I seriously still can't get over that Ray Allen 3 pointer

[The_Yearning]

Anybody else feel the same? LeBron is so fvcking lucky. So fvcking lucky that Greg Poppovich wanted to stroke his ego by pulling Tim Duncan out of the game.... so lucky that Ray Allen bailed his ass out on some lucky ass hot and not to mention they didn't call the foul on that Manu play at the end...

I mean seriously the Spurs were 1 rebound away from winning the championship... matter of fact if they had just made their free throws the game would have been too far out of reach.

LeBron should have given Ray Allen the biggest bj that night.

[Fresh Kid]

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[tomtucker]

what do you mean "should have" ?

[thabisyo]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/tired%20of%20bein%20butthurt_eddda3_3692310.jpg

[All Net]

You can't use that logic as without Lebron three secs before that three wouldn't of mattered either.

[#number6ix#]

Kill ya self

[KyleKong]

Steve Kerr must have gotten a serious hummer from Jordan.

[RidonKs]

me neither :(

pisses me off to no end


You can't use that logic as without Lebron three secs before that three wouldn't of mattered either.
well the logic that lebron was lucky the other coach, one of the greatest in league history as it happens, cost his team the series by making the same crucial mistake on consecutive possessions stands up to scrutiny quite well

obv that's just an ihatelebron angle so it's not worth much but it lets me sleep at night so i'm gonna stick with it

[Zoobieshoes]

that shot will feel mind-boggling for a long time

[I<3NBA]

just like Kobe should've given Shaq lifetime bjs right? or Fisher, MWP, Gasol.

i too, can't get over how Kobe's had so much help propping up his career. i really wish basketball isn't a team sport so i can watch Kobe not win anything. it really should be an individual sport, right? no one has the right to win with his teammates' help! such injustice! it's wrong!

[madmax]

dude, he just hit a three pointer - the kind of thing he was paid to do.
why u mad though?:confusedshrug:

[Lebron23]

dude, he just hit a three pointer - the kind of thing he was paid to do.
why u mad though?:confusedshrug:

This

That's Why Miami signed him in the off season. luck is part of the game just like Horry and Fisher's game winning shots.

[poido123]

You can't use that logic as without Lebron three secs before that three wouldn't of mattered either.

This.

People forget it takes a team to win a championship, without Lebron they wouldn't of been in that position to compete.

I have softened my stance on that, now that the butthurt has worn off :lol

[thabisyo]

This.

People forget it takes a team to win a championship, without Lebron they wouldn't of been in that position to compete.

I have softened my stance on that, now that the butthurt has worn off :lol

:applause:

[kNicKz]

After watching Ray Allen play at UConn and following his entire NBA career I honestly felt like the shot was going in when the ball was just leaving his hands. Shots like this are what Ray does. Look up his game winner over Georgetown vs. AI

[xoracle55]

This.

People forget it takes a team to win a championship, without Lebron they wouldn't of been in that position to compete.

I have softened my stance on that, now that the butthurt has worn off :lol

Holy smoke! :wtf: Poido's account was hacked too? He's actually giving Lebron some props :roll:. This a first.

Ra-Ray 3-pointer, it's impressive but people should tell the whole story of game 6.

[SilkkTheShocker]

He never has the chance to even tie the game if Lebron doesn't lead the team out of that hole

[kNicKz]

He never has the chance to even tie the game if Lebron doesn't lead the team out of that hole

Take Lebron's wang out of your mouth for a split second and let Ray have his shine. He hit a big shot that saved the Heats championship which is why they signed him

[cos88]

Anybody else feel the same? LeBron is so fvcking lucky. So fvcking lucky that Greg Poppovich wanted to stroke his ego by pulling Tim Duncan out of the game.... so lucky that Ray Allen bailed his ass out on some lucky ass hot and not to mention they didn't call the foul on that Manu play at the end...

I mean seriously the Spurs were 1 rebound away from winning the championship... matter of fact if they had just made their free throws the game would have been too far out of reach.

LeBron should have given Ray Allen the biggest bj that night.


stop reading after that. what an idiot you are :facepalm

[WayOfWade]

If I remember correctly, I think that teams down 5 with at most 30 secs left, lose 98.6% of the time. So the Spurs would literally win 99 times out of a hundred.

[WindmiLL]

no one has the right to win with his teammates' help! such injustice! it's wrong!

This

All other historically great players were allowed to have stacked teams throughout their careers, Lebron on the other hand is not. All other historically great players were allowed to have teammates who were capable of hitting big shots, again Lebron is not.

Don't you see what kind of standards Lebron is even held to? Not even Michael freakin Jordan was held to such a high standards. And by criticizing Lebron for it you are only admitting how great he truly is.

[poido123]

Anybody else feel the same? LeBron is so fvcking lucky. So fvcking lucky that Greg Poppovich wanted to stroke his ego by pulling Tim Duncan out of the game.... so lucky that Ray Allen bailed his ass out on some lucky ass hot and not to mention they didn't call the foul on that Manu play at the end...

I mean seriously the Spurs were 1 rebound away from winning the championship... matter of fact if they had just made their free throws the game would have been too far out of reach.

LeBron should have given Ray Allen the biggest bj that night.


He got a pretty good look at it.

Wasn't like Allen was throwing up a prayer off balance with three guys all over him...He had a clear shot with guys trying to close out on him, but he got a good look is what i'm saying.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Take Lebron's wang out of your mouth for a split second and let Ray have his shine. He hit a big shot that saved the Heats championship which is why they signed him

Calm down, UCONN homer. :oldlol:

[sundizz]

He got a pretty good look at it.

Wasn't like Allen was throwing up a prayer off balance with three guys all over him...He had a clear shot with guys trying to close out on him, but he got a good look is what i'm saying.

Even without considering the magnitude...that was a 10/10 difficulty shot, it'd go in maybe 5% of the time if every NBA player had a chance at that possession. Most of them wouldn't of even got the shot up properly. Need glove hands, pure confidence, court awareness, AND finally ability to hit the three under pressure.

He's just so damn clutch. It was just fate it got to him. Anyone else in the NBA or on the Heat wouldn't of been able to tiptoe that line and made that shot. Maybe 1 or 2 other players...would of been able to get it off that quick and with that chance..actually just one...Curry

[MisterAmazing]

Take Lebron's wang out of your mouth for a split second and let Ray have his shine. He hit a big shot that saved the Heats championship which is why they signed him

+1

[Bigsmoke]

oh well.

another ring for the king

[Frozen1]

Besides Ray Allen, the only guy who could have hit that shot is Kobe Bryant.

Lebron is lucky that rebound didn't come to his hands, he would have one less ring and a third choke job to his nba finals resum

[SilkkTheShocker]

It was an amazing shot. Best ever, really. But Im going to have to give the credit to LeBron for putting the team on his back to get him there. He led a starting lineup of Birdman, Chalmers, Miller, and Battier out of a double digit deficit. :bowdown: Headband Game

[The_Yearning]

This

That's Why Miami signed him in the off season. luck is part of the game just like Horry and Fisher's game winning shots.

Difference is, if it wasn't Horry or Fisher, Kobe could have took and made those shots.

LeBron? Not a chance.

[Mr Exlax]

Holy hell a player that actually got a contribution from a teammate in a team game? WTF? He sucks!

[red1]

legendary nba moment

[funnystuff]

I see it as, without Lebrons help Ray Ray would of never got that chance to cement himself as the player Ray Ray is.


Truth is, Lebron did most of it by himself these last 2 years.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Great team effort by the Heat to overcome a double digit deficit :applause:

[kNicKz]

Calm down, UCONN homer. :oldlol:

http://www.welikesportsshow.com/wp-content/gallery/various/ray-allen.jpg

:bowdown:

[Le Shaqtus]

It's got to be THE shot right? I don't think I've ever seen a more clutch moment.

[pauk]

You can't use that logic as without Lebron three secs before that three wouldn't of mattered either.

Doesnt suit the agenda....

[Euroleague]

The sad thing is that all the media did was talk about LeBron. Even though Ray Allen hit the most clutch shot of all time and saved his ass.

[Euroleague]

[QUOTE=Frozen1]Besides Ray Allen, the only guy who could have hit that shot is Kobe Bryant.

Lebron is lucky that rebound didn't come to his hands, he would have one less ring and a third choke job to his nba finals resum

[Trollsmasher]

The sad thing is that all the media did was talk about LeBron. Even though Ray Allen hit the most clutch shot of all time and saved his ass.
Strange, I would thought that someone in Euroleague would'v hit a more clutch shot than this...

[red1]

False. Navarro could do it.
spanoulis more athletic than rose and westbrook?

[MisterAmazing]

False. Navarro could do it.

of course :roll:

[pauk]

The sad thing is that all the media did was talk about LeBron. Even though Ray Allen hit the most clutch shot of all time and saved his ass.


They did talk about Ray Allen's shot, are you kidding me? What do you want? For them to ignore Lebron completely? Lebron did much more than hit one single basket that entire year every single game (even during that specific games crucial time) hence there is much more to talk about.... without Lebron Ray Allen wouldnt be in that situation, without Ray Allen Lebron would still be in that situation and maybe even better considering Ray Allen infact was playing & shooting way under his standards that year (it was kindof obligatory for him to at least hit THAT crucial shot, it was a "finally" moment) while they had other spotup shooters of recent 3pt champion Jones or even Miller who could have also not only made that wideopen shot right there but perhaps done better during that series putting them in a better position....

Its like trying to diminish Jordan in situations where Steve Kerr (or many other guys) who "bailed him out"....

Now go start another thread about how Euroleague is better than NBA instead.

[Bandito]

I hate on Lebron for many things, but you can't hate Ray Allen for doing what he's done in all of his career. It's not his fault he is clutch as fvck.

[longtime lurker]

If I remember correctly, I think that teams down 5 with at most 30 secs left, lose 98.6% of the time. So the Spurs would literally win 99 times out of a hundred.

This. More like the Spurs choked. All they had to do was hit 1 free throw. 1!

[SilkkTheShocker]

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/51c3d7256bb3f7f875000006-1200-900/lebron-james-god.jpg

[305Baller]

it was a great rebound by Bosh and an unreal shot by Allen.

Ice in his veinssss

[Euroleague]

Strange, I would thought that someone in Euroleague would'v hit a more clutch shot than this...

Georgios Printezis did actually. But Allen's shot was a lot more difficult.

[NumberSix]

Paul George's game tying 3 was honestly far more ridiculous. Rays was just a bigger moment. Biggest shot in Miami heat history.

[The_Yearning]

Paul George's game tying 3 was honestly far more ridiculous. Rays was just a bigger moment. Biggest shot in Miami heat history.

Indiana still ended up losing that game. And it was just game 1.

Ray Allen misses that and everything is OVER. If Kerr missed, they just play the next game. If Fisher missed, they just play the next game. etc.

[NumberSix]

Indiana still ended up losing that game. And it was just game 1.

Ray Allen misses that and everything is OVER. If Kerr missed, they just play the next game. If Fisher missed, they just play the next game. etc.
Are you attempting to make a point or just stringing random obvious thoughts together?

[LongLiveTheKing]

Considering all the unlucky moments in Lebron's career he deserves some lucky moments.

[Magic 32]

Its like trying to diminish Jordan in situations where Steve Kerr (or many other guys) who "bailed him out"....

Now go start another thread about how Euroleague is better than NBA instead.

Did Jordan do this before Paxson and Kerr "bailed him out"...

