LBJ vs MJ in games that MATTER the most.

[funnystuff]

PPG RPG APG FG% MPG
LeBron James 31.5 10 6.4 46.4 44.5
Michael Jordan 31.3 7.9 7 44.5 41.6

Discuss.


AKA Elimination games.

EDIT: LInk for all the non believes like Donkey4 http://nba.si.com/2013/06/18/lebron-james-2013-nba-finals-game-6-miami-heat-san-antonio-spurs/

[NumberSix]

PPG RPG APG FG% MPG
LeBron James 31.5 10 6.4 46.4 44.5
Michael Jordan 31.3 7.9 7 44.5 41.6

Discuss.


AKA Elimination games.
LeBron is also better in game 7's

[kNicKz]

LeBron is also better in game 7's

The Finals has game 7's?

http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Michael-Jordan-Rings.jpg

[NumberSix]

The Finals has game 7's?
Not if you get bounced in round 1.

[IGOTGAME]

Lebron has been in a lot of elimination games that he shouldn't have been in...he disappears for games at a time and it ends up in situations he shouldn't be in.

[kNicKz]

Not if you get bounced in round 1.

http://www.wallgc.com/images/2012/12/michael-jordan-6-rings-nba-2k12-streetball.jpg

I haven't seen a finals game 7

[Donkey4trading]

The Finals has game 7's?

http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Michael-Jordan-Rings.jpg


Jordan's heard of games 4,5 and sometimes 6... But 7 :biggums:

[peejay89]

LeBron is also better in game 7's

Jordan didn't need game 7.
6/6 baby.

[nnn123]

LeBron James is clearly one of the the least clutch player we've ever witnessed.

Stop trying to build him up to something he's not. He's a current player, not some player from 30 years ago. You can't fool us

[kNicKz]

Jordan's heard of games 4,5 and sometimes 6... But 7 :biggums:

Actually being in a position where a team could eliminate the GOAT in the finals is a laughable concept to people above the age of 14 :roll:

[funnystuff]

The Finals has game 7's?

http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Michael-Jordan-Rings.jpg
http://tkcsports.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/meloringless.jpg

[kNicKz]

http://doubledribble.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/michael-jordan-6-fingers.jpg

[funnystuff]

Who the fcuk is talking about game 7s?

These stats include games where if they win, they advance.

[Donkey4trading]

Who the fcuk is talking about game 7s?

These stats include games where if they win, they advance.

Damn that makes Mjs even more impressive considering he's played in and won a lot more of those :applause:

Btw nice link in the OP verifying these stats

And shouldn't the "games that matter most" label be reserved for finals games?

I'd love to see a Lebron vs MJ finals stats comparison

[funnystuff]

Damn that makes Mjs even more impressive considering he's played in and won a lot more of those :applause:

Btw nice link in the OP verifying these stats
Check again. Don't feel too stupid.

[Donkey4trading]

Check again. Don't feel too stupid.


You went and edited your post congratulations? Didn't question it just should always have a link to verify it.

Besides, you better calm down before somebody post Lebron vs MJ finals stats (the games that actually matter most) and you abandon ship faster than HEAT fans in game 6

[funnystuff]

You went and edited your post congratulations? Didn't question it just should always have a link to verify it.

Besides, you better calm down before somebody post Lebron vs MJ finals stats (the games that actually matter most) and you abandon ship faster than HEAT fans in game 6
Except you made a fool of yourself doubting the credibility of those stats like they were made up. Its okay friend. :lol

[sportjames23]

The Finals has game 7's?

http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Michael-Jordan-Rings.jpg


/thread.

[Young X]

Jordan outplayed Magic Johnson in the games that mattered most.

Lebron got outplayed by Jason Terry in the games that mattered most.



Do. the. math.

[funnystuff]

Damn, you guys must need to discredit Lebron to be able to fall asleep.

Then again, its understandable for the best basketball player in the world to have the most hate too.

[#number6ix#]

I'm getting sick of seeing the same stats over and over again... I like lebron and I'm a miami fan but I'm sick of hearing about this motherfvcker, mj and kobe too,damn y'all act like they the only 3 to play basketball... FVCK!!!!

[RRR3]

I'm getting sick of see the same stats over and over again... I like lebron and I'm a miami fan but I'm sick of hearing about this motherfvcker, mj and kobe too,damn y'all act like they the only 3 to play basketball... FVCK!!!!
:applause:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Every playoff game matters.

[funnystuff]

I'm getting sick of seeing the same stats over and over again... I like lebron and I'm a miami fan but I'm sick of hearing about this motherfvcker, mj and kobe too,damn y'all act like they the only 3 to play basketball... FVCK!!!!
When youre the best basketball player in the world, youre gonna hear about it. :facepalm

[PickernRoller]

When youre the best basketball in the world, youre gonna hear about it. :facepalm

So you're the best basketball in the word. How many psi's do I need to pump into you to inflate you till you Pop? Make this forum a favor and avoid shitting their hands while dribbling.

[funnystuff]

So you're the best basketball in the word. How many psi's do I need to pump into you to inflate you till you Pop? Make this forum a favor and avoid shitting their hands while dribbling.
You caught my typo, grats. :applause:

[PickernRoller]

You caught my typo, grats. :applause:

So you're the best basketball player in the world? Your name happens to be?

[funnystuff]

So you're the best basketball player in the world? Your name happens to be?
I mean, playing dumb is what cool kids do now a days right?

[PickernRoller]

I mean, playing dumb is what cool kids do now a days right?

no, just f'cking with u....

[OJ SIMPSON 2.0]

Meh, MJ played in the toughest era in NBA history. Lebron's Assists numbers are greatly inflated due to how they're given out now days and Lebron has no Midget centers, of course he's going to get more rebounds. MJ had to fight for his stats while Lebron is given free reign to take as many open jump shots as he wants in single coverage. Lebron averages 1.6 Offensive rebounds a game in the playoffs so I'd imagine out of those 10 rebounds he averages in elimination games, not many are offensive rebounds. Stat padding defensive rebounds that don't matter makes you better than MJ? Shooting wide open uncontested Jumpers makes you better than MJ? LEL, Lebron is a Joke.

[poido123]

Damn, you guys must need to discredit Lebron to be able to fall asleep.

Then again, its understandable for the best basketball player in the world to have the most hate too.


You started this annoying thread.

Don't act like people are hating when YOU started off the trolling :roll:

This guy...:facepalm:

[Magic 32]

Eastern conference 1998-2013

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V8mY_wg_mUU/TyhjDsWjoBI/AAAAAAAAA3Y/QGYc6Zw0CHk/s200/rip.gif

[Simple Jack]

Meh, MJ played in the toughest era in NBA history. Lebron's Assists numbers are greatly inflated due to how they're given out now days and Lebron has no Midget centers, of course he's going to get more rebounds. MJ had to fight for his stats while Lebron is given free reign to take as many open jump shots as he wants in single coverage. Lebron averages 1.6 Offensive rebounds a game in the playoffs so I'd imagine out of those 10 rebounds he averages in elimination games, not many are offensive rebounds. Stat padding defensive rebounds that don't matter makes you better than MJ? Shooting wide open uncontested Jumpers makes you better than MJ? LEL, Lebron is a Joke.

You make it sound like he gets those jumpers because he's a scrub. He gets them (when he does, and certainly not all the time; ask Jimmy Butler and Paul George if they were just giving up uncontested jumpers to LeBron) because he's extremely dangerous when being D'd up closely.

[funnystuff]

You started this annoying thread.

Don't act like people are hating when YOU started off the trolling :roll:

This guy...:facepalm:
Annoying thread? I just think its amazing how great Lebron is in elimination situations.

[Magic 32]

Annoying thread? I just think its amazing how great Lebron is in elimination situations.


It would be less annoying if we could compare the teams they played against.

No such luck.

http://hoopsapedia.webs.com/1992_1993__knicks.jpg

vs.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/wizthree420.jpg

[sportjames23]

It would be less annoying if we could compare the teams they played against.

No such luck.

http://hoopsapedia.webs.com/1992_1993__knicks.jpg

vs.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/wizthree420.jpg


Dat. Ether.

