World Basketball Club Championship Officially Starts - NBA Refused To Take Part

[Euroleague]

YEARS ago, FIBA World, all the FIBA regional zones, the NBL league of Oceania, the CBA league of China, the FIBA AfroBasket league, the FIBA Americas league, the FIBA Asia Champions league, and the Euroleague agreed to play a world club championship.

However, the NBA, despite numerous invites and even offers of $10 million to join in, REFUSED to take part in it. Because the NBA refused to play (Miami Heat, or the "North American League Champions" would be the team representing the NBA currently for instance), and instead only offered the NBA D-League champions to play, the Euroleague then refused to play, meaning the champions of Europe's first tier Euroleague and 2nd tier Eurocup (also run by the Euroleague) would not play.

So, FIBA Europe could only offer the champions of the 3rd tier European competition EuroChallenge (league Deron Williams played in), which is something like the 12th-15th best basketball league in Europe.

So....................the tournament was finally cancelled because no one had any interest in it. For YEARS FIBA and Euroleague tried to get it going, asking the NBA EVERY YEAR to participate in it and start it up. But the NBA refused every year.

Finally, FIBA and the Euroleague have said to hell with the NBA, and are going to start it on their own without the NBA. They have decided to reorganize the old William Jones FIBA Intercontinental Cup of Clubs.

The new FIBA World Cup for Clubs has been created and joined in the agreement are FIBA World, FIBA Americas, FIBA Europe, the FIBA Americas League, and the Euroleague.

The new World Clubs Cup will start this October. The champions of Latin America, Pinheiros Sky Sao Paulo, Brazil, will play against the champions of Europe, Olympiacos Piraeus, Greece, in a two-legged series that will take place in Sao Paulo, Brazil, at the home of Pinheiros, to make the games more competitive.

The games will take place here:

16,000 capacity:

http://f.i.uol.com.br/folha/esporte/images/11136303.jpeg

More teams will be invited in the future, if this is successful, like teams from the NBL ("Oceania League Champions") or the FIBA Asian Champions Cup ("Asian Club Champions") for example. They are starting with the champions of the FIBA Americas League ("Latin American Champions") against the champions of the Euroleague ("European Champions") because they believe those are the two best leagues, along with the NBA (the "North American League") that refused to take part.

FIBA said that they will continue to invite the NBA every year, but from now on the new World Cup for Clubs is going to happen whether the NBA is willing to participate or not.

Since the NBA refuses to play, despite being invited, FIBA World is officially recognizing the winners of this new tournament as World Club Champions, and the title of "world champion" will be official to the winners, and the claim of NBA champions as being "world champions" will officially be considered an illegitimate and invalid claim officially by FIBA World, since the NBA champions were invited, but refused to take part in the tournament.

So.......................the NBA is absolutely OFFICIALLY SCARED to have the NBA champions play against the Euroleague champions in an official World Clubs Cup.


This is the official club world championship trophy:

FIBA Intercontinental Cup Trophy:

http://www.gazetaesportiva.net/upload/imagem/2013/10/06/69463_20131006122650.jpg

[9erempiree]

Great post. I will watch because it's going to be some serious basketball.

I'm glad you posted this, otherwise, I wouldn't have known because I don't frequent the International forum.

Repped.

[bdreason]

Nothing to gain for the NBA.

[Le Shaqtus]

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[Rooster]

I think our D League champion has some tough challenge ahead of them.:oldlol:

[9erempiree]

So.......................the NBA is absolutely SCARED to have the NBA champions play against the Euroleague champions in an official World Clubs Cup.

I love the NBA and been watching for 25 years now but I don't really blame the NBA.

Would you honestly want to send a Lebron-led team in international play? I know I sure as hell don't. They will lose with him at the helm.

[Le Shaqtus]

Whoever wins this stupid competition should play against the real world champs. So Miami can clobber the poor souls who thought winning this little pee-wee game would actually make them the best in the World :lol

[KG215]

How long are the seasons (number of games and length of season in months) for the non-NBA leagues? Are they playing 100 games -- give or take -- from October to June like NBA champions?

[BasedTom]

Wouldn't it hurt the team the NBA sends there to compete by giving them a shorter offseason?

I know that association football has things like the Champion's League and all that good stuff. But you know... those competitions actually have a lot of prestige behind them. I doubt any NBA franchise cares about competing in this. I don't even think the Bobcats would accept such an honor.

[Real Men Wear Green]

:cry:

[9erempiree]

Wouldn't it hurt the team the NBA sends there to compete by giving them a shorter offseason?

I know that association football has things like the Champion's League and all that good stuff. But you know... those competitions actually have a lot of prestige behind them. I doubt any NBA franchise cares about competing in this. I don't even think the Bobcats would accept such an honor.

I don't know about the Bobcats, they will get killed.

[Euroleague]

Whoever wins this stupid competition should play against the real world champs. So Miami can clobber the poor souls who thought winning this little pee-wee game would actually make them the best in the World :lol

It's a 2 game series idiot, and every single point counts towards the title.

[Euroleague]

How long are the seasons (number of games and length of season in months) for the non-NBA leagues? Are they playing 100 games -- give or take -- from October to June like NBA champions?

Well, for Olympiacos, they play about 15 preseason games, then about 70 games during the season, then about half of their team has to play about another 15 to 20 games with their national teams.

So it comes to about 85 games for about half of the team, and about 100-105 games for the other half of the team.

The Greek League also is from October to June.

[Euroleague]

Wouldn't it hurt the team the NBA sends there to compete by giving them a shorter offseason?

I know that association football has things like the Champion's League and all that good stuff. But you know... those competitions actually have a lot of prestige behind them. I doubt any NBA franchise cares about competing in this. I don't even think the Bobcats would accept such an honor.

Well in the case of Olympiacos, a bunch of their players have to play at EuroBasket, so they would have a much shorter off season than the Heat would. MUCH SHORTER.

[BasedTom]

I understand that you're really passionate about international basketball, and we all know that it's a growing sport with many excellent players from around the world. But surely you can at least admit that the NBA is by far the greatest league in the world? You don't have Americans out there parading MLS like the Seattle Sounders could beat Manchester United or Barcelona.

[KG215]

I understand that you're really passionate about international basketball, and we all know that it's a growing sport with many excellent players from around the world. But surely you can at least admit that the NBA is by far the greatest league in the world? You don't have Americans out there parading MLS like the Seattle Sounders could beat Manchester United or Barcelona.
:oldlol:

Yeah...good luck with that.

[NumberSix]

Nobody cares about these minor leagues.

[#number6ix#]

Any nba team would win this tournament

[aj1987]

Well, for Olympiacos, they play about 15 preseason games, then about 70 games during the season, then about half of their team has to play about another 15 to 20 games with their national teams.

So it comes to about 85 games for about half of the team, and about 100-105 games for the other half of the team.

The Greek League also is from October to June.

Then why does Vagisil's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vassilis_Spanoulis#European_career_statistics) Wiki page say that he played only 31 games last season?

[Euroleague]

I understand that you're really passionate about international basketball, and we all know that it's a growing sport with many excellent players from around the world. But surely you can at least admit that the NBA is by far the greatest league in the world? You don't have Americans out there parading MLS like the Seattle Sounders could beat Manchester United or Barcelona.

MLS equivalent in basketball is the Belgian Basketball League. Anyone that makes that MLS = Euroleague comparison is full of shit.

Sorry, but it's true.

Euroleague equivalent in football is Champions League or Premiere League, not the MLS.

NBA only fans come up with these hilariously pathetic and untrue "analogies".

[Euroleague]

Then why does Vagisil's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vassilis_Spanoulis#European_career_statistics) Wiki page say that he played only 31 games last season?

You are a freaking moron.

[Jameerthefear]

Here's a good link with more info. (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6)

[aj1987]

You are a freaking moron.
I genuinely want to know the Wiki page says that he play only 31 games.

[ballinhun8]

MLS equivalent in basketball is the Belgian Basketball League. Anyone that makes that MLS = Euroleague comparison is full of shit.

Sorry, but it's true.

Euroleague equivalent in football is Champions League or Premiere League, not the MLS.

NBA only fans come up with these hilariously pathetic and untrue "analogies".


That would not be true either. Champions League is a tournament full of teams from one country. Premier League is a season of clubs playing specifically against teams based in England.


The NBA would be the BPL and the Euroleague would be like Ligue 1. Let's be honest.

[Andrew Wiggins]

That would not be true either. Champions League is a tournament full of teams from one country. Premier League is a season of clubs playing specifically against teams based in England.


The NBA would be the BPL and the Euroleague would be like Ligue 1. Let's be honest.


no. ligue 1 has one of the best teams in europe. nba is like the top 6 teams from the epl, real and barca from la liga, the top 5 from the bundesliga, top 5-6 from serie a, porto, shakhtar, cska, zenit, ajax, psv, psg, lyon, and marseille while the euroleague is like the mls

just like some euroleague teams win preseason matches against nba teams, mls teams have defeated chelsea and juventus in the past year.

[ballinhun8]

no. ligue 1 has one of the best teams in europe. nba is like the top 6 teams from the epl, real and barca from la liga, the top 5 from the bundesliga, top 5-6 from serie a, porto, shakhtar, cska, zenit, ajax, psv, psg, lyon, and marseille while the euroleague is like the mls

just like some euroleague teams win preseason matches against nba teams, mls teams have defeated chelsea and juventus in the past year.


I meant it in a way of describing the whole league. PSG might be one of the best teams but there is no one else except Monaco (who we have to see first) who would even challenge them.

[Euroleague]

That would not be true either. Champions League is a tournament full of teams from one country. Premier League is a season of clubs playing specifically against teams based in England.


