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9erempiree
08-14-2013, 07:26 AM
We see how crappy this era is with the lack of Centers. Most people like to argue that it's very weak defensively too. Hand checking was thrown out years ago and the zone defense has been allowed. Some say this made the NBA much weaker and that inflated their stats.

I believe Lebron will never crack the top 10 greatest players of all time because every one of those guys have played in the hand checking era.

Do you think Lebron can play in the hand checking era?

K Xerxes
08-14-2013, 07:35 AM
Yes, greatness transcends eras.

LeBron can only play what's in front of him, and he was shaped by this current league. It's not his fault he came into a physically watered down league. You give him the previous era, allow him time to adapt his game to suit those needs, and he'd be a top 3 player at least in any era. A different player, but a great player nonetheless.

Also, I would like to point out that even if his offensive output decreases, his defensive abilities would without question be greater. Giving a 6'8 250lb athletic monster those defensive opportunities, and you're looking at an even better perimeter defender.

Finally, it's worth saying that LeBron has historically struggled more against more zoned defenses than man to man.

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 07:39 AM
Yes, greatness transcends eras.

LeBron can only play what's in front of him, and he was shaped by this current league. It's not his fault he came into a physically watered down league. You give him the previous era, allow him time to adapt his game to suit those needs, and he'd be a top 3 player at least in any era. A different player, but a great player nonetheless.

Also, I would like to point out that even if his offensive output decreases, his defensive abilities would without question be greater. Giving a 6'8 250lb athletic monster those defensive opportunities, and you're looking at an even better perimeter defender.

Finally, it's worth saying that LeBron has historically struggled more against more zoned defenses than man to man.

I was thinking of the same thing but I don't want to hear that "Wilt Chamberlain" argument and that is, if he played in this era, he would have adapted to the era. I'm talking about how Lebron played in his entire career. His game up to date.

I do agree that he would be much better defensively and because of that, he would only be a complimentary player to another team's star. Lebron in the hand checking era would be a defensive specialist. He would be just too good on defense and his offense would be horrible for any coach to make him first option on offense.

K Xerxes
08-14-2013, 07:44 AM
I was thinking of the same thing but I don't want to hear that "Wilt Chamberlain" argument and that is, if he played in this era, he would have adapted to the era. I'm talking about how Lebron played in his entire career. His game up to date.

I do agree that he would be much better defensively and because of that, he would only be a complimentary player to another team's star. Lebron in the hand checking era would be a defensive specialist. He would be just too good on defense and his offense would be horrible for any coach to make him first option on offense.

I posted my thoughts with the intention of expressing my opinions on this particular topic, not to have a debate with you and your agenda driven crap.

LeBron would not be a defensive "specialist" in any era. He'd be an all round beast, and, once again, a top 3 or 2 player any year you put him in, assuming you give him time to adjust his game. It's not fair to throw him into another style of ball if he has shaped his game in a different set of rules and different culture.

That's all I'll say.

JtotheIzzo
08-14-2013, 07:45 AM
We see how crappy this era is with the lack of Centers. Most people like to argue that it's very weak defensively too. Hand checking was thrown out years ago and the zone defense has been allowed. Some say this made the NBA much weaker and that inflated their stats.

I believe Lebron will never crack the top 10 greatest players of all time because every one of those guys have played in the hand checking era.

Do you think Lebron can play in the hand checking era?

Yes, the strongest and fastest guy ever at his size would be completely neutralized because players weighing 50 to 60 pounds less and who have slower feet than him would hand check him into submission...

This is a troll thread, you are not creative when you take the same approach and apply it to every single circumstance under the sun.

but I digress, and I will take the bait, your boy Kobe (see what I did there, I got to the root straight away) would struggle much more mightily under handchecking as his side to side game would allow for defenders to push him further east/west with a hand check allowing them time to recover and take away the penetration.

Kobe would be a jumpshooter...but not really because greatness transcends eras, Kobe and LeBron would be great in ANY era, neither is the benefactor of some anomaly in rules or competition that has given them unfair ascension to the top of their field, and your constant desire to prove that this is the case for LBJ is exhausting to everyone.

