Why do Laker fans hate Pau Gasol?

[TonyMontana]

LA was first round fodder before he came, and Gasol immedietly made them the best team in the West. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. If he never comes LA is still irrelevant so I don't get why he is hated on.

Thats like Heat fans hating on LeBron who came to Miami( a first round fodder team) and immedietly made them the elite team in the East. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. Yet LeBron is loved by Heat fans and Gasol gets constantly abused.

Most disrespected superstar of all-time by his fanbase.

[Electric Slide]

Pau Gasol was the best player on that 2010 Lakers team and was robbed of that Finals MVP.

Lakers fans appreciate him, Kobe fans hate him.

[Ca$H]

LA was first round fodder before he came, and Gasol immedietly made them the best team in the West. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. If he never comes LA is still irrelevant so I don't get why he is hated on.

Thats like Heat fans hating on LeBron who came to Miami( a first round fodder team) and immedietly made them the elite team in the East. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. Yet LeBron is loved by Heat fans and Gasol gets constantly abused.

Most disrespected superstar of all-time by his fanbase.

false Lakers were first seed before Gasol came when Bynum was healthy.

[All Net]

Who hates him? true Laker fans will always remember what he did during the championships runs...he is also important to any successful season we may have.

[TonyMontana]

Pau Gasol was the best player on that 2010 Lakers team and was robbed of that Finals MVP.

Lakers fans appreciate him, Kobe fans hate him.

Yeah, I think its to try and prop up Kobe. Doubt these guys care about anyone else on the team.


false Lakers were first seed before Gasol came when Bynum was healthy.

Healthy Bynum?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif

Great when hes healthy, but when he goes down so does the Lakers season.


Who hates him? true Laker fans will always remember what he did during the championships runs...he is also important to any successful season we may have.

Hate may be the wrong term, disrespected would probably be better. He never seems to get the credit he deserves from his own fanbase even though he led La in winshares in the 2009 regular season, and both the 2010 regular season AND postseason. The 2011 regular season as well.

And if he played the entire 2008 regular season with LA instead of half, he'd have led them in winshares then too.

[funnystuff]

Because they know he was the rightful owner of the FMVP trophy in 2010.

[Ca$H]

Because they know he was the rightful owner of the FMVP trophy in 2010.

LOL. Gasol played like crap in all the road games in the 2010 finals. Dude didn't even show up for game 5.

[funnystuff]

LOL. Gasol played like crap in all the road games in the 2010 finals. Dude didn't even show up for game 5.
6-24 isn't crap? :confusedshrug:

Its a sad day when someone gets awarded a FMVP trophy after shooting 6-24 in a game 7. :oldlol:

[Ca$H]

6-24 isn't crap? :confusedshrug:

Its a sad day when someone gets awarded a FMVP trophy after shooting 6-24 in a game 7. :oldlol:

Game 5 Kobe 13-27 38 points. Gascrub 5-12 12 points playing super soft. If Gascrub played to his usual standards then there would be no game 7. Not to mention Gasol's studly 13 point game 3 in which Kobe and Fisher had to carry his ass.

1 bad game(kobe) is better than 2 bad games(gasol). You imbecile.

[AintNoSunshine]

He's the real fmvp in 09? and also they need someone to be the scapegoat whenever kobe can't deliver and he happened to be a tall european who would risk team chemistry by speaking his mind that makes him the goat goat:confusedshrug:

[funnystuff]

Game 5 Kobe 13-27 38 points. Gascrub 5-12 12 points playing super soft. If Gascrub played to his usual standards then there would be no game 7. Not to mention Gasol's studly 13 point game 3 in which Kobe and Fisher had to carry his ass.

1 bad game(kobe) is better than 2 bad games(gasol). You imbecile.
Just so happens that Kobes bad game HAPPENED to be the most important of the series. :rolleyes:

Just kind of disgusting to watch that trophy being given to the guy who, just minutes before, shot 6-24.

[KOBE143]

I dont hate Pau and Ive never seen any true Lakers fans that hate him maybe they hate his game when he play softer than his normal soft game.. :confusedshrug:

[Swaggin916]

Cus he's someone to blame. He played like shit a couple years ago though.

[funnystuff]

I dont hate Pau and Ive never seen any true Lakers fans that hate him maybe they hate his game when he play softer than his normal soft game.. :confusedshrug:
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/143/581/8474739.jpg

[SamuraiSWISH]

LOL @ Gasol being a "superstar", guy is a Chris Bosh level player. If Gasol is a "superstar" then so is Bosh, and that makes Wade a top ten player of all-time.

Gasol is that Chris Bosh level player. Meaning he takes his team to the playoffs at best, doesn't do anything in them, lucky to lead his team to one win ... in Gasol's case not any playoff wins prior to joining the Lakers.

Why do they hate Gasol? With good reason, inconsistency, and he's a huge gaping feminine wet hole.

He's basically the reason the Lakers didn't compete in the 2008 Finals. Allowing the Celtics to zone up completely on Kobe due to his getting punked so bad by Garnett, he was literally afraid to do anything. Making him a non factor on offense, Kobe having to carry the entire load.

His passive, apathetic, soft, depressive attitude kept the Lakers from having a chance to three peat in 2011. He was bitter over Chi-town boy Shannon Brown going balls deep in his fiance.

And then in 2012, failed to take advantage of the one huge glaring advantage LA had over OKC, which was interior scoring and rebounding. Then in the Olympics goes on to play his heart for Spain, looking vintage in the process.

We don't call him Paula Gasoft for no reason.

[Deuce Bigalow]

LA was first round fodder before he came, and Gasol immedietly made them the best team in the West. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. If he never comes LA is still irrelevant so I don't get why he is hated on.

Thats like Heat fans hating on LeBron who came to Miami( a first round fodder team) and immedietly made them the elite team in the East. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. Yet LeBron is loved by Heat fans and Gasol gets constantly abused.

Most disrespected superstar of all-time by his fanbase.
Lakers were 30-16 in 2007-08 before Gasol came, neck and neck with New Orleans for the #1 seed in the Western Conference.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lakers were 30-16 in 2007-08 before Gasol came, neck and neck with New Orleans for the #1 seed in the Western Conference.
No need to explain. It's why the MVP race was between Kobe and Paul. Both (in Kobe's case prior to Gasol acquisition) were carrying not so significantly talented rosters to very impressive records. Kobe was working with inconsistent Lamar Odom as his 2nd best player, and a just barely emerging Bynum (prior to his injury)

[jimmy77x]

Pauk AKA TonyMontana is such a huge Ph@ggot. 95% of his threads are about degrading Kobe to prop up his man crush Lebron.