The NBA would be the BPL and the Euroleague would be like Ligue 1. Let's be honest.

**** OFF

[Euroleague]

I genuinely want to know the Wiki page says that he play only 31 games.

Olympiacos schedule 2012-13

16 preseason games

3 Greek Cup games

34 Greek League games

31 Euroleague games

= 84 games

[KG215]

**** OFF
What's the best soccer league in the world?

Whatever the answer is, that'd be the equivalent of the NBA.



What's the second best soccer league in the world?

And whatever the answer to this question is, that would be the equivalent of Euroleague.

[Euroleague]

no. ligue 1 has one of the best teams in europe. nba is like the top 6 teams from the epl, real and barca from la liga, the top 5 from the bundesliga, top 5-6 from serie a, porto, shakhtar, cska, zenit, ajax, psv, psg, lyon, and marseille while the euroleague is like the mls

just like some euroleague teams win preseason matches against nba teams, mls teams have defeated chelsea and juventus in the past year.

Welcome to my ignore list.

[Fiba basketball]

I genuinely want to know the Wiki page says that he play only 31 games.

Because he played 31 games in EL but you need to add games in Greek league and cup to see how many games he played.

Also in Europe there are more practices (I think Radmanovic said he doesn't want to play in Europe because he doesn't want to have practice 2 times a day) while in NBA you don't have time to practice because you're always traveling. In my oppinion 5h practice is harder than playing a game so I don't get why people think that players in Europe have it easier than players in NBA.

[Euroleague]

What's the best soccer league in the world?

Whatever the answer is, that'd be the equivalent of the NBA.



What's the second best soccer league in the world?

And whatever the answer to this question is, that would be the equivalent of Euroleague.

Since when is MLS the second best soccer league in the world?

[Andrew Wiggins]

What's the best soccer league in the world?

Whatever the answer is, that'd be the equivalent of the NBA.



What's the second best soccer league in the world?

And whatever the answer to this question is, that would be the equivalent of Euroleague.

that is not how it is

in football, there is not one clear cut league with all the best talent like the nba in basketball

the best teams in the world are spread throughout a few of the top leagues in europe so a more appropriate analogy would say to take the top 30 teams in europe and say they played in a single league = nba while euroleague would be on a level to the mls or the colombian league

[aj1987]

Olympiacos schedule 2012-13

16 preseason games

3 Greek Cup games

34 Greek League games

31 Euroleague games

= 84 games
That wasn't so hard, was it?

Also, are all those games 48 minutes long?

[Euroleague]

Because he played 31 games in EL but you need to add games in Greek league and cup to see how many games he played.

Also in Europe there are more practices (I think Radmanovic said he doesn't want to play in Europe because he doesn't want to have practice 2 times a day) while in NBA you don't have time to practice because you're always traveling. In my oppinion 5h practice is harder than playing a game so I don't get why people think that players in Europe have it easier than players in NBA.

Yeah, Josh Childress said he thought it was odd how every American media person that interviewed him wanted him to talk about how the playing schedule in Euroleague is so much easier than in the NBA, where players have to play so much more.

Childress said he had full 2 a day practices in Olympiacos and that it was much more tiring and grueling than an NBA season. It's really just another myth that NBA only fans have created that NBA teams play a much harder schedule.

It's all part of the myths they try to create around Team USA.

[Euroleague]

That wasn't so hard, was it?

Also, are all those games 48 minutes long?

Games are 40 minutes long.

[KG215]

Since when is MLS the second best soccer league in the world?
What are you talking about? I didn't even mention MLS in my post.

[KG215]

Yeah, Josh Childress said he thought it was odd how every American media person that interviewed him wanted him to talk about how the playing schedule in Euroleague is so much easier than in the NBA, where players have to play so much more.

Childress said he had full 2 a day practices in Olympiacos and that it was much more tiring and grueling than an NBA season. It's really just another myth that NBA only fans have created that NBA teams play a much harder schedule.

It's all part of the myths they try to create around Team USA.
Link please?

[Inferno]

Link please?

You know he's not gonna give you one :oldlol:

[Rooster]

Yeah, Josh Childress said he thought it was odd how every American media person that interviewed him wanted him to talk about how the playing schedule in Euroleague is so much easier than in the NBA, where players have to play so much more.

Childress said he had full 2 a day practices in Olympiacos and that it was much more tiring and grueling than an NBA season. It's really just another myth that NBA only fans have created that NBA teams play a much harder schedule.

It's all part of the myths they try to create around Team USA.

Childress was All Euroleague team when he was overseas.:oldlol:

Then became a practice player when he came back.:oldlol:

I'm pretty sure he got tired of practicing and playing with Olympiacos.:oldlol:

[gabepizza]

This makes sense because Euroleague and the South American leaguse are pretty close talent wise so it will be a good competition. As for an NBA team it would be a waste of time, like making the premier league champion play against the MLS champion. It will not be competitive and not exciting. They had something like this from 1987-1999 in the McDonald's championship although it was not always the NBA champion who were set. The NBA teams won all nine tournaments. 9-0

This might be fun in the future but right now the NBA is so far ahead of the other league it would not be competitive.

I mean the Euroleague MVP and Final Four MVP is Spanoulis. The same Spanoulis whose team got eliminated by Nigeria in the Olympic Qualifying tournament. The same same Nigeria that lost to Team USA by 83 points in the Olympics.

The NBA champion against the Euroleague champion would be a similar lopsided blowout. Probably even worse. I mean at least the Nigerian team was athletic. Spanoulis and his Olympiacos teammates would have difficulty against a team from the local Y. Remember Spanoulis is the super scrub who averaged 2.7 ppg in the NBA. He is an embarrassment to his nation and his family. I feel bad for them. Really.
:cry:

[Le Shaqtus]

I mean the Euroleague MVP and Final Four MVP is Spanoulis. The same Spanoulis whose team got eliminated by Nigeria in the Olympic Qualifying tournament. The same same Nigeria that lost to Team USA by 83 points in the Olympics.

The NBA champion against the Euroleague champion would be a similar lopsided blowout. Probably even worse. I mean at least the Nigerian team was athletic. Spanoulis and his Olympiacos teammates would have difficulty against a team from the local Y. Remember Spanoulis is the super scrub who averaged 2.7 ppg in the NBA. He is an embarrassment to his nation and his family. I feel bad for them. Really.
:cry:

I wonder what they'll rank Spanoulis in 2k14, I remember in 2k11 he was a 47 so he was pretty much useless. But Euroleague claims he's better than LeBron so he's gotta atleast be 90+ :oldlol:

[Derka]

:oldlol: You suck.

[Dr.J4ever]

This is actually a decent idea for the future, not the present. Currently, the NBA as a whole is really vastly superior to other leagues. It's closest competitor, the Euroleague, is still way behind, not just in talent, but financially, and stability as a business enterprise. The other problem are the rules. What rules will govern the event? NBA rules or FIBA rules? Imagine an NBA team playing an entire season of games without the FIBA zone rules, and then suddenly meeting a Euro team whose specialty is zone defense? Or a Euro team used to playing it's own zone rules, and then having to play man to man more often vs explosive NBA players?

For this to be a real marketable event, the Euroleague and other leagues will have to draw more talent to their leagues with higher payroll, and a higher fan base. That doesn't look feasible in the next ten years, maybe 20.

An agreement on 1 standard rules of basketball will also have to be sat down on. Really, without the NBA, all this talk of a world club championship is just that, talk.

[eriX]

I think Miami's second unit is enough to compete in that league already to be honest. Birdman, Battier, Miller, Allen & Cole :confusedshrug:

[JtotheIzzo]

NBA is GENUINELY scared. :roll:

These tournaments are a waste of time and good leagues have nothing to gain.

They do the same shit with soccer and Man U or whoever ends up playing some shit pseudo minor league with their third unit and EVERYBODY loses.

Only a total bum pirate troll like Euroleague would stump for this exercise in futility.

[aj1987]

I think Miami's second unit is enough to compete in that league already to be honest. Birdman, Battier, Miller, Allen & Cole :confusedshrug:
Miller is no longer with Miami.

[eriX]

Miller is no longer with Miami.

id assume if they did participate it would be with their championship roster. But if not just replace miller with lewis

[sportjames23]

How long are the seasons (number of games and length of season in months) for the non-NBA leagues? Are they playing 100 games -- give or take -- from October to June like NBA champions?


They play like about half the amount of games the NBA does. I'd be all for the NBA champion participating in this, but the foreign teams have the advantage because their seasons aren't as long and grueling as the NBA is.

[sportjames23]

Well, for Olympiacos, they play about 15 preseason games, then about 70 games during the season, then about half of their team has to play about another 15 to 20 games with their national teams.

So it comes to about 85 games for about half of the team, and about 100-105 games for the other half of the team.

The Greek League also is from October to June.


I stand corrected. I always thought Euro teams played about half the amount of games NBA teams did.

[FKAri]

FIFA controls everything and is more influential than any league within it's umbrella.

FIBA on the other hand is trying to be that but isnt. The NBA still has all the power and these two completely incompatible formats dont work well together. I mean the NBA isnt even a domestic league; it has a Canadian team. It is a private entity.

[Euroleague]

This makes sense because Euroleague and the South American league are pretty close talent wise so it will be a good competition. As for an NBA team it would be a waste of time, like making the premier league champion play against the MLS champion. It will not be competitive and not exciting. They had something like this from 1987-1999 in the McDonald's championship although it was not always the NBA champion who were set. The NBA teams won all nine tournaments. 9-0

This might be fun in the future but right now the NBA is so far ahead of the other league it would not be competitive.

I mean the Euroleague MVP and Final Four MVP is Spanoulis. The same Spanoulis whose team got eliminated by Nigeria in the Olympic Qualifying tournament. The same same Nigeria that lost to Team USA by 83 points in the Olympics.

The NBA champion against the Euroleague champion would be a similar lopsided blowout. Probably even worse. I mean at least the Nigerian team was athletic. Spanoulis and his Olympiacos teammates would have difficulty against a team from the local Y. Remember Spanoulis is the super scrub who averaged 2.7 ppg in the NBA. He is an embarrassment to his nation and his family. I feel bad for them. Really.
:cry:

It's not the champion of the South American League you freaking idiot. It's the champion of the Americas League, which is all of Latin America.

You know, South America, plus Central America, Mexico, Caribbean..........oh wait, no you don't know, because you are a total dumb ****.

[Frozen1]

This "World Champions" that people use in NBA is one of the biggest bullshits around, typical of the USA imperial tought that they rule the world and USA is what only matters.

In NO OTHER place in the world, in ANY SPORT, teams that win their national league claims themselves "World Champions".

[ralph_i_el]

The nba should send a U-24 team to play in this tourny. Who wouldn't watch:

Westbrook/Wall
Harden/Beal
Durant/PG
Love/BG
AD/Boogie Cousins/Monroe

stomp a bunch of international pansies

[BoutPractice]

Would absolutely LOVE to see a real worldwide league emerge one day...

But as it is, it's more likely that this league would be the result of the NBA expanding rather than FIBA led efforts. It might start with an NBA team from London (since they've had all those NBA games there, they're clearly contemplating it as a long term plan), Paris, and then cities like Beijing and Rio.... They would have to rethink the schedules, obviously, but on the whole the risk would be worth it. Stern clearly believed in global expansion... it remains to be seen where Silver stands on this.

[Andrew Wiggins]

that brazilian team lost in the 2nd round of the brazilian league playoffs

[Uncle Drew]

Euroleague equivalent in football is Champions League or Premiere League, not the MLS.
:oldlol:

[BoutPractice]

Champions League is a ridiculous comparison, but so is MLS.

[LikeABosh]

Maybe the NBA can send the winner of the draft lottery to this second rate, pee wee garbage

[Unbiased_one]

What's the best soccer league in the world?

Whatever the answer is, that'd be the equivalent of the NBA.



What's the second best soccer league in the world?

And whatever the answer to this question is, that would be the equivalent of Euroleague.

The best comparison is:

NBA=champions league

Euroleague: Europa league

[Unbiased_one]

I stand corrected. I always thought Euro teams played about half the amount of games NBA teams did.

Half the games olympiacos play are totally uncompetitive. The Greek league (and to a lesser extent the euroleague) is very short on depth.

They play slightly fewer total games (about 80 competitive including playoffs)

[3peated]

rather lame honestly

[deja vu]

The best comparison is:

NBA=champions league

Euroleague: Europa league
Euroleague = MLS :roll:

Europa league is still a high level of competition. Chelsea and Man City played on it last year.

[jzek]

They don't want to embarrass these Yooroleague teams which is very nice of them! :applause:

[Scholar]

I only skimmed through the post, but I think I got what OP is getting at. I strongly disagree. Why should the NBA ask its players to be involved in a tournament that doesn't matter to anyone? I don't know if it was mentioned, but I'm assuming the players won't get paid. So you want the NBA, which has teams that pay millions to their players to play for them, to risk injury of said players just for a tournament? No thanks.

[Euroleague]

I only skimmed through the post, but I think I got what OP is getting at. I strongly disagree. Why should the NBA ask its players to be involved in a tournament that doesn't matter to anyone? I don't know if it was mentioned, but I'm assuming the players won't get paid. So you want the NBA, which has teams that pay millions to their players to play for them, to risk injury of said players just for a tournament? No thanks.

And you assumed wrong. FIBA offered $10 million to the NBA to participate, $5 million for the NBA, and $5 million for the NBA champions. So yeah, they would definitely be getting paid.

Unless you think $5 million for 2 games is beneath an NBA team.............

[ballup]

I'm very impressed with the sources supplied.

[rhythmic]

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9411/p0mz.gif

:applause:

[rhythmic]

MLS equivalent in basketball is the Belgian Basketball League. Anyone that makes that MLS = Euroleague comparison is full of shit.

Sorry, but it's true.

Euroleague equivalent in football is Champions League or Premiere League, not the MLS.

NBA only fans come up with these hilariously pathetic and untrue "analogies".

Oh my god... :roll:

[rhythmic]

Euroleague champions would lose to LeBron James and 11 randomly selected posters from this forum. :oldlol:

[kenny817]

negged

[razzredazzre]

Like all the other posters said why would the NBA play in a scrubbish tournament with their best talent?

Football (soccer) is different, where the top world talent is spread through Europe but the top basketball talent is concentrated in one league and OP is dissing the NBA for them not wanting to participate in a down leveled competition?

This kind of stuff should be considered MAYBE in the far future where top basketball talents are spread throughout the globe. Not now.

Personally I don't think a Champions League format of basketball competition is ever gonna happen with the way of the NBA recruiting all the top talent. Let the D-League play in this thing, no problemo. They'll do their best to impress NBA scouts.

[Euroleague]

Like all the other posters said why would the NBA play in a scrubbish tournament with their best talent?

Football (soccer) is different, where the top world talent is spread through Europe but the top basketball talent is concentrated in one league and OP is dissing the NBA for them not wanting to participate in a down leveled competition?

This kind of stuff should be considered MAYBE in the far future where top basketball talents are spread throughout the globe. Not now.

Personally I don't think a Champions League format of basketball competition is ever gonna happen with the way of the NBA recruiting all the top talent. Let the D-League play in this thing, no problemo. They'll do their best to impress NBA scouts.

In other words, the NBA is too scared to play, because they know they might lose to the Euroleague champions.

[Derka]

In other words, the NBA is too scared to play, because they know they might lose to the Euroleague champions.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: And you call other people trolls.

[LosScandalous]

In other words, the NBA is too scared to play, because they know they might lose to the Euroleague champions.
Yeah thats why :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Jennifer-Lawrence-ok-thumbs-up.gif

[The Choken One]

This is like saying Barcelona is scared to play the LA Galaxy. That's how ridiculous your argument of "the NBA is scared" is.

The NBA champions would absolutely run through these scrubs, what's the benefit in that?

[Euroleague]

This is like saying Barcelona is scared to play the LA Galaxy. That's how ridiculous your argument of "the NBA is scared" is.

The NBA champions would absolutely run through these scrubs, what's the benefit in that?

If that was true, then the NBA would play the tournament, dominate it and officially have the right to claim of world champion.

There would be ZERO reason to not accept the opportunity to officially have claim to the world champion title, that they have been bragging about for so long and that people outside the USA laugh at.

The ONLY reason to not accept this, is being afraid of losing.

Anyone that thinks the NBA wouldn't accept it, IF they really thought there was no way to lose, is an undeniable moron of the highest magnitude.

[outbreak]

these leaps of logic are amazing. someone should do a reality tv show following euroleague around in his day to day life.

NBA clubs wouldn't necessarily dominate this comp to be fair, some fans would be surprised by results I think. But saying the NBA is 'officially scared' is crazy talk. I guarantee they would be favourites every year and be a top 3-4 team every year.

If the NBL champions play in this league they will get destroyed though lol.

[Euroleague]

FIBA passed a new rule that will take effect at the current 2013 Club World Cup between Olympiacos and Pinheiros, that.................

Teams can sign any player they want to for just the 2 game Club World Cup, and can even get clearance if they are under contract with another club to play, as long as their club approves it.

Wow, FIBA is getting serious about this tournament.

[Nash]

MLS equivalent in basketball is the Belgian Basketball League. Anyone that makes that MLS = Euroleague comparison is full of shit.

Sorry, but it's true.

Euroleague equivalent in football is Champions League or Premiere League, not the MLS.

NBA only fans come up with these hilariously pathetic and untrue "analogies".
No, the Eurloeague equivalent in football is Copa Libertadores or the Asian or African Champions League. Not the European Champions League.

[Euroleague]

No, the Eurloeague equivalent in football is Copa Libertadores or the Asian or African Champions League. Not the European Champions League.

Nope.

[Nash]

Nope.
Brilliant as usual.

[tgan3]

I actually like to see Miami Heat playing against them. Not that I think they lose though but I believe it will be a good fight

[niko]

OMG, the NBA is not sending their teams to play inferior leagues champs in a tournament none of us care about or would watch? I CANT BELIEVE IT. HOW WILL I GO ON?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

No shit. They don't want to risk injury to their players for a meaningless scrub tournament.

[Dr.J4ever]

If that was true, then the NBA would play the tournament, dominate it and officially have the right to claim of world champion.

There would be ZERO reason to not accept the opportunity to officially have claim to the world champion title, that they have been bragging about for so long and that people outside the USA laugh at.

The ONLY reason to not accept this, is being afraid of losing.

Anyone that thinks the NBA wouldn't accept it, IF they really thought there was no way to lose, is an undeniable moron of the highest magnitude.
Zero reason to not accept the champ? Not with people like you around. Even if the nba champ wins 3 years in a row like team usa you would just say the refs fixed it and players taking peds. With you tournaments are useless.

[Euroleague]

Zero reason to not accept the champ? Not with people like you around. Even if the nba champ wins 3 years in a row like team usa you would just say the refs fixed it and players taking peds. With you tournaments are useless.

This is the first OFFICIAL ongoing world championship in professional FIBA era, which is OFFICIAL and NBA was invited but REFUSED to play in.

The winner of this tournament gets the official title of world club champion and the NBA OFFICIALLY loses the right to that claim now.