SuperPippen
08-14-2013, 07:53 AM
I was thinking of the same thing but I don't want to hear that "Wilt Chamberlain" argument and that is, if he played in this era, he would have adapted to the era. I'm talking about how Lebron played in his entire career. His game up to date.

I do agree that he would be much better defensively and because of that, he would only be a complimentary player to another team's star. Lebron in the hand checking era would be a defensive specialist. He would be just too good on defense and his offense would be horrible for any coach to make him first option on offense.

.......:facepalm

I wonder if you are honestly, HONESTLY convinced this bullshit is true, and if it truly makes you feel better to believe in it. Every time that that is appears that you have decided to cool it with the inane trolling, you spew even more garbage. It's gross.


And you definitely haven't been watching the NBA for 25 years. I didn't want to derail your other thread, but you need to get called out on that shit.

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 08:01 AM
.......:facepalm

I wonder if you are honestly, HONESTLY convinced this bullshit is true, and if it truly makes you feel better to believe in it. Every time that that is appears that you have decided to cool it with the inane trolling, you spew even more garbage. It's gross.


And you definitely haven't been watching the NBA for 25 years. I didn't want to derail your other thread, but you need to get called out on that shit.

How is that not a reasonable thing to say when he left Cleveland to go compliment Wade and Bosh. Wade and Bosh also compliments Lebron. Just like players in the past, MJ compliments Pippen, Gasol and Shaq compliments Kobe and Kenny Smith compliments Hakeem.

Lebron has holes in his offensive game and his best attribute is passing, running in transition and defense. His strengths in the hand checking era would make him much more effective as a defensive force. Suddenly people think defensive specialist is a curse word. He would still get his points but not as easy as he is now.

SpaceJammeR
08-14-2013, 08:05 AM
thread backfire. lmao. :roll:

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 08:11 AM
thread backfire. lmao. :roll:

^^^ and the trolls arrive. :facepalm

Lebron23
08-14-2013, 08:11 AM
thread backfire. lmao. :roll:


Kobestards are on suicide watch when LeBron and Miamis wins their 3rd straight championship.

SuperPippen
08-14-2013, 08:17 AM
Kobestards are on suicide watch when LeBron and Miamis wins their 3rd straight championship.

I strongly dislike LeBron, but I honestly would not mind seeing him win a 3rd chip in a dominant fashion, just because I know that that loser 9er would beshiting his pants.

Overdrive
08-14-2013, 08:40 AM
A guy who takes the ball to the hoop most of the time would suck when defenders wouldn't be allowed to sack off of him in order to prevent drives? No zone is a bigger advantage for Lebron than handchecking is a disadvantage.

Mr Exlax
08-14-2013, 08:59 AM
A guy who takes the ball to the hoop most of the time would suck when defenders wouldn't be allowed to sack off of him in order to prevent drives? No zone is a bigger advantage for Lebron than handchecking is a disadvantage.

This. Seriously, Stevie Wonder could see this.

OP obviously doesn't understand basketball. He must be a fan of one player and not a fan of the game.

I<3NBA
08-14-2013, 09:36 AM
Lebron has trouble with zones, not hand checking. you put him in that era and he would truly be greater than MJ. both offensively and defensively.

asdf1990
08-14-2013, 09:59 AM
the real question is if you put kobe in other eras without prime shaq and then gasol/bynum/odom would he even be relevant? who would bail him out in pressure situations where he is invisible ?

poido123
08-14-2013, 10:10 AM
Lebron has trouble with zones, not hand checking. you put him in that era and he would truly be greater than MJ. both offensively and defensively.

Whoahhh there buddy :lol:

I know your a fan of Lebron, but you say that like it's fact when really most people will disagree with what you said.

IMO, Lebron would adapt and be forced to fast track an efficient postup game. He would also be mentally stronger, as he would have to earn a reputation and get paid on merit, which I believe is why he struggles mentally at times in today's league. Guys of the handchecking era were a different breed to players today...

As for defenses, he most certainly wouldn't find it easier in the handchecking era. Defenses were alot more physical and there were some brutal trashtalkers who threw you off your game.

Mr Exlax
08-14-2013, 11:19 AM
Whoahhh there buddy :lol:

I know your a fan of Lebron, but you say that like it's fact when really most people will disagree with what you said.

IMO, Lebron would adapt and be forced to fast track an efficient postup game. He would also be mentally stronger, as he would have to earn a reputation and get paid on merit, which I believe is why he struggles mentally at times in today's league. Guys of the handchecking era were a different breed to players today...

As for defenses, he most certainly wouldn't find it easier in the handchecking era. Defenses were alot more physical and there were some brutal trashtalkers who threw you off your game.

So, your response is also an opinion, but you say that like it's fact?

Wally450
08-14-2013, 11:22 AM
A good amount of players today are backwards compatible to other era's while only some from back in the day could play today IMO.

scm5
08-14-2013, 11:30 AM
Lebron has trouble with zones, not hand checking. you put him in that era and he would truly be greater than MJ. both offensively and defensively.

No. Don't get me wrong, Lebron would thrive in the handchecking era just like he's thriving right now, but he doesn't have the competitiveness and drive that MJ had.

The defense back then wasn't exactly stifling. People still scored at will, just like in today's game. What it did was wear down on you over the course of the game, the season.

Mr Exlax
08-14-2013, 11:33 AM
No. Don't get me wrong, Lebron would thrive in the handchecking era just like he's thriving right now, but he doesn't have the competitiveness and drive that MJ had.

The defense back then wasn't exactly stifling. People still scored at will, just like in today's game. What it did was wear down on you over the course of the game, the season.

I kinda agree with the guy though. I think LeBron would be greater than MJ. Not more skilled or anything, just a better player or more impact on the game. He's never gonna reach MJs competitiveness, but he doesn't have to. James Harden isn't as competitive as Nate Robinson, but he's still better than him.

Oh yeah and the defenses back then I could see LeBron having his way against them. It was a lot more physical than it is now, but even with LeBron's size it wouldn't matter.

secund2nun
08-14-2013, 11:43 AM
Yes, 6'8 265 pound pure muscle Lebron James cannot play in the hand checking era :roll:

Imagine if Lebron had the ability to hand check. His defense would be even scarier than it is now.

Do you guys realize how dumb you sound?

scm5
08-14-2013, 11:46 AM
I kinda agree with the guy though. I think LeBron would be greater than MJ. Not more skilled or anything, just a better player or more impact on the game. He's never gonna reach MJs competitiveness, but he doesn't have to. James Harden isn't as competitive as Nate Robinson, but he's still better than him.

Oh yeah and the defenses back then I could see LeBron having his way against them. It was a lot more physical than it is now, but even with LeBron's size it wouldn't matter.

Lebron has played against more physical defenses (Celtics, Bulls) and they have shown that he's not exactly unstoppable. It's not just speculation.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-14-2013, 11:46 AM
I kinda agree with the guy though. I think LeBron would be greater than MJ. Not more skilled or anything, just a better player or more impact on the game. He's never gonna reach MJs competitiveness, but he doesn't have to. James Harden isn't as competitive as Nate Robinson, but he's still better than him.

Oh yeah and the defenses back then I could see LeBron having his way against them. It was a lot more physical than it is now, but even with LeBron's size it wouldn't matter.

:oldlol:

scm5
08-14-2013, 11:47 AM
Yes, 6'8 265 pound pure muscle Lebron James cannot play in the hand checking era :roll:

Imagine if Lebron had the ability to hand check. His defense would be even scarier than it is now.

Do you guys realize how dumb you sound?

Not saying he wouldn't be able to play, just saying that he wouldn't absolutely dominate the game and be better/greater than MJ was. That is a ridiculous statement to me.

Myth
08-14-2013, 11:56 AM
LeBron's offense gets a little worse, but I think his defense would actually become great.

Straight_Ballin
08-14-2013, 12:03 PM
We see how crappy this era is with the lack of Centers. Most people like to argue that it's very weak defensively too. Hand checking was thrown out years ago and the zone defense has been allowed. Some say this made the NBA much weaker and that inflated their stats.

I believe Lebron will never crack the top 10 greatest players of all time because every one of those guys have played in the hand checking era.

Do you think Lebron can play in the hand checking era?

There are better ways to deal with you insecurities about Kobe's issues in the hand checking era. A troll thread about lebron James is not one if those ways.

Mr Exlax
08-14-2013, 12:13 PM
Lebron has played against more physical defenses (Celtics, Bulls) and they have shown that he's not exactly unstoppable. It's not just speculation.

It wasn't the physicality that was stopping him/slowing him down IMO. It was more of the defensive schemes. They were allowed to shadow him and run zones and all that. They couldn't do that in the Hand Check Era.

The funniest part about my argument though is that I think this current Miami team wouldn't win a championship though. It's not that I don't think LeBron isn't good enough, I just don't think Miami is a well put together team. I mean, they are for this era I guess, but even then it's shaky to me. I thoroughly hate that one person has to lead his team in that many categories in order for them to win. It's not fair.

imdaman99
08-14-2013, 12:33 PM
:biggums: he can barely play in the boris diaw era :biggums:

DaSeba5
08-14-2013, 12:34 PM
Just put the OP on your ignore list, and save yourself the trouble.

Carbine
08-14-2013, 12:37 PM
There's hand checking now - you see it time and time again in the playoffs with no call.

It's the regular season where it gets called a lot more often.

LeBron would be fine. You could argue it would make him an even more disruptive defensive player if he could use his hand/forearm to guide smaller players all the time without it being a foul.

Lakers2877
08-14-2013, 12:40 PM
No. No way a 6'8 260lb athletic freak could play in a era where you can touch a guy while playing defense. He would have been lucky to come off the bench in the D league. Great thread/question OP

PJR
08-14-2013, 12:50 PM
He'd do just fine. Just like he's doing now.

http://images.gmanews.tv/v3/webpics/v3/2013/06/2013_06_06_09_00_24.jpg

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0527/james_lebron_g_mp_576.jpg

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1116/nba_g_lebron-james_mb_576.jpg

The hand check goes on PLENTY. It's called very inconsistently. I've seen Avery Bradley "Derek Harper" guys all the way to the rim.

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 02:58 PM
A guy who takes the ball to the hoop most of the time would suck when defenders wouldn't be allowed to sack off of him in order to prevent drives? No zone is a bigger advantage for Lebron than handchecking is a disadvantage.

According to us that watch MJ and Kobe in the hand checking era, they still played zone.

There was the fantastic video showing MJ against zone defense.

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 03:02 PM
Yes, 6'8 265 pound pure muscle Lebron James cannot play in the hand checking era :roll:

Imagine if Lebron had the ability to hand check. His defense would be even scarier than it is now.

Do you guys realize how dumb you sound?

That's my point he would be ridiculous on defense and would be better as a defensive specialist.

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 03:04 PM
If anything, LeBron's numbers skyrockets without the floating zone fortress and 1on1 isolation basketball of the 90s. LMAO at the OP.

They already play zone back in the days. Just go research those MJ vs Kobe threads about defenses where Jordan fans posted those excellent videos about the Knicks' zone defense.

IncarceratedBob
08-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Kobestards are on suicide watch when LeBron and Miamis wins their 3rd straight championship.
Until you realize that Kobe already won 3 straight championships...

then won 2 more.:roll:

OJ SIMPSON 2.0
08-14-2013, 03:41 PM
Lebron would be poop. He has no jumpshot, Centers camp in the paint because no defensive 3 seconds, and silly touch fouls aren't called. Some people say Lebron would Adjust but come on, Lebron is soft. Go ask DJ Augustine.

GrapeApe
08-14-2013, 04:17 PM
The hand checking thing is totally overblown. It's not some huge, game altering rule change as some would have have you believe. It's impact is minimal and as someone else mentioned, playoff basketball is basically the same as it was pre rule change. A lot of people who bring up the hand checking rule don't even understand what hand checking is.

tmacattack33
08-14-2013, 04:35 PM
If hand checking was allowed, Lebron would be even better compared to the other perimeter players, as the 6'8 250 lb beast would be less affected by a hand check than all of these guys: , Wade, Durant, Westbrook, Kyrie, Carmelo, Harden, Jrue Holiday, D Rose, Kobe, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, and much more (pretty much every PG, SG, and SF in the league).

:oldlol:

NumberSix
08-14-2013, 04:40 PM
If hand checking was allowed, Lebron would be even better compared to the other perimeter players, as the 6'8 250 lb beast would be less affected by a hand check than all of these guys: , Wade, Durant, Westbrook, Kyrie, Carmelo, Harden, Jrue Holiday, D Rose, Kobe, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, and much more (pretty much every PG, SG, and SF in the league).

:oldlol:
This. If hand checking is such a big deal, then everybody's offensive impact would dip. A guy likes LeBron would dip much less than everybody else though. Making the gap between him and everyone else even bigger.

PickernRoller
08-14-2013, 05:54 PM
The correct answer is: Yes he can play.

Would he be as successful as he's today in the hand-checking era? NO. Unless he develops his mid range game to elite status.

Lebron's PnR drive-to-the-basket game would be severely limited and counted for in the hand checking era. Plus back then there were better quality bigs all around playing for NBA teams.

Will he adjust? Unknown.

LongLiveTheKing
08-14-2013, 06:08 PM
Jordan said today only Lebron, Tim, Kobe, and Dirk could play in that era.
I know Lebron and TD would not sure about Kobe and Dirk.

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 06:15 PM
Jordan said today only Lebron, Tim, Kobe, and Dirk could play in that era.
I know Lebron and TD would not sure about Kobe and Dirk.

Kobe already played in hand checking era.

:facepalm

Go to my thread and please state how many years you've been watching NBA.

LongLiveTheKing
08-14-2013, 06:20 PM
Kobe already played in hand checking era.

:facepalm

Go to my thread and please state how many years you've been watching NBA.
Kobe played in the hand-checking era but he didn't do so good.
He averaged
97- 7 points
98- 15 points
99- 20 points
00- 22 points

In 01 they removed some more hand checking and he averaged 28.
Seems like Kobe wouldn't be that good?

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 06:20 PM
No. No way a 6'8 260lb athletic freak could play in a era where you can touch a guy while playing defense. He would have been lucky to come off the bench in the D league. Great thread/question OP

Lebron's looks are very deceiving. Did you see how many times he fell to the floor this last year.

Either he's very weak -or- known flopper.

Pick your poison people.

tazb
08-14-2013, 06:24 PM
Not only would he be able to dominate it, he would dominate it twice as much as he does this era. Much easier, fast paced, filled with bunch of under-sized 6'4 players who wouldn't be able to check LeBron on the perimeter.

LongLiveTheKing
08-14-2013, 06:28 PM
Kobe in the hand-checking era.

He averaged
97- 7 points
98- 15 points
99- 20 points
00- 22 points

Heavincent
08-14-2013, 06:29 PM
Not only would he be able to dominate it, he would dominate it twice as much as he does this era. Much easier, fast paced, filled with bunch of under-sized 6'4 players who wouldn't be able to check LeBron on the perimeter.

http://i.imgur.com/H1PeiZ2.jpg

http://oi39.tinypic.com/160xykn.jpg

http://oi39.tinypic.com/288poj8.jpg

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/51fd983a58344/51fd983a5296b-fdfd.png

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/51fd9ef296e7d/51fd9ef28d239-fdfd.png

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/51fda985ba7b1/51fda985b4dd9-fdfd.png

chazzy
08-14-2013, 10:13 PM
Ether


Watch the OP not respond to this. Kobe ain't shit with the handchecking in place (pre-2001).
lol at this Kobe fan (immortald24) on a gimmick account

TheMilkyBarKid
08-14-2013, 10:17 PM
Op may have 25 years of basketball viewing under his belt but his mental retardation leaves his comprehension of the game very poor.

poido123
08-14-2013, 10:19 PM
So, your response is also an opinion, but you say that like it's fact?

Note that I said IMO?

I believe that to be the case, but I didn't say it was fact.

You might be a rockets fan, but you are always on Lebron's nuts. FACT

poido123
08-14-2013, 10:20 PM
Op may have 25 years of basketball viewing under his belt but his mental retardation leaves his comprehension of the game very poor.

He is 19.

In the other thread, KBlaze called him out.

LongLiveTheKing
08-14-2013, 10:32 PM
Ether


Watch the OP not respond to this. Kobe ain't shit with the handchecking in place (pre-2001).
Still waiting for him. :lol

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 11:30 PM
He is 19.

In the other thread, KBlaze called him out.

How does Kblaze even know my age? Oh wait, because I randomly clicked a year and date when I register. Who puts real information on a message board?

9erempiree
08-14-2013, 11:32 PM
Ether


Watch the OP not respond to this. Kobe ain't shit with the handchecking in place (pre-2001).

22 year old Kobe, averaged 22 and not even his prime. He would have easily put up MJ numbers as he reached his prime. You don't even need to read the box scores to know that. Just watch how he was shatting on players who tried to guard him.

His game was pretty much the same then as it is now, except with killer handles, quickness, first step and explosiveness.

What does Kobe's numbers have to do with whether Lebron can dominate or not. Kobe has an all around game that Lebron doesn't have. No holes in his game like Lebron. If the argument is Lebron can play in hand checking era, prime Kobe would be putting up even better numbers.

LongLiveTheKing
08-15-2013, 02:02 AM
22 year old Kobe, averaged 22 and not even his prime. He would have easily put up MJ numbers as he reached his prime. You don't even need to read the box scores to know that. Just watch how he was shatting on players who tried to guard him.

His game was pretty much the same then as it is now, except with killer handles, quickness, first step and explosiveness.

What does Kobe's numbers have to do with whether Lebron can dominate or not. Kobe has an all around game that Lebron doesn't have. No holes in his game like Lebron. If the argument is Lebron can play in hand checking era, prime Kobe would be putting up even better numbers.
Lebron could based on his size and well Kobe couldn't based on the stats I provided. :lol

ralph_i_el
08-15-2013, 02:17 AM
We see how crappy this era is with the lack of Centers. Most people like to argue that it's very weak defensively too. Hand checking was thrown out years ago and the zone defense has been allowed. Some say this made the NBA much weaker and that inflated their stats.

I believe Lebron will never crack the top 10 greatest players of all time because every one of those guys have played in the hand checking era.

Do you think Lebron can play in the hand checking era?

Defense isn't weak today :facepalm ISO play is getting stomped out of the game and there are less 20+ ppg scorers than at pretty much any point ever. Tom thibs D that won Boston a championship has taken over. That's why everyone is so nuts about the corner 3 now because having guys that can hit it prevents your PnR's from being forced to the baseline.

But you don't want to hear all that. You're just trolling

Why wouldn't bron be able to play in the hand checking era? If he was born back then he'd have grown up playing with it and he'd do it just as well as anyone else.

KOBE143
08-15-2013, 02:35 AM
I doubt LeBron could play in any era the way he's playing right now maybe with the exception of the 50/60 weak era.. He would probably dominate there just like any other player even scrub of today.. If I would define an era-specific player to a player then LeBron would be my 1st definition and Wilt as close 2nd.. They're both great in their era but their game would not transcend in any era.. I just notice both are also GOAT choker.. Coincidence? :confusedshrug:

9erempiree
08-15-2013, 03:57 AM
I doubt LeBron could play in any era the way he's playing right now maybe with the exception of the 50/60 weak era.. He would probably dominate there just like any other player even scrub of today.. If I would define an era-specific player to a player then LeBron would be my 1st definition and Wilt as close 2nd.. They're both great in their era but their game would not transcend in any era.. I just notice both are also GOAT choker.. Coincidence? :confusedshrug:

So eloquent and well written. I couldn't have said it any better.

DetroitPistonFan
08-15-2013, 05:33 AM
Kobestards are on suicide watch when LeBron and Miamis wins their 3rd straight championship.
I don't think the Heat will go back to the Finals for the 4th straight time. That hasn't been done since the 80's Lakers. I think Bulls would've done if Jordan didn't retire though.

zoom17
08-15-2013, 06:34 PM
We see how crappy this era is with the lack of Centers. Most people like to argue that it's very weak defensively too. Hand checking was thrown out years ago and the zone defense has been allowed. Some say this made the NBA much weaker and that inflated their stats.

I believe Lebron will never crack the top 10 greatest players of all time because every one of those guys have played in the hand checking era.

Do you think Lebron can play in the hand checking era?

I dont know but your mom sure would. get lebron out your head man Lebron>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe

zoom17
08-15-2013, 06:35 PM
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
I doubt LeBron could play in any era the way he's playing right now maybe with the exception of the 50/60 weak era.. He would probably dominate there just like any other player even scrub of today.. If I would define an era-specific player to a player then LeBron would be my 1st definition and Wilt as close 2nd.. They're both great in their era but their game would not transcend in any era.. I just notice both are also GOAT choker.. Coincidence? :confusedshrug:

diamenz
08-15-2013, 06:43 PM
just the simple fact that there is debate on the subject should tell you he wouldn't do as well in the hand check era. someone like rose or nash you wouldn't question because of their incredible penetrative abilities.

9erempiree
08-15-2013, 06:44 PM
just the simple fact that there is debate on the subject should tell you he wouldn't do as well in the hand check era. someone like rose or nash you wouldn't question because of their incredible penetrative abilities.

yep.

People say I troll but I bring topics that are worthy of discussion and I don't think he can play in any era like a majority of people who agreed with me.

zoom17
08-15-2013, 06:46 PM
yep.

People say I troll but I bring topics that are worthy of discussion and I don't think he can play in any era like a majority of people who agreed with me.

No your a troll you either talking about kobe or Lebron dumbass

madmax
08-15-2013, 06:48 PM
just the simple fact that there is debate on the subject should tell you he wouldn't do as well in the hand check era. someone like rose or nash you wouldn't question because of their incredible penetrative abilities.

:roll:
so you're saying someone like Rose or Nash would fare better against physical defenses than freak of the nature Lebron? Interesting

9erempiree
08-15-2013, 06:49 PM
No your a troll you either talking about kobe or Lebron dumbass

April 2013
Posts: 23

4 monts and averages 6 posts a month.

:facepalm


You don't know me.

LakersForlife
08-15-2013, 07:51 PM
yeah he can. he can flop all he wants dudes an actor:lol

zoom17
08-15-2013, 08:25 PM
yeah he can. he can flop all he wants dudes an actor:lol
Keep hating while he keeps racking up rings hater

diamenz
08-15-2013, 09:16 PM
:roll:
so you're saying someone like Rose or Nash would fare better against physical defenses than freak of the nature Lebron? Interesting

is that a question or a statement in disguise?

that was just my opinion.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
08-15-2013, 09:21 PM
LeBron's offense gets a little worse, but I think his defense would actually become great.

This. I'd pay to see Lebron play Riley's Knicks and the Bad Boy Pistons. Hell, watching him go at Gerald Wilkins and those crazy Cavs teams in the early 90's would be something, too.

Greg Oden 50
08-18-2013, 10:34 AM
he would not get to rim at easy as he right now............

Kblaze8855
08-18-2013, 11:17 AM
How does Kblaze even know my age? Oh wait, because I randomly clicked a year and date when I register.

I know your age because you post on more than one forum. And you shouldnt use phrases exclusive to you while clearly being a Kobe fan as well on that other forum...where you also talk about your personal life.

That it happens to be the same as your profile information here just makes it more obvious. I generally look the other way because I know nobody believes your Bs about being a fan for 25 years anyway. But you asked.

Nastradamus
08-18-2013, 11:27 AM
The actual defense is much better in the non hand checking era

LA Lakers
08-20-2013, 05:37 AM
Did the OP of this thread really put Kenny Smith on the same pedestal as Scottie Pippen and Pau Gasol as a number 2 option on those championship Rockets teams?! Hahaha. Way to go kid! You just outed yourself as a guy who has no clue what hes talking about!

LA Lakers
08-20-2013, 05:51 AM
People forget it wasn't so much the handchecking rules as it was the physicality of the teams and players willing to play a contact match. and once Jordan started dominating the game the wheels were in place to pack the paint and play zone defenses. Jordan was cutting teams up too easily. The game is more fun to watch now because of it now I guess?
Anyway, its not in question that not only would Lebron play, its a given that hed dominate. Come on. You been watching basketball for 25 years how about the last 10? Hes amazing. Get outta here.

Tking714
08-20-2013, 11:02 AM
He'd be better. He's too strong. His game falls apart vs Zone D; not man to man