Yao Ming dominates Dwight Howard

[kNicKz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFppQfs75Ro

[Psycho]

Just goes to show that genetic differences in intelligence go a long way. It's not Dwight's fault, but he is what he is.

[Beatlezz]

http://oi40.tinypic.com/11uahdt.jpg

:applause:

[OldSkoolball#52]

:rockon:


The game misses Yao

[Marchesk]

Makes you wonder what Wilt would have done to Dwight.

[LAZERUSS]

Makes you wonder what Wilt would have done to Dwight.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[jzek]

if yao ming were not 7'6" d12 would have raped him

[SilkkTheShocker]

if yao ming were not 7'6" d12 would have raped him


Great logic, Corky :applause:

[OldSkoolball#52]

also, prime Yao >>>>>> Melo

[BoutPractice]

Yao Ming never got his due because people thought he could be even better than he was... but despite not living up to the unrealistic expectations some placed in him, he was still the best center in the league in both 2007 and 2008, and a good second in 2006 and 2009. He'll be remembered as the transitional dominant center between Shaq and Dwight.

[Marchesk]

also, prime Yao >>>>>> Melo

lol, but who would win 1 on 1?

[asdf1990]

imagine yao in the 60s against 5 foot players 200 ppg 70 rpg 50 bpg

[riseagainst]

yaoch..

Yes, prime Yao > Dwight ever was.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFppQfs75Ro

was so excited to have Dwight Howard after the trade...

watching him play was another story.....
has ZERO post moves....
Turns the ball over like its hot potato
doesnt give any heart if he doesnt like the coach
spreads bad energy to the entire team...like a rotten apple

he is a defensive beast but he wants to be an offensive beast...his mind is not right...Bill Russell was never an offensive force...his bread/butter came on defensive side....

Dwight in right mindset can dominate the league...but does he have the right mindset?

[inclinerator]

if yao ming were not 7'6" d12 would have raped him
thats why shawn bradley dominated shaq

[retaxis]

If yao maintained his peak and had superstars surrounding him....what could have been...maybe a championship

[deja vu]

if yao ming were not 7'6" d12 would have raped him
That's retarded logic, you can't take away someone's height. :lol

If Dwight was half a foot shorter would he be dominant? Or Shaq?

[BoutPractice]

It's also interesting to note his numbers against Shaq, a player often called the most dominant center ever:
18.6 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists and 1.5 blocks on 47% (and 89% FT) shooting for Yao versus 23 points, 9.6 rebounds, 2 assists and 2.5 blocks on 55% (56% FT) shooting for O'Neal.

O'Neal had better stats overall, but Yao more than held his own and didn't allow Shaq to dominate like he did against other centers. Besides, the number are skewed in that they include Yao's rookie season.

The most interesting years, though the sample size isn't that large, are 2005, when Yao was coming into his own and Shaq an MVP candidate, and 2007, when Yao had his best year in the league and Shaq, although in a down year, about as relevant as Yao himself was in 2005.

In 2004-2005, Yao had 22 and 9, and Shaq 15 and 5, in the first game. In the second game Yao had 12 and 9 and Shaq 23 and 16. So an average of 16 and 9 for Yao, and 19 and 10.5 for Shaq. Advantage Shaq, but remember, he was only in his third year and Shaq still in MVP form.

In 2006-2007, Yao had 34 and 14, and Shaq 15 and 10 in the first game. In the second game Yao had 20 and 7, and Shaq 26 and 14, continuing the pattern of Yao dominating the first and Shaq the second encounter. The averages are 27 and 10.5 for Yao, and 20.5 and 12 for Shaq. Advantage Yao, but this time it was Yao having an MVP like season while Shaq was declining.

Yao and Shaq unfortunately didn't play any games against each other in 2005-2006, which was the year where the comparison would have been most relevant.

Still, the overall picture is clear: Yao, who dominated Dwight in their head-to-head matchups, was also a very worthy opponent for Shaq. Having played both, he's a fascinating "bridge" between two center eras in the NBA.

[ripthekik]

Yao Ming never got his due because people thought he could be even better than he was... but despite not living up to the unrealistic expectations some placed in him, he was still the best center in the league in both 2007 and 2008, and a good second in 2006 and 2009. He'll be remembered as the transitional dominant center between Shaq and Dwight.
Um.. why does dwight get his own spot and era? He's a pos with no post moves. He'll never be an all time great. Even if he wins a ring, he'll probably be the second best player on that team. He's just not a leader.