[r15mohd]

Meh, MJ played in the toughest era in NBA history. Lebron's Assists numbers are greatly inflated due to how they're given out now days and Lebron has no Midget centers, of course he's going to get more rebounds. MJ had to fight for his stats while Lebron is given free reign to take as many open jump shots as he wants in single coverage. Lebron averages 1.6 Offensive rebounds a game in the playoffs so I'd imagine out of those 10 rebounds he averages in elimination games, not many are offensive rebounds. Stat padding defensive rebounds that don't matter makes you better than MJ? Shooting wide open uncontested Jumpers makes you better than MJ? LEL, Lebron is a Joke.

http://basketball91.com/files/2012/07/Mugsy-Bogues.jpg

[sportjames23]

http://basketball91.com/files/2012/07/Mugsy-Bogues.jpg


Nah, son. More like:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MZn7xZUTLUo/TNRNdMrSICI/AAAAAAAAAfw/J98zDa8Wqwo/s320/MJ+Ewing.jpg

[r15mohd]

Nah, son. More like:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MZn7xZUTLUo/TNRNdMrSICI/AAAAAAAAAfw/J98zDa8Wqwo/s320/MJ+Ewing.jpg


either side can play semantics...the member before says Lebron played against smaller centers (even tho he says "no MIDGET centers" :wtf: )

MJ has played against some of the smallest guards to ever be in the NBA, Webb and Bogues.

by the members dwelling on "inflation", it can go both ways...we learn something new everyday huh :rolleyes:

[Lebron23]

Post Kobe's stats. LeBron and Jordan are way better than Kobe in Elimination Games and Game 7 performances. Stats don't lie.

[OldSchoolBBall]

How about we look at these numbers through age 29 for both of them? Hmm?

[OldSchoolBBall]

MJ's stats in elimination games through age 29 (1992):

32.3 pts/7.7 reb/6.9 ast/47.0% FG

[TheMan]

The Finals has game 7's?

http://ballerball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Michael-Jordan-Rings.jpg
lol...MJ so great he wouldn't let it get to GM 7:bowdown:
/thread

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

MJ's stats in elimination games through age 29 (1992):

32.3 pts/7.7 reb/6.9 ast/47.0% FG

DAT context, tho

[rule1223]

a conference semifinals game does not matter more than a finals game 1

[Unbiased_one]

ISH...where being 6/6 in the finals is better than 6/14.

[riseagainst]

lebrontards are really going full lebrontard recently, using game 7's as the excuse to prop up lebron. If he had played to his full potential to win games 1 through 6 and willed his team to the win then he wouldnt have needed to play a game 7.
:oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

http://basketball91.com/files/2012/07/Mugsy-Bogues.jpg


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2606859/natedeniesGOAT.gif

[riseagainst]

ISH...where being 6/6 in the finals is better than 6/14.

yeah tell me when someone goes 6/14.

:rolleyes:

typical lebrontard logic, making up hypothetical numbers to discredit MJ. How bout sticking with the real world where lebron* is 2/4, two of which he stunk up.

:rolleyes:

[livinglegend]

yeah tell me when someone goes 6/14.

:rolleyes:

typical lebrontard logic, making up hypothetical numbers to discredit MJ. How bout sticking with the real world where lebron* is 2/4, two of which he stunk up.

:rolleyes:

How about 11/12 ( lost one because he was injured)?

[riseagainst]

How about 11/12 ( lost one because he was injured)?

sure, but both are still > lebron.

:oldlol:

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2606859/natedeniesGOAT.gif
WTF? How many times are LeStans going to get ethered? This is getting out of hand.

[riseagainst]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2606859/natedeniesGOAT.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


/ETHER

[livinglegend]

Meh, MJ played in the toughest era in NBA history. Lebron's Assists numbers are greatly inflated due to how they're given out now days and Lebron has no Midget centers, of course he's going to get more rebounds. MJ had to fight for his stats while Lebron is given free reign to take as many open jump shots as he wants in single coverage. Lebron averages 1.6 Offensive rebounds a game in the playoffs so I'd imagine out of those 10 rebounds he averages in elimination games, not many are offensive rebounds. Stat padding defensive rebounds that don't matter makes you better than MJ? Shooting wide open uncontested Jumpers makes you better than MJ? LEL, Lebron is a Joke.

Very weak perimeter era. The best perimeter player outside of Jordan was Pippen and he was also playing with the Bulls.

[livinglegend]

sure, but both are still > lebron.

:oldlol:

Lebron s career is still going, but one thing will remain the same
Russell>MJ...

[Deuce Bigalow]

Very weak perimeter era. The best perimeter player outside of Jordan was Pippen and he was also playing with the Bulls.
Want to know of a weak era? An era were Shaq is retired, Kobe is old, Duncan is old, KG is old, Dirk is old. Then on top of that, the next best player right now has his best teammate out for the playoffs. And the second best player in the East has a great team, but the only problem is that he doesn't have a functioning ACL to play on. :oldlol:

[tmacattack33]

Lebron has been in a lot of elimination games that he shouldn't have been in...he disappears for games at a time and it ends up in situations he shouldn't be in.

