assuming kobe comes back opening day. averages 28/6/5 and a top 5 seed

[kennethgriffin]

how does the league give mvp to lebron/durant or some other guy with a legendary kickstand helping them out


especially with lebron on the verge of matching jordans 5 mvps before age 30

or the fact that 3 in a row is nearly impossible

this could be the year kobe gets the first league mvp by an 18th year vet


http://i44.tinypic.com/vcw801.jpg

[LikeABosh]

Why the fvck would I assume that would happen?

[WayOfWade]

Assuming Kobe does average that, and does get the MVP, we'll know for sure that Wade got robbed in 09'.

[kennethgriffin]

Why the fvck would I assume that would happen?


because its possible.. the lakers arnt that bad. and i've never seen kobe more fired up to prove people wrong

i think 28ppg is being nice

he averaged 27 a game with howard and peace

take their 30+ppg off the team and i bet kobes 27 goes up more than 1ppg

he'l probably average 32-33ppg given the minutes

[Psycho]

FG % and PER would Lebron the nod because the media knows statistics rule sports.

[kennethgriffin]

Assuming Kobe does average that, and does get the MVP, we'll know for sure that Wade got robbed in 09'.

not really. cause kobe wasnt on a near 3 straight mvp spree yet. and the league already robbed him twice before

[plowking]

Kobe's never been good enough to win 2 MVP's. I doubt he suddenly gets on Lebron's level at age 36.

[dbk123]

Lol kobe tore his fcking Achilles. The only award that'd be possible for him this season is 6th man of the year:roll:

[livingby3's]

I'd like to be optimistic, but MDA is not a good coach to have for any player coming back from injury. I would be more worry about the health of the 3 Lakers stars than a mvp if I were u

[The Choken One]

Kobe's never been good enough to win 2 MVP's. I doubt he suddenly gets on Lebron's level at age 36.
this fhcking clown...

[LosScandalous]

Kobe's never been good enough to win 2 MVP's. I doubt he suddenly gets on Lebron's level at age 36.
:facepalm why do people call you a good heat fan?

[plowking]

:facepalm why do people call you a good heat fan?

Go on and show me where Kobe has deserved the other two MVP's that the OP talks about. Which years? I'll wait.

[thabisyo]

Kobe's never been good enough to win 2 MVP's. I doubt he suddenly gets on Lebron's level at age 36.

This :applause:

[GrapeApe]

This is ridiculous. MVP? The delusions seriously need to stop. If I were a Kobe/Laker fan I'd be THRILLED if he averaged 23-25/5/4 while leading the team to a 6-8 seed. That would be an exclellent and realistic accomplishment.

[LosScandalous]

Go on and show me where Kobe has deserved the other two MVP's that the OP talks about. Which years? I'll wait.

Well I would love clarify and if I had enough respect for you and your post I would do it.

[Heavincent]

It would make up for him getting robbed in 06 and 07 when it was clear to just about everyone that he was the best player in the league.

[livinglegend]

No.
If someone else have better stats with better seed, then there s no reason to give the award to Kobe.

[plowking]

Well I would love clarify and if I had enough respect for you and your post I would do it.

You can't? Cool.

My point stands.

[hawke812]

Why the fvck would I assume that would happen?

Grag Ogden hurts Lebron's chances of another MVP.:confusedshrug:

[plowking]

It would make up for him getting robbed in 06 and 07 when it was clear to just about everyone that he was the best player in the league.

Robbed, with the 12th best record in the league in 06. And the 13th best in 07.

MVP's clearly get given out to players on these type of teams. :oldlol:

[Straight_Ballin]

Hahahahahahahaha Kobe beef boy isn't even sniffing Durant next season let alone LeFraud... Come back to earth and let me know when the intelligent bball discussion is about to take place.

[LA Lakers]

Kobe was playing out of his mind in 06. Definitely his peak year as an offensive force and the most dominant scoring Ive seen since Jordan was 06/07 Kobe Bean. It's amazing how bad his supporting cast was and he still managed to get us into the playoffs that year. And does anyone not think Kobes gonna come back and drop something like 30 his first game post Achilles?

[LA Lakers]

Didn't Steve Nash get MVP in 06? anybody really think it belonged to Nash and not Kobe? Come on now...

[plowking]

Didn't Steve Nash get MVP in 06? anybody really think it belonged to Nash and not Kobe? Come on now...

Yes.

Go through history and find me a time where a player not in the top 3 seed in their conference has won an MVP. Kobe's not special, or any different. The criteria for MVP has always been the same pretty much.

[LosScandalous]

Yes.

Go through history and find me a time where a player not in the top 3 seed in their conference has won an MVP. Kobe's not special, or any different. The criteria for MVP has always been the same pretty much.

http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/lakers/season_photos/season_2006_2007.jpg

If you can't count at least 10 scrubs on this picture than you're a lunatic. Don't be a brick wall, we get it you hate Kobe but don't delude yourself in thinking Kobe had good teammates during his peak.

[LA Lakers]

Plowking, if Kobe isn't on the 06 Lakers does that team come anywhere close to finishing with a winning record?

[All Net]

He won't be back for opening night..not even close.

[LA Lakers]

Anyway, Kobe was the best basketball player in the world in 06. If you don't think he deserved MVP whatever. All good. But Kobe meant more to that Lakers team than most people realize now. And it is impressive that we got something like 45 wins that season. Look at that picture man. That supporting cast...

[plowking]

Plowking, if Kobe isn't on the 06 Lakers does that team come anywhere close to finishing with a winning record?

Do any of Jordan's teams early in his career? How about Wade's in 09 and 10? How about Lebron's? All these guys put up ridiculous stats of 30+ppg and none of them won MVP.

No, they don't. That's my answer. Its the case with a lot of stars and their teams. It doesn't make him the MVP though.

Hes deserved 1 in his career, and he got it.

[tpols]

Do any of Jordan's teams early in his career? How about Wade's in 09 and 10? How about Lebron's? All these guys put up ridiculous stats of 30+ppg and none of them won MVP.

No, they don't. That's my answer. Its the case with a lot of stars and their teams. It doesn't make him the MVP though.

Hes deserved 1 in his career, and he got it.
Shaq deserved one in his career too.. for extenuating circumstances. He missed a lot of games, had Kobe so niether was considered for a while there(they like giving it to the sole superstar that carried defensive role players aka scrubs).. and he only deserved 1 mvp.

So what? Doesnt mean Shaq wasnt a great player, just means he didnt fulfill the criteria as well as some players that were worse than him, like AI getting it because he was the lone superstar, or Nash getting it.. or derrick rose getting it. They were all worse players that happened to win the award.. so who cares? They just fulfilled the criteria better. Didnt have as much impact on the court

[DuMa]

team stands no chance of a higher 4 seed so kiss your MVP dreams goodbye, kobe fanboys.

[Fawker]

once again there is no mvp talk. that achilles tendon will snap right back i guarantee you. once you go through it it is not for rigorous stress, not for grandma's, not for anyone. we are wishful thinking. he is done.

[thabisyo]

Grag Ogden hurts Lebron's chances of another MVP.:confusedshrug:

I dont agree with you but I do believe that he cares more about the DPOY and the FMVP that regular season MVP. He needs to get that DPOY now :bowdown:

[Haks]

I think its Durants time...

[plowking]

Shaq deserved one in his career too.. for extenuating circumstances. He missed a lot of games, had Kobe so niether was considered for a while there(they like giving it to the sole superstar that carried defensive role players aka scrubs).. and he only deserved 1 mvp.

So what? Doesnt mean Shaq wasnt a great player, just means he didnt fulfill the criteria as well as some players that were worse than him, like AI getting it because he was the lone superstar, or Nash getting it.. or derrick rose getting it. They were all worse players that happened to win the award.. so who cares? They just fulfilled the criteria better. Didnt have as much impact on the court

Shaq, probably deserved 2, and could have gotten 3, if going by the unwritten criteria of the media was followed. Shaq has more of a case to this than Kobe.

I never said Kobe wasn't great, and if you took my first post in this thread as serious, then good for you... :facepalm
Fact is, Kobe fans constantly get on this parade of Kobe deserving more than hes gotten, when its not the case.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yes.

Go through history and find me a time where a player not in the top 3 seed in their conference has won an MVP. Kobe's not special, or any different. The criteria for MVP has always been the same pretty much.
Some guy named Kareem...

[plowking]

Some guy named Kareem...

Exactly. You need to go back 30+ years to find a case of it happening.

[kennethgriffin]

Exactly. You need to go back 30+ years to find a case of it happening.

and when was the last time a guy played at the level of kobe bryant in his 17th year


same dude... coincidence?

[Wavves]

Lebron averages similar statistics with the best record in the league. The MVP would go to Bron because of the better record.

Lakers ain't making 5th seed too, I can see them sneaking in again for a low seed, but 5th is a pipe dream.

[Wavves]

I predict somebody like Durant winning the MVP anyway, voters fatigue has got to kick in sometime now, surely.

[SpurrDurr]

In the next 2 years Durant and Lebron will win one MPV each.

If Kobe manages to have 18-20 ppg 5 assists and a decent % after being back from a serious injury i'll really be happy, i want him still being competitive when he ll retire.

[LosScandalous]

Lebron averages similar statistics with the best record in the league. The MVP would go to Bron because of the better record.

Lakers ain't making 5th seed too, I can see them sneaking in again for a low seed, but 5th is a pipe dream.
:no:

Lakers can make a 5th seed this year and I see it happening

The biggest difference between this years team and last years team is that we don't have any scrubs on this current roster like Metta, Morris, Jamison, Duhon, Ebanks, and Goudelock... All proven players or potentially really good players this time around

and numero uno why the Lakers will be better than last year. Dantoni doesn't have to cater to Dwight Coward's needs anymore. No more forced cringeworthy 0 post move bichass attempts from the worst offensive big in the league. Kobe and Nash get similar ball time and when they're cold, Wes, Nick, and Pau can show up.

It's criminal how underrated the lakers are after losing that pusy fuc boi dwight.

[Wavves]

:no:

Lakers can make a 5th seed this year and I see it happening

The biggest difference between this years team and last years team is that we don't have any scrubs on this current roster like Metta, Morris, Jamison, Duhon, Ebanks, and Goudelock... All proven players or potentially really good players this time around

and numero uno why the Lakers will be better than last year. Dantoni doesn't have to cater to Dwight Coward's needs anymore. No more forced cringeworthy 0 post move bichass attempts from the worst offensive big in the league. Kobe and Nash get similar ball time and when they're cold, Wes, Nick, and Pau can show up.

It's criminal how underrated the lakers are after losing that pusy fuc boi dwight.

Lakers played some of the worst defense in the league last year, especially on the perimeter. You can hate on Dwight all you like for playing like shit if that's what you think, but his impact inside was HUGE. I'm not sure where I saw the statistics, but I read that statistically the Lakers inside defense was better than Houston's all year with Asik, and one of the best in the league. Dwight made the Lakers defense statistically overall one of the better defensive teams. Without him you will play terrible defense inside and out, you really will. This is why I think you will not make it any higher than a 7th seed.

[Flash31]

so lets get this straight
you and all the other kobe N uthuggers believe that
Kobe will get MVP

SO REPLACING Howard with Kaman,Gasol getting older and slower as well as Nash,losing Hill and MWP

Having almost absolutely 0 defense

will somehow make the Lakers better and go from a 6th seed barely to one of the top 4-5 best teams in the league


The only way Kobe wins MVP is if the entire media is on Kobes nuts or Laker biased which for the most part it is,but at the same time the MVP would get laughed at and disgraced if it happened

Youre saying that LAL will have a better record than SA,OKC,Mia,CHI,IND,LAC,GS,BKN,MEM

all while most of those teams improved and had better records than the Lakers last year with Dwight Howard

Bc there is absolutely no way you can give MVP to somebody whos not a top 5 team at least
just bc they came back from injury and on top of that are still putting up inferior stats to other MVP candidates


LAL still have D'Antoni,They lost their frontcourt bench,and have gotten way less defense

Nick Young may be able to score,certainly not efficiently but the starting 5 has basically 0 defense and is old

Nash,Kobe,Gasol,Kaman
all 30 plus,their bench is horrible
and for the Lakers just to make the playoffs last year with Howard and a healthy Kobe
Kobe was playing 43-48 min a game along with
Howard and Gasol and Nash logging heavy min

and now you replace Howards defense with Kamans


Kobe Fans,logic,common sense,reality,NOT EVEN ONCE

[EnoughSaid]

If Kobe comes back, goes apeshit like you said at 28/6/6, especially if its good efficiency, and his team wins 55 games, then yeah, he'll get it. But the likelihood of that happening is slimmer than LeBron evolving into a better player and Miami winning close to 70 games.

[Haks]

So Kobe Bryant is going to match his career high for assists again lmao. If kobe SOMEHOW puts up 28ppg aint no way he is doing that about 46% shooting and more than 5 assist per game

[Lakers2877]

Kobes gonna be the MVP just like I'm gonna be the 6th man of the year

[Lebron23]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs6/2035622_o.gif

[Cali Syndicate]

I predict somebody like Durant winning the MVP anyway, voters fatigue has got to kick in sometime now, surely.

They'll give it to Curry instead.
:pimp:

[Unbiased_one]

Well I would love clarify and if I had enough respect for you and your post I would do it.

Excuses excuses. Fact is, Kobe really only even has arguments in two years, and they're not particularly strong ones.

OP: if that does happen, which is unlikely, I will take my hat off to him.

[rhythmic]

Go on and show me where Kobe has deserved the other two MVP's that the OP talks about. Which years? I'll wait.

You said Kobe was never good enough; that's completely different then saying he never deserved two.

In 2001 & 2002 he played like an MVP caliber player but he played alongside the best player in the game. From 05' to 07' he played like the best player in the game but on a bad team. In 2008 he won the MVP and I believe it was his best overall season (in terms of being an overall great player, being a good leader, playmaker & defender).

MVP is a media driven award and no one sucks LeBron's dick more then the media, which includes you and all the Heat trolls on this forum.

You pair LeBron with Shaquille, and give him Smush/Mihm/Kwame/Walton/Odom as his main core and I bet you any money you'd be signing the same tune right now about him only having 1 MVP.

[Unbiased_one]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[rhythmic]

Lebron's first mvp was in 2009, the 6th season of his career. Playing with shaq wouldn't have affected his last 3 mvps (if he had shaq for the same period Kobe did). You forget than lebron had two 60 win teams with a supporting cast about as good as kobe's in 06 and 07. And you show the ignorance that Kobe and lebron stans share when you say he was the best in 05, when even I can tell you he was injured.

:roll:
Yeah if we didn't take into consideration, defense.

[plowking]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[rhythmic]

Like I said, if you took my first post seriously about him not being good enough, then have fun. Truth is, hes never deserved a second MVP.

Lebron's won with a great cast, and a terrible one. Your point is moot. Lebron is just a better player than Kobe, but I'm sure you'd never admit to that being a Laker fan.

:oldlol: LeBron never won shit with "bad" teammates, all he did was choke over and over again. His teammates in Cleveland were not good offensively, but they were spectacular defensively and were a perfect fit for LeBron's game. They basically allowed him to ball hog every possession for 15+ seconds; he had the ball in his hands every possession and they hustled defensively for all 48 minutes. They did all the small things for that team and allowed LeBron to carry the load offensively.

It's a similar team to what Iverson had in Philly in 2001. At least Iverson was able to win 1 game in the NBA finals. :facepalm

LeBron is better then Kobe right now and has been since 2010, but in their prime? It would depend on what I needed from my superstar. Kobe in 2006 was a one-man show; LeBron will never touch Kobe's overall scoring prowess.
We can compare numbers all we want but they play two different positions and LeBron is much bigger then Kobe. His rebounding numbers (as well as blocking shots) should obviously be higher and he is a better play-maker; but Kobe is also a spectacular playmaker and is one of the better rebounders at his position. 2000-2004 Kobe is clearly a better man-to-man defender while LeBron is a more dominant weak-side defender. Scoring? Kobe all day.

You pick your poison, it's unfortunate that both players aren't in their prime at the same time. LeBron did get the best of Kobe during their respective careers but that's a 30 year old Kobe competing against a 24 year old LeBron. If the situation was reversed, Kobe would probably have the upper hand too. Imagine a 34 year old LeBron against a 27 year old Kobe? :oldlol: Wouldn't be pretty for LeBron.

[Unbiased_one]

:roll:
Yeah if we didn't take into consideration, defense.

The 2006 lakers were 15th in oppg, the 2007 cavs 5th. Now we have to isolate out lebron and kobe's contributions. Both are excellent defenders, although lebron wasn't quite as good then. However in 06 (and even more so in 07) Kobe didn't really try to play defense, which would somewhat contribute to their overall mediocrity. It is also worth noting that most of the league best offenses played in the west.

[rhythmic]

The 2006 lakers were 15th in oppg, the 2007 cavs 5th. Now we have to isolate out lebron and kobe's contributions. Both are excellent defenders, although lebron wasn't quite as good then. However in 06 (and even more so in 07) Kobe didn't really try to play defense, which would somewhat contribute to their overall mediocrity. It is also worth noting that most of the league best offenses played in the west.

If you actually watched the 2006 Lakers you'd know that OPPG is a bad stat to compare. Lakers had no structure offensively, and relied on Kobe to score every possession. Kobe consistently was doubled/tripled teamed because no one on that team besides an inconsistent Odom was a threat to score. Therefore, most of the time Kobe used up the shot clock in the half-court before jacking up a desperation shot.

You need to consider how many possessions the 06's Lakers gave their opposition; I'm guessing not that many considering they had zero flow offensively and therefore wasted the shot clock almost every possession in the half court (which obviously limits the possessions for their opponents to score).

[Unbiased_one]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Unbiased_one]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[rhythmic]

The 06 lakers actually had a higher pace than the 07 cavs...and oppg stands for opponent ppg.

Not surprising, LeBron held the ball for 15+ seconds every possession.
Cleveland were a terrible half-court team as well. But if you honestly believe that LeBron's teammates didn't have a much bigger impact defensively then what Kobe had around him in 2006, then go watch some film!!

[Unbiased_one]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Kblaze8855]

MVP is a media driven award and no one sucks LeBron's dick more then the media

This is such an awful argument every time. There isnt a single one of Lebrons 4 MVPs that any other group of people would have given to someone else.

Like it takes media bias to give the MVP to a guy doing 28/8/7 on a 66 win team with average talent or 30/9/7 shooting 51% on a 61 win team that only didnt win 65 or so because he sat out a week to end the year and they lost every game. Dudes having 33 point 11 assist months. His #2 Mo Williams goes down so he...at 6'8'' 270 pounds....steps in at point and has the following games during a 13 game winning streak without Mo:

37/9/5
37/12/9
32/9/4
12/11/6(blowout win...low minutes)
22/13/9
36/8/7
47/8/8

Then back, to back, to back 30+ point 10+ assist games with 43/15/13 to cap it.

There isnt a respectable sports fan alive who didnt have him as MVP. He won by the second largest margin ever after 2000 Shaq. He doubled durants total in voting points.

And it wasnt even the best season of his career. Or second best....

He came within one joke of a Carmelo Anthony vote from being undisputed MVP this year...

Lebron would have won every MVP he did no matter if you polled players, coaches, GMs, fans, or team janitor grandmothers.

Now....Kobe might have won in 07 given a fan vote. Or a player vote.

But Lebron wins all 4 of his no matter who is asked.

[rhythmic]

This is such an awful argument every time. There isnt a single one of Lebrons 4 MVPs that any other group of people would have given to someone else.

Like it takes media bias to give the MVP to a guy doing 28/8/7 on a 66 win team with average talent or 30/9/7 shooting 51% on a 61 win team that only didnt win 65 or so because he sat out a week to end the year and they lost every game. Dudes having 33 point 11 assist months. His #2 Mo Williams goes down so he...at 6'8'' 270 pounds....steps in at point and has the following games during a 13 game winning streak without Mo:

37/9/5
37/12/9
32/9/4
12/11/6(blowout win...low minutes)
22/13/9
36/8/7
47/8/8

Then back, to back, to back 30+ point 10+ assist games with 43/15/13 to cap it.

There isnt a respectable sports fan alive who didnt have him as MVP. He won by the second largest margin ever after 2000 Shaq. He doubled durants total in voting points.

And it wasnt even the best season of his career. Or second best....

He came within one joke of a Carmelo Anthony vote from being undisputed MVP this year...

Lebron would have won every MVP he did no matter if you polled players, coaches, GMs, fans, or team janitor grandmothers.

Now....Kobe might have won in 07 given a fan vote. Or a player vote.

But Lebron wins all 4 of his no matter who is asked.

Did I ever say LeBron didn't deserve his 4 MVPs? :facepalm
The reason I said MVP is a media driven award is because guys like Shaquille were the best player (on a dynasty Laker team) that consistently won 50+ games every season and had some epic playoff runs (15-1). Yet the guy only has 1 MVP when he was CLEARLY the best player from 2000 to 2002. How about Steve Nash? The guy has 2 MVP awards, or better yet buddy since you're a notorious Jordan nut rider; how the **** do you justify Jordan winning the MVP over Karl Malone in 98'.

LeBron was the best player (on a great team) during his 4 MVP's and he deserves them, but the inconsistency at giving these awards is rather questionable to me: which is why it's a media driven award. They have their agenda's and they are trying their best to decorate LeBron as the next Jordan.

Kobe is a media darling too (not so much by ESPN) but he was overshadowed by Shaq (early in his career), played for some bad teams during his peak years and then was a little too old when he started winning again. He did win in 2008, but he was already turning 30 so the circumstances prevented him from accumulating multiple awards. If he had a solid team from 2000-2006, and say Shaq never had another superstar to pair up with...I can see Kobe retiring with about 2-3 MVP awards.

But going back to LeBron; it wasn't so much of me questioning whether he deserved it, it has more to do with other great players like Shaq (who both dominated and won) never receiving as much love from the media as LeBron has.

Unless you're going to sit there and tell me Iverson really deserved the MVP over Shaquille in 2001? Bottom line, Shaq was the undisputed most dominant force we arguably have ever seen in league history during that 3-pear and he only received 1 MVP award.

[Knoe Itawl]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[rhythmic]

Why are you guys such clowns? I get loving your favorite player, that's all good and I get defending him and all that.

But your'e HONESTLY going to tell me that the media wasn't on Kobe's nuts from the earliest stages of his career because of his Jordan mimicry and the fact that they were (as always) trying to find "the next" and he was in the largest media market in the NBA? I mean, geez, at least TRY not to be a blatant hypocrite. The media isnt what stopped Kobe from getting more than 1 MVP it was that he NEVER FIT THE CRITERIA GIVEN FOR THE AWARD in those years. Whine, cry all you want but fans of a whole bunch of other players who carried scrub teams while putting up great numbers could also whine. Bryant isn't so special that he gets different rules. Sorry.

I did say media LOVED Bryant bro, calm down.
His circumstances prevented him from qualifying for the MVP criteria, as I've also explained.

[rhythmic]

Knoe Itawl, serious question for you bro.
How come you only target Kobe fans, but yet never LeBron fans... there are a ton of them on this forum as well.

Doesn't that make you the hypocrite?

[qrich]

Assuming Khald El-Amin steals LeBron, Paul and Durant's talent, ala Monstarz, joins the NBA, averages 35/13/15 and a top 7 seed.

Is he the G.O.A.T.

[rhythmic]

Assuming Khald El-Amin steals LeBron, Paul and Durant's talent, ala Monstarz, joins the NBA, averages 35/13/15 and a top 7 seed.

Is he the G.O.A.T.

Not if he plays for the Clippers all his career.
He still won't win any championships, or receive any finals MVP.
He can win 15+ regular season MVPs but without playoff success he ain't surpassing Jordan.

[qrich]

Who said anything about any specific team again?

It is kind of cute though.

[Knoe Itawl]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[rhythmic]

This was after I had responded to your post, so it seemed like you were just talking about the media and Bron.

:cheers: All good bro.

[Knoe Itawl]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Knoe Itawl]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[branslowski]

And sorry for the harshness. I've been battling hordes of Bryant fanatics for so long, I sometimes forget that there are reasonable ones far and few between. :D

It's a difference between fighting Kobe stans saying "Kobe>>Jordan" and blatantly stepping in every Kobe thread being a hater..."Kobe will never win without Shaq":facepalm

[Heavincent]

Knoe Itawl is still upset about his laughably wrong prediction about Kobe never winning without Shaq :oldlol:

[Nash]

With Durant only having Westbrook on his side, Kobe will never get it. OKC will probably finish above the Lakers. If you look closely, the Thunder are shit.

[plowking]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Cali Syndicate]

What is the inconsistency in the MVP voting? There is none. Its always gone to a player on a top 3 seed in each conference every year for the last 30 years.
How are they trying to decorate Lebron with awards? He keeps winning. Comfortably for the sake of argument. Every year he won, no one was close.

Shaq got robbed in 2001. Yes. Big deal. That's the only arguable one along with Jordan and Malone, but in the end they ended up making up for it by giving it to the other guy the year after.

Shaq got robbed in 05 too. Nah should have one MVP at most, 06 only. Shaq should have 3

[9erempiree]

I wouldn't be surprised if he did average that.

[Rose'sACL]

Assuming Durant averaged 40-10-10 and got OKC to 79 wins, would he win the MVP?
How about if lebron averaged 30-15-15 and got heat to 80 wins?

See, I can do it too OP.