Yao Ming >>>>>> Dwight in his prime

[retaxis]

Yao ming could actually shoot and hit free throws at a 80+ %. Lets not compare the difference between the shooting and moves. Dwight is better at rebounding no doubt but other then that...NO

[MavsSuperFan]

D12 is massively overrated. The American big man is nothing compared to what it was in the 90s and early 2000s.

2012 olympics fricken gasol was unstoppable for a stretch. You think he could have done that against Robinson?

Edit: D12 is the best big man today by default more than anything else.

Lakers imo got lucky that they arent going to build around howard.

[DuMa]

If Yao didnt get hurt in 2009. We could have had a Dwight Yao NBA Finals.

[ChuckOakley]

Hopefully Dwight can lead the Rockets out of the 1st round since Yao never could other than 1 season before getting injured (surprise)

I also don't know why it's impressive that a player that was much more experienced was able to "dominate" a much younger and less experienced player.

Either way, I'm expecting Dwight to get at least 1 title the next few years which Yao never would have been able to do since his body never could have held up. Yao was a great regular season player, but he couldn't be trusted to help you in playoffs. Playoffs are what matter and thus Yao was rather irrelevant and a disappointment in the grand scheme of things.

Such a dumb topic that is brought up every 6 months by Yao fans and Dwight haters. Sad that this is what his fans have to resort to.

[9erempiree]

if yao ming were not 7'6" d12 would have raped him

I saw Yao in that video stripping and stealing the ball from Howard and it doesn't have anything to do with height.

Yao owns Dwight.

[rezznor]

if yao ming were not 7'6" d12 would have raped him
if your aunt had a p3nis she would have been your uncle

[ChuckOakley]

I saw Yao in that video stripping and stealing the ball from Howard and it doesn't have anything to do with height.

Yao owns Dwight.
Owned - past tense.
One player is still playing and is just entering his absolute prime (still 27), while the other player was in his prime and peaked very early on.

[selrahc]

yao is being way overrated just because he is chinese like jeremy lin was overrated. that being said, dwight howard is a total scrub who has no post moves at all and should barely even be a starter in the nba.

[bluechox2]

it looks like nothing has changed with dwight

[It's A VC3!!!]

Yao made Dwight look so soft. It says that Dwight averaged 12 ppg in head-to-head match-ups. What it didn't say is that 10 of those points where when Yao was on the bench.

[Marchesk]

if your aunt had a p3nis she would have been your uncle

Not necessarily. She could be a hemaphrodite. Or got a sex change.

[TheBigVeto]

:rockon:


The game misses Yao

Yup. Dwight was his bitch.
Kobe was scared of Yao he had to injure him.

[ripthekik]

Yao made Dwight look so soft. It says that Dwight averaged 12 ppg in head-to-head match-ups. What it didn't say is that 10 of those points where when Yao was on the bench.
:oldlol:

dwight is an useless center. Hopefully he gets exposed again this year without the injury excuse, then the rockets have a good team..

[RRR3]

:oldlol:

dwight is an useless center. Hopefully he gets exposed again this year without the injury excuse, then the rockets have a good team..
He's so useless he'll be a first ballot hall of famer.

[MavsSuperFan]

He's so useless he'll be a first ballot hall of famer.
would you honestly want to build a team around dwight?

I think he could be a good role player, but no way do I want him to be the cornerstone of my franchise. The lakers got lucky he left. The worst possible result would have been building around dwight.

Also to be fair the NBA hall of fame has lower standards than cooperstown or canton.

Baseball HOF > NFL HOF >>NBA HOF

[HorryIsMyMVP]

If Dwight was 5'7 he would homeless.

[andgar923]

if yao ming were not 7'6" d12 would have raped him

And if Dwight wasn't athletic he wouldn't even be in the league.

[kNicKz]

If Dwight was 5'7 he would homeless.

You could say that about just about every player in the league though barring kryptonate

[deja vu]

He's so useless he'll be a first ballot hall of famer.
Put him in the 80s and 90s he wouldn't sniff the HOF.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Makes you wonder what Wilt would have done to Dwight.

Not really. It's kind of irrelevant actually.


Yao Ming never got his due because people thought he could be even better than he was... but despite not living up to the unrealistic expectations some placed in him, he was still the best center in the league in both 2007 and 2008, and a good second in 2006 and 2009. He'll be remembered as the transitional dominant center between Shaq and Dwight.