You and every other NBA only fan is fuming inside.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Americans are invested in the greatest basketball league in the world....the NBA. Why waste time playing inferior competition? :confusedshrug:

[brantonli]

FIBA passed a new rule that will take effect at the current 2013 Club World Cup between Olympiacos and Pinheiros, that.................

Teams can sign any player they want to for just the 2 game Club World Cup, and can even get clearance if they are under contract with another club to play, as long as their club approves it.

Wow, FIBA is getting serious about this tournament.


Link please?

[gabepizza]

This is the first OFFICIAL ongoing world championship in professional FIBA era, which is OFFICIAL and NBA was invited but REFUSED to play in.

The winner of this tournament gets the official title of world club champion and the NBA OFFICIALLY loses the right to that claim now.

You and every other NBA only fan is fuming inside.


Official by whose standards? I might as well challenge Roy Jones Jr. to an official fight and if he doesn't accept I can call him scared.

BTW Don't worry. The NBA champions will still be called world champions.

I also would be more fuming if the NBA stooped so low to playing minor leagues in a "World Championship"

[duskovujosevic]

self proclaimed world champions from private league
vs official world club champions.
i'd rather choose official. FIBA > NBA

OFFICIAL BY LAW STANDARDS. FIBA IS WORLD GOVERNING BODY FOR BASKETBALL
NBA IS PRIVATE LEAGUE WHICH IS DRIVEN ONLY BY PROFIT

[2swift4u]

well I can understand why the NBA refused to take part in it. (if Miami lost a game it would hurt the NBA's reputation) Furthermore they already have enough games on their schedule and all the travel would be a pain in the ass.

However I think the NBA (and all other US sports organizations, the US media etc.) should stop calling their champions the "world champions". Even if there are no better teams or players anywhere else I think it's pretty disrespectful to any other league or organisation. Especially when there is something like a world championships tournament.

[gabepizza]

Euroleague was officially scared to play against the D-league champions since there is a much higher chance of D-league champions upseting an Euroleague team than a Euroleague team upseting an NBA team

[Rooster]

Euroleague was officially scared to play against the D-league champions since there is a much higher chance of D-league champions upseting an Euroleague team than a Euroleague team upseting an NBA team

They used to have those Mc Donald's and NBA teams won all of it ( 9 straight) so they got tired and scrap the whole thing:roll: . I agree D Leaguer champ should represent NBA since they affiliated anyway.:applause:

[Euroleague]

Official by whose standards? I might as well challenge Roy Jones Jr. to an official fight and if he doesn't accept I can call him scared.

BTW Don't worry. The NBA champions will still be called world champions.

I also would be more fuming if the NBA stooped so low to playing minor leagues in a "World Championship"

Official by FIBA World's body standard, and FIBA World is the body that decides that. NOT the NBA.

The NBA and US sports media has no legal right to make that claim, only FIBA World does.

In the past, this tournament was either in non professional era (pre 1991) or it was just a one time event invitational (1996).

But now FIBA has finally made the ongoing professional official world championship. So the winner is the official world champion, and they invite even more teams next year.

The NBA has NO EXCUSE and NO CLAIMS otherwise now, since they were invited and refused to participate.

But without any question now, it will be a fake claim if the NBA and US sports media use the "NBA world champion" claim now. Because FIBA has the ACTUAL tournament now legally in existence.

The NBA has ZERO legal grounds to make the world champion claim now, and if US sports media still makes those claims, I am sure they could be sued over it.

[Euroleague]

well I can understand why the NBA refused to take part in it. (if Miami lost a game it would hurt the NBA's reputation) Furthermore they already have enough games on their schedule and all the travel would be a pain in the ass.

However I think the NBA (and all other US sports organizations, the US media etc.) should stop calling their champions the "world champions". Even if there are no better teams or players anywhere else I think it's pretty disrespectful to any other league or organisation. Especially when there is something like a world championships tournament.

Exactly. This is just simple basic common sense and logic.

[Euroleague]

They used to have those Mc Donald's and NBA teams won all of it ( 9 straight) so they got tired and scrap the whole thing:roll: . I agree D Leaguer champ should represent NBA since they affiliated anyway.:applause:

That was never an official tournament idiot. That was an open invitational. Two completely different things.

This tournament is like the FIFA Club World Cup, except it is for basketball.

The D-League? The D-League isn't the champion of North America you freaking idiot. The tournament is only for the CHAMPIONS of each of the regional FIBA zones.

The D-League winner isn't the champion of the North American FIBA Zone you tool.

[dr.hee]

This tournament is like the FIFA Club World Cup, except it is for basketball.

Exactly. A low level competition with a fancy name.

[Euroleague]

Exactly. A low level competition with a fancy name.

No, that would be the Olympics basketball competition.

[dr.hee]

No, that would be the Olympics basketball competition.

Still better competition than both FIBA and FIFA Club World Championships:confusedshrug:

[Euroleague]

At least in the NBA 2K14 video game the NBA champs are not afraid to play the Euroleague champs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiwJaYLG14c

[TheReal Kendall]

At least in the NBA 2K14 video game the NBA champs are not afraid to play the Euroleague champs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiwJaYLG14c

You need to get a life bro

[Derka]

This is the first OFFICIAL ongoing world championship in professional FIBA era, which is OFFICIAL and NBA was invited but REFUSED to play in.

The winner of this tournament gets the official title of world club champion and the NBA OFFICIALLY loses the right to that claim now.

You and every other NBA only fan is fuming inside.

Literally none of us care about minor leaguers in other countries fighting for table scrap trophies.

[Andrew Wiggins]

You need to get a life bro

http://i.imgur.com/q63e6De.png

:roll:

[ralph_i_el]

Why would the NBA bother sending a team? It would be an absolute bloodbath especially if they're afraid of getting upset by D-leaguers

[duskovujosevic]

fans of self proclaimed world champions from PRIVATE LEAGUE talking nonsense

[TheReturn]

fans of self proclaimed world champions from PRIVATE LEAGUE talking nonsense
euroleague alt.

[Le Shaqtus]

euroleague alt.

Couldn't be more obvious...

[duskovujosevic]

euroleague alt.

thereturn, le shaqtus = gabepizza alt

[Andrew Wiggins]

Couldn't be more obvious...


Lmaooooo that weirdo has been arguing with himself for the last few months :roll:

[dr.hee]

Lmaooooo that weirdo has been arguing with himself for the last few months :roll:

What a psychopath. That retarded piece of shit Euroleague only fan needs to be put into a straight jacket. Racist stat geek troll retards like him should take their medication and put down the crack pipe. He's brainwashed by FIBA propaganda and should stop. doing. drugs. What a piece of shit! Go jack it off to a poster of Spanoulis, moron!

:lol

[Bandito]

thereturn, le shaqtus = gabepizza alt
that's your comeback?:roll:

[Le Shaqtus]

that's your comeback?:roll:

You have to hand it to him, for someone with a sub 20 IQ it was a pretty good insult.

[gts]

What a psychopath. That retarded piece of shit Euroleague only fan needs to be put into a straight jacket. Racist stat geek troll retards like him should take their medication and put down the crack pipe. He's brainwashed by FIBA propaganda and should stop. doing. drugs. What a piece of shit! Go jack it off to a poster of Spanoulis, moron!

:lol

I'm not sure but I think putting down the crack pipe is actually illegal in Arkansas, at least he posts like it is

I'll have to look into that

[redrich2000]

The soccer comparison to this is not the Champions League its the Confed Cup. The NBA is already basically the Champions League. Confed Cup is a mini tournament with the Champion from each confederation and so it includes very weak teams from Oceania, Nth America etc and doesn't hold huge prestige.

The thing is, the European and South American power-house teams still take it seriously, because, unlike you Americans, they have respect for their sport globally. And soccer is a much more physically intensive sport than basketball with a shorter off-season. Players at the top clubs play about 60 games a season (or more in some cases), which means 2 90 min games a week, in which they run around 8-9km a game. Then every second year there is an International tournament that is taken VERY seriously, which means they get basically no off-season. The Confed Cup is on top of ALL that and still teams and players take it relatively seriously.

The truth is the NBA is arrogant, soft and disrespectful in this regard and should stop calling the champs "world champs" when they're too soft to show up for a tournament they reckon they'll win at a canter anyway.

[Euroleague]

Leandro Barbosa supposedly signed with Pinheiros, and he will supposedly play at the tournament against Olympiacos.

[rhowen4]

i'd be down to watch the Heat (and subsequent NBA champions) dominate internationally

[fiddy]

Leandro Barbosa supposedly signed with Pinheiros, and he will supposedly play at the tournament against Olympiacos.
Like anyone cares. Stfu ang gtfo.

[gabepizza]

Official by FIBA World's body standard, and FIBA World is the body that decides that. NOT the NBA.

The NBA and US sports media has no legal right to make that claim, only FIBA World does.

In the past, this tournament was either in non professional era (pre 1991) or it was just a one time event invitational (1996).

But now FIBA has finally made the ongoing professional official world championship. So the winner is the official world champion, and they invite even more teams next year.

The NBA has NO EXCUSE and NO CLAIMS otherwise now, since they were invited and refused to participate.

But without any question now, it will be a fake claim if the NBA and US sports media use the "NBA world champion" claim now. Because FIBA has the ACTUAL tournament now legally in existence.

The NBA has ZERO legal grounds to make the world champion claim now, and if US sports media still makes those claims, I am sure they could be sued over it.

:lol :oldlol: :lol :oldlol:

[gabepizza]

No, that would be the Olympics basketball competition.

Man can't get over the butt hurt that no European team has been able to win the Olympics since NBA players were allowed.

Poor Euro.

:D

[kennethgriffin]

has anyone actually tuned in or taken notice because of this guys constant flooding of ISH for this over seas basketball league?

lol

people around the world grow up dreaming of playing in the nba. not for the olympiacos

the reason certain players can dominate more in europe is because its less dependent on athleticism and speed/strength

those same guys will flop in the nba. then go over and win mvps in europe

while sticking a supreme athlete in europe wont be able to average a ton of points either because its suited for those soft skinny chuckers and fundamental floppers.


its not worth my time. euro ball is league for highly skilled children. not highly skilled men

[East_Stone_Ya]

once again its straight bullshit..no links no proof

Lakasfanyo at it again

[Unbiased_one]

The soccer comparison to this is not the Champions League its the Confed Cup. The NBA is already basically the Champions League. Confed Cup is a mini tournament with the Champion from each confederation and so it includes very weak teams from Oceania, Nth America etc and doesn't hold huge prestige.

The thing is, the European and South American power-house teams still take it seriously, because, unlike you Americans, they have respect for their sport globally. And soccer is a much more physically intensive sport than basketball with a shorter off-season. Players at the top clubs play about 60 games a season (or more in some cases), which means 2 90 min games a week, in which they run around 8-9km a game. Then every second year there is an International tournament that is taken VERY seriously, which means they get basically no off-season. The Confed Cup is on top of ALL that and still teams and players take it relatively seriously.

The truth is the NBA is arrogant, soft and disrespectful in this regard and should stop calling the champs "world champs" when they're too soft to show up for a tournament they reckon they'll win at a canter anyway.

The confeds cup isn't really taken seriously. Spain lost to the us last time, and this time they spent the whole thing experimenting with alternative tactics.

[ILLsmak]

HAHA, imagine the NBA sending the bad teams up there. Convicted of tanking? Banished to overseas. Come back when you wanna play for real.

-Smak

[Euroleague]

2013 Latin American champions E.C. Pinheiros vs. 2013 Euroleague champions Olympiacos Piraeus


http://s21.postimg.org/pu8p6xv93/banner_mundial_fb.jpg

http://lnb.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Mundial-Pinheiros-x-Olimpiacos-1.jpg

http://lnb.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Apresenta%C3%A7%C3%A3o11-660x240.jpg
2013 Latin American MVP Shamell Stallworth vs. 2013 Euroleague MVP Vassilis Spanoulis


Game 1 - October 4th, 2013 - Sao Paulo, Brazil

Game 2 - October 6th, 2013 - Sao Paulo, Brazil


2013 World Cup of Clubs Preview:

http://mundialdeclubes.lnb.com.br/idioma/?lang=en&url=mundialdeclubes.lnb.com.br%2F

[Euroleague]

Olympiacos player's injury status:


Out:

Acie Law, Dimitrios Mavroeidis, and Ioannis Papapetrou are all out with injuries and won't play at the tournament.


Might Be Able To Play:

Vassilis Spanoulis is still dealing with the ankle injury he suffered at the 2013 FIBA EuroBasket (he should have stayed out for a month), but they are saying that he will travel with the team and that he "might be able to help".


Pinheiros player's injury status:

All of their players are reported as being available right now.

[Andrew Wiggins]

vaginis spanoulis faking injury so he doesnt get destroyed by the brazilians and so he can enjoy the tranny hookers

[Euroleague]

2013 Club World Cup updates:

Vassilis Spanoulis practiced for the first time this season with Olympiacos, after his ankle injury at 2013 FIBA EuroBasket, and he will play in the World Club Cup against Pinheiros.

Leandro Barbosa asked for more money from Pinheiros, and they finally decided not to sign him after all.

[Euroleague]

http://www.ahebrasil.com.br/upload/fotos/2013/10/03/bas_mundial_Samuel_VelezFIBA_Americas_625.jpg

At the 2013 Intercontinental Basketball Cup's official press conference, FIBA and Euroleague said that all of the regional zone winners (FIBA Asia, FIBA Africa, FIBA Americas, Euroleague, and Australian League) want to play for the club world title at the tournament next year.

Also, that the NBA is now open to the idea of it.

I knew it would only be a matter of time until the NBA started panicking that they can't use the "NBA World Champions" claim anymore, now that FIBA started this.

lol at all the NBA only fan clowns here claiming otherwise. This tournament is a marketing nightmare for the NBA "world champions", as long as they refuse to play in it.

[Derka]

NBA > all this minor leagues stuff.

[duskovujosevic]

Euroleague, put stream link if you find one

[Euroleague]

Euroleague, put stream links if you find one

OK.

They said it will be broadcast in Brazil on Fox Sports and in Greece on Ant1. In Greece, the first game is being aired twice.

They said they had a contract to broadcast this tournament in 70 countries. So hopefully there will be good streams.

[Euroleague]

The games will take place in Sao Paulo at this arena:

http://s11.postimg.org/5ra9g2rvn/BF3_A75_CAA20_F423394_B0_C5_F091_F7_D621.jpg

[Kblaze8855]

I knew it would only be a matter of time until the NBA started panicking that they can't use the "NBA World Champions" claim anymore, now that FIBA started this.

lol at all the NBA only fan clowns here claiming otherwise. This tournament is a marketing nightmare for the NBA "world champions", as long as they refuse to play in it.

Marketing nightmare because they arent in a tournament 99.995% of this planet doesnt know exists?

The NBA will call its champ the world champ until the end of time. Nobody the NBAs advertisers care about even know what these games are.

And if they did they still wouldnt care. Id assume you knew that and were just posting to get a reaction but after your whole twitter thing ive come to accept that you really are serious. A....pretty bothersome thought.

[Euroleague]

Marketing nightmare because they arent in a tournament 99.995% of this planet doesnt know exists?

The NBA will call its champ the world champ until the end of time. Nobody the NBAs advertisers care about even know what these games are.

And if they did they still wouldnt care. Id assume you knew that and were just posting to get a reaction but after your whole twitter thing ive come to accept that you really are serious. A....pretty bothersome thought.

No they will not. They will no longer have the right to do so, after this tournament.

They can't claim they are world champions anymore, when there is an official tournament to decide that, they get invited to it, and refuse to play in it.

[Le Shaqtus]

That is a small ass arena..

[Derka]

No they will not. They will no longer have the right to do so, after this tournament.

They can't claim they are world champions anymore, when there is an official tournament to decide that, they get invited to it, and refuse to play in it.
They can and they will because the rules and standards of lesser leagues don't apply to the one league in the world where actual professionals play each other.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Nothing to gain for the NBA.


10 million "bro".

[Dr.J4ever]

The games will take place in Sao Paulo at this arena:

http://imguol.com/blogs/57/files/2013/08/9265619268_78e52fcdd7_z.jpg

This is it? Looks like a high school gym!:lol

My God, that's embarrassing!

[KG215]

Seriously, what's the capacity of that "arena"?

[Fiba basketball]

Seriously, what's the capacity of that "arena"?

Here you go

[QUOTE]Gin

[niko]

They can and they will because the rules and standards of lesser leagues don't apply to the one league in the world where actual professionals play each other.
There also is no "world champion". The tournaments like Champions League, FIFA tournament, etc. are prestigious but the club who wins doesn't get declared "officail world champion". What a totally stupid though.

[Euroleague]

They can and they will because the rules and standards of lesser leagues don't apply to the one league in the world where actual professionals play each other.

No they won't. There will be copyrights on it.

[Euroleague]

[QUOTE=Fiba basketball]Here you go

Gin

[Le Shaqtus]

It's called a global championship but the arena only holds 5000 people? College basketball games get almost double that.

[Euroleague]

It's called a global championship but the arena only holds 5000 people? College basketball games get almost double that.

And so will this. They already sold 10,000 tickets idiot. And how many college basketball games are broadcast on TV in 70 countries?

[niko]

And so will this. They already sold 10,000 tickets idiot. And how many college basketball games are broadcast on TV in 70 countries?
You always throw this out like it's impressive. If you are on a channel that is available in another country, that's 1. LIke Japan. They carry american ESPN. Thus anything ESPN shows is available in Japan. Big ****ing deal. No one watches, no one cares, but it is on.

[Le Shaqtus]

And so will this. They already sold 10,000 tickets idiot. And how many college basketball games are broadcast on TV in 70 countries?

I'm just asking :confusedshrug: You said 5000 seats not 10,000.

Also we're talking about seats not broadcasting, totally irrelevant.

[Euroleague]

Olympiacos Piraeus vs. Pinheros Sky, 01:00 CET


TV Broadcast Info:

Brazil + all of Latin America: Fox Sports

Greece: ANT1

France and USA: Be in Sport


Internet Broadcast Info:

Worldwide: LiveBasketball.tv:


So the first game game will start tonight at 01:00 Central European Time, which is 7:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time for people in the USA.

[Euroleague]

You always throw this out like it's impressive. If you are on a channel that is available in another country, that's 1. LIke Japan. They carry american ESPN. Thus anything ESPN shows is available in Japan. Big ****ing deal. No one watches, no one cares, but it is on.

Most of Europe never cares or watches NBA games, even though they are being aired in Europe.

But NBA only fans always claim that the NBA is hugely popular in Europe and tons of people there watch it on TV.

You are a hypocrite.

[Euroleague]

I'm just asking :confusedshrug: You said 5000 seats not 10,000.

Also we're talking about seats not broadcasting, totally irrelevant.

It's two games genius. And the game was supposed to be held at a nearby 16,000 seat arena, but it was already being booked for something else.

So just STFU.

[Andrew Wiggins]

It's two games genius. And the game was supposed to be held at a nearby 16,000 seat arena, but it was already being booked for something else.

So just STFU.

in other words you're a schizo who made it up :roll:

[Euroleague]

in other words you're a schizo who made it up :roll:

The mega lying troll is back.

The tournament was supposed to be held at this arena:

http://f.i.uol.com.br/folha/esporte/images/11136303.jpeg

But it was already booked. That is the arena that always hosts this same tournament IDIOT.

[Le Shaqtus]

It's two games genius. And the game was supposed to be held at a nearby 16,000 seat arena, but it was already being booked for something else.

So just STFU.

I've never seen such a salty bitch in my life, can't even answer simple questions without getting sand caught in his v*gina :oldlol:

[Euroleague]

I've never seen such a salty bitch in my life, can't even answer simple questions without getting sand caught in his v*gina :oldlol:

You talk shit no matter what. It gets damn annoying after awhile.

[dr.hee]

It's two games genius. And the game was supposed to be held at a nearby 16,000 seat arena, but it was already being booked for something else.

So just STFU.

Yeah, shit happens. The last soccer world cup was actually played on my backyard lawn because the stadiums were already booked for something more important.

World Championship :lol

[gabepizza]

The mega lying troll is back.

The tournament was supposed to be held at this arena:

http://f.i.uol.com.br/folha/esporte/images/11136303.jpeg

But it was already booked. That is the arena that always hosts this same tournament IDIOT.


Probably for a puppet show.
:rockon:

[Euroleague]

Rosters:

Olympiacos Piraeus:

Vassilis Spanoulis / Kostas Sloukas / Dimitrios Katsivelis
Vangelis Mantzaris / Acie Law / Antreas Christodoulou
Stratos Perperoglou / Matt Lojeski / Ioannis Papapetrou
Georgios Printezis / Brent Petway / Dimitrios Agravanis
Bryant Dunston / Mirza Begic / Cedric Simmons / Dimitrios Mavroeidis

Players in bold are out with injuries.


E.C. Pinheiros:

Paulinho Boracini / Bruno Mortari / Pedro Wellausen
Shamell Stallworth / Joseph Troy Smith / Guilherme Martins
Jonathan Tavernari / Humberto Gomes / Bruno Caboclo
Steve Toyloy / Andre Bambu / Lucas Dias Silva
Rafael Mineiro / Leonardo Morro / Wesley Carnieto


Projected 12 Man Lineups:

Olympiacos Piraeus:

Vassilis Spanoulis / Kostas Sloukas
Vangelis Mantzaris / Dimitrios Katsivelis
Stratos Perperoglou / Matt Lojeski
Georgios Printezis / Brent Petway / Dimitrios Agravanis
Bryant Dunston / Mirza Begic / Cedric Simmons


E.C. Pinheiros:

Paulinho Boracini / Bruno Mortari
Shamell Stallworth / Joseph Troy Smith
Jonathan Tavernari / Humberto Gomes / Bruno Caboclo
Steve Toyloy / Andre Bambu / Lucas Dias Silva
Rafael Mineiro / Leonardo Morro


Pinheiros has 3 players on its roster that are considered to be possible first round NBA draft picks.

[HurricaneKid]

I have literally played HS games with three times as many people in the stands. World Championship indeed.

[dr.hee]

I have literally played HS games with three times as many people in the stands. World Championship indeed.

:roll:

[Euroleague]

I have literally played HS games with three times as many people in the stands. World Championship indeed.

Yeah, and I am sure that all the high school games you played in were broadcast live on TV in 70 countries, including in most of the western hemisphere on Fox Sports.

And I am sure that all of the high school games you played in were all broadcast live worldwide on the internet.............

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

:facepalm :rolleyes:

[niko]

Most of Europe never cares or watches NBA games, even though they are being aired in Europe.

But NBA only fans always claim that the NBA is hugely popular in Europe and tons of people there watch it on TV.

You are a hypocrite.
I never said NBA is popular in Europe. I said you are full of shit throwing out stats about numbers of countries like it's meaningful. It's not. Countries have channels all over. The fact you can see this tournament in the US is inconsequential, because no one gives even the meagerist shit about it.

[Le Shaqtus]

You talk shit no matter what. It gets damn annoying after awhile.

Not my fault you're a schoolyard bitch and a terrible troll :confusedshrug:

[Euroleague]

I never said NBA is popular in Europe. I said you are full of shit throwing out stats about numbers of countries like it's meaningful. It's not. Countries have channels all over. The fact you can see this tournament in the US is inconsequential, because no one gives even the meagerist shit about it.

NBA only fans reaching the boiling point over the loss of the "NBA World Champion" claim.............

:lol

[Euroleague]

The arena was renovated and expanded to 6,000 for this tournament also:

What the arena looks like now:

http://s18.postimg.org/dpwfjyivd/image.jpg

http://s11.postimg.org/5ra9g2rvn/BF3_A75_CAA20_F423394_B0_C5_F091_F7_D621.jpg

[gabepizza]

Yeah, and I am sure that all the high school games you played in were broadcast live on TV in 70 countries, including in most of the western hemisphere on Fox Sports.

And I am sure that all of the high school games you played in were all broadcast live worldwide on the internet.............

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

:facepalm :rolleyes:

His point is that in today's age of 300 channels, satellite tv, etc...that saying something is broadcast live on TV in 70 countries means nothing. I'm sure the bass fishing championships are broadcast live in 70 countries. That doesn't mean anyone is watching it.
This world basketball "championship" is probably even going to be broadcast live in the US too.
And it will get less viewers than re-runs of old game shows.
:facepalm

[HurricaneKid]

Yeah, and I am sure that all the high school games you played in were broadcast live on TV in 70 countries, including in most of the western hemisphere on Fox Sports.

And I am sure that all of the high school games you played in were all broadcast live worldwide on the internet.............

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

:facepalm :rolleyes:

Probably not, but you could have watched them in over 70 countries. Suggesting that means ANYTHING is laughable.

For instance:
http://tourofalberta.ca/site/2013-tour-of-alberta-to-be-broadcast-in-over-162-countries-and-168-million-households-around-the-world/

Tour of Alberta, ever heard of it? I haven't. Its a bicycle race. Its being televised in 162 countries.

[dr.hee]

Tour of Alberta, ever heard of it? I haven't. Its a bicycle race. Its being televised in 162 countries.

:oldlol:

[Euroleague]

2013 Club World Cup Official Site:

http://www.fibaamericas.com/inter/en/default.asp?lang=en


2013 FIBA Intercontinental Cup Game 1:

Olympiacos 81 - Pinheiros 70

Box Score:

http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/18/09/32/76/20IVgdPIyaQ6/

[Euroleague]

2013 FIBA Intercontinental Cup Game 2:

Olympiacos 86 - Pinheiros 69


Game Report:

http://www.euroleague.net/events/euroleague-basketball-world-tour/i/119352/8216


Olympiacos is officially crowned the Basketball Club World Cup champion.


Vassilis Spanoulis was named the MVP.


http://www.redplanet.gr/dailyComments/article2443658.ece/BINARY/original/exo.jpg

[Euroleague]

http://www.sport24.gr/Basket/article2443343.ece/BINARY/w460/olym1.jpg

http://www.redplanet.gr/Euro2012-LiveWebTV/article2443664.ece/BINARY/w620/billy.jpg

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http://www.redplanet.gr/Euro2012-LiveWebTV/article2443661.ece/BINARY/w620/ole.jpg

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http://www.redplanet.gr/comment/article2443544.ece/BINARY/w620/ayti.jpg

[Euroleague]

Game 1 Highlights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yom2SFzRF4s


Game 2 Highlights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS7W31GcVvA

[talkingconch]

Not sure why someone just doesnt ban OP already.

Provides good entertainment though :oldlol:

[outbreak]

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[Euroleague]

They said that next year all the continents will play at the tournament.

[Wavves]

They aren't the world champs. It clearly says they are the Intercontinental Cup Champions :oldlol:

[dr.hee]

They aren't the world champs. It clearly says they are the Intercontinental Cup Champions :oldlol:

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Wavves]

Wow, it's fantastic to see the crowd stay til after the game and see the crowning of the Intercontinental Cup Champs.

http://www.redplanet.gr/Euro2012-LiveWebTV/article2443661.ece/BINARY/w620/ole.jpg

It's disappointing that the stadiums they play in are fairly small, but it's great to see them at least packed to the rafters full of fans in joy after their team has won this prestigious tournament

[Euroleague]

They aren't the world champs. It clearly says they are the Intercontinental Cup Champions :oldlol:

They are the world champions idiot. It's officially the world championship. It's called Intercontinental cup so as not to be confused with the FIBA World Championship.

Freaking idiot.

[dr.hee]

They aren't the world champs. It clearly says they are the Intercontinental Cup Champions :oldlol:

IT'S THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!! THEY CALL IT THAT WAY TO NOT BE CONFUSED WITH THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!

:lol

Freaking idiot.

[Euroleague]

IT'S THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!! THEY CALL IT THAT WAY TO NOT BE CONFUSED WITH THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!

:lol

Freaking idiot.

http://www.foxsports.com.br/noticias/123567-cinco-pontos-que-pode-decidir-pinheirossky-x-olympiacos-pelo-mundial

o dono da ta

[dr.hee]

[QUOTE=Euroleague]http://www.foxsports.com.br/noticias/123567-cinco-pontos-que-pode-decidir-pinheirossky-x-olympiacos-pelo-mundial

o dono da ta

[CanYouDigIt]

Wrong forum phaqqot

[Euroleague]

Official website of the INTERCONTINENTAL CUP (http://www.fibaamericas.com/inter/en/evento.asp?pag=02)



Competition names:

Intercontinental Cup: (1966–1972)
Intercontinental Cup "William Jones": (1973–1980)
World Cup for Champion Clubs "Club World Cup": (1981)
Intercontinental Cup "William Jones": (1982–1984)
World Cup for Champion Clubs "Club World Cup": (1985–1995)
Intercontinental Cup "William Jones": (1996–2013)
Intercontinental Cup "Intercontinental Cup of Clubs William Jones": (2013–Present)




So I know that redneck f*ckfaces like you probably don't comprehend this since your inbred albino eyes aren't that good I guess...but since you haven't killed yourself yet, you might consider it now.

Dude, seriously. Schizophrenia and alcohol abuse maybe? Is that your problem? :roll:

What the hell is wrong with you?

I just explained why it would not have the same name as the FIBA World Championship and then you posted something to confirm what I said.

You are creepier even than gabepizza.

Yeah like they are going to have two separate tournaments with the SAME name...................

You are truly certifiable and you just proved that.

[nathanjizzle]

looks like a really important event by all the fans that showed up. ive seen more people show up to the local open gym on friday night than this piece of shit event.

[dr.hee]

What the hell is wrong with you?

I just explained why it would not have the same name as the FIBA World Championship and then you posted something to confirm what I said.

You are creepier even than gabepizza.

Nope, it could've been called "World Basketball Club Championship" and nobody would've confused anything. But guess what f@gott, it isn't. Wanna know why? Because it isn't the World Championship. It's the Intercontinental Cup. I repeat...Intercontinental Cup. Intercontinental Cup. Intercontinental Cup.

:roll:

[Kblaze8855]

So when the NBA playoffs ends and they call them the world champions are you just going to pretend they arent doing it or get upset and argue that they shouldnt be doing it?

[dr.hee]

So when the NBA playoffs ends and they call them the world champions are you just going to pretend they arent doing it or get upset and argue that they shouldnt be doing it?

I guess the correct answer is...if you win the World Championship, you can call yourself World Champion. That's what the World Championship is for. Like in..."World Championship".

If you win the NBA, you're NBA champion.

If you win the Intercontinental Cup, you're the Intercontinental Cup champion...and get jizzed on your winner's picture in some trailer park in Arkansas...

[Euroleague]

http://www.linguasport.com/baloncesto/internacional/clubes/intercontinental/intercontinental_e.htm

The Intercontinental Cup is a competition gathering the champion clubs from different FIBA continental confederations with the purpose to officially decide "the best team in the world." This tournament has known two historical stages, separated by a period of 26 years: a first phase, between 1966 and 1987, and a second phase, from 2013 on.

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There is literally no end to the amount of trolling that goes on in this forum.

[Euroleague]

Nope, it could've been called "World Basketball Club Championship" and nobody would've confused anything. But guess what f@gott, it isn't. Wanna know why? Because it isn't the World Championship. It's the Intercontinental Cup. I repeat...Intercontinental Cup. Intercontinental Cup. Intercontinental Cup.

:roll:

http://www.linguasport.com/baloncesto/internacional/clubes/intercontinental/intercontinental_e.htm

The original Intercontinental Cup — officially known as World Cup for Champion Clubs — is a defunct competition gathering the best clubs from the continental federations affiliated to FIBA (therefore excluding the professional NBA teams). The Intercontinental Cup was actually a tournament intended to "officially" decide the best club of the world

In October 2013, however, the efforts of Euroleague and FIBA Americas to re-establish this competition crystallized in the "new" Intercontinental Cup, with the participation of the champions of Europe and America (extended in future editions with representatives from Asia, Africa and Oceania).

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The mods should give you a 3 day timeout.

[Euroleague]

So when the NBA playoffs ends and they call them the world champions are you just going to pretend they arent doing it or get upset and argue that they shouldnt be doing it?

1. Who is "they"?

2. The next NBA season has nothing to do with this. This title would have been for the Heat of 2012-13 to contest. The next season NBA team would be invited to the NEXT tournament of this. Not this one.

[dr.hee]

http://www.linguasport.com/baloncesto/internacional/clubes/intercontinental/intercontinental_e.htm

The Intercontinental Cup is a competition gathering the champion clubs from different FIBA continental confederations with the purpose to officially decide "the best team in the world." This tournament has known two historical stages, separated by a period of 26 years: a first phase, between 1966 and 1987, and a second phase, from 2013 on.

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There is literally no end to the amount of trolling that goes on in this forum.

So you admit that NBA teams were the World Champion from 1987 to 1999, when the McDonald's Championships replaced the Intercontinental Cup? In your link it says...


The last official edition of the "old" Intercontinental Cup was held in 1987. Between 1987 and 1999, the newly created McDonald's Championship, contested among different continental champions and a selected NBA team, replaced it as the "de facto" Club World Cup.

So basically...whenever an NBA played for this title, they won. Then it got boring :roll:

Oh, and you quoted this:

[QUOTE]The original Intercontinental Cup

[Euroleague]

I guess the correct answer is...if you win the World Championship, you can call yourself World Champion. That's what the World Championship is for. Like in..."World Championship".

If you win the NBA, you're NBA champion.

If you win the Intercontinental Cup, you're the Intercontinental Cup champion...and get jizzed on your winner's picture in some trailer park in Arkansas...

http://www.linguasport.com/baloncesto/internacional/clubes/intercontinental/intercontinental_e.htm

The Intercontinental Cup is a competition gathering the champion clubs from different FIBA continental confederations with the purpose to officially decide "the best team in the world." This tournament has known two historical stages, separated by a period of 26 years: a first phase, between 1966 and 1987, and a second phase, from 2013 on.

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kblaze you can give him a 3 day timeout anytime.

[sportjames23]

kblaze you can give him a 3 day timeout anytime.


The fvcking irony. :oldlol:

[CanYouDigIt]

The fvcking irony. :oldlol:
inb4

[Unbiased_one]

http://www.linguasport.com/baloncesto/internacional/clubes/intercontinental/intercontinental_e.htm

The Intercontinental Cup is a competition gathering the champion clubs from different FIBA continental confederations with the purpose to officially decide "the best team in the world." This tournament has known two historical stages, separated by a period of 26 years: a first phase, between 1966 and 1987, and a second phase, from 2013 on.

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kblaze you can give him a 3 day timeout anytime.

How do you explain the fact that when NBA teams entered the equivalent to this tournament (between 87 and 99) they won every year? :lo

[Euroleague]

So you admit that NBA teams were the World Champion from 1987 to 1999, when the McDonald's Championships replaced the Intercontinental Cup? In your link it says...



So basically...whenever an NBA played for this title, they won. Then it got boring :roll:

No, the NBA teams were not world champions "from 1987 to 1999".

Do you not even know that the McDonald's tournament was not every year?

There is no way that you have been an NBA fan for more than a few years. You are probably about 12 years old.

1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1993
1995
1997
1999

It didn't take place in 1992, 1994, 1996, or 1998. So NBA teams were not world champions "from 1987 to 1999".

[Euroleague]

It's a defunct competition. Meaning...IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

Damn, you dumb...

http://www.linguasport.com/baloncesto/internacional/clubes/intercontinental/intercontinental_e.htm

The Intercontinental Cup is a competition gathering the champion clubs from different FIBA continental confederations with the purpose to officially decide "the best team in the world." This tournament has known two historical stages, separated by a period of 26 years: a first phase, between 1966 and 1987, and a second phase, from 2013 on.

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Keep it up and I am sending abuse reports.

[Unbiased_one]

No, the NBA teams were not world champions "from 1987 to 1999".

Do you not even know that the McDonald's tournament was not ever year?

There is no way that you have been an NBA fan for more than few years. You are probably about 12 years old.

1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1993
1995
1997
1999

It didn't take place in 1992, 1994, 1996, or 1998. So NBA teams were not world champions "from 1987 to 1999".

If a tournament doesn't take place in a certain year, the defending champions hold the honour. Spain are currently football world champions. The USA are the Olympic rugby champions, believe it or not.

How do you explain the fact that an NBA team won every year one entered?

[Euroleague]

How do you explain the fact that when NBA teams entered the equivalent to this tournament (between 87 and 99) they won every year? :lo

That tournament was not "every year between 1987 and 1999".

Please get your facts right before you comment.

[Euroleague]

If a tournament doesn't take place in a certain year, the defending champions hold the honour. Spain are currently football world champions. The USA are the Olympic rugby champions, believe it or not.

How do you explain the fact that an NBA team won every year one entered?

But that's not what you asked. You asked, how come they won it every year between 1987 and 1999?

[dr.hee]

No, the NBA teams were not world champions "from 1987 to 1999".

Do you not even know that the McDonald's tournament was not ever year?

There is no way that you have been an NBA fan for more than few years. You are probably about 12 years old.

1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1993
1995
1997
1999

It didn't take place in 1992, 1994, 1996, or 1998. So NBA teams were not world champions "from 1987 to 1999".

Oh, I'm sorry. The correct sentences would've been: All the World Championships taking place between the years 1987 and 1999 were won by NBA teams. I specifically exclude years where there was no World Championship. So to clarify: In years where no World Championship was played, no team did win the respective World Championship. Mainly because it didn't take place. So if I'm saying that NBA teams were World Champions from 1987 to 1999 I'm only referring to tournaments that actually took place. By no means I'm claiming that NBA teams won cometitions that weren't played. I also didn't want to give the impression that "NBA teams", in the sense of multiple teams at once, were World Champions at the same time. The term "NBA teams" refers to different teams winning the competition in different years, not simultaneously.


I hope this helps you...we all know you're big on semantics and making sense in general...YOU LYING PIECE OF INBREED REDNECK PSYCHOPATH SHIT!!!!!

:lol

[Unbiased_one]

But that's not what you asked. You asked how come they won it every year between 1987 and 1999.

technically YOU ****ING LIAR ****** (as you might put it), I said 'between 87 and 99' which does not imply every year.

It's a bit like saying Italy were world cup champions between 1934 and 1950 (which is true, even though they only won it twice in that span)

[dr.hee]

technically YOU ****ING LIAR ****** (as you might put it), I said 'between 87 and 99' which does not imply every year.

It's a bit like saying Italy were world cup champions between 1934 and 1950 (which is true, even though they only won it twice in that span)

REPORTED!!! PERMA BAN!!! GONNA TWEET SPANOULIS ABOUT YOUR LIES!!! YOU NEED HELP!!!

:lol

[Euroleague]

First of all, it's two separate tournaments. Not the same one.

Interoncontinental Cup was the original world championship for basketball clubs. Then after that they made the McDonald's Championship, which also was not named "World Championship" because that name already existed, proving what a moron dr. hee is.

Anyway, it was two different tournaments. The first one existed a long time, then ended, then the second one came, then it ended.

Now the original one started again just this year. It's not hard to grasp.

Yes, in the years NBA teams actually played, yes, they won the world club championship.

This isn't hard to grasp. So like the Spurs won it in 1999. Now Olympiacos in 2013.

And of course this is FIBA, so it's official. McDonald's wasn't sanctioned by FIBA as far as I know, so those are actually not official.

But yes, NBA teams won for those years. What the hell does that have to do with THIS tournament? NBA got invited and they REFUSED to play in it.

So what exactly is your point?

[Euroleague]

technically YOU ****ING LIAR ****** (as you might put it), I said 'between 87 and 99' which does not imply every year.

It's a bit like saying Italy were world cup champions between 1934 and 1950 (which is true, even though they only won it twice in that span)

Because you added "every year" to it.

What exactly is your point anyway?

NBA teams won not this tournament, but something similar to it in what they had then. OK..................

What the **** does that have to do with THIS tournament? The NBA was invited and refused to participate. They have been supposedly invited for next year also.

All FIBA can do is invite them. They can't force them to play. But if you get invited to play and refuse to participate, you forfeit.

So what the hell is your point? They invited these teams and also the NBA, but the NBA wouldn't play.

Now, for next year they invited also Australia's league, Africa's league, and Asia's league, and they all accepted.

But the NBA, which is also invited for next year, has not answered. The tournament does not get voided because the NBA refuses to play. I don't get what your point is.

[Rooster]

Because you added "every year" to it.

What exactly is your point anyway?

NBA teams won not this tournament, but something similar to it in what they had then. OK..................

What the **** does that have to do with THIS tournament? The NBA was invited and refused to participate. They have been supposedly invited for next year also.

All FIBA can do is invite them. They can't force them to play. But if you get invited to play and refuse to participate, you forfeit.

So what the hell is your point? They invited these teams and also the NBA, but the NBA wouldn't play.

Now, for next year they invited also Australia's league, Africa's league, and Asia's league, and they all accepted.

But the NBA, which is also invited for next year, has not answered. The tournament does not get voided because the NBA refuses to play. I don't get what your point is.

It's a minor league tournament:facepalm

[dr.hee]

It's a minor league tournament:facepalm






It's a minor league tournament:facepalm













It's a minor league tournament:facepalm
















It's a minor league tournament:facepalm






















It's a minor league tournament:facepalm










































































































It's a minor league tournament:facepalm

[travelingman]

It's a minor league tournament

More accurately put, a minor *talent* tournament.

[Euroleague]

More accurately put, a minor *talent* tournament.

76ers 106 - Bilbao (from the league BELOW Euroleague level) 104

Looks like the NBA is the league with some minor league level teams.

[dr.hee]

76ers 106 - Bilbao (from the league BELOW Euroleague level) 104

Looks like the NBA is the league with some minor league level teams.

Yup, Philly sent a D-League team. So what? Still enough, lol.

[Euroleague]

Yup, Philly sent a D-League team. So what? Still enough, lol.

Says the clown that does not know the difference between Euroleague and Eurocup.

[dr.hee]

That's it. Endless trolling and attempting to derail the thread from you. Numerous times asking you to stop.

REPORTED TO ABUSE.

Just show me a post where I don't know the difference between Euroleague and Eurocup. For example, some guys said D-Will played in Euroleague. But I didn't. Wanna know why? Because as opposed to some inbred shithead living in a trash can in Arkansas with nothing but some newspapers to cover his body and his trusty Spanoulis action figure, I'm actually from Europe.

You're probably confusing me with the voices in your head.

:roll:

[gts]

The first edition of the new FIBA Americas and Euroleague Basketball Intercontinental Cup will take place at Arena Barueri in Sao Paulo, Brazil, in the first week of October.

So they (FIBA) knowingly schedule a "World Championship" during the NBA's first week of training camp and idiots wonder why the US isn't taking part :lol

FIBA's purposely avoiding having the best players/team show up to prop up their lower level talent

[Unbiased_one]

Because you added "every year" to it.




You clearly don't speak english properly...go reread what I wrote

[dr.hee]

So they (FIBA) knowingly schedule a "World Championship" during the NBA's first week of training camp and idiots wonder why the US isn't taking part :lol

FIBA's purposely avoiding having the best players/team show up to prop up their lower level talent

Exactly. NBA teams already have red vs. blue shirt scrimmages, so the Intercontinental Cup is redundant.

[niko]

That's it. Endless trolling and attempting to derail the thread from you. Numerous times asking you to stop.

REPORTED TO ABUSE.
Who is Abuse and why are you reporting people to him?

[Le Shaqtus]

Miami Heat World Champs, deal with it :pimp:

Heat would wipe the floor with Spanoulis, he'd get lock down worse than Rose in 2011. And he's not even athletic.

[dr.hee]

That's it. Endless trolling and attempting to derail the thread from you. Numerous times asking you to stop.

REPORTED TO ABUSE.

Derail the thread...from me? Dude, the thread is not about me. Just like it's not about the World Championship. It's about the...Intercontinental Cup. :cheers:

[Le Shaqtus]

Derail the thread...from me? Dude, the thread is not about me. Just like it's not about the World Championship. It's about the...Intercontinental Cup. :cheers:

The thread title needs to be changed, this is false advertising.

[Euroleague]

Official Olympiacos B.C. 2013 World Champion shirts are already available:

http://officialstore.olympiacosbc.gr/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30086

http://www.redplanet.gr/Euro2012-LiveWebTV/article2445171.ece/BINARY/w620/asd.jpg

[outbreak]

Official Olympiacos B.C. 2013 World Champion shirts are already available:

http://officialstore.olympiacosbc.gr/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30086

http://www.redplanet.gr/Euro2012-LiveWebTV/article2445171.ece/BINARY/w620/asd.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/334d4b761ad64e66832155ea07321fbe/tumblr_mudd0dIOMG1qz9ddwo1_500.jpg

[gabepizza]

76ers 106 - Bilbao (from the league BELOW Euroleague level) 104

Looks like the NBA is the league with some minor league level teams.

Yes but Bilbao is also in the Spanish league ACB and was 6th place and made the playoffs being eliminated by a Euroleague Final Four Team Barca. While Unicaja which was a Euroleague team and actually advanced to Top 16 in Euroleague was 9th place in the ACB and missed the playoffs.

So the national leagues are a lot closer to Euroleage than the Euroleague is to the NBA.

And must I remind Euroleague's record against the NBA the past 10 years.
15-41
Now talk about minor league.

[BlazerRed]

Well, for Olympiacos, they play about 15 preseason games, then about 70 games during the season, then about half of their team has to play about another 15 to 20 games with their national teams.

So it comes to about 85 games for about half of the team, and about 100-105 games for the other half of the team.

The Greek League also is from October to June.
Yeah but Greece lose to Nigeria..

[Euroleague]

Yes but Bilbao is also in the Spanish league ACB and was 6th place and made the playoffs being eliminated by a Euroleague Final Four Team Barca. While Unicaja which was a Euroleague team and actually advanced to Top 16 in Euroleague was 9th place in the ACB and missed the playoffs.

So the national leagues are a lot closer to Euroleage than the Euroleague is to the NBA.

And must I remind Euroleague's record against the NBA the past 10 years.
15-41
Now talk about minor league.

Every single Euroleague fan already said you are lying and full of shit in that Thunder - Fener thread. Even several of them said you were flat out crazy.

Shall we go get the posts from that thread exposing you for the fraud you are?

[Euroleague]

http://www.foxsports.com.br/noticias/123611-o-heroi-e-o-vilao-de-olympiacos-86-x-69-pinheiros-pelo-mundial-de-clubes

http://cdn.foxsports.com.br/sites/foxsports-br/files/img/notes/materia/620x465/basquete-olympiacos-campeao-taca-480-duda-bairros-foto-arena.jpg

Os gringos ficaram com o caneco e o armador [B]Vassilis Spanoulis recebeu o pr

[outbreak]

Every single Euroleague fan already said you are lying and full of shit in that Thunder - Fener thread. Even several of them said you were flat out crazy.

Shall we go get the posts from that thread exposing you for the fraud you are?
http://25.media.tumblr.com/869e4bfedb0c9cab66550d64bfa8b238/tumblr_mubdwmWwTr1qz9ddwo1_500.jpg

[outbreak]

[QUOTE=Euroleague]http://www.foxsports.com.br/noticias/123611-o-heroi-e-o-vilao-de-olympiacos-86-x-69-pinheiros-pelo-mundial-de-clubes

http://cdn.foxsports.com.br/sites/foxsports-br/files/img/notes/materia/620x465/basquete-olympiacos-campeao-taca-480-duda-bairros-foto-arena.jpg

Os gringos ficaram com o caneco e o armador [B]Vassilis Spanoulis recebeu o pr

[Euroleague]

Full Highlights of Game 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_EUwYZVgD8

Full Highlights of Game 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGW7QmZs2KY