chess

[riseagainst]

anyone here is an expert on chess? I just got into playing it and I want to get really good at it. Any advice?

[AboveTheRim.]

anyone here is an expert on chess? I just got into playing it and I want to get really good at it. Any advice?

There are plenty of chess tutorials on openings, end game, and all other kind of strategy on Youtube.

Other than that, just play a lot and your game will improve a lot.

[gigantes]

this is a nice one... it gives you a new problem to solve every day... one each for beginner, intermediate and advanced levels. plus a hint if you need it. it also lets you dip in to the archives whenever you want more puzzles.


http://i.imgur.com/ik3BdD5.jpg
www.shredderchess.com/daily-chess-puzzle.html

[MavsSuperFan]

I enjoy chess but i suck. I mostly play other players my level. Mostly it consists of only the very basic strategies. Eg. Trying to take out the opponent's rooks and queen.

[gigantes]

find the best move for black.

hint: it sets up a vicious fork.

[riseagainst]

find the best move for black.

hint: it sets up a vicious fork.

Queen to G2?

[dr.hee]

Queen to G2?

Yup, after the king moves Knight takes e3 is checkmate.

[rhythmic]

I joined a chess club in grade 8, played the "supposed" best player in the club my only game and won. Then never made another appearance.

I played chess on yahoo back in the day, was okay.
My record was like 3-2 I think...

Fun game but too slow for me.

[riseagainst]

i assume you mean f2, therefore congrats. :cheers:

and the smash move after that?

oh yeah. lol F2.

And what dr.hee said, knight takes E2, checkmate due to the Rook facing king with the pawn inbetween them.

[gigantes]

oh, hee is right... it's mate. i was so obsessed with the nasty king-queen fork! :facepalm


anyway, those problems will help you a lot with your tactics.

[PistonsFan#21]

oh, hee is right... it's mate. i was so obsessed with the nasty king-queen fork! :facepalm


anyway, those problems will help you a lot with your tactics.

The only problem with those is that it tells you that there is a good move to find. When you are playing a game though its not the same without someone telling you there is a killer move you can play in a certain position

[TheSilentKiller]

chess.com has a lot of good shit. Videos, tactic trainer, and thousands of players to match up against.

If you are a visual learner, check out this guy (http://www.youtube.com/user/ChessNetwork) on youtube. he has a ton of videos and explains stuff really well.

[dr.hee]

For tactics, I like this
http://chesstempo.com/chess-tactics.html

Also, this endgame training page is awesome. You can choose pretty much anything you'll ever see and randomize starting positions, too.
http//www.chessgym.net/flash/endgame_game.php (http://www.chessgym.net/flash/endgame_game.php)

[Jameerthefear]

I use to play a lot, but not much anymore.

[gigantes]

The only problem with those is that it tells you that there is a good move to find. When you are playing a game though its not the same without someone telling you there is a killer move you can play in a certain position
these puzzles get you in the habit of calculating tactics. it's a very useful habit for real games.

if you're like most people, when you replay your games move by move, you will find that there were quite a few tactics that you missed.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Major basic tips are these.

Quickest way to checkmate someone is getting the queen deep into the other person's lair with a bishop backing it up.

Knights backed by bishops are a good combo.

Rooks are powerful when aligned.

Castling is usually preferable.

Pawns that go upward and control the center with an inverted ^ shape are better than a V shape.

Get your backpieces activated fast. Get your pawns forward fast.

Be wary of forks and skewers and pins. Pins can be extremely frustrating.. it's literally like playing Mortal Kombat and Subzero throwing a piece of ice at you and you can't do sh!t about that.

Knights are extremely powerful in the middle, they can attack 8 positions and no fukks given about lines.

Harass your opponent and keep checking them while aligning them to knock out other pieces.

Rooks are good for defending your king.

If you look at Bobby Fischer he is all about two things... SYNCHRONICITY between pieces (guy is not aggressive he prefers having each piece have other pieces back... kinda like the 04 Pistons no superstars but great chemistry players and he is all about SACRIFICE.... he usually slaughters a Queen or a Rook while the opponents endorphins gleefully elevate to say ZOMG I have your big boy now.. only to go HAM and conquer them with a bishop heh

[TheSilentKiller]

i accept any challenges by ishers

[CeltsGarlic]

never give up. never accept ties. be annoying af.

[gigantes]

... If you look at Bobby Fischer he is all about two things... SYNCHRONICITY between pieces (guy is not aggressive he prefers having each piece have other pieces back... kinda like the 04 Pistons no superstars but great chemistry players and he is all about SACRIFICE.... he usually slaughters a Queen or a Rook while the opponents endorphins gleefully elevate to say ZOMG I have your big boy now.. only to go HAM and conquer them with a bishop heh
that's a great way of putting it, J$.


TBH, the famous chessmasters are the thing that makes chess interesting to me. i can just sit and read about their crazy lives all day... maybe lust after judit polgar occasionally... but i have no actual interest in playing chess.

i had to sit in my chair and stare at that chess problem for a couple minutes before i could tell what i was looking at. it just looked like art until i remembered how things work. :D

there is one guy from peru i particularly admire... julio granda zuniga... he saved a lot of brain cells by not memorising openings the way all his fellows did. actually made it in the top ten in the world at one time. my kind of dude. :cheers:

[bdreason]

I've tried to get into Chess a few times, but I think I just lack the patience (and skill obviously).

This thread reminded me of a weird skit Seinfeld and Kramer did;

http://youtu.be/Wriy3ICfF9U?t=8m1s


Probably full of shit, but good story nonetheless.

[HarryCallahan]

I was pretty good as a kid, but haven't really gotten better since.

I played on year in school, I went undefeated with 4/5 stalemates (all against the same girl). But we had an excellent team, so I usually wasn't playing people on my level.

[gigantes]

... This thread reminded me of a weird skit Seinfeld and Kramer did;

http://youtu.be/Wriy3ICfF9U?t=8m1s

Probably full of shit, but good story nonetheless.
i watched that ep once... don't feel like watching it again... what are the cliffs notes?

[dr.hee]

there is one guy from peru i particularly admire... julio granda zuniga... he saved a lot of brain cells by not memorising openings the way all his fellows did. actually made it in the top ten in the world at one time. my kind of dude. :cheers:

He did pretty good in the World Cup. The last non super-gm standing and he kinda threw away his match against Caruana. I like to watch Ivanchuk, dude is just insane. In the last candidates tournament, he was losing 5 games or something because he just stopped playing and let the clock run out. But then he's beating Carlsen and Kramnik...

[CarlosBoozer]

I don't even know how to play chess :cry:

[dr.hee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ZwMVLMezI

:lol

[PistonsFan#21]

i accept any challenges by ishers

you got an account on chess.com? i'll play you

[treadster]

It's been a while since i played a chess, probably still suck as always

[TheSilentKiller]

you got an account on chess.com? i'll play you
I think I do from back in the day. Let me check and i'll pm you

[AS85]

chess has to be the most boring 'sport'. why do people gather around screens to watch 2 guys think? what rubbish.

im not too great at the game, but an expert once told me that if you learned a lot of old games openings it is enough to reach the top of the game. a person with a great memory is a great player. you dont have to be that innovative/intelligent just have to have insane recollection skills.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

that's a great way of putting it, J$.


TBH, the famous chessmasters are the thing that makes chess interesting to me. i can just sit and read about their crazy lives all day... maybe lust after judit polgar occasionally... but i have no actual interest in playing chess.

i had to sit in my chair and stare at that chess problem for a couple minutes before i could tell what i was looking at. it just looked like art until i remembered how things work. :D

there is one guy from peru i particularly admire... julio granda zuniga... he saved a lot of brain cells by not memorising openings the way all his fellows did. actually made it in the top ten in the world at one time. my kind of dude. :cheers:


Word? Julio Zuniga. Raw adaptive intelligence as opposed to rote memorization. Will definitely try to incorporate that.. it's a far better application of brains. Especially to people who believe in the "The present war is unlike the past" principle Greene espouses in 33 strategies of war.

Have you heard of that one chessmaster from Austria or whatever (havent' got a clue what his name is) but his wife would always complain that he was completely incompentent at basic tasks like tying shoes or cooking meals or anything. He would literally wake up in the morning in his fukking PJs and whine like a little boy to get his breakfast served to him and altho he was rich and famous must've been a pain in the azz to be around.

Or that Bobby in retrospect actually hated/disliked chses but only did it because it was his calling in a sense... Kind of like how as a person whose into psychology you hated basic mathematics but had this urge to lecture others in the 'GET THIS STRAIGHT" sense.

I guess prot

[TheSilentKiller]

I will be online at chess.com for the next hour if anyone wants to play. Would prefer a 5/0 game but I also like bullet 1/0

Username TSKISH22

[gigantes]

Word? Julio Zuniga. Raw adaptive intelligence as opposed to rote memorization. Will definitely try to incorporate that.. it's a far better application of brains. Especially to people who believe in the "The present war is unlike the past" principle Greene espouses in 33 strategies of war.
yup. if i decided to get back in to chess, i think the only form i would want to play is chess 960 / fischer chess, in which the backpieces are shuffled randomly before every game.

i cannot imagine a bigger waste of time than filling up huge swaths of your mind with endless opening books. then again, if such leads to health and wealth for the successful ones, i guess i'm busted. :D



Have you heard of that one chessmaster from Austria or whatever (havent' got a clue what his name is) but his wife would always complain that he was completely incompentent at basic tasks like tying shoes or cooking meals or anything. He would literally wake up in the morning in his fukking PJs and whine like a little boy to get his breakfast served to him and altho he was rich and famous must've been a pain in the azz to be around.
haven't heard of that guy specifically, but from what i've read it's not uncommon for some folks at the highest levels of academia / arts / fame / wealth / etc to act that way.

IMO the brain has a very strong bias to preserve learning potential. that is, when you can get away with shortcutting your way through certain activities / skills, it frees up learning and processing power for other activities that you may find more attractive. whether it's always a good idea to do so is a different matter.


[quote]Or that Bobby in retrospect actually hated/disliked chses but only did it because it was his calling in a sense... Kind of like how as a person whose into psychology you hated basic mathematics but had this urge to lecture others in the 'GET THIS STRAIGHT" sense.

I guess prot

[gigantes]

[Zuniga] did pretty good in the World Cup. The last non super-gm standing and he kinda threw away his match against Caruana. I like to watch Ivanchuk, dude is just insane. In the last candidates tournament, he was losing 5 games or something because he just stopped playing and let the clock run out. But then he's beating Carlsen and Kramnik...
hmm, i'd be surprised if an old vet like him hasn't beaten everyone who matters at least once in almost any format you can name.

anyway i haven't really kept up with the chess stories the last few years. haven't heard of that little protest or whatever it was, wow.

[dr.hee]

hmm, i'd be surprised if an old vet like him hasn't beaten everyone who matters at least once in almost any format you can name.

anyway i haven't really kept up with the chess stories the last few years. haven't heard of that little protest or whatever it was, wow.

Nah, no protest or anything. He was going into thinking mode...and stopped playing altogether, losing multiple games on time. Wasn't doing anything for like 45 minutes at times. Meanwhile Carlsen and Kramnik were tied for 1st place to become the challenger for the world championship, and Ivanchuk beats both in the last 2 games, which allowed Carlsen to win the whole thing. Entertaining to watch the guy.


i cannot imagine a bigger waste of time than filling up huge swaths of your mind with endless opening books. then again, if such leads to health and wealth for the successful ones, i guess i'm busted

Now I clearly don't know what I'm talking about ( club level player, nothing special), but I think below maybe 1800-2000 Elo you can avoid lots of theory by playing offbeat stuff and anti systems. For example, you can piss off people who wanna play their favorite sicilian line they've memorized 20 moves deep, by simply playing 2. b3 or c3 with white :D Doesn't work if you wanna become an IM or something, but enough for me to have ugly positions with both players out of book...

[gigantes]

so... bill gates considers himself a chess buff.

bill gates decided to take on magnus carlsen in a friendly game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NwnSltHFo

:D

[Dresta]

I used to be one of the best in the country for my age group in primary school - got to the national chess gigafinals, which at the time was the last 600 in the country for under 16's i think (streamed into age groups). Then when i got to secondary school i stopped playing completely because playing chess was regarded as uncool and nerdy (man school is stupid). But playing in primary school was really fun because you'd get a day or afternoon off, and go to play another school in a team ranked from boards 1-10 (from age of 8-9 i was always board 1).


chess has to be the most boring 'sport'. why do people gather around screens to watch 2 guys think? what rubbish.

im not too great at the game, but an expert once told me that if you learned a lot of old games openings it is enough to reach the top of the game. a person with a great memory is a great player. you dont have to be that innovative/intelligent just have to have insane recollection skills.
Wrong. Memory is only part of what makes a great chess player.

[joe]

TheChessWebsite channel on youtube, I think is great for beginners. He isn't as good of a player as the next channel I'll name, but he covered very simple strategy and tactics that are great for beginners. Go and watch his early videos, not sure if he still posts.

But def. watch TheChessNetwork on youtube. The guys name is Jerry, he was a national master, seems really cool and is great at explaining things in simple terms. Start with his early videos because he sort of builds up from there.

I was really into chess a few years back but I've fallen off.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

anyone here is an expert on chess? I just got into playing it and I want to get really good at it. Any advice?
Theres a trick to getting good at chess that nobody wants to say... and thats playing a lot of chess!

[OhNoTimNoSho]

so... bill gates considers himself a chess buff.

bill gates decided to take on magnus carlsen in a friendly game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NwnSltHFo

:D
Bill gates blows at chess you can tell by his moves and that was bullet chess the most pointless form of chess

[mr.big35]

I was good at chess when I was 10 now I dont have the patience to play chess

[Lonely_Sandberg]

There is no greater joust of the mind than the game of chest. Each move represents thousands of choices made or unmade. The game, much like the mind of a woman, is a dance of seduction.

[Akrazotile]

There is no greater joust of the mind than the game of chest. Each move represents thousands of choices made or unmade. The game, much like the mind of a woman, is a dance of seduction.


:facepalm

[gigantes]

:facepalm
he clearly meant the game of scoring with chicks with big boobies.


what the hell were you thinking about, azkrahole?

[DonD13]

step up to the plate, log on chess.com and challenge me, DonD13

with the app you can make a move wherever you are

[senelcoolidge]

I never had the patience for chess..but I'm interested in Shogi, which is like the Japanese version of chess with some different rules.

[MadeFromDust]

Memorize 3 or 4 complete attack strategies, beginning to end, make cash

[dr.hee]

Memorize 3 or 4 complete attack strategies, beginning to end, make cash

:coleman:

[Akrazotile]

:coleman:


I have a question as a chess newb about those "memorized strategies".

If I do memorize a particular opening, and my opponent is also a newb who doesnt know the proper defense for it (or any designed defense), am I pretty sure to win? Like if he plays over the board and I stick to a particular strategy, does that basically guarantee me to win? Presume Im also a newb who is just trying to stick to the strategy ive learned.

Basically do you have to play a certain defense for each attack strategy to have a chance or can you just play your own way and still compete?

[dr.hee]

I have a question as a chess newb about those "memorized strategies".

If I do memorize a particular opening, and my opponent is also a newb who doesnt know the proper defense for it (or any designed defense), am I pretty sure to win? Like if he plays over the board and I stick to a particular strategy, does that basically guarantee me to win? Presume Im also a newb who is just trying to stick to the strategy ive learned.

Basically do you have to play a certain defense for each attack strategy to have a chance or can you just play your own way and still compete?

Regarding playing specific defenses...that's entirely depending on what kind of game you like to play. Some openings are extremely theoretical in the sense that it's known which specific move is the best in a certain situation. If you know them, you can compete. Otherwise, you'll get torched. But these things can be avoided. If you want to play the absolutely best response to certain openings then yeah, you'll need to learn a bunch of theoretical stuff. Very important on pro level chess, but not for us normal club level just for fun players. So for amateur chess, learning lots of theory isn't really necessary. There are offbeat ways to play many openings that avoid most of the theory.

You'll need to know the most common traps, which are like cheap tricks to win games quickly. That's pretty much all opening theory required for club level chess. If you know general principles of chess strategy, you'll be able to play solid moves most of the time. Maybe not the best moves, but good enough. Up to competitive semi pro level, the game is more about making less bad moves rather than making many good ones. Amateur games are often decided by big critical mistakes, so if you're playing solid chess, you'll have lots of opportunities to win.
That's why openings aren't that important for amateurs. We make many, many mistakes later on anyway, so it's not important to get a small edge early on by playing memorized theoretical opening stuff. Basically like basketball fundamentals. You don't need AND1 crossover shit to dominate your local playground. Basic stuff is good enough. Don't take me too seriously though, I'm just at normal solid club level. So compared to pros, I don't know shit about chess.

[DonD13]

I have a question as a chess newb about those "memorized strategies".

If I do memorize a particular opening, and my opponent is also a newb who doesnt know the proper defense for it (or any designed defense), am I pretty sure to win? Like if he plays over the board and I stick to a particular strategy, does that basically guarantee me to win? Presume Im also a newb who is just trying to stick to the strategy ive learned.

Basically do you have to play a certain defense for each attack strategy to have a chance or can you just play your own way and still compete?

it's bs coming from a troll.
learning a complete strategy from beginning to end and making easy money :facepalm

you need to play.
keep the basics in mind rather then openings. like controlling the center, castling, moving a piece only once in the begining if possible, not moving the queen too soon and so on

[GimmeThat]

went to a chess tournament with my high school club once.

that clock thing is a killer if you don't have plenty of practice beforehand I tell ya.

[DonD13]

buncha geeks

pencil necked?