[Twiens]

Shut the ****kkk up troll

[SamuraiSWISH]

Pauk AKA TonyMontana is such a huge Ph@ggot. 95% of his threads are about degrading Kobe to prop up his man crush Lebron.
I'm actually starting to debate it being plowking.

[Mr. Jabbar]

montanas act is getting old, needs new material...ever considered the possibility of lakers towel boys being a huge factor on kobes success? I bet you have..

[TonyMontana]

LOL @ Gasol being a "superstar", guy is a Chris Bosh level player. If Gasol is a "superstar" then so is Bosh, and that makes Wade a top ten player of all-time.

Gasol is that Chris Bosh level player. Meaning he takes his team to the playoffs at best, doesn't do anything in them, lucky to lead his team to one win ... in Gasol's case not any playoff wins prior to joining the Lakers.

Why do they hate Gasol? With good reason, inconsistency, and he's a huge gaping feminine wet hole.

He's basically the reason the Lakers didn't compete in the 2008 Finals. Allowing the Celtics to zone up completely on Kobe due to his getting punked so bad by Garnett, he was literally afraid to do anything. Making him a non factor on offense, Kobe having to carry the entire load.

His passive, apathetic, soft, depressive attitude kept the Lakers from having a chance to three peat in 2011. He was bitter over Chi-town boy Shannon Brown going balls deep in his fiance.

And then in 2012, failed to take advantage of the one huge glaring advantage LA had over OKC, which was interior scoring and rebounding. Then in the Olympics goes on to play his heart for Spain, looking vintage in the process.

We don't call him Paula Gasoft for no reason.

I dont think anyone other than you has ever called him "Paula Gasoft". :wtf:

Since you want to compare Gasol to LeBrons teammates(it always does come to this doesn't it) he is far better than anyone on the 2013 Miami Heat team that just won a championship. 2012 as well, but right now lets focus on 2013 because if you cant understand that you have no hope for 2012.

We going to act like Dwyane Wade is the same guy from 2006 or **** even 2011? He was a liability for nearly the entire playoffs barring a handful of games. Mike Miller and Ray Allen were better options on the court most of the time. Just lol @ "superstar D-Wade". Mid range game non-existant, his handle was sloppy, he was predictable, he was slow. He was terrible. But the Heat still won.

Chris Bosh the same guy that had 0 points in Game 7? The same guy that averaged 4 RPG against the Pacers? can you imagine if Gasol averaged 4 rebounds for a series, how hard the Kobe stans would bitch? :oldlol:

Chris Bosh is more comparable to a Lamar Odom. Both inconsistant, and not the most aggressive bigman. Bosh better on help defense and against the pick and roll. Odom better on the boards and handling/passing the ball. Bosh better 20 foot jump shot, Odom better at getting to the rim. Each have their pros/cons, but ultimately their the same scale of players.

LeBron has never had a Pau Gasol. By that I mean a dominant 7 footer in their prime that is elite on both ends of the floor. Just imagine if the Heat had Gasol instead of Wade. The same Wade that averaged 14 PPG in the playoffs while ruining the spacing. Would they ever lose a game? Probably not.:oldlol:



Lakers were 30-16 in 2007-08 before Gasol came, neck and neck with New Orleans for the #1 seed in the Western Conference.

How many playoff series did LA win post Shaq and pre Gasol? Sit down slave

[Deuce Bigalow]

How many playoff series did LA win post Shaq and pre Gasol? Sit down slave
Lamest argument in the book. "How many did he win without blank". What's next? Horry has seven rings?

[funnystuff]

Lamest argument in the book. "How many did he win without blank". What's next? Horry has seven rings?
Horry > Kobe if using Kobe stan logic.

[TonyMontana]

Lamest argument in the book. "How many did he win without blank". What's next? Horry has seven rings?

It's not an argument. Its a fact.

In the period from 2005-2007 where LA didn't have a Hall of Fame 7 footer in the middle they failed to win a single playoff series.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Horry > Kobe if using Kobe stan logic.
Definitely. Horry was actually a superstar, don't let his stats fool ya.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe didn't win any playoff series in 2006 or 2007, correct. At least he won some games in the playoffs. He was taking on higher seeds, and stacked Suns rosters. What was Kobe's help looking like? Practical D-league caliber supporting rosters featuring: Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, Brian Cook ... he actually won games with that shit around him. Almost knocked off the Suns in 2006, too.

Yet Paula Gasoft in Memphis couldn't even muster a single victory in the playoffs with Hubie Brown as coach, and Jason Williams, Michael Dickerson, Bonzi Wells backing him up. LMAO @ Gasol being a superstar. He's a taller, more pale version of Chris Bosh.

[Deuce Bigalow]

It's not an argument. Its a fact.

In the period from 2005-2007 where LA didn't have a Hall of Fame 7 footer in the middle they failed to win a single playoff series.
I know it sucks for you, but 1997-2004 and 2008-2013 is part of Kobe's career.

[The Rock]

gasol 0-20 In Playoffs Without Kobe. Even With Dwight And Nash In Game 1 Of This Playoffs, Team Only Scored 79pts. Gasol 0-20 Without Kobe In Playoff Games.

[funnystuff]

Deuce's brain has trouble with counter arguing so he uses sarcasm instead. :cheers:

[Electric Slide]

I know it sucks for you, but 1997-2004 and 2008-2013 is part of Kobe's career.
Pretty sure his point was that Kobe didn't have a dominant big then.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Pretty sure his point was that Kobe didn't have a dominant big then.
What's the difference ultimately though? LeBron won with a game changing perimeter player, top five league wide talent, and even when struggling or injured can still take over games single handedly and win them (something Gasol doesn't do) or even whole series:

See:
v.s. Boston 2011 Playoffs
v.s. Dallas 2011 NBA Finals
v.s. Indiana 2012 Playoffs
v.s. S.A. Game 4 2013 NBA Finals

Cherry on top being a game changing swing PF who can stretch defenses, and at times play on the low block. A guy who individually prior to joining forces with LeBron and Wade, basically had a stamp on the game very much similar to Gasol at his best. So we know their abilities are around equal.

[TonyMontana]

Kobe didn't win any playoff series in 2006 or 2007, correct. At least he won some games in the playoffs. He was taking on higher seeds, and stacked Suns rosters. What was Kobe's help looking like? Practical D-league caliber supporting rosters featuring: Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, Brian Cook ... he actually won games with that shit around him. Almost knocked off the Suns in 2006, too.

Yet Paula Gasoft in Memphis couldn't even muster a single victory in the playoffs with Hubie Brown as coach, and Jason Williams, Michael Dickerson, Bonzi Wells backing him up. LMAO @ Gasol being a superstar. He's a taller, more pale version of Chris Bosh.

Kobe and Gasol both have the same amount of playoff series won as the lone all-star. Whats your point?

Is the new selling point that Kobe actually won a couple playoff games before he was prematurely eliminated in the first round? That Kobe won a few more games(but no series) more than a guy very few have in the top 50 all-time? Ouch, new low for Kobe stans. :oldlol:

Not everyone can be like LeBron and win series by themselves. With prime LeBron your guaranteed relevance and deep playoff runs. LeBrons greatness just makes it so easy for me to own you guys. :oldlol:

[TonyMontana]

What's the difference ultimately though? LeBron won with a game changing perimeter player, top five league wide talent, and even when struggling or injured can still take over games single handedly and win them (something Gasol doesn't do) or even whole series:

Wade was garbage in the 2013 playoffs. When fans would rather see 33 year old Mike Miller with a bad back out on the court over him that means his time as a "game changing perimeter player" is over. Well see if he bounces back next year, I wouldnt count on it.

Contrary to what people think, the Heat are far from a dominant team/champion. They have two distinct traits that make them special.

1) LeBron ****ing James. No player can compare to him. Any team in 2013 is guaranteed to win 55+ games with him.

2) All of the shooters. When one guy is cold, they simply put another guy in. Keep doing this until you find the hot hand. Few teams have the amount of shooters they could have gone to that the Heat have.

Other than that, they have one of the worst 2nd options of any champion, their frontcourt is one of if not the worst of any NBA champion ever.

But when you got LeBron ****ing James sometimes that doesn't even matter.

http://oi41.tinypic.com/20zscva.jpg

[The Rock]

LEBRON AS THE MAN IN THE FINALS:

FINALS WINS % 10-12. 45%

KOBE IN THE FINALS AS THE MAN

FINAL WINS 11-8 57%


KOBE WINS!:roll:


HATERS REACHING TRYING TO USE GASOFT SO HARD THEY IGNORE FACTS! GASOL 0-20 WITHOUT KOBE:roll:


LEBRON 0 TITLES WITHOUT RUNNING TO WADE'S TEAM LIKE A BATTERED BITCH:roll:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe and Gasol both have the same amount of playoff series won as the lone all-star. Whats your point?

Is the new selling point that Kobe actually won a couple playoff games before he was prematurely eliminated in the first round? That Kobe won a few more games(but no series) more than a guy very few have in the top 50 all-time? Ouch, new low for Kobe stans. :oldlol:

Not everyone can be like LeBron and win series by themselves. With prime LeBron your guaranteed relevance and deep playoff runs. LeBrons greatness just makes it so easy for me to own you guys. :oldlol:
:oldlol: Delusional. You're main argument is what has Kobe done post Shaq, pre Gasol. GOAT did not win a playoff series pre- Pippen. Boom! I just discredited Jordan's whole career, he sucks now!

And we going to act like Lebron didn't have top 5 defenses in Cleveland when he was "by himself"? Or are we going to act like Lebron did not play in the Eastern Conference and beat up on the Wizards in the first round?

[The Rock]

LEBRON CARRIED WHAT?

07' FINALS SWEPT, NOT 1 WIN:roll:

11' FINALS MENTAL MIDGET, OITPLAYED BY TERRY AND BAREA:roll:

12' FINALS ONLY SOLID PLAY, TEAM PLAYED GREAT, TEAM WIN

13' FINALS, 25PPG 45% FG, BEFORE GAME 7, 24PPG 43%, SHUT DOWN BY BORIS "FATZ" DIAW:roll: GAME 6 CAREER WAS SAVED BY RAY ALLEN


THE ROCK IS LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF RIGHTNOW:roll:

[TonyMontana]

:oldlol: Delusional. You're main argument is what has Kobe done post Shaq, pre Gasol. GOAT did not win a playoff series pre- Pippen. Boom! I just discredited Jordan's whole career, he sucks now!

And we going to act like Lebron didn't have top 5 defenses in Cleveland when he was "by himself"? Or are we going to act like Lebron did not play in the Eastern Conference and beat up on the Wizards in the first round?

Jordan is overrated too. Hes from the same cloth of Kobe. Little guard that only effects the game scoring the basketball and defensive potential limited due to his position. There's a reason he couldn't win until Bird/Magic got old and he got a stacked team. :oldlol:

I guess LeBron should be penalized for dominating the regular season getting favorable matchups. :oldlol:

Inb4 "East sucks!!!". Im ahead of the game little boy.

2007 Caveliers: 50-32(.610)
Vs East: 31-21(.596)
Vs West: 19-11(.633)

2008 Cavaliers: 45-37(.549)
Vs East: 28-24(.538)
Vs West: 17-10(.629)

2008-09 Cavaliers Record: 66-18(.804)
Vs East: 40-12 (.769)
Vs West: 26-6(.813)

2009-10 Cavaliers Record: 61-21(.744)
Vs East: 38-14(.730)
Vs West: 23-7(.767)

Even better records vs the West EVERY year.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Best teammate in those seasons: Mo Williams
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[PickernRoller]

OP talking and agreeing with himself. Not even trying to hide his gimmick accounts.....pathetic clown.

We love Gasol. Hard to put up with his soft play on almost every playoff series after 2010.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Jordan is overrated too. Hes from the same cloth of Kobe. Little guard that only effects the game scoring the basketball and defensive potential limited due to his position. There's a reason he couldn't win until Bird/Magic got old and he got a stacked team. :oldlol:
:roll: There's a reason Lebron couldn't win until Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/KG/Dirk got old and he SIGNED with a stacked team.

I guess LeBron should be penalized for dominating the regular season getting favorable matchups. :oldlol:

Inb4 "East sucks!!!". Im ahead of the game little boy.

2007 Caveliers: 50-32(.610)
Vs East: 31-21(.596)
Vs West: 19-11(.633)

2008 Cavaliers: 45-37(.549)
Vs East: 28-24(.538)
Vs West: 17-10(.629)

2008-09 Cavaliers Record: 66-18(.804)
Vs East: 40-12 (.769)
Vs West: 26-6(.813)

2009-10 Cavaliers Record: 61-21(.744)
Vs East: 38-14(.730)
Vs West: 23-7(.767)

Even better records vs the West EVERY year.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Best teammate in those seasons: Mo Williams
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
07 Cavs
101.3 DRTG (4th)

08 Cavs
106.4 DRTG (11th)

09 Cavs
102.4 DRTG (3rd)

10 Cavs
104.1 DRTG (7th)

Good teammates =/= best teammate. Entire roster makes up the team. You will always be a good team with an elite defense.

[G-Funk]

lol @ anyone who thinks Pau deserved fmvp when Kobe outplayed him in games 1,3,4,5,and 6. Kobe was easily the best player for the SERIES. Gasol played like trash after the first 2 games



Also obody shot well for their positions. Kobe's clunker in game 7 is the only reason this is a discussion. Regardless his stats are by far the best. And I said before it's based purely on numbers without the biases and agendas found on LG. I know you wanna see Gasol win it, but his numbers although good for him, aren't Kobe's.

28.6 PTS 8.0 REBS 3.9 AST 2.14 STL

[Magic 32]

Jordan is overrated too. Hes from the same cloth of Kobe. Little guard that only effects the game scoring the basketball and defensive potential limited due to his position. There's a reason he couldn't win until Bird/Magic got old and he got a stacked team. :oldlol:

I guess LeBron should be penalized for dominating the regular season getting favorable matchups. :oldlol:

Inb4 "East sucks!!!". Im ahead of the game little boy.

2007 Caveliers: 50-32(.610)
Vs East: 31-21(.596)
Vs West: 19-11(.633)

2008 Cavaliers: 45-37(.549)
Vs East: 28-24(.538)
Vs West: 17-10(.629)

2008-09 Cavaliers Record: 66-18(.804)
Vs East: 40-12 (.769)
Vs West: 26-6(.813)

2009-10 Cavaliers Record: 61-21(.744)
Vs East: 38-14(.730)
Vs West: 23-7(.767)

Even better records vs the West EVERY year.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Best teammate in those seasons: Mo Williams
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Right, the more you played the Cavs, the easier it was to pick apart their "one trick pony" offense. Especially higher seeded teams could find Lebron's weaknesses and shut them down.

Also, teams that rarely played the Cavs (in the west) were often overwhelmed by the defensive intensity/activity of the team (see the game against the Lakers in 2010), but that was just a way of compensating for the lack of real substance in the overall construction of the team. That's why they always lost in the PO.

The Lebron lead Cavs were basically smoke and mirrors, built for the regular season, and 1-5 against good teams in the playoffs (and the 07 Pistons were nothing special).

So those West/East stats don't tell the whole story (not a unfamiliar thing with Lebron related stats).

Anyway, the east was embarrassing though, and anyone arguing that Lebron didn’t benefit from that conference is delusional. You could get 5-10 extra wins for free each year, just by facing the bottom half of the conference.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/061129

Kobe faced the 54w/61w Suns, and the Lebron lead Cavs only won one series against a 50+ team (53w for the Chris Webber Pistons).

[Nashty]

Because they know he is more valuable than Chuckbe.

[DetroitPistonFan]

6-24 isn't crap? :confusedshrug:

Its a sad day when someone gets awarded a FMVP trophy after shooting 6-24 in a game 7. :oldlol:
Jordan shouldn't have gotten the 1996 Finals MVP too. He shot the ball terribly as well.

[Magic 32]

Jordan shouldn't have gotten the 1996 Finals MVP too. He shot the ball terribly as well.

Or Dirk in 2011.

[DetroitPistonFan]

Or Dirk in 2011.
Jason Terry deserved it. Being the main man on the team as Jordan and Kobe is, they didn't shoot the ball well but did other things for this team to win. Dirk didn't. So maybe they did deserve MVP.

[jstern]

Insecurity by the Kobe fanboys. If you remember back to Linsanity, while so many people were looking it as a feel good story, the Kobe fanboys had a strong anti Lin campaign. That was so amazing to me. Just the extreme insecurity over another player getting so much attention. That's when I saw that these fanboys are people with some sort of mental, insecurity problems.

[NumberSix]

Because it's more preferable than rightfully blaming Kobe.

[DetroitPistonFan]

Insecurity by the Kobe fanboys. If you remember back to Linsanity, while so many people were looking it as a feel good story, the Kobe fanboys had a strong anti Lin campaign. That was so amazing to me. Just the extreme insecurity over another player getting so much attention. That's when I saw that these fanboys are people with some sort of mental, insecurity problems.
Sounds like a made up story to stir up sh*t

[PickernRoller]

Insecurity by the Kobe fanboys. If you remember back to Linsanity, while so many people were looking it as a feel good story, the Kobe fanboys had a strong anti Lin campaign. That was so amazing to me. Just the extreme insecurity over another player getting so much attention. That's when I saw that these fanboys are people with some sort of mental, insecurity problems.

Coming from your retard head I am sure these are just delusions you're having :roll: :roll:

[jstern]

Sounds like a made up story to stir up sh*t

Unfortunately I'm not going to hunt down the threads from Feb 2012, but my memory is correct, GriffMoney and the typical Kobe trolls were extremely insecure about Linsanity and had a big problem with it. There's a difference between Lakers fans who want the team to succeed, and Kobe fans who get insecure with Linsanity and use Kobe teammates as scapegoats.

[PickernRoller]

Unfortunately I'm not going to hunt down the threads from Feb 2012, but my memory is correct, GriffMoney and the typical Kobe trolls were extremely insecure about Linsanity and had a big problem with it. There's a difference between Lakers who want the team to succeed, and Kobe fans who get insecure with Linsanity and use Kobe teammates as scapegoats.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/abb93ad3ac6872b83194d846e09d5022/tumblr_mlv30sJonb1rtayl6o1_500.gif

[havoc33]

LA was first round fodder before he came, and Gasol immedietly made them the best team in the West. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. If he never comes LA is still irrelevant so I don't get why he is hated on.

Thats like Heat fans hating on LeBron who came to Miami( a first round fodder team) and immedietly made them the elite team in the East. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. Yet LeBron is loved by Heat fans and Gasol gets constantly abused.

Most disrespected superstar of all-time by his fanbase.Stupid post, by an even more stupid poster.

Lakers fans have a lot of appreciation for Gasol and the role he played on those championship teams. He provided Kobe with a dependable second option, and as a result the Lakers became instant contenders. What Laker fans do not appreciate about Gasol was the way he let his personal life affect his play during the 2011 campaign. He got distracted to the point where his game completely fell off and he tuned out, which is just unacceptable when you are a star getting paid big bucks to do your job. We all remember the infamous timeout in the Playoffs, where Phil Jackson literally pounded Gasol in the chest, trying to wake him up from his slumber.

Furthermore, Gasol's game suffered due to the increased role of Andrew Bynum, and last year Dwight Howard. But this was by no fault of Gasol, and true Laker fans realise that.

So please spare us any more of these pathetic threads of yours. We all know why you make them.

[jstern]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/abb93ad3ac6872b83194d846e09d5022/tumblr_mlv30sJonb1rtayl6o1_500.gif

You guys are pathetic, DetroitPistonFan says one thing, then like a bunch of school girls with nothing to say, they just gang up with the lol.

It still doesn't change the reaction to the Kobe fanboys had during Linsanity, especially when he dropped 38 points on the Lakers after Kobe said he never heard of him. Perhaps you guys have bad memory, but can't deny that such a scenario would turn an irrational insecure Kobetard over the board.

Kobe above all else, including the Lakers.

[Graviton]

I hate him because he gets all this hype as one of the best PFs still even though he vanished in 2(or is it 3 now?) straight playoffs and yet received little criticism. Watching Gasol's soft ass out there on the court looking like a rape victim helplessly running around was sad. He couldn't even abuse the garbage Perkins/Ibaka matchups. He is getting payed like 18 million to be a glorified Bargnani at this point.

[Derka]

Pau Gasol was the best player on that 2010 Lakers team and was robbed of that Finals MVP.

Lakers fans appreciate him, Kobe fans hate him.
100% this.

[Magic 32]

100% this.

Pau the MVP of the 2010 finals......

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1314029819767.png

[Nevaeh]

Sounds like a made up story to stir up sh*t

Nah, it was real Brah. They were breaking out the "How Great is Our God"? vids and everything. All because a scrub lit their boy up for 38 points in a regular season game. ONE GAME caused these fools to lose their minds. Now imagine what Gasol, not to mention Lebron, has done to their understanding of B-ball being a "team game".........

:(

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Insecurity by the Kobe fanboys. If you remember back to Linsanity, while so many people were looking it as a feel good story, the Kobe fanboys had a strong anti Lin campaign. That was so amazing to me. Just the extreme insecurity over another player getting so much attention. That's when I saw that these fanboys are people with some sort of mental, insecurity problems.

:applause:

[2010splash]

6-24 isn't crap? :confusedshrug:

Its a sad day when someone gets awarded a FMVP trophy after shooting 6-24 in a game 7. :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[branslowski]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

U use this troll alt to laugh at a low IQ statement...This board gets dumber and dumber

[Magic 32]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Moses Malone 1983 FMVP
Game 4 = 9-22 FG

Larry Bird 1984 FMVP
Game 7 = 6-18 FG

Magic Johnson 1987 FMVP
Game 6 = 7-21 FG

Joe Dumars 1989 FMVP
Game 4 = 5-13 FG

Hakeem Olajuwon 1994 FMVP
Game 7 = 10-25 FG

Michael Jordan 1996 FMVP
Game 6 = 5-19 FG

Tim Duncan 2005 FMVP
Game 7 = 10-27 FG

Paul Pierce 2008 FMVP
Game 6 = 4-13 FG

Dirk Nowitzki 2011 FMVP
Gamr 6 = 9-27 FG

:no: :no: :no::no: :no:

[branslowski]

Moses Malone 1983 FMVP
Game 4 = 9-22 FG

Larry Bird 1984 FMVP
Game 7 = 6-18 FG

Magic Johnson 1987 FMVP
Game 6 = 7-21 FG

Joe Dumars 1989 FMVP
Game 4 = 5-13 FG

Hakeem Olajuwon 1994 FMVP
Game 7 = 10-25 FG

Michael Jordan 1996 FMVP
Game 6 = 5-19 FG

Tim Duncan 2005 FMVP
Game 7 = 10-27 FG

Paul Pierce 2008 FMVP
Game 6 = 4-13 FG

Dirk Nowitzki 2011 FMVP
Gamr 6 = 9-27 FG

:no: :no: :no::no: :no:

This/

Funniest part about this thread is Kobe fans bringing facts while LeBron stans just trolling with dumb opinions

[jstern]

Moses Malone 1983 FMVP
Game 4 = 9-22 FG

Larry Bird 1984 FMVP
Game 7 = 6-18 FG

Magic Johnson 1987 FMVP
Game 6 = 7-21 FG

Joe Dumars 1989 FMVP
Game 4 = 5-13 FG

Hakeem Olajuwon 1994 FMVP
Game 7 = 10-25 FG

Michael Jordan 1996 FMVP
Game 6 = 5-19 FG

Tim Duncan 2005 FMVP
Game 7 = 10-27 FG

Paul Pierce 2008 FMVP
Game 6 = 4-13 FG

Dirk Nowitzki 2011 FMVP
Gamr 6 = 9-27 FG

:no: :no: :no::no: :no:

Wow, looking at all of those performances really shows me how bad 6-24 really is. For example, Larry Bird would have to miss 6 times in a row to equal it. Dirk would have to miss 9 shots in a row to equal it. Pierce would have to shoot 2-11 to equal it. Hakeem would have to miss 15 shots in a row.

Has anyone ever shot worse than 6-24 in the finals?

[Bandito]

Unfortunately I'm not going to hunt down the threads from Feb 2012, but my memory is correct, GriffMoney and the typical Kobe trolls were extremely insecure about Linsanity and had a big problem with it. There's a difference between Lakers fans who want the team to succeed, and Kobe fans who get insecure with Linsanity and use Kobe teammates as scapegoats.
what's linsanity? Is that some gay porn crap like that pic of Kobe 's a$$ you have on your hardrive?

[Magic 32]

Wow, looking at all of those performances really shows me how bad 6-24 really is. For example, Larry Bird would have to miss 6 times in a row to equal it. Dirk would have to miss 9 shots in a row to equal it. Pierce would have to shoot 2-11 to equal it. Hakeem would have to miss 15 shots in a row.

Has anyone ever shot worse than 6-24 in the finals?

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp210/valueratio_2008/LOL%20Cats%202/TryingTooHard.jpg

Reggie Miller
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200006070LAL.html

Russell Westbrook
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201206210MIA.html

Lebron
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200706070SAS.html

Dirk Nowitzki
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200606150MIA.html

Kareem
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198806190LAL.html

Scottie Pippen
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199806120CHI.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199606120SEA.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199606140SEA.html

Tim Duncan
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306090MIA.html

Jason Kidd
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200306040SAS.html

Ray Allen
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006170LAL.html

Joe Dumars
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199006140POR.html

Paul Pierce
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200806100LAL.html

I could go on, but you don't really deserve my time.

[jstern]

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp210/valueratio_2008/LOL%20Cats%202/TryingTooHard.jpg

Reggie Miller
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200006070LAL.html

Russell Westbrook
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201206210MIA.html

Lebron
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200706070SAS.html

Dirk Nowitzki
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200606150MIA.html

Kareem
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198806190LAL.html

Scottie Pippen
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199806120CHI.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199606120SEA.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199606140SEA.html

Tim Duncan
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306090MIA.html

Jason Kidd
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200306040SAS.html

Ray Allen
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006170LAL.html

Joe Dumars
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199006140POR.html

Paul Pierce
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200806100LAL.html

I could go on, but you don't really deserve my time.

Seemed like you spent a lot of time for me. Though not satisfying because what gets me about the 6-24 is just how many shots Kobe took. Many of the guys that you posted weren't even the number one option. Jason Kidd shooting 4-17 isn't as bad as Kobe shooting 6-24, especially since shooting wasn't his thing.

You can get away shooting a bad percentage when you don't shoot a lot, but when you're shooting 25%, the more shots you take, the more you hurt the team. The more you cost them in the final score of the game. Luckily Kobe's teammates were able to bail him out

[daily]

Seemed like you spent a lot of time for me. Though not satisfying because what gets me about the 6-24 is just how many shots Kobe took. Many of the guys that you posted weren't even the number one option. Jason Kidd shooting 4-17 isn't as bad as Kobe shooting 6-24, especially since shooting wasn't his thing.

You can get away shooting a bad percentage when you don't shoot a lot, but when you're shooting 25%, the more shots you take, the more you hurt the team. The more you cost them in the final score of the game. Luckily Kobe's teammates were able to bail him out

You either didn't watch the game or you're oblivious to watch your watching.

[jstern]

You either didn't watch the game or you're oblivious to watch your watching.

What do you mean? I watched the game, he shot horribly. I still thought he should have gotten the FMVP, but it was a very underwhelming series compared to past FMVPs. Not memorable.

[riseagainst]

lebron stans never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bandito]

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp210/valueratio_2008/LOL%20Cats%202/TryingTooHard.jpg

Reggie Miller
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200006070LAL.html

Russell Westbrook
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201206210MIA.html

Lebron
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200706070SAS.html

Dirk Nowitzki
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200606150MIA.html

Kareem
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198806190LAL.html

Scottie Pippen
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199806120CHI.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199606120SEA.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199606140SEA.html

Tim Duncan
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306090MIA.html

Jason Kidd
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200306040SAS.html

Ray Allen
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006170LAL.html

Joe Dumars
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199006140POR.html

Paul Pierce
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200806100LAL.html

I could go on, but you don't really deserve my time.
I don't even know why are you doing wasting your time with that guy when he is so obsessed with Kobe he has a picture of Kobe's ass in his hdd. Shame on you.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

OP talking and agreeing with himself. Not even trying to hide his gimmick accounts.....pathetic clown.

We love Gasol. Hard to put up with his soft play on almost every playoff series after 2010.
/thread

[Magic 32]

I don't even know why are you doing wasting your time with that guy when he is so obsessed with Kobe he has a picture of Kobe's ass in his hdd. Shame on you.

You will be surprised how quick it can be done on basketball reference.

Took about 90 sec.

[jstern]

I don't even know why are you doing wasting your time with that guy when he is so obsessed with Kobe he has a picture of Kobe's ass in his hdd. Shame on you.
Not sure how posting a link that I found on ish equals the picture being on my hard drive, but seeing how you always bring that picture up it seems that you're obsessed with butts.


Magic 32. It takes a lot of effort to post all those links and organizing them. Effort.

[Magic 32]

Not sure how posting a link that I found on ish equals the picture being on my hard drive, but seeing how you always bring that picture up it seems that you're obsessed with butts.


Magic 32. It takes a lot of effort to post all those links and organizing them. Effort.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi

+

Right click and press E (Chrome)

[Trollsmasher]

Damn, SamuraiSWISH revealing himself as a Kobe stan pretending to be a Jordan stan:roll:

I knew you were pathetic, bro, but this is almost too much:lol

[CeltsGarlic]

gasol 0-20 In Playoffs Without Kobe. Even With Dwight And Nash In Game 1 Of This Playoffs, Team Only Scored 79pts. Gasol 0-20 Without Kobe In Playoff Games.
the problem

[branslowski]

Damn, SamuraiSWISH revealing himself as a Kobe stan pretending to be a Jordan stan:roll:

I knew you were pathetic, bro, but this is almost too much:lol

Actually he comes at Kobe's neck alot....He's a Jordan stan.....But the fact that he's bringing facts and shutting down your trolling OP partners thread has you thinkin like that.

Really think about Logic bro:

Troll Logic-" Gasol carried Kobe, tru Finals MVP"

Reality Logic-"Kobe was clearly the best Laker throughout the series, shot like sh!t in game 7, but so did Gasol"

The numbers clearly back Kobe up in this. And I don't even care about da numbers really, you could watch that whole series and tell Kobe was the best player. It wasn't a 1 game series (the 1 game yawl always bring up to troll) It was 7 games. And after the series Kobes numbers were 28ppg 8reb 4ast 2stl....Great numbers against a top rated defense. Which is why the True reality and Facts has Kobe with 2 Finals MVPs. Gasol 0.

People who hate Kobe will treat Gasol as If he's Prime Wilt just to spew their delusional BS on posters to try and discredit Kobe...So it forces ppl to pull the true card and it gets mistaken for "Kobe stans hate Gasol"

I love Gasol, in 09' I called him the most skilled offensive Big in the game. But he was and is a Chris Bosh and David West level player. He's solid. But he was 0-16 in playoff games before Kobe and wasn't even getting tons of threads made about him and name drops untill he came to Kobe's team. Its truth and reality.

[Bandito]

Not sure how posting a link that I found on ish equals the picture being on my hard drive, but seeing how you always bring that picture up it seems that you're obsessed with butts.


Magic 32. It takes a lot of effort to post all those links and organizing them. Effort.
sure I am obsessed with Kobe's butt, that is why I always conveniently always find a pic of a butt so fast and whenever I need and post it here. You obsession with Kobe no bounds. You're a closet kobesexual admit f@ggot!

[jstern]

sure I am obsessed with Kobe's butt, that is why I always conveniently always find a pic of a butt so fast and whenever I need and post it here. You obsession with Kobe no bounds. You're a closet kobesexual admit f@ggot!
You're butt hurt.

I only needed to post it in that one thread where people were goofing around something related to attractive NBA players or something like that. You're the one who constantly bring it up and talk about it, like on this thread.

You said you used to work in a hospital or something and had to deal with people's butt, that's why I felt bad for you in particular when people were tricked into that bigfoot picture.

[TonyMontana]

:roll: There's a reason Lebron couldn't win until Shaq/Kobe/Duncan/KG/Dirk got old and he SIGNED with a stacked team.

07 Cavs
101.3 DRTG (4th)

08 Cavs
106.4 DRTG (11th)

09 Cavs
102.4 DRTG (3rd)

10 Cavs
104.1 DRTG (7th)

Good teammates =/= best teammate. Entire roster makes up the team. You will always be a good team with an elite defense.

What was the Cavs defensive rating in games without LeBron? And vs which teams? LeBron was the teams best defensive player and the reason they were so good.

If your too lazy to figure it out, you can just look at their defensive rating in 2011 when LeBron left.

11 Cavs(no LeBron)
111.8 DRTG (29th)

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[qrich]

Pau has been huge for the Laker's success, but it is kind of sickening how one side grossly underrates him while the other side puts him on a pedestal.

Elton Brand, during his 20/10/ & 2.5 days shits on Pau with ease.

[Deuce Bigalow]

What was the Cavs defensive rating in games without LeBron? And vs which teams? LeBron was the teams best defensive player and the reason they were so good.

If your too lazy to figure it out, you can just look at their defensive rating in 2011 when LeBron left.

11 Cavs(no LeBron)
111.8 DRTG (29th)

:oldlol: :oldlol:
Yeah because the only change from the 09-10 Cavs to the 10-11 Cavs was Lebron leaving...

Mind telling me the ratings of Kobe's team in 06 and 07?

[TonyMontana]

Yeah because the only change from the 09-10 Cavs to the 10-11 Cavs was Lebron leaving...

Mind telling me the ratings of Kobe's team in 06 and 07?

Sure it was. If LeBron stays Cleveland still wins 55+ games in the regular season. LeBron WAS the Cavs and the ONLY reason anyone cared about them, for good reason.

2004 Lakers(Shaq and Phil Jackson): 8th
2005 Lakers(no 7 foot HOFer or Phil Jackson): 30th
2006 Lakers(no 7 foot HOFER, but w/ Phil Jackson): 15th
2007 Lakers(no 7 foot HOFer, but w/ Phil Jackson): 24th
2008 Lakers(Pau Gasol AND Phil Jackson): 5th
2009 Lakers(Pau Gasol AND Phil Jackson): 6th
2010 Lakers(Pau Gasol AND Phil Jackson): 4th
2011 Lakers(Pau Gasol AND Phil Jackson): 6th
2012 Lakers( Pau Gasol and Mike Brown): 13th

What this tells us is that Kobe himself made virtually no difference defensively. They were last in the entire league with him in 2005. And thats in his prime. :oldlol:

But when you add a hall of fame 7 footer and Phil "GOAT of coaches" Jackson suddenly the defense is elite.

Oh and look at that. The defense under Mike Brown, who Kobe stans credit for making Cleveland an elite defense became worse when he took over. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Sure it was. If LeBron stays Cleveland still wins 55+ games in the regular season. LeBron WAS the Cavs and the ONLY reason anyone cared about them, for good reason.

2004 Lakers(Shaq and Phil Jackson): 8th
2005 Lakers(no 7 foot HOFer or Phil Jackson): 30th
2006 Lakers(no 7 foot HOFER, but w/ Phil Jackson): 15th
2007 Lakers(no 7 foot HOFer, but w/ Phil Jackson): 24th
2008 Lakers(Pau Gasol AND Phil Jackson): 5th
2009 Lakers(Pau Gasol AND Phil Jackson): 6th
2010 Lakers(Pau Gasol AND Phil Jackson): 4th
2011 Lakers(Pau Gasol AND Phil Jackson): 6th
2012 Lakers( Pau Gasol and Mike Brown): 13th

What this tells us is that Kobe himself made virtually no difference defensively. They were last in the entire league with him in 2005. And thats in his prime. :oldlol:

But when you add a hall of fame 7 footer and Phil "GOAT of coaches" Jackson suddenly the defense is elite.

Oh and look at that. The defense under Mike Brown, who Kobe stans credit for making Cleveland an elite defense became worse when he took over. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Okay thanks. So when Kobe had "nobody", he literally did not. But when Lebron had "nobody", he actually had an elite defense.

07 Cavs
101.3 DRTG (4th)

08 Cavs
106.4 DRTG (11th)

09 Cavs
102.4 DRTG (3rd)

10 Cavs
104.1 DRTG (7th)

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lets look at the defense each team had in the Playoffs.

2006 NBA Playoffs
Cavaliers: 107.4 DRTG (6th out of 16)
Lakers: 113.6 DRTG (13th out of 16)

2007 NBA Playoffs
Cavaliers: 100.0 DRTG (3rd out of 16)
Lakers: 114.8 DRTG (16th out of 16)

[Electric Slide]

Lets look at the defense each team had in the Playoffs.

2006 NBA Playoffs
Cavaliers: 107.4 DRTG (6th out of 16)
Lakers: 113.6 DRTG (13th out of 16)

2007 NBA Playoffs
Cavaliers: 100.0 DRTG (3rd out of 16)
Lakers: 114.8 DRTG (16th out of 16)
thats because Lebron was a better defender than Kobe.

just sayin

[TonyMontana]

Lets look at the defense each team had in the Playoffs.

2006 NBA Playoffs
Cavaliers: 107.4 DRTG (6th out of 16)
Lakers: 113.6 DRTG (13th out of 16)

2007 NBA Playoffs
Cavaliers: 100.0 DRTG (3rd out of 16)
Lakers: 114.8 DRTG (16th out of 16)

And if you switch them the numbers switch as well. :oldlol:

LeBron WAS the reason the Cavs were elite. No team with prime LeBron James will ever finish 30th out of 30th in defensive ratings. :oldlol:

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/1b18dd0d31a1a25b982a99d42c6c8de2/tumblr_mgl2c6DaYT1rsvg9do1_500.jpg

[Electric Slide]

Kobe sucks on defense.

Guy just stands there and guards the team's worst offensive player and he still gets burned.

:oldlol:

[chazzy]

Lebron wasn't considered a great defender until 08 or 09

[Electric Slide]

Lebron wasn't considered a great defender until 08 or 09
still better than kobe defensively in those 2 seasons.

[Magic 32]

still better than kobe defensively in those 2 seasons.

Not in 2008.

[Electric Slide]

Not in 2008.
Yes he was.

[Magic 32]

Yes he was.

not really. 2008 was one of Kobe best seasons defensively.

[sc19]

There's a reason nobody wants to play for the Lakers nowadays, and Howard bounced after experiencing that overrated city and its "fans."

[Electric Slide]

not really. 2008 was one of Kobe best seasons defensively.
Which would mean how bad kobe was defensively because even then he was nothing special.

Ray Allen and Paul Pierce were both lighting him up in the Finals. Oh wait, he was probably just standing there and guarding a young and inexperience Rajon Rondo who was their worst perimeter player at the time.

Lebron's been a better defender than Kobe since 2005.

[The Iron Fist]

I dont think anyone other than you has ever called him "Paula Gasoft". :wtf:

Since you want to compare Gasol to LeBrons teammates(it always does come to this doesn't it) he is far better than anyone on the 2013 Miami Heat team that just won a championship. 2012 as well, but right now lets focus on 2013 because if you cant understand that you have no hope for 2012.

We going to act like Dwyane Wade is the same guy from 2006 or **** even 2011? He was a liability for nearly the entire playoffs barring a handful of games. Mike Miller and Ray Allen were better options on the court most of the time. Just lol @ "superstar D-Wade". Mid range game non-existant, his handle was sloppy, he was predictable, he was slow. He was terrible. But the Heat still won.

Chris Bosh the same guy that had 0 points in Game 7? The same guy that averaged 4 RPG against the Pacers? can you imagine if Gasol averaged 4 rebounds for a series, how hard the Kobe stans would bitch? :oldlol:

Chris Bosh is more comparable to a Lamar Odom. Both inconsistant, and not the most aggressive bigman. Bosh better on help defense and against the pick and roll. Odom better on the boards and handling/passing the ball. Bosh better 20 foot jump shot, Odom better at getting to the rim. Each have their pros/cons, but ultimately their the same scale of players.

LeBron has never had a Pau Gasol. By that I mean a dominant 7 footer in their prime that is elite on both ends of the floor. Just imagine if the Heat had Gasol instead of Wade. The same Wade that averaged 14 PPG in the playoffs while ruining the spacing. Would they ever lose a game? Probably not.:oldlol:




How many playoff series did LA win post Shaq and pre Gasol? Sit down slave
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

You're absolutely right!!!!:cheers:









































Bosh and Wade actually won playoff games with their teams.

[The Iron Fist]

Because it's more preferable than rightfully blaming Kobe.
So if Kobe gets the blame, does he get the credit?

[The Iron Fist]

Seemed like you spent a lot of time for me. Though not satisfying because what gets me about the 6-24 is just how many shots Kobe took. Many of the guys that you posted weren't even the number one option. Jason Kidd shooting 4-17 isn't as bad as Kobe shooting 6-24, especially since shooting wasn't his thing.

You can get away shooting a bad percentage when you don't shoot a lot, but when you're shooting 25%, the more shots you take, the more you hurt the team. The more you cost them in the final score of the game. Luckily Kobe's teammates were able to bail him out
lebron shot 4-16. Took less shots, and lost.

Kobes team won.

[secund2nun]

LOL. Gasol played like crap in all the road games in the 2010 finals. Dude didn't even show up for game 5.

Gasol was easily better in the 2010 finals and playoffs than Kobe. Don't make me bring out the stats.

Also Kobe's 2009 finals are outrageously overrated. 32 PPG on 27 shots per game on 43% FG while going up against defensive scrubs like Lewis and Hedo while Gasol and Bynum battle Dwight Howard in the paint?

[TheBigVeto]

LA was first round fodder before he came, and Gasol immedietly made them the best team in the West. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. If he never comes LA is still irrelevant so I don't get why he is hated on.

Thats like Heat fans hating on LeBron who came to Miami( a first round fodder team) and immedietly made them the elite team in the East. 3 straight Finals, 2 straight championships. Yet LeBron is loved by Heat fans and Gasol gets constantly abused.

Most disrespected superstar of all-time by his fanbase.

Yup, pretty much.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Gasol was easily better in the 2010 finals and playoffs than Kobe. Don't make me bring out the stats.

Also Kobe's 2009 finals are outrageously overrated. 32 PPG on 27 shots per game on 43% FG while going up against defensive scrubs like Lewis and Hedo while Gasol and Bynum battle Dwight Howard in the paint?
Bring out the stats :oldlol:

[bdreason]

It's Kobe fans always looking for a scapegoat. For years it was Lamar Odom. Once he left, Gasol inherited the honor.

[Electric Slide]

Gasol was the true 2010 Finals MVP.

Lets be clear on that.

[branslowski]

Gasol was the true 2010 Finals MVP.

Lets be clear on that.

Trolls:facepalm

Always posting non factual dumb sh!t.....Jeff still haven't cleaned this board up. Smh, this forum goin down the dumps. All these dudes do is use alt accounts to troll Kobe because they fear his greatness.

[LT Ice Cream]

Don't you understand that you can't win if you're a soft white euro?

[funnystuff]

Kobe deserved it in 2009, ill give him that. But Pau was the true FMVP of 2010. It's really not arguable, Pau was the best on the team that year.

[IGOTGAME]

Who hates him? true Laker fans will always remember what he did during the championships runs...he is also important to any successful season we may have.
Very true. Except, a good season would be a losing season in my estimation. I'd like Kobe to skip half the year and hopefully the get a horrible record. Too many great prospect.

[SamuraiSWISH]

LeBron was not officially a good defender until the 2008 - 2009 season. It took conscious effort for him to get better. It started in the 2007 FIBA games, playing alongside Kobe and Kidd who preached defense. The 2008 Olympics was really his coming out party as a quality defender. Specifically the marvelous job he did defending Dirk in tournament play. But he was not anything special defensively before that 2009 season. It was one of the biggest weaknesses of his game, oddly, considering his immense athletic physical gifts. He became a better defender each subsequent year after those 2008 Olympics. Going to Miami in 2011 and having significant playmaking, game changing offensive help also allowed him to put forth more effort on that end.

[Magic 32]

Kobe deserved it in 2009, ill give him that. But Pau was the true FMVP of 2010. It's really not arguable, Pau was the best on the team that year.

http://hiphop365.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/smh.gif