatever, but do you know what "legally" means?

[Goldrush25]

Sure there is.....That time is 2013. :yaohappy: Look at the crime statistics. :eek:

You're clearly just trying to get a rise out of people and have forgone any intelligent debate at this point.

There's hardly any point in talking about anything on these boards because someone's always trying to "troll," like that's cool to do or something.

[TheMan]

Whats getting lost in all this is how questionable it is that he was so desperate to get backstage at a dudes concert..
True dat:oldlol:

[TheMan]

A minute? Marcus Vick has always been a living abortion. I feel bad for Mike who genuinely got his shit together after the prison sentence and has to continue to be associated with this parasite.

Marcus Vick is exactly who Im talkin bout when I say go the **** back to africa. /No Cooper
:facepalm

[JMT]

only in Texas...


BUT IT'S NOT IN TEXAS, AND IT'S NOT A COWBOYS PLAYER...IT'S A PLAYER FOR THE FILTHADELPHIA EAGLES!!!

:banana: :banana: :banana:



it's like a small gift from God...for God's team, the Dallas Cowboys


Says the whiny hypocrite that spent pages crying about people unfairly characterizing Texas and Texans because the actions of one person (or in that case, a jury of Texans) in no way reflects on the people in that state...when talking about a guy from Clearwater, Fl.

[Peteballa]

:facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

- You know Marcus Vick would have had to borrow that $1,000 fom his brother anyways...:lol

- prolly asks BigBrother for gas money everyday


and ...


there was a black dude at aKenny cheney concert?...

[PistonsFan#21]

- You know Marcus Vick would have had to borrow that $1,000 fom his brother anyways...:lol

- prolly asks BigBrother for gas money everyday


and ...


there was a black dude at aKenny cheney concert?...

he was referring to the black security guard that wouldnt let him backstage

[guy]

Kind of a chicken and egg, thing. N-gger is more offensive because black people TAKE more offense to it.....understand?

I feel black people are easily the most sensitive group...of ANY group in America....to any slights, disrespects, offensive language...whatever. You can pretty much get away of making fun of any group you want except for black people....

I don't really understand why its that hard to see why all of this is the case. There has to be one group out there that has be the most sensitive right? It makes perfectly reasonable sense why that would be the race of people that has clearly been the most oppressed in this country's history (at least of those races that still holds a high % of the US population). N*gger is more offensive then cracker because black people take more offense to it AND because white people barely take any offense to cracker. Why don't white people take offense to it? Because there's not this rich history of oppression and discrimination towards them. Whether that type of oppression and discrimination exists anymore doesn't mean people can't be sensitive towards the history of it and anything that reminds them of that. I don't know if there is a derogatory term for heterosexuals, but if there was, and a gay person used that term towards a straight person, do you think that straight person is going to be super offended? Of course not. Is it the equivalent of a straight person calling a gay person a f*ggot? Of course not. Same logic.

And I don't know what you're talking about, but the stereotypes of black people are brought up all the time and just as much, if not more then every other minority, mainly because they have a much higher populations then most of them.

I don't really understand why people are so dumbfounded by this. Sensitivity is a product of history. Or do you just think this is just something inherently in black people?

[MavsSuperFan]

:biggums:


at a country concert? who was he referring to? He had the hard R at the end, but I dont know if there was any black people there :oldlol: He might have been referring to white guys...

either way, bad decision..

Its a kenny chesney concert, basically he was saying he isnt willing to fight anyone at the concert.:lol

Seriously though he is probably referring to some white guys and just uses the n-word too freely.

Edit: I wish people would stop using the n-word, such a vulgar word.

[nightprowler10]

I like these threads because it really highlights the self-serving logic of many people. The same people who want us to ignore history when it comes to race will never ignore historical context when it comes to their religious beliefs.

[nightprowler10]

Its a kenny chesney concert, basically he was saying he isnt willing to fight anyone at the concert.:lol

Seriously though he is probably referring to some white guys and just uses the n-word too freely.
No he confirmed it was aimed at the black bodyguard.

[-p.tiddy-]

Cracker is slang for a slave owner cracking a whip. It isn't offensive at all infact I think it is even more offensive to blacks as it hints at slavery and whites being the owners.

I have a black friend that calls whites "Pecker Woods" and I laugh everytime he says it but at least the one trys to get at whites as people.

[nightprowler10]

I just call them the pigmentally challenged.

[Jailblazers7]

You don't have a brother in the NFL playing QB either

Marcus is on there saying "who woukd want to play with these guys"...his brother IS playing with them. Marcus is a fckin retard.

That's what makes it awesome. Mike probably text him like "bro...seriously?" :oldlol:

[MavsSuperFan]

HATE this logic.


So because one group is more insecure, we must exempt them from the expectation of a certain standard of behavior?

That's what I hate about political correctness inequality. It basically implies inferiority amongst various groups. Guilty white libtards assign every minority group an amount of "leeway" based on how insecure/inferior these liberals believe those groups SHOULD feel about themselves. By basically holding white american christian males to a standard of "zero percent leniency" they are essentially saying "We know, we know... YOU DA BESS. Just try not to be so obvious about it."


I mean that's the thing. Do we want EQUALITY or do we want special treatment? Because usually people who "fight for equality" are really fighting for special treatment based on nothing other than hypersensitivity to what might hurt someones feelings. Grow up already f@ggots. Enforce the same standards for everyone.

Would I say what Riley Cooper said? No.
Do I care what Riley Cooper said? No.
Would I say what Ice Cube says about white people all the time? No.
Do I still listen to Ice Cube's music because IDGAF? Yes.


People need to be more productive than to whine and cry about words and shit. If words are your biggest fear, check your ****ing vag1na. It's got major sand in it.
No the n-word and cracker are not anywhere close to being equivalent.

Context and history does matter. Eg a rape joke shouldnt be told to women at a rape crisis center.

White people shouldn't ever use the N-word.

[AlphaWolf24]

Cracker is slang for a slave owner cracking a whip. It isn't offensive at all infact I think it is even more offensive to blacks as it hints at slavery and whites being the owners.

I have a black friend that calls whites "Pecker Woods" and I laugh everytime he says it but at least the one trys to get at whites as people.


A pecker wood is a mostly California slang for a white dude....used from the Peckerwoods prison/biker gangs

[MavsSuperFan]

No he confirmed it was aimed at the black bodyguard.
ok then I was totally wrong, and he deserves his suspension. and is at best a dumbass and at worst a racist.

[Hittin_Shots]

I just call them the pigmentally challenged.

White people?

[bagelred]

You're clearly just trying to get a rise out of people and have forgone any intelligent debate at this point.

There's hardly any point in talking about anything on these boards because someone's always trying to "troll," like that's cool to do or something.

What is it about :yaohappy: that you didn't understand?

[Hittin_Shots]

What is it about :yaohappy: that you didn't understand?

This is a black vs white race war thread, throwing up chinese people will just cause confusion.

[MavsSuperFan]

Im not defending this guy at all.....i couldn't care less....but this country is so obsessed with outing every incident of possible white racism. Any one phrase, joke, comment, of politically incorrect language towards black people and your life/career are over....


Meanwhile, the irony is, black people are easily the most racist and unsympathetic group of any group of people. :oldlol: They'll throw the word "cracka" out on the drop of a hat. I don't believe they care for other groups either....korean, jewish, gays, etc....but that always gets swept under rug....you know, slavery, civil rights and all.

But that WHITE MAN SAID SOMETHING WRONG!!! HUGE HEADLINES!!!!



But anywho....i'm just musing.....that redneck probably deserves what's coming to him anyway.....:oldlol:



I apologize for calling him a redneck. Wrong and insensitive. :no:

Context matters man. the n-word hurts black people far more than cracker or honky hurts white people because of history.

Cracker refers to when white slave masters would whip black slaves. the crack of the whip.

I believe honky is a reference to when whites would honk horns at black people to harass them but I am not sure about that.

the n-word was used as a means to degrade blacks and make them less than human. Whats more the slave masters actually did treat blacks as less than human. 3/5ths of a human legally. Had the roles been reversed white people would tend to be more sensitive to racial slights. For that reason I have never held it against black people for being offended by the n-word. I think I would be too if history was reversed.

[Hittin_Shots]

Context matters man. the n-word hurts black people far more than cracker or honky hurts white people because of history.

Cracker refers to when white slave masters would whip black slaves. the crack of the whip.

I believe honky is a reference to when whites would honk horns at black people to harass them but I am not sure about that.

the n-word was used as a means to degrade blacks and make them less than human. Whats more the slave masters actually did treat blacks as less than human. 3/5ths of a human legally. Had the roles been reversed white people would tend to be more sensitive to racial slights. For that reason I have never held it against black people for being offended by the n-word. I think I would be too if history was reversed.

I was completely unaware black people were the only slaves, or were the others 3.5/5ths?

[MavsSuperFan]

I was completely unaware black people were the only slaves, or were the others 3.5/5ths?

In america yes black people were the only slaves.

And indentured servitude > slavery

Edit: I know all races have been slaves at some point. But the black race was singled out for slavery during the atlantic slave trade, by white europeans and the arab slave trade by the powerful empires of the middle east.

[Hittin_Shots]

In america yes black people were the only slaves.

And indentured servitude > slavery

Edit: I know all races have been slaves at some point. But the black race was singled out for slavery during the atlantic slave trade, by white europeans and the arab slave trade by the powerful empires of the middle east.

We Irish should be just as angry as our African brothers.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076

[MavsSuperFan]

We Irish should be just as angry as our African brothers.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076

Its different though Irish people were singled out for slavery the way africans were.

[GatorKid117]

The only thing I'll say, when you go play basketball or whatever and every black/hispanic guy calls each other N... it kind of subconsciously desensitizes the word to you.

Obviously this isn't an excuse for Cooper but if its such an offensive word, don't belittle its significance by using it so casually all the time.

Just my 2 cents.

[nightprowler10]

White people?
Haha yup. Gets a laugh out of most people.

[Jackass18]

They need to set up Riley Cooper vs. Jon Jones

[KNOW1EDGE]

I see nothing wrong with what he said.

[GOBB]

The only thing I'll say, when you go play basketball or whatever and every black/hispanic guy calls each other N... it kind of subconsciously desensitizes the word to you.

Obviously this isn't an excuse for Cooper but if its such an offensive word, don't belittle its significance by using it so casually all the time.

Just my 2 cents.

Where do they play ball and call each other n*gger?

N*gga is not n*gger

[bmulls]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/27793535.jpg

This whole thing has gotten totally out of hand. If you're a white guy, today is "National Proclaim Loudly That You Are Not A Racist Day". If you're a black guy, today is "National Get Wildly Offended Over Something That Doesn't Impact Your Life At All Day".

[KNOW1EDGE]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/27793535.jpg

This whole thing has gotten totally out of hand. If you're a white guy, today is "National Proclaim Loudly That You Are Not A Racist Day". If you're a black guy, today is "National Get Wildly Offended Over Something That Doesn't Impact Your Life At All Day".

THISSSSSSS.

Quit acting like this is any sort of big deal at all.

[Stempel, HERB]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/27793535.jpg

This whole thing has gotten totally out of hand. If you're a white guy, today is "National Proclaim Loudly That You Are Not A Racist Day". If you're a black guy, today is "National Get Wildly Offended Over Something That Doesn't Impact Your Life At All Day".

when is "uneducated loser with no options enlists in the military day"

[bmulls]

when is "uneducated loser with no options enlists in the military day"

I've got a college degree bud, I'm enlisting on a SEAL contract. I'd love to see what you're doing with your life :lol

[guy]

The only thing I'll say, when you go play basketball or whatever and every black/hispanic guy calls each other N... it kind of subconsciously desensitizes the word to you.

Obviously this isn't an excuse for Cooper but if its such an offensive word, don't belittle its significance by using it so casually all the time.

Just my 2 cents.

They say n*gga not n*gger. Not saying you're totally wrong but if he said that instead and it wasn't in such a violent context, I don't think it would be nearly this big of a deal.

[AlphaWolf24]

Rule book for non black folks....( speaking from my era)

- 1980- 1990

....any form of the " N word"...even " Boy" is off limits within shouting distance of a black folks ear ( no exception)

- 1990 - 2000

the "N word" is off limits...." N word " with a soft " AH" sound is only exeptable when signing along to yo fav Rap song....even then maybe not a great idea if in earshot...

" Boy" is nearly widely exceptable now....." That's ma Boy"...." what's up boy"..." hell yeah boy" is common slang....amongst white and black folks

- 2000 - 2010

" N***AH!"...the soft " AH" is becoming more widely used now.....amongst friends it is perfectly exeptable...to say " Mah N***AH!".....on XBox Live it is mandatory!


- many young Phillipinos and Mezzicanz have adopted the soft AH sound in nearly every form of communication

singing along to yo fav rap even pop song is much easier...

" the N Word" with the hard "RRRRR" is still not exceptable in public within earshot.....in fact the Hard RRRRRR is crossing the line between friendly banter and Racism..

[GatorKid117]

Where do they play ball and call each other n*gger?

N*gga is not n*gger

I'm aware they are not the same.

But you don't think people associate on some level n*gga with n*gger? I do.

And I think its only logical that if you hear an abbreviated version of a word over and over its going to desensitize it and all other associated words with it. Is that right? No, but thats the human brain for you.

[GatorKid117]

They say n*gga not n*gger. Not saying you're totally wrong but if he said that instead and it wasn't in such a violent context, I don't think it would be nearly this big of a deal.

Yea I agree. My response was moreso just a general observation than a reply on Cooper.

No excuses for him. Been a fantastic month for Gator players :facepalm

[longtime lurker]

Serious question are there white people on here that are legitimately deeply offended by the word cracker? And I'm addressing the level headed posters not the obnoxious trolls.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Serious question are there white people on here that are legitimately deeply offended by the word cracker? And I'm addressing the level headed posters not the obnoxious trolls.

What ethnicity are you? Just curious.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Serious question are there white people on here that are legitimately deeply offended by the word cracker? And I'm addressing the level headed posters not the obnoxious trolls.

Im white.

If a black/Hispanic/Asian etc was angry at me, and maliciously called me a "cracker" then yes, I would be offended.

If ANYONE jokingly called me a cracker, not at all would I be offended.

[NuggetsFan]

I hope people keep this relevant going into the season. WR, worst position in this case. Hopefully some scrub just takes a run at him away from the ball going across centerfield :lol

[longtime lurker]

Im white.

If a black/Hispanic/Asian etc was angry at me, and maliciously called me a "cracker" then yes, I would be offended.

If ANYONE jokingly called me a cracker, not at all would I be offended.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmzT4OV-w0

[Rasheed1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmzT4OV-w0

:oldlol:

[red1]

THISSSSSSS.

are you a gay snake? tssssssss

[MavsSuperFan]

Serious question are there white people on here that are legitimately deeply offended by the word cracker? And I'm addressing the level headed posters not the obnoxious trolls.

Not really, depends on how its said I guess.

A "hey you" can be offensive based on how its said.

I definitely dont think its as offensive as the N-word, but sometimes you can be offended if you know the other person is trying to offend you, even if what they are saying doesnt really offend you. The fact that they want to offend you is the offensive part.

[KNOW1EDGE]

are you a gay snake? tssssssss

:roll:

Why yes, I am indeed a homosexual snake. :cheers:

[kNicKz]

Some people on this board are truly obsessed with race :roll:

Honestly, Riley Cooper will never be comfortable in a locker room again, what a retard

[AlphaWolf24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmzT4OV-w0


Louis CK = another white Hispanic:bowdown:

[nightprowler10]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmzT4OV-w0
Ha ha ha! Never gets old.

[-p.tiddy-]

Riley Cooper excused from Eagles activities (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000224943/article/eagles-excuse-riley-cooper-from-all-team-activities)

I have to say, I think that Mike Vick is handling this great. This puts a lot of pressure on Vick because he knows that a large segment of the black community is frowning on him for accepting Cooper's apology and sticking up for him. Props to Vick for that, Michael that is, not Marcus lol.

[rhythmic]

Dude probably ended his career with those comments. :facepalm
1 million dollars, if a black NFL player said similar things at a Jay-Z concert towards white people this would not even receive half the media attention, public backlash or disgust from teammates. :rolleyes:

[Heavincent]

So Eagles players respect Vick, but they can't respect Cooper anymore?

:oldlol:

[Electric Slide]

This is why black people are essentially put on a pedestal in today's world.

It is because they are so ultra sensitive about everything that if you don't pretty much suck their dick that they'll think you are a racist.

[longhornfan1234]

So Eagles players respect Vick, but they can't respect Cooper anymore?

:oldlol:

Vick did his time.

[rhythmic]

So Eagles players respect Vick, but they can't respect Cooper anymore?

:oldlol:

Touche.

[Heavincent]

Vick did his time.

That doesn't mean he isn't still a piece of shit.

[rhythmic]

Vick did his time.

You don't go to jail for saying racial slurs.
So you'd respect a pedophile if he did his time? :rolleyes:

[Rasheed1]

Riley Cooper excused from Eagles activities (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000224943/article/eagles-excuse-riley-cooper-from-all-team-activities)

I have to say, I think that Mike Vick is handling this great. This puts a lot of pressure on Vick because he knows that a large segment of the black community is frowning on him for accepting Cooper's apology and sticking up for him. Props to Vick for that, Michael that is, not Marcus lol.

I havent seen anybody in the black community or the media who is frowning on Mike Vick for his stance..

Everybody understands he is the leader in the locker room and his job is to pull the team together in order to facilitate wins. He has to do what he is doing, and he is doing a great job. I also think Cooper's apology was sincere and he has been a man about this...

The problem is that once you show that face to the public, its too late.. Context is everything and the way he used the word and his anger gave off a really bad impression.. Players cant help but think "Hey I thought I knew Riley better than this, but maybe I dont know the guy at all".. thats gonna change the dynamic in the locker room... Vick's doing his best to hold it together but this is a bad thing to have happen and we'll just have see how it plays out

[longhornfan1234]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[niko]

The players on the Eagles either need to get over it (if this includes a significant price Cooper needs to pay then so be it, that's not a problem to me at all) or ask mgmt to cut him, because how it's going now won't work.

[GOBB]

So Eagles players respect Vick, but they can't respect Cooper anymore?

:oldlol:

Because maybe just maybe dog fighting to some people isnt as big of a deal it is to you?

Vick also lost contract, endorsements and freedom. He was removed from the game. Enough time lapsed.

[-p.tiddy-]

I havent seen anybody in the black community or the media who is frowning on Mike Vick for his stance..

Everybody understands he is the leader in the locker room and his job is to pull the team together in order to facilitate wins. He has to do what he is doing, and he is doing a great job. I also think Cooper's apology was sincere and he has been a man about this...

The problem is that once you show that face to the public, its too late.. Context is everything and the way he used the word and his anger gave off a really bad impression.. Players cant help but think "Hey I thought I knew Riley better than this, but maybe I dont know the guy at all".. thats gonna change the dynamic in the locker room... Vick's doing his best to hold it together but this is a bad thing to have happen and we'll just have see how it plays out
eh, you haven't seen people frowning at Vick on his stance because it hasn't been displayed by the media...I bet Marcus himself frowns at Mike, and even though Marcus is a retard he is far from the only black man out there that wants to see Cooper put down on his ass.

[Heavincent]

:oldlol:

I love how people act like Vick isn't a shitty human being.

[Rasheed1]

The players on the Eagles either need to get over it (if this includes a significant price Cooper needs to pay then so be it, that's not a problem to me at all) or ask mgmt to cut him, because how it's going now won't work.


On some level I think its overblown right now because it just happened and the media is gonna run the story into the ground.. Riley isnt an integral part of the team. If he was the QB? ouch... that would be a big deal. But I think the teammates can play with him, but he'll be a bit ostracized for a while until he can make it up.. I think its a bad idea to cut him.. what he did was dumb and shines a negative light on himself, but I dont think it was bad enough to get him cut from the team.. If something else happens? then maybe you say "this guy is a cancer and we need to rid of him" but right now I think they just need to settle down and give Riley a chance to earn back the trust of his teammates. He can do it if he plays well and things right for him.

[GOBB]

eh, you haven't seen people frowning at Vick on his stance because it hasn't been displayed by the media...I bet Marcus himself frowns at Mike, and even though Marcus is a retard he is far from the only black man out there that wants to see Cooper put down on his ass.

So you're making an assumption that a (your words) large segment of the black community if frowning upon Vick?

[Rasheed1]

eh, you haven't seen people frowning at Vick on his stance because it hasn't been displayed by the media...I bet Marcus himself frowns at Mike, and even though Marcus is a retard he is far from the only black man out there that wants to see Cooper put down on his ass.


People are frowning at MARCUS Vick... But not Mike Vick.. I have seen more positive responses to Vick over this.. Even from career Vick haters.. He has handled this well

[niko]

On some level I think its overblown right now because it just happened and the media is gonna run the story into the ground.. Riley isnt an integral part of the team. If he was the QB? ouch... that would be a big deal. But I think the teammates can play with him, but he'll be a bit ostracized for a while until he can make it up.. I think its a bad idea to cut him.. what he did was dumb and shines a negative light on himself, but I dont think it was bad enough to get him cut from the team.. If something else happens? then maybe you say "this guy is a cancer and we need to rid of him" but right now I think they just need to settle down and give Riley a chance to earn back the trust of his teammates. He can do it if he plays well and things right for him.
Hopefully it blows over. People have done far worse things and it's blown over, but you are right, it's very early. What a stupid thing to possibly lose your place on a team over.

[TylerOO]

Serious question are there white people on here that are legitimately deeply offended by the word cracker? And I'm addressing the level headed posters not the obnoxious trolls.

Im white and I never have or will be offended by the word cracker

[GOBB]

:oldlol:

I love how people act like Vick isn't a shitty human being.

What makes a person a sh!tty human being to you differs from someone else. :confusedshrug:

We all value, judge people differently. Some are forgiving, others aren't. Not sure why you feel everyone needs to side with how you feel when Vick name is mentioned and what he did.

[PistonsFan#21]

:oldlol:

I love how people act like Vick isn't a shitty human being.

What does Michael Vick has to do with Cooper's actions? Michael Vick did something wrong and he paid for it. Lost huge endorsment deals and even went to jail for a year for it. Alot of people still hate him for what hes done and some accepted his apology and moved on.

Cooper on the other hand insulted a whole race and his own teammates so it might take a lil while before people get over it.

[IGOTGAME]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[-p.tiddy-]

So you're making an assumption that a (your words) large segment of the black community if frowning upon Vick?
yes I am

I think a large segment already frowned on him before this whole ordeal though...

[-p.tiddy-]

People are frowning at MARCUS Vick... But not Mike Vick.. I have seen more positive responses to Vick over this.. Even from career Vick haters.. He has handled this well
Marcus is a retard for tweeting what he did because he is Michael's brother

any other player on a different team makes those same tweets Marcus made and everyone else on the planet would agree with them...

[IGOTGAME]

Marcus is a retard for tweeting what he did because he is Michael's brother

any other player on a different team makes those same tweets Marcus made and everyone else on the planet would agree with them...
Only a dumbass would agree if that were another player on an NFL tram. After all the bounty talk before, a player putting his career in jeopardy by saying such a thing would be ignorant. This, only stupid people would applaud that.

[Rasheed1]

Marcus is a retard for tweeting what he did because he is Michael's brother

any other player on a different team makes those same tweets Marcus made and everyone else on the planet would agree with them...


I dont think people would agree with it no matter who tweeted it .. But the fact that it was Marcus makes it that much more ridiculous..

People see who sent the tweet and they say "Him? He needs to put a bounty on himself and STFU"

[bmulls]

Question for black guys here

Is the word itself offensive, or is it offensive because it means he is a racist?

I ask because Michael Vick came out and said he's known Riley for 3 years, doesn't think he's a racist, Riley says he's not a racist, his parents raised him better than that, they are disgusted, etc.

If Riley isn't truly a racist, and he was just trying to piss this guy off by saying the most offensive thing he could think of at the moment, is it still that big of a deal?

[rhythmic]

Question for black guys here

Is the word itself offensive, or is it offensive because it means he is a racist?

I ask because Michael Vick came out and said he's known Riley for 3 years, doesn't think he's a racist, Riley says he's not a racist, his parents raised him better than that, they are disgusted, etc.

If Riley isn't truly a racist, and he was just trying to piss this guy off by saying the most offensive thing he could think of at the moment, is it still that big of a deal?

No, it is far more offensive if the person actually hates or looks down on black people. If he says that out of anger or just to piss a black person off, then it's obviously still bad, because of slavery...but I don't believe it would receive even remotely the same backlash from the black community.

Am I right guys?

[IGOTGAME]

Question for black guys here

Is the word itself offensive, or is it offensive because it means he is a racist?

I ask because Michael Vick came out and said he's known Riley for 3 years, doesn't think he's a racist, Riley says he's not a racist, his parents raised him better than that, they are disgusted, etc.

If Riley isn't truly a racist, and he was just trying to piss this guy off by saying the most offensive thing he could think of at the moment, is it still that big of a deal?

I don't think it is a big deal regardless of the intent behind it. But he knew societies rules and will pay the appropriate price. It is just an ignorant thing to say and he should have known better. He put the Eagles in a difficult spot having to deal with that....

[Rasheed1]

Question for black guys here

Is the word itself offensive, or is it offensive because it means he is a racist?

I ask because Michael Vick came out and said he's known Riley for 3 years, doesn't think he's a racist, Riley says he's not a racist, his parents raised him better than that, they are disgusted, etc.

If Riley isn't truly a racist, and he was just trying to piss this guy off by saying the most offensive thing he could think of at the moment, is it still that big of a deal?


There is a certain hatred and evil intent that comes out when that word is used the way Cooper used it... When a black person gets you mad and you start shouting n*gger? that says something about your bottomline and how you view black folks..


You say that sh*t to a bodyguard and he hears you? he might just f*ck you up.. That word (the way it came out Riley's mouth) is an attack on your humanity.. It says something the caliber of white guy who would go there with it.

Doesnt mean you dont have black friends or whatever, but it does give off the impression that ultimately you think black people are n*ggers..

Look at Paula Dean She says she has black friends... but its seems that they are her friends like dogs are your friend... like pets who are cool but arent actually human..

What is important is the way Cooper used the word... I know white people who have used the term n*gga and it is just the same if a black person said it.. These white people have built up trust and they also use the word in the right context, so its not the same thing as some stranger white guy calling you a n*gger

Once you see a white guy go down that road? it shows how he thinks of black people on a basic level, and I can understand his teammates being confused and angry..

If you would have told them on Monday "I saw Riley Cooper calling some guy a n*gger" I bet they wouldnt have believed you because they hadnt seen that side of him... But now that they have seen it? They figure, "he's not as cool of guy as I thought he was... He'd probably do that sh*t to me if he was mad enough... Then I'd have to f*ck him up" Then you dont like as much as you did when you thought he wasnt capable of acting like that

It affects team chemistry, but it doesnt mean he is a racist.. A racist is a guy who doesnt need to use that word to give off the same hateful vibe that comes with saying it.. They display their hatred in many other ways and black people can usually pick up on it.. But it hurts also when you think you know a guy and then you see him in a different light

[-p.tiddy-]

I dont think people would agree with it no matter who tweeted it .. But the fact that it was Marcus makes it that much more ridiculous..

People see who sent the tweet and they say "Him? He needs to put a bounty on himself and STFU"
agreed, but I think if Brian Dawkins makes those same tweets they get applauded...

[Goldrush25]

Question for black guys here

Is the word itself offensive, or is it offensive because it means he is a racist?

I ask because Michael Vick came out and said he's known Riley for 3 years, doesn't think he's a racist, Riley says he's not a racist, his parents raised him better than that, they are disgusted, etc.

If Riley isn't truly a racist, and he was just trying to piss this guy off by saying the most offensive thing he could think of at the moment, is it still that big of a deal?


It's the context in which the word is used. It's that simple. That's all anyone has been saying.

[Jameerthefear]

i wish this didn't happen i like riley :(

[MavsSuperFan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CmzT4OV-w0

:lol
but somewhat dated imho, I dont think being white is that big of an advantage anymore. It was before the 1980s. I think being from a wealthy family is far more of an advantage than being white. If you are wealthy your social circle is also wealthy, most economic and social progression occurs through your social connections. EG. the biggest advantage I felt going to private school was the relationships I made.

There have been various points in my life I have thought that being white was a disadvantage, just as I am sure people of all races feel at some points. In many schools you need higher test scores to get in if you are white because of affirmative action, also this is even more true for asians at schools in california. Social pressure by itself makes it so that modern offices try to avoid being overly white and male, if for no other reason than appearances.

Statistically speaking if you are poor and American, you are also probably white. I think people forget how the vast majority of poor people in America are white. I dont think if you are growing up in a trailer park in west virginia you have a lot of white privilege. I would even go as far as saying poor white hicks growing up in trailer parks dont have it better than poor black kids growing up in the inner cities.

Some poor coal miners kid is going to far worse off than say North west, Ivy blue, or the obama daughters. and yet affirmative action will not benefit them in the least. I have always felt affirmative action should be based on economic class and not race.


i wish this didn't happen i like riley :(
Happy it happened to the eagles.

[intrinsic]

What is important is the way Cooper used the word... I know white people who have used the term n*gga and it is just the same if a black person said it.. These white people have built up trust and they also use the word in the right context, so its not the same thing as some stranger white guy calling you a n*gger


Obviously, we come from 2 very different backgrounds, but I can't understand why the quoted is important. If there are white, brown, Chinese people in your group, and you consider them to be friends, why would a black person continue with the word "n!gga"? It's a danger zone for the non-black friends in that group. Why encourage it, or create problems on who used it properly? Surely, you can see how there could be a problem when someone with good intentions is only trying to fit in?

[Mr Know It All]

So much white guilt being cast upon everyone by the Jew dominated media and Jew dominated ESPN. Is this what it has come to? We value the opinion and hurt feelings of a sadistic psychopath who tortured defenseless animals like Michael Vick? Along with his scumbag brother? No one realizes the hypocrisy here? Really?

I seem to remember multiple black athletes running to his defense, excusing him because he was born in that culture. No one called them out for that bullshit excuse. And no one will, because they are black. If you commit a crime and you are black, the excuses are lined up for you to knock down. If you are white, you are evil and deserve nothing but scorn and humiliation from media shills.

Cooper is subject to the same defense. Plus he was drunk and thought he could speak freely without a damn camera in his face (wow, imagine that). I don't look forward to our future with the thought police bearing down on every single thing we say and do.

The ruling elite in the United States has declared war upon a way of life (white culture and whites in general). They have launched demographic warfare through immigration, social warfare through Jew dominated mass media propaganda, and no doubt will find other means by which to enforce a radical leftist anti-white agenda.

[Jameerthefear]

So much white guilt being cast upon everyone by the Jew dominated media and Jew dominated ESPN. Is this what it has come to? We value the opinion and hurt feelings of a sadistic psychopath who tortured defenseless animals like Michael Vick? Along with his scumbag brother? No one realizes the hypocrisy here? Really?

I seem to remember multiple black athletes running to his defense, excusing him because he was born in that culture. No one called them out for that bullshit excuse. And no one will, because they are black. If you commit a crime and you are black, the excuses are lined up for you to knock down. If you are white, you are evil and deserve nothing but scorn and humiliation from media shills.

Cooper is subject to the same defense. Plus he was drunk and thought he could speak freely without a damn camera in his face (wow, imagine that). I don't look forward to our future with the thought police bearing down on every single thing we say and do.

The ruling elite in the United States has declared war upon a way of life (white culture and whites in general). They have launched demographic warfare through immigration, social warfare through Jew dominated mass media propaganda, and no doubt will find other means by which to enforce a radical leftist anti-white agenda.
lol

[OldSkoolball#52]

There is a certain hatred and evil intent that comes out when that word is used the way Cooper used it... When a black person gets you mad and you start shouting n*gger? that says something about your bottomline and how you view black folks..


You say that sh*t to a bodyguard and he hears you? he might just f*ck you up.. That word (the way it came out Riley's mouth) is an attack on your humanity.. It says something the caliber of white guy who would go there with it.

Doesnt mean you dont have black friends or whatever, but it does give off the impression that ultimately you think black people are n*ggers..

Look at Paula Dean She says she has black friends... but its seems that they are her friends like dogs are your friend... like pets who are cool but arent actually human..

What is important is the way Cooper used the word... I know white people who have used the term n*gga and it is just the same if a black person said it.. These white people have built up trust and they also use the word in the right context, so its not the same thing as some stranger white guy calling you a n*gger

Once you see a white guy go down that road? it shows how he thinks of black people on a basic level, and I can understand his teammates being confused and angry..

If you would have told them on Monday "I saw Riley Cooper calling some guy a n*gger" I bet they wouldnt have believed you because they hadnt seen that side of him... But now that they have seen it? They figure, "he's not as cool of guy as I thought he was... He'd probably do that sh*t to me if he was mad enough... Then I'd have to f*ck him up" Then you dont like as much as you did when you thought he wasnt capable of acting like that

It affects team chemistry, but it doesnt mean he is a racist.. A racist is a guy who doesnt need to use that word to give off the same hateful vibe that comes with saying it.. They display their hatred in many other ways and black people can usually pick up on it.. But it hurts also when you think you know a guy and then you see him in a different light


I understand your points, and of course nobody wants to feel degraded. But when Chris Rock says "I love black people, but I hate n*ggers"... Do you think thats just a joke or do you think he really feels that way? I would bet that he does. Is that ok with you?

What if I as a white person feel the same way? What if I like some people who are black because of who they are/how they act, and I view others as n*ggers for the same reason? Is it ok for Rock, not for me?

You talk about attacking humanity. If we are all equals as humans, shouldnt we have the same standard, the same expectations for whats acceptable? Double standards NECCESARILY imply inequality, and if you have inequality that means something is superior and something is inferior. One attacks his own humanity if he says "Black guys can say it (bc they have more to be sensitive about, because theyre worse off, because theyre on the outside looking in etc, thats the implication) but White guys cant say it because they already have it so good by virtue of being white. Now, if you want to have a flat standard where you can slur only your own race, then you have to be EQUALLY mad at any black guy who says hick, cracker, redneck, white devil etc as you are at Cooper for saying N*gger.

But it wont happen. Because black people want to use the leverae of previous injustices to secure the double standard, and white liberals, because deep down they feel superior to black people, will tolerate the double standard to assuage their personal guilt.


IMO its the double standard that continues to drive the wedge between folks. Whether you like it or not, whether you wanna say "but slavery, and jim crowe!", whether you wanna think its completely justified or not, having a doible standard makes many white people resentful. You are denying them jobs or education based on skin color, you are denying them to speak freely based on skin color, you tolerate more from other groups based on skin color. Sound familiar? I mean to hear liberals talk, the only way to compensate for black slavery of the past is to invoke 100 years of white slavery, then it balances out!

The fastest way to eauality is equality. Not overcompensating past inequality, with reverse inequality. That continues to drive the wedge, to create division.

[Rasheed1]

Obviously, we come from 2 very different backgrounds, but I can't understand why the quoted is important. If there are white, brown, Chinese people in your group, and you consider them to be friends, why would a black person continue with the word "n!gga"? It's a danger zone for the non-black friends in that group. Why encourage it, or create problems on who used it properly? Surely, you can see how there could be a problem when someone with good intentions is only trying to fit in?


If you look around? alot of kids today whether they are white, brown, Chinese, they use the word in some way.. There is a video posted on this site with mexicans guys fighting and I hear the word in that video more than I have ever heard it anywhere.. The word is used in different ways by different people..

Like I said.. Context is everything ... People dont seem to want to acknowledge that

I use the example all the time of the kid who calls his sister "fatty" as a inside joke/term of endearment.. He can say it to her and nothing bad will come of it.. But if the next door neighbor decides to start calling her "fatty"? there is probably going to be a fight..

Ive said before, I have friends of different ethnic backgrounds and sometimes they call each other derogatory names (Dago, wop).. They can do that because there is a certain level of comfort and trust they have with each other..

I grew up in a black neighborhood that had a small number of whites in it.. these white people had gained the trust of the black people in the community and if they were to use the word? no one would be upset.. My wife is Italian, and she has dropped it a few times since we been together (over 20 years).. She also grew around black people and she would use it like a black woman would (n*gga please)..

The thing I notice about white people who grow up around black people is that they dont have the same problems talking about race and they dont experience the same awkward feelings other white people do... I see alot of white people who say the wrong things at the wrong times to minorities.. They lack the experience to know what to say and when.. I also notice that white people who spend alot of time with black people dont use the word often even if they have the privilege to.. They dont abuse the privilege..

Its more about being adjusted to the culture you are in.. Some people can handle it and some people cannot.

I can take my wife to out to a function and she can meet some black women from my job, or some friends of mine and she never has a problem saying the wrong things or tripping over herself when talking to black folks because she has the experience and knows how to speak in context

The point is that the way words are used is more important than the actual words that are used.. Words have multiple meanings in different contexts around different people and it would serve everybody better if we acknowledge that when talking about words we use, and who should say what, and when they should say it..

The word isnt going away, so people just need to learn what words they can say, and words they cannot say..

I dont have any problems with my friends who have terms they use among themselves.. I know if I can use the term too or whether I shouldnt use them..

[JMT]

Marcus is a retard for tweeting what he did because he is Michael's brother



Interesting in a discussion of hate filled speech that you feel so comfortable using that word.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Interesting in a discussion of hate filled speech that you feel so comfortable using that word.


So you think he HATES people with DS because he used the slang 'retard' in a conversation?


Dont go reading anything subliminal into this, but you are an oversensitive F@GGOT

[Rasheed1]

Ok but when Chris Rock says "I love black people, but I hate n*ggers"... Do you think thats just a joke or do you think he really feels that way? I would bet that he does. Is that ok with you?

He is not joking... But he is speaking from a black perspective... He doesnt say I hate n*ggers... He says I hate n*ggas..

Black people understand that n*gga can refer to an ignorant bunch of people who ruin everything for good black folks..

I went to college with some n*ggas like chris rock mentioned.. clubs got shut down and alot of fun was ruined because some dudes didnt know how to act..

that's different than a white guy stranger calling a black person a n*gger..

N*gger has a connotation of RACIAL HATRED in it.. Chris Rock doesnt hate n*ggas because they are n*ggers.. He hates fools who act up & spoil everything..




What if I as a white person feel the same way? What if I like some people who are black because of who they are/how they act, and I view others as n*ggers for the same reason? Is it ok for Rock, not for me?

once again, context is everything... It matters who you are talking to.. If they understand what you mean? then I guess there isnt a problem.. But if you go around some black strangers and say it? you probably get punched in the face

you gotta know when to say what and whom to say it to


You talk about attacking humanity. If we are all equals as humans, shouldnt we have the same standard, the same expectations for whats acceptable? Double standards NECCESARILY imply inequality, and if you have inequality that means something is superior and something is inferior. One attacks his own humanity if he says "Black guys can say it (bc they have more to be sensitive about, because theyre worse off, because theyre on the outside looking in etc, thats the implication) but White guys cant say it because they already have it so good by virtue of being white. Now, if you want to have a flat standard where you can slur only your own race, then you have to be EQUALLY mad at any black guy who says hick, cracker, redneck, white devil etc as you are at Cooper for saying N*gger.

This doesnt make alot of sense because you arent accounting for history or context..

Some words carry more weight when said in the wrong venue to the wrong person.

I dont personally use words like craka or redneck and all that other stuff, so I never run into that problem. Its easier for me to simply be respectful of other people. that way, I know Im not unnecessarily offending anyone.. If I wanna offend people, then I have alot of ways to do it, but I wouldnt take pride in using words like that



Like I said.. COntext is everything & one word can have multiple meanings It matters how you say things just as much the actual words you use..

[OldSkoolball#52]

He is not joking... But he is speaking from a black perspective... He doesnt say I hate n*ggers... He says I hate n*ggas..

Black people understand that n*gga can refer to an ignorant bunch of people who ruin everything for good black folks..

I went to college with some n*ggas like chris rock mentioned.. clubs got shut down and alot of fun was ruined because some dudes didnt know how to act..

that's different than a white guy stranger calling a black person a n*gger..

N*gger has a connotation of RACIAL HATRED in it.. Chris Rock doesnt hate n*ggas because they are n*ggers.. He hates fools who act up & spoil everything..





once again, context is everything... It matters who you are talking to.. If they understand what you mean? then I guess there isnt a problem.. But if you go around some black strangers and say it? you probably get punched in the face

you gotta know when to say what and whom to say it to



This doesnt make alot of sense because you arent accounting for history or context..

Some words carry more weight when said in the wrong venue to the wrong person.

I dont personally use words like craka or redneck and all that other stuff, so I never run into that problem. Its easier for me to simply be respectful of other people. that way, I know Im not unnecessarily offending anyone.. If I wanna offend people, then I have alot of ways to do it, but I wouldnt take pride in using words like that



Like I said.. COntext is everything & one word can have multiple meanings It matters how you say things just as much the actual words you use..



Well, I do understand that in some cases its a rude thing to say, in some cases its intended as a downright cruel thing to say, and all that. Still, it seems like theres a LOT of grief over this word. More than that of every other word combined. And I am not of the belief that a WORD can be THAT harmful unless you are straight up going out of your way to make it so. Im not saying it is 0% harmful, but I also think people take it too far the OTHER direction with what a big deal it is. Not because I underestimate its hateful past (I wont say origins because its origin is in fact not hateful). But its a WORD. If a word upsets someone THAT greatly, I gotta think there are deeper issues, and thats on the individual. We always hear people being accused of being INsensitive. Does anyone else feel we have a growing problem with people (of all races) being TOO sensitive?

[JMT]

So you think he HATES people with DS because he used the slang 'retard' in a conversation?




No.

But people that are comfortable tossing off a derogatory term based on something beyond someone's control (their DNA) in casual conversation are likely candidates to defend that behavior in others.

Or they're just too stupid to have mastered a sufficient vocabulary so they can make better choices.

You rant over and over that the word is acceptable because of the "double standard" (ie blacks use the word).

Do you also believe that developmentally disabled people use epithets to refer to those who are not? Is that why that word is ok?

[Hittin_Shots]

Its different though Irish people were singled out for slavery the way africans were.

You say it's different then you say it's the same?

[OldSkoolball#52]

You say it's different then you say it's the same?


Sounds like a love song lyric.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Do you also believe that developmentally disabled people use epithets to refer to those who are not? Is that why that word is ok?


Do I believe they actually do it? Of course not.
Would I care if they did? No. Ive got better things to do.

If you find the word retard distasteful in conversation, thats fine. In fact I agree with you and I try to avoid it myself altho its an old habit and sometimes I slip. We all have our own preferences and opinions. What I hate is people like you who always want to instantly turn political incorrectness or off-color commentary into mountains from mole hills. You want to get up on your soap box so everyone can see you, you think youll be admired by others for being loudly sensitive, Mr Defender, Captain Approrpriate. That shit is corny as the d1ckens my dude. People who turn insignificant side comments into big referendums on whats appropriate and righteous and yadda yadda yadda, you just want attention. Youre basically trying to show off that youre so advanced you not only dont use the word n*gger, but YOU dont even use the word retard! Ooohh, we're all agog! Youre real proud of yourself for being Captain Tolerant and you want the worlds approval for it. Why dont u just get a life instead.

[Hittin_Shots]

Sounds like a love song lyric.

Are you coming onto me?

[OldSkoolball#52]

Are you coming onto me?

Coming onto you? No..



Im coming INSIDE of you.




Now take it like the n*gger sp*ck ch*nk f*ggot cr*cker r*dskin t*welhead d*go g*nger sex machine that you are.

[ihoopallday]

This is the main reason athletes shouldn't get drunk in public. They go out and do stupid shit like this. Now, the guys career is probably over. Millions lost. All because he decided to get drunk in public. Now if it's your average person like us, then who gives a ****. I've been called ****** a couple of times throughout my life. I just laughed and walked away.

[OldSkoolball#52]

This is the main reason athletes shouldn't get drunk in public. They go out and do stupid shit like this. Now, the guys career is probably over. Millions lost. All because he decided to get drunk in public. Now if it's your average person like us, then who gives a ****. I've been called ****** a couple of times throughout my life. I just laughed and walked away.


I dont think he'll lose money bc hes still gonna get to play, this will blow over and once hes up for his next contract someone will pay him whatever his value is based on production. Its not like this guy had any endorsements to lose. Hes an ok player but hes not a star. Ultimately the consequences for him is just a lot of awkwardness in the near future, and the team fine that came as a direct result of this.

[Hittin_Shots]

Coming onto you? No..



Im coming INSIDE of you.




Now take it like the g*nger sex machine that you are.

Strange

[JMT]

Do I believe they actually do it? Of course not.
Would I care if they did? No. Ive got better things to do.

If you find the word retard distasteful in conversation, thats fine. In fact I agree with you and I try to avoid it myself altho its an old habit and sometimes I slip. We all have our own preferences and opinions. What I hate is people like you who always want to instantly turn political incorrectness or off-color commentary into mountains from mole hills. You want to get up on your soap box so everyone can see you, you think youll be admired by others for being loudly sensitive, Mr Defender, Captain Approrpriate. That shit is corny as the d1ckens my dude. People who turn insignificant side comments into big referendums on whats appropriate and righteous and yadda yadda yadda, you just want attention. Youre basically trying to show off that youre so advanced you not only dont use the word n*gger, but YOU dont even use the word retard! Ooohh, we're all agog! Youre real proud of yourself for being Captain Tolerant and you want the worlds approval for it. Why dont u just get a life instead.

But you obviously do care, as it's the "double standard" you keep whining about makes those words acceptable. Absent that, why would you use them, even if it's just "slipping back into old habits"? Are you just that uneducated or lacking in basic communication skills?

It's funny that I'm "Mr Defender", yet all my interaction with you is because you felt it was your role to defend another posters use of a derogatory term, and to throw some at me in the process. I hope they thank you for your intervention.

You post paragraph after ill-written paragraph in this topic, but my comment that it was "interesting that someone used that word so comfortably" is over-the-top calling attention to myself?

Gotcha.

[RoTM]

Even if we took a hypothetical leap and assumed this guy was flaming racist how does a suspension or a fine prove anything other than society can exert pressure on those with power over him.

If they actually did a players meeting or whatever it seems they can handle among themselves the correct way without the rest of Americas help.

[-p.tiddy-]

But you obviously do care, as it's the "double standard" you keep whining about makes those words acceptable. Absent that, why would you use them, even if it's just "slipping back into old habits"? Are you just that uneducated or lacking in basic communication skills?

It's funny that I'm "Mr Defender", yet all my interaction with you is because you felt it was your role to defend another posters use of a derogatory term, and to throw some at me in the process. I hope they thank you for your intervention.

You post paragraph after ill-written paragraph in this topic, but my comment that it was "interesting that someone used that word so comfortably" is over-the-top calling attention to myself?

Gotcha.
Do you really think I have something against mentally disabled people?

Why are you picking this fight? It isn't comparable to Coopers racist rant at all.

[Scholar]

Umm... Damn, that's some racist shit. I don't get how someone who plays a sport that's dominated by blacks can be racist like that. I expect this guy to be getting tackled hard every game. Time to start watching Eagles' games to see how badly he'll be getting f*cked up.

[RoTM]

Umm... Damn, that's some racist shit. I don't get how someone who plays a sport that's dominated by blacks can be racist like that. I expect this guy to be getting tackled hard every game. Time to start watching Eagles' games to see how badly he'll be getting f*cked up.

this reminds of something I've heard about professional wrestling like the WWE. That it requires a lot of trust and professionalism to allow someone to have control of your body, where they could hurt you if they wanted to with every move.

That makes me wonder how it can be such a casual of thing in the NFL to throw around carrying out premeditated injury on someone. Even bounty gate was considered something internal to the NFL when in a strict sense it constituted criminal assault like the distance between the tunnel and the field is somehow another legal jurisdiction.

[GOBB]

Umm... Damn, that's some racist shit. I don't get how someone who plays a sport that's dominated by blacks can be racist like that. I expect this guy to be getting tackled hard every game. Time to start watching Eagles' games to see how badly he'll be getting f*cked up.

I dont even know if I would call Riley racist. With alcohol in his system and him being told he cant go backstage because he is one of those self entitled athletes (probably). He took the harshest insult to sling as his defense. Lets face it some athletes and even celebs feel they should get special treatment even if they are Riley Coopers of the world. Black security guard denied this guy who probably cut in line all his life and he reacted by saying something f*cked up.

Calling a female a b!tch or c*nt is about as harsh as you can get. I compare his use of the word to that. To enrage the person he was trying to insult. Terrible choice of words no doubt. But to say he is racist now? Nah, not unless stuff gets revealed he indeed holds blacks in a different light. And no one has stepped forward by saying "Not shocked at Cooper". Gotta give him the benefit of the doubt here.

He manned up and apologize. To me it came across sincere.

[JMT]

Do you really think I have something against mentally disabled people?

Why are you picking this fight? It isn't comparable to Coopers racist rant at all.

I have no idea what or whom you harbor animosity toward.

I just thought it interesting that in a discussion about the casual use of epithets directed toward a person's genetic makeup, you find that word so easy to use over and over.

Your notion that the two words aren't at all comparable explains it.

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I have no idea what or whom you harbor animosity toward.

I just thought it interesting that in a discussion about the casual use of epithets directed toward a person's genetic makeup, you find that word so easy to use over and over.

Your notion that the two words aren't at all comparable explains it.
They aren't comparable and common sense should tell you I harbor no ill feelings toward mentally handicapped peeps

Its very comparable to you calling people stupid or uneducated though

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If they actually did a players meeting or whatever it seems they can handle among themselves the correct way without the rest of Americas help.

This is what needed to happen. Screw all this teammates in the media saying their thoughts. As far as counseling, professionals if it deals with anger management? Great. Nothing wrong with that. But the team captain should have held a meeting with players and an open dialogue should have taken place. Not talkin Riley apologizing and thats it. Each member of the team should express how they feel/felt. And a discussion should form. Thats what team captains are for no? I guess if Riley Cooper were Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson everything wouldnt be as bad as it is now. Afterall Riley really hasnt played much since entering the NFL. If he were a productive talent guys would be more forgiving.

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They aren't comparable and common sense should tell you I harbor no ill feelings toward mentally handicapped peeps

Its very comparable to you calling people stupid or uneducated though


The fact that both are insults derived solely from a person's genetic makeup make them very comparable.

And when you so freely throw around the word as an insult, why would common sense lead me to believe that you harbor no ill will? In fact, common sense would more likely indicate that you do, as you chose it as an appropriate word to display your ill will toward Marcus Vick.

Stupid and/or uneducated can in many cases be changed.

Being of a certain race or being developmentally disabled can not.