Funny how a Lebron hater would use the exact opposite argument in 2011. Lebron played fantastic in the earlier rounds but was crucified for how he did in the series that mattered most.

So, which one will it be? The earlier games matter or don't matter?

[livinglegend]

Want to know of a weak era? An era were Shaq is retired, Kobe is old, Duncan is old, KG is old, Dirk is old. Then on top of that, the next best player right now has his best teammate out for the playoffs. And the second best player in the East has a great team, but the only problem is that he doesn't have a functioning ACL to play on. :oldlol:

:biggums:
Where were Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, KG and Dirk when Jordan was playing? You re really dumb.
Also, how about Lebron having Wade injured? and for most of the playoffs, his second best player was former pedo mid-season vet min pick-up Birdman.

[Deuce Bigalow]

:biggums:
Where were Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, KG and Dirk when Jordan was playing? You re really dumb.
Also, how about Lebron having Wade injured? and for most of the playoffs, his second best player was former pedo mid-season vet min pick-up Birdman.
Jordan played against Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Barkley, Robinson, Shaq, Payton, Isiah. Each of those players ended up having a good team around them too at some point.

And to your last point, I'm not really calling Lebron's era weak, I was respond to you claiming Jordan's era was weak. Jordan's era when he was winning rings was stronger than the last 2 years in the playoffs when Lebron won his, don't you think?

[NumberSix]

Funny how a Lebron hater would use the exact opposite argument in 2011. Lebron played fantastic in the earlier rounds but was crucified for how he did in the series that mattered most.

So, which one will it be? The earlier games matter or don't matter?
According to Jordan mythologists, the finals is the only round that counts.

[Unbiased_one]

yeah tell me when someone goes 6/14.

:rolleyes:

typical lebrontard logic, making up hypothetical numbers to discredit MJ. How bout sticking with the real world where lebron* is 2/4, two of which he stunk up.

:rolleyes:

I don't even like frigging lebron ffs. Why do you assume that? The fact that mj was perfect in finals shouldn't have any impact...he won six rings and failed to make the finals any other year. We all know that lebron is never going to pass MJ unless he does something pretty spectacular for the rest of his career (an quite frankly that's unlikely). But people should stop pretending that MJ was infallible.

[funnystuff]

Kobe stans showing up angry like this thread has something to do with Kobe. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Lebron > MJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe in games that matter.

Sorry, but stats dont lie. :confusedshrug:

[Marchesk]

Very weak perimeter era. The best perimeter player outside of Jordan was Pippen and he was also playing with the Bulls.

Eh, was he better than Drexler or Payton? Certainly not Magic or Isaiah. Pippen's career benefits from having played with the GOAT. Drexler and Payton didn't get that chance. Neither did Reggie Miller.

[Marchesk]

Lebron s career is still going, but one thing will remain the same
Russell>MJ...

Highly debatable. It's an argument that can be had, unlike the dumb stans today trying to make Lebron or Kobe > Jordan. But it's certainly not the consensus.

Russell had the most stacked team in history. He was an outstanding winner, but who else besides his teammates got to play with that kind of talent? Maybe Magic comes close. Jordan never played with more than 2 HOFers. Russell had eight HOF teammates!

[OJ SIMPSON 2.0]

Very weak perimeter era. The best perimeter player outside of Jordan was Pippen and he was also playing with the Bulls.
80's-90's is probably the toughest era in NBA history. Hand checking was legal and there was no defensive 3 second rule so bigs would just camp out in the paint. To be offensively relevant back then you'd need to have a jumpshot which, *Suprise* *Suprise* Lebron doesn't have. And since offense was so hard to come by back then, everyone who played played good defense. Assists numbers are also inflated for Lebron and were also counted different back then. An assist would only count if the player made the shot immediatly after he got the ball rather than now where they can take a few dribbles then shoot. Just face it, Lebron is an overrated stat padder, to compare him to MJ is pretty laughable.

[funnystuff]

And to all the challenged posters, this thread has NOTHING to do with game 7s.

These stats ALSO include, games that progress to the next round/win ring.

Ex. The heat up 3-0 against the knicks, these stats include Lebrons performance that game to get to 4-0.

Reach farther. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[nathanjizzle]

lebron has only won 45 percent of games in the finals. :lol :lol :lol

[NumberSix]

80's-90's is probably the toughest era in NBA history. Hand checking was legal and there was no defensive 3 second rule so bigs would just camp out in the paint. To be offensively relevant back then you'd need to have a jumpshot which, *Suprise* *Suprise* Lebron doesn't have. And since offense was so hard to come by back then, everyone who played played good defense. Assists numbers are also inflated for Lebron and were also counted different back then. An assist would only count if the player made the shot immediatly after he got the ball rather than now where they can take a few dribbles then shoot. Just face it, Lebron is an overrated stat padder, to compare him to MJ is pretty laughable.
Is this supposed to be a joke?

[funnystuff]

lebron has only won 45 percent of games in the finals. :lol :lol :lol
Atleast he wouldnt be afraid to play if he was 99% healthy.

Enjoy those skittles on the bench mental midget Rose. :roll:

[bagelred]

Lebron James was one "missed Ray Allen shot" from being an epic loser again.

[funnystuff]

Lebron James was one "missed Ray Allen shot" from being an epic loser again.
Just how Derrick Fisher saved Kome right?


ISH, where if Lebrons teammates are relevant its a sin!

[NumberSix]

Lebron James was one "missed Ray Allen shot" from being an epic loser again.
And the spurs were 1 miracle tony Parker shot away from losing the series 4-2. So what?

[Unbiased_one]

Highly debatable. It's an argument that can be had, unlike the dumb stans today trying to make Lebron or Kobe > Jordan. But it's certainly not the consensus.

Russell had the most stacked team in history. He was an outstanding winner, but who else besides his teammates got to play with that kind of talent? Maybe Magic comes close. Jordan never played with more than 2 HOFers. Russell had eight HOF teammates!

Russell didn't actually have 8 teammates who deserved to be in the hall of fame. At least half got in because they played with Russell. (Similarly, you can argue that rodman got in because he played with Jordan and bosh will get in because he played with lebron). All are decent players, but the rings make them HOFers.

[nathanjizzle]

Atleast he wouldnt be afraid to play if he was 99% healthy.

Enjoy those skittles on the bench mental midget Rose. :roll:

and what did roses injury have to do with the point of your thread? you felt insecure about lebron winning 45 percent and jordan winning 69 percent? :roll:

[OJ SIMPSON 2.0]

Is this supposed to be a joke?
Are you implaying that there's an era tougher than the 80's-90's

[IncarceratedBob]

Pathetic thread.

Stop trying to make LeBron and Jordan on the same level, these two shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath.

LeBron already lost on the biggest stage twice, he's no MJ.

[funnystuff]

Pathetic thread.

Stop trying to make LeBron and Jordan on the same level, these two shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath.

LeBron already lost on the biggest stage twice, he's no MJ.
4 MVPs by age 28. You mad?

[IncarceratedBob]

4 MVPs by age 28. You mad?
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg~original

LBJ in the 4th quarter of the games that MATTER the most.

[funnystuff]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/Funny%20NBA%20Record/Lebron%20James/aka%20big%20choker/lebron-james-2011-nba-final-4q.jpg~original

LBJ in the 4th quarter of the games that MATTER the most.
Brings up something thats almost 4 years old.:lol

Reaaaching.

But your boy Kobe in 2004 was way worse than Lebron in 2011. Kobe enjoys playing 1on 9.

[riseagainst]

Brings up something thats almost 4 years old.:lol

Reaaaching.

But your boy Kobe in 2004 was way worse than Lebron in 2011. Kobe enjoys playing 1on 9.


this is how you know lebrontards are stupid as hell.

Bashes you for bringing up something 4 years old, when he mentioned something that happened 10 years ago.

:roll:

[funnystuff]

this is how you know lebrontards are stupid as hell.

Bashes you for bringing up something 4 years old, when he mentioned something that happened 10 years ago.

:roll:
Only did it because he did. Maybe if you didnt have the IQ of a dead squirrel you would understand.

[diamenz]

funnystuff since you seem to be so into the subject, it would be neat if you could go back and fetch all of those games by lebron and jordan and dissect them individually. it would be interesting to dig deeper and find out at what points of the game those stats actually did matter most, and how other players on each team performed.

[NASH = BEST]

Sometimes I wish Ray Allen wouldn't have hit that 3 pointer to save LeBron and the Heat. It would have saved us from all these dumb threads.

To OP, yes Lebron >>>>>> MJ :rolleyes:

Now leave!!

All summer long man, f*cking Ray Allen, he doesn't even know!