How many series did Jordan win as underdog?

[livinglegend]

anyone know the answer.
And how many times did he comeback from almost losing the series ( down 1-3, 2-3, etc.)

[Soundwave]

Knicks '93 (down 0-2), Jazz '98 (down 0-1 without home court) come to mind, but generally if you're the best player in the world, you're not going into too many series' as a the underdog. The Cleveland series in 1988 for sure, even the Chicago media were saying the Bulls had no chance.

A lot of people picked Phoenix in '93 to win as well. They had the best record in the NBA and were the team of destiny, blah, blah, blah.

[Young X]

1989 - Took a terrible 47 win team with his 2nd and 3rd best players averaging 14 and 12 on 47% past a 57 win Cavs team and a 53 win Knicks team to game 6 of the ECF without homecourt advantage while averaging 37/8/8 on 53%. GOAT playoff run.

You could also argue:

'91 vs Lakers
'93 vs Suns
'98 vs Jazz

[SilkkTheShocker]

None. After the Lakers, Pistons, and celtics got old he had free reign to beat up on bunch of 6'2 guards on the way to titles :applause:

[TonyMontana]

The correct answer is none. Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah until their teams got old and the other teams became weaker due to expansion (such as the Jazz, the late 80s Jazz were better than any 90s Jazz team).

Jordan is like Kobe in that he wins because his teams are way more stacked. No other 90s team had two MVP caliber players (Jordan,Pippen,), the greatest coach of all-time(Phil Jackson 11 rings in 20 seasons), and Rodman(the greatest rebounder/defensive player ever) or Horace Grant (pereniel all D interior bigman).

Just like Kobe won only with the top frontcourt in the NBA(Kobe is a backcourt player so dont act like hes the reason that is), along with Phil Jackson.


The Cleveland series in 1988 for sure, even the Chicago media were saying the Bulls had no chance.


So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? Save your breath Jordan stan.

[Young X]

The correct answer is none. Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah until their teams got old and the other teams became weaker due to expansion (such as the Jazz, the late 80s Jazz were better than any 90s Jazz team).Can you please explain this:
1989 - Took a terrible 47 win team with his 2nd and 3rd best players averaging 14 and 12 on 47% past a 57 win Cavs team and a 53 win Knicks team to game 6 of the ECF without homecourt advantage while averaging 37/8/8 on 53%. GOAT playoff run.
47 win Bulls beat 57 win Cavs (because of MJ's series winning shot) without homecourt.
47 win Bulls beat 53 win Knicks without homecourt.

You f*ggots don't know about Jordan's career.

[Rooster]

anyone know the answer.
And how many times did he comeback from almost losing the series ( down 1-3, 2-3, etc.)

I'm pretty sure Vegas favored the Lakers against the Bulls on 1991 NBA Finals. Just can't remember the lines. And I remember the 0-2 comeback against the Knicks.

[Bandito]

The correct answer is none. Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah until their teams got old and the other teams became weaker due to expansion (such as the Jazz, the late 80s Jazz were better than any 90s Jazz team).

Jordan is like Kobe in that he wins because his teams are way more stacked. No other 90s team had two MVP caliber players (Jordan,Pippen,), the greatest coach of all-time(Phil Jackson 11 rings in 20 seasons), and Rodman(the greatest rebounder/defensive player ever) or Horace Grant (pereniel all D interior bigman).

Just like Kobe won only with the top frontcourt in the NBA(Kobe is a backcourt player so dont act like hes the reason that is), along with Phil Jackson.



So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? Save your breath Jordan stan. Wasn't didn't the Cavs won 57 times that year?

[niko]

He wasn't a favorite in every series he ever won. He just comes off as that historically because he shit on everyone so badly.

Are the Lebron fans trying to paint the fact that he has so much trouble closing out teams as a virtue because Jordan didn't have to? So if Lebron next year goes 4 series, never threatens, craps on everyone that's less impressive than struggling each round?

[sportjames23]

anyone know the answer.
And how many times did he comeback from almost losing the series ( down 1-3, 2-3, etc.)


Off the top of my head, he won as underdog against Cleveland and New York in 1989. Came back to win against the Lakers in 1991 (down 0-1), the Knicks in 1993 (down 0-2) and the Jazz in 1998 (down 0-1).

[Smoke117]

Knicks '93 (down 0-2), Jazz '98 (down 0-1 without home court) come to mind, but generally if you're the best player in the world, you're not going into too many series' as a the underdog. The Cleveland series in 1988 for sure, even the Chicago media were saying the Bulls had no chance.

A lot of people picked Phoenix in '93 to win as well. They had the best record in the NBA and were the team of destiny, blah, blah, blah.

Jordan was terrible in the 93 series vs the Knicks besides that 50 point game he had. That was Scottie's series. He made all the big shots and made all the big plays averaging 22ppg. Jordan shot terrible the entire series besides that huge 50 point game.

The first game they lost Jordan had 27 points on .370fg% 10/27. He took 27 shots to get his 27 points. Scottie Pippen was 8/19 with 24pts and .421%. Game two Jordan shot 12/32 for 36 points. Pippen gave up 17pts on 7/12fg. Game three Jordan was 3/18 for 22pts because he went to the line and made 16/17 fts. Scottie Pippen was 10/12 fg% of .833 and 8/10 from the ft line for 29 points. Game four was when MJ had 54 points. Game five he had 29 pts on 11/24 (.458) shooting while Scottie had 28 points on 12/23 ( .522%). On the series winning game six Jordan shot 8/24 for 25 points while pippen shot 9/18 for 24 points.

[TheWalkman]

So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? Save your breath Jordan stan.

The cavs were 57-25 that year and were heavily favored. At least get your "facts" straight, idiot. Either that or save your breath, Lebron stan. Tony you're starting to get exposed as not knowing sh!t about basketball.

[Sarcastic]

How many finals did Jordan lose?


How many times did Jordan lose in the playoffs with home court throughout?

[imdaman99]

how many times did jordan win finals least valuable player? lebron won it twice

[nightprowler10]

Hahaha, epic thread backfire.

[OldSchoolBBall]

'89 vs. Knicks
'89 vs. Cavs
'91 vs. Pistons
'91 vs. Lakers
'98 Jazz



Jordan was terrible in the 93 series vs the Knicks besides that 50 point game he had. That was Scottie's series. He made all the big shots and made all the big plays averaging 22ppg. Jordan shot terrible the entire series besides that huge 50 point game.

The first game they lost Jordan had 27 points on .370fg% 10/27. He took 27 shots to get his 27 points. Scottie Pippen was 8/19 with 24pts and .421%. Game two Jordan shot 12/32 for 36 points. Pippen gave up 17pts on 7/12fg. Game three Jordan was 3/18 for 22pts because he went to the line and made 16/17 fts. Scottie Pippen was 10/12 fg% of .833 and 8/10 from the ft line for 29 points. Game four was when MJ had 54 points. Game five he had 29 pts on 11/24 (.458) shooting while Scottie had 28 points on 12/23 ( .522%). On the series winning game six Jordan shot 8/24 for 25 points while pippen shot 9/18 for 24 points.

Wow, can we did this for all the series where Pippen shot like shit? Because that list is WAAAAY longer than the list for Jordan. And you of all people should know that players can contribute in other areas. Jordan was DOMINANT and game-changing defensively in that Knicks series, and had games of 9, 11, and 14 assists in addition to a triple double in one game.

[TheReal Kendall]

See these are troll threads.

Nikka just trying to big up Lebron with nonsense.

[veilside23]

Fact is Lebron will never be as good as MJ :)

6 Finals 6 Rings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AS THE MAIN MAN!
thats straight fact unlike others here pretending to be straight :D

[The Rock]

LEBRON WAS A UNDER DOG VS SPURS. SWEPT LIKE A DIRTY ABANDONED HOUSE THAT HIS MOM DID TRICKS IN WITH DELONTE FOR 6 PIECE CHICKEN NUGGETS:roll: :roll:

[Replay32]

That 89' playoff run was impressive.

[Marchesk]

Lebron Stans, best if you stick with going after Kobe. Jordan's pretty much untouchable. For you guys, anyway.

[livinglegend]

Hahaha, epic thread backfire.
:facepalm
I just asked a simple question. Getting an answer from a question = backfire?
Boozer!:coleman:

[livinglegend]

Lebron Stans, best if you stick with going after Kobe. Jordan's pretty much untouchable. For you guys, anyway.

I never mentioned Lebron. You are insecure and this is why you are bringing him.

[Just2McFly]

98 Jazz?:oldlol:

Bruh stop this

[funnystuff]

how many times did jordan win finals least valuable player? lebron won it twice
Link or it never happened.

[diamenz]

I never mentioned Lebron. You are insecure and this is why you are bringing him.

you're a known lebron stan. not as bad as tony and silkk, but you're still terrible.

[PickernRoller]

None. After the Lakers, Pistons, and celtics got old he had free reign to beat up on bunch of 6'2 guards on the way to titles :applause:

Sounds like Lebron...only thing is Lebron is worse.

[andgar923]

'89 vs. Knicks
'89 vs. Cavs
'91 vs. Pistons
'91 vs. Lakers
'98 Jazz



Wow, can we did this for all the series where Pippen shot like shit? Because that list is WAAAAY longer than the list for Jordan. And you of all people should know that players can contribute in other areas. Jordan was DOMINANT and game-changing defensively in that Knicks series, and had games of 9, 11, and 14 assists in addition to a triple double in one game.

"But

[guy]

Bulls being the favorites is up for debate depending on who you ask I guess. I don't have the vegas odds at the time, but these are series he won without HCA, which is usually most of the time is a good indicator of who was the favorites.

89' Cavs
89' Knicks
93' Knicks
93' Suns
95' Hornets
98' Jazz

For comparison's sake:

Lebron
07' Pistons
11' Bulls
12' Thunder

Kobe
01' Spurs
02' Kings
03' T-Wolves
04' Spurs
04' T-Wolves

Shaq
01' Spurs
02' Kings
03' T-Wolves
04' Spurs
04' T-Wolves
06' Pistons
06' Mavs

Duncan
05' Suns
07' Suns
08' Hornets
10' Mavs

Hakeem
86' Lakers
87' Blazers
95' Jazz
95' Suns
95' Spurs
95' Magic

Magic
82' Sixers
85' Celtics
91' Blazers

Bird
NONE

[Clifton]

He wasn't a favorite in every series he ever won. He just comes off as that historically because he shit on everyone so badly.
This.

[TheCorporation]

The correct answer is none. Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah until their teams got old and the other teams became weaker due to expansion (such as the Jazz, the late 80s Jazz were better than any 90s Jazz team).

Jordan is like Kobe in that he wins because his teams are way more stacked. No other 90s team had two MVP caliber players (Jordan,Pippen,), the greatest coach of all-time(Phil Jackson 11 rings in 20 seasons), and Rodman(the greatest rebounder/defensive player ever) or Horace Grant (pereniel all D interior bigman).

Just like Kobe won only with the top frontcourt in the NBA(Kobe is a backcourt player so dont act like hes the reason that is), along with Phil Jackson.



So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? Save your breath Jordan stan.'

Good god no lube or anything

[Manny98]

The correct answer is none. Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah until their teams got old and the other teams became weaker due to expansion (such as the Jazz, the late 80s Jazz were better than any 90s Jazz team).

Jordan is like Kobe in that he wins because his teams are way more stacked. No other 90s team had two MVP caliber players (Jordan,Pippen,), the greatest coach of all-time(Phil Jackson 11 rings in 20 seasons), and Rodman(the greatest rebounder/defensive player ever) or Horace Grant (pereniel all D interior bigman).

Just like Kobe won only with the top frontcourt in the NBA(Kobe is a backcourt player so dont act like hes the reason that is), along with Phil Jackson.



So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? Save your breath Jordan stan.
:applause:

[TheCorporation]

None. After the Lakers, Pistons, and celtics got old he had free reign to beat up on bunch of 6'2 guards on the way to titles :applause:


Damn...Silk knew all along :cry: :bowdown:

[Spurs m8]

Bron stans currently at an all time low.

Get used to it, Wheels....its only going to get worse from here....

Welcome to a real conference.

[LeCola]

Do you think it makes Jordan worse? Are you sure? He never beat as underdog because he never played a final as underdog. Because, his existence disallowed to be underdog. He is GOAT, how can a goat be underdog in Finals?

[Spurs m8]

Do you think it makes Jordan worse? Are you sure? He never beat as underdog because he never played a final as underdog. Because, his existence disallowed to be underdog. He is GOAT, how can a goat be underdog in Finals?

Exactly lol

These stans literally dig their own graves and dont realize til it's too late

[Elosha]

Damn...Silk knew all along :cry: :bowdown:

:rolleyes:

Silk the Shocker and Tony Montana ran away from ISH every year LeBron lost, which is so often they are practically never heard from again. They are part of ISH's wastelands, two of many MIA posters Lebron's lack of success has produced.

Quoting them really smacks of desperation. :cry:

[TheCorporation]

Do you think it makes Jordan worse? Are you sure? He never beat as underdog because he never played a final as underdog. Because, his existence disallowed to be underdog. He is GOAT, how can a goat be underdog in Finals?

Oh, so he's like Curry then since he's never been an underdog

Curry = Jordan

Got it...

Or do you finally get what we're saying?

[SamuraiSWISH]

[Mr Feeny]

Damn...Silk knew all along :cry: :bowdown:

Dude who's the hot chick in your avy?

[3ball]

Oh, so he's like Curry then since he's never been an underdog


Are you saying the objective is to be the underdog and achieving underdog status deserves more props than achieving favored status?

So losing more and being the underdog is better than winning and being the favorite?

Either way, lebron was never a 6 seed, so he was never an underdog like MJ heading into the 89' playoffs, where MJ almost made the Finals (he had 2 upset series wins in 89', while lebron never had more than 1 upset win in any run)

[TheCorporation]

Dude who's the hot chick in your avy?

My wife, AKA Adriana Lima :D

[TheCorporation]

Are you saying the objective is to be the underdog and achieving underdog status deserves more props than achieving favored status?

So losing more and being the underdog is better than winning and being the favorite?

Either way, lebron was never a 6 seed, so he was never an underdog like MJ heading into the 89' playoffs, where MJ almost made the Finals (he had 2 upset series wins in 89', while lebron never had more than 1 upset win in any run)
I think the very small and simple point you cannot seem to grasp is that Curry and Jordan were always on the stacked team. Can we penalize for them that? No.

But it is a matter of fact that they always were on the Stacked team. They were supposed to win.

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]

[jstern]

1989 - Took a terrible 47 win team with his 2nd and 3rd best players averaging 14 and 12 on 47% past a 57 win Cavs team and a 53 win Knicks team to game 6 of the ECF without homecourt advantage while averaging 37/8/8 on 53%. GOAT playoff run.

You could also argue:

'91 vs Lakers
'93 vs Suns
'98 vs Jazz

Plus he's something like 24 for 24 as the favorite. GOAT. Very impressive.

Not many all time greats can say that. For example Lebron lost to Dwight Howard despite being MVP of the league, and on a 66 win team. And the following year lost to a 50 wins Celtic teams.

So that 24 for 24, or whatever it is, is pretty impressive.

What happened to TonyMontana? Did he leave because he got embarrassed in this thread?

[LeCola]

Oh, so he's like Curry then since he's never been an underdog

Curry = Jordan

Got it...

Or do you finally get what we're saying?

Labradors are dogs, right? Does it mean all dogs are labradors?

When GOAT plays in Finals, it makes his team top dog. It does not mean leader of a regular top dog team is GOAT.

I used "existance of GOAT in Finals" as a cause, but you used it as a result. There is no relation between what i am saying and what you are. It is like Labradors-Dogs...

Also with your logic possible GOAT candidates are Lebron, Dirk and Billups.:oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

I think the very small and simple point you cannot seem to grasp is that Curry and Jordan were always on the stacked team. Can we penalize for them that? No.

But it is a matter of fact that they always were on the Stacked team. They were supposed to win.

Body bag :eek:

[LAmbruh]

The correct answer is none. Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah until their teams got old and the other teams became weaker due to expansion (such as the Jazz, the late 80s Jazz were better than any 90s Jazz team).

Jordan is like Kobe in that he wins because his teams are way more stacked. No other 90s team had two MVP caliber players (Jordan,Pippen,), the greatest coach of all-time(Phil Jackson 11 rings in 20 seasons), and Rodman(the greatest rebounder/defensive player ever) or Horace Grant (pereniel all D interior bigman).

Just like Kobe won only with the top frontcourt in the NBA(Kobe is a backcourt player so dont act like hes the reason that is), along with Phil Jackson.



So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? Save your breath Jordan stan.
:applause: :oldlol:

[3ball]

MJ never won as an underdog



2007 CLE:.. #7 SRS.. 50 wins.. 2 seed
2007 tDET:. #6 SRS.. 53 wins.. 1 seed

1989 Bulls:. #10 SRS.. 47 wins.. 6 seed
1989 Cavs:. n#1 SRS.. 57 wins.. 3 seed


MJ had the bigger upset





So not one person had the 50-32 Michael Jordan Bulls beating the 42-40 Cavaliers? Save your breath Jordan stan.



Cavs won 57 games in 1989 with the #1 SRS, and everyone picked them to win:



There were 3 reporters travelling with the team and each of us picked the Cavs to win the series. MJ looks at the first reporter who predicted a sweep and said "we took care of you already".. then he looks at the 2nd reporter and says "we took care of you".. and he looks at me and says "tonight, we take care of you"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBZH4nICAE4&t=17m23s





Jordan was a *** dumpster for Magic, Larry, Isiah until their teams got old


Isiah/Dumars/Rodman were only 29/27/28 when MJ beat them in 91'

KG/Pierce/Allen were 35/34/36 when lebron beat them in 12'

Duncan/Manu/Parker were 36/35/31 when lebron beat them in 13'


But carry on being wrong - your post was long and there's many more errors to correct





Jordan is like Kobe in that he wins because his teams are way more stacked. No other 90s team had two MVP caliber players (Jordan,Pippen,),


Stockton/Malone both rank ahead (http://i67.tinypic.com/dbntvp.jpg) of Pippen - Stockton had 12 MVP award shares to Pippen's 5, and Malone was the MVP twice

Also - all-nba Worthy was ranked ahead of pippen in 91'

Schrempf, Payton, Kemp, and Hersey Hawkins all severely outplayed Pippen in 96' Finals

96' Penny > Pippen


Just to name a few





Rodman(the greatest rebounder/defensive player ever) or Horace Grant (pereniel all D interior bigman).


Not in 1997 or 1998, when the 36 year-old averaged 4/8 for the entire 97' playoffs, and wasn't even the starter in the 98' playoffs (MJ won the 98' ring with kukoc at PF and hobbled Pippen)

And Horace Grant was a 12/9 role player and simple play-finisher/dunker - made one 2nd team defense alongside MJ.. a role player that every team has.. a 1-time all-star versus Bosh's 11 all-star games





The greatest coach of all-time(Phil Jackson 11 rings in 20 seasons)


MJ was the goat candidate in 1990, not Phil

Phil was a 1st time, nobody coach and was still nobody when MJ won with him in 91'...

so don't overrate Phil - Phil simply coached the best talent ever (3 top 10 players - the most of any coach)

And nothing changed when Phil took over in 1990 - he lost the ECF just like Collins lost in 1989... The real difference was that Pippen went from doormat to all-star...

indeed, the one-time Jeanie fling and current Knicks' nightmare simply had great timing, not the Midas touch.. he joined goat players as they were literally peaking.. the triangle failed many times and only worked with top 10 players
.

[SpaceJam2]

Danger, 3ball :eek: