Michael Jordan Obsession is ruining the game

[thabisyo]

Every now and then you come across articles written by fans that evoke emotions within you. This one, was brilliantly written. Have a look at it.

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LeBron James is having one of the greatest seasons in NBA history, with regular season averages of 27.1 points, 7.9 rebounds and 6.2 assists per game, and postseason averages of 30.8 points, 9.5 rebounds and 5.1 assists per game.

In spite of that, it seems like LeBron just can't catch a break and get the respect he deserves from fans, analysts and experts of the game.

In just nine years in the NBA, LeBron has won three NBA MVP awards, he's led his teams to three NBA Finals appearances and only missed one NBA All-Star game.

Sure, the "Chosen One" doesn't have a ring and has missed a clutch shot or two, but since when is that all we focus on when we are assessing greatness?

The time when we started ranking players based on rings and game-winning shots was the moment that Michael Jordan decided to call it quits and hang up his laces with the Chicago Bulls back in 1998.

The moment when Jordan left the game, we stopped assessing greatness on an individual basis and started to compare every player and his level of achievement to the greatness known as Michael Jordan.

It's not Jordan's fault that he won 10 scoring titles, six NBA championships, six NBA Finals MVPs, five NBA MVPs and hit an insane amount of game-winning shots.

It's our fault for valuing his performance and his greatness so much that all we care about is trying to figure out which player is going to be the next Jordan.
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Instead of wanting LeBron to be the next Jordan or the next "great one," we need to just appreciate the player he is and value the unique, rare and immense talent he has.

Before Jordan changed the game, greatness was assessed on a truly individual level.

Magic Johnson was great because he changed the point guard position forever. Larry Bird was great because he played the game with intensity and pure scoring ability like never before.

Oscar Robertson was great because of the complete way he played the game. Bill Russell was great because of the dominance on the defensive side of the ball and his ability to out-rebound every man on the court.

I could go on and on about what made/makes players great, but the point is, before Jordan, players' abilities weren't evaluated based on a comparison to one player who was considered the pinnacle of greatness.

Players were evaluated based on what they brought to the game and the way their play impacted the game as a whole.

I know that kind of conversation is a massive generalization, but the way we compare every elite player in the NBA to Jordan isn't fair to the players, and it certainly isn't fair to the legacy of the game.

The Jordan comparison that we all fall into isn't fair either to the legacy that LeBron is going to leave once he's done playing basketball.
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It's fine if you don't like the fact that LeBron chose to leave Cleveland and take his talents to South Beach

[juju151111]

Every now and then you come across articles written by fans that evoke emotions within you. This one, was brilliantly written. Have a look at it.



My points:
1. Jordan is overrated. He is amongst the GOAT's but overrated
2. Kobe is obsessing over 6 rings, Like 6 rings makes you a GOAT
3. Jordan used to get off easily thanks to Pippen defense on Magic, Bird, Barkley and other greats
4. If Lebron played in the day, MJ wouldnt, couldnt Guard Lebron. He is too big, too strong and too fast
5. Gary Payton was another too fast guy he couldn't shut down
6. Lebron is not Michael Jordan but he is a better player and person. MJ was/is a certified Asshole.
7. MJ had rules changed so he could get things easier. Detroit and Knicks had to be softer else, he will whine to the league like he always did
U entire post is retarded.

[andgar923]

So it's nothing but Bron fans complaining that he can't live up to MJ's standards, yet somehow Bron is superior :biggums:

[VIntageNOvel]

MJ, Y U SET THE BAR SO HIGH :cry: :cry:

[thabisyo]

So it's nothing but Bron fans complaining that he can't live up to MJ's standards, yet somehow Bron is superior :biggums:


MJ, Y U SET THE BAR SO HIGH :cry: :cry:

No. it is MJ stans being silly. any stan can whine about something specific about their favorite player.
MJ could never dominate like shaq but no one brings that up cause shaq got no stans. MJ stans got double standards but ignore guys with more rings to suit their agenda

[Fudge]

:roll:

MJ DA GOAT, DEAL WID IT.

[chazzy]

The 4th month of the two thousand and thirteenth year anno domini

[fiddy]

Apr 2013

[thabisyo]

:roll:

MJ DA GOAT, DEAL WID IT.

Goat manufactured by ESPN :applause:

[Fudge]

Y Ain't U Dealin Wid It

[SamuraiSWISH]

MJ, Y U SET THE BAR SO HIGH :cry: :cry:
Basically. They mad. They bitter.

[thabisyo]

Y Ain't U Dealin Wid It

MJ being a bish as usual, second biggest cry baby after kobe
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[Fudge]

Still waiting for you to deal wid it doe...

[poido123]

Goat manufactured by ESPN :applause:

Lebron "The decision" :lol

[thabisyo]

Still waiting for you to deal wid it doe...

got nothing else to say ? :lol

What did I expect from you :hammerhead:

[Fudge]

got nothing else to say ? :lol

What did I expect from you :hammerhead:
:roll:

Still haven't dealt wid it. Stahp crying breh.


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[Lakers2877]

Oh look another " boohoo please love my Bronnny Bron Bron " article/thread/whatever

This judging current against former is nothing new. It didn't start with Jordan. It started with the beginning of social media, message boards, twitter, etc.

This writer, like the op, are whiny babies

[diamenz]

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-flop-2.gif

[dh144498]

it's the retarded lebron d1ck riders like you and TonyMontana and a few others (dionysus and sillkeTheTroll), who are all probably the same person (RG), that constantly say 2 things that is ruining the greatness of Lebron James:

1. Discredit other legends, especially that of Michael Jordan.
2. Overrate Lebron and say that he is a better player than Michael Jordan, which he is not, at least not yet.

Lebron is an incredible player, who happens to have that great FG% the past couple of seasons due to him cherry picking shots, but his stans refuse to acknowledge that with their ***-covered faces. He's an incredible passer and a great finisher at the rim, but he lacks alot of scoring skills to make him a constant threat from everywhere on the floor. I won't even mention the intangibles that even further separate MJ and Lebron.

The point is: lebron stans are idiots.

[Asukal]

Just 2 years ago, Lebron stans were respectable fans, they don't make stupid statements about LBJ. Turns out they were just waiting for him to win a ring so they can transform to Kobe stan level. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[CHi1PriDe]

Just another lebron Stan who started watching the NBA when the heat won the chip :facepalm this is getting outta hand :facepalm

[CardiacKemba]

That article actually made some decent points. It didn't knock on either player. Stated a few facts and shared a perception. Most open minded people would probably agree with it.

However as soon as you OP then turned it into a MJ vs LeBron thread, or whined about Kobe, this thread and in turn that article lost all merit.

I don't mind a good comparison between players, and fans arguing over which player, which team is better. But when it ends up in childish arguments that LeBron is a flopper or Kobe is a whiner or whatever instead of staying open minded, it just ruins the point and fun of the debate. Appreciate all great players for what they are and what they've achieved.

[thabisyo]

That article actually made some decent points. It didn't knock on either player. Stated a few facts and shared a perception. Most open minded people would probably agree with it.

However as soon as you OP then turned it into a MJ vs LeBron thread, or whined about Kobe, this thread and in turn that article lost all merit.

I don't mind a good comparison between players, and fans arguing over which player, which team is better. But when it ends up in childish arguments that LeBron is a flopper or Kobe is a whiner or whatever instead of staying open minded, it just ruins the point and fun of the debate. Appreciate all great players for what they are and what they've achieved.

If I could rep, I would :applause:

[riseagainst]

it's the retarded lebron d1ck riders like you and TonyMontana and a few others (dionysus and sillkeTheTroll), who are all probably the same person (RG), that constantly say 2 things that is ruining the greatness of Lebron James:

1. Discredit other legends, especially that of Michael Jordan.
2. Overrate Lebron and say that he is a better player than Michael Jordan, which he is not, at least not yet.

Lebron is an incredible player, who happens to have that great FG% the past couple of seasons due to him cherry picking shots, but his stans refuse to acknowledge that with their ***-covered faces. He's an incredible passer and a great finisher at the rim, but he lacks alot of scoring skills to make him a constant threat from everywhere on the floor. I won't even mention the intangibles that even further separate MJ and Lebron.

The point is: lebron stans are idiots.

:applause:

[Trollsmasher]

Every now and then you come across article from 11/12 postseason and you post in in August '13...:lol

[OldSkoolball#52]

OP is correct.

These threads about "We won't know who is greater, Lebron or ____, since Lebron is still playing"

It's like, you're just waiting to do a "ring count" to make a comparison? Why not use your brain and compare two players by how they play? Lebron is at his peak (presumably). You can compare him to anyone who is at, or has already played at their peak. That is, if you have a brain.

[nathanjizzle]

jordans win percentage in the finals is like 80 percent and lebron is 45 percent. lebron isnt even winning most games in the finals yet :roll:

lebron isnt even close to jordan, stop comparing.

[Fresh Kid]

Your phagotry obsession for queen James iz ruining this forum.

[TheMan]

Every now and then you come across articles written by fans that evoke emotions within you. This one, was brilliantly written. Have a look at it.



My points:
1. Jordan is overrated. He is amongst the GOAT's but overrated
2. Kobe is obsessing over 6 rings, Like 6 rings makes you a GOAT
3. Jordan used to get off easily thanks to Pippen defense on Magic, Bird, Barkley and other greats
4. If Lebron played in the day, MJ wouldnt, couldnt Guard Lebron. He is too big, too strong and too fast
5. Gary Payton was another too fast guy he couldn't shut down
6. Lebron is not Michael Jordan but he is a better player and person. MJ was/is a certified Asshole.
7. MJ had rules changed so he could get things easier. Detroit and Knicks had to be softer else, he will whine to the league like he always did

Idiot

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[TheMan]

No. it is MJ stans being silly. any stan can whine about something specific about their favorite player.
MJ could never dominate like shaq but no one brings that up cause shaq got no stans. MJ stans got double standards but ignore guys with more rings to suit their agenda
MJ was more dominant for a longer period of time. Name one guy other than Russell that has more rings than Jordan that was clearly the main go to guy.

Kids today:rolleyes:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

jordans win percentage in the finals is like 80 percent and lebron is 45 percent. lebron isnt even winning most games in the finals yet :roll:

lebron isnt even close to jordan, stop comparing.

:facepalm

That's what happens when you skip school to work in McDonalds.

[thabisyo]

:facepalm

That's what happens when you skip school to work in McDonalds.

American education system :roll:

[riseagainst]

MJ's win% in the finals is ~69%.

lebron's is 45%

[Dro]

:roll:

MJ DA GOAT, DEAL WID IT.
This...

[Dro]

That article actually made some decent points. It didn't knock on either player. Stated a few facts and shared a perception. Most open minded people would probably agree with it.

However as soon as you OP then turned it into a MJ vs LeBron thread, or whined about Kobe, this thread and in turn that article lost all merit.

I don't mind a good comparison between players, and fans arguing over which player, which team is better. But when it ends up in childish arguments that LeBron is a flopper or Kobe is a whiner or whatever instead of staying open minded, it just ruins the point and fun of the debate. Appreciate all great players for what they are and what they've achieved.
And this...

[crisoner]

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[Real Men Wear Green]

1. Jordan is overrated. He is amongst the GOAT's but overratedKareem or Wilt may have had better careers but it's no lock. No one else is worth discussing.

2. Kobe is obsessing over 6 rings, Like 6 rings makes you a GOATHas it occurred to you that winning Championships is the ultimate goal of his job? He's supposed to be obsessed.

3. Jordan used to get off easily thanks to Pippen defense on Magic, Bird, Barkley and other greatsThis is stupid. Basketball is a team game, you're not winning anything if one guy must do everything.

4. If Lebron played in the day, MJ wouldnt, couldnt Guard Lebron. He is too big, too strong and too fastMJ could match his quickness and so he'd do as good a job as anyone. No one is shutting James down. But guess what? James isn't stopping MJ either.

5. Gary Payton was another too fast guy he couldn't shut downMJ was in his mid-30s and still won a ring so what does this matter?

6. Lebron is not Michael Jordan but he is a better player and person. MJ was/is a certified Asshole."Better player?" How? Jordan led his teams to tons of wins, won 6 rings, did whatever he wanted to on the court and was a better shooter in the clutch. "Better person?" You don't know either of them personally and what does that matter anyway? Neither knows nor cares about you.

7. MJ had rules changed so he could get things easier. Detroit and Knicks had to be softer else, he will whine to the league like he always didAnd now you're just posting random crap you know nothing about. MJ got some calls like every other superstar, big deal. If you want to go down this road we can post highlight reels of LeBron James flopping.

[Fudge]

So did OP ever deal wid it yet?

[Eric Cartman]

MJ is so good that it is unfair to compare Kobe and Lebron with him because they aren't in his category. Am I missing something else?

[TheMan]

So did OP ever deal wid it yet?
no

[TheMan]

MJ is so good that it is unfair to compare Kobe and Lebron with him because they aren't in his category. Am I missing something else?
no

[LALakerFan4Life]

http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/IFWT-Michael-Jordan.jpg

Greatest of all time. Deal with it. :bowdown: