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SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 01:04 PM
I feel like there is always an excuse factory waiting for anything involving Kobe or Wilt.

Fudge
08-12-2013, 01:06 PM
LeBron on Cleveland.

kNicKz
08-12-2013, 01:07 PM
Lebron

IncarceratedBob
08-12-2013, 01:08 PM
LeBron. The one time the best team in the league wasnt good enough.

Fudge
08-12-2013, 01:10 PM
A tie between LeBrons run in Cleveland or LeBron in '11 Finals. Your choice.

NumberSix
08-12-2013, 01:12 PM
A tie between LeBrons run in Cleveland or LeBron in '11 Finals. Your choice.
Who makes excuses for LeBron's 2011 finals?

kNicKz
08-12-2013, 01:14 PM
Who makes excuses for LeBron's 2011 finals?

*cue Lion essay*

TheMarkMadsen
08-12-2013, 01:16 PM
This decade? Lebron easily. Towards the end of game 6 they were already getting the excuses ready even though Lebron had laid an egg in the game up to that point.

Kobe gets crucified even when they win.

jimmy77x
08-12-2013, 01:16 PM
CP3, and Lebron

Fudge
08-12-2013, 01:16 PM
Who makes excuses for LeBron's 2011 finals?
Who else? Dem stans.

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 01:16 PM
No one really makes excuses for it, but its pretty much considered sacrilegious to bring up any of Hakeem or Shaq's shortcomings. Big men seem to get off the hood pretty easily unless it's David Robinson

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 01:17 PM
Lebron James is number one in this category, what a coward:roll:

kurple
08-12-2013, 01:17 PM
LeBron

VIntageNOvel
08-12-2013, 01:18 PM
past: his teammates isnt good enough,

now: his superstar teammates isnt enough

the best one was when pauk created a thread sayin how wade has cost miami 2011 championship by not let lebron doing his thing :lol

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 01:18 PM
CP3, and Lebron
I agree Cp3 definitely do:facepalm

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 01:18 PM
This decade? Lebron easily. Towards the end of game 6 they were already getting the excuses ready even though Lebron had laid an egg in the game up to that point.

Kobe gets crucified even when they win.

When you shit the bed and shoot 6-24 in the biggest game of career...while being carried by your teammates.......people are going to criticize him. When it comes to impact of top 10-12 players all time, Kobe has the least on the game. Dude is just a scoring sideshow without the most stacked frontcourt in the league.

Fudge
08-12-2013, 01:20 PM
:oldlol:

Kobe with a stacked front court << LeBron with a stacked team

VIntageNOvel
08-12-2013, 01:21 PM
When you shit the bed and shoot 6-24 in the biggest game of career...while being carried by your teammates.......people are going to criticize him. When it comes to impact of top 10-12 players all time, Kobe has the least on the game. Dude is just a scoring sideshow without the most stacked frontcourt in the league.

2007
2011
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310163
diaw

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 01:21 PM
past: his teammates isnt good enough,

now: his superstar teammates isnt enough

the best one was when pauk created a thread sayin how wade has cost miami 2011 championship by not let lebron doing his thing :lol

He won a ring with Bosh scoring 0 points and Wade playing on one leg. Your favorite player has no notable playoff highlights and the same amount of Finals MVP in despite playing several years longer. Ouch :oldlol:

jlip
08-12-2013, 01:22 PM
Whoever gets the most criticism

VIntageNOvel
08-12-2013, 01:23 PM
He won a ring with Bosh scoring 0 points and Wade playing on one leg. Your favorite player has no notable playoff highlights and the same amount of Finals MVP in despite playing several years longer. Ouch :oldlol:


but i thought lebron make his teammates better? :confusedshrug:
what happens to all star 20-10 franchise player bosh and 2006-2011 FMVP wade? :eek:

so you admit you only watch highlight and boxscore? :confusedshrug:

TheMarkMadsen
08-12-2013, 01:23 PM
When you shit the bed and shoot 6-24 in the biggest game of career...while being carried by your teammates.......people are going to criticize him. When it comes to impact of top 10-12 players all time, Kobe has the least on the game. Dude is just a scoring sideshow without the most stacked frontcourt in the league.

Recycled garbage :rolleyes:

Flash31
08-12-2013, 01:25 PM
I feel like there is always an excuse factory waiting for anything involving Kobe or Wilt.

Wilt played against the GOAT TEAM OF ALL TIME

NO Team even COMES CLOSE

That BOSTON Celtics TEAM Had over 8 HALL of Famers at the SAME Time.

Itll be like today you have a team of

8 Future Hall of Famers,basically any 8 multiple all stars with one of the best c and pg and sg

Shaq-Kobe ran the League,
Jordans Bulls ran the league

now imagine adding 4-6 more HALL OF Famers and Multiple time all stars on those teams

That was Basically the Boston Celtics

and even then WILTs teams lost in game 7s by 2-4 pts
and WILT Outplayed his competition,his teammates faltered badly

Fudge
08-12-2013, 01:25 PM
Think i've read that paragraph from Silkk before. Dude loves to abuse dat copy+paste function.

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 01:27 PM
but i thought lebron make his teammates better? :confusedshrug:
what happens to all star 20-10 franchise player bosh and 2006-2011 FMVP wade? :eek:

Injuries sadly. We all saw what Wade could do during the winning streak. Once his leg went out, he slowed down. And Bosh, what his his excuse? :oldlol: Birdman had more of an impact than Bosh for most of the playoffs. A guy that was unemployed to start the season. And Kobe? He loses in the 1st round unless his frontcourt is the best in the league. Hell, he even missed the playoffs in his prime :eek: Like I said, he is no more than scoring sideshow without a stacked froncourt. The guy was Allen Iverson with a rape accusation :oldlol:

riseagainst
08-12-2013, 01:27 PM
LeBron on Cleveland.

this.

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 01:30 PM
I almost feel bad for the Kobe fans that still believe he is the better player. Extreme cases of denial :eek:

kshutts1
08-12-2013, 01:31 PM
A lot of the "excuses" are valid, particularly considering the overrating of titles/FMVP on ISH.

Honestly, the point of the game is for the team to win, but one man can do only so much.

SamuraiSWISH
08-12-2013, 01:33 PM
LeBron's lack of character gets a lot of excuses due to his exceptional talent. You can't overlook the non physical attributes, though.

Just2McFly
08-12-2013, 01:36 PM
Lol at these responses. I'm going to say Durant. People blame Westbrook for everything and never get at Durant

scm5
08-12-2013, 01:38 PM
Seems like the thread backfired on OP

Fudge
08-12-2013, 01:41 PM
:roll:

Yo guys, what kinda tunes do you listen to when your getting a lap dance at da titty bar? I like listening to Trinidad James and Drake.

tmacattack33
08-12-2013, 01:42 PM
Chris Paul.

He's had the title of best PG in the NBA for years, even though he might not have deserved and it's sort of just a carry over from 2008 and 2009.

Twiens
08-12-2013, 01:42 PM
Thread backfire :oldlol:

Fudge
08-12-2013, 01:46 PM
When you shit the bed and shoot 6-24 in the biggest game of career...while being carried by your teammates.......people are going to criticize him. When it comes to impact of top 10-12 players all time, Kobe has the least on the game. Dude is just a scoring sideshow without the most stacked frontcourt in the league.
Kobe wet the bed with that performance. We can all agree on that.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg

This man just flat out shit the bed.

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 01:47 PM
Chris Paul.

He's had the title of best PG in the NBA for years, even though he might not have deserved and it's sort of just a carry over from 2008 and 2009.

I find it weird how he gets no blame for last season's playoffs.

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 01:49 PM
Kobe wet the bed with that performance. We can all agree on that.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg

This man just flat out shit the bed.
:oldlol: ethered and end thread at tha same damn time:roll:

Jameerthefear
08-12-2013, 01:50 PM
Cleveland Lebron. Not even close.

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 01:51 PM
Cleveland Lebron. Not even close.
Miami Lebron too:oldlol:

Flash31
08-12-2013, 01:52 PM
Kobe wet the bed with that performance. We can all agree on that.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg

This man just flat out shit the bed.



yEAH 4TH QUARTER
tRUE

But youre forgetting somebody else's play which was way way worse

2004 NBA Finals
KOBE Bryant

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 01:55 PM
Hilarious the same posters want my attention in every thread :oldlol: Keep fishing, peons :applause:

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 01:57 PM
yEAH 4TH QUARTER
tRUE

But youre forgetting somebody else's play which was way way worse

2004 NBA Finals
KOBE Bryant
When did kobe score 0 points in tha fourth quarter?:lol

Fudge
08-12-2013, 01:57 PM
Trying to get somebody's attention and getting clowned on are two different things. :oldlol:

JellyBean
08-12-2013, 02:05 PM
Pat Ewing comes to mind. Also Lebron on those 08-09 & 09-10 Cavs teams.

Leviathon1121
08-12-2013, 02:07 PM
Don't know how the answer can be anything other then Kobe. Lebron is getting up there, but honestly, we have had a good 10 years of Kobe stans constantly degrading the accomplishments of players in the top 10. They pick apart their careers with a microscope while making excuses when people react and do the same thing to Bryant.

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 02:08 PM
Pat Ewing comes to mind. Also Lebron on those 08-09 & 09-10 Cavs teams.
Pat Ewing dont get excuses, they talked about him bad, on tha other hand they always and still call queen Lebron king:lol :facepalm

Doranku
08-12-2013, 02:08 PM
n!gga this could be a question on "Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader?" I could go ask this question at the local retirement home and grandma's would be jumping outta their wheelchairs screaming "LEBRON!" as the answer.

NBASTATMAN
08-12-2013, 02:10 PM
KOBE AND LEBRON... :rockon:

Legends66NBA7
08-12-2013, 02:11 PM
Karl Malone and John Stockton, IMO.

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 02:12 PM
Don't know how the answer can be anything other then Kobe. Lebron is getting up there, but honestly, we have had a good 10 years of Kobe stans constantly degrading the accomplishments of players in the top 10. They pick apart their careers with a microscope while making excuses when people react and do the same thing to Bryant.
Kobe have 5 rings, 1 mvp, 2 fmvp and stayed on one team meanwhile "no heart" Lebron have 2 asterisk rings, 3 out of 4 asterisk mvps, and 2 asterisk fmvps and became a coward when tha tough got going and joined two other superstars aka two east starters to win championships tha easiest way possible.:coleman:

Doranku
08-12-2013, 02:13 PM
KOBE AND LEBRON... :rockon:
When you say Kobe, you must be talking about the excuses that his detractors use because fans don't need to make excuses. His resume speaks for itself.

"b-b-b-b-but Shaq!!! 29/7/6 is irrelevant!"
"b-b-b-b-but Phil Jackson!"
"b-b-b-b-but most stacked frontcourt ever with 6/3 Bynum and Odom who isn't even in the league anymore!"
"b-b-b-b-but CP3 deserved that MVP!"
"b-b-b-b-but 6-24! 6-17, 7 foot Pau Gasol who didn't make the trip to Boston deserves FMVP!"

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 02:13 PM
Karl Malone and John Stockton, IMO.
at least malone was on tha jazz most of his career, and stockton stayed on tha jazz and is tha all time assists leader he gets a pass.

(e)
08-12-2013, 02:16 PM
This decade is definitely Lebron.

Thread backfire for sure el oh el. Silk madddd

SamuraiSWISH
08-12-2013, 02:17 PM
LeBron's Finals performances, lack of heart, character, and competitive spirit
And Kobe's leadership, game 7s, and Finals performances

Get the MOST excuses

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 02:19 PM
LeBron's Finals performances, lack of heart, character, and competitive spirit
And Kobe's leadership, game 7s, and Finals performances

Get the MOST excuses
You right about Lebron but you surely buggin about kobe:biggums:

Just2McFly
08-12-2013, 02:19 PM
Fudge tries too hard. Probably mad that he's never made an interesting thread in his life

Fudge
08-12-2013, 02:21 PM
Fudge tries too hard. Probably mad that he's never made an interesting thread in his life
Why would I be mad about that? :confusedshrug: It's a message board, I don't give a fvck how great or interesting my threads are.

:oldlol:

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 02:37 PM
Fudge tries too hard. Probably mad that he's never made an interesting thread in his life

Definitely tries way too hard. Dude has been posting here for awhile now and no one would even ask about him if he ever stopped posting :oldlol:

madmax
08-12-2013, 02:38 PM
past: his teammates isnt good enough,

now: his superstar teammates isnt enough

the best one was when pauk created a thread sayin how wade has cost miami 2011 championship by not let lebron doing his thing :lol

I see no lies here:confusedshrug:

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 02:38 PM
Karl Malone and John Stockton, IMO.

This. Them and Barkley always get the Jordan excuse. People forget the Jazz lost a more than once as the favorites in the playoffs and Barkley's teams choked big time in 94 and 95.

Fudge
08-12-2013, 02:40 PM
Definitely tries way too hard. Dude has been posting here for awhile now and no one would even ask about him if he ever stopped posting :oldlol:
Because my rep on ISH means so much to me. :lol

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 02:44 PM
Pat Ewing comes to mind. Also Lebron on those 08-09 & 09-10 Cavs teams.

Im not even a Knicks fan, far from it. But Ewing doesn't deserve nearly the amount of disrespect he does. People always talk about the Knicks 90s defense, but those teams weren't all that. His 2nd best player was undersized SG with streaky shooting. And a bunch of hard playing role players that could play D and rebound but weren't the greatest offensively. He didn't get to play with Houston, Sprewell, etc until he was past his prime, And even past prime Ewing had his moments where he could carry the team.

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 02:46 PM
Lol at these responses. I'm going to say Durant. People blame Westbrook for everything and never get at Durant

Durant started get some blame after the 2012 Finals. Westbrick still takes the brunt of it, but people started calling him out after he contributed nothing on defense, playmaking, or rebounding. The humble attitude also seems to be slipping a way. Not that I care how these athletes portray themselves in the media, real life, etc. But he has moments of being kind of a passive-aggressive dude.

Deuce Bigalow
08-12-2013, 02:57 PM
Wilt Chamberlain and its not even close

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 02:59 PM
Im not even a Knicks fan, far from it. But Ewing doesn't deserve nearly the amount of disrespect he does. People always talk about the Knicks 90s defense, but those teams weren't all that. His 2nd best player was undersized SG with streaky shooting. And a bunch of hard playing role players that could play D and rebound but weren't the greatest offensively. He didn't get to play with Houston, Sprewell, etc until he was past his prime, And even past prime Ewing had his moments where he could carry the team.
Wow something positive said about a knicks former superstar:eek:

Fudge
08-12-2013, 03:05 PM
LeBrahn.

sejoon101
08-12-2013, 03:09 PM
Definitely tries way too hard. Dude has been posting here for awhile now and no one would even ask about him if he ever stopped posting :oldlol:

Lol oh lawd silk wid dat ether again hahahahhaa

Fudge
08-12-2013, 03:12 PM
I constantly destroy Silkk in his own threads. He's afraid of me. :oldlol:

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 03:15 PM
Lol oh lawd silk wid dat ether again hahahahhaa

:pimp:

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 03:15 PM
I constantly destroy Silkk in his own threads. He's afraid of me. :oldlol:
He iz afraid tho:oldlol:

sejoon101
08-12-2013, 03:16 PM
I constantly destroy Silkk in his own threads. He's afraid of me. :oldlol:

I dont know about that, fam. I lurk about two hours a day while going to work and coming back, on free time etc, but i cant think of a single moment when you destroyed silk... Silk on the other hand be mirkin dudes everyday...

Fudge
08-12-2013, 03:17 PM
Naw breh. I own that kids life.

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 03:20 PM
I dont know about that, fam. I lurk about two hours a day while going to work and coming back, on free time etc, but i cant think of a single moment when you destroyed silk... Silk on the other hand be mirkin dudes everyday...
Silkk iz a bitch just like his queen/shero/man/lover Lebron James.:roll:

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 03:33 PM
Some posters on here talk more about me than actual basketball. :eek:

Fudge
08-12-2013, 03:48 PM
It's fun clowning on you doe.

funnystuff
08-12-2013, 04:01 PM
Melo and Wilt come straight to my mind.

Kobe is up there too. His 2004 performance, hands down the worst performance ive seen in the last decade for a superstar of his caliber.

Straight_Ballin
08-12-2013, 04:08 PM
Barkley. He was a monster and the world simply shrugged their shoulders and absolved him of his failure saying "but....but.....but....he had to go up against Jordan!"

Marchesk
08-12-2013, 04:36 PM
Barkley. He was a monster and the world simply shrugged their shoulders and absolved him of his failure saying "but....but.....but....he had to go up against Jordan!"

Yeah, but the same goes for Malone, Stocton, Payton, Ewing and Shaq when the Bulls got past the Pistons. Yeah, Hakeem got two, when MJ went off to play baseball.

DirkNowitzki41
08-12-2013, 04:45 PM
Chris Paul for sure. Why does he get a pass for everything? He also gets really overrated.

NumberSix
08-12-2013, 05:01 PM
Chris Paul for sure. Why does he get a pass for everything? He also gets really overrated.
Because at the end of the day, nobody really cares that much about CP3 and nobody is putting him close to a top 20 list. Guys like LeBron and Kobe who have actual cases to be regarded as all time greats get little things picked apart because they're in the actual discussion. CP3 isn't in any discussion, so people don't even bother with the details.

DMAVS41
08-12-2013, 05:04 PM
Because at the end of the day, nobody really cares that much about CP3 and nobody is putting him close to a top 20 list. Guys like LeBron and Kobe who have actual cases to be regarded as all time greats get little things picked apart because they're in the actual discussion. CP3 isn't in any discussion, so people don't even bother with the details.

Exactly. The legit historical players get the criticism. Dirk, KG, Duncan, Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, Wade, and Durant...those are the guys that will all finish their careers somewhere in the top 20 or so all time.

We just saw this with Parker. You can always tell how good a player really is in the minds of fans when they play awful. If nobody cares much...then said player just isn't actually thought of as a superstar or all time great.

Parker's horrific games 6 and 7 in the finals are a perfect example of this.

NumberSix
08-12-2013, 05:11 PM
Exactly. The legit historical players get the criticism. Dirk, KG, Duncan, Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, Wade, and Durant...those are the guys that will all finish their careers somewhere in the top 20 or so all time.

We just saw this with Parker. You can always tell how good a player really is in the minds of fans when they play awful. If nobody cares much...then said player just isn't actually thought of as a superstar or all time great.

Parker's horrific games 6 and 7 in the finals are a perfect example of this.
It's a little early on Durant. It LOOKS like he's on a path towards being a great player, but who knows? All the others are already all time greats. If Durant retired today or was injured, he's honestly had a forgettable career. He might will continue towards greatness, but there's no guarantees.

DMAVS41
08-12-2013, 05:14 PM
It's a little early on Durant. It LOOKS like he's on a path towards being a great player, but who knows? All the others are already all time greats. If Durant retired today or was injured, he's honestly had a forgettable career. He might will continue towards greatness, but there's no guarantees.

Agreed. That is why I said "will"...I'm of course assuming what you say doesn't happen.

But yes. If Durant retired today he would not fit the bill...but he's going to most likely end up on the top 25 or so level at worst in my opinion.

SamuraiSWISH
08-12-2013, 06:18 PM
I dont know about that, fam. I lurk about two hours a day while going to work and coming back, on free time etc, but i cant think of a single moment when you destroyed silk... Silk on the other hand be mirkin dudes everyday...
4 posts since June of 2011, you browse 2x hours a day at work and you come out the woodwork to say this? haha

:facepalm

Be honest, whose alternate are you?

Dengness9
08-12-2013, 06:54 PM
4 posts since June of 2011, you browse 2x hours a day at work and you come out the woodwork to say this? haha

:facepalm

Be honest, whose alternate are you?


Sejoon is an alt for sure. Really came out and jumped on Silks labia in this backfire thread.


Fudge killed his thread.

Silk is a fa g g o t.

Electric Slide
08-12-2013, 07:03 PM
Has Tim Duncan been listed yet? Cause he is the answer.

DirkNowitzki41
08-12-2013, 07:03 PM
Because at the end of the day, nobody really cares that much about CP3 and nobody is putting him close to a top 20 list. Guys like LeBron and Kobe who have actual cases to be regarded as all time greats get little things picked apart because they're in the actual discussion. CP3 isn't in any discussion, so people don't even bother with the details.


Exactly. The legit historical players get the criticism. Dirk, KG, Duncan, Lebron, Shaq, Kobe, Wade, and Durant...those are the guys that will all finish their careers somewhere in the top 20 or so all time.

We just saw this with Parker. You can always tell how good a player really is in the minds of fans when they play awful. If nobody cares much...then said player just isn't actually thought of as a superstar or all time great.

Parker's horrific games 6 and 7 in the finals are a perfect example of this.

Well said. :applause:

Haks
08-12-2013, 07:16 PM
Melo and Wilt come straight to my mind.

Kobe is up there too. His 2004 performance, hands down the worst performance ive seen in the last decade for a superstar of his caliber.
Lmao
This either means two things. 1. You slept through 2011. 2. You didnt consider Lebron a superstar in 2011

Haks
08-12-2013, 07:19 PM
I say Tim Duncan. The guy stopped playing basketball from like 08-2011 and no1 really takes notice to it. Prisoners of the moment

nathanjizzle
08-12-2013, 07:26 PM
I dont know about that, fam. I lurk about two hours a day while going to work and coming back, on free time etc, but i cant think of a single moment when you destroyed silk... Silk on the other hand be mirkin dudes everyday...

if youre going to use ebonics, which is already piss poor spelled words, then atleast spell the ebonics word right.

The Choken One
08-12-2013, 07:29 PM
CP3, and Lebron
/thread.

None worse in recent times.

The Choken One
08-12-2013, 07:30 PM
Barkley. He was a monster and the world simply shrugged their shoulders and absolved him of his failure saying "but....but.....but....he had to go up against Jordan!"
MJ is the greatest basketball player by far ever. There's a large list of GREAT basketball players that went ringless due to Jordan. One of the greatest centers of alltime ONLY got a ring because Jordan retired.

Legitimate excuse to anyone who has any basketball common sense.

DMAVS41
08-12-2013, 07:32 PM
I say Tim Duncan. The guy stopped playing basketball from like 08-2011 and no1 really takes notice to it. Prisoners of the moment

April 2013..where averaging 20/15/3 in the playoffs while making the conference finals is "not playing basketball"

Legends66NBA7
08-12-2013, 07:38 PM
MJ is the greatest basketball player by far ever. There's a large list of GREAT basketball players that went ringless due to Jordan. One of the greatest centers of alltime ONLY got a ring because Jordan retired.

Legitimate excuse to anyone who has any basketball common sense.

No, it isn't. It's actually one of the most flawed arguments I've read online, not just here on ISH.

Barkley was a part of 25 playoff series. He faced Jordan 3 times. 3 out of 25 times Jordan "stopped" his season short, 1 being in the Finals. So what happened to the other 22 times Barkley didn't face Jordan ? :confusedshrug:

The Choken One
08-12-2013, 07:44 PM
No, it isn't. It's actually one of the most flawed arguments I've read online, not just here on ISH.

Barkley was a part of 25 playoff series. He faced Jordan 3 times. 3 out of 25 times Jordan "stopped" his season short, 1 being in the Finals. So what happened to the other 22 times Barkley didn't face Jordan ? :confusedshrug:
I mean, I get what you're saying.

But be real with yourself, if not for Jordan. there's a very high chance players like Ewing, Malone, Stockton & Barkley would have rings. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting, but you get the point. It only takes 1 playoff run to get a ring. What if Barkley didn't meet Jordan in the finals that 1 time? He might have a ring...never know.

Haks
08-12-2013, 08:52 PM
April 2013..where averaging 20/15/3 in the playoffs while making the conference finals is "not playing basketball"
My bad i meant 09-2010/2012
14/9 in in 2010-2012 lmao

Dengness9
08-12-2013, 10:57 PM
No, it isn't. It's actually one of the most flawed arguments I've read online, not just here on ISH.

Barkley was a part of 25 playoff series. He faced Jordan 3 times. 3 out of 25 times Jordan "stopped" his season short, 1 being in the Finals. So what happened to the other 22 times Barkley didn't face Jordan ? :confusedshrug:



What about 92-93 when Barkley won the MVP and was on a 62 win Suns team that ultimately fell short due to.... wait for it... Michael Jordan and the Bulls.

The one time he got his closet to a ring was halted by the GOAT. the 3 for 25 thing doesn't fly with me when Barkley's best shot and prime involved Mike.

magnax1
08-12-2013, 11:07 PM
I feel like everyone kind of ignores Magic's losses and faults when some are pretty bad. Complete lack of D and losing to inferior teams sometimes, but neither of those are basically ever brought up. I mean, the losing to inferior teams isn't huge, but it seems to happen an awful lot in his career to me.

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 11:10 PM
What about 92-93 when Barkley won the MVP and was on a 62 win Suns team that ultimately fell short due to.... wait for it... Michael Jordan and the Bulls.

The one time he got his closet to a ring was halted by the GOAT. the 3 for 25 thing doesn't fly with me when Barkley's best shot and prime involved Mike.
What about when Barkley's Suns choked in 94 and 95? Dude had his chances.

magnax1
08-12-2013, 11:16 PM
Its a pretty big stretch to say they choked in 94 and 95. First off, Barkley wasnt even in his prime anymore those seasons. They lost both series by a hair anyway, so its hardly a choke.

branslowski
08-12-2013, 11:16 PM
Players with multiple finals MVPs don't need excuses imo..

CP3 and Rose...Both plays with a solid roster around them.

longtime lurker
08-12-2013, 11:19 PM
I feel like everyone kind of ignores Magic's losses and faults when some are pretty bad. Complete lack of D and losing to inferior teams sometimes, but neither of those are basically ever brought up. I mean, the losing to inferior teams isn't huge, but it seems to happen an awful lot in his career to me.

The 10 finals appearances kind of makes up for it.

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 11:19 PM
Its a pretty big stretch to say they choked in 94 and 95. First off, Barkley wasnt even in his prime anymore those seasons. They lost both series by a hair anyway, so its hardly a choke.
They blew a 2-0 lead in 94 and 3-1 lead in 95. Sounds like a choke to me.

Fresh Kid
08-12-2013, 11:28 PM
What about when Barkley's Suns choked in 94 and 95? Dude had his chances.
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magnax1
08-12-2013, 11:28 PM
They blew a 2-0 lead in 94 and 3-1 lead in 95. Sounds like a choke to me.
Thats a stupid way to define choke. If the Bucks blew a 3-1 lead against Miami, its not a choke, they're just a worse team. Being the worse team is not a choke. Playing like shit when you have the upper hand is a choke (Like Lebron in 11) Its even worse that you ignore the fact that he wasnt exactly elite or healthy in 94 or 95 anymore anyway.
If you want to criticize Barkley say he was a big reason they were a shit D.

sejoon101
08-12-2013, 11:32 PM
4 posts since June of 2011, you browse 2x hours a day at work and you come out the woodwork to say this? haha

:facepalm

Be honest, whose alternate are you?

Very honest, not an alt...
I was a member of other online forums, notably bodybuilding.com since 2001, and had less than a 100 posts for the longest time...
I just enjoy reading good ball talk, but from time to time i find it insanely hilarious when people take baits from trolls and proceed to get ether...

Being locked up since november 2011 until this may didnt help, either. You can check my bb.com account too, very active till nov 2011 and no posts since then...

Been lurking a lot more lately trying to catch up on 2 full seasons worth of basketball.
Im glad ish exists.

Fudge
08-12-2013, 11:40 PM
Looool

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 11:49 PM
Very honest, not an alt...
I was a member of other online forums, notably bodybuilding.com since 2001, and had less than a 100 posts for the longest time...
I just enjoy reading good ball talk, but from time to time i find it insanely hilarious when people take baits from trolls and proceed to get ether...

Being locked up since november 2011 until this may didnt help, either. You can check my bb.com account too, very active till nov 2011 and no posts since then...

Been lurking a lot more lately trying to catch up on 2 full seasons worth of basketball.
Im glad ish exists.
Welcome :cheers:

branslowski
08-12-2013, 11:51 PM
Very honest, not an alt...
I was a member of other online forums, notably bodybuilding.com since 2001, and had less than a 100 posts for the longest time...
I just enjoy reading good ball talk, but from time to time i find it insanely hilarious when people take baits from trolls and proceed to get ether...

Being locked up since november 2011 until this may didnt help, either. You can check my bb.com account too, very active till nov 2011 and no posts since then...

Been lurking a lot more lately trying to catch up on 2 full seasons worth of basketball.
Im glad ish exists.

:coleman:

SamuraiSWISH
08-12-2013, 11:55 PM
Welcome :cheers:
Come on now ... we know it's you.

:oldlol:

SilkkTheShocker
08-12-2013, 11:58 PM
Come on now ... we know it's you.

:oldlol:
That account would have been used during games and 6 and 7 finals if it was mine. My Silkk name was banned for the playoffs and I could only read the comments. I would have unleashed a shit storm on the Lebron haters so enormous Jeff would have put ass right back in ISH solitary confinement with ClippersFan

KyleKong
08-13-2013, 12:00 AM
That account would have been used during games and 6 and 7 finals if it was mine. My Silkk name was banned for the playoffs and I could only read the comments. I would have unleashed a shit storm on the Lebron haters so enormous Jeff would have put ass right back in ISH solitary confinement with ClippersFan

Why did ClippersFan get banned anywho? He's like an urban myth for my 2013 eyes.

SilkkTheShocker
08-13-2013, 12:04 AM
Why did ClippersFan get banned anywho? He's like an urban myth for my 2013 eyes.
He lost his mind one night and posted a bunch of graphic pics. Legit went temporarily insane for awhile

ihoopallday
08-13-2013, 12:10 AM
He lost his mind one night and posted a bunch of graphic pics. Legit went temporarily insane for awhile

:roll: :roll: That was the most epic meltdown ever. I just sat here with my popcorn.

branslowski
08-13-2013, 12:16 AM
When you shit the bed and shoot 6-24 in the biggest game of career...while being carried by your teammates.......people are going to criticize him. When it comes to impact of top 10-12 players all time, Kobe has the least on the game. Dude is just a scoring sideshow without the most stacked frontcourt in the league.

Dumbest post ever.

1. LeBron has had worst shooting games than 6-24....He has even shot 6-24 himself vs the Celtics in the playoffs only to follow that up with a 2-18fg game :oldlol:

2. Kobe's Impact on the game makes his resume: Kobe Top 5 in playoff points, Career points, Playoff steals, All NBA First Teams, All Defensive First Teams, Allstar Games, Most Allstar MVPs, 5 titles and 2 Finals MVPs...His resume makes a case for top 5, let alone top 10-12....

3. Scoring sideshows don't avg 25-5-5....His "show" got us back to back titles. 34-7-5 in one Finals, 28-8-4 in the other.

4. Stacked Frontline? Meaning our FRONTLINE was stacked? Myth:

First title run in playoffs: Bynum 6ppg 3reb, Odom 12ppg (one less than Mo Williams)

Second title Run: Bynum 8ppg, Odom 9ppg, Artest 11ppg 4reb 39%fg. Yup, carried.:rolleyes:

It was Kobe, Gasol as sidekick, and average role players. Whos also done nothing after leaving Kobe's team:oldlol:


I know you was trollin with this post and I know you really don't believe it. But I jumped in and took the bait because I felt like posting facts and owning you. I actually lose for responding to This dumb post...So, you da man silk:cheers:

sportjames23
08-13-2013, 03:11 AM
2007
2011
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310163
diaw


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

imdaman99
08-13-2013, 03:44 AM
:roll: :roll: That was the most epic meltdown ever. I just sat here with my popcorn.
:biggums: you sat there and ate popcorn while he posted tranny pics in every thread? :biggums:

sportjames23
08-13-2013, 04:23 AM
Sejoon is an alt for sure. Really came out and jumped on Silks labia in this backfire thread.


Fudge killed his thread.

Silk is a fa g g o t.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

CavaliersFTW
08-13-2013, 11:36 AM
He lost his mind one night and posted a bunch of graphic pics. Legit went temporarily insane for awhile
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually checked himself into a psych ward or rehab facility of sorts after that melt down, dude just fell over the breaking point. He posts on PSD now, and who knows where else because he only has about 10 posts a day on PSD.... We can all be certain there's another 30 a day being distributed elsewhere on the net.

SilkkTheShocker
08-13-2013, 11:42 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually checked himself into a psych ward or rehab facility of sorts after that melt down, dude just fell over the breaking point. He posts on PSD now, and who knows where else because he only has about 10 posts a day on PSD.... We can all be certain there's another 30 a day being distributed elsewhere on the net.

Never cared for him.

Le Shaqtus
08-13-2013, 12:16 PM
Chris Paul has got to be on top of the list.

Everyone has such high expectations of him, then when he gets booted in the 1st/2nd round it's never mentioned, ever. If that were LeBron or Kobe everyone would be on those players asses. Chris Paul is the supposedly the 3rd best player in the league and consistently disappoints and has nothing to show for it.

CavaliersFTW
08-13-2013, 12:32 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned Vagasil Spanoullis yet. Euroleauge alone has come up with more excuses for him than all the other players mentioned combined.

INDI
08-13-2013, 12:41 PM
Injuries sadly. We all saw what Wade could do during the winning streak. Once his leg went out, he slowed down. And Bosh, what his his excuse? :oldlol: Birdman had more of an impact than Bosh for most of the playoffs. A guy that was unemployed to start the season. And Kobe? He loses in the 1st round unless his frontcourt is the best in the league. Hell, he even missed the playoffs in his prime :eek: Like I said, he is no more than scoring sideshow without a stacked froncourt. The guy was Allen Iverson with a rape accusation :oldlol:

So you really believe that a bynum (young and not dominant), ariza (mediocre player til he teamed with kobe) and Gasol (allstar that never won a playoff game). Was better then kg (allstar great defending legend), paul pierce (allstar celtic legend) and kendrick perkins ( average nba center)????

In your eyes bynum,gasol,ariza > perkins,garnett,pierce ???????????????????????

let me remind you this was 08/09

Le Shaqtus
08-13-2013, 12:47 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned Vagasil Spanoullis yet. Euroleauge alone has come up with more excuses for him than all the other players mentioned combined.

There are no expectations for a fake Euro star who comes into a superior league and performs like a scrub, thats just a reality check.

SilkkTheShocker
08-13-2013, 12:49 PM
Parker and Duncan don't really get excuses. They should seem free of any kind of blame.

Marlo Stanfield
02-20-2014, 01:57 AM
Kobe and lebron because they get talked about the most. So they inevitably will have the highest amount of delusional fans who excuse their poor performancea

JohnFreeman
02-20-2014, 01:58 AM
CP3

Fudge
02-20-2014, 02:00 AM
Silkk wanted NOTHING to do with me in this thread. Dude was scared as fck. :oldlol:

Fudge
02-20-2014, 02:01 AM
LeBron on Cleveland.
And this.

SilkkTheShocker
02-20-2014, 02:01 AM
Silkk wanted NOTHING to do with me in this thread. Dude was scared as fck. :oldlol:

I told you what needed to be told in the last thread. You can bait as much as you want, but you're going to have to be creative on your own. I am not going to carry you on here.

Mr. Jabbar
02-20-2014, 02:03 AM
bran, dwight easily at the top

Fudge
02-20-2014, 02:04 AM
I told you what needed to be told in the last thread. You can bait as much as you want, but you're going to have to be creative on your own. I am not going to carry you on here.
Scurred written all over this.

Couldn't even look into my eyes while typing that, I bet.

moe94
02-20-2014, 02:06 AM
Couldn't even look into my eyes while typing that, I bet.

Can't lie, I audibly laughed.

JohnFreeman
02-20-2014, 02:06 AM
LeBron does not get excuses. The amount of shit he took after losing the finals

Audio One
02-20-2014, 02:07 AM
Hakeem Olajuwon/John Stockton

oh the horror
02-20-2014, 02:08 AM
Chris Paul has got to be on top of the list.

Everyone has such high expectations of him, then when he gets booted in the 1st/2nd round it's never mentioned, ever. If that were LeBron or Kobe everyone would be on those players asses. Chris Paul is the supposedly the 3rd best player in the league and consistently disappoints and has nothing to show for it.


This. Even in this thread is kind of ignored.

Marlo_Stanfield
02-20-2014, 02:08 AM
I told you what needed to be told in the last thread. You can bait as much as you want, but you're going to have to be creative on your own. I am not going to carry you on here.
http://oi59.tinypic.com/2luc1ll.jpg[/QUOTE]

nzahir
02-20-2014, 02:10 AM
Lol the credibility of the members on this forum is pretty much none. Lebron is quiet arguably the most scrutinized player of all time.

Id go with duncan(he missed a layup in the finals of game 7, and no blame? Are you kidding me?), kobe(6/24 in game 7 and terrible fg percentage(especially in the clutch) and no blame, just the reward. And a little for cp3

aboss4real24
02-20-2014, 02:59 AM
Kobe, Cp3,

knicksman
02-20-2014, 03:39 AM
well wilt really is just same as LeBron. Just like Oscar. So I guess OP is now ready to jump ship. Sorry Durant bandwagon is close

SamuraiSWISH
02-20-2014, 06:51 AM
Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, Kobe, and LeBron. The big five of most excuses.

Marlo_Stanfield
02-20-2014, 08:01 AM
Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, Kobe, and LeBron. The big five of most excuses.
:biggums: :biggums:

JohnFreeman
02-20-2014, 08:21 AM
Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, Kobe, and LeBron. The big five of most excuses.
http://www.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/steve-urkel-gif-15.gif

Marlo_Stanfield
02-20-2014, 08:44 AM
http://www.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/steve-urkel-gif-15.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll:

houston
02-20-2014, 11:38 PM
t-mac and Hakeem