84-87 LeBron James misses 17-foot jumper
4:00 Boris Diaw defensive rebound 84-87
3:47 84-87 Mario Chalmers personal block (Manu Ginobili draws the foul)
3:47 84-87 Dwyane Wade enters the game for Mike Miller
3:47 Danny Green enters the game for Boris Diaw 84-87
3:32 Dwyane Wade blocks Tony Parker 's 16-foot jumper 84-87
3:31 84-87 LeBron James defensive rebound
3:17 84-87 LeBron James offensive Charge (Tony Parker draws the foul)
3:17 84-87 LeBron James turnover
3:01 Tim Duncan misses 5-foot hook shot 84-87
3:00 84-87 Dwyane Wade defensive rebound
2:57 Heat Full timeout
2:40 84-87 Dwyane Wade misses 14-foot two point shot
2:39 Manu Ginobili defensive rebound 84-87
2:31 Manu Ginobili makes driving layup 86-87
2:09 Danny Green shooting foul (Dwyane Wade draws the foul) 86-87
2:09 86-88 Dwyane Wade makes free throw 1 of 2
2:09 86-89 Dwyane Wade makes free throw 2 of 2
1:53 Manu Ginobili misses 25-foot three point jumper 86-89
1:51 Danny Green offensive rebound 86-89
1:47 Spurs 20 Sec. timeout
1:27 Tony Parker makes 26-foot three point jumper 89-89
1:07 89-89 Mario Chalmers bad pass (Tony Parker steals)
0:58 Tony Parker makes 12-foot two point shot 91-89
0:58 Heat Full timeout
0:39 91-89 LeBron James lost ball turnover (Kawhi Leonard steals)
0:37 93-89 Ray Allen shooting foul (Manu Ginobili draws the foul)
0:37 Manu Ginobili makes free throw 1 of 2 92-89
0:37 Manu Ginobili makes free throw 2 of 2 93-89
0:28 93-89 LeBron James bad pass (Manu Ginobili steals)
0:28 94-89 Ray Allen personal foul (Manu Ginobili draws the foul)
0:28 Manu Ginobili misses free throw 1 of 2 93-89
0:28 Spurs offensive team rebound 93-89
0:28 Manu Ginobili makes free throw 2 of 2 94-89
0:28 Heat 20 Sec. timeout
0:28 94-89 Mike Miller enters the game for Chris Bosh
0:28 Boris Diaw enters the game for Tim Duncan 94-89
0:23 94-89 LeBron James misses 26-foot three point jumper
0:22 94-89 Mike Miller offensive rebound
0:20 94-92 LeBron James makes 25-foot three point jumper (Mike Miller assists)
0:20 Spurs Full timeout
0:20 Tim Duncan enters the game for Boris Diaw 94-92
0:19 94-92 Mike Miller personal foul (Kawhi Leonard draws the foul)
0:19 Kawhi Leonard misses free throw 1 of 2 94-92
0:19 Spurs offensive team rebound 94-92
0:19 94-92 Chris Bosh enters the game for Mike Miller
0:19 Boris Diaw enters the game for Tim Duncan 94-92
0:19 Kawhi Leonard makes free throw 2 of 2 95-92
0:07 95-92 LeBron James misses 26-foot three point jumper
0:06 95-92 Chris Bosh offensive rebound
0:05 95-95 Ray Allen makes 25-foot three point jumper (Chris Bosh assists)

1-4 FG with 3 TO's.

[pegasus]

Considering all the unlucky moments in Lebron's career he deserves some lucky moments.

Being too scared to shoot, or shooting an airball, or getting blocked on a layup attempt, or turning the ball over, etc. in the last play of the game does not translate to an "unlucky moment".

Which series did he lose because of an unlucky moment? And let's not forget about all the injuries that the several star and all-star players suffered from in the last two years. If that's not luck for Lebron then I don't know what is...wait, I do, that Ray Allen 3!

[LongLiveTheKing]

Being too scared to shoot, or shooting an airball, or getting blocked on a layup attempt, or turning the ball over, etc. in the last play of the game does not translate to an "unlucky moment".

Which series did he lose because of an unlucky moment? And let's not forget about all the injuries that the several star and all-star players suffered from in the last two years. If that's not luck for Lebron then I don't know what is...wait, I do, that Ray Allen 3!
I remember against the Magic in game 4 I think Delonte West had the rebound to seal the game but let it go out of bounds then the Magic tied the game the next game. Other moments in playoff games as well.
Lol at the bolded Lebron rarely does that.
His whole tenure with Cleveland was unlucky because of the teammates he was with and the same goes for Wade with the crap team he had in his prime.

[DMAVS41]

Being too scared to shoot, or shooting an airball, or getting blocked on a layup attempt, or turning the ball over, etc. in the last play of the game does not translate to an "unlucky moment".

Which series did he lose because of an unlucky moment? And let's not forget about all the injuries that the several star and all-star players suffered from in the last two years. If that's not luck for Lebron then I don't know what is...wait, I do, that Ray Allen 3!

This is unfair. Hell, in the 09 playoffs alone against the Magic Lebron was absurdly unlucky. Not only did his teammates wet the bed, but Rashed Lewis caught fire and Howard played the best series of his career. Lewis also happened to be cheating with PED's at the time as well. And Hedo was likely cheating at the time as well.

That was straight up unlucky.

[Jameerthefear]

This is unfair. Hell, in the 09 playoffs alone against the Magic Lebron was absurdly unlucky. Not only did his teammates wet the bed, but Rashed Lewis caught fire and Howard played the best series of his career. Lewis also happened to be cheating with PED's at the time as well. And Hedo was likely cheating at the time as well.

That was straight up unlucky.
and Lebron isn't on PEDs? I'm sure those steroids really helped their jumpshots though!!!
/s

[devin112]

Anybody else feel the same? LeBron is so fvcking lucky. So fvcking lucky that Greg Poppovich wanted to stroke his ego by pulling Tim Duncan out of the game.... so lucky that Ray Allen bailed his ass out on some lucky ass hot and not to mention they didn't call the foul on that Manu play at the end...

I mean seriously the Spurs were 1 rebound away from winning the championship... matter of fact if they had just made their free throws the game would have been too far out of reach.

LeBron should have given Ray Allen the biggest bj that night.

Seems like ray shot that 3 point bomb right up your butthole the way your crying about it.

[HomieWeMajor]

Do you guys think that Miami will retire Ray's number if he retires after this season ?
I honestly do.

[#number6ix#]

Do you guys think that Miami will retire Ray's number if he retires after this season ?
I honestly do.
Why not we retired MJ jersey and all he did was bust our ass in the playoffs

[Bandito]

This is unfair. Hell, in the 09 playoffs alone against the Magic Lebron was absurdly unlucky. Not only did his teammates wet the bed, but Rashed Lewis caught fire and Howard played the best series of his career. Lewis also happened to be cheating with PED's at the time as well. And Hedo was likely cheating at the time as well.

That was straight up unlucky.
Because Steroids makes your jumpshots better.:facepalm

[red1]

Being too scared to shoot, or shooting an airball, or getting blocked on a layup attempt, or turning the ball over, etc. in the last play of the game does not translate to an "unlucky moment".

Which series did he lose because of an unlucky moment? And let's not forget about all the injuries that the several star and all-star players suffered from in the last two years. If that's not luck for Lebron then I don't know what is...wait, I do, that Ray Allen 3!
You are permanently damaged. 2012 and 2013 finals still giving you nightmares?

[jzek]

LeBron is so fvcking lucky.

Seriously? You wanna talk about being lucky? Kobe was GIFTED 3 rings by Shaq! Now that's being lucky... 3x!

[Magic 32]

Seriously? You wanna talk about being lucky? Kobe was GIFTED 3 rings by Shaq! Now that's being lucky... 3x!

93 points in back-to-back road PO games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR3kpKk0mfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0HtbJFEzJM

[red1]

93 points in back-to-back road PO games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR3kpKk0mfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0HtbJFEzJM
not bad :applause:

[Replay32]

Anybody else feel the same? LeBron is so fvcking lucky. So fvcking lucky that Greg Poppovich wanted to stroke his ego by pulling Tim Duncan out of the game.... so lucky that Ray Allen bailed his ass out on some lucky ass hot and not to mention they didn't call the foul on that Manu play at the end...

I mean seriously the Spurs were 1 rebound away from winning the championship... matter of fact if they had just made their free throws the game would have been too far out of reach.

LeBron should have given Ray Allen the biggest bj that night.

And the Sacramento Kings were 1 rebound away from going to the finals instead of the lakers in 2002.

The lakers were 1 rebound away from upsetting the Suns in 2006. You act like the ball has never bounced a certain teams way before. What exactly is your point?

Did kobe/Shaq give Horry a BJ?

Did steve nash/shawn marion give Tim Thomas a BJ? :confusedshrug:

[longtime lurker]

Did Jordan do this before Paxson and Kerr "bailed him out"...

84-87 LeBron James misses 17-foot jumper
4:00 Boris Diaw defensive rebound 84-87
3:47 84-87 Mario Chalmers personal block (Manu Ginobili draws the foul)
3:47 84-87 Dwyane Wade enters the game for Mike Miller
3:47 Danny Green enters the game for Boris Diaw 84-87
3:32 Dwyane Wade blocks Tony Parker 's 16-foot jumper 84-87
3:31 84-87 LeBron James defensive rebound
3:17 84-87 LeBron James offensive Charge (Tony Parker draws the foul)
3:17 84-87 LeBron James turnover
3:01 Tim Duncan misses 5-foot hook shot 84-87
3:00 84-87 Dwyane Wade defensive rebound
2:57 Heat Full timeout
2:40 84-87 Dwyane Wade misses 14-foot two point shot
2:39 Manu Ginobili defensive rebound 84-87
2:31 Manu Ginobili makes driving layup 86-87
2:09 Danny Green shooting foul (Dwyane Wade draws the foul) 86-87
2:09 86-88 Dwyane Wade makes free throw 1 of 2
2:09 86-89 Dwyane Wade makes free throw 2 of 2
1:53 Manu Ginobili misses 25-foot three point jumper 86-89
1:51 Danny Green offensive rebound 86-89
1:47 Spurs 20 Sec. timeout
1:27 Tony Parker makes 26-foot three point jumper 89-89
1:07 89-89 Mario Chalmers bad pass (Tony Parker steals)
0:58 Tony Parker makes 12-foot two point shot 91-89
0:58 Heat Full timeout
0:39 91-89 LeBron James lost ball turnover (Kawhi Leonard steals)
0:37 93-89 Ray Allen shooting foul (Manu Ginobili draws the foul)
0:37 Manu Ginobili makes free throw 1 of 2 92-89
0:37 Manu Ginobili makes free throw 2 of 2 93-89
0:28 93-89 LeBron James bad pass (Manu Ginobili steals)
0:28 94-89 Ray Allen personal foul (Manu Ginobili draws the foul)
0:28 Manu Ginobili misses free throw 1 of 2 93-89
0:28 Spurs offensive team rebound 93-89
0:28 Manu Ginobili makes free throw 2 of 2 94-89
0:28 Heat 20 Sec. timeout
0:28 94-89 Mike Miller enters the game for Chris Bosh
0:28 Boris Diaw enters the game for Tim Duncan 94-89
0:23 94-89 LeBron James misses 26-foot three point jumper
0:22 94-89 Mike Miller offensive rebound
0:20 94-92 LeBron James makes 25-foot three point jumper (Mike Miller assists)
0:20 Spurs Full timeout
0:20 Tim Duncan enters the game for Boris Diaw 94-92
0:19 94-92 Mike Miller personal foul (Kawhi Leonard draws the foul)
0:19 Kawhi Leonard misses free throw 1 of 2 94-92
0:19 Spurs offensive team rebound 94-92
0:19 94-92 Chris Bosh enters the game for Mike Miller
0:19 Boris Diaw enters the game for Tim Duncan 94-92
0:19 Kawhi Leonard makes free throw 2 of 2 95-92
0:07 95-92 LeBron James misses 26-foot three point jumper
0:06 95-92 Chris Bosh offensive rebound
0:05 95-95 Ray Allen makes 25-foot three point jumper (Chris Bosh assists)

1-4 FG with 3 TO's.

Wow talk about anti-clutch :lol seriously though the Spurs choked this away. They couldn't just hit 1 free throw. Pretty pathetic.

[G-train]

There is no mystical force of luck.

There is strong reasons as to why that 3PT opportunity arose, and why it was executed.

[G-train]

Seems like ray shot that 3 point bomb right up your butthole the way your crying about it.

An excellent post, worthy of postive rep.

[ConanRulesNBC]

It's not just the Ray Allen shot. It's that if the Spurs had Duncan out there there's a great chance that he could have grabbed a rebound and Ray Allen wouldn't have hat the chance to shoot that 3.

Poppovich pulling Duncan out of the game is the biggest mystery to me. How can a future hall of fame coach who has won 4 championships have been so stupid?

[kNicKz]

Poppovich pulling Duncan out of the game is the biggest mystery to me. How can a future hall of fame coach who has won 4 championships have been so stupid?

Game 1 ECF Roy Hibbert

mysteries that will never be solved

[NumberSix]

Ray Allen.