Funny enough, but I didn't buy into the Yao hype initially, but he actually was living up to the hype early in the '06-'07 season and truly looking like a dominant player. One of the early MVP candidates prior to the freak injury vs the Clippers in late December, and those first 2 months of that season, I'm not sure anyone was playing better. Really a rare talent because of his freakish height combined with such a great shooting touch. His jump hook and turnaround were almost impossible to block, and he had gotten stronger and was using that strength inside which was devastating for opponents because he was an 85+% foul shooter. Plus, while Yao seemed slow compared to other players, he was unusually mobile for his height.


It's also interesting to note his numbers against Shaq, a player often called the most dominant center ever:
18.6 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists and 1.5 blocks on 47% (and 89% FT) shooting for Yao versus 23 points, 9.6 rebounds, 2 assists and 2.5 blocks on 55% (56% FT) shooting for O'Neal.

O'Neal had better stats overall, but Yao more than held his own and didn't allow Shaq to dominate like he did against other centers. Besides, the number are skewed in that they include Yao's rookie season.

The most interesting years, though the sample size isn't that large, are 2005, when Yao was coming into his own and Shaq an MVP candidate, and 2007, when Yao had his best year in the league and Shaq, although in a down year, about as relevant as Yao himself was in 2005.

In 2004-2005, Yao had 22 and 9, and Shaq 15 and 5, in the first game. In the second game Yao had 12 and 9 and Shaq 23 and 16. So an average of 16 and 9 for Yao, and 19 and 10.5 for Shaq. Advantage Shaq, but remember, he was only in his third year and Shaq still in MVP form.

In 2006-2007, Yao had 34 and 14, and Shaq 15 and 10 in the first game. In the second game Yao had 20 and 7, and Shaq 26 and 14, continuing the pattern of Yao dominating the first and Shaq the second encounter. The averages are 27 and 10.5 for Yao, and 20.5 and 12 for Shaq. Advantage Yao, but this time it was Yao having an MVP like season while Shaq was declining.

Yao and Shaq unfortunately didn't play any games against each other in 2005-2006, which was the year where the comparison would have been most relevant.

Still, the overall picture is clear: Yao, who dominated Dwight in their head-to-head matchups, was also a very worthy opponent for Shaq. Having played both, he's a fascinating "bridge" between two center eras in the NBA.

True, I remember being very impressed and surprised with how well Yao played against Shaq in the '03-'04 season. I didn't see the early season '06-'07 game where Yao dominated Shaq, but I remember reading about it the next morning and it seemed to be a "passing of the torch" at the time.

Would have been very interesting to have seen Yao truly entire his prime and continue the development he was showing in '06-'07 vs prime Shaq. Unfortunately, Shaq was at the end of his prime when Yao was a rookie, and was well into his decline by the time Yao appeared to be entering his prime.

'08-'09 season had a couple of good match ups between the centers, though. Yao was playing very well and an established player at the time, while Shaq had somewhat of a resurgence that year.

[razzredazzre]

wonder how Yao would've panned out if he was born in the U.S.

[protox]

wonder how Yao would've panned out if he was born in the U.S.

I think he'd still be playing at the least. Shame that he pretty much had to play ball year round.

[SCdac]

wonder how Yao would've panned out if he was born in the U.S.

Would he have been as tall is the question, if he had been an average American-born Chinese baby. 7'6 is freakish and highly abnormal.

There's been an ongoing rumor for years that the Chinese government coerced Yao Ming's parents (tall athletes) to have a child. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

No denying the skill Yao harnessed, though. I think at his prime he was definitely more skilled than Dwight.

[jzek]

Of course a 7'6" player dominated a 6'10" player... it's why Wilt dominated in his era.

Would anyone be amazed if Magic Johnson dominated Muggsy Bogues? Same thing here - one is taller than the other and height is the biggest factor for "domination" in these two cases...

[Eric Cartman]

Of course a 7'6" player dominated a 6'10" player... it's why Wilt dominated in his era.

Would anyone be amazed if Magic Johnson dominated Muggsy Bogues? Same thing here - one is taller than the other and height is the biggest factor for "domination" in these two cases...

Another example: Lebron owning Jason Terry in the '11 Finals.

[jzek]

Who would have thought that if you were several inches taller than your defender and had even the slightest amount of offensive moves in your skillset then you could "dominate" your much shorter defender by just shooting over him repeatedly?

WOW!!! :eek: